Let's also not forget that the Enclave's mobile base crawler at Adams Air Force Base has an alien blaster and several alien blaster cells in a storage crate. So, either the East Coast Enclave inherited this alien equipment from their West Coast brethren, or they acquired it during their tenure in the Capital Wasteland.
I believe the outcast fort had alien cells too. May have been prewar captures distributed across the country for research. Perhaps even influencing advancement into laser/plasma tech. Either way, just conjecture until confirmation
I think a cool future easter egg could be something like a random moment where the player at night looks up at the sky and sees a Zetan saucer in a dog fight with another alien ship before both quickly take off
Or a lonely Zetan saucer making very rapid, silent lateral movements like in some real world-stories. And if you pay attention long enough, the craft will stop and jump into the air at incomprehensible speeds. This would actually look amazing if you were able trigger this event from above. Like on a hill or some other higher point in the map.
The rockets were supposedly made for short tourist trips and in the ending they return to Primm to support the locals in defending the town and reconstruction after probably achieving enlightenment experiencing cosmic rays and beholding the planet from space.
Did anyone discover the huge room filled with 'Giddyup Buttercup' robotic horse toys in the Zeta Mothership? *The Zetas were manufacturing them and using them for mass surveillance*
The Zetans are using the Giddyups as spy cams, and the Institute uses Mannequins and Birds! Someone is ALWAYS watching you! If that crow looks a little *too* intently at you during your more... intimate moments in the wasteland... Someone's watching.
When you think about it the lone wanderer is technically the first to achieve this as the ending to mothership zeta is kind of like the ending to saints row 4 where you can either search for a new planet with a powerful ship at hand or with all the frozen humans on board build up a force to create a new civilization on the least affected part of earth with powerful zetan tech
I think this part of the story is coming. Maybe not next game, but it will definitely be part of the lore. Explaining who all tried to blast off from earth in a last ditch attempt to save themselves would be awesome
@@painhertz The outer worlds is a great game for people who like fallout style games. It's linear story is a bit short. But that's just an issue if you play it point to point with the linear story and actually never explore other locations and people. I would'n call it garbage at all. Starfield i had bigger expectations for. But it disappointed so much more. Starfield is close to being garbage to me. But i don't think it deserves such a low rating either. It is still a game. It function somewhat how you expect a bethesda game to work. And it has a story. None of it is great. But it's okay. Wishlist it and buy it on a 90% sale and you'll actually enjoy it. Outerworlds didn't have the budget starfield had. It's not as vast. But it has more filling and has to me a better narrative that you follow as well.
Theory. The zetans are reminents from there own post apocolyps of a larger galactic civilization. They're trying to make abominations and destroy humans to repopulate a planet, but lack the additional resources to do it well. They're basically space raiders on a much bigger and longer time frame than humanity.
@@caradog1081 I feel like this is that "it's about space wizards and laser swords, it's not supposed to make sense" argument. Just because the Fallout universe is wacky doesn't mean it has to be stupid
Zetans, Bright Brotherhood, Robotic defense satellites. The enclave did have access to most of the US Satellite defense systems and reconnaissance, including mentions of a Space station in orbit supposedly still in operation but is unmanned with automation.
Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enclave. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to spread democracy through superior firepower where no American has gone before. *insert Star Trek music*
I've always been fascinated by the Garden of Eden Creation Kit, but apart from the Matter-Energy Replicators a GECK is made up of technology that Fallout already has, and isn't that far away from where we are now technologically, but if you read the Fallout Bible it says there is no Matter-Energy Replicator in a GECK.
The fake moon rocks thing is totally a part of real American kitsch. Still exists. When I was a boy and visited the US, before I moved here from Ireland, my dad got me one from a souvenir shop in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (which is actually the capitol of the state; people assume it's Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. I did until I lived here). Still have it. It's actually just a chunk of white granite that has a sticker that says 'moon rock' on it. I still kind of want to know what the Enclave wanted in Fallout, because at least some factions had plans to just abandon Earth and go to the moon or Mars according to some lore. Actually, I'd just like the Enclave to be more fleshed out. There are obviously competing factions within it. Some characters are clearly not so draconian. An Enclave civil war could be an interesting thing, perhaps during an invasion by the Zetans (they think humans are weakest when even the strongest of them are fighting themselves). Could make for an interesting storyline I think. Also, I think you left out Archimedes II. It was an Enclave space station.
Fun fact Neil Armstrong and buzz aldrin gifted a chunk of moon rock to the government of Holland, they had it tested & it turned out to be petrified wood & nobody could explain why.
@@bruhdon4748 Yeah, that was a gift to William Drees, right? He was the prime minister at the time I believe. No one knows why he just gave him petrified wood and said it was a moon rock. So odd. And Armstrong has since passed away. Buzz Aldrin was there too, but he's not talking either. I guess they just thought it was a funny joke.
@@AnnPMadera me personally I like to think it’s something deeper than that, have you ever seen what they all look like when they came back from the moon? They all looked like they had PTSD and saw some shit, there was also this weird interview with i believe buzz aldrin on a talk show where he corrects the host & said you was watching a puppet show and we never went to the moon etc idk just fishy
@@bruhdon4748 I believe they went to the moon, but Aldrin said something very odd once. Weirder than that. Aldrin believes in aliens, and implied they weren't allowed to talk about it, but would say things like, "There were sounds on the exterior of the hull. Something was knocking." Armstrong said something similar but not so blatantly.
You forgot this: The Archimedes II space station, as it is named with that huge ass neon lighting, is the Enclave's secret orbital base that the Courier can visit and destroy with the NCR Exiles, and is totally not something out of Dead Space or CoD Infinite Warfare. It is protected with numerous smaller fighters armed with lasers. Only real fans will know what I'm talking about.
I'm glad to see you brought up Outer Worlds. It is a very curious game that feels like it's a continuation of his goals. In the game, they refer to a great war happening, and having sent humanity out to the stars for future colonization and whatever else. Only makes you wonder, beyond dismissing as references.
To me it seems like there could have been a plotline with these zetans far larger than the original DLC. But time and space didnt allow them to fully flesh out a complete narrative. For that, and considering that pretty much every other possibility is always questioned by something different, I say the Zetans starting the war is a pretty good solid plot theory over the rest of them all.
Tbh if a fallout game took place partially in space I think that would do well Like just start it in the same fashion as the mothership zeta dlc Have us in a very small area, crash, we investigate, get abducted either by zetans or by the crew of mothership zeta (maybe to save the lone wanderer if he survived to keep being their captain?) And become the new captain halfway through the plot line Then just have like a limited area on like 3 or 4 planets, including earth at the end
@@ItsDaHoots you will love to know that the original fallout story was supposed to take place in a planet out of our solar system because Earth was taken over by Dinosaurs. That was the original script for fallout
The Zetans being the ones behind the Great War is a neat twist...but it arguably undermines one of the big themes of the Fallout series: that it was humanity's greed and cruelty and paranoia that did it in. That we're our own worst enemies and our obsession with some shiny Golden Age caused humanity to stagnate in a variety of ways that led to the US and the PRC nuking one another because both sides wanted to be top dog. Though, the Zetans doing an Emperor Palpatine and manipulating various Earth nations into destroying one another without actually doing anything directly IS an interesting story idea...an encounter with the Zetans positing the argument that all they did was watch or study our behaviour, nothing intentionally malicious to conquer the planet...
@@generalilbis I agree. Another reason I don't see space (or even other countries) playing a major role in a fallout game is that Fallout is at it's core a story about The US.
I could maybe see that, not sure about starfield though, the games would have to take place thousands of years apart, however in Fallout it is mentioned that their was an old society/civilization with advanced tech, I personally don't know much about it, I'm just going based off what I saw/heard in a video eitherway the society/civilization did eventually fall apart, I don't think it's mentioned why though. Starfield would have to take place in the far future, like far far, like 300 years at the very very least, and that's being optimistic and hoping that Humanity could bring back some level of civilization within that time period, however a realistic time frame imo would be 600 - 2000 years in the future, maybe more depending on how long it takes for humanity to recover.
@@_easyconcept it's basically impossible for both to be in the same universe, since The Elder Scrolls follows a really different way of how the universe works, but it's kinda funny to imagine still. Would Caesar's Legion be based on what Empire of TES? the Reman Dynasty?
Great perspective of Fallout and it's setting, however there it one facet that is not covered in this video. The Hubologists in Fallout 2 do actually travel into space on a parallel to the VentureStar shuttle vehicle with the help of the Chose One if the player makes it so. The game does not say how far they get, but they are in space long enough to run out of oxygen and asphyxiate. This fact does suggest that spacial travel is possible despite potential Bethesda story limitations.
After NOT Blowing up the Institute it felt like there was a missing story and a Huge secret still left to be found.. Especially with the way youd put synths together and then the Mutant lab secretly hiding in the back of the Institute Zoo
This was a cool idea for a video. I had forgotten most of the space stuff in FO3. I did play the Mothership Zeta DLC and remembered loving it. I do also love that mural in Concord. I wonder if they used any giant robots in that moon battle? I will have to stop by there and look again. As I am replaying FO4 with a video idea that I have in mind.
Delta IX also means the Delta line went through 5 more revisions as the current version is Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy, though the single stick is retired and I think the heavy only has one flight left.
There was a cult who traveled into space in Fallout 2, and the character of Tim Kain in Fallout stated that they were using the vaults as a test of how prolonged space travel to nearby stars in generational starships taking years to make the journey to Centauri or Tau Ceti
don't forget satellites like the one from Poseidon Energy (i think it was called Archimedes) that contained a kind of super laser. who knows how many other such sats were in orbit.
If there's ever a Fallout game where you can visit the White House I think itd be neat if you could find an expertly locked terminal with its contents confirming several conspiracy theories from real life in the world of Fallout, like maybe Vault Tec helped fake the moon landing or found aliens when they went to the moon or something, idk i think it could be neat, and maybe the confirm other theories people have about the lore of Fallout and some miscellaneous real life stuff as funny references
I think it’s supposed to be one of the robots you can encounter on the mothership. Still really similar though, flatwoods monster might be some kind of piloted version of them.
It's not really an "outer" space thing, it's a bunch of satellites in geostationary orbit around the earth that happen to have weapons, little different to our world
Carl Bell must have $h!t himself several times over that 12 minute and 7 second flight around the planet. Compare his flight to the roughly 90 minutes it takes the International Space Station to get around the earth. I realize his ship had a rocket engine propelling it through the atmosphere but still, the man must have been terrified. What a way to go.
I remember in fallout 2 there was an AI called Skynet that was made from alien tech which became aware in 2081, it makes a comment about its creators giving it new instructions in 2120 despite its human makers wouldve mostly likely be dead.
I'm surprised that highly technical factions like the Brotherhood of Steel haven't recovered and at least tried to reverse engineered the Zetan technology.
Mr House bares an uncanny resemblance to Howard Hughes, but one could surmise that the people who started the war had a ringside seat from their vault on the moon.
I think it would be cool if the international space station was still there and perhaps Mr Gutzy’s were taking other satellites and fusing it all together.
14:30 Keep in mind that this last mother ship was captured by the wonderer and is controlled by the medic from the USSA. Also I remember the recording from the linguistic. She was a linguistic in the USSA military and was trying to get them to stop shocking her. Then through a brief integration, she discovered that they understood her. She was both surprised and relieved. Sadly this feeling was also brief as she soon discovered what her fate was. She fell asleep as she pleaded with them. Sadly I never discovered what happened to her and I assumed she died. I really wanted to find her as she would have been a great help on the ship.
The alien kneeling and praying as it makes what looks like movements indicating begging for its life could either indicate they have a religion or religions similar to ours OR they understand us enough to know that kind of thing might cause someone to refrain from killing them long enough for them to escape or help to arrive.
Well they never bothered to learn to speak with us for over 600 years and they only got what they can see, yeah 600 years of seeing that pop up woeking every so often, perhaps the zetan command updated the emergancy information packets on human escape/conflict amd what to do.
The Mars Shot Project is detailed in Fallout 4; a pre-war US plan to send the first manned mission to Mars. Funding was cut shortly before launch due to the outbreak of the war, but you can still use the rocket engine to destroy a load of synths.
3:12 ... did you really just pronounce the Roman numeral nine in Delta IX as eye-ex? Please don't tell me you would pronounce Saturn V as Saturn vee or Virgo III as Virgo eye-eye-eye ....
in new vegas the speed at which the rockets fly though the air is actually nuts when you compare with real life rockets and think about the momentum build up IN space with that atmospheric speed in mind.
Ohhh that be a bit much remmber there trying to pool in new viewers not just old fans and they got alot to hold up, meam maybe when they got a good opening or need a break frim the wastland for an arch.
@@ryushogun9890 shame it seems they know what there doing so your kinda wrong for now but that show could 180 into the ground just as easy, also could you really think aliens in s1 would work?, even z nation wiated a bit before they broke out there aliens episode.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Zetans were just humans who actually did escape earth but due to how time works in space they appear much, much older and different
FO5 should take place at least partially on the Moon. A massive functional moon colony overrun with sentient Zetan ghouls, vacuum resistant super mutants, and Chinese ferals.
The whole invasion events were pretty cool on 76. You kinda missed that. But otherwise it could have used some more thought into it. Hope we get more zetan content in the future.
They probably come from earth originally, Lorenzo Cabot discovered a n ancient advanced civilization and got the crown which changed him but he was still also very much himself, just more intelligent and apathetic to his family. He prolly found the original zetan civilization as they left it before leaving to explore and returning to find humans have barely advanced and in fact sent themselves back a few hundred years.
We're going to end up with one of those in reality, I figure. May as well have it in-game as a "we know what you did last summer" kind of message to them.
You forgot about the Doctor Who Easter egg in one of the first two Fallout games. It may just be an Easter egg, but it still happens in one of the main line games.
I remember that there was info in f1 or 2 that some astronauts stayed on space station. They compiled knowledge needed to survive in post apo. and they are brotcasting it via radio. they are dead but brotcast is still on.
Ever since I played Mothership Zeta, I was convinced that The Zeta started The Great War. Either on purpose because we pose a threat to their hegemony or on accident from their warp drives setting off nuclear activity detection stations.
@@michaelk5676 also possible they somehow do not know American rockets as well, As there is a real life Delta series stopping at 4, Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy. the Heavy is a triple stick meaning for people not knowing their ULA vehicles it looks like a Falcon Heavy.
Let's also not forget that the Enclave's mobile base crawler at Adams Air Force Base has an alien blaster and several alien blaster cells in a storage crate. So, either the East Coast Enclave inherited this alien equipment from their West Coast brethren, or they acquired it during their tenure in the Capital Wasteland.
I believe the outcast fort had alien cells too. May have been prewar captures distributed across the country for research. Perhaps even influencing advancement into laser/plasma tech. Either way, just conjecture until confirmation
What what what, Alien blasters?!
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@@jaredhennessy9146 Have ya never found out about alien weapons?
Man... Who was Enclave (authoritaran USA) fighting? They need to picture China being just as badass.
I think a cool future easter egg could be something like a random moment where the player at night looks up at the sky and sees a Zetan saucer in a dog fight with another alien ship before both quickly take off
or a zetan saucer fighting another zetan saucer before one of them wins, and shoots a laser at canada.
@@Fermi_Consistency oh god no not another one
@@Fermi_Consistencygood riddance
@@Fermi_Consistency lmfao thats too much for just one easter egg cutscene
Or a lonely Zetan saucer making very rapid, silent lateral movements like in some real world-stories. And if you pay attention long enough, the craft will stop and jump into the air at incomprehensible speeds. This would actually look amazing if you were able trigger this event from above. Like on a hill or some other higher point in the map.
You know what's up there? Another settlement that needs your help, I've marked it on your map.
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What's in space? Ghouls, because I helped send them to the great beyond.
with there little suits on and all
Based
The rockets were supposedly made for short tourist trips and in the ending they return to Primm to support the locals in defending the town and reconstruction after probably achieving enlightenment experiencing cosmic rays and beholding the planet from space.
nah. One of them crashed and got eaten by deathclaws. The rest went to the glowing sea
@@elixxonNovac actually, I just started play and got that ending in my first play through
Did anyone discover the huge room filled with 'Giddyup Buttercup' robotic horse toys in the Zeta Mothership?
*The Zetas were manufacturing them and using them for mass surveillance*
The Zetans are using the Giddyups as spy cams, and the Institute uses Mannequins and Birds!
Someone is ALWAYS watching you! If that crow looks a little *too* intently at you during your more... intimate moments in the wasteland... Someone's watching.
@@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree I always feel like...somebody's watching me, and I got no privacy! oh-wo-oh!
Never played f3 but that sounds funny af to find
Im pretty sure fallout 4 debunks this lmao
@@stamp503 Not entirely. The Zetans could've produced them after the war, independently of Wilson Atomatoys.
When you think about it the lone wanderer is technically the first to achieve this as the ending to mothership zeta is kind of like the ending to saints row 4 where you can either search for a new planet with a powerful ship at hand or with all the frozen humans on board build up a force to create a new civilization on the least affected part of earth with powerful zetan tech
They didn’t seem so superior when I captured their whole damn mothership with a shovel.
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edit: Underrated joke. Fuck the veiws, that was funny
I think this part of the story is coming. Maybe not next game, but it will definitely be part of the lore. Explaining who all tried to blast off from earth in a last ditch attempt to save themselves would be awesome
Plot twist, those people are the frozen settlers aboard the Hope in The Outer Worlds
@@tommyp697 this actually works really well because of a certain twist in Outer Worlds.
@@tommyp697 The Outer Worlds was garbage.
@@painhertz The outer worlds is a great game for people who like fallout style games. It's linear story is a bit short. But that's just an issue if you play it point to point with the linear story and actually never explore other locations and people. I would'n call it garbage at all. Starfield i had bigger expectations for. But it disappointed so much more. Starfield is close to being garbage to me. But i don't think it deserves such a low rating either. It is still a game. It function somewhat how you expect a bethesda game to work. And it has a story. None of it is great. But it's okay. Wishlist it and buy it on a 90% sale and you'll actually enjoy it. Outerworlds didn't have the budget starfield had. It's not as vast. But it has more filling and has to me a better narrative that you follow as well.
Yaboii: **slowly creeping towards zetan with camera**
Zetan: "JUST. LEAVE ME. ALOOOOONE!!!"
Kids YT channel moment
Theory. The zetans are reminents from there own post apocolyps of a larger galactic civilization. They're trying to make abominations and destroy humans to repopulate a planet, but lack the additional resources to do it well. They're basically space raiders on a much bigger and longer time frame than humanity.
nah, if that's the case they'd just steal GEK technology and repopulate mars or something. They've got other plans...
That doesn’t really make sense tho
@@draco_1876 the Fallout franchise doesn’t make sense.
@@caradog1081 I feel like this is that "it's about space wizards and laser swords, it's not supposed to make sense" argument. Just because the Fallout universe is wacky doesn't mean it has to be stupid
That would explain why they haven't wiped out humanity or send a bigger army to take it over.
-Zetans
-Eldritch horrors
-Possibly Bright Brotherhood
-Possibly Enclave
-Possibly Vault-Tec
-Probably robotic missions
-Probably Hubble
Saying there would be Vault-Tec after Enclave is redundant, Vault-Tec is just a puppet corporation of the Enclave
Zetans, Bright Brotherhood, Robotic defense satellites.
The enclave did have access to most of the US Satellite defense systems and reconnaissance, including mentions of a Space station in orbit supposedly still in operation but is unmanned with automation.
ISS you don't want? Bright Brotherhood crashed into the ground.
Hubble was never an actual explorer, they're just the remnants of a sci-fi pre-war cult
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Love your approach to essays. Thanks for the hard work!
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Don't look up. Just don't.
"Gamers don't look up."
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Don't blink
Don't breath (you won't)
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Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enclave. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to spread democracy through superior firepower where no American has gone before.
*insert Star Trek music*
Democracy is non-negotiable!
The word 'frontier' is forever cursed in relation to anything fallout
For our way of Life! For managed democracy!
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I've always been fascinated by the Garden of Eden Creation Kit, but apart from the Matter-Energy Replicators a GECK is made up of technology that Fallout already has, and isn't that far away from where we are now technologically, but if you read the Fallout Bible it says there is no Matter-Energy Replicator in a GECK.
F1 and f2 geck was just a suitcase with seeds in it.
I love fallout so much. Theres so much lore I didn’t even know existed. God i wish I played the older games
I mean.. you can... they're like $5 on Steam
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The gameplay looks a bit too outdated. I wait for remake or something.
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@@frog6054I would jump on a remake. I tried multiple times to play the first fallout. Just couldn't get into. And I love turn-based combat too.
this is one of the better newer fallout channels, keep up the videos they are fire
The fake moon rocks thing is totally a part of real American kitsch. Still exists. When I was a boy and visited the US, before I moved here from Ireland, my dad got me one from a souvenir shop in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (which is actually the capitol of the state; people assume it's Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. I did until I lived here). Still have it. It's actually just a chunk of white granite that has a sticker that says 'moon rock' on it.
I still kind of want to know what the Enclave wanted in Fallout, because at least some factions had plans to just abandon Earth and go to the moon or Mars according to some lore. Actually, I'd just like the Enclave to be more fleshed out. There are obviously competing factions within it. Some characters are clearly not so draconian. An Enclave civil war could be an interesting thing, perhaps during an invasion by the Zetans (they think humans are weakest when even the strongest of them are fighting themselves). Could make for an interesting storyline I think.
Also, I think you left out Archimedes II. It was an Enclave space station.
Enclave just wanted to cleanse the world. They did nothing wrong.
Fun fact Neil Armstrong and buzz aldrin gifted a chunk of moon rock to the government of Holland, they had it tested & it turned out to be petrified wood & nobody could explain why.
@@bruhdon4748 Yeah, that was a gift to William Drees, right? He was the prime minister at the time I believe. No one knows why he just gave him petrified wood and said it was a moon rock. So odd. And Armstrong has since passed away. Buzz Aldrin was there too, but he's not talking either. I guess they just thought it was a funny joke.
@@AnnPMadera me personally I like to think it’s something deeper than that, have you ever seen what they all look like when they came back from the moon? They all looked like they had PTSD and saw some shit, there was also this weird interview with i believe buzz aldrin on a talk show where he corrects the host & said you was watching a puppet show and we never went to the moon etc idk just fishy
@@bruhdon4748 I believe they went to the moon, but Aldrin said something very odd once. Weirder than that. Aldrin believes in aliens, and implied they weren't allowed to talk about it, but would say things like, "There were sounds on the exterior of the hull. Something was knocking." Armstrong said something similar but not so blatantly.
You forgot this:
The Archimedes II space station, as it is named with that huge ass neon lighting, is the Enclave's secret orbital base that the Courier can visit and destroy with the NCR Exiles, and is totally not something out of Dead Space or CoD Infinite Warfare. It is protected with numerous smaller fighters armed with lasers.
Only real fans will know what I'm talking about.
Is the frontier canon?
@@maggiegordon2058 God, no. But also, God, I hope it is (and as a result, is nuked back to hell and high water by some vigilante savior saint)
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@@maggiegordon2058 god i hope not
@@maggiegordon2058 No it fucking ain't, and I thank god it ain't 😂
I never really thought if space exploration when I played this game even tho I had encountered Mr house and other alien activitiy. Love this channel
I'm glad to see you brought up Outer Worlds. It is a very curious game that feels like it's a continuation of his goals.
In the game, they refer to a great war happening, and having sent humanity out to the stars for future colonization and whatever else.
Only makes you wonder, beyond dismissing as references.
ehh
I doubt it.
the Outer Worlds' timeline diverges differently from the fallout world.
@@fremontstreetpresents1415 but it's a good reference for what would happen if Fallout took place in space
Obviously house was the Canon ending of new Vegas and outer worlds is the future of that universe. As house stated a goal of colonizing other planets
And the outer worlds also has a similar ambiance of like the 50s
@@myopickid4180We now know what would happen if you set Fallout in space.
It was called Starfield.
Destroy all humans is like a prefallout game.
To me it seems like there could have been a plotline with these zetans far larger than the original DLC. But time and space didnt allow them to fully flesh out a complete narrative. For that, and considering that pretty much every other possibility is always questioned by something different, I say the Zetans starting the war is a pretty good solid plot theory over the rest of them all.
Tbh if a fallout game took place partially in space I think that would do well
Like just start it in the same fashion as the mothership zeta dlc
Have us in a very small area, crash, we investigate, get abducted either by zetans or by the crew of mothership zeta (maybe to save the lone wanderer if he survived to keep being their captain?) And become the new captain halfway through the plot line
Then just have like a limited area on like 3 or 4 planets, including earth at the end
@@ItsDaHoots you will love to know that the original fallout story was supposed to take place in a planet out of our solar system because Earth was taken over by Dinosaurs. That was the original script for fallout
@@HotMochaCake I love that idea and I hope obsidian does something with that
The Zetans being the ones behind the Great War is a neat twist...but it arguably undermines one of the big themes of the Fallout series: that it was humanity's greed and cruelty and paranoia that did it in. That we're our own worst enemies and our obsession with some shiny Golden Age caused humanity to stagnate in a variety of ways that led to the US and the PRC nuking one another because both sides wanted to be top dog.
Though, the Zetans doing an Emperor Palpatine and manipulating various Earth nations into destroying one another without actually doing anything directly IS an interesting story idea...an encounter with the Zetans positing the argument that all they did was watch or study our behaviour, nothing intentionally malicious to conquer the planet...
@@generalilbis I agree. Another reason I don't see space (or even other countries) playing a major role in a fallout game is that Fallout is at it's core a story about The US.
“In the Fallout universe very little attention is given to the stars above”
Mothership Zeta: “Am I a joke to you?”
Yes. The whole dlc is a joke.
Think of all the mint bottle caps left over on the moon. It's worth going just for those.
I've always like to believe The Elder Scrolls, Fallout & Starfield are in the same planet/universe at different times in history
Maybe fallout is a plane of oblivion?
Same.
That seems largely impossible, but kinda wacky. Are the fallout eldritch just a remnant from herma-mora?
I could maybe see that, not sure about starfield though, the games would have to take place thousands of years apart, however in Fallout it is mentioned that their was an old society/civilization with advanced tech, I personally don't know much about it, I'm just going based off what I saw/heard in a video eitherway the society/civilization did eventually fall apart, I don't think it's mentioned why though.
Starfield would have to take place in the far future, like far far, like 300 years at the very very least, and that's being optimistic and hoping that Humanity could bring back some level of civilization within that time period, however a realistic time frame imo would be 600 - 2000 years in the future, maybe more depending on how long it takes for humanity to recover.
@@_easyconcept it's basically impossible for both to be in the same universe, since The Elder Scrolls follows a really different way of how the universe works, but it's kinda funny to imagine still. Would Caesar's Legion be based on what Empire of TES? the Reman Dynasty?
Did you forget the full-scale Zetan invasion of Appalachia?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't fallout 76 non-canon to the rest of the fallout series?
@LCARS DATA NODE ok sweet! I take it back then. I thought the devs had made a statement but I'm probably thinking about some other game!
@@aspenator42 it is canon
@@eliphas_vlka I'm happy to be corrected!
@@aspenator42 I think Fallout 76 operates on the same logic ESO does. It's """technically""" canon, but takes place in a different timeline
Great perspective of Fallout and it's setting, however there it one facet that is not covered in this video. The Hubologists in Fallout 2 do actually travel into space on a parallel to the VentureStar shuttle vehicle with the help of the Chose One if the player makes it so. The game does not say how far they get, but they are in space long enough to run out of oxygen and asphyxiate. This fact does suggest that spacial travel is possible despite potential Bethesda story limitations.
I think this series is covering the Bethesda games online. Interplay lore is mostly its own separate thing.
After NOT Blowing up the Institute it felt like there was a missing story and a Huge secret still left to be found.. Especially with the way youd put synths together and then the Mutant lab secretly hiding in the back of the Institute Zoo
This was a cool idea for a video. I had forgotten most of the space stuff in FO3. I did play the Mothership Zeta DLC and remembered loving it. I do also love that mural in Concord. I wonder if they used any giant robots in that moon battle? I will have to stop by there and look again. As I am replaying FO4 with a video idea that I have in mind.
Delta IX also means the Delta line went through 5 more revisions as the current version is Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy, though the single stick is retired and I think the heavy only has one flight left.
I've always seen the Zetans as more legend than cannon.
Mr. House's space visions were just pipe dreams
He’s a genius with a giant army of robots I’m sure he can get a space program up and running.
There was a cult who traveled into space in Fallout 2, and the character of Tim Kain in Fallout stated that they were using the vaults as a test of how prolonged space travel to nearby stars in generational starships taking years to make the journey to Centauri or Tau Ceti
Mr. Pebbles, the only Space Hero we need! 😺
don't forget satellites like the one from Poseidon Energy (i think it was called Archimedes) that contained a kind of super laser. who knows how many other such sats were in orbit.
If there's ever a Fallout game where you can visit the White House I think itd be neat if you could find an expertly locked terminal with its contents confirming several conspiracy theories from real life in the world of Fallout, like maybe Vault Tec helped fake the moon landing or found aliens when they went to the moon or something, idk i think it could be neat, and maybe the confirm other theories people have about the lore of Fallout and some miscellaneous real life stuff as funny references
Isn't the White House destroyed in Fallout 3?
The Bright Brotherhood is floating around somewhere up there
6:17 that’s that one cryptid from 76 the flat woods monster I think
The hologram
I think it’s supposed to be one of the robots you can encounter on the mothership. Still really similar though, flatwoods monster might be some kind of piloted version of them.
I think Starfield would fit the whatif scenario you suggested far more than OuterWorlds.
Sadly no starfield doesn't have the divergence
Seems the giant orbital laser in FNV is tossed aside. You know the one arcade said was cool and got mad when you activate it
It's not really an "outer" space thing, it's a bunch of satellites in geostationary orbit around the earth that happen to have weapons, little different to our world
@@GobtikMore outer space than America's first man in space
"SPAAACE"- command and conquer red alert 3
Tim Curry = legend
Carl Bell must have $h!t himself several times over that 12 minute and 7 second flight around the planet. Compare his flight to the roughly 90 minutes it takes the International Space Station to get around the earth. I realize his ship had a rocket engine propelling it through the atmosphere but still, the man must have been terrified. What a way to go.
I think the writers just didn't know much about spaceflight, orbiting around earth in 12 minutes isn't physically possible lmao
I just noticed the voice actor that plays Mr house is the one that plays Odo in star trek DS9
RIP René Auberjonois
I remember in fallout 2 there was an AI called Skynet that was made from alien tech which became aware in 2081, it makes a comment about its creators giving it new instructions in 2120 despite its human makers wouldve mostly likely be dead.
I'm surprised that highly technical factions like the Brotherhood of Steel haven't recovered and at least tried to reverse engineered the Zetan technology.
1:44 is that EFFING DEACON in the middle?
Mr House bares an uncanny resemblance to Howard Hughes, but one could surmise that the people who started the war had a ringside seat from their vault on the moon.
In Starfield I really want to stumble on a ancient space station and find Vault-Tec stamped all over it.
Vault-Tec is just a puppet corporation of the US Government/Enclave, if they built any space stations it would probably have Enclave markings
I think it would be cool if the international space station was still there and perhaps Mr Gutzy’s were taking other satellites and fusing it all together.
Love the lore and perspective to fallout really lets me get creative. Your OUTER WORLDS take is so awesome
I call Outer Worlds, Space Fallout
This video popped into my feed I thought it was an older video turns out it’s not even a day old as of writing this lol amazing job btw
I love space in fallout knowing theres aliens somewhere out there
12:38 Well damn. I think we might have stumbled on the real origins of the Emperor
Dr Who is canon, you can't convince me otherwise.
14:30 Keep in mind that this last mother ship was captured by the wonderer and is controlled by the medic from the USSA.
Also I remember the recording from the linguistic. She was a linguistic in the USSA military and was trying to get them to stop shocking her. Then through a brief integration, she discovered that they understood her. She was both surprised and relieved. Sadly this feeling was also brief as she soon discovered what her fate was. She fell asleep as she pleaded with them.
Sadly I never discovered what happened to her and I assumed she died.
I really wanted to find her as she would have been a great help on the ship.
The alien kneeling and praying as it makes what looks like movements indicating begging for its life could either indicate they have a religion or religions similar to ours OR they understand us enough to know that kind of thing might cause someone to refrain from killing them long enough for them to escape or help to arrive.
Or the animator forgot the religious aspect of that praying hands pose.
@@RedSntDK I highly doubt that.
Well they never bothered to learn to speak with us for over 600 years and they only got what they can see, yeah 600 years of seeing that pop up woeking every so often, perhaps the zetan command updated the emergancy information packets on human escape/conflict amd what to do.
Maybe after studying us for so long they picked up our mannerisms
Another quality video Yaboii!
"The Hubologists need fuel for their spaceship".
Imagine a Fallout series where the setting is the aftermath of a Zetan invasion rather than nuclear war.
I'd play that.
The Mars Shot Project is detailed in Fallout 4; a pre-war US plan to send the first manned mission to Mars. Funding was cut shortly before launch due to the outbreak of the war, but you can still use the rocket engine to destroy a load of synths.
Starfield should have followed the Enclave faction that left earth
3:12 ... did you really just pronounce the Roman numeral nine in Delta IX as eye-ex? Please don't tell me you would pronounce Saturn V as Saturn vee or Virgo III as Virgo eye-eye-eye ....
lol this guy
weirdo
@@rottenapple_ ; Yes you are buddy.
@@FirstDagger im not your buddy, weirdo.
@@rottenapple_ ; Whatever you say buddy. Now do you have something constructive to add?
in new vegas the speed at which the rockets fly though the air is actually nuts when you compare with real life rockets and think about the momentum build up IN space with that atmospheric speed in mind.
Without all the light pollution the sky sure is pretty
We all know it's President Kimbel in a low orbit space laser to collect taxes
Starfield is what is in space.
Damn, Mr house sounds like Odo doing an impression of Quark.
To be fair, René Auberjonois was in his late 60s when he recorded the voice lines for Mr House.
It would be rad to find a random cryptic episode in the Fallout series of aliens in New Vegas
Ohhh that be a bit much remmber there trying to pool in new viewers not just old fans and they got alot to hold up, meam maybe when they got a good opening or need a break frim the wastland for an arch.
@@alexshinra6722 that's the same mind set of movies and series based in games which failed.
@@ryushogun9890 shame it seems they know what there doing so your kinda wrong for now but that show could 180 into the ground just as easy, also could you really think aliens in s1 would work?, even z nation wiated a bit before they broke out there aliens episode.
@@alexshinra6722 Bruh, I said New Vegas, not the first season.
Honestly seeing the very crude design for the FlatWoods Monster Easter egg on the ship was very nice to see.
I'm looking forward to Fallout Easter eggs in Starfield
I hope it’s loaded with them! Like the bright followers from new Vegas would be amazing 😂
Delta IX is Delta NINE
A evil toaster that wants to burn the world. 😂
its whatever Starfield will be
How many seasons before the Fallout show goes to space?
Rip lika she was a stray but she’ll always have a home in our hearts
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Zetans were just humans who actually did escape earth but due to how time works in space they appear much, much older and different
FO5 should take place at least partially on the Moon. A massive functional moon colony overrun with sentient Zetan ghouls, vacuum resistant super mutants, and Chinese ferals.
The whole invasion events were pretty cool on 76. You kinda missed that. But otherwise it could have used some more thought into it. Hope we get more zetan content in the future.
Fun fact, Bethesda originally planned for Starfield to have its place in fallout cannon
It would be cool if Zetans were in Starfield!
They probably come from earth originally, Lorenzo Cabot discovered a n ancient advanced civilization and got the crown which changed him but he was still also very much himself, just more intelligent and apathetic to his family. He prolly found the original zetan civilization as they left it before leaving to explore and returning to find humans have barely advanced and in fact sent themselves back a few hundred years.
Souvenirs moon rocks??? Don't they know those are poisonous?
I still hope the Hubologists made it to space and ran out of air and that we can visit their spaceship at some point
I can tell you one thing that’s in space, a ship full of ghouls just floating around for eternity 😂
You know a stealth Chinese colony on the moon would be an intresting hook
We're going to end up with one of those in reality, I figure. May as well have it in-game as a "we know what you did last summer" kind of message to them.
I loved sending the hubologists to their doom.
doom 2016 has a door that has the vault tech logo on it so its probably best that everyone stays in the wastes for now
Its them dang alerins
You forgot about the Doctor Who Easter egg in one of the first two Fallout games. It may just be an Easter egg, but it still happens in one of the main line games.
I remember that there was info in f1 or 2 that some astronauts stayed on space station.
They compiled knowledge needed to survive in post apo. and they are brotcasting it via radio.
they are dead but brotcast is still on.
Some ghouls from Fallout NV
Valu 101 guy: oh! I’m kidnapped by aliens?
Cool, Let’s kill every set and and take over this ship and their home world.
No mention of the significance of Jangles the Moon Monkey? Lots more to expand on...
Jangles will require his own video.
Oh yeah baby another yaboii banger
That’s why you gotta kill the alien for his Raygun in Fallout 4
Ever since I played Mothership Zeta, I was convinced that The Zeta started The Great War. Either on purpose because we pose a threat to their hegemony or on accident from their warp drives setting off nuclear activity detection stations.
As of the fallout tv show, there are only two candidates for who dropped the first bomb.
It was either china or vault tec
@@Bro1212_ I dont watch slop.
@@gwendeerlin the show was better than the past 2 fallout games combined… wym slop?
speaking of the outer worlds would you ever do videos on it's lore if you ran out of fallout stuff?
Delta eye ex?!
Roman numerals be like...
Funny I was thinking the same thing. No matter how well versed these youtubers seem to be they sometimes lack the fundamentals.
@@michaelk5676 also possible they somehow do not know American rockets as well, As there is a real life Delta series stopping at 4, Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy. the Heavy is a triple stick meaning for people not knowing their ULA vehicles it looks like a Falcon Heavy.
So far alien's and Mothership Zeta... saved you some time. There's nothing else yet
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