Ain’t no secret anymore ole man 😂 I’m glad you’s aren’t that crew that hides all their juicy information. Give a man a fish you will feed him for a day , teach a man how to fish and you will feed him for a life time.
Billy's nickname should be no lift. That young man has very strong driving skills. However his fabrication judgment is a little less desirable. Please talk to him about those upper A arms dad.
INTEGRITY =can't be bought, can't be sold! Thank you Bill sr. For not being a sellout to Anyone or any business that doesn't support our American way of life. Some others need to take notice before they sellout to that ALL MIGHTY$ THANK YOU AGAIN, GOD BLESS
I'm located in Ohio, I'm a paraplegic and I am trying to finish my s10. I've been following for a while now and it's been great seeing how Billy has the truck setup. Thanks for that. Answered alot of questions I had with suspension. Thanks! Hope to see yall sometime next year. Eventually I'll have my truck back together.
Hi ! Trigg3rhappy Im interested in knowing what type of hand controls you are using in your s-10 for adventure i have never built a drag car but it has been a dream and love of mine all my life and last year was a year for me to go for it Where have you put your nitrous and trans break buttons Hope every thing you do is a sucess and lots wins
Hey man!! How’s your truck coming along? It’s been almost a year since your comment and was curious if your getting close to having it going? I hope and pray that your doing well buddy and can’t wait for ya to be driving it again! Take care and be safe out there!! There’s a bunch of us pulling for ya!!
I did get my truck going. Only video I have is on my channel. I plan on putting something together later in a few weeks explaining my setup. I drove it to work yesterday for the first time and it's been running amazing.
Awesome video, , been following/watching your son's for a long time but this is really my speed. I've always enjoyed working on cars/trucks.. crap... It's what I do for a living. I really appreciate what you guys do !! Thanks!!
I have a s10 and I greatly appreciate all the info you give out. Just because you may not be "educated" doesn't mean you're not smart. You're educated from experience and it shows.
Thanks 'ol Dad for this video. You're willingness to share with the World your tricks 'n tips how you've got 'Th3 Kid' s suspension set up is commendable. I'm betting your "How we do it" videos are helping literally hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of street and strip hotrod builders. We hope all of them THANK YOU by saying so on your channels. You're doing an outstanding job putting these videos together and YES, you're alot smarter than you're willing to give yourself credit.
I see on the ride hight u explain why it’s important to do the front suspension that way is because u gain control under acceleration/ with stock spindles and 1 inch higher upper ball joints where as with drop spindles as u get faster and it begins to transfer more even pulls it front wheels at launching u loose 2 ta 3 inch of stirring con-troll (AT STATIC RIDE HIGHT) !!!!+ EVEN MORE AS IT PULLS UP HIGHER PAST STATIC !!!(where as u guys gain control) is and keep the hammer down !!! I hope I have explained that I get it what u explain on importance this set up???
I completely understand and agree on your drop spindle theory 💯!!!!! To any out there watching these tech videos, pay attention and listen to this man. This is some valuable knowledge. I'm gonna have to start calling you Professor H. Keep doing what you do good Sir!! #SRCNation
Great video Bill. Enjoyed the tech tips. Dad was a gear head drag racer. Learned from him if you don't have your chassis and suspension setup properly then it's pointless to put a high HP motor in your vehicle. Y'all be safe and god bless!
You are a great father to help your boys like you do. I like your videos, they are clear an informative. Your boys don't know how lucky they are. "Old man" ?.....(wrong)...im thinking "Wise man" (more accurate) from the school of been there, done that.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bill !!! I just started on my S-10 build and really have been learning a lot from you !!! I much better understand how to set my truck up now without wasting a bunch of money !!! Thanks and GOD bless y’all!!!
You got the experience of racing. And there's plenty bench racers trying to knock you but you are a master ok we probably raced at trails. I been raceing off and on since I was 18 I'm 67 years old we expected a lot of raceing. Missed. And bullshit. Remember whin 64 and 66 Mustang. Would wheel stent. At trails. And lakewood or Anson bars haha. Ok take care ok. Phill Broady
Education comes with age and years of experience. You are very well educated. Dont let anybody say other other wise. Enjoying your channel and learn something from all of them. The day I stop learning is the day I give up. Keep up the great work. From one old guy who still loves to learn...
Thank you, even though I do not street or track race, I loved watching this because it has helped me understand a lot more and about how much goes into all of this. I am sure you have just shown us a small amount of what all goes into producing a quality race car/truck.
After seeing how you have the rear set up I can now understand why you've not gone with a back half 4 link. The ol addiage - "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is applicable. I've been bitch'n that you need to back half the truck for a couple years,, NOW I understand. Thanks so much for these tips.
Nice video and great points!!!! Leafsprings and Caltracs are certainly a proven combination. Great info on the front end. Guys pay close attention to this video. It is full of gold nuggets of info! This lines up with the video on leafsprings along with other videos on rear pickup points on my channel. You don't have to spend tons of money if you understand the combination of all the pieces working together. Go Fast, Go Straight! Be Safe!
Wow i never new how simple the s10 susp. Was . I expected high dollar shit. It runs badass. You guy should be proud of yourselfs. For what it has and compiting with tube cars and trucks. 👍👍 god bless
This is probably one of the most informative videos for street racing on RUclips right now. I love how you guys are so open with all of your tricks and techniques and still put a whooping on everyone else keeping their cars a secret! Keep up the great content!
@SRC Garage - Phenomenal video Bill! Dropping nuggets left and right! Suggestion - do you think its possible to have a video on traction compound? Difference in performance between water burnout and PYOP? Different types of TC and what you prefer? I know you and your boys use Stripper Glitter but what are some of the differences between other brands? How about proper way of using it correctly? I would be very curious to learn more and I am not sure if many videos out there discussing it in depth. Thanks for everything you do and your valuable time.
Stock spindle, tall tire , light spring. Got it boss. Whenever I tried to explain this to so called car people they scoff because they want the nice low street look but don’t realise they are reducing the amount of energy that’s gonna get captured and when you are launching a car with 1000 plus horse power this information is crucial.
OMG that wheel stand, both of them,, WOW! Billy has a pair the size of Texas to stay in it!! Might add he DID do a fantastic job hang'n on to it 'cause he got away with it when it started to get nasty on him.
When bill talks y'all listen -- school is in session. Thanks for it all my 18 year old son is moving in with me an want his s10 a drag truck thank y'all SRC good bless your family
Great video once again. I got a 76 Vega I bracket race and nmca race. Lots of Vega guys run S-10 front suspension parts it’s compatible with all the H-body stuff. I don’t yet cause I had strange do some work on my stock spindles but it was nice to get a look underneath the truck.
Obviously, the S10 has more than enough power to ride the rear wheels for quite a ways down the track!! so your suspension is working great in your application, and that's what matters. I agree with the Viking shocks, they are outstanding. Little back story...me and a friend been testing with his MOPAR...in this case, a Dodge Dart. It has a big block all motor that *only* makes around 750 horsepower or so. It has Cal Tracs and mono-leafs. With the Calvert adjustable shocks, it would extend all the suspension front and rear on launch, just enough to get a half-way decent 60 ft. time, then it would "relax" too soon and start spinning. Many trips to the test & tune sessions trying all kinds of different settings, and it just would'nt improve any more that what we already had. So we tried some Viking's double adjustable shocks, and BAM!! this thing cut another 1.2 tenth's off the 60 ft. times!! It was pulling the front wheels off the ground considerably more. But the funky stock angles of the shocks (car is all stock type suspension) seemed to be holding it back some. So we fabbed up a new shock mount on top and stood the shocks straight up, and OH MY GOD what HUGE difference that made! The car will nearly stand on the rear bumper now, and it's only a foot brake....has no trans brake at all.
I have been following your channel for a very long time now. I have admired what you are and have been able to accomplish. You are a very humble, hard working man of which not many exist today. Hence, why people always want to know what you have done and what part is where, how come this and why not that. They do not desire great knowledge , as they say, from someone as yourself. They want to skirt the learning and mastery process. Knowledge is useless unless you can be the master of its implementation. Exactly why there are soooo many racers mired in mediocrity., and blaming it on not having enough money to do what they think they need to do. It is never the money that will afford the opportunity for high level achievement. It is what is in your heart and soul and your willingness to master all within your capabilities. Even with everything you gave in this presentation as well as the previous ones, they do not have your specific knowledge, experience, nor your boys style and implementation of piloting the vehicle. Which means is is mostly useless to them, unless they take the information and work the same as you to have mastery over it. I see you as a brilliant man. No level of formal education makes you smart. The total mastery of the knowledge you possess and mastery over its implementation afford you and your sons the opportunity to experience your level of success and future successes. That is real GENIUS. Keep up the work you are doing. I wish you all of the success and achievements you can reach. Can't wait to hear you speak again!!
I had moog chassis part numbers to correct bumpsteer and setting caster camber with their factory appearing parts. Never failed tech. You would hear the other teams say they got vortech heads, that cam has a thump that is not stock etc etc. The cam was stock lift rule and the heads were era correct. The car was so much faster through the turns from chassis set up. Horsepower wasn't the secret. Oh and I camber the 10 bolt rear-end 😅
Is there any secrets towards the back bumper area such as ballast? Is ballast acceptable in “suspension” tuning? Love the videos. Keep up the great videos.
Love these videos and a inside look at things. I’m sure some are gonna say he shouldn’t have done this and showed all the tricks. I applaud him for spreading the knowledge. It’s all in the driver behind the wheel and he knows that. You could put 10 different guys in Billy’s truck and none would go faster than what he’s laid down. You can’t buy talent.
People are much too caught up in the latest and greatest expensive parts. I've done really well with a lot of stock junk. Good to see someone else realizes all that isn't necessary
I’ve followed you and billy for about 6-7 years now. Found you guys on Instagram back then and I had a sbc s10 then. I can say I’ve learnt so many things from you both. Thank you for making these awesome videos. My pops is passed away and seeing you teaching and entertaining us makes me reminisce on the memories with my pops. Hope to meet you both soon, drove to the 828 cash days at wilkesboro with a buddy to meet y’all but y’all was super busy and we didn’t want to bother.
Thanks bill , great lessons I have been a auto tech for years and you explained it in the way my mentor taught me . This is so very important if you save even one thing for someone trying hard then it's worth it all . Thank you e your time and consideration on this subject ! 👍 Keep a thrashing brother !
What I think is funny, and I remember the video when Billy brought those home. I think Billy's grandfather has a machine shop. He probably could have made those look a little better.
And this video you show stock arms that have been modified but in the video showing adding new front disc brakes you have different control arms where did those come from
Great info. For the G body fellas: this same front setup, using v6 springs. For the rear trz anti roll bar “ no more g body shuffle”, adjustable uppers, boxed lowers and a bit or reinforcement on the control arm mounting points or torque box and the g body will hook on ice. Cage, x brace and boxed frame wil make the landing more pleasant and keep you from ripping the car appart.
Thanks ol man. Love your videos it helps so much. I have a 87 starting to do some stuff to. An I could listen to you all night. So wish I lived closer an knew half of what you know. So thanks again for taking the time to talk to use an not make me feel stupid lol. Much love an stay safe!!
More awesome content thank you for sharing. I too am eagerly awaiting part 2. You are a good teacher and communicator don't knock yourself short. You're helping and educating a lot of people. I do have a question. Not trying to be argumentative you have forgotten more than I will ever know. You were talking about front suspension travel and if I understood right are wanting to make sure you have or keep quite a bit of it. I have seen people chain down their front suspension trying to reduce as much travel as possible so that they would Wheely less at the start. That concept seems to be opposite of what you are trying to achieving. I'm probably completely missing something. If I'm too lost for you to be able to answer I'm not offended.
thanks for taking the time to share. ive got a turbo dakota making around 600 wheel. this year i added a transbrake and suspension in hopes of getting a good 60
I've been messing around with 1st gen s10's since I was 14, built my 1st one by myself in my driveway within the 1st year of being in a wheelchair, I was 18, blew past everything everyone ever told me I should be doing at that time, physical therapy= 🖕 nope, this was always what I needed to do, I'll be 43 this Oct 11, had some really terrible car wrecks and nasty tumbles that should have taken me out, seriously. Still messing with these little s10's, I just been hooked since I was 13, now I'm looking forward to stepping up to a 406 n/a on a little whiff, Bill, you gave me goosebumps at 6:35, I remember seeing this video a few years back, The truck is bad.
I like stiff shocks up front and soft in the back. For me it seems to help get frontend to lift up and ass to squat and stay stable as long as I'm in it. Plus the 200 lbs in my caprice truck only helps weight transfer
Squat isn’t good. You want it to separate in the rear pushing the tire into the ground. Squat is just killing your 60’ and preventing you from hitting the tire hard.
You are no longer the Ole Man. All hail the SRC Garage God!!! Thank you Bill. You are a great man for teaching us less knowledgeable race car fans more than a thing or two about this sport. God bless you !
Billy should really use a rust converter on the underside of his S-10. Or a mixture of bar & chain oil mixed 50/50 with diesel fuel. From what I just saw, the structure bars under the bed seem to have a bit of rust so, either a simple rust converter from Eastwood or whatever... I greatly appreciate you guys simply for being from Ohio as I am! My brother had a 79 Z-28 w/ 1973 4.125 bore sb 400 bored .030 over to a stroker 406. Th400, 373 gears, Holley 750 double pumper w/manual secondaries & a 78 Trans-AM with a worked up 455 H.D. All the things I wanted to do, He never did!
You sir are a very smart man and very knowledgeable about racing making shit go fast. But you are wrong about the drop spindles. Maybe if we ever meet in person we can try to come to agreement, but after 30 years of custom Suspension working and setting up cars, the starting point has no bearing ✌️
Mine is an 83 s10 you've got all my respect for making those trucks work like they do on stock stuff im running a split leaf mono leaf spring and it works great but I dont know that it works better than yalls
I swear I have been on the other side of the lowering spindle argument. Seeing the truck at full extension, the light bulb went off. Thank you for all you share! I was one asking for this content, and it's very much appreciated. I hope you continue with it, and tire explanation! You and your family are amazing!
I caught so much flack from Lucore Auto in the comments section of his vidoe for saying what your saying about the ugly hack job on the control arms. If he would have taken his time and done it right. Even Melvin Fredrick laughed at those. I remember you asking him "are you proud of that".🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
Rewatching through your and src’s old vids. Don’t know if you will ever see this question… Do you think the same concepts would work on a OBS Silverado? Thanks if you see it
Mr. Bill, our s10 is back halved with a ladder bar setup. It works pretty good. We have been 1.2 - 60’ on no prep. But we have no X brace. Would it be worth adding one to the truck? Any info appreciated. Also, I’ll be hacking our front bump stops tomorrow lol. Cool trick. Love the content, I came back to rewatch this to try and get faster.💪💯
This was super awesome to watch! Its not like ill be giving you any kind of competition at all literally ever with a truck like yours. So my dad and i built a stroker for my s10 probably close to 8 years ago now, 9” rear 3:90 gears and for years its just been something to toy around with a few times a year cause its just real squirrely. Hes told me for years we gotta back half it but thats so pricey for just a toy that i dont plan on racing with. Its awesome to see that someone can keep something as wild as your truck stuck to the ground without going and breaking the bank for a back half kit and 18” wide tires and all that crazy shit!! Looks like the caltraks and the shocks should really let me enjoy my truck a hell of a lot more without worrying about loosing traction playing around!!! Thanks for the video! MUCH APPRECIATED!!
Thanks for the great info! But a question if you or anyone has time, will this all be the same on a later model S10? I'm completely new, never raced, never swapped an engine, and only once helped open an engine but that was years ago. I'm basically starting with little knowledge, and a stock truck. I'm doing research... But I have ADHD so all this is hard to grasp. I have a 99 Xtreme body S10. Stock everything right now. I'd like to have a procharged 6 Liter in it. Or a screw blown 427. XD I just need to know where to start if I ever hope to call out billy and his S10 to the track someday. 😅
If you ever want to look at summer old videos with my S 10 write RobertP23 & it shows me at the track with truck & some from CRUISING THE COAST about 45 minutes down the road from me in Hattiesburg. 🙏💯
Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have s10 race truck goals, so this type of video is awesome. Saw you guys in WV last week at Southside Dragway. Every car you brought hooked up and went straight down the track. You obviously got this suspension thing figured out. Thanks again.
Sorry, do you run billiet body mounts or poly or rubber? Why not box the frame instead of adding the X brace? Stock rubber bushings on the front control arms? Manual steering box vs quick ratio pwr box? Which would recover quicker? When does it become an advantage to have adjustable shocks vs "standard" 90/10-50/50 Competition Engineering shocks?
Hey I know this is probably a dumb question. And I don't really ask dumb questions, but I know you guys are pretty die hard Chevy people. But... anyway I want to build a dodge dakota early 90s late 80s. But I know that S10 and Dakotas have quite similar weight and are overall similar, but would most of this stuff, parts, and tips you have explained very well might I add work on a Dakota and maybe work well because, I know each truck, each car is different and that's probably a dumb question but I was just wondering if most of the parts, tips and everything thing said would mostly work on a Dakota.
Looking at your NEW WHEELS.... i was reading about BL yesterday, i specifically read on MT’s website that single BL’s are NOT a good idea. The thinking is that its holding the tire differently on both sidesis (even to me thats no genius!) and is really not a way to go about. With that said, why did you guys go with SINGLES?? Especially since you mentionned the Kid can prolly afford to do whatever ge wants on the truck now. Hopefully youll have a minute to anwser this.... Id really appreciate your input. Love the Channel!!!!
Ain’t no secret anymore ole man 😂 I’m glad you’s aren’t that crew that hides all their juicy information. Give a man a fish you will feed him for a day , teach a man how to fish and you will feed him for a life time.
100 percent man. You can’t buy skill and ya can’t buy time with the vehicle.
One thing I noticed that wasn't mentioned is the front sway has been removed.
Billy's nickname should be no lift. That young man has very strong driving skills. However his fabrication judgment is a little less desirable. Please talk to him about those upper A arms dad.
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You are the shit thank you
INTEGRITY =can't be bought, can't be sold! Thank you Bill sr. For not being a sellout to Anyone or any business that doesn't support our American way of life. Some others need to take notice before they sellout to that ALL MIGHTY$
THANK YOU AGAIN, GOD BLESS
Amen to that!!!
I Could listen to the old man all day. Love this channel, keep up the great work and thanks for your racing knowledge
The ol' man is/was the brains behind the S-10 success.
Hey old man when are you going to get that bad ass Nova back out and bust some heads?
I'm located in Ohio, I'm a paraplegic and I am trying to finish my s10. I've been following for a while now and it's been great seeing how Billy has the truck setup. Thanks for that. Answered alot of questions I had with suspension. Thanks! Hope to see yall sometime next year. Eventually I'll have my truck back together.
Don't ever stop brother !
Keep a thrashing 👍
Hi ! Trigg3rhappy Im interested in knowing what type of hand controls you are using in your s-10 for adventure i have never built a drag car but it has been a dream and love of mine all my life and last year was a year for me to go for it Where have you put your nitrous and trans break buttons Hope every thing you do is a sucess and lots wins
Hey man!! How’s your truck coming along? It’s been almost a year since your comment and was curious if your getting close to having it going? I hope and pray that your doing well buddy and can’t wait for ya to be driving it again!
Take care and be safe out there!! There’s a bunch of us pulling for ya!!
I did get my truck going. Only video I have is on my channel. I plan on putting something together later in a few weeks explaining my setup. I drove it to work yesterday for the first time and it's been running amazing.
Thanks for the mention Sir! Always happy to help Billy and you all stay straight and fast!
Do you have a part number on that longer upper ball joint?
Awesome video, , been following/watching your son's for a long time but this is really my speed. I've always enjoyed working on cars/trucks.. crap... It's what I do for a living. I really appreciate what you guys do !! Thanks!!
I have a s10 and I greatly appreciate all the info you give out. Just because you may not be "educated" doesn't mean you're not smart. You're educated from experience and it shows.
My head is about to explode now. I took every single word of this in. Now i see it all coming together. Thank you so much for this lesson.
Thanks 'ol Dad for this video. You're willingness to share with the World your tricks 'n tips how you've got 'Th3 Kid' s suspension set up is commendable. I'm betting your "How we do it" videos are helping literally hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of street and strip hotrod builders. We hope all of them THANK YOU by saying so on your channels. You're doing an outstanding job putting these videos together and YES, you're alot smarter than you're willing to give yourself credit.
I see on the ride hight u explain why it’s important to do the front suspension that way is because u gain control under acceleration/ with stock spindles and 1 inch higher upper ball joints where as with drop spindles as u get faster and it begins to transfer more even pulls it front wheels at launching u loose 2 ta 3 inch of stirring con-troll (AT STATIC RIDE HIGHT) !!!!+ EVEN MORE AS IT PULLS UP HIGHER PAST STATIC !!!(where as u guys gain control) is and keep the hammer down !!! I hope I have explained that I get it what u explain on importance this set up???
I completely understand and agree on your drop spindle theory 💯!!!!! To any out there watching these tech videos, pay attention and listen to this man. This is some valuable knowledge. I'm gonna have to start calling you Professor H. Keep doing what you do good Sir!! #SRCNation
Great video Bill. Enjoyed the tech tips. Dad was a gear head drag racer. Learned from him if you don't have your chassis and suspension setup properly then it's pointless to put a high HP motor in your vehicle. Y'all be safe and god bless!
😁 thanks! I'll be waiting on the next one, we should have to pay you for all these lessons!.....lol
Shhhh don't say that
Motor plates not to mention the stress it puts on cylinders under power side motor mount
You guys are great luv the trucks
You are a great father to help your boys like you do. I like your videos, they are clear an informative. Your boys don't know how lucky they are. "Old man" ?.....(wrong)...im thinking "Wise man" (more accurate) from the school of been there, done that.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bill !!! I just started on my S-10 build and really have been learning a lot from you !!! I much better understand how to set my truck up now without wasting a bunch of money !!! Thanks and GOD bless y’all!!!
You got the experience of racing. And there's plenty bench racers trying to knock you but you are a master ok we probably raced at trails. I been raceing off and on since I was 18 I'm 67 years old we expected a lot of raceing. Missed. And bullshit. Remember whin 64 and 66 Mustang. Would wheel stent. At trails. And lakewood or Anson bars haha. Ok take care ok. Phill Broady
Education comes with age and years of experience. You are very well educated. Dont let anybody say other other wise. Enjoying your channel and learn something from all of them. The day I stop learning is the day I give up. Keep up the great work. From one old guy who still loves to learn...
Thank you, even though I do not street or track race, I loved watching this because it has helped me understand a lot more and about how much goes into all of this. I am sure you have just shown us a small amount of what all goes into producing a quality race car/truck.
After seeing how you have the rear set up I can now understand why you've not gone with a back half 4 link. The ol addiage - "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is applicable. I've been bitch'n that you need to back half the truck for a couple years,, NOW I understand. Thanks so much for these tips.
Nice video and great points!!!! Leafsprings and Caltracs are certainly a proven combination. Great info on the front end. Guys pay close attention to this video. It is full of gold nuggets of info! This lines up with the video on leafsprings along with other videos on rear pickup points on my channel. You don't have to spend tons of money if you understand the combination of all the pieces working together. Go Fast, Go Straight! Be Safe!
6 months later and Im still watchin this video 👍👍👍👍
Excellent video, I disagree with you that your not well educated. Because you are an excellent teacher.
Wow i never new how simple the s10 susp. Was . I expected high dollar shit. It runs badass. You guy should be proud of yourselfs. For what it has and compiting with tube cars and trucks. 👍👍 god bless
Man thank you so much I have an 86 s10 this helps me so much
"...you're going to want as much front travel as you can get..."
Me, planning out a Twin I-beam Ford Ranger drag truck - "uh huh, say no more"
This is probably one of the most informative videos for street racing on RUclips right now. I love how you guys are so open with all of your tricks and techniques and still put a whooping on everyone else keeping their cars a secret! Keep up the great content!
@SRC Garage - Phenomenal video Bill! Dropping nuggets left and right! Suggestion - do you think its possible to have a video on traction compound? Difference in performance between water burnout and PYOP? Different types of TC and what you prefer? I know you and your boys use Stripper Glitter but what are some of the differences between other brands? How about proper way of using it correctly? I would be very curious to learn more and I am not sure if many videos out there discussing it in depth. Thanks for everything you do and your valuable time.
Stock spindle, tall tire , light spring. Got it boss. Whenever I tried to explain this to so called car people they scoff because they want the nice low street look but don’t realise they are reducing the amount of energy that’s gonna get captured and when you are launching a car with 1000 plus horse power this information is crucial.
Is the 9inch a spool or LSD
Man,I thank you explain things graet.thank for all your videos 👍👍👍👍
Great information on building a s10 drag truck
Read while taking a SHIT!!!! That's great advice, lol.🔥💯
OMG that wheel stand, both of them,, WOW! Billy has a pair the size of Texas to stay in it!! Might add he DID do a fantastic job hang'n on to it 'cause he got away with it when it started to get nasty on him.
Morning ol man just got off work thanks for the late upload
When bill talks y'all listen -- school is in session. Thanks for it all my 18 year old son is moving in with me an want his s10 a drag truck thank y'all SRC good bless your family
Great video once again. I got a 76 Vega I bracket race and nmca race. Lots of Vega guys run S-10 front suspension parts it’s compatible with all the H-body stuff. I don’t yet cause I had strange do some work on my stock spindles but it was nice to get a look underneath the truck.
Where do I get them upper ball joints? And do they make them for other trucks?
Obviously, the S10 has more than enough power to ride the rear wheels for quite a ways down the track!! so your suspension is working great in your application, and that's what matters.
I agree with the Viking shocks, they are outstanding.
Little back story...me and a friend been testing with his MOPAR...in this case, a Dodge Dart.
It has a big block all motor that *only* makes around 750 horsepower or so.
It has Cal Tracs and mono-leafs. With the Calvert adjustable shocks, it would extend all the suspension front and rear on launch, just enough to get a half-way decent 60 ft. time, then it would "relax" too soon and start spinning. Many trips to the test & tune sessions trying all kinds of different settings, and it just would'nt improve any more that what we already had.
So we tried some Viking's double adjustable shocks, and BAM!! this thing cut another 1.2 tenth's off the 60 ft. times!! It was pulling the front wheels off the ground considerably more.
But the funky stock angles of the shocks (car is all stock type suspension) seemed to be holding it back some.
So we fabbed up a new shock mount on top and stood the shocks straight up, and OH MY GOD what HUGE difference that made!
The car will nearly stand on the rear bumper now, and it's only a foot brake....has no trans brake at all.
Hate ta pull up beside either one of those pickups,,,,nice sleepers
thanks for takin the time to maybe help someone out stay safe will ya
I have been following your channel for a very long time now. I have admired what you are and have been able to accomplish. You are a very humble, hard working man of which not many exist today. Hence, why people always want to know what you have done and what part is where, how come this and why not that. They do not desire great knowledge , as they say, from someone as yourself. They want to skirt the learning and mastery process. Knowledge is useless unless you can be the master of its implementation. Exactly why there are soooo many racers mired in mediocrity., and blaming it on not having enough money to do what they think they need to do. It is never the money that will afford the opportunity for high level achievement. It is what is in your heart and soul and your willingness to master all within your capabilities. Even with everything you gave in this presentation as well as the previous ones, they do not have your specific knowledge, experience, nor your boys style and implementation of piloting the vehicle. Which means is is mostly useless to them, unless they take the information and work the same as you to have mastery over it. I see you as a brilliant man. No level of formal education makes you smart. The total mastery of the knowledge you possess and mastery over its implementation afford you and your sons the opportunity to experience your level of success and future successes. That is real GENIUS. Keep up the work you are doing. I wish you all of the success and achievements you can reach. Can't wait to hear you speak again!!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for the insider look and the detailed information. It definitely changed my thoughts on a build
So you have no anti-sway bar on the front?
I had moog chassis part numbers to correct bumpsteer and setting caster camber with their factory appearing parts. Never failed tech. You would hear the other teams say they got vortech heads, that cam has a thump that is not stock etc etc. The cam was stock lift rule and the heads were era correct. The car was so much faster through the turns from chassis set up. Horsepower wasn't the secret. Oh and I camber the 10 bolt rear-end 😅
First car (truck) 1992 red s-10 4.3 automatic. Dad had a black matching one but his was a five speed. 4.3 was peppy.
I’m about to have a 9” built did you keep the stock bolt pattern?
Damn I wish I could have had lift! Thanks again Bill for passing on your knowledge.
Thanx for sharing and telling like it is for the KISS method
Thank you for being very blunt about right and wrong
Is there any secrets towards the back bumper area such as ballast? Is ballast acceptable in “suspension” tuning? Love the videos. Keep up the great videos.
Yes. Keep watching
Love these videos and a inside look at things. I’m sure some are gonna say he shouldn’t have done this and showed all the tricks. I applaud him for spreading the knowledge. It’s all in the driver behind the wheel and he knows that. You could put 10 different guys in Billy’s truck and none would go faster than what he’s laid down. You can’t buy talent.
You're a young bloke to me Ol Man! I'm pretty sure after watching this video, you have a lot more than just two son's now.
People are much too caught up in the latest and greatest expensive parts. I've done really well with a lot of stock junk. Good to see someone else realizes all that isn't necessary
I’ve followed you and billy for about 6-7 years now. Found you guys on Instagram back then and I had a sbc s10 then. I can say I’ve learnt so many things from you both. Thank you for making these awesome videos. My pops is passed away and seeing you teaching and entertaining us makes me reminisce on the memories with my pops. Hope to meet you both soon, drove to the 828 cash days at wilkesboro with a buddy to meet y’all but y’all was super busy and we didn’t want to bother.
Good stuff as always Old Man. Thank you for the knowledge as always bud.
When he talks I listen
I don't even race and i've listened to all of his videos
Bill. You said you removed the helper leaf spring, but you still have three leafs. Did you add another thinner longer spring?
No they had 3 leaves plus a helper
Okay. Thanks. I guess my 2002 was built was built with ZQ8 suspension that has two main leafs and one helper.
Hillbilly Deluxe ol man,,,my kinda people,,,,
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks bill , great lessons I have been a auto tech for years and you explained it in the way my mentor taught me . This is so very important if you save even one thing for someone trying hard then it's worth it all .
Thank you e your time and consideration on this subject ! 👍
Keep a thrashing brother !
"Slightly modified upper control arms... 😒" lmao
What I think is funny, and I remember the video when Billy brought those home. I think Billy's grandfather has a machine shop. He probably could have made those look a little better.
And this video you show stock arms that have been modified but in the video showing adding new front disc brakes you have different control arms where did those come from
Thank you Bill for the info. Currently building two S-10s also.
The longer the better man
Thanks for the great info! I hope to see you all at Edgewater sometime. Awesome channel
So you can fit a 15x10 4.5 bs wheel on a 28x10.5 stock wheel tubs and stock leaf spring location ?
Its almost 5am pops, go to bed! 😂😂
Ikr
Getting up with the rooster 🐓lol Hell he probably woke the Damn Rooster 🐓 up
I really appreciate the information. Working on my s10 now.
I work hard, but I think you work harder. Thank you for the content and the inspiration!
Can you please do a video just like this on your nova?
Great info. For the G body fellas: this same front setup, using v6 springs. For the rear trz anti roll bar “ no more g body shuffle”, adjustable uppers, boxed lowers and a bit or reinforcement on the control arm mounting points or torque box and the g body will hook on ice. Cage, x brace and boxed frame wil make the landing more pleasant and keep you from ripping the car appart.
Slightly modify😂😂😂😂 his face
Thanks ol man. Love your videos it helps so much. I have a 87 starting to do some stuff to. An I could listen to you all night. So wish I lived closer an knew half of what you know. So thanks again for taking the time to talk to use an not make me feel stupid lol. Much love an stay safe!!
More awesome content thank you for sharing. I too am eagerly awaiting part 2.
You are a good teacher and communicator don't knock yourself short. You're helping and educating a lot of people.
I do have a question. Not trying to be argumentative you have forgotten more than I will ever know. You were talking about front suspension travel and if I understood right are wanting to make sure you have or keep quite a bit of it. I have seen people chain down their front suspension trying to reduce as much travel as possible so that they would Wheely less at the start. That concept seems to be opposite of what you are trying to achieving. I'm probably completely missing something. If I'm too lost for you to be able to answer I'm not offended.
thanks for taking the time to share. ive got a turbo dakota making around 600 wheel. this year i added a transbrake and suspension in hopes of getting a good 60
I've watched this video 3,568 times.... You're a vault of knowledge Bill. I'm almost ready.
I've been messing around with 1st gen s10's since I was 14, built my 1st one by myself in my driveway within the 1st year of being in a wheelchair, I was 18, blew past everything everyone ever told me I should be doing at that time, physical therapy= 🖕 nope, this was always what I needed to do, I'll be 43 this Oct 11, had some really terrible car wrecks and nasty tumbles that should have taken me out, seriously. Still messing with these little s10's, I just been hooked since I was 13, now I'm looking forward to stepping up to a 406 n/a on a little whiff, Bill, you gave me goosebumps at 6:35, I remember seeing this video a few years back, The truck is bad.
I like stiff shocks up front and soft in the back. For me it seems to help get frontend to lift up and ass to squat and stay stable as long as I'm in it. Plus the 200 lbs in my caprice truck only helps weight transfer
Squat isn’t good. You want it to separate in the rear pushing the tire into the ground. Squat is just killing your 60’ and preventing you from hitting the tire hard.
I'm definitely going to try some of these little tips on my S10.
You are no longer the Ole Man. All hail the SRC Garage God!!! Thank you Bill. You are a great man for teaching us less knowledgeable race car fans more than a thing or two about this sport. God bless you !
Billy should really use a rust converter on the underside of his S-10. Or a mixture of bar & chain oil mixed 50/50 with diesel fuel. From what I just saw, the structure bars under the bed seem to have a bit of rust so, either a simple rust converter from Eastwood or whatever... I greatly appreciate you guys simply for being from Ohio as I am! My brother had a 79 Z-28 w/ 1973 4.125 bore sb 400 bored .030 over to a stroker 406. Th400, 373 gears, Holley 750 double pumper w/manual secondaries & a 78 Trans-AM with a worked up 455 H.D. All the things I wanted to do, He never did!
Awesome video. Thanks
You sir are a very smart man and very knowledgeable about racing making shit go fast. But you are wrong about the drop spindles. Maybe if we ever meet in person we can try to come to agreement, but after 30 years of custom Suspension working and setting up cars, the starting point has no bearing ✌️
Another masterpiece!!
Mine is an 83 s10 you've got all my respect for making those trucks work like they do on stock stuff im running a split leaf mono leaf spring and it works great but I dont know that it works better than yalls
on your slit mono’s are running standard ride height
I swear I have been on the other side of the lowering spindle argument. Seeing the truck at full extension, the light bulb went off. Thank you for all you share! I was one asking for this content, and it's very much appreciated. I hope you continue with it, and tire explanation! You and your family are amazing!
don't beat your self up man this channel is by far my favorite you are doing great keep them comeing
I caught so much flack from Lucore Auto in the comments section of his vidoe for saying what your saying about the ugly hack job on the control arms. If he would have taken his time and done it right. Even Melvin Fredrick laughed at those. I remember you asking him "are you proud of that".🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
Rewatching through your and src’s old vids. Don’t know if you will ever see this question…
Do you think the same concepts would work on a OBS Silverado?
Thanks if you see it
Mr. Bill, our s10 is back halved with a ladder bar setup. It works pretty good. We have been 1.2 - 60’ on no prep. But we have no X brace. Would it be worth adding one to the truck? Any info appreciated. Also, I’ll be hacking our front bump stops tomorrow lol. Cool trick. Love the content, I came back to rewatch this to try and get faster.💪💯
This was super awesome to watch! Its not like ill be giving you any kind of competition at all literally ever with a truck like yours. So my dad and i built a stroker for my s10 probably close to 8 years ago now, 9” rear 3:90 gears and for years its just been something to toy around with a few times a year cause its just real squirrely. Hes told me for years we gotta back half it but thats so pricey for just a toy that i dont plan on racing with.
Its awesome to see that someone can keep something as wild as your truck stuck to the ground without going and breaking the bank for a back half kit and 18” wide tires and all that crazy shit!!
Looks like the caltraks and the shocks should really let me enjoy my truck a hell of a lot more without worrying about loosing traction playing around!!!
Thanks for the video! MUCH APPRECIATED!!
Great great video and info!! I just found your channel bc I’m getting ready to LS Swap my son S10!! I’m definitely a new 👍💯!!
Thanks for the great info! But a question if you or anyone has time, will this all be the same on a later model S10? I'm completely new, never raced, never swapped an engine, and only once helped open an engine but that was years ago. I'm basically starting with little knowledge, and a stock truck. I'm doing research... But I have ADHD so all this is hard to grasp.
I have a 99 Xtreme body S10. Stock everything right now. I'd like to have a procharged 6 Liter in it. Or a screw blown 427. XD
I just need to know where to start if I ever hope to call out billy and his S10 to the track someday. 😅
If you ever want to look at summer old videos with my S 10 write RobertP23 & it shows me at the track with truck & some from CRUISING THE COAST about 45 minutes down the road from me in Hattiesburg. 🙏💯
Good video Bill been telling people this for years maybe they listen to you .
Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have s10 race truck goals, so this type of video is awesome. Saw you guys in WV last week at Southside Dragway. Every car you brought hooked up and went straight down the track. You obviously got this suspension thing figured out. Thanks again.
Sorry, do you run billiet body mounts or poly or rubber? Why not box the frame instead of adding the X brace? Stock rubber bushings on the front control arms? Manual steering box vs quick ratio pwr box? Which would recover quicker? When does it become an advantage to have adjustable shocks vs "standard" 90/10-50/50 Competition Engineering shocks?
What caltracs did you guys get for the Ford 9" I'm gonna me putting a 9" in my 89 s10 with same rear suspension setup thanks
Hey I know this is probably a dumb question. And I don't really ask dumb questions, but I know you guys are pretty die hard Chevy people. But... anyway I want to build a dodge dakota early 90s late 80s. But I know that S10 and Dakotas have quite similar weight and are overall similar, but would most of this stuff, parts, and tips you have explained very well might I add work on a Dakota and maybe work well because, I know each truck, each car is different and that's probably a dumb question but I was just wondering if most of the parts, tips and everything thing said would mostly work on a Dakota.
Looking at your NEW WHEELS.... i was reading about BL yesterday, i specifically read on MT’s website that single BL’s are NOT a good idea. The thinking is that its holding the tire differently on both sidesis (even to me thats no genius!) and is really not a way to go about. With that said, why did you guys go with SINGLES?? Especially since you mentionned the Kid can prolly afford to do whatever ge wants on the truck now. Hopefully youll have a minute to anwser this.... Id really appreciate your input. Love the Channel!!!!