KTM 1290 Super Adventure R: Off-Road Test & First Ride - MVDBR Enduro
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to test ride the mighty KTM 1290, thanks to local supporter Andy who was generous enough to loan it to me for the day. My first time on one, I took the big v-twin through a range of varying terrain, with that 160hp stonker of an engine putting a massive grin on my face and causing the rear tyre some agonising pain. I almost got the big girl stuck, and finally dropped it in a creek bed - which was where I discovered that the fully fuelled weight of it was not much fun to pick up. Hope you enjoy this gumby review of a legendary bike! Get your MVDBR stubby coolers here: mvdbr.com/shop
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I'm the same Josh. Like my bikes simple, without the technical stuff. The wrist governs the response. Great review.
Cheers mate 🍻
People that dont usually do bike reviews do the best bike reviews
Thank you sir, guess I best not do too many then 😬 Appreciate it 🙏
Ohhhh man I’m so jelly what an experience to ride this big dawg bike ❤️❤️❤️❤️ yummm and shout at the adv22 for letting the legend get some seat time on her! Great review mate solid info and kept it entertaining that’s why your the best 🎉❤
Thanks JD 🙏 And yeh mad thanks to Andy for trusting me with it 😬😬
Thanks JD, was good for me to see Josh have a go on this bike. I don’t know to many people that have ridden a mates bike and not scratched it at some point. All good, shit happens.🤙
What a pearler of a bike,so much power in your right hand. Mate i felt your pain trying to struggle to get that big thing up . I think for traversing this country it'd be a perfect fit . Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Cheers 🍻
Definitely one of those bikes where it would be handy having a discount deal on tyres mate 😁 Cheers Mr Will 🍻
5:05 hey josh I'm surprised at most of you guys take the chain guards off ,if that comes off and rapps the back of your calf ,it would hurt a bit .
Chain guards are for sissies 😁 but nah in reality most of those flimsy things wouldn't stop a chain in full swing mate, they're more there to stop ya dress or shoelaces getting caught in the chain, is my understanding 🤷♂
Great looking bike! If ever u want to try out the 890R reach out! I’m BNE Southside - always up for weekend rides.
Thanks man 👌👌
Thats one argry beast. I love the sound. Your very lucky to get it for the day.
Hard to beat the noise of a v-twin! Cheers Simo 🍻
Mate, I really love your videos, the way the channel is evolving, you are really really good at this. The quality of the vids, the montage, it's great quality. Amazing to see you on the 1290, that would have been fun... :) Great review too
Shit thanks man, you're still my favourite commenter haha 😅👌 Cheers bro
An enjoyable episode Josh, thanks for the laughs and 😢 tears, you did well as usual mate 👌😊
Thank you sir Juddy 🙏
Maybe just a little hop😅
Wonderful documentary Joshua and Andrew
Cheers Rudes 🤩
That's whole lot of bike. I get what you're saying about riding modes etc, some people can't live without that stuff anymore but it's not for me either. The new Ducati supermoto enables people to wheelie and slide the rear under braking completely controlled by electronics, which is fine but are we creating a generation of riders who appear better than they are? To me it's like every fuggin kid now has their face in a tablet or phone where we used to send it over jumps on bicycles and get up to all sorts of shenanigans. But what would I know? I went from EFI to a flat slide carby and grin like an idiot riding.
Yeah wheelie control, what could possibly go wrong... till the muppet jumps on a bike that doesn't have it, expecting it to be there 😬 I do like me EFI though hehe
And that is exactly why I got rid of my BMW GSA, it was just too damn heavy to pick up when I dropped it. 😂
Got to admit, that part wasn't as fun as it sounded in the manual 😅
Awesome machine hey Josh, pretty nice of your friend to let you wreck it 😂 just kidding I would even let you ride my 990.Next time you are in the neighbourhood. Ha ha
I'll hold ya to that Ian 😎
Oooh! A space ship 🚀
I thought I was Chris Birch on my 1190r until I threw it down the road and couldn't pick it up again a few times. Sold it for a 690r.
Threw it down the road a few times 😅 Mate I'm surprised I haven't sprung a hernia yet from lifting that big dog. Cheers
Love your honest opinion, I have a rough time picking up my T7, I can’t imagine that big beast 😢
Me too mate haha thanks for the comment 🍻
Josh you got a few subscribers mate so hit up a couple of manufacturers for test rides. I love your calm take on everything and would appreciate your thoughts a range of bikes. I own a 2020 890r and am looking at the 2024... Also like the look of the Ducati Desert X and Yamaha T7 Rally. Great video👌
Thanks mate yeah I guess I wouldn't mind so much beating up on dealer bikes 😅 Cheers 🍻
Back brake locking on his hill hold control. There is an additional page in the on screen menu that only appears when the bike is stopped and in neutral. The option to turn that feature off is in those settings.
Awesome thanks
Hello Josh, well that was fun on a bloody big bike; to have that kind of power on tap, amazing! This is a bike for the bloody big tours and why not, Bikes relate to purpose, what are we going to do with the bike? Thanks for sharing; David....Adelaide/Kilburn....Triumph Scrambler 1200X One bike...does it all...yes its new.....sold the others....back to one bike.........for now!
Whattttt the V7 gone already??? 🤯
I could not get accessories and I was getting pissed off. Sold both bikes. So ONE bike and its going to do it all! Thanks..@@MVDBR
@@davidcauchi2837 the unicorn 😎
What a beast
I Love this bike and it is high on my next bike list. The big sticking point for me is how far the exhaust / muffler sticks out. It's going to be damaged when going down. Also, if you put panniers, you'll have to stick them out too far. I don't understand that design on an ADV bike? Even a road bike it will be like pulling a sail using panniers.
Yeah they do have a bit of a phat ass, and that muffler is HUGE (and expensive)
Note to Andy….Thank You for lending your bike to Josh. Thank You for not twisting Josh’s head off his shoulders. Interesting video, I’m thinking sometimes you take a nick or two, when punching above your weight. 👍🏼
It's like I said mate, sometimes the more careful ya try to be, the worse the end result 🤦♂ I 2nd the thanks to Andy for not twisting my head off 😁
@@MVDBR …….👊
A good honest, real world review
Thank you sir 🙏
Size of that spider, here in uk that would be classed as a tarantula…! Nice review, cheers.
Haha yeah they are big ugly brutes that's for sure. Cheers man 👊
Good on ya Andy for loaning your Bike for Joshie to review. And Joshie, we were all feeling your pain, happens to most of us at some point. Enjoyed the review, the big kato's sure are great bikes, and excel at what they are designed for.
Cheers Pete!
7:26 oh and I quote the husqvarna 701 has 74.6 bhp and the KTM has 74.3 ,so the husky is the most powerful single cylinder of it's day 👋🤠👍
😅🤦♂
For now. Ducati likely making 698 adventure. With a tune it makes around 85hp.
@@jonasbaine3538 hearsay mate , I like Ducati but to make a single cylinder engine do or get 85 hp it would need a 108 mm bore short stroke engine and riding it would be like on a giant vibrator ,I no this coz I had the 732 cc Lyndon poskitt kit on mine for a bit and it sent my hands numb on long treks 👋🤠👍that was a 105 mm bore lc4 husky engine and that had 83.6 bhp,well see mate ,but nothing will ever change my favourite bike which is the 701 husky mate 👋🤠👍 good riding mate
@@cliff1551 698 mono is 77hp and 85hp with race exhaust. 701 has been great but ktm really failed to expand the 690 platform after over a decade. Not making a 701LR Adventure was a huge mistake for example. With more chassis development, the 690 701 could be an epic adventure bike instead of heavy 790 890. Every single year KTM has an adventure rally with newest hyped bike and I still see a 690 keeping up in the videos! They should have make 690adv!
Endless twin cylinder bike variations wasted a ton of time instead of just expanding 690 platform like Ducati will probably do. Sorry to ramble. -1190adv
@@cliff1551 698 mono is 77hp and 85hp with race exhaust. 701 has been great but ktm really failed to expand the 690 platform after over a decade. Not making a 701LR Adventure was a huge mistake for example. With more chassis development, the 690 701 could be an epic adventure bike instead of heavy 790 890…
Endless twin cylinder bike variations wasted a ton of time instead of just expanding 690 platform like Ducati will probably do. -1190adv
In the setting mate can turn the hill hold off, annoyed the shit outta me haha.
Yeah I should have had a look for it but didn't want to stuff anything up 😬
The hill hold annoyed me not you just to clarify lol, was dangerous on road too. Great review btw🤙🏼
@@plurz215 I thought that's what you meant but I know I can be annoying so all good 😅 thanks mate
So much power, can't imagine taking that beast off road haha, good stuff man!
Cheers mate, keen for your high country vids! Making us wait with a premiere, shame on you! Haha 🍻
@@MVDBR 😆
I hope to see you there 🤙
@@AusMoto I find the chat distracts from watching the video haha but that's ok I can rewatch later on 🤙
Nice one one mate. Should have played with Throttle in rally mode instead of street and slip control instead of leaving it in 6. Super fun on fire roads for power-slides
Yeah I know man, I would have had more time to play around with settings if I hadn't dropped it and lost the will to go on 😅 cheers Oli
i like the driving and the comments and comparisons. Just one thing: it's not understandable to, how one can drive a bike without any protective gear. And even more,when driving offroad.
Good incentive to ride within your limits 😁
Good review mate. Having recently decided to add a big bike to the stable for longer trips I purchased a 2018 1090 r. It has less power (125hp) and tech and a bit less weight at 207 dry than the 1290r.Coming from enduro and dual sport bikes it really has surprised me just how capable these big pigs are. The off road dongle that turns off abs and tc is essential imo. They eat tyres like they're made of licorice tho.
125hp is nothing to sneeze at 😎 And I agree, I was surprised what my T7 was able to get through when I moved over to that from my 500 EXC. Thanks for the comment 🤙
Wicked trip mate, awesome bike. I would prob kill myself with that much power! LOL. I am pretty impressed how quiet it is as well!
Cheers man, least you'd die with a smile on ya dial 😁
Here's one for you... Check out the peak torque for your T7 vs your 690. Pretty shocking, right? Horsepower (RPM X Torque) is important, but our seat of the pant's probably tells us what makes for a grinning level of rideability. Thumpers rock! (Or check out the same for the 890 for fun.)
Yeah the weight of the bike obviously comes into it, power to weight ratio baby yeahhh 👍 cheers
Owned same bike for 14 mths.Fantastic bike but generally too big and to much plastic shrouds to get off especially if you drop in a water crossing.Also damn heavy when on its side(I know im much older now and not fit but.)Got rid of it.Cheers.
Yeah mate these big units are good for the easy stuff but too much in the rough unless you're Birchie. Cheers B 🍻
I remember years ago dropping my ancient XTZ750 and I nearly pulled a hamstring getting it up. I cannot imagine hauling any of the current crop of mega ADVs up off the dirt!
@@keyboarddancers7751 it's no cakewalk!
I ride with a guy that has a 1290 that is lowered some. He has a 28 inch or 71cm leg inseam. He says its not too bad to pick up. I don't see how that is. My 890 adv standard feels heavy to lift and it doesn't lay flat due to the tanks. I don't think I would be able to lift a 1290. I did ride it on a dirt road and it was fun and agile. My inseam is 76 cm. We are both short around 170cm tall.
Yeah I would definitely want it lowered a little if I owned one of these, and the dead weight is something to experience. I guess it would have been easier on a harder flatter surface to pick up, but not by that much 😬
The hill assist is actually an option, I have had it turned off since I left the dealer because it just sounded like it would cause problems like what you experienced.
Yeah not something I would leave enabled, that's for sure. Cheers 🍻
1290 country, yeah yeah, that’s the happy place. Great to share the experience of this bike with you Josh. As long as this ride was an adventure, that’s what it’s all about. a bike fit for purpose for me, thanks for looking after Nancy. I hope a few more riders, bike shops give you a chance to review different steeds. Ime old school too and one thing I’ve learned is embrace the technology, it’s there and good if it works. Well done, let the test rides begin. 🤙
Yeah mate I think the biggest thing for me is I just can't be bothered fiddling with settings all the time, just wanna ride. But I would be happy to spend the time getting it set to how I like it and just leave it that way, maybe adjust the slip control now and then like ya said. Thanks again for letting me experience the beast mode Andy cheers 🍻
Way to put the bike through some real off-road. Good review.
Thanks man!
KTM's updated off road ABS is good. She's a beast for sure.
So much better than the other bikes I've tried. I'm sure all ABS saves lives on the road but when it makes you poo yourself and/or crash off-road, no bueno 🍻
I went from the Pan America Special to a 2018 1290 SA-R. I only had it for a month because I’m a short guy at 5’8” 31” inseam. I traded it for a 890 Adventure S which is great for getting my feet on the ground.
There is a noticeable difference in top end, especially passing a big rig with a trailer on two lane twisty roads. I looked down at the speedo and I was doing 111 mph when I was preparing to get back in my lane, that was on the Pan Am, the 1290 had the same capability.
Very capable bikes.
Yeah mate I hear ya, not being able to get feet to ground can really put a damper on the experience when riding rough stuff off-road. Thanks for the comment 🤙
@@MVDBR sure thing Josh. 👍
I really like how KTM was able to lower the 2019 and newer 1290 SA-R. I could handle one on everything except rutted out trails and baby head boulders.
When you were standing there before attempting to pick it up that blade of grass in the wind made it look like you were pissing on the bike 😂.
Ain’t gonna lie I think about doing that to my T7 when I have to pick it up multiple times in one ride 😂
😅😅
Transalp next?
Haha could do mate I'm a bit gunshy after damaging that Akro though 😬
Beautiful bike ,Andy! Thanks for not killing Josh.
Thank fk he's cool as a cucumber 😎👌
Josh?. I thought your name was MVDBKTM690 sick kent.
Josh is easier to say 😎
Got a riding mate here with an 1190 that has a similar problem. He's got it decked out with metal side cases and crash bars and lights. A 560+ lb beast that takes both of us to pick up. He won't let me ride it on account of the weight .. although ironically I sometimes ride other people's loaded Harleys that weigh quite a bit more than that.
I'm really starting to get an appreciation for the lighter bikes again Suzy, must be another sign of old age and weakness 😅
@@MVDBR Not old age or weakness, just practicality. Being able to go all day on the highway comfortably brings with it a price tag that you pay when you're on dirt. Something like a XR650L with upgraded engine and some weight loss would work for me - if only they could make it injected & 6speed of course.
27:29 oops 34:22
What is that device, just up above the meter Console?
The GPS? I think it's a Garmin Zumo XT
Didn't quite catch the details of the high fender kit? Dalby Moto? I've googled them but cant see anything about a High Gaurd Kit. It looks great
I asked Andy and he said yeah Dalby Moto, which has now been sold to Elite Motorcycles. You should probably give them a call www.elitemotorcycles.com.au (not sure if you're in Australia or not but they are in Queensland AU) Also Andy said you have to source your own fender once you have the kit, he can't remember what one his is. Cheers
8:55 josh you no what I'm gonna say ,ye the powers nice but try and pick it up of the floor when you've done 150 to 300 km track and your tired .👋🤠👍
I know mate, I did 🙈
@@MVDBR I've ordered a cranns disclock , th VD 14 ,I didn't no they were Bluetooth tho couldn't remember you saying 👋🤠👍
@@MVDBR guy seemed ok with you dropping it ,or he'll probably sneak up on your tent one night lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Andy is a good dude cause carbon + Akra fucked...not cool ! but shit happens...
I thought cause most of those Akrapovic end cans are around A$1200 this would be the same, had a quick look before I took it back and more like $2500! So yeah very lucky Andy is a mad cnt 💪
@@MVDBR At least the bike saw some real off-road with you after 20,000km 😉
@@mototrailz shots fired 😅
He’s a big unit!
Nice review! Been meaning to get you on the Tiger 1200 Josh, now you'll have something to compare against! Spoiler alert: the KTM will be better off road haha
Wow, I'd be honoured mate. But you saw the damage I did right? Don't let me near expensive bikes! 🙈
@@MVDBR all good mate, its been on the ground plenty of times now haha
@@dickiecee434 😯
Awesome video josh , I’m keen to ride a 1290 looks like you had a lot of fun.
I loved my 1290 but man it was a lot of bike! Good review 👍
Cheers Jase 👊
the bike must be in neutral for the hill start to escape
Ahhh ok thanks 🤙
BEASTMODE engaged! 😀
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I have a 2022, I absolutely love it! Great Video
Thanks man!
Looked like you had an awesome day
Good fun for sure mate 💪
Hey Josh. You should check out the Fuel Dongles ABS switch for the T7. It shuts off the rear ABS and you can turn it on and off on the fly. Just picked one up and looking forward to seeing how it works this season.
Thanks mate but if it doesn't switch off the front as well I wouldn't bother 🙈
@@MVDBR I like having all the ABS off as well, but I’m going to try it out this year…when our snow melts that is. At least I’ll be able to switch off the rear on the fly if I forget and get into something that I need to drag the rear on.
Sick upload.😊
Can I ask what your riding experience is? Are you an avid off-road competitor? Used to be? I'm trying to decide on a 1290 KTM or T700 right now.
@@EthanOlson-i3r nah never been interested in racing mate, basically just a weekend warrior for the last 10 years 👌
Get the 1290!
No question, go with the 1290 if you can afford it
You need to give Andy a stubby chiller at least Josh. The poor blokes beer is getting warm! 😆
I did! Haha that's his beer sitting on the top box with a fresh cooler on it 😜 Doesn't quite make amends for the $2500 Akro but it's something!
@@MVDBR he's obviously watched your vids before and will have known what could happen. Doesn't make you feel any better about marking his Akra, carbon cover, crash bars, anything else 😜. If I'd let you loose on my bike and you dropped it I'd be OK with it. If you'd totally wrecked it being careless, I'd be mad then.
It was great to see a proper big bike off road ridden properly though. Always is. Well done fella 👍
Wtf is that huge 6 on the left side of the dash?
the level of rear wheel slip the traction control allows, goes from 1 through 9 where 1 is almost no tc and 9 wont let the bike go anywhere in mud. Great stuff really because with all that power its almost impossible to control slip with the throttle.
slip control to control wheel spin (power slide...etc). Needs to be set to zero for sand (old down for 2 seconds on the fly boom 0 then click up to go back to whatever the setting was)
Yeah Andy did explain about the slip control but I didn't really get a chance to play around with it 👍
Did you buy a new pipe
Nah Andy was chill, thank fuck. I would have though
Please level your audio
What's not levelled? I take great pains to make sure the audio is good...
@@MVDBR It's perfect Josh. Old mate needs his ears cleaned out. Typical no content nothing RUclipsr, at least he said please though 🤭
@@CRFLAus thanks mate. Yeah pretty sure this cobber has made the same comment on other videos, must be in his quickshot comment selection 🤔
What th3 t7 is almost as heavy 😂
40kg is a substantial difference in my opinion 😎
@@MVDBRyou have to look past the number and consider how nimble the bike is. The T7 is very top heavy and does not handle nearly as well.
Good review
Cheers 🤘
Just cruising josh , whats comfort like compared to the t7 ?? Id rather ride my t7 then my mates 790 when just cruising . Ya said it was comfy but how comfy mate ?
Yeah so I'm the same, from what I remember when I had a short ride on a 790 I remember thinking hey, at least the T7 is more comfy than this. But yeah the 1290 is better again, less vibes than the Tenere, better seat and very comfortable for cruising. Andy's got it set up real nice 👌
In the middle you spend about 2 minutes talking about how rider modes aren't for you and all that rhetoric about how 100 modes and traction control aren't needed and the best traction control is you, then the very next clip "this rally mode is good, very easy for a muppet like me to ride above his pay grade"... Give the ride modes an honest rhetoric free review. Maybe they're sht maybe not, but you gotta review what you're on and not what you believe going in.
Thankfully I remembered to make the "I'm not a professional motorcycle reviewer" disclaimer at the beginning of the video aye 😬 Thanks for the tip. If it helps, what I meant to say was... this bike (power) is awesome, not the rally mode specifically 👍
Fair enough, playing with the rally settings is where it shines. I think you rode mostly in 6. I found anything above 4 for low speed was annoying. When ripping Sandy roads in higher gears I like keeping the setting around 5 or 6. But lower speed 1st/2nd gear trails I'll run it down to 1 or 2. Using the +/- left hand buttons to tune it instantly. In 2 the slip is consistent and measurable enough to spin the back tire while climbing long sand hills but not fly out of control. I've only had 2 months to play with it, before it snowed, but I feel like there's definitely a lot of potential with rally above offroad mode with the msc off... If you get a chance to ride it again I'd recommend moving the rally setting down and then back up! You still might absolutely hate it, but it's meant to allow the rider instant tuning control.
Jeeeeesus
Gotta say that my old 1290 ABS stayed in Offroad mode but I would flick the traction control on when I got back onto the blacktop just because I know I can control the throttle but I struggled to control the devil on my shoulder that told me to wheelie every time somebody looked at me😂
I’m also so glad you got the full experience, mainly just getting to pick her up once😂😂
😅 that sure was an experience haha cheers mate
Amigo qué mala manera de conducir la moto. Me refiero a qué vas muy despacio y la tres en tercera, cuarta y quinta a muy baja velocidad y maltratar de esa manera el motor le vas a generar un dańo grave. Saludos
😅 ok mate
Maybe because of the rpm? You get lower grunt when on higher gear with low rpm