Listening to Caravan: In The Land Of Grey And Pink, Part 2

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @DaveSinclairMusic2
    @DaveSinclairMusic2 Год назад +22

    Hi Jim, this is Dave Sinclair's son Nic. Cheers for listening to the Grey and Pink album and my dad's Nine Feet Underground, good to know many fans are still out there and new ones are discovering Caravan. There is now an interview video on our channel that details how he created the keyboard sound with his Hammond A-100 organ and how Nine Feet Underground came to be. Also... my dad and I just launched a crowdfund campaign to revive that very same Hammond organ, that gave early Caravan it's unique sound. May it live another 50 years and inspire the next generation 🙂Best wishes

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  Год назад +3

      Hey Nic, hi Dave. Delighted and amazed to hear from you! I’m super happy to be a small part of that process of allowing the music to live on. I’d love to have a chat with you one day, and again, thank you for visiting my channel! Good luck with the campaign 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @Ralphs-House
      @Ralphs-House Год назад +3

      Name anyone who DOESN'T love it Nic. I've lost count of the people I've known over the last 50 odd years who have bought it wholly after hearing it at mine. None of us know exactly why but its incredibly upbeat. Such talent!!!! My son (19) fell in love with this album aged 10.

    • @morgandevries15
      @morgandevries15 10 месяцев назад +2

      I hope you know his music is very appreciated. I can’t stop listening to caravan these last few years. I hope other young people like myself find there way into this music. Tell Dave he has inspired me greatly and many others no doubt with his unique playing.

    • @lincolnsixecho51
      @lincolnsixecho51 9 месяцев назад +1

      Hi, Nic! I hope you're all right and just like to tell you, that the fantastic music of your dad and CARAVAN is still alive in germany! I'm one of a group of "hard-core-fans" of what is usely called the "Canterbury scene". We're living in different places all over germany and concentrate on the music of bands like CARAVAN, HATFIELD & THE NORTH, NATIONAL HEALTH, SOFT MACHINE, the different projects of Kevin Ayers, Robert Wyatt and many others. We try to keep the spirit of their awesome sound and everything around it alive and to interest younger music fans here for it!
      The flame's still burning!!
      Lots of love and best wishes, ❤🎶🎵
      To Jim: A very big thank you for the presentation of this great album!! Good job!! Well done, man!!
      Lincoln and 'Canterbury friends' from germany

    • @DaveSinclairMusic2
      @DaveSinclairMusic2 9 месяцев назад

      @@lincolnsixecho51 Thanks, all best to you

  • @hifibrony
    @hifibrony 4 месяца назад +2

    Marvelous album and "Nine Feet Underground" is one of my very favorite side-long pieces. Right up there with Floyd's "Echoes." "Disassociation" is absolutely gorgeous.

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  4 месяца назад +1

      It’s fabulous isn’t it?!

  • @Yudentheepicboy
    @Yudentheepicboy 3 месяца назад

    I dont like ive ever heard a 20 minute prog epic that is this much fun to listen to. Seriously, this thing is just nonstop groove. Easy 10/10. And even if the first 17 minutes or so wasn't the greatest, that final transition makes the entire listen worth it

  • @dianeschneider9129
    @dianeschneider9129 Месяц назад +1

    WOW!! Listened to this for the first time after watching your A-Z prog list. Sorry sometimes I miss your videos. This is marvelous!!

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  Месяц назад

      Absolutely brilliant isn’t it?!

  • @Warloo100
    @Warloo100 2 года назад +3

    One of my all-time favourites since ages. They still play it as final piece on their concerts and its still alive and kickin'.

  • @dab42bridges80
    @dab42bridges80 2 года назад +2

    Who needs a lead guitar when you have such an amazing keyboard player? Just let him carry you away. I had the privilege to see them several times live in the UK. Canterbury Rock at its finest.

  • @clansome
    @clansome 2 года назад +3

    End of the 60's to the end of the 70's was when I was teen and it was FANTASTIC. You talk about warmth etc and that would correspond with the end of the Analog recording era which says a lot about recording processes.

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I know what the difference of. I mourn that sound. I have no doubt that some of the more modern records I have would have sounded a million times better had they been recorded with all analogue equipment.

  • @chrissilverhand1
    @chrissilverhand1 2 года назад +2

    Meandering was part of the Canterbury sound, it's part of it's charm.

  • @TheSealords
    @TheSealords 2 года назад +2

    Do not stop there. For Girls who grow Plump in the Night is outstanding, as is their Symphonia album when they fuse with an orchestra. Then on to blind Dog at St. Dunstans...just keep going!

  • @RayRay-ot5xd
    @RayRay-ot5xd 2 года назад +2

    Remarkable that their second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth albums had side long songs. It’s hard for me to pick a favorite, but if I had to chose it would be this and it’s mainly because I melt when I hear Richard sing towards the end, just beautiful! Great review!

  • @matweb8195
    @matweb8195 2 года назад +3

    It took a long time for me to fully appreciate this album, but I persevered with multiple playings and have come to love it. Sometimes these things take time don't they.

  • @stealthracer
    @stealthracer 2 месяца назад

    Never saw them live but once saw a band called Mirage, which consisted of some members of Camel and some of Caravan and performed songs by both. Camel is another band you really need to hear (my favourite of all time.)

  • @TurnFullCircle
    @TurnFullCircle 2 года назад

    Agree….the sound is of an age that has passed us by….I cannot say how good it is to hear this again and your giving it some air time is fantastic..cheers

  • @nectarinedreams7208
    @nectarinedreams7208 2 года назад +5

    I think their 1970 album is every bit as good as this. Both masterpieces.

    • @luton_gmanrock
      @luton_gmanrock Год назад

      BIT PSYCHEDELIC

    • @landesart
      @landesart Год назад

      I even prefer their „If I could…“ album due to its quirkiness and magic 😄

  • @parshakamarsh
    @parshakamarsh 2 года назад +2

    I've really enjoyed listening to this album with you, it's one of my all time favourites, great choice whoever nominated it. I saw them live 4 times in the early to mid 70's, even better than on record, which is how it should be! Another great album by Caravan is "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night". Quite a different sound to this record, but absolutely brilliant in its own right, hope you can pick it up sometime, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it!

  • @cohalensadventures5331
    @cohalensadventures5331 2 года назад +1

    They were phenomenal live! Like Gentle Giant - live was where they thrived.

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 2 года назад +1

    I was in primary school when this came out. I wasn’t into music that much then. I discovered this record in my mid teens. Me and a few friends bought a few records each month, if possible the outlet ones because we didn’t have much to spend. Every few weeks we would come together and listen to what we bought; you hear a lot of different kinds of music this way. That’s where I heard this record, loved it and not long after I bought it.

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  2 года назад +1

      Well, I was 51 when I first heard this. I started a RUclips channel and get lots of suggestions and recommendations of things to listen to. I hear lots of different music this way!!! I always end up buying it!

    • @palantir135
      @palantir135 2 года назад

      @@JimNewstead i would have been easier to get to know new music if we had internet then. But now I do and I got to know more new bands in a few years than in my whole youth back then. So I thank you and other reviewers (JP) for this.
      Good night, it’s bedtime for me. 00:30h

  • @Warloo100
    @Warloo100 2 года назад +2

    Jim, do yourself a favour and listen to their New Symphonia - absolutely great.
    By the way, Caravan are on tour in the UK in fall this year. Listen to them as long as this is still possible, they are quite ged by now.

  • @kld2493
    @kld2493 2 года назад +2

    In 1976 my mate Mick and I played out new records for a first time reviewing. He had 🌈 rising and I had this. Being a Margate lad I thought I would check out the local band. PS this may not be your favourite if you have For Girls who....I like them all.

  • @messagepr
    @messagepr 2 года назад +2

    I never get tired of this track

  • @runciblemoon1194
    @runciblemoon1194 2 года назад +6

    "For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night" should absolutely be your next Caravan spin for the channel. It immediately follows "Waterloo Lily" but it sort of splits the difference between the very jazz-forward approach on that album and the more psychedelic/poppy leanings on "Grey and Pink". It's also my personal favourite album from their entire discography. Not a weak moment on the whole thing IMO.
    PS - Very excited to see what's lurking in that mammoth record haul!

    • @parshakamarsh
      @parshakamarsh 2 года назад +2

      Couldn't agree more, it's a superb album 👍🏼

  • @FireMunki63
    @FireMunki63 2 года назад +1

    Watching Dave program his sounds into keyboards was one of the great joys I ever experienced. Seeing how his musical brain worked was another. An intense yet private person the man is an utter musical genius. Much like side 2 of Cunning Stunts this is one of Dave's true Magnum Opuses. Sheer brilliance the sounds he eeks out of his Hammond and other keys. yes all of it is David Sinclair on keys. He is one of the true greats especially when you consider the original keyboard lines he chooses musically and just incredible when underpinned by his cousin Richards bass lines :)

    • @FireMunki63
      @FireMunki63 2 года назад +1

      I believe Dave used an Orange Fuzz Box pedal to create part of his original sound on this album. Could be wrong but seem to remember him mentioning something about it back in the past.

    • @FireMunki63
      @FireMunki63 2 года назад +1

      I have literally experienced Dave turning up without rehearsal in the long distant past off a plane in Italy and arriving for soundcheck, only doing a short sound check then going off to eat and relax before playing detailed pieces like this without any stress and even dealing with sound issues at the same time live without dropping a note. Seriously this guy is an absolute musical genius. Individuals like him eat sleep and breathe music in their blood.

  • @petertaylorson5783
    @petertaylorson5783 Год назад +1

    Check out their previous album 'If i Could Do it Again, I'd Do it All Over You'. Another masterpiece imo. Outstanding live band Jim, in both this incarnation and throughout the 70's. bassist and vocalist Richard Sinclair would go on to form Hatfield and the North who's 'Rotters Club' album i highly recommend.

  • @James-dt7ky
    @James-dt7ky 11 месяцев назад +1

    I see the Patrick Moraz album "I" there. I haven't heard that one in decades.

  • @2wayplebney
    @2wayplebney 2 года назад +1

    This and many other UK recordings in the 70's were made using analog equipment, ie valves. In the USA, however they were switching to transistorised gear, which is one of the reasons why CSN&Y recordings don't sound as warm as this.

  • @garybeaudette4208
    @garybeaudette4208 2 года назад +1

    What a great album, i picked up the 40th anniversary edition with the Steven Wilson remix and the booklet did say that the song was recorded in five distinct sections and edited by David Hitchcock and Dave Grinsted.

  • @TheSealords
    @TheSealords 2 года назад +1

    And if you can find a copy of Renaissance - Ashes are Burning, you won't be disappointed.

  • @richardrawles6789
    @richardrawles6789 2 года назад +1

    'Memory Lane Hugh' and 'The Dog the dog he's at it again' were on the set list of their last tour, both tracks from Plump in the night. I totally concur with runciblemoon that you should take For Girls who grow plump in the night as your next Caravan reaction.

  • @brunhildeschutt7636
    @brunhildeschutt7636 Год назад

    Glad to find the Album again, 🎶🎵😊
    And you also realy like it 😁

  • @gabiesiren
    @gabiesiren 2 года назад +1

    good morning Jim, what a nice way to wake up ! I saw that you've added a bunch of records on your discogs collection! thanks for the good music !

  • @kld2493
    @kld2493 2 года назад +1

    When I saw Caravan this year in Leeds they played Golf Girl, Winter Wine and finished with Nine feet Underground. The spoon solo in Golf Girl is legend. Also Geoffrey Richardson dispelled the myth that they are from Canterbury. They live in Sussex!!!!

    • @DaveSinclairMusic2
      @DaveSinclairMusic2 2 года назад

      Dave and Richard Sinclair were born in the area before settling in Canterbury, the older generation settled there in the late 1800s from Ireland, ran a renowned photography studio and later public houses. Mike Ratledge, Brian / Hugh Hopper, Kevin Ayers and Richard Coughlan were local to. Pye, Geoffrey and Robert each came down to the area from elsewhere.

    • @kld2493
      @kld2493 2 года назад +1

      @@DaveSinclairMusic2 I suspect that you may know more than me. PS Dabsong Concerto is magic

    • @kld2493
      @kld2493 2 года назад +1

      @@DaveSinclairMusic2 I saw you in Canterbury Marlowe Theatre with Camel 🐪. Jan Sch..was also on the keys and Richard was on bass a Caravan takeover. Is that correct?

    • @DaveSinclairMusic2
      @DaveSinclairMusic2 2 года назад

      @@kld2493 Hi Keiron, yes Dave joined Camel for the 78/79 tours, didn't record anything with them, Richard had been in a little longer and so had Jan. Dave left after 79 and went back into Caravan. This sort of happened again this time with Pye and Dave but under the name of Mirage in 1994. Didn't last long though as the tour manager and dealings were not on board! Regards

  • @olalderh
    @olalderh Год назад +1

    This album continues to blow my mind every single time I listen to it. Definitely deserves more attention.

  • @SebGeddy
    @SebGeddy 2 года назад

    We all mistook those fuzzed organs for guitars at some point (Peter Bardens from Camel, Tony Banks from Genesis...) 🤣

  • @paulgreen4151
    @paulgreen4151 11 месяцев назад

    What an Excellent reaction love how you got so excited over the music Caravan is an excellent band there Transitions are so Smooth there all like a Bunch of Scientists bringing out a Weird and Wonderful way of life and you can like step out of the Hectic world we all need a break @ some point

  • @frankcallo6630
    @frankcallo6630 11 месяцев назад +1

    I see Patric Moraz "I", obscure, crazy cool. Do you have Rick Wakeman's 'No Earthly Connection" in that stack? Crazy thing about prog rock is how many bands/albums that do not come immediately to mind. I like those bands that lean more into Jazz that Classical but there is something for everyone. Nice to see a little love for prog.😊

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  11 месяцев назад

      Lots of love for the prog!

  • @actorJSB
    @actorJSB 2 года назад +1

    Had never heard of these guys prior to checking them out on a whim at the second (and sadly, final) High Voltage Festival in London, 2011. They only played 5 tracks, but this was the 5th of them and by then I was already utterly sold. Picked this album (and a few others) up soon after and seen them a few more times since. Only just nabbed an expanded 'New Symphonia' album for the princely sum of £1 on me hols, this has got me in the mood to spin that next as a matter of fact!

  • @m0ngo
    @m0ngo 6 месяцев назад

    I have not heard this before. I can hear a mix of Traffic and Camel in this - both favourites of mine. Wonderful stuff.

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head 2 года назад +1

    Notice how quickly you made your Part 2 to this one? 😃 And yes, Dave Sinclair is all over this. After working on the "composed" pieces that make up side one I imagine they had a surplus of jamming instrumental music that was put together to create this. They were smart to fit in a couple of the vocal songs to break up all of the "blowing". By the way, that sustained, fuzzed keyboard sound is tightly associated with the Canterbury scene. Mike Ratledge of Soft Machine is credited with coming up with it (he played a Lowrey organ early on, but it also worked on Hammonds, Vox Continentals or even Clavinets) and Dave Sinclair and Dave Stewart (Egg, Hatfield & the North, etc.) both made generous use of it. Tony Banks flirted with it briefly as well, when Genesis were between guitar players. Re: early live work, the best footage is from Montreaux in 1972 (after Dave Sinclair had left): ruclips.net/video/JRVh1baN3KY/видео.html

    • @DaveSinclairMusic2
      @DaveSinclairMusic2 2 года назад

      Little known that Dave Sinclair was at the heart of Richard Sinclair's tracks, finishing them and the arrangements plus solo work, which made those what they are. Meanwhile, he brought all the individual pieces that would make up Nine Feet Underground, from his basement flat in Canterbury to the band. The first piece 'Nigel Blows A Tune', having been inspired by a few chords that Dave's late cousin, Nigel Blow, had played him. The Decca producer, David Hitchcock, envisioned the pieces as a suite and crafted the means of recording them individually along with engineer David Grinsted and then bridging them together.... which should be recognised as quite the technical feat at that time.
      While sessions started at Decca Studios in West Hampstead, the band then were forced out by Decca's prominent interest in the Moody Blues and moved to Air Studios, which at that time was at the top floor of the now closed Topshop in Oxford Circus.
      Dave Sinclair also spent those early years with the Hammond A-100 organ (replacing his previous Vox), crafting that initial established Mike Ratledge sound, into something more. He added to the original burns buzzaround fuzz pedal he had, with a colorsound wah and wem copicat > other echo chambers. The Davolisint came next for the first bending notes by For Girls Who Grow Plump, as switching the A-100 on and off.. didn't do any good

  • @twelvemonkeys8786
    @twelvemonkeys8786 2 года назад

    You've done it again Jim. What a great reaction. Not heard this before.. Sorry neighbours 😂 👍🏻

  • @kenl2091
    @kenl2091 2 года назад +1

    Woo! The Patrick Moraz album alone is worth a tenner of anyone's money so you're well on your way to a profit (in musical terms at least) Meanwhile, Nine Feet Underground is on the list of prog's greatest epics and should be required listening for anyone with an interest in real music. Seen it done live on four occasions. Transcendental.

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  2 года назад

      You wait till you see what else is in there!

  • @mackymintle7806
    @mackymintle7806 2 года назад +1

    Suddenly swamped with Life Stuff…
    Missing all the good progginess!😩
    I’ll have to save to “watch later”.
    Hope all is well across the pond!

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  2 года назад

      Alls good thanks, for you get your head above water soon 🤞

  • @Elvin_Pelvin
    @Elvin_Pelvin 2 года назад

    Thank you Jim - this was my absolute favourite in the early 70s but I completely lost interest until I rediscovered it just a couple of years ago. In many ways in a similar vein - keyboard drenched and consisting of various segments segued together and sharing some of the same dynamics at least in the freak out bits you could try 'Moon in June' which is Robert Wyatt's side of Soft Machine's Third album*. David Sinclair teamed up with Robert Wyatt in Matching Mole after this LP when both had departed from their respective bands. Many disagree but I think Matching Mole were a case of the whole being less than the sum of the parts. (* though the recording is not quite so pristine)

  • @scifimonkey3
    @scifimonkey3 2 года назад +1

    Already anticipating Patrick Moraz’s Story of I.

  • @clansome
    @clansome 2 года назад +2

    0:33 Land of Grey & BLACK !!! LOL btw can hear Camel in there. Checking Wiki I see that Richard Sinclair (bass) joined Camel in 77 which is after The Snow Goose and Mirage but even though contemporaneous Caravan clearly influenced Camel. EDIT I also see that in 1978 Dave Sinclair (keyboards) and another member of Caravan joined Camel to replace the outgoing Pete Bardens.

    • @JimNewstead
      @JimNewstead  2 года назад +1

      Everyone’s allowed a little faux pas now and again!

    • @scifimonkey3
      @scifimonkey3 2 года назад +1

      @@JimNewstead although there is nothing monochrome about side 2! A real rainbow of music.

    • @yes_head
      @yes_head 2 года назад +1

      The period when Richard and Dave Sinclair passed through Camel is often referred to as the "Caramel" period. 😁

    • @clansome
      @clansome 2 года назад

      @@yes_head I remember that phrase being tossed around back in the day. All makes sense now.

  • @deanjgn666666
    @deanjgn666666 Год назад

    im tripping with you mate

  • @pormantu
    @pormantu Год назад

    No Gentle Giant or Soft Machine😢

  • @jeffschielka7845
    @jeffschielka7845 2 года назад +1

    😎

  • @simplesimon112
    @simplesimon112 4 месяца назад

    Land of grey and black? Hahaha

  • @stefanward670
    @stefanward670 10 месяцев назад

    I’ve listened to this album regularly for the last 25 years golf girl wot a tune.🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻