Never been 4x4 in my life I took my parents dmax on wagoe bea h just south of kalbarri yesterday and got bogged down to the axles with no help in sight. I followed all you're tips and got out in an hour. But I tell you the beer I had when I got back to camp had never tasted so good
Here in Argentina I've got a Chevrolet S-10 (Holden Colorado for aussie market) base model, and single traction. I put 10psi in each tyre and driving in second gear I can drive in soft sand. Of course, it's dangerous for the tyres and It isn't recomendable, but I'm poor and I love go to beach :D
I should have watched your video two months ago. I hit the beach in NC USA with my super duty F350 pickup truck on 80 psi. Immediately I got stuck. I had to lower the pressure to 18 psi to get out of the soft and deep sand. 20 psi didn’t work. Thanks for the education!
Very good explanation and reason here.. thanks for posting this it took the mystery out of the differences between different levels of airing down and how much. Great vid !
Snow wheeling I run around 7 psi to get good traction. Every vehicle is different. The lighter the vehicle, the lower you can safely run. Tire size also comes into the equation.
Especially on soft rough surface sand.low pressure in your tyres allows your tyres to roll overlump mounds of sand etc.instead of forcing though the samd.think of it as eliminating the wedge in front of your tyre.
Nice! As a wheelin' "noob" here in the (Southwest) States, I'm trying to get the proper gear together. I just bought a new 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 ("Zed Ah Too" for my Aussie Mates! LOL) and found airing down with a gage a TOTAL pain, airing up with my new compressor was easier. So, I bought the Staun deflators. And since I'm more an "overlanding" guy rather than a mudder or serious rock crawler, I've decided on 28 PSI so I can run at the higher speeds the ZR2 is also good at. Thanks for the vid, this stuff really helps us noobs!
Really helpful. Thank you! I have a 2013 KB300 LX 4x2 that I’m taking to the bush next week. Running same tyres as you. Keen to see how the rig performs on dirt/gravel.
6psi was perfect for my Coily Sierra at Blacksmiths 5 weeks ago. 8psi at Stockton 3 weeks later the zook was working harder to get though the soft stuff. Just going to start at 6psi from now on on the sand...
one thing you didn't mention that makes a huge difference is the elevation you're at. If you start at sea level and climb into mountions you will have a drastic difference. In the mojave i've started at 1100' and travelled to 7200' and had my preasure go from 12 up to 23psi. big difference
I think there's more to it than just the length of the footprint. If it was then you'd only need a bigger tire and you wouldn't get stuck. It also has to do with tire shape. Hard tires will retain their circular profile and dig in but flat tires will conform and become flat on the bottom so they don't dig in.
@@4wdsupacentreAu thx ima tell my dad bought this, in my country its sand like the beach with tree shrubs sometime. also what is the best psi for normal tar road?
I like 20 psi. It seems to get me where ever I’m going (4x4ing) especially all over a dry and soft Frasier Island and leaves room to go a lot lower. Great clip too. That straight forward “hill climb” demo is ideal👍
Ive driven on Teewah at road pressures heaps of times never got bogged but then I avoid the chopped up soft stuff. Cant do it now as they have changed entry tracks.
I have a 4 x 4 Mercedes sprinter that weighs between 9000 and 10,000 pounds fully loaded. Recommended tire pressure is 46 psi front and 67 psi rear. Obviously, dropping both to 16 psi is probably not a good idea with a vehicle that heavy. What would you recommend for sand driving, should I drop the tires by approximately 50%, or, is there another rule of thumb when dealing with a heavy vehicle and different tire pressures between the front and rear?
Hi Jeff, Because you have a bigger car and more weight, It may be an idea to start around 22-24 PSI on beach then go from there. If you need to drop a little more, you may but I would say avoid going too low as you wouldn't want to run your tyre off the frame. Cheers, Saleha
@@zachandtomdad Hi Jeff, for front tyres. Then initially a bit higher for back but I would recommend doing the test to see what exact number works for you before you drop too low. Cheers, saleha
you mean on the road we have to drive our tires with 28psi air pressure. But in the video with the sand, you have road air pressure 36psi which is correct?
*I drove trough mud with 36psi = Stuck* *When i lower to 23psi = No Stuck* *I see in 23 psi, my tires are so long deflated in the tarmac (longer footprint), but sacrifice some ride height.*
The heavier the load the more you need a rough estimate in my experience with same truck would be 15 psi minimum only if necessary for short distance at slow speeds. 20-30 for fairly rough trails with rocks depending on speed and how bad. Regular dirt,gravel roads at moderate speeds around 35 psi.
what did you drive? 80 psi is usually its maximum presure under full load, its not for empty driving.. i you gonna air down at fullload, just see the tire when you deflate it, 70% of its original height works fine to me
Dude, good video. Your tires are too low profile for a good tire. You want a large sidewall, that way it will be far more effective when you lower your pressure. I have 35's with 16 inch rims. A tire like that is far better for off roading than a 20" rim you see on a lot of mall cruisers. Try sand around 9 psi. 16 psi is still pretty high for loose sand. I think you'll like it. Cheers.
When I drive down onto the beach I just leave my tyres on 30R/38F and send it 😂 mighty Triton hasn't failed me yet! Seriously though I need a deflator 😂
strait,as fast as you want,NO BITUMEN,, ,turning,,really big circle,nothing sharp.3 ,4,5,point turn.it should be law,that any one with a recreational 4x4,camping fishing,ect,,& not a member of a registered club..SHOULD DO A 6 MONTH COURSE IN RECOVERY/4X4 DRIVING.
So much for the 2000 rpm comparison on each run, same packed tracks and higher revs each time.. terrible demo, great idea, just not good execution this time. Sand ass tape measure..
Hahahahaha the cruiser just smashing through the water!!! 😂🤣🤣
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that.. say goodbye to your cruiser by doing that.
@@nickcraggs1145 it could be fresh water but doing that in skat water is a stupid thing
Salt & heat & water = recipe for an FTL corrosion.
Never been 4x4 in my life I took my parents dmax on wagoe bea h just south of kalbarri yesterday and got bogged down to the axles with no help in sight. I followed all you're tips and got out in an hour. But I tell you the beer I had when I got back to camp had never tasted so good
Here in Argentina I've got a Chevrolet S-10 (Holden Colorado for aussie market) base model, and single traction. I put 10psi in each tyre and driving in second gear I can drive in soft sand. Of course, it's dangerous for the tyres and It isn't recomendable, but I'm poor and I love go to beach :D
10 psi very low. 16-18 should get you anywhere get yourself Staun tyre deflators
10 is fine as long as it's only sand
Cheers for the advice on tyre pressures. Great video mate. Loved the part where you had the three comparisons showing at the same time.
I should have watched your video two months ago. I hit the beach in NC USA with my super duty F350 pickup truck on 80 psi. Immediately I got stuck. I had to lower the pressure to 18 psi to get out of the soft and deep sand. 20 psi didn’t work. Thanks for the education!
Is that a tow rig also? What size tires do you have
Very good explanation and reason here.. thanks for posting this it took the mystery out of the differences between different levels of airing down and how much. Great vid !
Snow wheeling I run around 7 psi to get good traction. Every vehicle is different. The lighter the vehicle, the lower you can safely run. Tire size also comes into the equation.
Hi Great video clips.Thanks Dave South Africa
Thanks mate great practical example
once again brilliantly explained, cheers
Especially on soft rough surface sand.low pressure in your tyres allows your tyres to roll overlump mounds of sand etc.instead of forcing though the samd.think of it as eliminating the wedge in front of your tyre.
Do Aussies spell "tire" as "tyre?"
@@Eric-tq3vn Yep.
Really good generalisation of tyre pressures and driving on sand. Should be shown on loop to the 4WD'ers on Fraser I have been watching.
Very well explained to a beginner like me. thanks so much
Nice! As a wheelin' "noob" here in the (Southwest) States, I'm trying to get the proper gear together. I just bought a new 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 ("Zed Ah Too" for my Aussie Mates! LOL) and found airing down with a gage a TOTAL pain, airing up with my new compressor was easier. So, I bought the Staun deflators. And since I'm more an "overlanding" guy rather than a mudder or serious rock crawler, I've decided on 28 PSI so I can run at the higher speeds the ZR2 is also good at. Thanks for the vid, this stuff really helps us noobs!
Congratulations for the demontrations of tire pressures and it uses. Very didactic!
"didactic"
Thank you for that tutorial. I needed that well done tutorial.
Really helpful. Thank you! I have a 2013 KB300 LX 4x2 that I’m taking to the bush next week. Running same tyres as you. Keen to see how the rig performs on dirt/gravel.
6psi was perfect for my Coily Sierra at Blacksmiths 5 weeks ago.
8psi at Stockton 3 weeks later the zook was working harder to get though the soft stuff.
Just going to start at 6psi from now on on the sand...
Fantastic videos. Really appreciate them !
one thing you didn't mention that makes a huge difference is the elevation you're at. If you start at sea level and climb into mountions you will have a drastic difference. In the mojave i've started at 1100' and travelled to 7200' and had my preasure go from 12 up to 23psi. big difference
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! THANKZZ FOR SHARING!!!
Haha that voice crack at 0:55 got me😂😂😂 sheeit
Thank you for great explanation, very helpful ;)
i have a 90 series prado. and i only drop tyres
to 20 psi and i have never been bogged on the beach
Well the beaches you drive on must be hard, in WA you would be bogged in no time with 20psi.
IT DOESNT WEIGH ANYTHING.!!.try 4 people,full gear,trailer,,bit different..
Loved the video!
Great info and video, Thank you for sharing!
Fantastic. Thank you.
Amazing video very interesting thank you so much for the advice
I think there's more to it than just the length of the footprint. If it was then you'd only need a bigger tire and you wouldn't get stuck. It also has to do with tire shape. Hard tires will retain their circular profile and dig in but flat tires will conform and become flat on the bottom so they don't dig in.
Facts
You got it, I describe it low pressure the Tyre reshapes like a bulldozer track, high pressure the tyres become like bowling balls in the sand
that's what I thought as well. Being only 5 cm in difference I don't see much of an effect. But take that moulding conforming property and it GRIPS.
WOW
Other than the first sentence this is a great presentation.
Subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
Also good on steep hill climbs or when tires are down at 8/9 to turn the AC off. Its actually noticeable.
Of course you were gonna make the third try, you basically already packed the sand firm
Yeah, about that. It might be more interesting in a new path.
Facts
Question when you decrease tyre pressure on sandy soil, does it decrease ur ability to turn sharp turs
Hi there,
It shouldn't decrease your ability to turn.
Regards, Courtney
@@4wdsupacentreAu thx ima tell my dad bought this, in my country its sand like the beach with tree shrubs sometime. also what is the best psi for normal tar road?
Thanks mate good advice
3:33 lol
Good example.
Great video thx
I like 20 psi. It seems to get me where ever I’m going (4x4ing) especially all over a dry and soft Frasier Island and leaves room to go a lot lower.
Great clip too. That straight forward “hill climb” demo is ideal👍
Ive driven on Teewah at road pressures heaps of times never got bogged but then I avoid the chopped up soft stuff. Cant do it now as they have changed entry tracks.
I have a 3500 chevy silverado 2022. What do you recommend for driving sand and mud pressures?
What is the profile of these tyres? They look like 18s?
Great video. 👍🏽
I have a 4 x 4 Mercedes sprinter that weighs between 9000 and 10,000 pounds fully loaded. Recommended tire pressure is 46 psi front and 67 psi rear. Obviously, dropping both to 16 psi is probably not a good idea with a vehicle that heavy. What would you recommend for sand driving, should I drop the tires by approximately 50%, or, is there another rule of thumb when dealing with a heavy vehicle and different tire pressures between the front and rear?
Hi Jeff, Because you have a bigger car and more weight, It may be an idea to start around 22-24 PSI on beach then go from there. If you need to drop a little more, you may but I would say avoid going too low as you wouldn't want to run your tyre off the frame.
Cheers,
Saleha
@@4wdsupacentreAu Thanks for the reply. Just clarifying, you would recommend 22-24 psi even for the back tires which support more weight?
@@zachandtomdad Hi Jeff, for front tyres. Then initially a bit higher for back but I would recommend doing the test to see what exact number works for you before you drop too low. Cheers,
saleha
Mate did you just drive the same ruts? How would that be close to a true comparison?
you mean on the road we have to drive our tires with 28psi air pressure. But in the video with the sand, you have road air pressure 36psi which is correct?
Awesome vid
0:55 that voice crack 🤣
His voice lost psi
Excuse me Sir what is ait psi ?
*I drove trough mud with 36psi = Stuck*
*When i lower to 23psi = No Stuck*
*I see in 23 psi, my tires are so long deflated in the tarmac (longer footprint), but sacrifice some ride height.*
Hi i am running a 20INCH would the tyre pressure be the same ?
you drove through the same tracks ? And there are so many variables 16psi on my 18's ????????
Normally run 10 to 15 psi doesn't matter the terrain normally at 10psi if it's really rocky no bead locks
If I have 20 inch wheels, how low can I go in rock and gravel? Does it also depend if I have all terrain or all season tires?
Do your pressure numbers for various terrain apply to a truck with a 9400 pound gvwr like a Ford F250SD?
The heavier the load the more you need a rough estimate in my experience with same truck would be 15 psi minimum only if necessary for short distance at slow speeds. 20-30 for fairly rough trails with rocks depending on speed and how bad. Regular dirt,gravel roads at moderate speeds around 35 psi.
Great video, but did anyone else lose their mind when he just threw his tools on the sand!?
That's the difference between purchasing your own gear and having sponsors supply it!
I have high pressure tires 80 psi for road driving, is it safe to lower them to 16psi? I worry about damage and breaking the tire bead on the rim.
what did you drive? 80 psi is usually its maximum presure under full load, its not for empty driving..
i you gonna air down at fullload, just see the tire when you deflate it, 70% of its original height works fine to me
Dude, good video. Your tires are too low profile for a good tire. You want a large sidewall, that way it will be far more effective when you lower your pressure. I have 35's with 16 inch rims. A tire like that is far better for off roading than a 20" rim you see on a lot of mall cruisers. Try sand around 9 psi. 16 psi is still pretty high for loose sand. I think you'll like it. Cheers.
Highway I run 32 on all terrain tires .. off road 25 PSI
i have only ever gone down to 30 psi for the beach and never had any issues
Dune sand -- 5psi. Everything else 8psi. Up to 15 if I want to mix in some highway driving between trailheads and the trails are easy.
Have you ever inflated your tyres to raise the height of the vehicle to get out of trouble
i recommend 45 psi on roads if carrying heavy loads 70 psi
Smaller wheels equates to more sidewall.
Hard to pay attention watching the waves in the background that nobody is surfing….
What a place to be
I’m going to subscribe because the way you explain everything and showed us. Is what is humans need we are visual learners and that’s a mofo fact
Cheers legend! I definitely agree. Cheers Brenno
Glad thats not my tape measure 😂
When I drive down onto the beach I just leave my tyres on 30R/38F and send it 😂 mighty Triton hasn't failed me yet!
Seriously though I need a deflator 😂
Happy days throw another shrimp on the bbq
Hi Florrie!
Australia Day tomorrow!! Plenty of Barbies to be had!
Cheers,
Chad
Isuzu D max rules
🤣🤣🤣
Straight to 8psi on beach
🤙🤙🤙🤙
trailers,lower there tires as well,be idea..
Good for sand not for Rocky Mountains/ snow.
at 16 psi how fast/speed can I go
Just always go slow, only ever as fast as needed
strait,as fast as you want,NO BITUMEN,, ,turning,,really big circle,nothing sharp.3 ,4,5,point turn.it should be law,that any one with a recreational 4x4,camping fishing,ect,,& not a member of a registered club..SHOULD DO A 6 MONTH COURSE IN RECOVERY/4X4 DRIVING.
@@craki06 going slow will get you bogged.40,ks min..no sharp turns..
Lol, 16, 22,28...... How about just say 15,20 and 25.
Gold-I-locks zone
Got stuck today because my brother wouldn't listen to thuis advice 😐
So much for the 2000 rpm comparison on each run, same packed tracks and higher revs each time.. terrible demo, great idea, just not good execution this time. Sand ass tape measure..
Even small tools deserve good treatment. Don't throw measurement tools into the sand. ☹