Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
This was a great segment! The SKS seems like a good new entrant. I cook professionally and wonder what BEST fits my needs, and there are so many good options and combinations out there. I question the chromium flat top simply because I've never cooked on one and I am curious about how hard it is to clean. Not saying it is good or bad, I just plain don't know. One of the things that I am trying to consider is how well the ovens push air in convection mode. I am used to very powerful blowers and the results they give. Do any of the range options offer ovens with French style doors? Options with steam offerings in the oven are truly something to consider. My favorite style burner is the BlueStar. I also LOVE the fact that the oven fits commercial sized sheet pans (I think you see the theme I have). My biggest concern is the longevity/long term repairability of the electronics of the stove. Has any of the manufactures listed committed product support after product/line EOL? 5 years? 10 years? I worry about a board or component failing and no longer being able to use a significant function of the range. I wonder if you could do a short video that would describe the maximum and average hood requirements of this range of appliances you are suggesting? AAAAnd this is my longest RUclips comment ever!
Have you had many people yet try the SKS (LG)? It's intriguing and I'm torn between that and the Miele....do you have any additional experience with the SKS?
Enjoying the videos tremendously- you give a good in depth review on these appliances. Can you do a review on Thor, z line and Forno. These seem to be quite a bit more budget friendly in these times but I wouldn’t want to get them if they are poor quality. There are hardly any reviews on these three manufacturers. Thank you
I know you've spoken in the past about how a 48" range is "usually" a bad choice since the smaller oven is not really capable of doing much so it typically sits there unused so I guess this video is about picking the best choice from within a bad category of stoves?
our thermador steam 48inch broke after 3 years and one month and is unable to be fixed at all. the company is completely not helpful. offering a small discount on a new $18K range. Would NOT recommend.
Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
Bad question. I appreciate where its coming from, but you and I cook differently. That said, how exactly do you cook? I like BlueStar for all gas assuming you are broiling and roasting more. Wolf is great in dual fuel assuming you are baking more. What other options do you want
I would like a griddle/plancha for homemade tortillas, pancakes , hibachi style meat/veggies. I make steak a lot, but I can through it on the grill outside , or get a nice sear with the stovetop.My usuals in the oven are roast chicken, whole prime rib, roast pork, short ribs, lasagna. Once a week I make either a cake,cookies or a pie and I want to start making artisan bread and focaccia once I retire.
All gas for roasting, except many dual fuels have better controls. Look at BlueStar for power, Miele for making bread (dual fuel with steam assist), and SKS because its interesting. Wolf is not a bad choice either
Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
This was a great segment! The SKS seems like a good new entrant. I cook professionally and wonder what BEST fits my needs, and there are so many good options and combinations out there.
I question the chromium flat top simply because I've never cooked on one and I am curious about how hard it is to clean. Not saying it is good or bad, I just plain don't know.
One of the things that I am trying to consider is how well the ovens push air in convection mode. I am used to very powerful blowers and the results they give. Do any of the range options offer ovens with French style doors?
Options with steam offerings in the oven are truly something to consider.
My favorite style burner is the BlueStar. I also LOVE the fact that the oven fits commercial sized sheet pans (I think you see the theme I have).
My biggest concern is the longevity/long term repairability of the electronics of the stove. Has any of the manufactures listed committed product support after product/line EOL? 5 years? 10 years? I worry about a board or component failing and no longer being able to use a significant function of the range.
I wonder if you could do a short video that would describe the maximum and average hood requirements of this range of appliances you are suggesting?
AAAAnd this is my longest RUclips comment ever!
Always great information. I am curious about Dacor. I do not believe that I have watched a video which includes this product line. Any thoughts?
Great question....We havent sold Dacor in over 10 years. I dont know anyone that still actively promotes it...looks good, but...
Have you had many people yet try the SKS (LG)? It's intriguing and I'm torn between that and the Miele....do you have any additional experience with the SKS?
Only for about a year or so
Enjoying the videos tremendously- you give a good in depth review on these appliances. Can you do a review on Thor, z line and Forno. These seem to be quite a bit more budget friendly in these times but I wouldn’t want to get them if they are poor quality. There are hardly any reviews on these three manufacturers. Thank you
a quick google search will show you class action lawsuits for thor and zline
Thanks Steve. Have a Wonderful Memorial day weekend!
Thank you too
Steve, thanks for putting this video together . is very helpful. which 48in has a both convection oven . thanks
Wolf does....
Good video. Thermador is notorious for parts that are discontinued. I can't get a simmer control module to save my life.
Love the content/breakdowns
Another excellent video! Wolf is number one in my book
It would have been helpful to know the range of prices.
Good point...$12-20,000
What's the difference between steam cooking and steam assist?
Steam assist adds moisture to the process but you are still cooking with convection heat. With steam you are cooking completely with steam
I know you've spoken in the past about how a 48" range is "usually" a bad choice since the smaller oven is not really capable of doing much so it typically sits there unused so I guess this video is about picking the best choice from within a bad category of stoves?
Did I say that? Can't remember doing so as you have a larger 36 inch oven.
How do these brands compare in reliability?
Hard to know on the new ones. Wolf and Thermador are usually the best
our thermador steam 48inch broke after 3 years and one month and is unable to be fixed at all. the company is completely not helpful. offering a small discount on a new $18K range. Would NOT recommend.
Don't blame you
Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
Great info Steve, but I still can’t decide which to choose. I’ve had a 60 “ AGA cooker for 25 years now and am remodeling my kitchen. I really want gas burners on my new range and wouldn’t mind a griddle to make tortillas. I really enjoy cooking and can have 18- 30 people over for Thanksgiving , we also have about 8-10 family members over to make Christmas cookies. It’s been over 9 months looking at all of these stoves throughout the NJ, NY and Pa area and I really need to get my kitchen in shape, since I just disconnected my previous stove. I really wanted a Navy Bluestar (Dual), but I keep reading reviews after reviews and keep changing my mind. If you were to purchase a 48 or 60”, which would you choose?
Bad question. I appreciate where its coming from, but you and I cook differently. That said, how exactly do you cook? I like BlueStar for all gas assuming you are broiling and roasting more. Wolf is great in dual fuel assuming you are baking more. What other options do you want
I would like a griddle/plancha for homemade tortillas, pancakes , hibachi style meat/veggies. I make steak a lot, but I can through it on the grill outside , or get a nice sear with the stovetop.My usuals in the oven are roast chicken, whole prime rib, roast pork, short ribs, lasagna. Once a week I make either a cake,cookies or a pie and I want to start making artisan bread and focaccia once I retire.
All gas for roasting, except many dual fuels have better controls. Look at BlueStar for power, Miele for making bread (dual fuel with steam assist), and SKS because its interesting. Wolf is not a bad choice either