*Oh WHAT NOW!?* Friends S3 Ep: 17 & 18 | First Time Watching | (reaction/commentary/review)
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Was nice having a little change of pace with these two episodes. Fingers crossed that Ross and Rachel can work things out... Enjoy :)
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Oh WHAT NOW!? Friends S3 Ep: 17 & 18 | First Time Watching | (reaction/commentary/review)
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Hey Marshmallows! Didn’t expect so many people to be disgusted by my use of the word “cheat” so just to clarify before I get another tonne of comments about it…I know it wasn’t technically cheating BUT it’s still not great 😆
Honestly, people only say that to excuse what Ross did, which it doesn't. It doesn't matter whether he 'technically' cheated or not. It was wrong. End of.
Love your reactions keep going your great 😊🥰
A lot of people think that Ross cheated. And then there are others who keep reminding that "technically he didn't and they were on a break" to justify his actions. This debate has been going on for 25+ years now and there is no end to it 🙃 Some say this, some say that.... and us fans keep on fighting 😅 It's neither here nor there when it comes to this issue, there is no right answer. The ones who say he cheated will never change their minds, the ones who say he didn't will never change their minds. So you have the right to feel which way you want and should not be forced to explain. 😀
He did cheat, don't worry. RE: my comment lol
You’re right. It's not about whether they were on a break or not, it's just that Ross slept with another woman the same night they "broke up." Also the woman he slept with, which no one remembers, is the same woman he talked to Chandler about when they were sharing their fantasies and bedroom stuff. Despite being in a relationship, he looked at her differently. I like Ross, but he always acts so innocent, as if he hasn't done anything, which makes me HATE him sometimes.
Anyone would have done the same what Rachel did.
Oh Oscar, I adore your channel ♥️ Please don't stress about the comments. This is a discussion NO ONE is going to settle 😅 it's been going on for 20+ years.
Getting more aggressive comments can of course be overwhelming, and the bigger your channel gets, the more likely they'll unfortunately increase 💔 I wish that as a community we could shield you from that, but I also hope it doesn't discourage you from voicing your opinions. That, your caring personality, and your giggles of course, are what's wonderful about this space, and why we love you!
Thanks for this ☺️
Matthew was really sick throughout this season, he was losing weight visibly. You will see in the last episode the difference with season 4 where he is in much better shape, he had time to go to treatment during the 3 months of the summer break and had regained his original weight, the difference is spectacular between the last episode of season 3 and the first of season 4. Rip Matty 🤍
22:53- "What is that thing on the wall?" Ah, your first introduction to Gladys! You'll get to know her better later!
Her and her sister are in to stay.
Right, it was already there! Way to think ahead.
When Frank Jr went to get his fiancé and you said “what if it’s Phoebe’s sister?” That would be his sister too 😂😂😂
Yeah but he doesn’t know Ursula exists
@@Emilie_wallin I know but could you imagine he brings in Ursula and then finding out she’s his sister hahaha
@@Emilie_wallin Yes, but he does know what Phoebe looks like, so I feel like it wouldn't be hard to work out the connection, even for Frank Jr.
Yall?? They're TWINS, he would know something was up having already met Phoebe 😂
I honestly agree with your assessment of the Ross Rachel argument. It was never in doubt that they WERE on a break, Rachel said as much during their argument in the previous episode. Even if we agree with Ross' interpretation of it as a break up - it was still the worst possible thing he could have done.
It really bothered me how he tried to gaslight Rachel into forgiving him by blaming her for the break - like he hadn't shown up at her workplace unannounced, caused havoc and dragged Mark into the conversation again - basically pushing Rachel to the brink of despair.
Even considering his actions as genuine mistakes, his behaviour post break up was super annoying. He went around acting like the injured party (which he wasn't) and pulled a complete 180 from his original recognition of the fact that what he did was messed up. Instead of confronting his own insecurities and messed up behaviour, he became mad at Rachel for not being able to forgive him. And I don't blame her. He doesn't deserve it.
don't worry, Rachel and i am sure many others will understand at the end of season 4 when an outsider will settle it all for everyone
I agree! Totally Ross' fault that Rachel dumped him. But Rachel did dump him. Then she had Mark over and lied to Ross about it when he called.
They are both idiots.
Ross is a very insecure person.
Rachel is by far the most selfish, self centered character on the show.
I used to love them both, but the more I watch the less I like either of them.
my main issue with ross is he never respects rachels autonomy.
@@kylem519 Let's be real. Rachel doesn't respect Ross either. Rachel is all about Rachel. Remember when Ross planned a romantic evening with Emily before she went back to England the first time but Rachel ignored his plans and threw her party anyway so she could hit on her customer? Or when she flew to England to ruin his wedding? Or when she convinced his girlfriend to shave her head? Rachael is the most self centered character on the show in my opinion.
He doesn't respect her autonomy, not because he thinks less of her, but because he's totally insecure in himself. Which I agree doesn't matter functionally because it sucks for Rachel no matter the reason.
@@davewade30 agreed! they are both selfish and put their own needs first
I think it’s SO sweet that you have put some thought into Monica’s relationship needs. You’re very intuitive and insightful. I hope you like how her needs end up getting met.
The first time I noticed they literally had Carol pick what is presumably a pube from her mouth after opening the door was both shocking and hilarious. 😂It just felt like something they wouldn't have normally done on tv during this time period.
Wow I never realised that!
Omg I never realized that's what she did, this is hilarious!
I believe it was the actor who played Carol who came up with that bit.
Yep, Jane Sibbett said she took a chance, ad-libbed that and it made through editing and the censors.
One of my favorite fun facts
3:17 Technically, he owes Phoebe $7000 now, given the terms of the agreement.
yeah, this is what I always think.
Oh yeah, she payed him 7000 dollars to quit. I kinda forgot about that.
Chandler really stepped up his sarcasm in these episodes. Too funny!
i feel your pain with ross in the first episode haha
ngl frank and alice's relationship makes me sick. he's 18, probably met her when he was underage and he's her student. if the roles were reversed i don't think no one would be okay with it😅😅
anyone*
A teacher in my middle school was married to a former student. He taught her as an 8th grader then married her like 6 years later. It was... super creepy.
Yeah, the relationship is sickening. He was in a dark place and she was his teacher, she's groomed him since before he was 18 at the very least
I'm grossed out by Frank and Alice and I'm grossed out by Monica and Richard because he also knew and watched her grow up.
@@that.ll_do_pig Monica and Richard were way different than Frank and Alice. Monica was 26 when they got together, and they hadn't even seen each other in years. Frank and Alice was straight up underage grooming.
Haha! Good catch on Carol pulling the hair out of her mouth at the end of the episode. Lots of people miss that. Indeed she definitely was in the middle of something before Ross showed up again 😂
Ugh the Frank and Alice thing... Its so bad! She was his teacher and he is only 18. There is a good chance he was underage when they met. That combined with him calling her Mrs. Knight out of habit makes it feel very groomy and awful. Im glad that everyone on the show reacts with appropriate disgust or at least being weirded out. Even if later they seem to be more supportive.
The best thing to come out of the Ross and Rachel breakup is the mocking and banter between them henceforth.
Yep this is peak Ross and Rachel coming up. Hopefully Cocoa can come to enjoy their petty banter cause he didn't seem to be vibing at all with like most of the petty jokes of these 2 post-break-up episodes. Unhinged Ross is best Ross XD
Monica & Richard didn’t bother me at all because Monica is in her late 20s her brain is fully developed. Then human brain is fully developed at 25, Monica cannot be or would not easily be groomed or manipulated or controlled at the age she was with Richard. But Alice is 44 Frank is 18 and he’s clearly not all together up there so he can be manipulated and controlled and groomed etc. Alice not all the way together up there either so I don’t know how she’s a teacher
Just the fact she’s his previous teacher is gross
But Richard knew Monica as a kid too
22:53 "what is that thing on the wall?" Oh Oscar, just you wait my friend...just you wait...
Hahahaha!! OMG I can't wait for it either! And the way he said it too, and all of a sudden: "What's that thing on the wall!" ... heck I hadn't even noticed it was there and I know what it is!
“Get that thing out of here!”
😂😂😂
Your HUH at, "It's the middle part of my first name." was so funny.
People act like the Ross/Rachel breakup is more equal than it really is. like you said it’s super disgusting that he slept with someone literally mere minutes after that phone call at the club. People in these comments also seem to be blaming rachel to mark coming over?? she never wanted him! she needed a friend and regardless of marks intentions, that was rachel’s. and ross is a insecure man who never believed the word of the actual person he was with. and you can’t tell me it wasn’t a spiteful act for him to hook up with someone- he thinks he was right all along so he’s gonna get back at her. THATS GROSS and i think that’s why he clingsss to the TECHNICALITY of broken up or on a break because he knows that was gross. and then to play victim to the all the other friends really didn’t sit right with me i hardly ever rewatch that episode 😂😒
The technicality is absolutely valid since it's a very big, defining technicality. That technicality meant they were no longer in a relationship and he was absolutely free to do whatever he wanted with anyone else, including sleeping with someone. He had every right to do so. Conversely, Rachel had every right to hang out with Mark or even sleep with him if she'd wanted. They were both single. So, that technicality matters a great deal since it means they were no longer in a relationship.
@@Joker_JAK if they had no intention of getting back together sure. but ross wanted to get back with rachel after sleeping with someone right after their fight is sleazy. that technicality shows his character to me. when he’s hurt he’ll try to hurt back and that’s not something i’d want in a partner, someone who wants to go tit for tat.
@@aliciaa4859exactly. It’s not even so much what he did but his emotional immaturity after the fact. He behaves like he has no empathy for how much that behavior hurt Rachel, regardless of if he’s “technically” right or wrong about them breaking up. Healthy relationships aren’t about winning a point at the expense of someone that you’re meant to love and respect. And he expected to get back together with her after that so if he was behaving like a good partner, he would care about how Rachel felt more than if he can say that he’s right or not. But as we see in so many other situations, being right is the important thing to Ross
Interestingly enough when Jennifer Aniston was asked during the Reunion whether Ross and Rachel were on a break, she said YES! So she agrees with Ross 😂
@@andreshernandez1180 i mean that’s not even what my comment was about but go off
During this year's Emmy Awards "In Memorium", halfway through the pictures, they started playing a beautiful rendition of the "Friends" theme song & they ended with Matthew Perry's picture. I made it until then without crying but as soon as I saw his picture & realized what song it was, I broke.
Damn it, I forget Matthew passed on. Chandler just feels so real and contemporary, even decades later. Iit's hard to believe he's gone even after all this time...
Oscar: That whole episode was the ultimate "hiiiiii" episode.
HAHAHA Excellent Ross impression. 😆🤣
The Frank and Alice relationship is just well it’s disgusting to me because that was his teacher and that just means that she’s potentially been eyeing him the whole time and we don’t really know how old he was when they got together because they said that he was 18 when they were gonna get married and then add on him saying how is he all of a sudden to young now when he was younger when they first got together so he could’ve been like 16 and they said she’s 44 so that’s why the relationship is disgusting to me like you’ve been preying on him essentially.
Big time grooming like MKL and Villi
Rachel: okay that's fine Ross asked first
Ross: how can i make EVERYONE AROUND ME AS MISERABLE AS POSSIBLE FOR THIS INCONVENIENCE WHICH IS MOSTLY MY FAULT
16:40 Oscar, Phoebe's sister is also Frank's sister 🤣
Don't apologize for the use of the word "Cheat". Own it, that's what you think, that's your thought. You are allowed to have your own opinion. If other people don't agree with it, fine. If people are mean or angry about it, it is their problem. Don't let them get to you. Nowadays, everybody is offended about everything. That is their problem.
I noticed you weren't enjoying the humor much about the break up like Ross' dinner with Carol and Ross' over dramatic memorable saying of "WE WERE ON A BREAK". I hope you can appreciate the hilarious petty banter Ross and Rachel will have for some time cause it really what makes this show entertaining going forward. Possibly what makes Ross the funniest character as well from here on out all the way to the end of the series. This is peak Ross despite his messy character from that break up ^^;
OMG, your impression of Ross's sighfull "Hi..." was too good!☺
That thing on the wall it is Gladys. You will see later 😂
It’s not about if they were on a break or not, it’s just that Ross slept with another woman the same night they “broke up.” Also the woman he slept with, which no one remembers, is the same woman he talked to Chandler about when they were sharing their fantasies and bedroom stuff. Despite being in a relationship, he looked at her differently. I like Ross, but he always acts so innocent, as if he hasn’t done anything, which makes me HATE him sometimes.
Anyone would have done the same what Rachel did.
He got drunk and made a mistake, they were broken up and before he made the mistake, he called and she had Mark in the apartment! Yeah that is broken up, I don't blame him for screwing up, he was in a bad mindset.
@@Ashwgun excuses
Yeah his actions come from a place of insecurity and sometimes even cowardness - fear of losing, of being alone, of being "abnormal"/not being the nice guy and fear being cheated on (for his jealousness I blame his first wife Carol).
But like fear often does it leads to exact the things we are afraid of and his fears are making him clingy, hiding his quirkyness and making him mean and acting like a "little", fearfull man. So I have problems with Ross as a character in the show as well.
But I also have problems with Rachel. she is not empathetic not only towards Ross. She is spoiled, wants the things she couldn't have and doesn't know her own feelings. And the break-up (and it was a break-up) originated in her lack of comunication. She couldn't tell Ross her passion for her job until it is to late, she couldn't tell him at any point what priority he and their relationship has to her. She couldn't set clear bounderies to Mark and worst of all she gave up the discussion "the talking", because she couldn't handle it. She might really thought of a "break" when she said it, but when she saw the reaction from Ross and his dispair - she should have known, this is a break up and a hurtfull one.
She didn't want to fight at that point for their realtionship, because Ross always came for her and was making her his priority.
I could totally understand, that she can't get out of her head him having sex with another woman as if their relationship was long gone. But I can understand his devastation going through this break-up and when he wanna fix it by talking to her having his worst nightmare come true, when Mark answered the phone.
Quintessential: I could not blame one side more for this messed up situation, but I think they shouldn't be together at all. Ross cowardness and her selfcentered personality are just not meant for a healthy relationship. For me they are stuck in some drama for the show, that in real life shouldn't be forced togehter.
That's because Ross is The Golden Child of his family so he's used to being made to believe he did nothing wrong
@@that.ll_do_pig yeah
These two are some of my favorite episodes. And without giving you spoilers, that "thing" on the wall will be featured and explained in a later episode.
Chandler always bein funny af. Rip matthew 😭
The crying indian reference is from a television commercial in the U.S. that all gen Xers would recognize.
And was played to death through the 80s until it became an eye-roller. 😀
14:40 I agree with you so much, I honestly can't believe sometimes how many people can't understand something so simple just to defend Ross, or maybe they just ignore it so he can still be the perfect guy in their minds
The ‘break’ could have ment many things si its hard to say if it was a break up or what. Jon favreau (pete) actually auditioned for chandler and didnt get the part. As well 15:37 matthew used hypnosis to quit smoking irl, and generally started smoking at 9-10. (I reccomend his book its a great read)
Of course he didn't. He's a good actor but I could never picture him as Chandler xD
It's not that hard to figure out. Both Ross and Rachel literally say they broke up (not just a break). So it was very obviously a break up.
I will forever hold that a "break up" is different than a "break".. and since Ross stormed out when Rachel asked for a break rather than stick around to clarify what that meant for them before he slept with someone else, he is 100% in the wrong (and I am a huge Ross fan, so that hurts to say lol).
I also like to think that Phoebe's brother would have been the type to have been held back in school some... and it sounds like he met Alice and they fell for each other really quick. So in my head cannon, I have him as 18 when they hooked up and got engaged like right away. It's still a little wrong because she was his teacher though.
Thank you! Rachel proposed a break and Ross walked out before agreeing or disagreeing so they were still a couple when he left so he did cheat
I don't think the age is the biggest problem between Frank and Alice. The fact they were student and teacher is the bigger issue
Nope it was definitely a break up.
@@abdurrehmanali7the technicalities really don’t matter. Rachel did propose a break, he stormed out. she called him to make up and he made, yet another rash decision and didn’t let her talk and ran with that. you gotta really be seeing the show through a different lense if you don’t see that he bulldozed that relationship
@@aliciaa4859 I agree that he did bulldoze the relationship and She should have broken up with him a long time ago, but I'll never agree that he cheated. The difference between a break and a break up is purely semantics. Whether it's been a year or an hour, if you're not actively together, you are free to date or do whomever you want.
the actress of franks fiance is the mom from that 70s show! i loved that show so much when she popped up on this show i was so surprised!! shes such a cutie
There’s a movie with the guy who plays Phoebe’s brother called “The Other Sister”. He basically has the same personality in it and it’s truly heart touching. I saw it in theaters as a kid. 💚-Amber
I dont think it even matters whether or not Ross 'technically' cheated on Rachel. I feel like if you love someone, you generally avoid doing things that would hurt them whenever you can, even if you feel hurt by them. In what universe would Ross think that him sleeping with Chloe wouldnt hurt Rachel, no matter their technical status at the time he did it. There isnt a second where he would have thought Rachel would be fine with it. And the fact that he repeatedly for years tries to claim the technicality is why he is such a dbag. He hurt her, but his focus is almost never about how much pain Rachel felt. Instead of taking responsibility and trying to mitigate her pain, he tries to make her feel like she is 'technically' wrong for being in pain over it. For years, every time he says 'we were on a break' he is trying to invalidate her pain in order to assuage the guilt he should have felt hurting the woman he claimed to love. The whole thing is just a massive demonstration of him putting his ego ahead of Rachel's heart. The technicality of whether or not he was technically single at the time is totally irrelevant - he is TA either way.
Exactly. The debate over the technicality is always missing the point.
When I was 17 two of my closest friends didn't talk for like a year it wasn't dissimilar to this for the rest of us 🤣
oh tysm for commenting that even if they were on a break it was gross what he did I'm so sick of ppl not mentioning that!
love your channel ❤
I *love* Giovanni Ribisi. He's great in everything.
Too bad he's a hardcore scientologist.
@@dickknowspunk Damn, really? That does suck. 😕
Hahaha I never spotted Carol picking a "hair" 😜 out of her mouth before (13:41)! Your reaction made me see it for the first time! Hahaha and I've seen that episode like a billion times too, it was always on the telly on re-runs back in the day. I love that watching you react to these episodes for the first time is making me see things for the first time too! You're such a gem 💎
7:20 The "crying Indian" remark to which you automatically (but not unexpectedly) reacted as if it were racist, is a *specific reference* to a 1970's TV ad, not a joke at the expense of Native Americans, that's why Chandler said *"THAT* crying Indian might come by and save us" and not *"A* crying Indian". When watching older shows it's best to disable the default Gen Z Offended Mode.
What is with the need to act like it’s wrong to respond like something is racist when it is racist? He doesn’t need to know the context of the specific commercial to understand that the descriptor isn’t an ok thing to say. The commercial was racist and Chandler joking about the commercial is racist. Racism isn’t always a malicious thing. That said, we all know that these kinds of jokes were more common in the 90s - because people were more outwardly racist. It’s actually ok to enjoy old media and also to be cognizant that it has its flaws too. It’s a great way to appreciate all the positive changes that we’ve made as a society and to maybe understand people a little better without excusing their past behavior. He clearly still appreciates the show for what it is so there’s really no need to police any valid issues with the more problematic parts
@@virgobreezy22 Again, this isn’t about whether the ad is racist or not, kid, also Chandler merely mentioning it, he didn’t celebrate it. This is about being so brainwashed into being automatically offended by today’s weak society that he failed to understand basic English.
Keep crying though, you remind me of that Indian.
@@virgobreezy22 Again, this isn’t about whether the ad is racist or not, kid, also Chandler merely mentioning it, he didn’t celebrate it. This is about being so brainwashed into being automatically offended by today’s weak society that he failed to understand basic English.
Keep crying though, it’s amusing.
@@virgobreezy22 This isn’t about whether the ad is racist or not, kid, also Chandler merely mentioning it, he didn’t celebrate it. This is about being so brainwashed into being automatically offended by today’s weak society that he failed to understand basic English.
Keep crying though, it’s amusing.
@@virgobreezy22 This isn’t about whether the ad is racist or not, kid, also Chandler merely mentioning it, he didn’t celebrate it. This is about being so brainwashed into being automatically offended by today’s weak society that he failed to understand basic English.
Keep crying though, it’s amusing.
the way ross manages to make himself the victim at all times truly amazes me
Cheater Cheater Ross will ALWAYS be a Cheater
You should read Matthews autobiography. I listened to his audiobook version right after it came out ( its nice to hear it in his voice actually ). Many of the characteristics of Chandler, like him smoking since a young age, came from his own life.
This episode confuses me -- exactly why is everybody so "sorry" for that spoiled, self-centered kid, Ross?
right?? and they’re all more concerned about his feelings than rachel’s when he’s the one who blew the relationship up
@@aliciaa4859Well, she broke up with him and then hung out with Mark right after. Which she had every right to do, but would obviously hurt Ross. Which led to him sleeping with someone else, which he had every right to do as well.
Because he was hurt by Rachel too and they care about Ross.
@@Joker_JAK we disagree 🤷🏾♀️
Unfaithful sympathizers often are unfaithful themselves
If it was Pheb's sister, wouldn't it be his sister too, lol
Let's just be real, Ross is a jerk. He has to be right and get his way. Think of how he treated Monica after he and Rachel started dating. Monica even called him out on behaving like when they are kids, when she hated him for bullying her. Ross is a bully and a gaslighter, and him trying to get the others to feel sorry for him was appalling. Even if we want to pretend that they were on a break and pretend being on a break is the same as breaking up, Ross had already been established as a cheater before that. Remember, Julie? She was sweet, they didn't fight, and they weren't "on a break" or broken up, but Ross cheated on her with Rachel when Ross came to the coffee house to confront Rachel about her feelings. Yes, it was kissing instead of sex, but it was still cheating, and he was stone cold sober, so he couldn't even use being drunk as an excuse for his reprehensible behavior. As for Ross and Rachel, whatever he categorizes their break as, he's still the slime ball who had sex with a woman only a couple of hours after his and Rachel's fight, so clearly, he didn't love Rachel that much if he could do that. And he didn't take ownership of his appalling behavior and continues to not take ownership, because he has to be right. He's the most insufferable main character on "Friends."
You explained it perfectly. Ross defenders are even more annoying and creepy.
We get it you hate Ross…
Someone please explain to me how Ross cheated when Rachel literally broke up with him earlier in the episode.
Did I miiss something?
It seems like lots of people just accept it as fact that he cheated and I don't understand why that is.
Yes, he slept with someone else.
Yes, it was really soon after being dumped.
But he was dumped...right?
So I don't see how that is cheating.
Insensitive, immature, spiteful, sad, self sabotaging, yes! But cheating? I just don't see it.
I’m pretty sure people mainly just feel like it’s gross you’d sleep with someone immediately afterwards regardless of whether they broke up with you or not.
@@thecocoacouch Definitely not a good look. Sorry I missed your pinned comment and added to the tonnes of comments about cheating.
I have been enjoying your reactions! Looking forward to finishing up the series with you!
You realize Phoebe's sister is also Frank's sister, right? 😂
I love Ross but he can be so unreasonable sometimes, especially during this break-up. Dude, Rachel also feels awful about this whole thing and more rightfully so because she took the worst part. Yet Ross keeps trying to make them feel guilty about spending time with her even when she asked first, like he is the victim here... Ross is either the best guy or the pettiest with no in between.
So I think what Ross did was fucked up, but he didn’t cheated. Like even Rachel acknowledge they they where on a break and weren’t together when she spoked to Monica and left the voicemail last ep.
Rachel herself said to Monica after Monica asked how the anniversary went, "We broke up instead" and she said to Ross "can I be your girlfriend again?" She herself acknowledged they weren't together, so yeah they WERE on a break and Ross didn't cheat, he was drunk and sad and vulnerable but ofc he could've just go to his home instead of s bar
It’s not about if they were on a break or not, it’s just that Ross slept with another woman the same night they “broke up.” Also the woman he slept with, which no one remembers, is the same woman he talked to Chandler about when they were sharing their fantasies and bedroom stuff. Despite being in a relationship, he looked at her differently. I like Ross, but he always acts so innocent, as if he hasn’t done anything, which makes me HATE him sometimes.
Anyone would have done the same what Rachel did.
I agree. I am the kind of person who doesn't think anyone should ever have sex unless you are married to that person so unless Rachel thinks Ross is evil for having sex with someone without being married, which she did with him, she has no leg to stand on that he cheated. She can say she doesn't want to be with him but he 100% didn't cheat. He did lie about it but that is not the same thing.
My thing is that people only say that to excuse what Ross did which it doesn't. It doesn't matter whether he 'technically' cheated or not. It was wrong. End of.
@@heidos7 What was wrong? That he has sex? Because he sure didn't cheat. When does the break up buffer zone start and end? Does Ross have to wait 3 days and then receive written permission from Rachel in order to have sex with someone else? Why is Rachel so controlling of who her ex gets to sleep with? She doesn't have to take him back but if someone says it is wrong, they are doing so usually because it is "kind of" cheating, which it was not. If you think it is okay to have sex in a relationship because you are dating, why is it not okay when you are not dating. The logic on Rachel's side is flawed. She is not a victim
But if Rachel said that thing you mentioned, they wouldn't be able to justify pretending there were two victims 👀👀
I don't agree with the way Phoebe handled it, and as much as Frank and Alice seem to be in love it's just creepy. And more because Alice was his teacher than the age difference. It's the power imbalance. He was her student and she took advantage of that. And it's also likely they started the relationship before he turned 18. Some would consider that grooming. Plus, the way Frank acts seems like he may be mentally impaired. Or maybe he's just eccentric and naive like Phoebe. But do a gender swap where it's an 18 year old girl marrying her 44 year old male ex-teacher. That's just gross.
Even though I loved Monica and Richard together, the fact that he knew her when she was a literal baby is kinda creepy.
It's not mentioned here but in 1x03 "The One with the Thumb" Phoebe gives Chandler $7000 as long as he never smokes again. So naturally he should have had to give her the money back.
Writer/creator/executive producer Marta Kauffman is the voice on the hypnosis tape that Rachel gives to Chandler to help him quit smoking.
Jon Favreau had started to get known at this time. He had had small parts in a few movies. Then he starred with Vince Vaughn in Ruby in 1993, which started a great friendship between them and they would work together a lot after that. In 1996 he wrote and produced his breakthrough film Swingers, which they starred in together. And in 2006 he starred with Vince and Jennifer Aniston, who were a couple at the time, in The Break-Up.
I am surprised you are the first person I see pointing out that Alice was Frank’s teacher. Even if he was 18 when they met (and surely he would have been younger unless she changed jobs) it’s still illegal since teacher is a position of authority.
Thanks, Oscar! ☕ Sam Simon and Robby Benson directed these two episodes.
Ross is the most annoying character in my opinion! XD i also love him, but he is so frustrating. He always plays the victim, and feels so sorry for himself, it's pathetic. However, he is also such a sweet guy, romantic, goofy dedicated, ect.... so he can't be disliked haha.
That crying indian line was a reference to this melodramatic ad campaign about environmental preservation that ran in the US in the 90s.
What's with all the "Ross didn't cheat, they were on a break" comments? Do you all agree with that or we're doing a Ross group impression here? 🤣
right i’m so shook by the volume of ross apologists in these comments😭😂
It’s called cheaters guilt, these same people are cheating on their bfs gfs wives husbands etc
@@rydbthatsme You might be onto something
Did ross cheat intentionally?
He was vulnerable....does a woman's vulnerability matters and not man's?
I think is mostly coming from overall how people treat Ross. He did a horrible gross thing and definitely not defending him but then every little thing Ross does people over criticized him and almost never Rachel even though then rachel kinda ruins a lot of his relationships and so people over compensate by super defending him here.
Ross whining and “poor me” is sooo annoying in episode 17, and yes he did cheat on her!
gosh, Ross is just insufferable this (17th) episode😬 well, he's the most insufferable out of all of them in general, but this episode... eesh
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could maybe react to miraculous when you have finished friends (it is a kids show but it has some serious themes like death, manipulation, trauma and stuff like that)
When you're thrilled about the Friends upload but you know that also means tomorrow it's ATLA 🙌🙌🙌
can you react to Mulan (the animated one) , its the best disney movie EVER!
They WERE on a break. If she so easily decids to break up with Ross, then good riddance.
Carol can't even be shocked at Ross, she cheated on him with Susan
I don't like Ross anyway but I lost respect for him completely during this break up. Rachel wasn't happy but accepted they'd all be doing things with Ross whereas he guilted all of them for going skiing for the weekend, "if you all have to go..." Rachel shared their time whereas Ross tried to make them choose.
Ross didn't cheat on Rachel, "THEY WERE ON A BREAK!!!" 😁
And can now that be the last we ever hear about it?😂
"Wouldn't be funny if it was Phoebe's sister?" Channeling your inner Joey, there?🤔😅
Ross i hate him he annoying immature whiny childish selfish like Rachel understood they made plans with Ross like Ross asked first, so when Rachel next time made plans with them Ross should understand aswell but off course he didn't he guilted them and when they felt bad Ross says i don't want your pity like the guys shouldn't care and just tell it to him straight and then they should leave.
Ross ruining carols time with susan and lying about what Rachel did cus again he knows he in the wrong but when carol found out ross slept with another woman Ross trying to defend himself again saying we were on a break
8:37 Yeah...don't think incompatible orientation was a necessary introduction for THIS one to end...
What do you mean?
As in, he's so aggravating, that even if she'd been straight, even if she'd ONLY ever been into him, she likely would have left him anyway.
Right 👌 gotcha. Yeah it’s definitely a mix of maturing and the right partner.
I say that any age gap more than thirteen years is pushing the limits forgett twenty years
Well You will see Oscar,that Phoebe will be of great help regarding the relationship between Franck and Alice....
Wait, did I hear you right.... 😱 "Wouldn't it be hilarious if it was Phoebe's sister?" 😅
Not really..... Ursula is Frank Jr's sister too 🤣
What is the thing on the wall? Hmmm…. No spoilers, but she does have a name and even comes with the Friends LEGO set. Lol
HE CHEATED simple as that, they were just taking a break from each not BROKEN UP, so he cheated, how is that so hard to understand, also welcone to the event that tore a fandom apart
I know you already addressed this in your pinned comment but it’s not that Ross cheated on Rachel because he didn’t because you cannot cheat on someone that you are I guess technically no longer with because a break isn’t really breaking up. It’s more like a pause so it’s kind of like, a break is like a comma in a sentence and a break up is more like the period at the end of the sentence, people often use breaks to do exactly what Ross did as opposed to using the break as time to work on themselves and figure out how they can make that relationship better when they decide to go back to it. I would say that it is safe to say that the communication skills between Ross and Rachel are almost nonexistent. Ross is very much so insecure, and as soon as he heard another man’s voice, he just lost whatever sense that he had, and slept with someone else the same night that they declared being on a break not being broken up. I don’t know how Ross could have had feelings for Rachel since what was it high school and then finally got the opportunity to be with her and then do this monumental screw up
Chandler mentioned that he was imitating Shelly Winters from The Poseidon Adventure (1972). I know you also react to movies, and the original 1972 version of the film is a classic worthy of a reaction, for sure. They also did a sequel movie in 1979 and a re-make in 2006 called Poseidon. In my opinion, the sequel was nothing special and I've never seen the 2006 remake.
As much as I hated this part of the story, it's quite a set-up for Ross and Rachel's future hilarious squabbles.
You are easily my fav RUclipsr great energy make us laugh and fantastic reactions to friends thank you and bless you 💚💛🧡
Ross who play the victim is hilarious....🙄
Yo franks fiancé is kitty foreman from that 70 show XD killer
Can someone tell me how to find the background music he uses in his outros while commenting?
Chandler is the best!!!
Rachel was the first one to say “we were on a break”, but when Ross says it she disagrees.
Not only that, but she told Monica they broke up. She also calls Ross the next morning and said that she hates this whole "break up" thing and asked if she could be his girlfriend "again". Rachel very clearly thought they were broken up (as did Ross).
Women ☕
It’s still cheating and gross if you do it the same day
Ross becomes unbearable till end of s4
I finally caught up, let's go! 🤘
Can you please please make a reaction to the anime movie "your name". I really enjoy your reaction videos for being so raw and passionate. Hope to see you react to this movie.
IT WAS A BREAK!!!!!!!!
Joey: every night
Lmao
I have to wake up. Watching someone watching fictional characters as if they are real...they are in their 50/60s now. I'm putting my phone down now. Is that real?
Huh?
Perfect reaction! Love you :)
Karma came 13:27
Joey could have that someone special if he would stop being a player a cheater a sex addict just like the others aswell like actually look for someone there is a future with 21:09
Also don't be shallow or a gold digger.
21:09 real friends should be honest even siblings like the Truth hurts sometimes but it's very much needed
Hilarious reaction so much fun 😂😂❤❤
I could never feel bad for Ross after what he did, it doesnt matter if he was right o not before... once you cheat you cant come back from that. Youre an asshole... forever.
19:11 your brother hating you thats better than him doing something stupid and it's just horrible for the kids .its sucks we don't choose our parents
Ross is insufferable and unreasonable 10:10
"cheating AFTER breaking up"?
Monica and ross Shouldn't have a say 17:03 cus they are sick
As others have pointed out Rachel herself says at at least one point they broke up rather than they were “on a break” and regardless I believe Ross thought they had broken up. Also I don’t get the it’s gross/horrible Ross had sex with someone else right after breaking up argument. Rebound sex when depressed & drunk, which Ross seemed to be, isn’t that unusual. He turned the girl down initially yet she was a bit pushy & bought him a drink so in his state he went with the flow. I mean don’t get me wrong as Ross trying to hide the truth was wrong, he wasn’t a very understanding boyfriend, and Rachel at the same time didn’t always take Ross’s feelings to heart so I don’t think their relationship was very healthy.
Everything you said is true, but it’s still gross 😆 it’s normal for people to drink when depressed but it’s still unhealthy.
Just because it isn't unusual doesn't mean it's okay. I can't with people justifying this WHATEVER they call it.
Why the fuck are you defending cheating
@@heidos7And I can't with the psychos who think Ross was wrong.
@@heidos7 acknowledging someone is a flawed human being (like every human, including you) doesn’t mean they are “justifying” anything. It’s part of growing up.
I still blame Mark and Chloe.
Why blame them when it was Ross' fault.
@@MicukoFelton As I said in the last video; Chloe clearly knew what happen and used Ross' vulnerable position to get him drunk and then in bed. I mean look how she even played with Joey and Chandler. And Mark was just so overly friendly and jumped right into the fro. Mark is the last person she should have called. I blame Chloe more than Mark. But Mark should not have. But his over enthusiasm irked me.
@@jessquinn6106 OK mark is ina relationship, him comforting Rachel is NOT a bad thing it's not his fault ross is insecure and it's not chloes fault Ross is easy, he could have pushed her off him, he didn't even try, intoxicated or not he should have pushed her off and left
@@x.mono.x4011 Does not matter. We all know how this ends.
🙄 🙄 🤦♂️ @@MicukoFelton
I‘m not a native English speaker so I‘m wondering what accent you have. Is it Australian?
Sure is!
Nice!@@thecocoacouch
Alright I don't get it, Ross has made a lot of bad decisions but this whole "cheating" thing? He wanted to work on the relationship, Rachel wanted to break up, they broke up, he then wanted to get back together, Rachel wanted to have Mark over instead, they stayed broken up, she then wanted to get back together and so he got back together with her. Literally everything he did was a reaction to her decisions, I'm not saying everything he did was good or smart but a bunch of people are playing this game where they pretend he affected their relationship and she was just an innocent powerless lamb who was a victim of his horrific actions when literally she made every decision about the end/ new beginning of their relationship, she always had the power. What happened is she didn't like the consequences of her actions, which, y'know what, is fine, even Ross thought it was a drunken desperate mistake born from heartbreak that he regrets, but he didn't do that to her, he did that as a result of being rejected by/ broken up with her. Everyone thinks it's dumb, everyone thinks the attitude he takes afterward is childish and that in and of itself is another bad decision by him. Yet somehow so many people have this weird interest in putting all of the responsibility on him and none of it on her even though, when came to their actual relationship status, she had all the power and she made all the decisions.
Rachel said to take a break from us, and before clarifying he stormed out, rachel wanted to make up when he was at the club and he’s the one who hung up on her. Both mark and ross seem to think just because they feel a way, rachel must feel the same way; rachel was very clear she didn’t want mark romantically and if ross hadn’t been so insecure they would’ve been fine, but because he doesn’t trust rachel, hearing him in the background he again didn’t bother to listen to rachel, (the person he claims he loves) and then spitefully sleeps with someone else. you seem to be placing a lot of the blame on rachel when all the ACTION that took place, was ross’ doing
Ross behaved appallingly which lead to the break, stormed out instead of clarifying what the break meant, Mark came over uninvited and the whole time he was there she talked about how she wanted to be with Ross, she wanted to make up with Ross immediately but as soon as he heard Mark's voice over the phone he (once again) stormed off without clarifying what was actually happening and he slept with someone on the same day that he thought they were broken up. Yes Ross is in the wrong and not Rachel. The choices she made were based on how badly Ross was treating her.
@@michaeladundon This is what I'm talking about. "Mark came over uninvited" Yeah, so don't let him in. She actively had over a man she knew was interested in her that Ross hated after telling Ross she wanted to take a break from their relationship. How would you honestly react if someone you were trying to get back with invited over someone you hated who you knew was interested in pursuing them? Y'all act like Rachel isn't an adult who makes her own decisions. Despite that she always had control of the relationship status and her own actions y'all act like 100% of the situation is just Ross doing things and 100% of it is things just kinda happening to poor powerless Rachel. It's infantilzing and it's doesn't come close to reflecting reality.
@@aliciaa4859 That's just not accurate at all, Rachel decided the break, Rachel decided to have over Mark, Rachel decided she wanted to be with Ross again. What Ross was doing wasn't acting it was reacting. To her actions/choices. Ross did decide to sleep with someone else once they were broken up, that is an action he took, but in Rachel's own words they were broken up, so he gets crucified for the one real action he took while they were not together while y'all pretend Rachel made absolutely no choices and that things just kinda happened to her.
@@johnburnscrystaljack like you said, Rachel is an adult, she is allowed to have friends outside of that group. Ross was trying to control who she could talk to and hang out with. If Chandler or Joey had been there he wouldn't have minded but he had a problem with Mark because he was jealous and possessive thinking she would cheat, which is ironic since he is the one who did it. So what if Mark had a crush on her? Rachel made it very clear she wasn't interested and spent the whole time talking about Ross. Ross hating Mark doesn't mean Rachel isn't allowed to be friends with him. People should never try to control who their partner is friends with.