@@clarkdjgac Hi Debbie, the Phillips screw has loctite on it and can be hard to turn. Make sure you are using a good quality #2 Phillips screwdriver. If you just can't turn it, you can use a 6mm Allen wrench with a tight J bend and get underneath the latch to loosen the bolt. The 6mm bolt is also very tight, that's why I undo the Phillips screw and get the folding latch out of the way. Let me know if you are still struggling and I will try my best to help. Last resort would be to take it to your nearest bike shop and nicely ask if they could help you out.
I just rotated my handlebars and stem and now my e-bike is a perfect size for me! Thanks so much! If any of you out there has the XP Lite, you don't need to remove the screw and access the bolt in the centre of the stem. I still loosened that bolt and found that the stem would not turn on the XP Lite. I did find 2 bolts gripping the side area of the stem which I used the same P-handle wrench that I used to loosen the bolt in the centre of the stem but I tightened that one up since it didn't make any difference in turning the stem. After I loosed the bolts on the side of the stem, it was easy to turn like he did in the video. I tightened the bolts after turn the stem around and did the same as he did for the handlebars and the bike is not perfect for my size and I'm around 4 foot 10 inches tall.
LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!!!!! Thank you SO much. My 5'11" son was being tortured by the handle bar angle. I followed your tweaks on PWP's video and between the two, got the whole thing done in under 15 minutes much to the ecstatic delight of my son who FINALLY now has confidence to ride the XP LIte without his center of balance being WAY too far forward. And we have even been able to shorten the handle bar height from the max of "0" to the next notch down "1". VERY appreciative.
Thank you for sharing the other method. I just bought a Lectric XP Lite 2.0 and was able to flip it 180 degrees with just loosing 2 bolts gripping the side area of the stem. Very easy to do. My son loves the new setup! Thank you so much!
Recently purchased a lectric XP 3.0 step thru. Came across your video on rotating the handlebars (yesterday 04.14.2023) next day did the deed. World of difference, 4.0". Easier on the back and wrists on this ol 78 y/o. THx again for the video.
For me, being 5' 2", rotating the handlebars increase the comfort of the ride immensely. I liked riding before but now I LOVE it. Thank you for all your videos
Chris, thanks so much for doing this. You are the 1st person to address these ugly handlebars and offer a solution. I want this bike for my wife but I knew it would be a reach for her to grasp the handlebars and feel connected and comfortable riding her 1st E-bike. You saved me a lot of decision making and watching an endless amount of reviews. By the way not one person answered me back about replacing these handlebars but you did and I thank you.
Great information, but if you apply this to the XP 3.0 you will need to add another step. In addition to the hex in the stem, there is an additional “collar” around the stem and you will need to loosen the 2 additional bolts in the collar. These were put in with blue thread lock so it is helpful to have an impact drill to loosen them. (Rob)
I just got on my new XP 2.0 step-through tonight and the first thing I thought was “WOW, wish those handlebars tilted back just a bit!” Haha THANK YOU!!!
You've done a great job clearly explaining how to do this. For the first time since I got my bike in August I can actually sit on that cushy seat. There are no stability problems up to full speed. Instead of removing that phillips head screw (could not loosen it with several screwdriver tips) etc, I removed the lower portion of the hinge with two allen wrenches. What I did seemed easier. I wasn't even aware you could reverse the handlebar until I found your video. Have been passing this link to others when they complain about their reach. Thanks again.
DUDE - I literally gasped out loud when you removed the top bracket then were able to spin the actual handles around. LOL. Changed my life. Sincere thanks, Signed, A short person who loves her new bike but is sad the handlebars are in the next county. ;)
Just swapped position on 3 bikes. Biggest improvement in bike comfort yet. Thank you for demonstrating the ease of stem reversal. Easypeasy, well worth the minor effort required. So much more comfortable on shoulders and arms. This mod combined with the freewheel swap make the bike more comfortable to ride and more like my other bikes. Thanks for all you do. Thumbs up!!
Just did this to my 3.0. Made a huge difference in my reach for the grips! My fingers would go numb and my wrists would hurt after only a mile or two. I tried everything! Hoping this helps! Thank you so much! UPDATE: found the handlebars were too close for stopping & starting, so I reversed the stem back & ordered new handlebars.
Just got our two lectric XP 2.0 bikes. After the first ride my wife complained about the handles "being too far away". So after I made the changes you showed, my wife is a VERY happy camper. Thank you.
THank you sooo much! I have struggled with wrist pain/pressure and feeling like I was slipping forward off my seat until my husband flipped my handlebars…this is a game changer. He did have double the number of bolts than your video showed, but it still worked!
Loved the video. I did discover an important shortcut for this excellent video! If you use a hex socket on a socket wrench you will not need to deal with the small clamp / Phillips head screw at all. The hex socket / socket wrench fits UNDER the clamp - plus, the socket wrench makes light work of that very tight fork bolt. The hex sockets are available at all the discount tool big box stores for about $10 for a set. (which has all the 4mm you need as well) . Make sure you are getting the metric set. Again, fantastic video, very well done - hope this hack makes it even better. Thanks!
The other day I rotated the handlebars on my XP2. All by myself...not bad for a 72 year old biking gal. I removed the lower portion of the hinge with 2 Allen wrenches as suggested by Jay P. Tiny little phillips head screws and I don't get along well. I love riding my bike now. Thank You for the information.
Thanks so much for this video. My only problem was in trying to remove that Phillips head screw. You did mention it was a "funny" screw. I decided to leave it alone, but had to use the "L" shaped wrench to get to the 6mm bolt. Since I didn't have the leverage with the preferred Park Tool, I took my rubber mallet and hit the smaller wrench a few times to loosen it up. I was a success. Turning around the handlebars is a game changer for me. I have learned so much from you. Also, your video on adjusting the derailleur on my XP 2.0 saved me. You're the BEST!
Great video explaining both how to do the mod and what the mod does to the folding. I'd love to have the handlebars a bit closer - I do not like to lean forward even a little when riding a bicycle as it tends to hurt my back on longer rides - but as we are going to use the XPs folded up in an RV and need them to take up as little space as possible unfortunately this mod will not work for us. Thank you for including the folding part at the end, it saved us a lot of hassle finding it out by ourselves!
Appreciate the video. Reversed the stems on two XP 2.0 bikes and love the difference. I fold and store in the 45-Quart storage containers, and they fit nicely. I snap pipe foam insulation on the rear carrier rack on the side that touches the front fork shock when folded. Nothing else touches or rubs. I remove the handlebars with the quick release and then fold the stem down. The handle bars fit between the bike rear tires (handlebar is vertical and handlebar stem is horizontal) and the brake handles and electronic power switch all fit inside the container. I also place pipe insulation on the stem of the removed handlebars, and this prevents rubbing against the wheel spokes. Happy to announce that rotating the stem does not prevent compact storage in these containers. I can also insert the battery charge cable (on a slight angle with care) and it still inserts while the bikes are folded. You can also just partially open the stem hinge and use the L-part of a regular allen wrench without removing any latch parts.
I'm definitely going to try this. The front of the seat hurts my groin when pedaling even though it's a heavily padded seat. I'm hoping by sitting more upright I won't get that groin pain. A little tip from an old DIYer. For those who are using a regular 6mm allen wrench you may find that it's a bit short so you can't get enough leverage to turn the bolt. No problem. If you put an appropriately sized socket on the end of the allen wrench with an extension you can gain a lot of leverage to turn that 6mm bolt easily.
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I had 2 more screws that I had to loosen before I was able to spin the handlebars,
Thanks Jay for video. The shortened reach really helped my wife. My only change from your instructions was I could get on the post allen screw without having to take the extra pieces out. I did both of ours in about 20 minutes. You were very helpful.
Thanks Larry. For this tutorial I just wanted to be sure folks would be able to tighten the 6mm bolt back up. It's harder to reach without removing the latch but doable.
Thank you!!!!! Following your terrific instructions, I just did this modification to both of our Lectric 2.0 eBikes in under an hour. I used a ratchet with the Allen wrench attachment to loosen the screw to turn the post, and didn't have to deal with that little Phillips head. Again, thank you!
I wish that I had seen this video before I purchased and installed a little longer and swept back "mustache bars" that only gave me an extra 2" towards the rider. The solution that you provided with this video is something that I never considered. Thank You !!! Headed to the garage and bike now.
T hank you, that has confirmed what I have done yesterday, it ha so improved my riding position, I am now sitting more upright without pain in my hands and arms. Some folks suggested this could not be done. My bike is quite different but most details transfer. Thanks, I could not see why this would not work. very happy with new sitting position.
Thank you so much for this. Was thinking of spending money to replace the handle bar for a shorter reach. So glad I found your video! You just saved me a couple of bucks and made my biking more comfortable.
I needed this. I’m a left arm amputee and wear a prosthetic arm when I ride. The fake arm doesn’t allow shoulder extension like normal and the reach to the handlebars is a big deal for me. This modification will save me money and make the bike much more comfortable to ride. Thank ya very much! ❤
Chris - Easy Peasy Nice and EASY” as my 9 year old grandson would say. With your excitement video took about 20 min. Haven the cloud 9 seat on it now. Wife’s new Selle Royal Brown Drifter goes on her Ancheer tomorrow. I’m now hoping the Cloud 9 doesn’t work like I think so I can change to the Drifter. Note: the screw ended up staying in the sloe so made it super easy. Great job thanks.
Thank you for this video. It is the best video ever on RUclips. I am short and I needed the handlebars closer. This was perfect. Easy to follow instructions. Thank you again.
I just did this and although ideally it wouldn't move it as close as it did, it has relieved the discomfort in my hands and wrists. You may wish to remove the part that the screw goes through as mine fell off when doing the adjustment. Thanks for the great tutorial.
Congratulations Chris, I have NEVER subscribed to a youtube channel before but this quick, easy and free mod completely changed my XP. As soon as I did it everything fell into place. I was sitting completely upright and the handlebars were right where my arms naturally rest. The ride is not as squirrely as it used to be either. I thought I was going to have to change to different handlebars to achieve this but I didn't want to change the angle of the grips in doing so. This was the perfect solution and I can't thank you enough!
Here is the official Lectric stance on the reverse stem idea shown in this video. "At this time, this modification would not be Lectric approved. However, please note that you are able to switch out to an after-market handlebar without voiding the warranty."
@@PedalWithPowerI'm over 66, recently bought 2 new XP Lites. I wouldn't change anything myself. It's designed to be used the way it is. I modify nothing, I do add factory racks and saddlebags. I still have 11 months of warranty left.
Thank you so much for posting this video! I followed your procedure to adjust my XP 3.0, and the fit is now SO much better. A couple of things were different (have to loosen 2 bolts below the stem to twist it around, and 4 bolts holding down the handlebars instead of 2). Now I just need to figure out if I can make the brake levers a bit closer to the handlebars so I don't have to stretch my hands so much to squeeze them.
Thank you for making this video. I just got a new 750w folding electric bike and the first test spin was difficult because the handlebars are crooked and I couldn't figure out how to line them up. Also, I might try flipping them around to make the reach less far.
Thank you for your clear explanation. It wasn't obvious to me that there was a way to do this before your post, it is kind of concealed. I may have to do this for my wife's new Lectric XP 3.0, which is on order, as she is petite and I want to make sure the bike is optimized for her comfort.
If you do this on a 3.0, there are 2 additional steps needed. You will also need a 2.5 mm and 5 mm hex wrench in addition to those mentioned in the video. There is a set screw on the side of the Phillips head screw the requires a 2.5 mm hex to loosen before you can take out the Phillips head screw that holds the stem folding mechanism. There are also 2 hex bolts on a collar around stem that will need to be loosened with a 5 mm wrench before you can rotate the stem.
Thanks! I just did this modification, it was pretty quick and easy, the bike will be a lot more comfortable for her now! She is pretty petite and at 5' 2", it was quite a stretch to reach the handlebars as delivered, she found it very fatiguing. It is worth the minor folding complications!
i found the lectic 2.0 extremely uncomfortable out of the box. by switching out the handlebars with BMX bars from a bike from goodwill and a set back seat stem from amazon, put the peddles forward. now i will spin the stem 180 and i will now have a foldable comfort bike. lectic 2.0 is a good bike but needs tweaked. awesome video
I rotated my handlebars today. It is an improvement while riding. But stopping and starting are much more difficult as there is not enough space between seat and handlebars to allow easy movement when getting on and getting off. The angle of the stem is a little too extreme.
Chris top shelf videos actual real world . Tomorrow I flip the bars around and your video is really good. I can certainly live with any folding issues. I’ve had my bike for a month and a half but I’ve only been able to look at it because of prostate issues however I think I have found the seat but if anybody knows of any other solution for no pressure seat I am open. I found a seat I’m going to try a cloud nine with a relaxed area but if I have to go to the really expensive ones I will do it and I will let you know how that works out so that your channel can help other men and women with the same issue. But I thought I would ask you if you have any experience or have seen the real world one that works I would really appreciate that. Thanks again for sharing your expertise with us.
I think the modification is great. I no longer feel like I'm on a "clown bike". The benefits are more comfortable handlebar reach, more comfortable posture, no tingly hands after 30 minutes, and more "typical bicycle" maneuverability--just a better bike profile and a more enjoyable ride. Just yesterday a ride of 45 minutes followed later by a ride of 30 minutes. The backwards slope of the handlebar stem makes better use of shock absorbing forks and allows better handlebar height. The cons are there's less room to stand between the seat and the handlebars when mounting/dismounting the bike, but that's a very small portion of the riding experience. And of course, it doesn't fold as compactly. But I have found, as I imagine others have, that I don't fold the bike often and when I do it's a pain! I keep wondering, does the mod do anything to compromise safety or the rest of the design of the bike. Maybe a "bike engineer" could comment.
Thank you for this video! I change it and made some adjustment to me seat. I took a 1 hour joy ride, it felt like a different bike. Some much better. I appreciate your time and tips on this. This was very helpful!
Thanks! I always felt like like I was awkwardly reaching for the handlebars when setting upright. I see that it messes with the folding aspect, but it turns out I don't fold my Lectric hardly ever, as it's already awkward enough without customizations to bear hug and carry onto a bus with me. I know. I tried it. I had to sit in handicap seating. Luckily it was an empty enough bus.
I just finished up this insulation. I can say with swept back handlebars it really limits the space. Not sure I'm going to go back to the stock handlebars though as it's a lot of work to transfer everything over. I just wish I would've known about this fix/mod before I bought my swept back handlebars. It's definitely much more comfortable. I ended up stripping out the bolt that goes into the fork, so be forewarned China is not exactly well known for its alloys. I wanted to get it really snug, but it strips easily, and I was using a precision set of Allen sockets. Of course I was also torquing on it with a three eights drive. Anyway, just be careful not to overdo it like I did
Thanks for the feedback Troy! Yes, stripping out bolts = 😖 If you think the original handlebars will be better long term, it'll be worth the time to switch. I tried out 4 different handlebars on my Haibike before finding my happy place.
@@VideoImagesByTrig Just replying to @Troy D. He said he switched his handlebars to "swept-back" style handlebars. If you rotate the stem and use swept-back handlebars, it is going to be a tight fit.
Good job explaining how to rotate handle bar post. I switched out the handle bar for a 2 1/2" less reach Moto cross handle bar in blue aluminum. Now the wife would like me to switch her post around too.
I finally did this to my bike. Should have done it along time ago. My not worried about how the bars fold afterwards. I found the bike handles far better at slow speed turns, far less tendency for it to want to high side you. Plus it looks a little less “clown bike” with the stem slanted towards the rider.
Great video and the toughest part of the job was breaking the bolts loose from the loctite. Also, by using just a regular allen wrench instead of a long one, I was able to get at the 6mm bolt without dismantling anything. I just finished but I'm pretty sure it's going to be more comfortable with not having my arms straight while riding.
Don't forget to use Loctite (blue) on the threads as you reassemble the bike parts. Don't know if they use it at the factory, but Loctite can save your butt whenever you're assembling / reassembling things that move.
so, this is a great tip. i love the bike but the geometry is not very friendly for me. this will help me to not have to reach so far from the high seat position i must use... one of the comments also referred to a bmx setback seat stem. that would also help to provide an overall lower center of gravity; yay! also, to mention the awkward (not really) new folding position isn't an issue if you remove the adjustable handlebar height assembly from it's stem (which i do, anyway.) thank you for a great mod
With regards to getting the levers and triggers back to the correct side, I believe you can just rotate the straight upper height-adjustable section back 180° at the end. I’m sure the upper tube spins independently of the lower section on this type?
Now that you made this video on turning the bike stem around, witch was great. Now when or will you make a video of you riding your bike after the change? Thank you.
Thanks for watching Lorenzo. I don't ride with the handlebars turned around. I'm 6'4" and even with the handlebars forward, it's a pretty short reach for me. I just made this video for folks that wanted to know how to do this.
@@PedalWithPower Thanks for adding your height details. I'm 6'3" and looking at doing this for my wife who is much shorter but your comment answers my own question on if this is worth doing or not for myself and my height, which it's not. Thank you for the great idea and video!
well it took only seconds to rotate my stem 😊. I had one allen screw to loosen the rest were Quick connections. bike is like yours as far as folding but that's ok .I have alot better reach now thanks for the video you saved my day and some money 😊
One of the problems for me on the xp is the pedals are not forward enough because my knees have poor range of motion. I think with a bmx setback seatpost and your idea of changing the handlebar stem will solve my ergonomic issues with my knees. Thank you for posting.
Great video. I was wondering how you’re measuring the handlebar reach? 26” was longer than I expected. My current ebike reach is 19” and I’m looking for something shorter. I think that’s measured from the front of the seat to the handlebars.
We have two of the Lectric 2.0 XPst bikes. I was uncomfortable with the forward reach and had actually bought a casting that moved the handlebars about 2" rearward. I had never realized that just by loosening a big bolt the stem could be rotated. Yesterday I did this process and the result is WONDERFUL. No more leaning forward; lots easier on my aging wrists and hands. Two caveats: (1) No need to remove philips screw. You are able to gain access to the large stem bolt with an allen wrench. Be advised that the big bolt is REALLY torqued down. I was afraid I would break my wrench in loosening it! All you need is about 1/4 turn to be able to rotate the stem around. Make sure you re-tighten the bolt. (2) The big issue with this modification is that the handlebars fold completely differently, messing up the original outside-fold. However, I have found I can collapse my bike to be even smaller than the factory original by first removing the seat, then folding the bike, then removing the handlebars, then folding the steering stem, and finally using a couple of bungees to secure the handlebars to the rear carrier, securing the wheels to each other in the process. Then you can replace the seat. Folded bike is now narrower than original. All it takes is a couple of extra steps! Can't see any problem with steering at all. I think it's the steering fork angle that matters, and that hasn't changed.
Thanks for the info! I just recommended removing the Phillips screw so that folks could really torque that 6mm bolt back down. Got to get it tight! 👍 It does fold down differently, though. Great commenting!
Hi, thank you for your intuitive demonstration! If you get a moment, and I know this is off topic, and I apologize for that. My question is; Can you power up the Lectric 2.0 without the key in it? I had 2 of these bikes, loved them both, but I never tried to see if this was possible, I just assumed like most probably do, that without the key it wouldn't power up. I just received a different ebike with the same electronics, and frame like the Lectric 2.0, and it does power up "without" the key in it! So if the Lectric 2.0 does the same thing, it might worth making a video to "WARN" others! Keep up the great videos, and thanks again....
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If you have any trouble with rotating your handlebars around, just let me know in the comments. I will try my best to help you out.
I can’t get the Phillips head screw to move. First step a bust- don’t want to strip it. What’s the secret?
@@clarkdjgac Hi Debbie, the Phillips screw has loctite on it and can be hard to turn. Make sure you are using a good quality #2 Phillips screwdriver.
If you just can't turn it, you can use a 6mm Allen wrench with a tight J bend and get underneath the latch to loosen the bolt.
The 6mm bolt is also very tight, that's why I undo the Phillips screw and get the folding latch out of the way.
Let me know if you are still struggling and I will try my best to help.
Last resort would be to take it to your nearest bike shop and nicely ask if they could help you out.
@@mugmurray6483 I don't know for sure. I don't have a Lite. Sorry
I don't think this works for the xp lite. I did this and can't get the stem to rotate.
To loosen is it to the left or the right
I just rotated my handlebars and stem and now my e-bike is a perfect size for me! Thanks so much! If any of you out there has the XP Lite, you don't need to remove the screw and access the bolt in the centre of the stem. I still loosened that bolt and found that the stem would not turn on the XP Lite. I did find 2 bolts gripping the side area of the stem which I used the same P-handle wrench that I used to loosen the bolt in the centre of the stem but I tightened that one up since it didn't make any difference in turning the stem. After I loosed the bolts on the side of the stem, it was easy to turn like he did in the video. I tightened the bolts after turn the stem around and did the same as he did for the handlebars and the bike is not perfect for my size and I'm around 4 foot 10 inches tall.
LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!!!!! Thank you SO much. My 5'11" son was being tortured by the handle bar angle. I followed your tweaks on PWP's video and between the two, got the whole thing done in under 15 minutes much to the ecstatic delight of my son who FINALLY now has confidence to ride the XP LIte without his center of balance being WAY too far forward. And we have even been able to shorten the handle bar height from the max of "0" to the next notch down "1". VERY appreciative.
Thank you for sharing the other method. I just bought a Lectric XP Lite 2.0 and was able to flip it 180 degrees with just loosing 2 bolts gripping the side area of the stem. Very easy to do. My son loves the new setup! Thank you so much!
Recently purchased a lectric XP 3.0 step thru. Came across your video on rotating the handlebars (yesterday 04.14.2023) next day did the deed. World of difference, 4.0". Easier on the back and wrists on this ol 78 y/o. THx again for the video.
For me, being 5' 2", rotating the handlebars increase the comfort of the ride immensely. I liked riding before but now I LOVE it. Thank you for all your videos
This would be a great idea for my 4'10" wife with her shorter arms. Thank you for the idea 👍😎👍
Chris, thanks so much for doing this. You are the 1st person to address these ugly handlebars and offer a solution. I want this bike for my wife but I knew it would be a reach for her to grasp the handlebars and feel connected and comfortable riding her 1st E-bike. You saved me a lot of decision making and watching an endless amount of reviews. By the way not one person answered me back about replacing these handlebars but you did and I thank you.
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Great information, but if you apply this to the XP 3.0 you will need to add another step. In addition to the hex in the stem, there is an additional “collar” around the stem and you will need to loosen the 2 additional bolts in the collar. These were put in with blue thread lock so it is helpful to have an impact drill to loosen them. (Rob)
How much of a difference did it make?
@@finallythere100a huge difference for me
I just got on my new XP 2.0 step-through tonight and the first thing I thought was “WOW, wish those handlebars tilted back just a bit!” Haha THANK YOU!!!
You've done a great job clearly explaining how to do this. For the first time since I got my bike in August I can actually sit on that cushy seat. There are no stability problems up to full speed. Instead of removing that phillips head screw (could not loosen it with several screwdriver tips) etc, I removed the lower portion of the hinge with two allen wrenches. What I did seemed easier. I wasn't even aware you could reverse the handlebar until I found your video. Have been passing this link to others when they complain about their reach. Thanks again.
Thanks Jay, this can really help if you're having trouble reaching the handlebars.
DUDE - I literally gasped out loud when you removed the top bracket then were able to spin the actual handles around. LOL. Changed my life. Sincere thanks,
Signed,
A short person who loves her new bike but is sad the handlebars are in the next county. ;)
Just swapped position on 3 bikes. Biggest improvement in bike comfort yet. Thank you for demonstrating the ease of stem reversal. Easypeasy, well worth the minor effort required. So much more comfortable on shoulders and arms. This mod combined with the freewheel swap make the bike more comfortable to ride and more like my other bikes. Thanks for all you do. Thumbs up!!
Thanks Joey, glad it helped! 👍
Just did this to my 3.0. Made a huge difference in my reach for the grips! My fingers would go numb and my wrists would hurt after only a mile or two. I tried everything! Hoping this helps! Thank you so much!
UPDATE: found the handlebars were too close for stopping & starting, so I reversed the stem back & ordered new handlebars.
Just got our two lectric XP 2.0 bikes. After the first ride my wife complained about the handles "being too far away". So after I made the changes you showed, my wife is a VERY happy camper. Thank you.
THank you sooo much! I have struggled with wrist pain/pressure and feeling like I was slipping forward off my seat until my husband flipped my handlebars…this is a game changer. He did have double the number of bolts than your video showed, but it still worked!
Did the reverse today on my XPremimum. Going for a ride tomorrow. I'm going to love this mod.
Loved the video. I did discover an important shortcut for this excellent video! If you use a hex socket on a socket wrench you will not need to deal with the small clamp / Phillips head screw at all. The hex socket / socket wrench fits UNDER the clamp - plus, the socket wrench makes light work of that very tight fork bolt. The hex sockets are available at all the discount tool big box stores for about $10 for a set. (which has all the 4mm you need as well) . Make sure you are getting the metric set. Again, fantastic video, very well done - hope this hack makes it even better. Thanks!
Loved your hex socket hack. Was finally able to get it loose and do the rotation. Thank you for posting this.
The other day I rotated the handlebars on my XP2. All by myself...not bad for a 72 year old
biking gal. I removed the lower portion of the hinge with 2 Allen wrenches as suggested by
Jay P. Tiny little phillips head screws and I don't get along well. I love riding my bike now. Thank You for the information.
Thanks so much for this video. My only problem was in trying to remove that Phillips head screw. You did mention it was a "funny" screw. I decided to leave it alone, but had to use the "L" shaped wrench to get to the 6mm bolt. Since I didn't have the leverage with the preferred Park Tool, I took my rubber mallet and hit the smaller wrench a few times to loosen it up. I was a success. Turning around the handlebars is a game changer for me. I have learned so much from you. Also, your video on adjusting the derailleur on my XP 2.0 saved me. You're the BEST!
Great video explaining both how to do the mod and what the mod does to the folding. I'd love to have the handlebars a bit closer - I do not like to lean forward even a little when riding a bicycle as it tends to hurt my back on longer rides - but as we are going to use the XPs folded up in an RV and need them to take up as little space as possible unfortunately this mod will not work for us. Thank you for including the folding part at the end, it saved us a lot of hassle finding it out by ourselves!
Appreciate the video. Reversed the stems on two XP 2.0 bikes and love the difference. I fold and store in the 45-Quart storage containers, and they fit nicely. I snap pipe foam insulation on the rear carrier rack on the side that touches the front fork shock when folded. Nothing else touches or rubs. I remove the handlebars with the quick release and then fold the stem down. The handle bars fit between the bike rear tires (handlebar is vertical and handlebar stem is horizontal) and the brake handles and electronic power switch all fit inside the container. I also place pipe insulation on the stem of the removed handlebars, and this prevents rubbing against the wheel spokes. Happy to announce that rotating the stem does not prevent compact storage in these containers. I can also insert the battery charge cable (on a slight angle with care) and it still inserts while the bikes are folded. You can also just partially open the stem hinge and use the L-part of a regular allen wrench without removing any latch parts.
Thanks for posting the comment! It will surely help others 👍
Please post a picture of your folded up bike with the pipe insulation padding. And thank you
@@sh-zm7xl I also placed a length of pipe insulation on the handlebar riser. Have picture don't know how to post it!
@@PedalWithPower Can you post a picture here if I make it available? Picture of reversed stem bike inside 45-quart container.
Yes have picture will travel.
I'm definitely going to try this. The front of the seat hurts my groin when pedaling even though it's a heavily padded seat. I'm hoping by sitting more upright I won't get that groin pain.
A little tip from an old DIYer.
For those who are using a regular 6mm allen wrench you may find that it's a bit short so you can't get enough leverage to turn the bolt. No problem. If you put an appropriately sized socket on the end of the allen wrench with an extension you can gain a lot of leverage to turn that 6mm bolt easily.
I had 2 more screws that I had to loosen before I was able to spin the handlebars,
Thanks Jay for video. The shortened reach really helped my wife. My only change from your instructions was I could get on the post allen screw without having to take the extra pieces out. I did both of ours in about 20 minutes. You were very helpful.
Thanks Larry. For this tutorial I just wanted to be sure folks would be able to tighten the 6mm bolt back up. It's harder to reach without removing the latch but doable.
Thank you!!!!! Following your terrific instructions, I just did this modification to both of our Lectric 2.0 eBikes in under an hour. I used a ratchet with the Allen wrench attachment to loosen the screw to turn the post, and didn't have to deal with that little Phillips head. Again, thank you!
Good to hear Richard! Glad it helped 👍
I wish that I had seen this video before I purchased and installed a little longer and swept back "mustache bars" that only gave me an extra 2" towards the rider. The solution that you provided with this video is something that I never considered. Thank You !!! Headed to the garage and bike now.
Thanks, hope it helps! 👍
T hank you, that has confirmed what I have done yesterday, it ha so improved my riding position, I am now sitting more upright without pain in my hands and arms. Some folks suggested this could not be done. My bike is quite different but most details transfer. Thanks, I could not see why this would not work. very happy with new sitting position.
That's wonderful, I'm glad it helped! It's your bike, you get to ride it your way 😀👍
Youridea is excellent. The problem with the handlebar is easily resolved by removing the handlebars from the height adjuster!
Thanks for sharing the tip, Dennis! I figured that out after making this video. I'll have to mention it in another video.
Found the critical thinker in the group
Thank you! At 5’1”, I needed this!
Thank you so much for this. Was thinking of spending money to replace the handle bar for a shorter reach. So glad I found your video! You just saved me a couple of bucks and made my biking more comfortable.
I needed this. I’m a left arm amputee and wear a prosthetic arm when I ride. The fake arm doesn’t allow shoulder extension like normal and the reach to the handlebars is a big deal for me. This modification will save me money and make the bike much more comfortable to ride. Thank ya very much! ❤
I did this for my son works great
Chris - Easy Peasy Nice and EASY” as my 9 year old grandson would say. With your excitement video took about 20 min. Haven the cloud 9 seat on it now. Wife’s new Selle Royal Brown Drifter goes on her Ancheer tomorrow. I’m now hoping the Cloud 9 doesn’t work like I think so I can change to the Drifter. Note: the screw ended up staying in the sloe so made it super easy. Great job thanks.
Thank you for this video. It is the best video ever on RUclips. I am short and I needed the handlebars closer. This was perfect. Easy to follow instructions. Thank you again.
I just did this and although ideally it wouldn't move it as close as it did, it has relieved the discomfort in my hands and wrists. You may wish to remove the part that the screw goes through as mine fell off when doing the adjustment.
Thanks for the great tutorial.
Great tip!
I always thought the handlebar placement was akward.
Can't wait to adjust them.
Well done video. I like how you explain each detail clearly.
No problem, glad it helps!
Fantastic!! I was looking to change the handle bars, but now I know I can reverse them. I don't fold often at all so this works!
You've made me feel like even I can do this! Thanks so much for being a good teacher!
Congratulations Chris, I have NEVER subscribed to a youtube channel before but this quick, easy and free mod completely changed my XP. As soon as I did it everything fell into place. I was sitting completely upright and the handlebars were right where my arms naturally rest. The ride is not as squirrely as it used to be either. I thought I was going to have to change to different handlebars to achieve this but I didn't want to change the angle of the grips in doing so. This was the perfect solution and I can't thank you enough!
Here is the official Lectric stance on the reverse stem idea shown in this video. "At this time, this modification would not be Lectric approved. However, please note that you are able to switch out to an after-market handlebar without voiding the warranty."
Thanks for the info
@@PedalWithPowerI'm over 66, recently bought 2 new XP Lites. I wouldn't change anything myself. It's designed to be used the way it is. I modify nothing, I do add factory racks and saddlebags. I still have 11 months of warranty left.
Thanx. Great tip for those of us with shorter arms. Good video quality too. 4/21/22.
No worries Douglas 👍I had a lot of folks asking about how to do this on the Facebook Owner's group. Hope it Helps!
Thank you for showing us how to do this. It is the best idea to shorten the reach without having to buy any parts. Great job on the tutorial.
Thank you so much for this video - it was easy to follow and because of it my bike is far more comfortable to ride :)
Thank you so much for posting this video! I followed your procedure to adjust my XP 3.0, and the fit is now SO much better. A couple of things were different (have to loosen 2 bolts below the stem to twist it around, and 4 bolts holding down the handlebars instead of 2). Now I just need to figure out if I can make the brake levers a bit closer to the handlebars so I don't have to stretch my hands so much to squeeze them.
Hi, May I recommend some Blue Loctite on that bolt array.
Thanks for the video. i will be doing this. Just found your channel, now I will have to binge watch to cath-up on all the XP videos.
Thank you for making this video. I just got a new 750w folding electric bike and the first test spin was difficult because the handlebars are crooked and I couldn't figure out how to line them up. Also, I might try flipping them around to make the reach less far.
Thank you for your clear explanation. It wasn't obvious to me that there was a way to do this before your post, it is kind of concealed. I may have to do this for my wife's new Lectric XP 3.0, which is on order, as she is petite and I want to make sure the bike is optimized for her comfort.
If you do this on a 3.0, there are 2 additional steps needed. You will also need a 2.5 mm and 5 mm hex wrench in addition to those mentioned in the video. There is a set screw on the side of the Phillips head screw the requires a 2.5 mm hex to loosen before you can take out the Phillips head screw that holds the stem folding mechanism. There are also 2 hex bolts on a collar around stem that will need to be loosened with a 5 mm wrench before you can rotate the stem.
Thanks! I just did this modification, it was pretty quick and easy, the bike will be a lot more comfortable for her now! She is pretty petite and at 5' 2", it was quite a stretch to reach the handlebars as delivered, she found it very fatiguing. It is worth the minor folding complications!
i found the lectic 2.0 extremely uncomfortable out of the box. by switching out the handlebars with BMX bars from a bike from goodwill and a set back seat stem from amazon, put the peddles forward.
now i will spin the stem 180 and i will now have a foldable comfort bike.
lectic 2.0 is a good bike but needs tweaked. awesome video
This worked fantastic!! Did my wifes last year and mine today. Thanks again
I rotated my handlebars today. It is an improvement while riding. But stopping and starting are much more difficult as there is not enough space between seat and handlebars to allow easy movement when getting on and getting off. The angle of the stem is a little too extreme.
Loved the video! Made the handle bars feel much more comfortable. Loved the bike before, but after this I am much happier with the setup.
Thanks a bunch. Glad it helped! 👍
Thank you. I wanted to change the bars, now I ca just turn them around- brilliant!!!
Glad I could help!
Chris top shelf videos actual real world . Tomorrow I flip the bars around and your video is really good. I can certainly live with any folding issues. I’ve had my bike for a month and a half but I’ve only been able to look at it because of prostate issues however I think I have found the seat but if anybody knows of any other solution for no pressure seat I am open. I found a seat I’m going to try a cloud nine with a relaxed area but if I have to go to the really expensive ones I will do it and I will let you know how that works out so that your channel can help other men and women with the same issue. But I thought I would ask you if you have any experience or have seen the real world one that works I would really appreciate that. Thanks again for sharing your expertise with us.
The Selle Royal saddle will help a lot. I look into other seats as well
I don’t have a lectric, but I have a similar build as this one. Great video! 👍🏾
I think the modification is great. I no longer feel like I'm on a "clown bike". The benefits are more comfortable handlebar reach, more comfortable posture, no tingly hands after 30 minutes, and more "typical bicycle" maneuverability--just a better bike profile and a more enjoyable ride. Just yesterday a ride of 45 minutes followed later by a ride of 30 minutes. The backwards slope of the handlebar stem makes better use of shock absorbing forks and allows better handlebar height. The cons are there's less room to stand between the seat and the handlebars when mounting/dismounting the bike, but that's a very small portion of the riding experience. And of course, it doesn't fold as compactly. But I have found, as I imagine others have, that I don't fold the bike often and when I do it's a pain! I keep wondering, does the mod do anything to compromise safety or the rest of the design of the bike. Maybe a "bike engineer" could comment.
I'm glad it helps you ride better! Just make sure the 6mm Allen bolt is really tight and there is no safety issue. 👍
Great information. Answered precisely my questions. Thanks! ⚡️✨💫
A wide basket on the front rack could prevent compact folding?.....................elsullo
@@elsullo2 true
Thanks!
This worked well for me. Be advised, the handling will be slightly changed. I also think it looks cooler.
Glad it helped, and yes, it will handle a bit differently. More chill and laid back
Thanks a lot for the great details. This will help my daughter, who is short. The Lectric Lite would have fit her perfectly.
No problem N J👍 Hope it helps!
OMG You may have just solved the very problem I've been wrestling with since I bought my bike, can't wait to try this, thanks so much!! 👍🏼
My wife will love me after I perform this mod on her new ST!
thank you very much for your own idea to shorten the handle bar.
You're welcome, Xue. Thanks for watching!
You are a wealth of info on these Lectric bikes, appreciate all the vids you share... p.s you have a bit of a Norm MacDonald sound to you 😄
Thanks for all these videos! Super helpful
Thank you for this video! I change it and made some adjustment to me seat. I took a 1 hour joy ride, it felt like a different bike.
Some much better. I appreciate your time and tips on this. This was very helpful!
Thanks! I always felt like like I was awkwardly reaching for the handlebars when setting upright. I see that it messes with the folding aspect, but it turns out I don't fold my Lectric hardly ever, as it's already awkward enough without customizations to bear hug and carry onto a bus with me. I know. I tried it. I had to sit in handicap seating. Luckily it was an empty enough bus.
If you do need to fold it, you can pull the handlebars out completely and set them between the wheels
I just finished up this insulation. I can say with swept back handlebars it really limits the space. Not sure I'm going to go back to the stock handlebars though as it's a lot of work to transfer everything over. I just wish I would've known about this fix/mod before I bought my swept back handlebars.
It's definitely much more comfortable. I ended up stripping out the bolt that goes into the fork, so be forewarned China is not exactly well known for its alloys. I wanted to get it really snug, but it strips easily, and I was using a precision set of Allen sockets. Of course I was also torquing on it with a three eights drive. Anyway, just be careful not to overdo it like I did
Thanks for the feedback Troy! Yes, stripping out bolts = 😖
If you think the original handlebars will be better long term, it'll be worth the time to switch. I tried out 4 different handlebars on my Haibike before finding my happy place.
@@PedalWithPower when you are referring to 'original handlebars' are you speaking of this video? Or, did you mean 'original position'?
@@VideoImagesByTrig Just replying to @Troy D. He said he switched his handlebars to "swept-back" style handlebars.
If you rotate the stem and use swept-back handlebars, it is going to be a tight fit.
Thank you, very helpful video, now my husband is trying to adjust the bike for me.
What a GREAT idea - Thanks! Going to do this asap!
Good job explaining how to rotate handle bar post. I switched out the handle bar for a 2 1/2" less reach Moto cross handle bar in blue aluminum. Now the wife would like me to switch her post around too.
Thanks Gordon, the blue handlebar sounds pretty cool! I bet that's looks great
Where did you order these blue Moto cross handlebars? Any other items to order? Are they tapered toward rider 2 1/2"?
Thanks for that it made a huge difference. Now I can sit more comfortably.
Thank you so much
I finally did this to my bike. Should have done it along time ago. My not worried about how the bars fold afterwards. I found the bike handles far better at slow speed turns, far less tendency for it to want to high side you. Plus it looks a little less “clown bike” with the stem slanted towards the rider.
Great video and the toughest part of the job was breaking the bolts loose from the loctite. Also, by using just a regular allen wrench instead of a long one, I was able to get at the 6mm bolt without dismantling anything. I just finished but I'm pretty sure it's going to be more comfortable with not having my arms straight while riding.
Thanks for this instructional video! It worked perfectly on my Gosen Q7!
Will not do this, but an excellent teaching, demo, and good work!!
I will most definitely be trying this mod on my wife's 2.0. Thank you.
Excellent step by step. Thank you!
Don't forget to use Loctite (blue) on the threads as you reassemble the bike parts. Don't know if they use it at the factory, but Loctite can save your butt whenever you're assembling / reassembling things that move.
You're a genius! My neck and shoulders thank you!
so, this is a great tip. i love the bike but the geometry is not very friendly for me. this will help me to not have to reach so far from the high seat position i must use... one of the comments also referred to a bmx setback seat stem. that would also help to provide an overall lower center of gravity; yay! also, to mention the awkward (not really) new folding position isn't an issue if you remove the adjustable handlebar height assembly from it's stem (which i do, anyway.) thank you for a great mod
Thanks a bunch! I agree about removing the handlebars, I didn't think of that when I made the video. Great Tip!
With regards to getting the levers and triggers back to the correct side, I believe you can just rotate the straight upper height-adjustable section back 180° at the end. I’m sure the upper tube spins independently of the lower section on this type?
Will you please provide a tutorial on the XP 3.0. Thanks
Thank you. You did an excellent job.
Very nice of you to say, Tom! I try to keep improving
The phillips screw was on too tight and I was afraid of stripping it. I used two 3mm hex wrenches and undid the bolt at the hinge instead.
Love ur vids man. Easy to follow. Great job 👍
Now that you made this video on turning the bike stem around, witch was great. Now when or will you make a video of you riding your bike after the change? Thank you.
Thanks for watching Lorenzo. I don't ride with the handlebars turned around. I'm 6'4" and even with the handlebars forward, it's a pretty short reach for me.
I just made this video for folks that wanted to know how to do this.
@@PedalWithPower Ok thanks for the explanation.
@@lorenzoalmendarez8506 Anytime
@@PedalWithPower Thanks for adding your height details. I'm 6'3" and looking at doing this for my wife who is much shorter but your comment answers my own question on if this is worth doing or not for myself and my height, which it's not. Thank you for the great idea and video!
@@jaythomas2246 No problem Jay, glad it helps and thank you for watching!
this is awesome I got a gotrax but iam going to try this tomorrow if it works you just saved me so money thank for a well done video
Thanks Dean, let me know if it works 👍
well it took only seconds to rotate my stem 😊. I had one allen screw to loosen the rest were Quick connections. bike is like yours as far as folding but that's ok .I have alot better reach now thanks for the video you saved my day and some money 😊
@@goldbearbunny4787 Awesome, great job! Good to hear!
I think riding in comfort and more control (for us shorter peeps) would out way the fact it folds differently...
Agreed Chris, doesn't matter how it folds if you can't ride it
One of the problems for me on the xp is the pedals are not forward enough because my knees have poor range of motion. I think with a bmx setback seatpost and your idea of changing the handlebar stem will solve my ergonomic issues with my knees. Thank you for posting.
Hope it'll help you make it fit. There's always a way 👍
Try moving the seat
Thank you much I just did mine. Your the best.
Thank you so much for a very well done and informative vid on the XP!
No problem. Hope it helps if you need to rotate your bars.
Okay, love the T-shirt! Great instructions.
Great video. I was wondering how you’re measuring the handlebar reach? 26” was longer than I expected. My current ebike reach is 19” and I’m looking for something shorter. I think that’s measured from the front of the seat to the handlebars.
😊😊😊 i have the GoCity bike..I wonder..Thanks for the know how...
We have two of the Lectric 2.0 XPst bikes. I was uncomfortable with the forward reach and had actually bought a casting that moved the handlebars about 2" rearward.
I had never realized that just by loosening a big bolt the stem could be rotated. Yesterday I did this process and the result is WONDERFUL. No more leaning forward; lots easier on my aging wrists and hands.
Two caveats:
(1) No need to remove philips screw. You are able to gain access to the large stem bolt with an allen wrench. Be advised that the big bolt is REALLY torqued down. I was afraid I would break my wrench in loosening it! All you need is about 1/4 turn to be able to rotate the stem around. Make sure you re-tighten the bolt.
(2) The big issue with this modification is that the handlebars fold completely differently, messing up the original outside-fold. However, I have found I can collapse my bike to be even smaller than the factory original by first removing the seat, then folding the bike, then removing the handlebars, then folding the steering stem, and finally using a couple of bungees to secure the handlebars to the rear carrier, securing the wheels to each other in the process. Then you can replace the seat. Folded bike is now narrower than original. All it takes is a couple of extra steps!
Can't see any problem with steering at all. I think it's the steering fork angle that matters, and that hasn't changed.
Thanks for the info! I just recommended removing the Phillips screw so that folks could really torque that 6mm bolt back down. Got to get it tight! 👍
It does fold down differently, though.
Great commenting!
Super helpful. Your knowledge of the Lectric bike is amazing. Thanks for sharing. New subscriber 😀
Great info but couldn’t get past step One….the tiny Philips bolt will not budge. Any advice? 😢
Hi, thank you for your intuitive demonstration! If you get a moment, and I know this is off topic, and I apologize for that. My question is; Can you power up the Lectric 2.0 without the key in it? I had 2 of these bikes, loved them both, but I never tried to see if this was possible, I just assumed like most probably do, that without the key it wouldn't power up.
I just received a different ebike with the same electronics, and frame like the Lectric 2.0, and it does power up "without" the key in it!
So if the Lectric 2.0 does the same thing, it might worth making a video to "WARN" others!
Keep up the great videos, and thanks again....
Thank you so much! Your videos are so helpful!
Thank you for solving my reach problem!