@@BigRockMoto Ian I watch all your videos and have to say. Your honesty and integrity is a rare find these days. Don’t change. You set a good example of how young men should behave. A few more valuable life asset than motorcycle reviews Keep up the good work Amigo!!
I have 2 years and 10k miles on my 2022 SAR. With the power, electronics and suspension/ geometry I believe this is one of the most insane production vehicles ever made.
The elephant in the room with KTM is quality and reliability. It is NOT bias or hate against KTM if you research it. Engine problems, in particular with the 790/890 (including Husqvarna 901) with premature camshaft wear, as well as electrical and engine problems with the 1290, are serious issues. Just do a quick search. And KTM has not exactly stepped up in dealing with most of these. I was supposed to have a KTM 1290 SAS available as one of the bikes on a tour of Sardinia, Corsica and Italy in June. The two BMWs, Honda, two Ducatis, two Triumphs and Suzuki were ALL in service…the NEW KTM had to be returned for electrical and engine problems. So as much, Ian, as the KTM may be a hoot to ride, when it works, my two week tour (and my motorcycle season overall) negate KTM in my book until they get their 💩 together.
Had a 790R with many miles, now on my 2nd 890R. My real only gripe is the steering head bearings need a nip up after about 1000km on all bikes. People complain about headshake, that's the cause and the quick fix. My 1st 890 had a rear brake sensor issue. Other than that, all good. Been reading about the cam issue, but touch wood have not been affected by it myself Also read about the clutch issues, mostly caused by riders not leaving any play on the lever and tensioning it up taught so it drags. KTM are selling stacks of these bikes, while there are faults I'm not convinced the noise volume is entirely justified by a few disgruntled customers. Maybe though I am just lucky.
I suspect KTM do not do enough testing before they release new models. I bought the previous 1290 SAS at the end of its production run (2020) by which time they seem to have sorted the common problems: dust in the air box and electrical gremlins. With the new models already announced, there were a lot of unsold bikes in the showrooms and in Oct 2020 I got a great deal on a new bike. I have had no problems apart from its eating batteries (currently trying a lithium).
Haven't watched it yet, but I already know what you're going to say.....it's a rocketship. My buddy's brother has one and I rode it while we were on a tail of the dragon trip. I can't own one of those. I do not possess the self control to not end up in the grave or prison. Maybe when I'm 70, but not at 40😂
For all the QA issues adventure KTMs have (some just internet over-hype), they do provide riding excitement no other bikes do. As heard by Ian’s laugh 😂
@@diraltmcallister3523 The electronic problem I have experienced was fixed by cycling the power. I think it will throw a fault if the power is fluctuated by hitting the starter while the CPU is still powering the full suite of electrical gadgets.
@@diraltmcallister3523 In my 1 KTM experience, there was always an electrical gremlin of some sort. My Superduke was supplied with switchgear that would crap out with any sign of moisture. I was eventually able to sort that problem myself with a second-hand part, as KTM Australia seemed unable to supply parts. There was always a warning message of some sort, usually suspension or some engine fault. Brilliant bike to ride, and the engine is amazing, but It's the only bike that has ever left me stranded (multiple times) and I never felt like I could trust the damn thing
@@diraltmcallister3523 Mainly online people whine, I have a new 690 and 890 and zero problems of any kind, but they ARE the funnest bikes ever, in a long history on bikes. A 1290? Thats not for me. Im not a freeway guy.
@@diraltmcallister3523 if you buy a brand new model from ktm in the higher spec you will be a beta tester, but how worse can it be? look on gs1300 burning starter relais .. they have now the 3. model for the starter relais and its still burns out... i had a 1290 super duke r from 2016 with zero problems, but the building quality was poor. Now i have a 2019 SAS and the quality is a whole new level. So far i got the breaklight replaced on warranty because the dash told me its broken but it was not.. new light with new part number and no problem. After near 5 years my gastank sensor has a problem, its known in the ktm community, some little part goes loose and blocking the sensor to go full up so my display shows me 7 bars form 8 ... no dealbreaker ..
IAN!! It’s about time you review this machine!!! Love my ‘23 1290 SAR. KTM’s coming out with upgrades for ‘25 that may include 1390cc engines and a Rally spec model! Can’t wait. “Engine of the gods” 😂 🍻 I’d love to see this turned into a long term review.
I just wish KTM wouldn't try to dispute every warranty claim. I think this is where BMW puts a lot of company's in their place. BMW just takes really good care of their customers. I love these big bikes though.
True but the 1090/1190/1290 has always been a pretty reliable platform. Unlike their new parallel twins with the chocolate camshafts. Maybe because 1290 still made in Austria and not China like the 790/890/990.
@@kugangles9860 890s are all still made in austria as were early 790s. The issue isn't weak cam's it's an oiling issue, and KTM are now reviewing even old claims and fixing them under goodwill..
I’ve watched this guy for years and it’s been interesting to see his videos evolve. Now he is the undisputed leader of reviews in the adventure bike space. Bravo!
bikes in general are cool... the KTM 1290 provides the power, the balance, the suspension, the handling, and the creature comforts and safety features that make it amazing... if you are a competent motorcycle rider, it will make you smile... sheer joy.
@@bradsanders6954 The 1290s are remarkably frugal on fuel, though I can’t say I’ve seen much over 50 mpg. I also don’t achieve the same fuel mileage as you do, with my 890. It all comes down to gearing and how hard you twist it, I guess.
@@bradsanders6954 890 also a great machine, and plenty of power!. Adventure riding is dirt and street, and the mix is ride and rider dependent. Horsepower is there if you want it, but manages power incredibly well.
@@bradsanders6954 the range is really good, and very typical to get 45 to 50 mpg, and that is having fun which is really what you want to do. 160 hp is not the important number, its the power you want, when you want it.... the engine strength is torque, and all the power you want, when you want it. If you are just looking for mpg, you really need to not have fun....
What a gem of a channel I found a couple of months ago. I’m getting used to your style. Slap full of details and very informative in a funny way. This vid, this bike has got to be one of your best. BTW the new BRM assistant is adorable. 🎩-Tip to all.
I'm a Yamaha T7 owner and last year I tried a friends KTM 1290 SAR for a couple of hours and I returned it to the owner as soon as I can before I hurt myself. It's a fantastic motorcycle but it´s easy to convince ourselves that we are better drivers than we actually are... the power is endless.
I'm going to comment before you start riding which I normally don't do but, I have 7,500 miles on my 2023 1290 SA-R and on my 4th rear tire😂. I ride a lot of off road, single track and did the first 3 sections of the UTBDR last year on it. I absolutely love this bike. What you said right before the drop test, about the KTM being fun, that's exactly why I traded my '22 Africa Twin for the 1290. Regarding the suspension, when I first took my 1290 on some single track I hit a jump where I got a little air, about 3' and it didn't bottom out. That's where I realized the suspension was top notch and I'm 6' 230#. This bike is an absolute beast. I keep mine on rally mode, slip #6. you probably know this but, when you have the rear ABS off you can't use the cruise control. I thought my bike was broken before I figured that out🙄 YES, I am so glad I came from sport bikes because trail braking is really important on this bike. It helpes compensate for the big front wheel by closing the rake % to turn in faster. Um, yes, it really wants to stay at 100..lol Very fun to watch and thank you
Great comments. I don’t have a 1290 R, but I leave my 890R in rally mode with off road ABS (nothing on the rear) and the cruise still works. I guess they are a little different!
I rode the 1290 in 2021 and it just blew me away. After that I bought one immediately. Everything you said is right on the money. It is the undisputed heavy weight king and it is just so much fun. I rode it on a 10 day tour of Namibia and it was just sensational. I am very short, but like you I did not like the screen and replaced it with the Super Adventure S's screen, which many 1290 R owners do and problem solved.
This bike has 2/3 the horsepower of my 2010 Tacoma with a 4.0 liter V6! I bought a 390 Adventure a couple weekends ago and I love it. This 1290 looks pretty insane LOL.
When things get tight, the 390 is no slouch. My 17 year old son rode with me for two weeks all over the Smoky mountains. I was on my 17 R1200 GS Rallye. He never had an issue hanging in the twisties or the dirt. In fact, I frequently had to tell him to back off because all I could see in my mirror was his head and headlight! We were moving pretty quick. He did get a ride on a 690 on pavement and dirt though and he has the bug for one now! LOL!
My 21 YO son on my 390 Adv was also amazingly able to hang with me in the Smokey’s while I was on my ‘17 1290 SAR. The shorter wheelbase and smaller wheels make that little 390 quick in the tight twisties despite its lack of power
On a side note. Thank goodness content creators are talking about bar risers, and how they suck. Having low bars with a high bend is much better to ride aggressively. It puts more weight on the front to bite in corners and helps keep the back end light. IYKYK
I understand the physics of what you guys are saying for sure. Never wanted to even consider bar risers but after constant and pretty severe neck pain I bought some 3/4" risers for my t7 and all the pain went away. I can ride all day again, no worries. I'm sure a new set of bars with a taller sweep would have been better and maybe I'll try that next. Point is, ergonomics are pretty personal and you gotta do what you gotta do.
The smile on your face really says it all. I love my 890 ADV R and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I have seriously considered a Super Adventure for distance touring.
I get a kick out of the haulin ass laugh outbursts...I usually catch every one of your reviews, and I can't recall another bike bringing so many out of you...very telling! Badass machine. Another great job! Appreciate you Ian...be safe.
I had many bikes in my life. I had test ride a few. The 1290 super adventure r is a piece of art. Capable for everything from of road to twisty roads. It’s the ultimate fun bike !
IAN!!!!!!!!! Im am so stoked that you got tothrown a leg over it! I had a 2017 SAR and it was the most incredible bike that i have ever ridden. Ì could ride it harder on highway than any street bike I've owned. Offroad was amazing. Owning a 1290 SAR is a visceral experience. You are engaged the second the LC8 wakes up. I only owned it for 5 months. I couldn't keep it out of the shop. I had to have the ECU replaced twice, numerous leaks from hoses rubbing on something, the gas tank kept leaking, and overall build quality was just really bad. The bike stranded me a fewtimes because it would stop recognizing the fob. I still think about the SAR, it was the best riding experience Ive had. But not the best ownership. But I think I think i would be willing to give it another shot. The bike is simply that good
The 1290 is the best bike I’ve ever owned, fun, fast and more capable off road than you would think, just keep moving. Bring on the no nothing internet warriors to say they are un reliable, simply not true, they are just like any other machine, there will obviously be a small percentage of issues.
My impression was it was the 790/890s that were "the problem"(mis aligned/drilled oil cooling holes under the cams...?) I've heard very good reviews of the 1290 engines.
@@MrRodwatson wrong at least from my experiences , my 890's have been bullet proof ,I have the 890 R ,and 890 R Adventure bikes and love them with out any issues. Love them so much going to try the 1290 and add it to collection.
@@blizzard71 My understanding, is the QC issue were/are not consistent, but seems to be 790/890 specific. That might be why some are "bullet proof", and a small minority, but significant amount of owners, ARE experiencing this nightmare. I do not claim to 100% know the answer....but each day more information is being exposed. I am very happy you have a good one.
Thank you for the great critic on the 1290...Disappointed I didn't go for it but did go for the 890 adv r instead...the weight of the lighter bike was the main reason. It also has enough power...but I think based on your joy of the ride today that the next purchase will be this model. Really appreciate the honest reviews!...Cute helper!
I bought a 1290 SAR -23 earlier this spring. This is my third KTM in a row and man, i think i just hit the jackpot. I think i Will keep this for a long time. Its soooo fun and capable on most roadsurfaces. Previously iv’e only had sport and nakedbikes but i live in Sweden and we have sooo many gravelroads around my area. And i dont feel that ive sacrificed much on the tarmak. Ive had some dirtbikes in the past and for a long time wanted to get back to to at least riding gravel and fireroads. Also did som easier singletracks and it handled fine. I think i will add a lighter dualsport to the garage also, because offroad is so much fun! Thank you for a fantastic review!
I have seen all of your videos but this is the first time you start the video with such a huge smile and excitement...I have never seen this in any of your previous videos...it speaks volume about how much this bike made you happy...and this is what matters most...please be careful to not loose your license :D
You’re right. The engine is the reason I’ve owned three of them. It’s THE best engine. You can ride it easy or wring it out, it doesn’t care, it does it all and cruises at 3 digits as long as you dare.🎉
i have a 2022 1290 SAR with 24 000km. best bike i have ever owned. Makes me smile everytime i ride. Great for touring and munching up big distance. great offroad (roads that you have just ridden). fun on the twisties and more fun when you give road bikes a fright. I changed the windscreen to the S models taller windscreen. Made all the difference as i am 6'1. works well offroad too. I also changed the footpegs to bigger and slightly lower pegs. helped my big feet and height. Love your channel:)
The S model is a beast. My favorite all around motorcyle out of the 17 i've owned throughout the years. Can ride it cross country AND hit some BDRs on it. I almost went with an R, but because I live on the east coast there is more pavement exploring than true off roading. Another great first ride!
Really great ride review. Nicely filmed and edited, ridden on really lovely terrain, and a nice description of this thing (I don't have a 1290R, but I have a 1290S and 890R and I'm picking up what you're putting down). You were maintaining a good pace! One confusing thing is that there is Rally "mode", where the throttle map and traction control are individually adjusted, and Rally throttle map (which is ridiculously sensitive on the 890R and I cannot imagine how crazy it is on the 1290R). I really like Rally mode, which allows more customization of the riding experience than the basic Off road, Street, and Sport settings, which have the throttle map, traction control, wheelie control, etc, baked right in. That said, I rarely change settings within Rally mode. Once I find a throttle map and TC setting I like, I tend to leave it. Thanks again for a detailed and thoughtful first ride presentation. Edit: your ND filter on the camera really makes for great video quality.
Fun watching you enjoy this beast. Every time I'm on my 990, especially blasting down some open expanse of gravel at to what some might seem like questionable velocities, similar uncontrolled giggling can be heard inside my helmet. It is why she is named BeDyG...for that Big Dumb Grin the shows up every the LC8 fires up. Now, if KTM can get their QC dialed in. Thanks for the drop.
Best value on the market for a big adventure bike. The fuel economy really depends on your right hand. You can get 50 mph if you ride conservatively, or if you ride it like you stole it, you'll get more like 44 mpg. 😂 one big advantage on the S version is the semi active suspension. Want it to be lazy no problem it can be lazy. Want to shred some canyons it will stiffen up with the push of a couple buttons. So good. One thing that drove my ocd crazy was watching you start the bike. It is a one touch start. You press it and let it go and it does it's thing. You dont have to hold it down. The best part for me was I got mine on closeout for 17,600. 😁
Ride safe man. I crashed a few weeks ago but by some insane luck didn't break any bones, but now looking at your speeds just makes my hands sweat.. 😂 just take care, you have an adorable daughter and all. Things can get really hairy really fast.. Anyways, all the best! 🙂👍🏻
Just got a 2016 1190 and man its awesome, so much features and little comfort extras for a bike from that period, handles so easy and is not that heavy
Ian, I am so glad that you know the roads are on because the amount of horsepower in that motorcycle is insane, you are a very detailed reviewer and you are very excited about riding this bike, born a beautiful bike to ride. It sounds like so much fun thank you so much for the content. Ride well and ride safe
16:15 i agree that rally throttle is ridiculously jumpy which I dont like because you really need to feather the throttle Sport is the best on-road Offroad is good ... off the road :)) The rain mode is also noticeable in reducing power output which makes riding in the wet a lot less stressful 23:02 if you get the powerparts lowered seat it is almost just as low as the superadventure S which makes it waaaay more aproachable 26:44 a crash WILL on occasion rip your mirrors out which may also leave you without a clutch or brake lever. It happened to me during a rally raid event. My solution was to buy some cheap mirror mounts and i just put them next to the OEM ones. That way i can break a mirror without losing a lever. But I never managed to bang a mirror hard enough since then. the more inward position protects them better. Mind you this happened with Barkbuster-like protectors not the dumb plastic OEM ones.
Watched it last night and just watched the whole video again..Either I don't have a life or this is just a superb video of this bike.Probably a bit of both! Nice work Ian, this was by far the best video I've seen on this bike to date and I've seen many. Like your Africa Twin video on the DCT the other day, you capture stuff others don't. Safe riding on this fast bike!
Goldwing and Vulcan S rider here. I'm living vicariously through these videos of yours. I ain't got the bones to do what you are doing anymore but man it looks like fun. Would love to live out west where it all seems so much more viceral to the eye. Great test on what looks like an awesome bike. Jealous as hell. 🙂
I have a late model S, 2018, love it. Almost 4yrs of ownership so far. I feel that these puppies don't get much attention in the US market, sadly. Yup, they are fun and dangerous, with the right amount of tech, and I found mine pretty reliable. Did a solo trip last year, 2 weeks in Ireland with mine, 5kkm , didn't tossed a single hiccup, solid all the way. ( I live in Europe, Portugal )
Another great video Ian, side note: dad mode looks good on you sir. Embrace those moments, they go by quick. Keep it up! Thanks again for what you’re doing.
Bro I havent enjoyed watching someone ride in a while. You are very skilled and really inspiring. I'll come back here when I get my first bike Godwilling.
I went from Ktm 390 adventure to 1290 r 22 model , wow like you said you have to respect the weight and the power, and look often and your speed.Love the bike ,every time I sit on it I get excited and definitely good looking bike that turn heads all the time
I'm glad you finally got your hands on this beast. It's an absolutely amazing bike. I've been riding one for a few months now, and i truly love it. It's a funtastic do it all with a huge smile. Just respect the machine, and it will take care of you. Keep up the awesome work and those laughs.
Having been on a 990r over the last 10 years, I finally put a deposit down on an 890r a little over a year ago. But after having the chance to ride one, the parallel twin just seemed soulless. Bought a 1290r instead. Smartest thing I ever did.
I'm more road oriented, so have the S version and boy do I love this bike. It does just about everything I want in a bike and is just a hoot to ride. I don't really offroad and just treat mine as big upright comfy sport tourer. It is also very fuel efficient if you aren't flogging it hard all the time (and even when you are flogging it, it's still not bad as Ian showed). I've been able to get as low as 5.2 L/100km (actual fuel consumption calculated using numbers from fill ups), which is just nuts for this engine. Absolutely fantastic bike and all at a price that makes the other large premium ADV bikes from other manufacturers blush. I will say it's a shame the R doesn't have that ACC feature. I use it a good bit on my S when cruising on the highway and I literally never want another bike without that feature ever again.
As an aside note regarding the fuel efficiency readings, I think there's something wrong with my computer's fuel efficiency consumption gauge. It always reads really high in the mid 8.5 L/100km range. About 2.5-3.0 L/100kms higher than it actually is consuming. No idea why as it was fine when I first got the bike, but has been always reading high since it had its first service. Dealer has no idea why it's doing that either. Anyway, just a quirk of my own bike I've noticed and hence why I do the calculations each time when filling up to see what the true fuel efficiency and consumption is. It's not anything that hampers the riding experience so I'm not bothered by it, but worth pointing out.
Great introduction to the 1290 SAR. Have been patiently waiting for you to review this bike. I bought a '23 last fall and your giggles when on the throttle echo my feelings. I only wish I had the terrain that you have access to. Looking forward to more videos on the 1290SAR and you honest review.
Typical review from you-Fun, great quality / effects, adorable daughter and makes me want to buy a bike I wasn’t even considering 5 minutes previously. Bravo !
I test rode this bike at my local KTM dealer but could not safely stand up and ride it because the pegs were too small, the shift lever was too low, and for my size and height the ergonomics were all wrong. I rarely sit down when riding, so to really enjoy the 1290R would have required a few modifications. I wear a size 12 SIDI Crossfire motocross boot and was not really able to enjoy riding this bike. My 2017 1090R has large KTM rally pegs and much better ergonomics than the 1290R. I did enjoy the fact that my feet rested flat on the ground, and the center of gravity felt good with the low fuel tanks on the 1290R. I am not a fan of all the complex electronics on the KTM 790/890/1290 bikes, and prefer the electronic simplicity and lighter weight of the 1090R over the 1290R. After 55 years of riding motorcycles both on and off-road, my plan is to find a 2007 KTM 950 SE because of the lighter weight and complete lack of electronics; with a larger gas tank the SE will give me the simple kind of motorcycle I grew up riding. Thanks for sharing another awesome video!
1. did not notice, wouldn't care, 1440p is still crisp 2. so that was it, wow, the sense of speed this gives is phenomenal. In this review I totally like it. 3. will see, but for a bike is not on my radar at all, it will be hard to beat this one. Do you know the action movies you watch in tension, although you know the hero won't die as, well, is the hero? Well, that's the feeling with that ND filter and FOV selection. The speed feeling certainly matches the depiction you made of how the bike rides. It really does.
If KTM ever needed a sales video for the 1290, this would be it. The genuine joy is awesome! On the point of reliability, a friend of mine rides the new 1300 GS and it’s a shitshow. He has to click away at least 3 failure notifications when he starts the bike, all related to the adjustable suspension, can only ride in the „low“ mode and now has to bring it in the 2nd time to change something with the starter (not mentioning several over night software updates that should fix the suspension issues but didn’t). Its ridiculous considering it’s a 30k bike (and I’m not anti GS, I ride one myself).
Hola Ian. Me gusta el modelo R. Pero me parece muy pesada, a pesar de ser la más liviana de su categoría. Tengo una 790R con la que estoy muy contento. Gracias por tus videos, son muy buenos. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
I agree... It's probably a good value especially if you can take advantage of all that power and capability. It would be just too much for me. Even 100HP is so much for my needs or even to have fun. The 790/890 have always been interesting to me. Being in New York City, there is just something about riding around on a street bike like a Triumph Classic or Royal Enfield. Even do some road trips around the area. I just see myself doing lots of that on the street bike. On longer trips where backroads would be involved, certainly the adventure bike would be the pick. Great review! Keep having fun!
Awesome review! Was waiting for a long time for this review, the S model more specifically. I agree with your Harley comparison and there is no doubt in the fact that this is the best bang for your buck. Also never seen Ian this excited on the review in any other bike. KTM 🙌🔥
Great review. I have run the gamut of KTM adventure bikes. I had an older 2017 1290 which must be night and day compare to the 2024 model. It was a great bike even back then. My whole challenge with adventure bikes has been the weight as I get older (67 now), and being able to lift the bike in rough hilly terrain. I even had weight issues with my 690r coming down from Mt. Patterson (the wrong way) and having to lift it above 10,000 feet elevation. I have a Gas Gas 500 now:) Back to the 1290....your review sure makes me want to buy one until you got to the lifting the bike part. Agree that KTMs are great values for what you get. The KTM electronics are fantastic, but I have to say it was kind of refreshing the other day to ride my Gas Gas to the dirt and when I got to the dirt I had to change nothing because that bike has no ABS and no traction control. Less critical on the small bikes though. I look forward to your full review of the 1290 although this initial review was pretty fantastic!
Great review, Ian. You really got the essence of this bike… its paved and gravel capabilities are just as good as you found it to be. I have 25K miles on my 1290 SAR and it gives me just the same joy you had every time i ride it. BTW, that’s 25K flawless miles 👌
Cream rises to the top Ian. Your the cream? Uhhhh. You’re the best and now you have all the big brands taking note. I was laughing with you on that ride. Wow. I just seen one a couple days ago and thought wow. That’s a lot. I appreciate your honest reviews and also cute little kid bud. Also made me smile. I’m very happy for you and your family.
I am totally into this bike. Only thing which puts me off is that a slight majority of people warn you about reliability and value loss at the same pace as the bike’s power! The Tiger is too high and big, simple as that. Ducati certainly a good bike, but hideous. 1300 GS probably still best overall,but more expensive and high insurance compared to the others , something which is never mentioned…
Keep up the great work! You are the only reviewer that actually rides these bikes to their capabilities. I don't even bother looking at other reviews, even by Motorcyclist/Cycle World etc. and for sure not RUclipsrs tip-toeing around at 25mph on the trails you blast at 75. Those reviews are not credible. PLEASE DON'T GET HURT. You're kind of a madman, which as a viewer I love, but Ian, be careful!
I really want to ride one of these. I rode my friend's 1290 S and 1290 Super Duke evo R and they were both magical. I'm definitely not capable of riding the 1290SAR the way I wish I could, but I'd love to take it down some simple dirt and fire roads. That engine is magical.
Great video dude. I like your relaxed yarn while you riding, honest genuine and no bull. Definitely one of the most unique style bike reviewers out there. Really enjoyed watching and listened to your giggles, like a kiddo in a candy store! But that's why we ride boys. Urgh, almost forgot, that little princess of yours just added cherry on the cake. Great to have little ones around and showing some interest in our passion. I have 3 grown ups, not one interested in bikes. 🙅
Good review. I have a 2022 SAR. Had a 2016 1190R. Almost 60k miles between them - fantastic reliability and fun. I think this is the most underrated adventure motorcycle today.
I have a 2018 (previous gen) and it's fantastic. With a tall screen and Seat Concepts seat it is easily as comfortable as a GS for touring, and much faster. The suspension is far superior to the GS and works great on and off road. The only real downsides are the heat it produces on hot days in traffic, and instability at high speeds (90 mph and over). It's also hard to pick up but the newer version fixes that. It works great for two up touring as well.
I just bought the same bike a month ago and it seems Ian’s been enjoying it as much as I have. 4500kms in it and so far I’m equally impressed. One thing that I was very surprised by is how easy it is to control the power to the rear wheel in technical terrain like loose washed out rutted tracks and mud. Coming from a 105hp 890R I thought this thing was going to be breaking loose and stepping sideways and constantly in technical terrain but the power delivery to the week is just as easy to control as the 890 was.. The variable slip in rally mode is just genius (same on the 890). Most of the time on gravel it almost feels like riding a slightly heavier 890 with a bit more grunt down low. Twin track is still fun and fast but this bike requires more room for stopping due to the extra weight. I do miss the lighter weight in the slower technical stuff though. I know once it starts to fall there’s almost no saving it, whereas the 890 I could almost always wrestle it back up before it hit the ground. Long legs help there. On the road it feels better than the 890. I guess the weight helps with stability but I think art if the smoothness and stability also comes from the geometry. Fantastic bike that’s far more exciting than any of the competition that I’ve ridden!
Love the cameo by your daughter. Very cute. This is a glowing review of the 1290. I’d be interested in your thoughts versus your R1300GS. Don’t think I could trust KTM again after my 890 ownership experience though, no matter how much fun it may be to ride. My 890 absolutely blew me away with how it rode, but it needed to be able to start first, and that’s what it was incapable of doing in a predictable manner.
My friend my friend Ian you finally took my advice on the KTM 1290 SAR. Yes and it’s bonkers and makes the other bikes seem a little underwhelming after riding this beast of an adventure bike!
Glad you had fun on this bike. Regarding why someone should bother with another bike, as this is so capable on and off road, I would answer that KTM takes this engine in a street chassis, and then you get the handling of a street bike with a front end feel, which every adventure bike is jelaous for. That is the reason I have my share of fun with this engine in a Super Duke GT.
Another great video. Your comment on the most important control as front brake provide opportunity to consider ranking other controls. I decided Foot Pegs are # 2.
The fun factor is why I can't seem to let go of my 1190r. The LC8 engine is just amazing. I don't need that much power though. And the size off-road scares the shit out of me. I guess I'm just lazy these days (61 y/o) and I don't want to work that hard (I can barely pick it up once). On road (or easy flat off road) it's the most fun bike I've ever owned. Great first ride video, look forward to the review just for entertainment (don't need to buy one).
Thank you for a great movie. I'm looking forward to another one with this Bull. I'm a happy owner. I did 6kkm. It's great. To everything. This is my second KTM. The first was 790 r, bought after your review. 3 years and 30k km. I remember very fondly. Keep it up. P.S. 1290 I bought it myself 😉
At a very different level I let my 690 Enduro R do the work of traction control and ABS and never had any drive related slides over 4,200 miles on roads and trails. Sure, on slow technical single track it might be obtrusive but for me it kept me within my comfort zone and delivered me back safely.
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ND Filter looks great.
Kind of prefer this.
I don’t like the cinematic blur at all
Video looks good.
I assume the Assistant Test Rider, Junior Grade also serves as Supervisor to the Yard Maintenance Technician.
Looks great to me.
Man, you are the only one doing real reviews of these adventure bikes. I'm super grateful for your videos.
Adam reimann does longer test rides and provides good reviews, complementary to Ian and the bikes!!
I appreciate that!
@@BigRockMoto Ian I watch all your videos and have to say. Your honesty and integrity is a rare find these days. Don’t change. You set a good example of how young men should behave. A few more valuable life asset than motorcycle reviews Keep up the good work Amigo!!
I have 2 years and 10k miles on my 2022 SAR. With the power, electronics and suspension/ geometry I believe this is one of the most insane production vehicles ever made.
I have a 22 1290sar as well. It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned, next to my 07 950se 👍🏻
I have 20K on my 890R, no problems of any kind except making time to ride it every week.
My 690R is the same, its a grin inducing bike every ride.
Wow, those 48 minutes went by faster than Ian riding a KTM 1290 on the highway!
The elephant in the room with KTM is quality and reliability. It is NOT bias or hate against KTM if you research it. Engine problems, in particular with the 790/890 (including Husqvarna 901) with premature camshaft wear, as well as electrical and engine problems with the 1290, are serious issues. Just do a quick search. And KTM has not exactly stepped up in dealing with most of these. I was supposed to have a KTM 1290 SAS available as one of the bikes on a tour of Sardinia, Corsica and Italy in June. The two BMWs, Honda, two Ducatis, two Triumphs and Suzuki were ALL in service…the NEW KTM had to be returned for electrical and engine problems. So as much, Ian, as the KTM may be a hoot to ride, when it works, my two week tour (and my motorcycle season overall) negate KTM in my book until they get their 💩 together.
Reliability is my biggest concern as well after 20 years with Suzuki V-Stroms, but the smiles per mile make the risk worthwhile on my '23 SAR.
Had a 790R with many miles, now on my 2nd 890R. My real only gripe is the steering head bearings need a nip up after about 1000km on all bikes. People complain about headshake, that's the cause and the quick fix. My 1st 890 had a rear brake sensor issue. Other than that, all good.
Been reading about the cam issue, but touch wood have not been affected by it myself Also read about the clutch issues, mostly caused by riders not leaving any play on the lever and tensioning it up taught so it drags. KTM are selling stacks of these bikes, while there are faults I'm not convinced the noise volume is entirely justified by a few disgruntled customers. Maybe though I am just lucky.
I suspect KTM do not do enough testing before they release new models. I bought the previous 1290 SAS at the end of its production run (2020) by which time they seem to have sorted the common problems: dust in the air box and electrical gremlins. With the new models already announced, there were a lot of unsold bikes in the showrooms and in Oct 2020 I got a great deal on a new bike. I have had no problems apart from its eating batteries (currently trying a lithium).
Haven't watched it yet, but I already know what you're going to say.....it's a rocketship. My buddy's brother has one and I rode it while we were on a tail of the dragon trip.
I can't own one of those. I do not possess the self control to not end up in the grave or prison. Maybe when I'm 70, but not at 40😂
For all the QA issues adventure KTMs have (some just internet over-hype), they do provide riding excitement no other bikes do. As heard by Ian’s laugh 😂
Do they really have as many electronic problems as people say?
@@diraltmcallister3523 The electronic problem I have experienced was fixed by cycling the power. I think it will throw a fault if the power is fluctuated by hitting the starter while the CPU is still powering the full suite of electrical gadgets.
@@diraltmcallister3523 In my 1 KTM experience, there was always an electrical gremlin of some sort.
My Superduke was supplied with switchgear that would crap out with any sign of moisture.
I was eventually able to sort that problem myself with a second-hand part, as KTM Australia seemed unable to supply parts.
There was always a warning message of some sort, usually suspension or some engine fault.
Brilliant bike to ride, and the engine is amazing, but It's the only bike that has ever left me stranded (multiple times) and I never felt like I could trust the damn thing
@@diraltmcallister3523 Mainly online people whine, I have a new 690 and 890 and zero problems of any kind, but they ARE the funnest bikes ever, in a long history on bikes.
A 1290? Thats not for me. Im not a freeway guy.
@@diraltmcallister3523 if you buy a brand new model from ktm in the higher spec you will be a beta tester, but how worse can it be? look on gs1300 burning starter relais .. they have now the 3. model for the starter relais and its still burns out... i had a 1290 super duke r from 2016 with zero problems, but the building quality was poor. Now i have a 2019 SAS and the quality is a whole new level. So far i got the breaklight replaced on warranty because the dash told me its broken but it was not.. new light with new part number and no problem. After near 5 years my gastank sensor has a problem, its known in the ktm community, some little part goes loose and blocking the sensor to go full up so my display shows me 7 bars form 8 ... no dealbreaker ..
IAN!! It’s about time you review this machine!!!
Love my ‘23 1290 SAR. KTM’s coming out with upgrades for ‘25 that may include 1390cc engines and a Rally spec model! Can’t wait.
“Engine of the gods” 😂 🍻
I’d love to see this turned into a long term review.
at this point sam vincent, motovibes, yeep(or smth liek that) and tim rodie all did that already
I love that you can’t stop laughing in your helmet. Tells you a lot about how you feel about a bike, and also it’s genuine. Great first look!
I just wish KTM wouldn't try to dispute every warranty claim. I think this is where BMW puts a lot of company's in their place. BMW just takes really good care of their customers. I love these big bikes though.
True but the 1090/1190/1290 has always been a pretty reliable platform. Unlike their new parallel twins with the chocolate camshafts. Maybe because 1290 still made in Austria and not China like the 790/890/990.
@@kugangles9860 Not sure about everyone else's 890 but my '23 890 was made in Austria.
@@kugangles9860 890s are all still made in austria as were early 790s. The issue isn't weak cam's it's an oiling issue, and KTM are now reviewing even old claims and fixing them under goodwill..
@@superdukerandy I wonder, the bike is assembled in Austria, but where do the parts come from?
@@kugangles9860 That's incorrect information. The 890 is made in Austria. This is common knowledge and not up for debate.
I’ve watched this guy for years and it’s been interesting to see his videos evolve. Now he is the undisputed leader of reviews in the adventure bike space. Bravo!
Wow, brother, you're way more gutsy than me. No way I would ride that fast offroad on a first-time ride! LOL!!
he probably knows every potthole there 😅
bikes in general are cool... the KTM 1290 provides the power, the balance, the suspension, the handling, and the creature comforts and safety features that make it amazing... if you are a competent motorcycle rider, it will make you smile... sheer joy.
Well said!
160 HP on dirt? Is that really the answer? My 890 gets 55mpg, I doubt this 1290 does that.
Range matters.
@@bradsanders6954 The 1290s are remarkably frugal on fuel, though I can’t say I’ve seen much over 50 mpg. I also don’t achieve the same fuel mileage as you do, with my 890. It all comes down to gearing and how hard you twist it, I guess.
@@bradsanders6954 890 also a great machine, and plenty of power!. Adventure riding is dirt and street, and the mix is ride and rider dependent. Horsepower is there if you want it, but manages power incredibly well.
@@bradsanders6954 the range is really good, and very typical to get 45 to 50 mpg, and that is having fun which is really what you want to do. 160 hp is not the important number, its the power you want, when you want it.... the engine strength is torque, and all the power you want, when you want it. If you are just looking for mpg, you really need to not have fun....
What a gem of a channel I found a couple of months ago. I’m getting used to your style. Slap full of details and very informative in a funny way. This vid, this bike has got to be one of your best. BTW the new BRM assistant is adorable. 🎩-Tip to all.
Awesome, thank you!
I come here for great reviews and very thorough.
I have the S version (2024), awesome machine! Still have my license (for now).
23 model added 19/17 spoked wheels. Mostly ride fire roads so it's more than capable for my needs. Love the bike.
I'm a Yamaha T7 owner and last year I tried a friends KTM 1290 SAR for a couple of hours and I returned it to the owner as soon as I can before I hurt myself. It's a fantastic motorcycle but it´s easy to convince ourselves that we are better drivers than we actually are... the power is endless.
I'm going to comment before you start riding which I normally don't do but, I have 7,500 miles on my 2023 1290 SA-R and on my 4th rear tire😂. I ride a lot of off road, single track and did the first 3 sections of the UTBDR last year on it. I absolutely love this bike.
What you said right before the drop test, about the KTM being fun, that's exactly why I traded my '22 Africa Twin for the 1290. Regarding the suspension, when I first took my 1290 on some single track I hit a jump where I got a little air, about 3' and it didn't bottom out. That's where I realized the suspension was top notch and I'm 6' 230#. This bike is an absolute beast. I keep mine on rally mode, slip #6.
you probably know this but, when you have the rear ABS off you can't use the cruise control. I thought my bike was broken before I figured that out🙄
YES, I am so glad I came from sport bikes because trail braking is really important on this bike. It helpes compensate for the big front wheel by closing the rake % to turn in faster. Um, yes, it really wants to stay at 100..lol
Very fun to watch and thank you
Great comments. I don’t have a 1290 R, but I leave my 890R in rally mode with off road ABS (nothing on the rear) and the cruise still works. I guess they are a little different!
Can’t believe this is your first go on a 1290 SA. I loved mine, got a GS now and really miss the way this bike felt and it’s soul…..
I rode the 1290 in 2021 and it just blew me away. After that I bought one immediately. Everything you said is right on the money. It is the undisputed heavy weight king and it is just so much fun. I rode it on a 10 day tour of Namibia and it was just sensational. I am very short, but like you I did not like the screen and replaced it with the Super Adventure S's screen, which many 1290 R owners do and problem solved.
Awesome!
This bike has 2/3 the horsepower of my 2010 Tacoma with a 4.0 liter V6! I bought a 390 Adventure a couple weekends ago and I love it. This 1290 looks pretty insane LOL.
I have a 390 too and I imagine going from that bike to this 1290 would be crazy.
When things get tight, the 390 is no slouch. My 17 year old son rode with me for two weeks all over the Smoky mountains. I was on my 17 R1200 GS Rallye. He never had an issue hanging in the twisties or the dirt. In fact, I frequently had to tell him to back off because all I could see in my mirror was his head and headlight! We were moving pretty quick. He did get a ride on a 690 on pavement and dirt though and he has the bug for one now! LOL!
My 21 YO son on my 390 Adv was also amazingly able to hang with me in the Smokey’s while I was on my ‘17 1290 SAR. The shorter wheelbase and smaller wheels make that little 390 quick in the tight twisties despite its lack of power
On a side note. Thank goodness content creators are talking about bar risers, and how they suck.
Having low bars with a high bend is much better to ride aggressively. It puts more weight on the front to bite in corners and helps keep the back end light.
IYKYK
i keep bringing that up, but some people don't agree with me....
Keep spreading the good word Ian
I understand the physics of what you guys are saying for sure. Never wanted to even consider bar risers but after constant and pretty severe neck pain I bought some 3/4" risers for my t7 and all the pain went away. I can ride all day again, no worries. I'm sure a new set of bars with a taller sweep would have been better and maybe I'll try that next. Point is, ergonomics are pretty personal and you gotta do what you gotta do.
6’3” with 35” inseam = need risers to be comfortable standing throughout long trail sections = more than worth any minor handling drawbacks
The smile on your face really says it all. I love my 890 ADV R and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I have seriously considered a Super Adventure for distance touring.
I get a kick out of the haulin ass laugh outbursts...I usually catch every one of your reviews, and I can't recall another bike bringing so many out of you...very telling! Badass machine. Another great job! Appreciate you Ian...be safe.
That’s one of the few bikes to draw a couple curse words out of Ian (in a good way)!
The PUIG spoiler works really well with the R screen, makes it a dream to highway ride without buffeting.
I had many bikes in my life. I had test ride a few. The 1290 super adventure r is a piece of art. Capable for everything from of road to twisty roads. It’s the ultimate fun bike !
IAN!!!!!!!!! Im am so stoked that you got tothrown a leg over it! I had a 2017 SAR and it was the most incredible bike that i have ever ridden. Ì could ride it harder on highway than any street bike I've owned. Offroad was amazing. Owning a 1290 SAR is a visceral experience. You are engaged the second the LC8 wakes up.
I only owned it for 5 months. I couldn't keep it out of the shop. I had to have the ECU replaced twice, numerous leaks from hoses rubbing on something, the gas tank kept leaking, and overall build quality was just really bad. The bike stranded me a fewtimes because it would stop recognizing the fob.
I still think about the SAR, it was the best riding experience Ive had. But not the best ownership. But I think I think i would be willing to give it another shot.
The bike is simply that good
Thanks for sharing this
The 1290 is the best bike I’ve ever owned, fun, fast and more capable off road than you would think, just keep moving. Bring on the no nothing internet warriors to say they are un reliable, simply not true, they are just like any other machine, there will obviously be a small percentage of issues.
My impression was it was the 790/890s that were "the problem"(mis aligned/drilled oil cooling holes under the cams...?) I've heard very good reviews of the 1290 engines.
nothing wrong with the LC8 v-twins...
V twins still made in Austria 👍
@@MrRodwatson wrong at least from my experiences , my 890's have been bullet proof ,I have the 890 R ,and 890 R Adventure bikes and love them with out any issues. Love them so much going to try the 1290 and add it to collection.
@@blizzard71 My understanding, is the QC issue were/are not consistent, but seems to be 790/890 specific. That might be why some are "bullet proof", and a small minority, but significant amount of owners, ARE experiencing this nightmare. I do not claim to 100% know the answer....but each day more information is being exposed. I am very happy you have a good one.
The giggle when you whack the throttle on a 1290. It's addictive.
Rottweiler intake and a pipe will give the sound you want. Super review. Cheers
Thank you for the great critic on the 1290...Disappointed I didn't go for it but did go for the 890 adv r instead...the weight of the lighter bike was the main reason. It also has enough power...but I think based on your joy of the ride today that the next purchase will be this model.
Really appreciate the honest reviews!...Cute helper!
The 4 Year old just Blessed your Bike and You
I bought a 1290 SAR -23 earlier this spring. This is my third KTM in a row and man, i think i just hit the jackpot. I think i Will keep this for a long time.
Its soooo fun and capable on most roadsurfaces.
Previously iv’e only had sport and nakedbikes but i live in Sweden and we have sooo many gravelroads around my area. And i dont feel that ive sacrificed much on the tarmak.
Ive had some dirtbikes in the past and for a long time wanted to get back to to at least riding gravel and fireroads. Also did som easier singletracks and it handled fine.
I think i will add a lighter dualsport to the garage also, because offroad is so much fun!
Thank you for a fantastic review!
I have seen all of your videos but this is the first time you start the video with such a huge smile and excitement...I have never seen this in any of your previous videos...it speaks volume about how much this bike made you happy...and this is what matters most...please be careful to not loose your license :D
You’re right. The engine is the reason I’ve owned three of them. It’s THE best engine. You can ride it easy or wring it out, it doesn’t care, it does it all and cruises at 3 digits as long as you dare.🎉
You’ve just convinced me to never buy this bike. I don’t have the self control it would require to stay safe and out of trouble. 😂
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This one’s been a long time coming! Seems like a great bike and I look forward to the next set of reviews. Thanks!
i have a 2022 1290 SAR with 24 000km. best bike i have ever owned. Makes me smile everytime i ride. Great for touring and munching up big distance. great offroad (roads that you have just ridden). fun on the twisties and more fun when you give road bikes a fright. I changed the windscreen to the S models taller windscreen. Made all the difference as i am 6'1. works well offroad too. I also changed the footpegs to bigger and slightly lower pegs. helped my big feet and height. Love your channel:)
The S model is a beast. My favorite all around motorcyle out of the 17 i've owned throughout the years. Can ride it cross country AND hit some BDRs on it. I almost went with an R, but because I live on the east coast there is more pavement exploring than true off roading. Another great first ride!
Really great ride review. Nicely filmed and edited, ridden on really lovely terrain, and a nice description of this thing (I don't have a 1290R, but I have a 1290S and 890R and I'm picking up what you're putting down). You were maintaining a good pace! One confusing thing is that there is Rally "mode", where the throttle map and traction control are individually adjusted, and Rally throttle map (which is ridiculously sensitive on the 890R and I cannot imagine how crazy it is on the 1290R). I really like Rally mode, which allows more customization of the riding experience than the basic Off road, Street, and Sport settings, which have the throttle map, traction control, wheelie control, etc, baked right in. That said, I rarely change settings within Rally mode. Once I find a throttle map and TC setting I like, I tend to leave it. Thanks again for a detailed and thoughtful first ride presentation.
Edit: your ND filter on the camera really makes for great video quality.
Fun watching you enjoy this beast. Every time I'm on my 990, especially blasting down some open expanse of gravel at to what some might seem like questionable velocities, similar uncontrolled giggling can be heard inside my helmet. It is why she is named BeDyG...for that Big Dumb Grin the shows up every the LC8 fires up. Now, if KTM can get their QC dialed in. Thanks for the drop.
Best value on the market for a big adventure bike. The fuel economy really depends on your right hand. You can get 50 mph if you ride conservatively, or if you ride it like you stole it, you'll get more like 44 mpg. 😂 one big advantage on the S version is the semi active suspension. Want it to be lazy no problem it can be lazy. Want to shred some canyons it will stiffen up with the push of a couple buttons. So good. One thing that drove my ocd crazy was watching you start the bike. It is a one touch start. You press it and let it go and it does it's thing. You dont have to hold it down. The best part for me was I got mine on closeout for 17,600. 😁
Ride safe man. I crashed a few weeks ago but by some insane luck didn't break any bones, but now looking at your speeds just makes my hands sweat.. 😂 just take care, you have an adorable daughter and all. Things can get really hairy really fast.. Anyways, all the best! 🙂👍🏻
Just got a 2016 1190 and man its awesome, so much features and little comfort extras for a bike from that period, handles so easy and is not that heavy
Ian, I am so glad that you know the roads are on because the amount of horsepower in that motorcycle is insane, you are a very detailed reviewer and you are very excited about riding this bike, born a beautiful bike to ride. It sounds like so much fun thank you so much for the content. Ride well and ride safe
KTM at it’s most KTM-ish. You just laugh as you go and fool around. I know the possible issues but they don’t matter when you ride:D
16:15 i agree that rally throttle is ridiculously jumpy which I dont like because you really need to feather the throttle
Sport is the best on-road
Offroad is good ... off the road :))
The rain mode is also noticeable in reducing power output which makes riding in the wet a lot less stressful
23:02 if you get the powerparts lowered seat it is almost just as low as the superadventure S which makes it waaaay more aproachable
26:44 a crash WILL on occasion rip your mirrors out which may also leave you without a clutch or brake lever. It happened to me during a rally raid event. My solution was to buy some cheap mirror mounts and i just put them next to the OEM ones. That way i can break a mirror without losing a lever. But I never managed to bang a mirror hard enough since then. the more inward position protects them better.
Mind you this happened with Barkbuster-like protectors not the dumb plastic OEM ones.
Watched it last night and just watched the whole video again..Either I don't have a life or this is just a superb video of this bike.Probably a bit of both! Nice work Ian, this was by far the best video I've seen on this bike to date and I've seen many. Like your Africa Twin video on the DCT the other day, you capture stuff others don't. Safe riding on this fast bike!
Goldwing and Vulcan S rider here. I'm living vicariously through these videos of yours. I ain't got the bones to do what you are doing anymore but man it looks like fun. Would love to live out west where it all seems so much more viceral to the eye. Great test on what looks like an awesome bike. Jealous as hell. 🙂
That 1290 motor is the best motorcycle engine. KTM engines are great. Love my 1290 SAS. Thanks for the video.
It sure is!
I have a late model S, 2018, love it.
Almost 4yrs of ownership so far.
I feel that these puppies don't get much attention in the US market, sadly.
Yup, they are fun and dangerous, with the right amount of tech, and I found mine pretty reliable.
Did a solo trip last year, 2 weeks in Ireland with mine, 5kkm , didn't tossed a single hiccup, solid all the way.
( I live in Europe, Portugal )
Wow 5kkm without dealer visit? I think ktm deserve some award for reliability 🤣
In the meantime Africa twin goes 400kkm on original clutch ;
@@Angry-Lynx think you misread...
I said I did a 5kkm solo trip, not the dealership visit interval...
The prescribed maintenance interval is 15kkm.
@@alex.shenanigans no that's exactly what I mean. That ktm managed to not break down in such distance;
Another great video Ian, side note: dad mode looks good on you sir. Embrace those moments, they go by quick. Keep it up! Thanks again for what you’re doing.
Bro I havent enjoyed watching someone ride in a while. You are very skilled and really inspiring.
I'll come back here when I get my first bike Godwilling.
I think the ND filter is pretty cool for videos like this. I think I'd probably avoid it on BDR type trips where the focus is on more of the scenery.
I went from Ktm 390 adventure to 1290 r 22 model , wow like you said you have to respect the weight and the power, and look often and your speed.Love the bike ,every time I sit on it I get excited and definitely good looking bike that turn heads all the time
That's quite the jump. 😂
@@Ntmoffi I get amazing deal, used with many extra accessories,also test ride Ktm 890 adventure r very nice but I love the comfort of that big 1290
I'm glad you finally got your hands on this beast. It's an absolutely amazing bike. I've been riding one for a few months now, and i truly love it. It's a funtastic do it all with a huge smile. Just respect the machine, and it will take care of you. Keep up the awesome work and those laughs.
Fantastic video! Keep up the great work and just know we admire the time and effort you put on these videos. Wishing you the best
Having been on a 990r over the last 10 years, I finally put a deposit down on an 890r a little over a year ago. But after having the chance to ride one, the parallel twin just seemed soulless. Bought a 1290r instead. Smartest thing I ever did.
I'm more road oriented, so have the S version and boy do I love this bike. It does just about everything I want in a bike and is just a hoot to ride. I don't really offroad and just treat mine as big upright comfy sport tourer. It is also very fuel efficient if you aren't flogging it hard all the time (and even when you are flogging it, it's still not bad as Ian showed). I've been able to get as low as 5.2 L/100km (actual fuel consumption calculated using numbers from fill ups), which is just nuts for this engine. Absolutely fantastic bike and all at a price that makes the other large premium ADV bikes from other manufacturers blush.
I will say it's a shame the R doesn't have that ACC feature. I use it a good bit on my S when cruising on the highway and I literally never want another bike without that feature ever again.
As an aside note regarding the fuel efficiency readings, I think there's something wrong with my computer's fuel efficiency consumption gauge. It always reads really high in the mid 8.5 L/100km range. About 2.5-3.0 L/100kms higher than it actually is consuming. No idea why as it was fine when I first got the bike, but has been always reading high since it had its first service. Dealer has no idea why it's doing that either. Anyway, just a quirk of my own bike I've noticed and hence why I do the calculations each time when filling up to see what the true fuel efficiency and consumption is. It's not anything that hampers the riding experience so I'm not bothered by it, but worth pointing out.
Great introduction to the 1290 SAR. Have been patiently waiting for you to review this bike. I bought a '23 last fall and your giggles when on the throttle echo my feelings. I only wish I had the terrain that you have access to. Looking forward to more videos on the 1290SAR and you honest review.
Typical review from you-Fun, great quality / effects, adorable daughter and makes me want to buy a bike I wasn’t even considering 5 minutes previously. Bravo !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi, I’m prisoner 148797, aka Ian, and welcome to Big House Moto.
Love the review and can’t wait to get back out on my 2018 SAS!
You’re the best on these reviews Ian and you knocked it out of the park on reviewing the 1290 Super Adventure R!
I test rode this bike at my local KTM dealer but could not safely stand up and ride it because the pegs were too small, the shift lever was too low, and for my size and height the ergonomics were all wrong. I rarely sit down when riding, so to really enjoy the 1290R would have required a few modifications. I wear a size 12 SIDI Crossfire motocross boot and was not really able to enjoy riding this bike. My 2017 1090R has large KTM rally pegs and much better ergonomics than the 1290R. I did enjoy the fact that my feet rested flat on the ground, and the center of gravity felt good with the low fuel tanks on the 1290R. I am not a fan of all the complex electronics on the KTM 790/890/1290 bikes, and prefer the electronic simplicity and lighter weight of the 1090R over the 1290R. After 55 years of riding motorcycles both on and off-road, my plan is to find a 2007 KTM 950 SE because of the lighter weight and complete lack of electronics; with a larger gas tank the SE will give me the simple kind of motorcycle I grew up riding. Thanks for sharing another awesome video!
Bar risers and wider/lower pegs make a huge difference.
1. did not notice, wouldn't care, 1440p is still crisp
2. so that was it, wow, the sense of speed this gives is phenomenal. In this review I totally like it.
3. will see, but for a bike is not on my radar at all, it will be hard to beat this one.
Do you know the action movies you watch in tension, although you know the hero won't die as, well, is the hero? Well, that's the feeling with that ND filter and FOV selection. The speed feeling certainly matches the depiction you made of how the bike rides. It really does.
Your little girl is an ANGEL!
If KTM ever needed a sales video for the 1290, this would be it. The genuine joy is awesome! On the point of reliability, a friend of mine rides the new 1300 GS and it’s a shitshow. He has to click away at least 3 failure notifications when he starts the bike, all related to the adjustable suspension, can only ride in the „low“ mode and now has to bring it in the 2nd time to change something with the starter (not mentioning several over night software updates that should fix the suspension issues but didn’t). Its ridiculous considering it’s a 30k bike (and I’m not anti GS, I ride one myself).
Hola Ian.
Me gusta el modelo R.
Pero me parece muy pesada, a pesar de ser la más liviana de su categoría.
Tengo una 790R con la que estoy muy contento.
Gracias por tus videos, son muy buenos.
Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
I agree... It's probably a good value especially if you can take advantage of all that power and capability. It would be just too much for me. Even 100HP is so much for my needs or even to have fun. The 790/890 have always been interesting to me.
Being in New York City, there is just something about riding around on a street bike like a Triumph Classic or Royal Enfield. Even do some road trips around the area. I just see myself doing lots of that on the street bike. On longer trips where backroads would be involved, certainly the adventure bike would be the pick.
Great review! Keep having fun!
Awesome review! Was waiting for a long time for this review, the S model more specifically. I agree with your Harley comparison and there is no doubt in the fact that this is the best bang for your buck. Also never seen Ian this excited on the review in any other bike. KTM 🙌🔥
I have been waiting for this review! I'm so excited that you had a great time
Great review. I have run the gamut of KTM adventure bikes. I had an older 2017 1290 which must be night and day compare to the 2024 model. It was a great bike even back then. My whole challenge with adventure bikes has been the weight as I get older (67 now), and being able to lift the bike in rough hilly terrain. I even had weight issues with my 690r coming down from Mt. Patterson (the wrong way) and having to lift it above 10,000 feet elevation. I have a Gas Gas 500 now:) Back to the 1290....your review sure makes me want to buy one until you got to the lifting the bike part. Agree that KTMs are great values for what you get. The KTM electronics are fantastic, but I have to say it was kind of refreshing the other day to ride my Gas Gas to the dirt and when I got to the dirt I had to change nothing because that bike has no ABS and no traction control. Less critical on the small bikes though. I look forward to your full review of the 1290 although this initial review was pretty fantastic!
Great review, Ian. You really got the essence of this bike… its paved and gravel capabilities are just as good as you found it to be. I have 25K miles on my 1290 SAR and it gives me just the same joy you had every time i ride it. BTW, that’s 25K flawless miles 👌
Bought the -24 1290R this year, and it is absolutely the best bike ive ridden. Previous bike was the 890R. Great video!
Good choice!
Looks like an absolute beast! Thanks for taking us along for the the adventure!!👍🏻
Cream rises to the top Ian. Your the cream? Uhhhh. You’re the best and now you have all the big brands taking note. I was laughing with you on that ride. Wow. I just seen one a couple days ago and thought wow. That’s a lot. I appreciate your honest reviews and also cute little kid bud. Also made me smile. I’m very happy for you and your family.
I am totally into this bike. Only thing which puts me off is that a slight majority of people warn you about reliability and value loss at the same pace as the bike’s power! The Tiger is too high and big, simple as that. Ducati certainly a good bike, but hideous. 1300 GS probably still best overall,but more expensive and high insurance compared to the others , something which is never mentioned…
Keep up the great work! You are the only reviewer that actually rides these bikes to their capabilities. I don't even bother looking at other reviews, even by Motorcyclist/Cycle World etc. and for sure not RUclipsrs tip-toeing around at 25mph on the trails you blast at 75. Those reviews are not credible. PLEASE DON'T GET HURT. You're kind of a madman, which as a viewer I love, but Ian, be careful!
I appreciate that!
I really want to ride one of these. I rode my friend's 1290 S and 1290 Super Duke evo R and they were both magical. I'm definitely not capable of riding the 1290SAR the way I wish I could, but I'd love to take it down some simple dirt and fire roads. That engine is magical.
Great video dude. I like your relaxed yarn while you riding, honest genuine and no bull. Definitely one of the most unique style bike reviewers out there. Really enjoyed watching and listened to your giggles, like a kiddo in a candy store! But that's why we ride boys. Urgh, almost forgot, that little princess of yours just added cherry on the cake. Great to have little ones around and showing some interest in our passion. I have 3 grown ups, not one interested in bikes. 🙅
I appreciate that!
Great meeting you at Dusty Lizard! Thanks for the great work & reviews!
Look at you go! And all those times I offered to let you take a ride on mine! Glad to see the review!
I have a 2015 SA that has been a fantastic bike, love the LC8 engine. Currently at 51k and going up.
Great video !!!! A good mix of bike information mixed in with a whole lot of fun and laughter. Well done indeed.
No way I have any use for a bike like this, but it was a blast to watch! Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have 2019 KTM super adventure R and 2023 super adventure R, this bike is by far the most insane product on the market money can buy.
Good review. I have a 2022 SAR. Had a 2016 1190R. Almost 60k miles between them - fantastic reliability and fun. I think this is the most underrated adventure motorcycle today.
How is it underrated when literally every review says it is phenomenal? :D
I have a 2018 (previous gen) and it's fantastic. With a tall screen and Seat Concepts seat it is easily as comfortable as a GS for touring, and much faster. The suspension is far superior to the GS and works great on and off road. The only real downsides are the heat it produces on hot days in traffic, and instability at high speeds (90 mph and over). It's also hard to pick up but the newer version fixes that. It works great for two up touring as well.
good info
I just bought the same bike a month ago and it seems Ian’s been enjoying it as much as I have. 4500kms in it and so far I’m equally impressed. One thing that I was very surprised by is how easy it is to control the power to the rear wheel in technical terrain like loose washed out rutted tracks and mud. Coming from a 105hp 890R I thought this thing was going to be breaking loose and stepping sideways and constantly in technical terrain but the power delivery to the week is just as easy to control as the 890 was.. The variable slip in rally mode is just genius (same on the 890).
Most of the time on gravel it almost feels like riding a slightly heavier 890 with a bit more grunt down low. Twin track is still fun and fast but this bike requires more room for stopping due to the extra weight. I do miss the lighter weight in the slower technical stuff though. I know once it starts to fall there’s almost no saving it, whereas the 890 I could almost always wrestle it back up before it hit the ground. Long legs help there. On the road it feels better than the 890. I guess the weight helps with stability but I think art if the smoothness and stability also comes from the geometry. Fantastic bike that’s far more exciting than any of the competition that I’ve ridden!
Great info thank you for posting this
I have both and agree his points are spot on
the rally seat on this is a dream!
Love the cameo by your daughter. Very cute.
This is a glowing review of the 1290. I’d be interested in your thoughts versus your R1300GS. Don’t think I could trust KTM again after my 890 ownership experience though, no matter how much fun it may be to ride. My 890 absolutely blew me away with how it rode, but it needed to be able to start first, and that’s what it was incapable of doing in a predictable manner.
My friend my friend Ian you finally took my advice on the KTM 1290 SAR. Yes and it’s bonkers and makes the other bikes seem a little underwhelming after riding this beast of an adventure bike!
Ian my dude. This was my favorite review of yours. I could feel the stoke.
The suspension cam is such a great idea.
Man! It genuinely makes me happy.seeing you enjoying this beast! What a machine KTM🔥🔥
I got Super ADV S 2 weeks ago from Vstrom 650 ! I love this bike a lot but how you said I respected and I did not even turn on Sport mode yet lol
Glad you had fun on this bike. Regarding why someone should bother with another bike, as this is so capable on and off road, I would answer that KTM takes this engine in a street chassis, and then you get the handling of a street bike with a front end feel, which every adventure bike is jelaous for. That is the reason I have my share of fun with this engine in a Super Duke GT.
Another great video. Your comment on the most important control as front brake provide opportunity to consider ranking other controls. I decided Foot Pegs are # 2.
The fun factor is why I can't seem to let go of my 1190r. The LC8 engine is just amazing. I don't need that much power though. And the size off-road scares the shit out of me. I guess I'm just lazy these days (61 y/o) and I don't want to work that hard (I can barely pick it up once). On road (or easy flat off road) it's the most fun bike I've ever owned. Great first ride video, look forward to the review just for entertainment (don't need to buy one).
Thank you for a great movie. I'm looking forward to another one with this Bull. I'm a happy owner. I did 6kkm. It's great. To everything. This is my second KTM. The first was 790 r, bought after your review. 3 years and 30k km. I remember very fondly.
Keep it up.
P.S. 1290 I bought it myself 😉
At a very different level I let my 690 Enduro R do the work of traction control and ABS and never had any drive related slides over 4,200 miles on roads and trails. Sure, on slow technical single track it might be obtrusive but for me it kept me within my comfort zone and delivered me back safely.
The 690 has nice offroad traction control