"How can you tell if someone is an Arch Linux user? You don't have to, they are going to tell you" That line alone made me laugh so much, thanks for the content Mental Outlaw
@@shinobunarusaka3348 they usually don't "I use gentoo btw" unless its a former arch user or a very specific conditions, they usually being found in the wild too busy optimizing their USE flags 7 times a day and compiling their entire OS 3 times a day
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"Spacebar to select it, Enter to go back." The average Arch user's understanding of good UX.
Remember guys. Always set your root password as root so you can easily remember. Also make sure all ports are open. The more ports you have open the more security you have. Also os updates are optional and shouldn’t be used. They can introduce a whole new array of bugs. If this worked for you leave a comment with your public and MAC address. :D So I can make sure you did it the right way.
I installed Arch less than a week ago. Looked at the Wiki, barely understood any of it. Thankfully I had a buddy that knew way more about Linux and Arch than me so he was able to help me, and we got it knocked out in about 8 hours thanks to stuff happening like forgetting to get the stuff necessary to use ethernet. At about the 6 hour mark he told me about archinstall. Still pissed.
>"Ha, watch me circumvent this basic sanity check that I will be able to use my system of choice!" >"I'm avoiding DIY installation of the DIY distro! You mad that I put myself in this pickle?" >"Arch users will seethe when they see that I passed my vehicle inspection with faulty brakes!"
I remember installing Arch on an old laptop when I was a kid. I had used Slackware, Knoppix, Puppy Linux, and Ubuntu, so I figured it wouldn't be that big a deal. Learned quite a lot during that 6 hour process, then erased it and installed Backtrack to experiment with wifi cracking. Those were simpler days.
BT was a great tool when i was young, still use it on a usb from time to time for cracking windows passwords to gain admin power on windows machines and other other things. One of the few OS that will boot if the windows os isnt shut down properly.(might currupt HD, but it's rare.) Great tool!
I'm still amazed how someone (with charisma 100, presumably) managed to convince arch devs to include archinstall in the original distro, after 20 years of being proudly "that distro that is so hard to install you get bragging rights for doing it". Best thing that has happened to Arch, by the way, an excellent one, I use it myself, it has always been, even better now you don't need to pass the trial of patience to or to resort to third-party installers or forks in order to have a bleeding-edge distro with the richest package collection (if you include AUR) available.
horrible thing that has happened to arch. I've been using it for the past 6 years, and I've been stripped of ALL my bragging rights. It's a shame, really
Someone at my work once said something along the lines of "If you use Linux on a daily basis, and go more into the technical side, you most likely have the knowledge needed to be a Linux SysAdmin"
This is definitely untrue. An average linux user, including those who use 'advanced' distros such as Arch or Gentoo, likely won't configure enterprise hardware and networking equipment, nor will they ever have to deal with the deployment, monitoring, and maintenance of hundreds of servers. Daily driving linux does provide basic skills and understanding of the OS but scale is the issue here.
Quick edit: The archinstall on the ISO & the one he downloaded are 1 in the same. It is just an updated version, which comes preinstalled on the newest ISO anyways.
pacman -Syy seems to fuck up the keyring or something because it makes me unable to install any packages afterwards. not listening to him made the install simpler and cleaner, actually.
The archinstall in the repos is newer, just downloaded and installed yesterday and it didn't update the keyring like his did in the video. I had to go about manually updating the keyring because it wouldn't install anything via pacman and the moment archinstall tried to sync anything it'd crash. I'd imagine the next iso build will include the newer keyring fixer upper in the arch install.
This video made me brave enough to take the leap from Linux Mint. A friend smugly told me to run Arch if I really wanted a system I control myself… So I looked around and found this! Not really much harder to install Arch with KDE as desktop environment this way compared to installing MS-DOS or Windows 3.1 back in the day. And you, my sir, have a new subscriber.
Installing Arch in the traditional way can generate the experience called "flow", the process feels like playing a nice game in Normal difficulty, and I encourage every distro hopper to try it at least once in the entire life, the true meaning of Linux hides there. Archinstall just unlocks the Easy mode. But if you want to challenge the Nightmare difficulty, get an Nvidia graphic card.
I ploughed my way through the Arch install wiki and slowly built up a system that functioned and even built up a script to help me build a similar system again and again, and after all that work ... they go and bring out a script that does a brilliant job and blows all my effort into the weeds. Bugger. And Yay!?
This made me laugh so much. As someone that has used Linux for the better part of 25 years this video was a refreshing look at making pointlessly manual installs for Linux simple. I really appreciate this video and would recommend it. I will never understand the few that tend to be smug about using and installing Linux. It's never that serious. :) Linux should be for everyone willing to try it out and explore.
Denshi's comfy arch install guide is good for manual install practice/learning. Helped me anyways. And also for the laziest person it can be as simple as flashing the iso onto usb. Booting with secure boot disabled. Once youre into the session. Iwctl to turn on your wifi or unless youre ethernet connected. Once internet established. Literally type archinstall And it will walk you through. That was the very first part that mental outlaw showed in the vid. I don't use the second one he installed after that.
I was booted into an emergency shell once... That was pretty trippy. :O (4 month arch user, new to linux) got a grip on it now but i wasnt sure what happened hehe.
Ok, I gave into the curiosity and built an Arch box. I watched this video a couple months ago but wanted to do it the long way. What I like best about Arch now, is learning all this stuff, it took all weekend and a number of failed builds, but now it’s running like a champ. It gives you a connection to the machine because you put in that work to get it just how you want it, not how Canonical thinks you should like it. I wouldn’t call it hard, but to do it the long way, it forces you to actually think about what you are doing and learn a lot of how GNU/Linux works. There is no “best” distro, just the one that works best for you. I still say Ubuntu is a gateway drug to get you in the door and find more satisfying ways to compute.
I spent the last 2 nights trying to install arch without using the official guide and figuring problems out using google, I watched the old tutorial you had and then realized because I was using gpt and an uefi bios I needed to change a ton of things
I found it weird both DistroTube and Mental Outlaw covered the Arch Installer while it was a thing for a while. Then I looked at the improved version. It's so much better.
At first i hated arch cuz of its elitist community, but when i installed it it taught me a lot, i love the great custimization abilities, and i think that no distro comes even close in terms of the package number. U can find literaly anything u want in the normal + aur repo
@@overlord1995 You want to boot to straight tty and start into a GUI using just startx, while using KDE? Go for it you can do it on Arch (also on Debian too because it's just as based as Arch
If I only had known Arch wiki existed in my early years of programming then I think I would have become a better computer user or a better researcher , it's more complete than Wikipedia itself, You can find almost anything in it. Besides reading Arch Wiki can be frustrating at the beginning with all those links referencing to other pages but once you get used to it it would be just another simple website.
I am happy to see them working hard on the installer, but I still prefer my own script. The devs install -kde-meta- plasma-meta and you get a whole bunch of packages that you don't need and can't uninstall. I have my script set to install just what I want, and it even grabs YAY and Timeshift from the AUR.
@@marcopeterson805 Sorry I misspoke and should have said plasma-meta instead of kde-meta. Any package installed with plasma-meta is there for good. Look up the package and see for yourself. You can't remove any individual package from it without removing the whole thing. I prefer to install plasma-desktop and then add the packages I want on top of that.
Well, I guess I was wrong. I had installed plasma-meta before I did not like what I got with it. I removed it and installed plasma-desktop in its place. Maybe I should have stuck with plasma-meta.
Bro, you must be some kind of mind-reader. I was just planning to finally look into this over the weekend! I really want to use vanilla Arch, but I cannot for the life of me encrypt my hard disk properly or get Arch to locate the disk. I'm sure it's something stupid, but I've spent far too many hours diagnosing the issue with no success.
I recently installed Arch on my laptop, I ended up using the guided installer because doing it manually is way too human error prone, and half the time even if you do it completely correctly it just doesn't work for the sake of it. Dw just use the guided installer and ignore the ree-ing autists with way too much free time, it's great as an OS but the installing process is honestly artificial difficulty set by elitists with too much free time
@@itermercator114 The install process is not made difficult on purpose or anything (and in no way artificially so), it's just that not as much is being done for you. You have more control when installing and setting everything up manually which is the whole point of a minimalist distro.
@@tylerdean980 Yes, I did. I probably went through 4 different install guides, compared their steps, re-checked my configuration multiple times and could never figure it out.
@@itermercator114 I found the archinstaller only works if you zero the partition table of the disk as I think it tries to read the old partitions when it makes the new ones. Super dumb. You can do this with: dd of=/dev/sdX if=/dev/zero
ngl, I recently did my first actual arch install (as opposed to using endeavour or an installer), and honestly? it was pretty easy. the wiki is pretty clear, and it really didn't take that long for me to get it installed and mostly set up.
it's easy for someone who knows a lot about computer systems but not for the average joe, also it is very time consuming even if you are technically inclined like i am (i am a low level systems developer and work with linux all day.) i don't hate arch linux or think it is objectively bad by any means, it just isn't my cup of tea, it does not exist for the same reason that ubuntu, fedora or manjaro do, it's meant to be geeky and DIY, it's not for everyone, and that's fine, it doesn't have to be for everyone, some people like me just want a system that is easy and fast to install and use straight out of the box.
i remember my first arch install. i actually started off in a virtual machine so i could have at least some experience before i installed it on bare metal. less hard than it was nervewracking for me lol. hardest part for me was the wifi i believe. since then ive moved on to gentoo as my daily driver, but i am going to install arch on my old laptop again (currently runs fedora which is a bit bloated for its hardware), so its really nice having an easy installer, even if i dont technically need one haha
I installed arch myself about a month ago. I failed commands so many times, it was a real nightmare, I followed the tutorial exactly... so many commands just failed or gave errors that i had no clue how to fix. It was truly not easy, and i never wish to do it again.
Hi, Arch user here, I went through the tutorial when I was three years old and had zero issues. Basically flew through it. I think you just don't have the necessary skills to become an Arch user. Best regards, Arch Enthusiast.
All I'm gonna say is, if the base install was a nightmare, if someone ever suggests to you the idea of using ZFS for boot and root fs run for your fucking life my friend
That's awesome man. It might make me use Arch, as its installation process was kinda daunting to me, having no other device around to have the wiki open and available. Cheers
And here I followed the Wiki like a moron. Good to know this exist for another time. I mostly wanted an Arch build to try and actually learn something about Linux and OS operation. I also had a very underpowered tiny laptop that was struggling to just run Windows on its own so I wanted something super slim. Thanks for the video!
I installed Arch Linux and Parabola GNU/Linux-libre and the difference between both distros are the management of the repos and some other stuff. Another fact is the fact that the structure of Arch Linux is pretty average compared to Slackware is practically UNIX-esque. The hardest part is the maintenance of the UI, which the simplest to mantain is XFCE and LXQt, but GNOME and KDE are gigantic monsters to keep them functional.
I followed along and was able to install arch on my MacBook Pro. I was having issues connecting to Wi-Fi on EndeavourOS. No issues with Arch! Thanks for the video 😁
Gentoo users are so nice and helpful because they realize that installing it is weird and complicated so they help you instead of being smug and sarcastic
Manjaro has everything + things I don't need. Endeavouros has almost everything I need + little bloat. Vanilla Arch has almost nothing including not having bloat.
My first time,we all remember our first time, installing Arch was a little rough. I was an Ubuntu noob and couldnt get help from others online. I followed the install wiki and was confused through half of it. I made it,then the second time was a little easier but then about the 4th time Ive installed Arch,it wasnt too bad at all. I was much more experienced with Linux so I understood it much more,so I can see it is a little rough for a beginner. Thats why i always tell noobs to try others first,get to learn Linux a little more,then try it. I do like this though,this looks so much easier.
The steamdeck is based on arch. With steam/proton thats how linux gamers are playing currently. Not without hiccups. Prepare to watch lots of how to videos and stuff if you dont know how. But gaming on linux can be done. If you're into retro gaming? Retroarch works just fine. All emulators can be found for linux. Was playing dynasty warriors 5 empires today on rpcx2 ps2 emulator. I don't have a gpu for my thinkcenter yet but when i do im gonna play apex legends and doom eternal on it. XD I havent done it all yet. But I've already researched that it can be done. Also? I made the leap and removed windows from every pc in my home last month. Only Arch Linux. It took me about 2 months of study and videos and learning to know what I know now to know which packages to install. Keep a notebook and document everything that WORKS or you do correctly. For me; it's inspired me to learn all I can.
@@mathisblair2798 thing is I still can't use Linux to game because most mmos use a 3rd party anti cheat like xingecode. They have at least managed to get some games with easy anti cheat to work at least but I don't think that's the most aggressive version of anti cheat.
I think it's pretty neat (especially if you just want to try Arch with a DE), although I still prefer just doing it manually so that I have more control over it. I installed Arch with KDE too, but only the DE and *some* KDE-Applications, so that the startup and in general my drive isn't that bloated.
I really like Arch, and I've been using it for over a year now, until recently. I got an Nvidia GPU because I had a terrible experience with my previous AMD GPU, and couldn't get the drivers working, so I ditched Arch. It's a nice distro for me personally, and I probably wouldn't switch it just because of the fact that I'm all of too used to the AUR and Pacman, plus I already run it on my laptop and used to on my desktop. Sure there are much better options, but It's what I'm used to. If I do reinstalls, this seems like a method I'd rather do than RTFM and set it up that way
nvidia GPUs are famous for not working with linux. if your gonna use linux, stick to AMD cards or intel integrated graphics. they have open source mesa drivers that make them function properly, with nvidia you either use the proprietary drivers which dont work with wayland and have loads of issues, or the open source drivers which essentially brick the performacne of your GPU i know from experience as my main pc has a nvidia card (but i still proudly use arch i just cant use wayland unfortunately)
@@fantasypvp I just stopped using Linux entirely on my main desktop because of Nvidia. I had too many issues with Radeon, and ditched them ASAP. I know I could use a VM with a passed through GPU, but I don't have enough PCIe lanes for that, with my configuration, I am left with 4x for both GPUs which hurts performance on both OSes more than it helps.
@@froozenalex im pretty sure that some nvidia drivers do work with wayland. i think its only the open source ones that do though, and they arent officially supported by nvidia so the performance is crippled (im talking like a third of what it should be on a lot of things). i guess until the *new open source drivers that nvidia just released the other day* become more mainstream and get plenty of community input, we're gonna have to compromise either on performance or things actually working
I always wondered how the Arch installer looked, as I've gotten so used to installing it manually. Looks like a good easy way to get Arch installed. Won't be using it though. For me Arch is a nearly perfect distro. Though, each distro I tried has their own problem: >Arch feels like it's missing a lot of packages (the most important ones are there, but some of the niche ones aren't) >Debian feels too out of date (an advantage for some, but not for me) >Fedora is way too bloated (I install neofetch, it installs 60 packages)
most "niche" packages are in the AUR, but that doesn't really count, imo. i would prefer them to be in the main repositories. AUR is kind a last resort for me; it was very much not meant for ease of use, security or efficiency in mind.
@@KyleRassweiler You know what, I was going to provide examples (like workrave, tabby, envee, and caffeine), but I actually found them all in either the main repo or the AUR. Guess I spoke too soon on that one. Though, I will say that updating things in the AUR is a bit of a drag since most packages need to be recompiled.
Thanks for the great content, I actually found your channel searching for arch linux stuff. Was wondering, what is the name of the song? I hope you and your loved ones have a safe, happy, and healthy 2022.
What the elitists haven't mentioned yet is that it's not just USING Arch that makes you one of them; it's also going through the difficult manual process of installing it.
I love you. My mission is to try running Jellyfin on arch in docker, and I had told myself that I'd allocate this entire weekend to getting arch installed. Now it only took like...9 minutes and 35 seconds to do that!! I guess I can focus on getting docker to work, and also use a whole weekend to install arch the "official way" some weekend in the future. xp 🙏
I know it's unthinkable taboo in the Arch community to use Arch-based distros, but I HIGHLY recommend using Garuda Linux. The animations are smooooth, the UI and UX makes sense, and the system is very easy to update and maintain, even more than debian-based distros. Literally just takes "garuda-update" in the command line to update the entire system, including flatpaks and snaps (if you're an idiot who uses snap)
I do think Archinstall is a good thing, but I couldn't help but notice that `/root/install.txt` is no longer present on the ISO, and that's a shame because it's really great when you don't want to keep glancing back at the wiki for a manual installation.
Some changes: 1. pipewire > pulseaudio - a lot better, and fully compatible. Pulseaudio is also negative karma. 2. systemd-boot clears grub2. I hope this finds you well.
I basically just mined rocks, and fabricated silicon wafers from them, then i read some microprocessor book on lithography to etch all the miniature processor components, then i flew to Congo to get some cobalt for the batteries and tore the display off my brother's tv. I wrote the assembly code and the drivers to smoothly integrate everything, i hate downloading proprietary stuff. Then i compiled the whole Arch binary files, that's how i got Arch installed, anything else is unacceptable and for noobs.
Arch is definitely my next distro, I remember having such issues installing it when I was 15 and now 4 years later they have a wizard finally. I’m sure I could do it manually now but why give myself the headache? Looks like a nice clean OS too
@@stationflyer9512 😂 My friend I’m aware of that, I’m not sure where you thought I was confused on what an OS is. I do a manual install anyways since I dual boot.
@@stationflyer9512 also a desktop environment is part of an operating system when integrated since it applies the OS utilities to a gui, but I’m not sure getting into technicalities makes much sense.
I really dig the tutorials you have been doing alongside your other informational vids. The only thing I still haven‘t found out are what packages you recommend to run after the base install with a DE or WM, such as firewalls and whatnot, or if you think arch alone is secure enough on its own
Whatever you want. The benefits of a bare bones install is you can tailor it to your needs. If you're worried about security, just search for top Linux security recommendations.
Most malware targets either Windows or unpatched versions of Linux, so installing an up-to-date or just updating your distro should be fine for virus protection, but the firewall space is big for Linux so look at the options to see what you want
lmfao I'm installing using the scrip while following this video and it somehow managed to finish installing before it did in the video. I'm literally just waiting for arch to finish installing in the video while typing this. this is way faster then I expected albeit I only ever installed arch in the past manually.
@op. After getting the steam that, I remember how much I love Arch and think it is time for me to do a full install. As I search the internet I come across your video that basically saved me a day of research and bullshit. Thank you very much for this video I greatly appreciate it.
I remember In my young days finding linux and the flavor of arch, all the F'ups I did. I'm happy to see now we have full scripts and Gui arch installers. Btw I'm Arching.
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"How can you tell if someone is an Arch Linux user? You don't have to, they are going to tell you" That line alone made me laugh so much, thanks for the content Mental Outlaw
Never in my months of using Arch have I seen anything so offensive.
@@Wampa842 It is not offensive whatsoever. Is is, however, 100% accurate. (I use Arch BTW)
I think I might've already heard it before, but it made me laugh as well
Wait until u See the gentoo users
@@shinobunarusaka3348 they usually don't "I use gentoo btw" unless its a former arch user or a very specific conditions, they usually being found in the wild too busy optimizing their USE flags 7 times a day and compiling their entire OS 3 times a day
"Spacebar to select it, Enter to go back."
The average Arch user's understanding of good UX.
Wait until you see how "ESC to skip" works... lol
This is completely inaccurate.
We also need a way to quickly execute neofetch.
@@nickscurvy8635 scroll lock is for that
That's actually how old old command line worked though. Enter without input goes back one option
@@SignalRaptor_ carriage return used to move the writing position one line lower and to the left edge of the page
literally if you didn't invent physics that allow transitors to exist your taking the easy way out
@Someone Someone imagine not inventing your own logical axioms that you create physics with
I can't tell whether or not you're just another bought verified channel who goes around copy pasting other people's comments on videos.
Imagine not creating your own transistors by hand. My transistor is 2 inches cubed and it's glorious.
cd reality
doas makepkg i
doas reality --big-bang
@@ocsanik502 >having permission manger installed
bloat
6:05 didn´t expect a Alan Aztec song (Bass Bomber) in a Mental outlaw video.
Greetings from Germany
Personally I prefer Disco Panzer 🤷♂️
I just didn't expect hardbass in general
einfach ein jumpscare
Remember guys. Always set your root password as root so you can easily remember. Also make sure all ports are open. The more ports you have open the more security you have. Also os updates are optional and shouldn’t be used. They can introduce a whole new array of bugs. If this worked for you leave a comment with your public and MAC address. :D So I can make sure you did it the right way.
average debian user kek
Thank you for your advice.
Very helpful.
Glowpost
Also make sure you use the oldest version possible that will run on your hardware. It is the most stable and secure.
Absolutely
I installed Arch less than a week ago. Looked at the Wiki, barely understood any of it. Thankfully I had a buddy that knew way more about Linux and Arch than me so he was able to help me, and we got it knocked out in about 8 hours thanks to stuff happening like forgetting to get the stuff necessary to use ethernet. At about the 6 hour mark he told me about archinstall. Still pissed.
When you mentioned your buddy I thought this comment was some scam crypto bot but then I realized I'm in a different part of RUclips
so pointless installing linux when u dont have any idea about it. Just stick with windows
@@nurs3826 use operating systems for their usecase not for the sake of it
Arch has a garbage wiki, I can't believe this piece of trash still exists tbh
@@nurs3826 ah yes because if you don't know much about linux, obviously the best way to learn is to not even try to use it
Make Arch users seethe with this one simple trick!
@blastedbiggs YOU WON'T LAST 5 MINUTES INSTALLING THIS OS! ;p
I didn't know anime uncle Ted liked Linux.
@@inkbomb675 i dont think he does
Based Ted Kun-cynsky Chan
>"Ha, watch me circumvent this basic sanity check that I will be able to use my system of choice!"
>"I'm avoiding DIY installation of the DIY distro! You mad that I put myself in this pickle?"
>"Arch users will seethe when they see that I passed my vehicle inspection with faulty brakes!"
I remember installing Arch on an old laptop when I was a kid. I had used Slackware, Knoppix, Puppy Linux, and Ubuntu, so I figured it wouldn't be that big a deal. Learned quite a lot during that 6 hour process, then erased it and installed Backtrack to experiment with wifi cracking. Those were simpler days.
Ahhhhh backtrack lol 😂 still upset you can’t get the fake sms generator on kali (to my knowledge )
I have no experience in either Linux or anything else so, doubt
I’ll have any luck even if I did manage to install anything.
cracking wifi passwords, those were the days. I remember dual booting kali and blackarch, for "good hacking experience"
BT was a great tool when i was young, still use it on a usb from time to time for cracking windows passwords to gain admin power on windows machines and other other things.
One of the few OS that will boot if the windows os isnt shut down properly.(might currupt HD, but it's rare.)
Great tool!
"those were the days"? Sounds like you actually pay for your own wifi now.
The first rule of Arch Linux Fight Club, is to always talk about Arch Linux Fight Club.
If this is your first night at Arch Linux Fight Club, you HAVE to install.
@@mathisblair2798 🤣
I'm still amazed how someone (with charisma 100, presumably) managed to convince arch devs to include archinstall in the original distro, after 20 years of being proudly "that distro that is so hard to install you get bragging rights for doing it". Best thing that has happened to Arch, by the way, an excellent one, I use it myself, it has always been, even better now you don't need to pass the trial of patience to or to resort to third-party installers or forks in order to have a bleeding-edge distro with the richest package collection (if you include AUR) available.
horrible thing that has happened to arch. I've been using it for the past 6 years, and I've been stripped of ALL my bragging rights.
It's a shame, really
@@ishaqahmed._ time to pack up your bags and move to gentoo!
@@ishaqahmed._ cope
I thought that was Gentoo? Or is arch harder than Gentoo now?
@@brpadington arch is only harder because its wiki is a nightmare to navigate, gentoo is easier because its manual is pretty good.
Someone at my work once said something along the lines of "If you use Linux on a daily basis, and go more into the technical side, you most likely have the knowledge needed to be a Linux SysAdmin"
My friend said that too, I think it was to cheer me up about finding a job in the future. He is also arch user btw
False … you don’t need any tech skills to run Linux installs. The terminal is basically an option at this point
@@macktheripper7454 what about flashing the iso and going into the bios/uefi to set the boot order
This is definitely untrue. An average linux user, including those who use 'advanced' distros such as Arch or Gentoo, likely won't configure enterprise hardware and networking equipment, nor will they ever have to deal with the deployment, monitoring, and maintenance of hundreds of servers. Daily driving linux does provide basic skills and understanding of the OS but scale is the issue here.
@@mrbanana6464 What is scale but one more target on your sync commands ;p
Linux and hardbass go together like glove and hand haha! :D
Especially if the best hardbass producer follows mental outlaw
YOOOO IT'S THE MAN LETS TO
do you produce on linux? if so what DAW and how's the plugin support?
Товарищ ты и здесь
@@rotte5537 regretfully no. I do everything with FL Studio on Windows.
Quick edit: The archinstall on the ISO & the one he downloaded are 1 in the same.
It is just an updated version, which comes preinstalled on the newest ISO anyways.
One and the same
@@sepg5084 great audioslave song
And if he had read the wiki, he would have known not to do partial updates.
pacman -Syy seems to fuck up the keyring or something because it makes me unable to install any packages afterwards. not listening to him made the install simpler and cleaner, actually.
The archinstall in the repos is newer, just downloaded and installed yesterday and it didn't update the keyring like his did in the video. I had to go about manually updating the keyring because it wouldn't install anything via pacman and the moment archinstall tried to sync anything it'd crash.
I'd imagine the next iso build will include the newer keyring fixer upper in the arch install.
I did not expect Alan Aztek but it is truely glorious, to see the music paired with linux! ❤
I was surprised to hear the German music during the installation timelapse
And German hardbass on top of that!
@@herrcrazi7495 nächstes mal soll er einfsch baller los rein machen passt besser xd
This video made me brave enough to take the leap from Linux Mint. A friend smugly told me to run Arch if I really wanted a system I control myself… So I looked around and found this! Not really much harder to install Arch with KDE as desktop environment this way compared to installing MS-DOS or Windows 3.1 back in the day.
And you, my sir, have a new subscriber.
What did you control more in arch rather than in mint?
Neofetch looks cooler @@Azertyyys
@@Azertyyys Nothing. He just wanted to pat himself on the back
@@cornbreadpelicanundertake as expected haha
Came for Arch, stayed for the music
Agreed. DO you know what it's called?
Bass Bomber by Alan Aztec
same
I’m over here fist pumping. That’s a juicy Sukha blat classic.
Plus the DJ was ripped. ;)
Installing Arch in the traditional way can generate the experience called "flow", the process feels like playing a nice game in Normal difficulty, and I encourage every distro hopper to try it at least once in the entire life, the true meaning of Linux hides there. Archinstall just unlocks the Easy mode. But if you want to challenge the Nightmare difficulty, get an Nvidia graphic card.
Or a touchscreen
Nvidia 😂
I ploughed my way through the Arch install wiki and slowly built up a system that functioned and even built up a script to help me build a similar system again and again, and after all that work ... they go and bring out a script that does a brilliant job and blows all my effort into the weeds. Bugger.
And Yay!?
EXACTLY
My first thought after I saw the arch installer was "brilliant, all the time i spent memorizing the arch install wiki was a waste"
a certified bruh moment
@@ishaqahmed._ it's so sad that people can actually install the damn thing
@@theblasphemousgamer4888 too much time on our hands. Well i also happen to have debloated friends list ;)
This made me laugh so much. As someone that has used Linux for the better part of 25 years this video was a refreshing look at making pointlessly manual installs for Linux simple. I really appreciate this video and would recommend it. I will never understand the few that tend to be smug about using and installing Linux. It's never that serious. :) Linux should be for everyone willing to try it out and explore.
Archlinux is actually a lot of fun, i love the locale keyboard layout and support of German in console environment
It put the fun back into Linux for me.
@@lpcamargo gentoo put the fun into linux for me!
@Kurtis finnaly your dad is here sikeeee
7:05 is the most replayed part lmfaooo
hmm i wonder why? (/jk)
why though?
I sure wonder why man
Trying Arch is quite tempting now with how easy it looks with this tool. Also a plus with the amount of control you have over it
Denshi's comfy arch install guide is good for manual install practice/learning. Helped me anyways.
And also for the laziest person it can be as simple as flashing the iso onto usb. Booting with secure boot disabled. Once youre into the session.
Iwctl to turn on your wifi or unless youre ethernet connected. Once internet established.
Literally type archinstall
And it will walk you through. That was the very first part that mental outlaw showed in the vid. I don't use the second one he installed after that.
5:40 best timelapse music ever
fun fact: its german
I'm not gonna lie, this actually makes me want to use Arch
its definitely worth a shot! try installing it in a virtual machine and playing around with it until you decide whether it suits you or not.
Traps?
there is no going back
@@theevilapple_so true. I try to use Ubuntu and it's forks.. always end up back on an arch based distro...
check for autism. I mean it. at first I also thought that someone is being rude to me in the internet.
I got to learn how to install Arch Linux and got to participate in a rave all in one video, this truly is the best channel on RUclips
If/when you break your arch install just remember arch-chroot is there to the rescue.
I was booted into an emergency shell once... That was pretty trippy. :O (4 month arch user, new to linux) got a grip on it now but i wasnt sure what happened hehe.
Ok, I gave into the curiosity and built an Arch box. I watched this video a couple months ago but wanted to do it the long way. What I like best about Arch now, is learning all this stuff, it took all weekend and a number of failed builds, but now it’s running like a champ. It gives you a connection to the machine because you put in that work to get it just how you want it, not how Canonical thinks you should like it.
I wouldn’t call it hard, but to do it the long way, it forces you to actually think about what you are doing and learn a lot of how GNU/Linux works. There is no “best” distro, just the one that works best for you.
I still say Ubuntu is a gateway drug to get you in the door and find more satisfying ways to compute.
I spent the last 2 nights trying to install arch without using the official guide and figuring problems out using google, I watched the old tutorial you had and then realized because I was using gpt and an uefi bios I needed to change a ton of things
I found it weird both DistroTube and Mental Outlaw covered the Arch Installer while it was a thing for a while. Then I looked at the improved version. It's so much better.
At first i hated arch cuz of its elitist community, but when i installed it it taught me a lot, i love the great custimization abilities, and i think that no distro comes even close in terms of the package number. U can find literaly anything u want in the normal + aur repo
ive ran into many more elitists on stackoverflow than in any linux related community
@@愛I can visualize that
Give us an example of this "anything you want". People always say this shit and never have an example.
@@overlord1995 You want to boot to straight tty and start into a GUI using just startx, while using KDE? Go for it you can do it on Arch (also on Debian too because it's just as based as Arch
If I only had known Arch wiki existed in my early years of programming then I think I would have become a better computer user or a better researcher , it's more complete than Wikipedia itself, You can find almost anything in it.
Besides reading Arch Wiki can be frustrating at the beginning with all those links referencing to other pages but once you get used to it it would be just another simple website.
As a german the hardbass took me of guard. LOL
Alan Aztec is a good man who doesn't use copyright cringe (or at least lets me use his music)
@@MentalOutlaw hey, you can use mine as well if you want
Alan Aztec just makes amazing music, but i would NOT have expected this from you.
I am happy to see them working hard on the installer, but I still prefer my own script. The devs install -kde-meta- plasma-meta and you get a whole bunch of packages that you don't need and can't uninstall. I have my script set to install just what I want, and it even grabs YAY and Timeshift from the AUR.
Wdym "can't" uninstall? Form my experience, *all* packages can be uninstalled, even the god damn bootloader.
@@marcopeterson805 Sorry I misspoke and should have said plasma-meta instead of kde-meta. Any package installed with plasma-meta is there for good. Look up the package and see for yourself. You can't remove any individual package from it without removing the whole thing.
I prefer to install plasma-desktop and then add the packages I want on top of that.
@@act.13.41 you can remove plasma-meta just fine, as long as you don't remove dependencies for it
@@NotttC I am not saying you can't remove plasma-meta. I am saying you can't remove any of the packages inside it.
Well, I guess I was wrong. I had installed plasma-meta before I did not like what I got with it. I removed it and installed plasma-desktop in its place. Maybe I should have stuck with plasma-meta.
If I ever switch to arch I will run that song in the background while it installs, this was a banging tutorial!
NOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN USE A INSTALL SCIPTARANO THATS UNSUPPORTED!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE
I used your old tutorial from 2 years ago yesterday to install Arch Linux on my spare SSD, funny this is posted the next day
5:55 perfect music sync with the tty spamming a lot XD
that music during install is an interesting choice, as a german watching mostly english videos its rare hearing THAT kind of music in a video.
Bro, you must be some kind of mind-reader. I was just planning to finally look into this over the weekend! I really want to use vanilla Arch, but I cannot for the life of me encrypt my hard disk properly or get Arch to locate the disk. I'm sure it's something stupid, but I've spent far too many hours diagnosing the issue with no success.
I recently installed Arch on my laptop, I ended up using the guided installer because doing it manually is way too human error prone, and half the time even if you do it completely correctly it just doesn't work for the sake of it. Dw just use the guided installer and ignore the ree-ing autists with way too much free time, it's great as an OS but the installing process is honestly artificial difficulty set by elitists with too much free time
@@itermercator114 The install process is not made difficult on purpose or anything (and in no way artificially so), it's just that not as much is being done for you. You have more control when installing and setting everything up manually which is the whole point of a minimalist distro.
Did you change the grub.cfg and put the encrypt hook in your initcipio? Linux Made Simple I think is the name has really good arch install videos
@@tylerdean980 Yes, I did. I probably went through 4 different install guides, compared their steps, re-checked my configuration multiple times and could never figure it out.
@@itermercator114 I found the archinstaller only works if you zero the partition table of the disk as I think it tries to read the old partitions when it makes the new ones. Super dumb.
You can do this with: dd of=/dev/sdX if=/dev/zero
Other than being caught off guard by the song (am German though): Nice hardware! (And good content as always.)
ngl, I recently did my first actual arch install (as opposed to using endeavour or an installer), and honestly? it was pretty easy. the wiki is pretty clear, and it really didn't take that long for me to get it installed and mostly set up.
it's easy for someone who knows a lot about computer systems but not for the average joe, also it is very time consuming even if you are technically inclined like i am (i am a low level systems developer and work with linux all day.)
i don't hate arch linux or think it is objectively bad by any means, it just isn't my cup of tea, it does not exist for the same reason that ubuntu, fedora or manjaro do, it's meant to be geeky and DIY, it's not for everyone, and that's fine, it doesn't have to be for everyone, some people like me just want a system that is easy and fast to install and use straight out of the box.
You know the guide is well made if someone made an installer that just follows the guide and works flawlessly.
even if installed arch by hand before, I prefer installing by archinstall because it does almost the same install, but a lot faster
I think the only thing that I always have trouble with is getting my internet connection to work right, but everything else is smooth sailing
i remember my first arch install. i actually started off in a virtual machine so i could have at least some experience before i installed it on bare metal. less hard than it was nervewracking for me lol. hardest part for me was the wifi i believe.
since then ive moved on to gentoo as my daily driver, but i am going to install arch on my old laptop again (currently runs fedora which is a bit bloated for its hardware), so its really nice having an easy installer, even if i dont technically need one haha
Whoever took the time to write out what Kawaii-sys-admin wrote, I have the utmost respect for ou
I installed arch myself about a month ago. I failed commands so many times, it was a real nightmare, I followed the tutorial exactly... so many commands just failed or gave errors that i had no clue how to fix. It was truly not easy, and i never wish to do it again.
Don’t break your install then
Hi, Arch user here, I went through the tutorial when I was three years old and had zero issues. Basically flew through it. I think you just don't have the necessary skills to become an Arch user.
Best regards,
Arch Enthusiast.
All I'm gonna say is, if the base install was a nightmare, if someone ever suggests to you the idea of using ZFS for boot and root fs run for your fucking life my friend
@@tylerdean980 or use Timeshift?
@@tylerdean980 this a good way to push away people from Linux, and keep its install base low forever. That's the goal, right?
I just took a huge step to free myself from the shackles of windows. Thanks for the help!
Now that Arch installer scripts are commonplace, the new elitist remark is going to be "I installed Arch... The manual way."
Everyone should atleast once. Because it's a bonding experience with your OS.
That's awesome man. It might make me use Arch, as its installation process was kinda daunting to me, having no other device around to have the wiki open and available. Cheers
díky!! teď jsi mi ulehčil život a zachránil moje nervy :)
Diese wunderschöne deutsche Musik, die da in meinen Ohren ertönt.
Das erquickt mein Herz, so wie den Like Button :D
Thanks mental outlaw I've been trying to say I use arch btw for months now
And here I followed the Wiki like a moron. Good to know this exist for another time. I mostly wanted an Arch build to try and actually learn something about Linux and OS operation. I also had a very underpowered tiny laptop that was struggling to just run Windows on its own so I wanted something super slim.
Thanks for the video!
I installed Arch Linux and Parabola GNU/Linux-libre and the difference between both distros are the management of the repos and some other stuff.
Another fact is the fact that the structure of Arch Linux is pretty average compared to Slackware is practically UNIX-esque.
The hardest part is the maintenance of the UI, which the simplest to mantain is XFCE and LXQt, but GNOME and KDE are gigantic monsters to keep them functional.
That intallation montage that goes with the crazy music 🤩🤩🤩
came for the archinstall guide, stayed for the hardbass
I followed along and was able to install arch on my MacBook Pro. I was having issues connecting to Wi-Fi on EndeavourOS. No issues with Arch! Thanks for the video 😁
Gentoo users are so nice and helpful because they realize that installing it is weird and complicated so they help you instead of being smug and sarcastic
Yeah that's true. I personally got tell that by just reading messages on their discord sever lol
Untill u look a the General chat in their discord
I remember when a arch Linux user sent me to the wiki for something it wasn't there ahh good times
Playing hardbass music while installation is really a killer feature for archinstall
Manjaro has everything + things I don't need.
Endeavouros has almost everything I need + little bloat.
Vanilla Arch has almost nothing including not having bloat.
My first time,we all remember our first time, installing Arch was a little rough. I was an Ubuntu noob and couldnt get help from others online. I followed the install wiki and was confused through half of it. I made it,then the second time was a little easier but then about the 4th time Ive installed Arch,it wasnt too bad at all. I was much more experienced with Linux so I understood it much more,so I can see it is a little rough for a beginner. Thats why i always tell noobs to try others first,get to learn Linux a little more,then try it. I do like this though,this looks so much easier.
cant wait to do this for a dualboot. kinda been interested in making linux my main and windows as just for gaming.
The steamdeck is based on arch. With steam/proton thats how linux gamers are playing currently. Not without hiccups. Prepare to watch lots of how to videos and stuff if you dont know how. But gaming on linux can be done. If you're into retro gaming? Retroarch works just fine. All emulators can be found for linux. Was playing dynasty warriors 5 empires today on rpcx2 ps2 emulator. I don't have a gpu for my thinkcenter yet but when i do im gonna play apex legends and doom eternal on it. XD I havent done it all yet. But I've already researched that it can be done.
Also? I made the leap and removed windows from every pc in my home last month. Only Arch Linux. It took me about 2 months of study and videos and learning to know what I know now to know which packages to install.
Keep a notebook and document everything that WORKS or you do correctly.
For me; it's inspired me to learn all I can.
@@mathisblair2798 thing is I still can't use Linux to game because most mmos use a 3rd party anti cheat like xingecode. They have at least managed to get some games with easy anti cheat to work at least but I don't think that's the most aggressive version of anti cheat.
I think it's pretty neat (especially if you just want to try Arch with a DE), although I still prefer just doing it manually so that I have more control over it. I installed Arch with KDE too, but only the DE and *some* KDE-Applications, so that the startup and in general my drive isn't that bloated.
I really like Arch, and I've been using it for over a year now, until recently. I got an Nvidia GPU because I had a terrible experience with my previous AMD GPU, and couldn't get the drivers working, so I ditched Arch. It's a nice distro for me personally, and I probably wouldn't switch it just because of the fact that I'm all of too used to the AUR and Pacman, plus I already run it on my laptop and used to on my desktop. Sure there are much better options, but It's what I'm used to. If I do reinstalls, this seems like a method I'd rather do than RTFM and set it up that way
For me switching to Arch fixed GPU issues with my old AMD laptop kekw
nvidia GPUs are famous for not working with linux. if your gonna use linux, stick to AMD cards or intel integrated graphics. they have open source mesa drivers that make them function properly, with nvidia you either use the proprietary drivers which dont work with wayland and have loads of issues, or the open source drivers which essentially brick the performacne of your GPU i know from experience as my main pc has a nvidia card (but i still proudly use arch i just cant use wayland unfortunately)
Yeah I keep trying to make kde Wayland work with my Nvidia card. It doesn't really work well. Idk who says Wayland works fine on Nvidia cards
@@fantasypvp I just stopped using Linux entirely on my main desktop because of Nvidia. I had too many issues with Radeon, and ditched them ASAP. I know I could use a VM with a passed through GPU, but I don't have enough PCIe lanes for that, with my configuration, I am left with 4x for both GPUs which hurts performance on both OSes more than it helps.
@@froozenalex im pretty sure that some nvidia drivers do work with wayland. i think its only the open source ones that do though, and they arent officially supported by nvidia so the performance is crippled (im talking like a third of what it should be on a lot of things).
i guess until the *new open source drivers that nvidia just released the other day* become more mainstream and get plenty of community input, we're gonna have to compromise either on performance or things actually working
I literally do not understand any of the shit you post involving tech stuff like this, but I freaking love your thumbnails
I always wondered how the Arch installer looked, as I've gotten so used to installing it manually. Looks like a good easy way to get Arch installed. Won't be using it though.
For me Arch is a nearly perfect distro. Though, each distro I tried has their own problem:
>Arch feels like it's missing a lot of packages (the most important ones are there, but some of the niche ones aren't)
>Debian feels too out of date (an advantage for some, but not for me)
>Fedora is way too bloated (I install neofetch, it installs 60 packages)
Which niche packages you feel are missing?
most of those niche packages are on the AUR
most "niche" packages are in the AUR, but that doesn't really count, imo. i would prefer them to be in the main repositories. AUR is kind a last resort for me; it was very much not meant for ease of use, security or efficiency in mind.
@@KyleRassweiler
You know what, I was going to provide examples (like workrave, tabby, envee, and caffeine), but I actually found them all in either the main repo or the AUR.
Guess I spoke too soon on that one. Though, I will say that updating things in the AUR is a bit of a drag since most packages need to be recompiled.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 the chaotic aur may help with that :)
it's a really well documented installation guide just read it 😭 it took me like 8 minutes after reinstalling arch so much
I use Arch by the way!! 😂 Thanks for the video.
Hey Josh! I saw you on freecodecamp, congrats on the collab with them.
Thanks bro! They totally surprised me with that.
Just installed arch thanks to you, been trying since a while.
The german music hit different
thanks for the great guide for installing arch
+1 respect for the bass bomber bit
Thanks for the great content, I actually found your channel searching for arch linux stuff. Was wondering, what is the name of the song? I hope you and your loved ones have a safe, happy, and healthy 2022.
Alan Aztec - Bass Bomber
@@MentalOutlaw Thank you kindly for answering me. Once again, I hope you and your loved ones stay safe, happy, and healthy. Now, and in the future.
What the elitists haven't mentioned yet is that it's not just USING Arch that makes you one of them; it's also going through the difficult manual process of installing it.
your video editing in this video is a lot better than your usual editing. did you change software?
nope, still using kdenlive
So I just need to change software to automatically become a better editor?
it's called experience the more you have the better you are at doing something
@@giorgosterzakis3286 If you're using bad software, sure.
I love you. My mission is to try running Jellyfin on arch in docker, and I had told myself that I'd allocate this entire weekend to getting arch installed. Now it only took like...9 minutes and 35 seconds to do that!! I guess I can focus on getting docker to work, and also use a whole weekend to install arch the "official way" some weekend in the future. xp 🙏
I know it's unthinkable taboo in the Arch community to use Arch-based distros, but I HIGHLY recommend using Garuda Linux. The animations are smooooth, the UI and UX makes sense, and the system is very easy to update and maintain, even more than debian-based distros. Literally just takes "garuda-update" in the command line to update the entire system, including flatpaks and snaps (if you're an idiot who uses snap)
using garuda dr460 rn and i love it, boutta switch to arch tho so wish me luck!
best part of Arch is the musical loading screens - this should become as standard as progress indicators
You used an old .iso. The version of archinstall that you installed, 2.4.2-1, comes with the 05-01-2022 Arch .iso.
I’ve had this video saved for a year lol. I stopped being lazy and tried this on a VM finally… thank you for sharing
The thumbnail game is better than ever
Didn't expect Hard Bass with german lyrics during the install
I do think Archinstall is a good thing, but I couldn't help but notice that `/root/install.txt` is no longer present on the ISO, and that's a shame because it's really great when you don't want to keep glancing back at the wiki for a manual installation.
Some changes:
1. pipewire > pulseaudio - a lot better, and fully compatible. Pulseaudio is also negative karma.
2. systemd-boot clears grub2.
I hope this finds you well.
Awesome. Arch wiki makes me cry sometimes with how useful it is
"bleeding edge debian with a different package manager"
YES .... YES!!! ... THAT IS IT.... what a great observation. i use debian sid btw
Smug Linux supremes are gonna keep Linux in the friend zone for a lot of software devs
They want it that way though, so that they can keep being smug for whatever reason
This video was way more fun than I expected XD
I basically just mined rocks, and fabricated silicon wafers from them, then i read some microprocessor book on lithography to etch all the miniature processor components, then i flew to Congo to get some cobalt for the batteries and tore the display off my brother's tv. I wrote the assembly code and the drivers to smoothly integrate everything, i hate downloading proprietary stuff. Then i compiled the whole Arch binary files, that's how i got Arch installed, anything else is unacceptable and for noobs.
hahah the German techno track killed me!, as a native German speaker that was more than just unexpected
Arch is definitely my next distro, I remember having such issues installing it when I was 15 and now 4 years later they have a wizard finally. I’m sure I could do it manually now but why give myself the headache? Looks like a nice clean OS too
the last bit of the video where its graphical isnt the os, its the desktop enviroment and there is hundreds of them for every single liking
@@stationflyer9512 😂 My friend I’m aware of that, I’m not sure where you thought I was confused on what an OS is. I do a manual install anyways since I dual boot.
@@stationflyer9512 also a desktop environment is part of an operating system when integrated since it applies the OS utilities to a gui, but I’m not sure getting into technicalities makes much sense.
Archinstall has made installing Arch easy for me. Was always intimidated by the wiki. One of these days, I will bend it to my will.
I really dig the tutorials you have been doing alongside your other informational vids. The only thing I still haven‘t found out are what packages you recommend to run after the base install with a DE or WM, such as firewalls and whatnot, or if you think arch alone is secure enough on its own
Whatever you want. The benefits of a bare bones install is you can tailor it to your needs. If you're worried about security, just search for top Linux security recommendations.
Most malware targets either Windows or unpatched versions of Linux, so installing an up-to-date or just updating your distro should be fine for virus protection, but the firewall space is big for Linux so look at the options to see what you want
5:30 i was surprised bass bomber came on. I like it
0:22
I read the whole thing... I need time to process it...
And btw I use arch Linux
(I read the whole thing too lmao)
" It's basically bleeding edge Debian with a different package manager IMO." XD Subbed for gems like this.
Your cute anime girl folder is enviable
lmfao I'm installing using the scrip while following this video and it somehow managed to finish installing before it did in the video. I'm literally just waiting for arch to finish installing in the video while typing this. this is way faster then I expected albeit I only ever installed arch in the past manually.
just waiting for Gentooinstall
lfsinstall when
@op. After getting the steam that, I remember how much I love Arch and think it is time for me to do a full install. As I search the internet I come across your video that basically saved me a day of research and bullshit. Thank you very much for this video I greatly appreciate it.
Once you understand few terms and processes, installing arch isn't hard, it's just lengthy.
I remember In my young days finding linux and the flavor of arch, all the F'ups I did.
I'm happy to see now we have full scripts and Gui arch installers.
Btw I'm Arching.