@@alenv808 lol bro its probably the main thing that got me interested in linux.. i was about to buy a whole new computer becasue i just thought it was dying it was soo slow... and then saw unixporn... installed linux over the top of windows just to try it out and it was like my computer was brand new again. blazing fast
@@alenv808 There's a distro called Archcraft which offers quite a few "preconfigured" tiling window manager options, although you have to pay a fee to get the ISOs with the "premium" preconfigured tiling window managers. I haven't tested those "premium" options. On the free version though, there are openbox and bspwm configurations available. You could try them without installing, just to see how it is. Openbox is regular floating windows, bspwm is a tiling wm.
@@alenv808 I don't think you would like it at all, it's very inconvenient and you should only use it if you want to suffer for youtube views. You sometimes have to wait HOURS to compile your packages instead of just installing the compiled binaries like you do in arch
@@alenv808 Gentoo is...interesting. I'd say its the most complex linux distro that actually has a userbase. Source based distro, you compile the kernel yourself, very interesting.
Thank you very much for your feedback, much appreciated! About using the terminal....I have an urge to force myself to use neovim for at least a week 🫣
was about to post this as well! proton is pretty much a godsend and valve is very determined to make gaming on linux better. valve has also set up a bit of a collab with arch linux recently, so things are looking really promising right now
Good video. Only two things: don't forget proton for windows games compatibilty and as an arch user of many years i should say that rarely i had the need to solve a problem in a hard way. Is often simple than other distribution.
Thank you for your feedback 🤗 Yeah I do believe issues aren't that hard to solve, it just needs time to figure out what the problem is and then how to solve it. I had couple of issues, for example my audio drivers were failing so when I want to watch youtube videos, the video just sits there buffering. But I solved it and for now everything works perfectly.
about the yay and pacman, here is the difference: with pacman, you can install software from the official repositories, which is what we call the app store of linux. there are repositories for each linux distro, bud arch's official ones are quite small yay basically solves this problem, because yay can not only use the official repositories, but also the community one, which we call the AUR (Arch User Repository). in sumary, yay does exactly what pacman does but with more software
@@see-sharp ye, somewhere on wiki it is not recommended to use. how about Aura package manager? People are used to yay and paru and I haven't seen anyone talk about it.
@nicolasdesenvolvedor1642 Thank you very much for explanation. It does make sense. @see-sharp that's what I've read. I guess I gotta be a bit careful of packages I install.
its pretty neat to see someone, who like me, just went full send into linux recently. but instead you went right for arch! one thing you learn pretty quick is that, people were REALLY determined to make the switch seem much more brutal than it actually is. but yeah, there's plenty of guides out there that make the process incredibly easy. just update, pick the stable gpu driver, reboot, customize and make your desktop background pretty and done. most of your beginner time will be peeking around and learning the basic terminal commands. unless you're a mint user, then you don't actually use the terminal unless mint itself has a major version update. and usually there's a few video guides already out on how to do the update, which honestly again due to mints hand holding you probably only need to do it once to learn how it goes. (worst part is actually if you play very large games on steam, then most of that time is re-downloading 500gb games for 2 days and eating up all of your data for the month...)
@@alenv808using linux for 3 years now, installed gentoo. the performanc increace is noticeable, but takes along time to isntall (because of compiling) so i could only recomend if u have other things to do meanwhile. gentoo actually forces u to get out of your computer, or u would be just wasting time waiting
gentoo isnt hard. its easier than arch. gentoo is BOTHERSOME. the time you wait to compile takes so long hardest would go to nixos since *its a whole coding language you have to learn*
@@ios7jbpro ye, everything is well documented and gentoo has better tools to manage packagaes and pssible issue u may find. but imo ots only worth it if you have other things to do. I personaly uodate my system while on the gym and plan all my stuff before turning on my computer, and i think helps me take full advantage of the OS. So i think it is hard if u consider time management
You saw how much traffic this video got you (although hardcore Arch fans might be a little frustrated you didn't do a manual setup), perhaps one way to move forward with your other series would be to continue with things like this! It certainly caught my attention, and with enough content you just might be able to earn subscribers, along with a stable income, in to time! Not to mention everyone who might be interested in your apps! (P. S. if you'd like additional tips for Arch I'm more than welcome to assist you as I am able XD) (P. P. S. Lutris is my go-to program for running Windows programs in Arch)
Yeah this video is still going crazy! And I'll definitely record a video where I try installing arch without arch-install script. I do plan to continue with videos like these, but I also plan to do some videos that are not Linux related, maybe more towards coding and frontend development. Not sure if uploading different topics will have a bad hit on channel. I guess there's only one way to find out. Would love to get any sort of income, it is dry since April haha. Priority is getting a job of course, but the market is crazy at the moment. So I build apps on the side and hoping for the best. I plan on creating a discord community, that seems like a good idea. Until then we can talk on instagram if I get stuck somewhere on my Arch journey haha @alenvarazdinac Thank you for your feedback! 🤗
that's very good, you are contributing to a world of more linux users. The more people use free open-source software, the more people will develop FOS applications.
One thing ive noticed about arch linux: sure it can take some time to set up some things but then they are set up and you know how to do them next time. When I'm finished setting up the baseline I can basically do anything. Also It's then easier to use and troubleshoot other distros
If you are going to have Steam installed anyways you might want to try adding the image editing program as a "Non-Steam Game", and enable Proton for it.
That is actually a genius move! I will try that with the next app that gives me trouble. I actually made affinity work in the end with bottles. Works well at the moment.
@@alenv808 How did you get affinity working in bottles? Does it work better in steam proton vs bottles? Also, is it the latest version or an older version of Affinity?
Thank you a lot! Gimp will be my choice probably if I don't manage to make Affinity work. But I would really love to use Affinity since I paid for it at the end of the day haha
as a person who has been using arch for quite some time i love it as a programmer linux is a no brainer i use arch becouse of the aur (arch user reposotory) its not all smooth for me tho i am still having weird wifi isues :) nice video
I had wifi issues but resolved it. The issue was wifi wasnt connecting automatically to known wifis and I always had to manually connect by typing the password again and again. AUR is great, but I don't understand why some people say I should avoid it if I want stability 🤷♂️ Thank you for your comment, much appreciated 🔥
I just use Fedora + KDE plasma these days. Perfect combo of stable rolling release and great customization. I can tinker a lot but also have a fully working environment when I need it.
@@alenv808 maybe you can just selectively withold updates for a week or so to see if it causes any problems but in general. Unless you use the AUR a lot and thinker around like crazy, I think it should be pretty stable. These days everything is a flatpak so it should just work haha. Also maybe you can get a cheap used laptop/chromebook to tinker with on Arch so your main computer stays on a boring/stable distro for actual work? haha
It does seem to be pretty stable for now haha not a single issue at the moment. Only some cosmetics which I have to fix. I do have pc which is still on windows, but it doesn't work the best. So I am playing around on this laptop to see what should I install on the pc.
Pacman is the built in package manager with arch. Arch has the AUR, arch user repository where users can post their own stuff, however, it's not checked by mods and is usually checked by random users so it's much less safe. if a package if liked enough by users it can actually land in the official repo of arch, pacman. Yay is an aur installer which just makes installing from there easier.
@@alenv808 i think that in general. linux is actually just objectively superior to windows. the only issue that made me in the end just make my windows more secure with a debloat tool was the fact that my primary uses for my pc are ones that are only on windows. (hoyoverse games and valorant) if those were on linux or if i had more drive space. i would definitely stay on it. so i think in the end it is worth the switch as long as you got the space or are okay with sacrificing certain things.
Understandable. I think the best way for me would be to go with dual boot, wsl or hyper-v vm. So I can use linux for coding and for everything else I'd use windows. Maybe you can use linux in one of those ways too, if that's an option.
BTW, I do not know how much Photoshop power you need. If you really need the power then you are going to have to battle to get Affinity running, but if your real level of image work is not that heavy then in addition to GIMP there is Krita. GIMP is laughed at by Photoshop users because it is not an image creation tool. It is only an image manipulation tool as GIMP keep explaining, and the GIMP team have made it clear they have no intention of replicating the functionality of Photoshop. However, Krita *is* written to be an image creation tool and is coded according to the input of professional artists. If there is ever going to be an open source Photoshop, this is it. And, with Arch, you will always have the latest rendering. So you might want to take a peak.
I had an issue with bottles installation. And it was due to some mirror links were outdated. So I ran the following commands: sudo pacman -S reflector sudo pacman -Syy sudo pacman -Scc yay -S bottles And after that I installed affinity through bottles, you have to find bottles recipe for affinity and download affinity.exe It is actually very simple.
Win 10 -> Pop -> Arch -> Cachey Loved arch and hyprland, but my own lack of experience kept breaking arch, so I settled on cachey until I understand linux better as a whole. Wine has been my biggest challenge at first, since I like playing older games and modding them, feel alot more comfortable now, and Heroic launcher makes it even easier. All in all, while frustrating to learn a new OS, I can't say I regret the decision to leave windows it was inevitable. I'd just been putting it off for the past decade.
Luckily I havent yet broke Arch haha But yeah it is tough figuring out some stuff over here. I managed to install Affinity Photo few days ago, and the issue was actually in my mirror links or something like that. I had to update it.
Just a recomendation, if something happens to your arch and you want to go to a stable distro, I recomend you to switch to fedora kinoite instead of manjaro because manjaro is a rolling release distro like arch (meaning it ships all software update without any type of testing) and fedora kinoite is an inmutable distro and it is very stable because how it applies its updates,, and it even updates itself automatically and apply the updates in the next boot (but with no downtime) so you can just use your system and you will be almost always up to date and I recomend you fedora kinoite instead of silverblue because kinoite has KDE and silverblue has Gnome. I recomend you as well to check distrobox if y9u use this distro so you don't have the problems of the inmutability of the distro rather than when installing the nvidia drivers.
You can, but it's easier to just use btrfs and snapshot your system instead of changing distros. Btrfs is a very modern sustem that you can just make a snapshot and return to that snapshot if something breaks. Imutable distros are overkill for end users, it's better to just use btrfs, hell even zfs on root with arch is better than changing the whole distro.
I put Arch on my laptop, setup was somewhat involved, post-install, but nothing too hard and the wiki held my hand, with instructions verified by users, for virtually every single step of the process to get my specific hardware fully working. The only thing I haven't got fixed is my fingerprint reader, but I'm not overly bothered about that rn.
Yeah, and ChatGPT on top of all of that. I managed to make Bottles work with the help of ChatGPT. You can try to solve your fingerprint reader with AI.
If you'll have to reinstall Arch, consider Garuda as well as Manjaro you mentioned. Both are Arch based and Garuda has fantastic aesthetics, something that along this video you considered important. Myself, like when I chose a new car to buy, stability and reliability is the most important factor, so I opted by Debian Stable distro, it is extremely rare to crash, just like windows 10 or 11 today, it is fair to say, politics aside.
def not the hardest if installed with archinstall, though tbf going through the manual install process was really annoying so I think I'll probably use archinstall next time lmao
If you are gaming under Steam: from my understanding, you shouldn't have to mess with Bottles at all and Steam basically handles the Wine stuff for you (I think 🤔). If you turn on "Compatability Mode" in a Steam game's settings, it should give you the option to use Proton (Steam's custom version of Wine). Apologies if this isn't completely correct, I don't use Steam much.
i have Arch Linux (i used to use gentoo but i got tired of constantly managing the machine) with GDM + GNOME and a macOS theme i usually do programming (Java,C,ASM)
Switched to linux a week (or more) ago just because of the same reason: i saw a video showcasing "ricing" (linux customisation) and i wanted to do the same Now i have windows on a second drive for one single game which anticheat doesn't support Proton/Wine And yeah it's obviously Arch + hyprland btw
Ricing bought me too, it looks way too good. I got bored of Win 11 look and needed something new. And I feel like Arch + Hyprland is the best combination.
@@alenv808 gentoo used to be source-based, thus u see the gentoo updating their system meme, void is just arch but different, nix is basically immutable x hyprland (they love plasma but love hyprland way harder) and lfs? non existant. - dualboot windows & arch user
@@alenv808 Definitely recommend giving NixOS a go You get bleeding edge of Arch and ability to tinker with system while keeping the system stable for daily use And personally, the fact that everything (user(s)/apps/services and their exact versions, configs, etc. (potentially multiple devices, disk partitions, auth tokens and more if you're willing to!)) is declared and managed from a singular place was also very compelling to me It might be a time sink at first due to its differences and plethora of new information to learn, but it pays off if you're comfortable with its workflow There's been plenty of introduction videos popping out on it, and the community is willing to help Linux native apps mentioned in the video should work just fine, and the Hyprland supports it too! Would be interesting to see your thoughts on it if you decide to try it out
I used windows for all my life until I switched to arch Linux (my first and only distro, I also installed mint on a laptop but I never use it) and I Love arch
@@alenv808 Awesome. You could install Cachyos, then it also comes with preinstalled Hyperland under the install. It has better performance then stock arch with hyperland, due to the kernel it has, and the packages
@@alenv808 i have not tested hyperland on cachyos my self. I have used cachyos for a year now on the KDE plasma. Been a fantastic experience. I have a dualboot video of cachyos on my channel. If you want to look at how the install process is for it. You be suprised from what you have experienced now. There is a brand new Live Iso out now, that is couple of days old. Where you can auto mount from the live iso, that interact with fstab. There is more info on it on the website. Then there is a wiki with all the keybinds and all the stuff you need. Discord has a few hyperland nerds that you can talk to as well. I think you will like it
The hardest thing to me that make my self cannot give up Windows is Microsoft 365. I cant live without Excel Power Query, no other office apps on Linux would perform the same way, as my work mainly on Microsoft 365 ecosystem with other coworker with OneDrive. Do you have work around this on Linux? Sure I can live with Gimp, Darktable, Shotcut... I live with those software since 4 years ago, but I cant find Excel Power Query alternatives. Please help, I'm ready to full jump on Linux if there is a work around in Excel Power Query
Pretty sure windows has a backup option for microsoft account, of course if you don't want to do that you can just transfer your data into a hard drive
@@lol-ws6po is there maybe some cloud service i can dump all my windows files into? the one built into windows doesnt offer much space (since i used the free trail of office 365 already) also sorry if i sound dumb its almost 3 am for me lmao
You can always try arch or any other distro in virtual box. I haven't backed up windows, I removed it completely and there's no going back. But I moved my files (mainly photos) to cloud storage (Mega.nz) so I don't lose them.
I used rescuezilla. Amazing piece of software. It allows you to save your whole windows, Linux, (macos?) image that you can then restore at anytime and it returns exactly how it was. You can even compress the image to take up less space on your hard drive. Just know that you can browse and move files from an image that is *uncompressed*. That means that if you know you want to move over some files to Linux, move them to the secondary drive/partition *before* switching operating systems. If you save it as uncompressed, you can move those files over at any time.
@Johnnyvtg just checked the software, and it really is a great software. Maybe I should have used it before installing Arch haha. Thank you for letting me know! 🤗
After using windows for so long, updating arch like that doesn't seem to me like it's updated haha It updates very fast without it even needing a restart.
Yesterday I made Affinity work on Arch. The issue was with Bottles installation not Affinity. I had to clear the cache, update system and magnet links (or something like that). And as soon as I figured out that, Affinity installation was pretty simple.
As a heavy power user and game developer, I cannot do anything productive on Linux without hours of thinkering for basic features that would've taken my 3 minutes on Windows, so even though I like it, I stay away from it.
It's probably 'cause you are the type of user who uses the system to install what you need and then you need to configure it, when it comes to unixlikes you use the system itself to make what you need and use that. Most Windows power users think everthing works with the same concepts as windows, and then they break everything, like... They can't understand that other os's don't work work with the concept of "programs", they work with packages, and from there to break a system is a easy jump.
@@see-sharp I appreciate the jump to stereotypes, however I was a user of Arch Linux (btw) and Gentoo (Installed both manually and daily drived them for over a month each). I am familiar with using their package managers and fiddling with config files and dotfiles a lot. None of what I want to use works there. Unity? Won't even start. Anything Adobe? Can't even install, not wine, not bottles, not even custom wine builds like TKG. Curse me for pulling the Adobe card, but it really is a deal breaker, and even without Adobe, affinity software doesn't work either. Then what about Filmora (My main editing software)? It launches but crashes immediately through wine (And no Linux builds). For upscaling I'll admit I haven't tried Topaz software on wine yet or looked for native Linux builds, but I'll highball it and say it works just for the sake of things. And even if it did, that's only one out of many programs I use daily for my work, not nearly enough to even get started on anything. I don't hate or even dislike Linux, I quite like it in fact. I just can't see myself using it for what I need and want to do. The most I can do on it is browse the internet and play video games. AKA wasting time, instead of doing anything productive.
You will need the latest version of Wine 9.3, and a lot of tweaks as well as the dotnet (not mono) redistributables. It (Installing Affinity Photo in a Wine Prefix) is only accompishable on an Arch Linux.
Why is everyone using Rufus? Ventoy....please, just do the "cook" ONCE and you just throw iso's onto that USB and you get a choice of which iso you wanna use for install...
krita y gimp para edición de imágenes ya cumplen con su función de reemplazo al software de Adobe, esta también la opción de virtualizar para instalar esos programas usando kvm y virtmanager
Switched to Linux in 2005, after my Windows 2000 Installation got a BSOD, at first to Kubuntu und after a couple of issues with it and some Distro-Hopping finally found Arch.... And yes, coming from Windows, installing Software with Linux is so much easier...
Using Linux since 2005. is crazy, good job! I guess it is easier to install software in Linux, I just have to get used to terminal - searching and installing the right package.
@@alenv808I installed my first Distro in 2000, Caldera Open Linux 2.6, but i was not ready to switch back then and had no good Internet back then. I was just curious about Linux and i liked it from the first install.That Distro had KDE 2.something installed and i still use KDE. That was the time when you bought Magazines with Linux CDs in it - good old times. 🙂 Have fun with the Terminal and use the Arch Wiki, if you want to know something. Arch is pretty stable, just dont install too many packages from the AUR and dpnt upgrade too often. You maybe will see some bugs, the average Debian/Kubuntu user never sees, because you almost always get the newest version of everything, which is usually a blessing.
@@alenv808 Yes, once a month or so is perfectly fine. Sometimes i forget about updating for a while and then i have 700 packages to update. ;-) Thank god, pacman is fast, at least if you have a fast enough connection. Clean up your cached packages once in a while, because you do not want your root partition getting unusable because you are running out of space. Every 2 or 3 years i clean up my pacman mirror list with rankmirrors, otherwise it just works...
@Spectrulight as a mainly frontend developer, I don't have too much benefits by using Linux, or am I wrong? All I do in terminal is running npm scripts and git, the rest is text editor and browser.
Whats funny about the problem with bottles 4:43 is not even so much you got to the part where you were running the exe. You had troubles with flatpaks, and your file partition layout. Honestly surprised that archinstall, kde or Discover doesn't just have flathub enabled by default. The downfall of the "Arch Way" is you as as new user did not have flatpaks (the 'universal package' for Linux) installed by default.
Yeah I couldnt install bottles. Run every command I found online but no luck. And then I updated mirror links and system and all of a sudden I managed to install bottles, and affinity with it.
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Kubuntu | Arch + i3
@@stephiesmith6302 you've chose i3! Watched some videos on it and it is also a very cool tiling window manager 😊
Fedora
Solid choice! 😀
Well I use Arch Linux. Did I already mention I use Arch btw? Yeah I use Arch (btw)!
> Switches to Linux to try out ricing a laptop.
Honestly, a very underrated reason to use Linux.
Yeah haha but it can look so nice! I love it 😍
@@alenv808 lol bro its probably the main thing that got me interested in linux.. i was about to buy a whole new computer becasue i just thought it was dying it was soo slow... and then saw unixporn... installed linux over the top of windows just to try it out and it was like my computer was brand new again. blazing fast
@@alenv808 There's a distro called Archcraft which offers quite a few "preconfigured" tiling window manager options, although you have to pay a fee to get the ISOs with the "premium" preconfigured tiling window managers. I haven't tested those "premium" options.
On the free version though, there are openbox and bspwm configurations available. You could try them without installing, just to see how it is. Openbox is regular floating windows, bspwm is a tiling wm.
I switched for the same reason ngl (arch btw)
The hardest linux distro isn't arch. That would go to gentoo and linux from scratch.
Never heard of Gentoo, might give it a go if it has a great community like Arch.
@@alenv808 I don't think you would like it at all, it's very inconvenient and you should only use it if you want to suffer for youtube views. You sometimes have to wait HOURS to compile your packages instead of just installing the compiled binaries like you do in arch
@@alenv808 Gentoo is...interesting. I'd say its the most complex linux distro that actually has a userbase. Source based distro, you compile the kernel yourself, very interesting.
Just checked a video on it and yeah it takes a lot of time. I don't like that haha
@@alenv808i daily drive gentoo lts my second distro my first one was arch, on gentoo the installation takes longer other than that its fast
Most sane and objective review of Arch ever made
Thank you 🤗
nice to see someone trying out linux (especially Arch) and not complaining about using the terminal and stuff like that, love the video
Thank you very much for your feedback, much appreciated! About using the terminal....I have an urge to force myself to use neovim for at least a week 🫣
i used gentoo after windows, am i built diff
@@grigmax going from windows to gentoo is actually crazy
I used to hate the terminal when i was on pop_os, but for whatever reason, i think Arch has made me love using it
Yeah just switched to arch from windows 4 days ago and i love archhhh
if you didn't do it, go to steam settings > compatibility > steam play, enable that and most games work without having to set up proton for each one
Oh that's a game changer! Thank you very much 🤗
@@alenv808 Yeah, that's what the steam deck does (it runs on a customized archlinux base).
Not all games run, but a toooon do run.
@alenv808 fr. Literally 99% of the catalogue works seamlessly. For my collection, it's 100% compatible.
@@alenv808there also is heroic games launcher for epic/gog
was about to post this as well! proton is pretty much a godsend and valve is very determined to make gaming on linux better. valve has also set up a bit of a collab with arch linux recently, so things are looking really promising right now
Good video. Only two things: don't forget proton for windows games compatibilty and as an arch user of many years i should say that rarely i had the need to solve a problem in a hard way. Is often simple than other distribution.
Thank you for your feedback 🤗
Yeah I do believe issues aren't that hard to solve, it just needs time to figure out what the problem is and then how to solve it.
I had couple of issues, for example my audio drivers were failing so when I want to watch youtube videos, the video just sits there buffering. But I solved it and for now everything works perfectly.
Learning so much from all of you here in the comment section.
Linux has a nice community, that's for sure.
Thank you 🤗❤
about the yay and pacman, here is the difference:
with pacman, you can install software from the official repositories, which is what we call the app store of linux. there are repositories for each linux distro, bud arch's official ones are quite small
yay basically solves this problem, because yay can not only use the official repositories, but also the community one, which we call the AUR (Arch User Repository).
in sumary, yay does exactly what pacman does but with more software
And more risks... Way more risks...
@@see-sharp ye, somewhere on wiki it is not recommended to use.
how about Aura package manager? People are used to yay and paru and I haven't seen anyone talk about it.
@@see-sharp yeah forgon to mention that, thabks for your contribution!
@nicolasdesenvolvedor1642 Thank you very much for explanation. It does make sense.
@see-sharp that's what I've read. I guess I gotta be a bit careful of packages I install.
Isn't aura deprecated, I would suggest use paru instead.@@lycorislv
Very first scene "after using windows"
Me: watching someone open a macbook
Sounds funny when you put it that way 😂
Welcome to the Open source side of the force
Thank you! 🤗 Who would have thought there's so much great and free software.
its pretty neat to see someone, who like me, just went full send into linux recently. but instead you went right for arch!
one thing you learn pretty quick is that, people were REALLY determined to make the switch seem much more brutal than it actually is.
but yeah, there's plenty of guides out there that make the process incredibly easy. just update, pick the stable gpu driver, reboot, customize and make your desktop background pretty and done. most of your beginner time will be peeking around and learning the basic terminal commands.
unless you're a mint user, then you don't actually use the terminal unless mint itself has a major version update. and usually there's a few video guides already out on how to do the update, which honestly again due to mints hand holding you probably only need to do it once to learn how it goes.
(worst part is actually if you play very large games on steam, then most of that time is re-downloading 500gb games for 2 days and eating up all of your data for the month...)
next time try ventoy for booting iso you can use multiple different iso's at once and choose when you boot into it
Just checked Ventoy and that tool is a game changer! Thank you for letting me know about it! Time to test every distro 😂
such underrated youtube keep it up my guy
Thank you very much, means a lot to me 🤗
0:39 Wait until he hears about gentoo
Haha maybe I'll try gentoo one day as well
@@alenv808using linux for 3 years now, installed gentoo.
the performanc increace is noticeable, but takes along time to isntall (because of compiling) so i could only recomend if u have other things to do meanwhile. gentoo actually forces u to get out of your computer, or u would be just wasting time waiting
That would actually be a good reason for installing Gentoo haha
gentoo isnt hard. its easier than arch.
gentoo is BOTHERSOME. the time you wait to compile takes so long
hardest would go to nixos since *its a whole coding language you have to learn*
@@ios7jbpro ye, everything is well documented and gentoo has better tools to manage packagaes and pssible issue u may find.
but imo ots only worth it if you have other things to do. I personaly uodate my system while on the gym and plan all my stuff before turning on my computer, and i think helps me take full advantage of the OS.
So i think it is hard if u consider time management
Yeah, this seems like a pretty accurate experience, I enjoyed the video!
just switched to arch (before i was using windows 11) loving it so far!!!!(not the first time using linux) already built LFS
You saw how much traffic this video got you (although hardcore Arch fans might be a little frustrated you didn't do a manual setup), perhaps one way to move forward with your other series would be to continue with things like this! It certainly caught my attention, and with enough content you just might be able to earn subscribers, along with a stable income, in to time! Not to mention everyone who might be interested in your apps!
(P. S. if you'd like additional tips for Arch I'm more than welcome to assist you as I am able XD)
(P. P. S. Lutris is my go-to program for running Windows programs in Arch)
Yeah this video is still going crazy! And I'll definitely record a video where I try installing arch without arch-install script.
I do plan to continue with videos like these, but I also plan to do some videos that are not Linux related, maybe more towards coding and frontend development. Not sure if uploading different topics will have a bad hit on channel. I guess there's only one way to find out.
Would love to get any sort of income, it is dry since April haha. Priority is getting a job of course, but the market is crazy at the moment. So I build apps on the side and hoping for the best.
I plan on creating a discord community, that seems like a good idea. Until then we can talk on instagram if I get stuck somewhere on my Arch journey haha @alenvarazdinac
Thank you for your feedback! 🤗
that's very good, you are contributing to a world of more linux users. The more people use free open-source software, the more people will develop FOS applications.
I like the way you think 🤗
that last sentence; you got really well into it 😁
You Sir, are a brave soul. Simple Mint user here.
One thing ive noticed about arch linux: sure it can take some time to set up some things but then they are set up and you know how to do them next time. When I'm finished setting up the baseline I can basically do anything. Also It's then easier to use and troubleshoot other distros
You're probably right on this one
If you are going to have Steam installed anyways you might want to try adding the image editing program as a "Non-Steam Game", and enable Proton for it.
That is actually a genius move! I will try that with the next app that gives me trouble.
I actually made affinity work in the end with bottles. Works well at the moment.
@@alenv808 Happy to hear that you got Affinity to work!
Thank you, I had to update system and mirror links, then worked flawlessly.
@@alenv808 How did you get affinity working in bottles? Does it work better in steam proton vs bottles? Also, is it the latest version or an older version of Affinity?
I'm really sorry for you dude...
I hope you will come back soon, without wasting much time.
that's a nice move, image editing with GIMP is awesome, give it a chance! :) overall great video!
Thank you a lot! Gimp will be my choice probably if I don't manage to make Affinity work. But I would really love to use Affinity since I paid for it at the end of the day haha
Gimp is sadly 10 years behind other Programs in many aspects.
True even though it would probably be able to do most things I need.
gimp is more like glorified ms draw, use krita... still waiting for gimp3 to be released
Honestly I find Krita better than GIMP these days. I know it is advertised for artists but it does photo editing better than GIMP lol.
Great video! Love the accent too
Thank you very much! 🤗
Great bruh..! Keep going
1:00 bro that gave me flashbacks of my childhood!!!
1:02 ma dude, do I see some GTA: San Andreas codes right there? Big minds think the same! We know what is it about.
Haha finally someone found out an easter egg 😂 Good job!
i noticed hesoyam at the first second
you convinced me to try arch
Haha glad to hear that! You should definitely give it a go, at least in a virtual machine. It is fun, frustrating and rewarding.
@@alenv808 yes on a vm first of course
In case you don't have loads of time to waste, you can also install it using archinstall script. It is much simpler than going the old school route.
hows it going blud? switched to debian?
@@pelaajahacks8358dude what
as a person who has been using arch for quite some time i love it as a programmer linux is a no brainer i use arch becouse of the aur (arch user reposotory) its not all smooth for me tho i am still having weird wifi isues :) nice video
I had wifi issues but resolved it. The issue was wifi wasnt connecting automatically to known wifis and I always had to manually connect by typing the password again and again.
AUR is great, but I don't understand why some people say I should avoid it if I want stability 🤷♂️
Thank you for your comment, much appreciated 🔥
@@alenv808ikr it’s literally more stable than normal arch packages (in my experience)
I have issues with a particular phone's hotspot being slow and getting capped at 3 MB/s.
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 Similar issue. It thinks it’s metered for me (it isn’t)
I guess I should continue installing AUR packages then haha I installed vscode from AUR and didnt even realized
I just use Fedora + KDE plasma these days. Perfect combo of stable rolling release and great customization. I can tinker a lot but also have a fully working environment when I need it.
I understand that and I feel like I should make dualboot with something like that cuz you never know when Arch can give up on me haha
@@alenv808 maybe you can just selectively withold updates for a week or so to see if it causes any problems but in general. Unless you use the AUR a lot and thinker around like crazy, I think it should be pretty stable. These days everything is a flatpak so it should just work haha.
Also maybe you can get a cheap used laptop/chromebook to tinker with on Arch so your main computer stays on a boring/stable distro for actual work? haha
It does seem to be pretty stable for now haha not a single issue at the moment. Only some cosmetics which I have to fix.
I do have pc which is still on windows, but it doesn't work the best. So I am playing around on this laptop to see what should I install on the pc.
@@alenv808 as long as you don't abuse the AUR, it should just be fine! Flatpaks just seem to make everything very freaking stable these days too.
i value my time so my go to choice is debian testing ❤️🔥
Fair enough. Who knows where I'll end up once I start breaking Arch haha
Regardless of outcome, it's very based of you to dare and try new things like this 👍🏻
Thank you! I do love trying out new things and I have a lot planned for the channel. I got excited after all support on this video 😊
Yeah this dude is underrated
Haha thank you! Really means a lot to me! 🤗
tobe honest your screen looks so smooth - I think you have a high refresh rate !
Great video bro
Pacman is the built in package manager with arch. Arch has the AUR, arch user repository where users can post their own stuff, however, it's not checked by mods and is usually checked by random users so it's much less safe. if a package if liked enough by users it can actually land in the official repo of arch, pacman. Yay is an aur installer which just makes installing from there easier.
Thank you for explanation! 🤗
Learning a lot here from the comment section
@@alenv808 i think that in general. linux is actually just objectively superior to windows. the only issue that made me in the end just make my windows more secure with a debloat tool was the fact that my primary uses for my pc are ones that are only on windows. (hoyoverse games and valorant) if those were on linux or if i had more drive space. i would definitely stay on it. so i think in the end it is worth the switch as long as you got the space or are okay with sacrificing certain things.
Understandable. I think the best way for me would be to go with dual boot, wsl or hyper-v vm.
So I can use linux for coding and for everything else I'd use windows.
Maybe you can use linux in one of those ways too, if that's an option.
@@alenv808 if i had a disk larger than 500 gb i would
imagine leaking your windows key
Shh 🤫 No one knows, no one used it yet.
@@alenv808I used it
good job!
i doo the same befor 9months awfter 30years windows and dos :D
have fun at arch :) sometimes arch feels easier then windows
Thank you! I guess I will feel much more comfortable with arch after I learn all the tools and naming. Grub, wayland, x11...wth haha
BTW, I do not know how much Photoshop power you need. If you really need the power then you are going to have to battle to get Affinity running, but if your real level of image work is not that heavy then in addition to GIMP there is Krita. GIMP is laughed at by Photoshop users because it is not an image creation tool. It is only an image manipulation tool as GIMP keep explaining, and the GIMP team have made it clear they have no intention of replicating the functionality of Photoshop. However, Krita *is* written to be an image creation tool and is coded according to the input of professional artists. If there is ever going to be an open source Photoshop, this is it. And, with Arch, you will always have the latest rendering. So you might want to take a peak.
I managed to make Affinity work on Arch. But if any issues occur with it then I'll switch to Krita. Thank you 🤗
@@alenv808 👍
@@alenv808 pls tell me how
I had an issue with bottles installation. And it was due to some mirror links were outdated.
So I ran the following commands:
sudo pacman -S reflector
sudo pacman -Syy
sudo pacman -Scc
yay -S bottles
And after that I installed affinity through bottles, you have to find bottles recipe for affinity and download affinity.exe
It is actually very simple.
krita is criminally underdiscussed. It's literally the photoshop replacement that everyone wants gimp to be.
Win 10 -> Pop -> Arch -> Cachey
Loved arch and hyprland, but my own lack of experience kept breaking arch, so I settled on cachey until I understand linux better as a whole.
Wine has been my biggest challenge at first, since I like playing older games and modding them, feel alot more comfortable now, and Heroic launcher makes it even easier.
All in all, while frustrating to learn a new OS, I can't say I regret the decision to leave windows it was inevitable. I'd just been putting it off for the past decade.
Luckily I havent yet broke Arch haha
But yeah it is tough figuring out some stuff over here. I managed to install Affinity Photo few days ago, and the issue was actually in my mirror links or something like that. I had to update it.
lol implying Arch users leave their houses
There's too much things to customize and fix haha
Just a recomendation, if something happens to your arch and you want to go to a stable distro, I recomend you to switch to fedora kinoite instead of manjaro because manjaro is a rolling release distro like arch (meaning it ships all software update without any type of testing) and fedora kinoite is an inmutable distro and it is very stable because how it applies its updates,, and it even updates itself automatically and apply the updates in the next boot (but with no downtime) so you can just use your system and you will be almost always up to date and I recomend you fedora kinoite instead of silverblue because kinoite has KDE and silverblue has Gnome. I recomend you as well to check distrobox if y9u use this distro so you don't have the problems of the inmutability of the distro rather than when installing the nvidia drivers.
That is actually a very smart idea, I just wanted to use hyprland and rice it 🫣
Not sure if I can install hyprland on any major distro?
You can, but it's easier to just use btrfs and snapshot your system instead of changing distros.
Btrfs is a very modern sustem that you can just make a snapshot and return to that snapshot if something breaks.
Imutable distros are overkill for end users, it's better to just use btrfs, hell even zfs on root with arch is better than changing the whole distro.
I put Arch on my laptop, setup was somewhat involved, post-install, but nothing too hard and the wiki held my hand, with instructions verified by users, for virtually every single step of the process to get my specific hardware fully working. The only thing I haven't got fixed is my fingerprint reader, but I'm not overly bothered about that rn.
Yeah, and ChatGPT on top of all of that. I managed to make Bottles work with the help of ChatGPT. You can try to solve your fingerprint reader with AI.
If you'll have to reinstall Arch, consider Garuda as well as Manjaro you mentioned. Both are Arch based and Garuda has fantastic aesthetics, something that along this video you considered important. Myself, like when I chose a new car to buy, stability and reliability is the most important factor, so I opted by Debian Stable distro, it is extremely rare to crash, just like windows 10 or 11 today, it is fair to say, politics aside.
Garuda looks amazing, and I just checked - it also has a hyprland edition 🤯
Thank you for letting me know! 🤗
I expected at least half of the people in comments complaining about you not installing arch the manual way, but so far I found none. Wow.
You are awesome I have followed you
Thank you very much, means a lot 🤗
Good and interessting video.
Thank you very much 🤗
Good move it is so great I have heard
>there are some warnings
>didn't check them
chad asf
def not the hardest if installed with archinstall, though tbf going through the manual install process was really annoying so I think I'll probably use archinstall next time lmao
I agree, I'll try to install arch without archinstall script and upload it 🤗
Thx for win11 key! It works!
TY FOR THE KEY
Welcome to Gentoo master race
Thank you 🤗
If you are gaming under Steam: from my understanding, you shouldn't have to mess with Bottles at all and Steam basically handles the Wine stuff for you (I think 🤔). If you turn on "Compatability Mode" in a Steam game's settings, it should give you the option to use Proton (Steam's custom version of Wine). Apologies if this isn't completely correct, I don't use Steam much.
Yeah, should work like that. But havent tried it yet.
Subbed!
Thank you a lot 🤗
Use the Flatpak version of Bottles so that you get all the right dependencies. Bottles is very sensitive to these conditions.
Why choose each distro:
Ubuntu - simple install
Kali - hacking tools
Arch - permission to say "i use arch btw"
Zorin OS17 on my main PC and Mint 22 on my 10yrs Old Laptop.
Zorin seems like a serious distro 🤔
i have Arch Linux (i used to use gentoo but i got tired of constantly managing the machine)
with GDM + GNOME
and a macOS theme
i usually do programming (Java,C,ASM)
Manjaro is cool, I used it for about a year then switched back to some Ubuntu based OSs, currently using Kubuntu because of KDE Plasma
Why you switched from Manjaro? It gave you some issues?
First part of the video is 100% me.
Haha glad you found it relatable 🤗
Switched to linux a week (or more) ago just because of the same reason: i saw a video showcasing "ricing" (linux customisation) and i wanted to do the same
Now i have windows on a second drive for one single game which anticheat doesn't support Proton/Wine
And yeah it's obviously Arch + hyprland btw
Ricing bought me too, it looks way too good. I got bored of Win 11 look and needed something new.
And I feel like Arch + Hyprland is the best combination.
love your accent
Thank you very much, I am from Croatia so english is not my native language but I try my best 🤗
Author: yeah, I installed the hardest linux distro
Gentoo, Void, Nix, Linux From Scratch: maaaaan
According to the experienced linux users from the comments, the mentioned arent necessarily harder but rather more time consuming.
@@alenv808 gentoo used to be source-based, thus u see the gentoo updating their system meme, void is just arch but different, nix is basically immutable x hyprland (they love plasma but love hyprland way harder) and lfs? non existant. - dualboot windows & arch user
Okay, you got me interested in nix 🫣
@@alenv808 you're welcome :)
@@alenv808 Definitely recommend giving NixOS a go
You get bleeding edge of Arch and ability to tinker with system while keeping the system stable for daily use
And personally, the fact that everything (user(s)/apps/services and their exact versions, configs, etc. (potentially multiple devices, disk partitions, auth tokens and more if you're willing to!)) is declared and managed from a singular place was also very compelling to me
It might be a time sink at first due to its differences and plethora of new information to learn, but it pays off if you're comfortable with its workflow
There's been plenty of introduction videos popping out on it, and the community is willing to help
Linux native apps mentioned in the video should work just fine, and the Hyprland supports it too!
Would be interesting to see your thoughts on it if you decide to try it out
Bro's about to learn the existential dread of what a rolling unstable release mean.
- Happy Debian boomers 🎉
Try to install affinity photo in virtual machine on windows. Then copy installed program to wine/bottles and try to run. I dont know if it will work.
I actually managed to make Affinity work on Arch using bottles. It works good for now.
You can try other Arch type Distros like Endevour os, Cachyos or Garuda.
Yeah I got my eyes on Garuda, it has nice hyprland rice out of the box haha
I used windows for all my life until I switched to arch Linux (my first and only distro, I also installed mint on a laptop but I never use it) and I Love arch
Hey how is your OLED display working with arch? Fellow Vivobook OLED user here
I haven't notice any issues with it. Works perfectly so far 😁
After using Windows for all my life, I've decided to user Doors for a change.
I am prolly gonna commit sudoku but I am gonna switch from Windows 11 straight to Arch Linux. Wish me luck.
If you faced random freeze for sometime setup swap and install earlyoom, this is caused due to less available memory
Just checked it, that's a tool for like freeing up memory?
Thank you for letting me know 🤗
How is Hipperland? Then did you get a date? So you could say "I use Arch btw?"
I love hyprland and enjoying using it. I still havent got a date, still looking tho! Gotta stay positive haha
@@alenv808 Awesome. You could install Cachyos, then it also comes with preinstalled Hyperland under the install. It has better performance then stock arch with hyperland, due to the kernel it has, and the packages
Ah okay, I might try it in VM. Does it look nice out of the box? haha
@@alenv808 i have not tested hyperland on cachyos my self. I have used cachyos for a year now on the KDE plasma. Been a fantastic experience. I have a dualboot video of cachyos on my channel. If you want to look at how the install process is for it. You be suprised from what you have experienced now. There is a brand new Live Iso out now, that is couple of days old. Where you can auto mount from the live iso, that interact with fstab. There is more info on it on the website. Then there is a wiki with all the keybinds and all the stuff you need. Discord has a few hyperland nerds that you can talk to as well. I think you will like it
the network issue is probably related to nm-applet not running add an exex nm-applet in your config
I picked Debian, and it's forks to start. I'm going to give Arch a go when I get a chance.
You definitely should do it, it's fun! 😊
The hardest thing to me that make my self cannot give up Windows is Microsoft 365. I cant live without Excel Power Query, no other office apps on Linux would perform the same way, as my work mainly on Microsoft 365 ecosystem with other coworker with OneDrive. Do you have work around this on Linux? Sure I can live with Gimp, Darktable, Shotcut... I live with those software since 4 years ago, but I cant find Excel Power Query alternatives. Please help, I'm ready to full jump on Linux if there is a work around in Excel Power Query
Maybe it can be ran using Bottles, that's how I managed to run Affinity Photo, which is a windows software not compatible with linux.
may we know what kind of software you used to backup windows? im planning to install arch myself but wanna go back if i dont like it :D
Pretty sure windows has a backup option for microsoft account, of course if you don't want to do that you can just transfer your data into a hard drive
@@lol-ws6po is there maybe some cloud service i can dump all my windows files into? the one built into windows doesnt offer much space (since i used the free trail of office 365 already) also sorry if i sound dumb its almost 3 am for me lmao
You can always try arch or any other distro in virtual box.
I haven't backed up windows, I removed it completely and there's no going back. But I moved my files (mainly photos) to cloud storage (Mega.nz) so I don't lose them.
I used rescuezilla. Amazing piece of software. It allows you to save your whole windows, Linux, (macos?) image that you can then restore at anytime and it returns exactly how it was. You can even compress the image to take up less space on your hard drive. Just know that you can browse and move files from an image that is *uncompressed*. That means that if you know you want to move over some files to Linux, move them to the secondary drive/partition *before* switching operating systems. If you save it as uncompressed, you can move those files over at any time.
@Johnnyvtg just checked the software, and it really is a great software. Maybe I should have used it before installing Arch haha.
Thank you for letting me know! 🤗
i usualy use gimp also little tip you can just do yay to update your whole system and yay package name to search and install
After using windows for so long, updating arch like that doesn't seem to me like it's updated haha
It updates very fast without it even needing a restart.
Just a question from a Linux noob here, how did you switch from your old ui to hyprland?
I use windows because RN windows is the best gaming OS ever
Well I would agree with that. Everything is just straight forward on there, I just got bored of it looks and wanted to try something new.
rufus is a rookie mistake, real ones use ventoy
Yeah didn't know about ventoy until someone wrote it in comments. Next time I will use ventoy.
Nah gnome disk utility is better
@marcchef98 So many new software to figure out haha
Fuck ventoy
Have you tried Garuda Linux - an Arch-based system, with rolling releases?
Garuda is the distro I would like to check next, when I manage to break the Arch.
for affinity photo you could try running it throu steam but before you have to enable steam play
Yesterday I made Affinity work on Arch. The issue was with Bottles installation not Affinity. I had to clear the cache, update system and magnet links (or something like that). And as soon as I figured out that, Affinity installation was pretty simple.
is it safe to show your windows activation key?
Supposedly it is if it came preinstalled on your pc, according to the comments. It is built in a motherboard then.
steam have integrated proton. You just need to enable steam play (or sth) in settings. Then most windows games will work even without any tinkering
Okay, I gotta try that out. Thank you 🤗
As a heavy power user and game developer, I cannot do anything productive on Linux without hours of thinkering for basic features that would've taken my 3 minutes on Windows, so even though I like it, I stay away from it.
I understand that. I have the urge to tinker with config files all the time instead of working something productive 🫣
It's probably 'cause you are the type of user who uses the system to install what you need and then you need to configure it, when it comes to unixlikes you use the system itself to make what you need and use that.
Most Windows power users think everthing works with the same concepts as windows, and then they break everything, like... They can't understand that other os's don't work work with the concept of "programs", they work with packages, and from there to break a system is a easy jump.
@@see-sharp I appreciate the jump to stereotypes, however I was a user of Arch Linux (btw) and Gentoo (Installed both manually and daily drived them for over a month each).
I am familiar with using their package managers and fiddling with config files and dotfiles a lot.
None of what I want to use works there. Unity? Won't even start. Anything Adobe? Can't even install, not wine, not bottles, not even custom wine builds like TKG. Curse me for pulling the Adobe card, but it really is a deal breaker, and even without Adobe, affinity software doesn't work either. Then what about Filmora (My main editing software)? It launches but crashes immediately through wine (And no Linux builds). For upscaling I'll admit I haven't tried Topaz software on wine yet or looked for native Linux builds, but I'll highball it and say it works just for the sake of things. And even if it did, that's only one out of many programs I use daily for my work, not nearly enough to even get started on anything.
I don't hate or even dislike Linux, I quite like it in fact. I just can't see myself using it for what I need and want to do. The most I can do on it is browse the internet and play video games. AKA wasting time, instead of doing anything productive.
Arch
Great choice! 🤗
You will need the latest version of Wine 9.3, and a lot of tweaks as well as the dotnet (not mono) redistributables. It (Installing Affinity Photo in a Wine Prefix) is only accompishable on an Arch Linux.
Why is everyone using Rufus? Ventoy....please, just do the "cook" ONCE and you just throw iso's onto that USB and you get a choice of which iso you wanna use for install...
I didnt know about Ventoy when installing Arch haha
But yeah ventoy seems to be a great tool
I use fedora media writer
An alternative to affinity photo is Krita
I made Affinity work on my system, but if it gives me some trouble in future I'll switch to Krita. Thank you! 🤗
for image editing, i recommend Krita
Ive done arch without the install script and i must say LFS is harder.
Maybe I try LFS or Gentoo sometime in future.
krita y gimp para edición de imágenes ya cumplen con su función de reemplazo al software de Adobe, esta también la opción de virtualizar para instalar esos programas usando kvm y virtmanager
I managed to install Affinity, issue was in Bottles installation.
Switched to Linux in 2005, after my Windows 2000 Installation got a BSOD, at first to Kubuntu und after a couple of issues with it and some Distro-Hopping finally found Arch....
And yes, coming from Windows, installing Software with Linux is so much easier...
Using Linux since 2005. is crazy, good job!
I guess it is easier to install software in Linux, I just have to get used to terminal - searching and installing the right package.
@@alenv808I installed my first Distro in 2000, Caldera Open Linux 2.6, but i was not ready to switch back then and had no good Internet back then. I was just curious about Linux and i liked it from the first install.That Distro had KDE 2.something installed and i still use KDE. That was the time when you bought Magazines with Linux CDs in it - good old times. 🙂
Have fun with the Terminal and use the Arch Wiki, if you want to know something. Arch is pretty stable, just dont install too many packages from the AUR and dpnt upgrade too often. You maybe will see some bugs, the average Debian/Kubuntu user never sees, because you almost always get the newest version of everything, which is usually a blessing.
What do you mean by "don't upgrade too often"? I shouldn't do "pacman -Syu" too much?
@@alenv808 Yes, once a month or so is perfectly fine. Sometimes i forget about updating for a while and then i have 700 packages to update. ;-)
Thank god, pacman is fast, at least if you have a fast enough connection. Clean up your cached packages once in a while, because you do not want your root partition getting unusable because you are running out of space. Every 2 or 3 years i clean up my pacman mirror list with rankmirrors, otherwise it just works...
Ah okay, gotta write this down just in case haha
Thank you very much 🤗
LOL there is no 'A' in any activation key. RIP for who tried it
7:17 CROATIA MENTIONED
for image editing just use GIMP
I actually made affinity work on my system, but if it gives me trouble I'll probably switch to something different like Gimp or Krita.
@@alenv808How about you just download windows and move on instead of tinkering all day, like how most devs and creators do?
@@yadpreet7454alot of devs use linux.
@yadpreet7454 that's a good one to be honest haha
I gotta check what are the options in ricing windows 😂
@Spectrulight as a mainly frontend developer, I don't have too much benefits by using Linux, or am I wrong?
All I do in terminal is running npm scripts and git, the rest is text editor and browser.
Whats funny about the problem with bottles 4:43 is not even so much you got to the part where you were running the exe. You had troubles with flatpaks, and your file partition layout. Honestly surprised that archinstall, kde or Discover doesn't just have flathub enabled by default. The downfall of the "Arch Way" is you as as new user did not have flatpaks (the 'universal package' for Linux) installed by default.
Yeah I couldnt install bottles. Run every command I found online but no luck. And then I updated mirror links and system and all of a sudden I managed to install bottles, and affinity with it.