Idaho's logging industry struggles to fill jobs as demand for lumber continues to grow

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  • Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
  • As the demand for timber continues to rise, the logging industry needs to expand. However, companies are struggling to find new people to fill job openings.

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  • @noahgolden-cv1pc
    @noahgolden-cv1pc Год назад +21

    They seem to be under the misconception that nobody want to be a logger because they think it’s just “physical labor” when its probably the pay rate lmfao

  • @booboolapua6482
    @booboolapua6482 Год назад +15

    I logged full time in Florida for 8 years and learned all the pieces of equipment. Was crew foreman for 5 years over 12 men. Loved it. Grew up around it all my life. I went from full time to part time in 2020 to go to nursing school and become a registered nurse. I graduated in 2022. Logging pay is so low, people make twice as much money flipping burgers at McDonald’s. Despite it being fun and fulfilling, it doesn’t support a family financially unless you like driving a wore out pickup truck and living in a double wide trailer. If the industry paid more, it’d be a worthwhile career. But it don’t.

  • @upstatehauling6996
    @upstatehauling6996 10 месяцев назад +9

    It comes down to the sawmills paying the same rate for wood now as it was in the early 80's. When you get the same amount of money per board feet of timber that they did 30 to 40 years ago, and then have the sawmill that your taking it to tell you what they will give you, and to top it off, deduct a third of your load for defect, which it doesn't have. I can make more selling logs as firewood as selling to the mills.

  • @squidreuel
    @squidreuel 3 месяца назад +4

    People dont like getting up at 3am and getting home at 6 or 7pm , a 4hr unpaid round trip in the crummy sucks

  • @ervinbratlien8741
    @ervinbratlien8741 Год назад +4

    Nice to see a news piece where they aren"t just bashing on logging.

  • @funkysawmanwright5077
    @funkysawmanwright5077 7 месяцев назад +4

    I refuse to sit in a cab all day, as a 25 year veteran timber feller in north idaho, i live and die with a power saw in my hands. No wonder the cant find workers, i know many others just like me.

    • @hunteryt2462
      @hunteryt2462 7 месяцев назад +3

      Timber fallers are the way to go not bunchers

    • @funkysawmanwright5077
      @funkysawmanwright5077 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@hunteryt2462 I lost a ton of work due to bunchers and processors

    • @hunteryt2462
      @hunteryt2462 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@funkysawmanwright5077 ya my dream job is cutting timber but its a dying job sadly

  • @Drivapete
    @Drivapete 4 месяца назад +2

    Gerry cut down a tree back in 03 that we hauled to Washington DC. It was the Capitol Holiday Tree!
    I drove the truck.

  • @dev4statingx90
    @dev4statingx90 Год назад +7

    Have they tried paying more?

    • @Drivapete
      @Drivapete 4 месяца назад +1

      Have you ever seen the price of Logging equipment?
      My kid makes 4 to 500.00 a day running a yarder for 8 hrs a day in N. Idaho!

    • @dev4statingx90
      @dev4statingx90 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Drivapete a day? There is not a chance in hell, a week maybe

    • @Drivapete
      @Drivapete 4 месяца назад

      @@dev4statingx90 God is my witness! They HAVE to pay good if you want quality help.
      My employer is getting high school graduates their CDL's and into driving, we are seriously under staffed on the log truck side. The log trucking is paying very well too! McCall is going through the same transition we in St Marie's are. There are lots of retirees or transplants moving in, driving the real estate prices through the ceiling, young people have no chance of buying a home and many are leaving! We keep hoping for a "nuclear winter" in hopes it runs some off.
      In the mean time, the mills are starting high school kids ( Jr - Sr ) in a trainee / mentor program at 25.00 an hr!
      Hell, I'm making almost 300 a day in a chip truck!
      My job, and the mills are also offering insurance and retirement.
      Employers are starting to realize they have to make it a little more worth it to live here than before. I think the whole state is starting to wake up!

    • @hunteryt2462
      @hunteryt2462 3 месяца назад

      ​@@dev4statingx90 one company near me was offering 30$ a hour for a green choker setter in north idaho

    • @Drivapete
      @Drivapete 3 месяца назад +2

      @@dev4statingx90 if I'm lying I'm dying!!!

  • @peppitachips1764
    @peppitachips1764 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m interested in this type of job but I have no idea how to start

  • @oldtimerf7602
    @oldtimerf7602 Год назад +5

    The problem isn't that no younger person wants to be a logger.
    The problem is that no younger person wants to work blue collar at all.
    They all think they should make $250k a year to drink energy drinks and play on tik tok all day.

    • @Mindstangle
      @Mindstangle 6 месяцев назад +5

      Or maybe the boomers left this country much worse than they found it

    • @censoredeveryday3320
      @censoredeveryday3320 2 месяца назад

      I would take a logging job, but I'm probably too old at 43.

  • @carlcarlamos9055
    @carlcarlamos9055 2 месяца назад

    A quick news article cannot do justice to this problem. A two year college coarse is definitely not a cure. The owner complaining that his crew is aging out looks like he is about to age out as well. Decades ago, an absentee timber owner upset the whole economy of mid-Pacific coast logging because he overextended himself. The economics of logging are not simple. The weather in Idaho is a big factor, I imagine. The complaints that the money is not right are probably spot on. If the money was right, the Spanish folks would be lined up. There is a great deal of bull-headedness all around, and if things do not change, the business will collapse, or maybe just fade away. Take care. And if everything goes to hell in a hand basket, I’m looking for a Silvey square chain grinder. Thanks.

  • @karenkrejci1187
    @karenkrejci1187 Год назад +3

    I sent this to my grandson, because he loves logging and wants to do it!

    • @booboolapua6482
      @booboolapua6482 Год назад +3

      Tell him to do something else unless he doesn’t care about having money

    • @hunteryt2462
      @hunteryt2462 Месяц назад

      Thats awesome if he knows how to budget his money he will be fine

  • @scottkelley883
    @scottkelley883 3 месяца назад +1

    It sounds like a pay issues. Those jobs dont pay the bills. Soon those piece of equipment will be autonomous anyways.

  • @chrisfarris2594
    @chrisfarris2594 Год назад +4

    Do some companies offer a relocation fee if someone really wants to go logging?

    • @oldtimerf7602
      @oldtimerf7602 Год назад +1

      That will depend on what you bring to the table. The more you are worth, the more they will do. Call the Idaho loggers council. They will know who you should call.

    • @Drivapete
      @Drivapete 4 месяца назад +1

      Only problem is finding housing, at least in St. Maries.
      A starter home here is 200 to 300k around here!

    • @censoredeveryday3320
      @censoredeveryday3320 2 месяца назад

      @@oldtimerf7602 Do they hire anyone who is 43?

  • @lukelanphear988
    @lukelanphear988 Год назад +5

    I'm still willing able, I should get back n the woods and go logging. Building houses is not as fun as logging.

    • @HabeasJ
      @HabeasJ Год назад +1

      Can confirm that logging is fun (most of the time)

    • @cumminsnchevy
      @cumminsnchevy Год назад +1

      Logging is fun, I loved working in the woods till you don’t have enough money to make ends meet then it really sucks

    • @censoredeveryday3320
      @censoredeveryday3320 2 месяца назад

      @@cumminsnchevy What if I had enough money to buy house and just need $$ for food? Would logging be enough to pay the bills if my house was paid off?

    • @cumminsnchevy
      @cumminsnchevy 2 месяца назад

      ⁠@@censoredeveryday3320 I suppose that would help a lot, but it’s still hard to raise a family on it, I know because I was raised as a timber fallers son, I could do it now with my wife getting the heath care from her job if I fell timber, I do realize that I live in one of the most expensive states there is CA. I became a heavy equipment mechanic because my dad did not want me to be a timber faller🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @garysublett3493
    @garysublett3493 12 дней назад

    Inflation has brung market down..

  • @jamesbohlman4297
    @jamesbohlman4297 Год назад +1

    It's a little to late to do the right thing now.

  • @deadfrequency1259
    @deadfrequency1259 3 месяца назад +2

    "they think its just physical work thats not the case anymore" yeah i almost guarantee the majority of young workers who will get hired will be thrown to the grumpiest crew and straight into the ditch sure the old timers are still in the machine but if you never let the young bucks have a try you'll be out an operator and the young buck despite trying to prevent it....then we cheech

  • @triple6758
    @triple6758 Год назад +2

    What y'all paying?

  • @pallmall5495
    @pallmall5495 Год назад

    gay-bipolar?

    • @jeffeverhart4343
      @jeffeverhart4343 Год назад

      Sounds like you need medical attn.

    • @pallmall5495
      @pallmall5495 Год назад

      @@jeffeverhart4343 No, look at the captioning at 2:05 . His son is named Gay Bi-Color

    • @jeffeverhart4343
      @jeffeverhart4343 Год назад

      Lol didnt notice that