KTM690 Enduro R Adventure Build
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- 1200mi trip comapriing the KTM690 with the Africa Twin: bit.ly/3zxQnn9
Kick Stand Lean Demonstration by telerover: bit.ly/3Y4nIzC
Comfort and Ergonomics:
04:44: Rade Garage K5 Carbon Fairing Kit
05:49 BRP Moto Sub-mount Damper kit
06:51 Rade Garage Lowered Foot Pegs
08:15 Knigh Design Lowered Brake Pedal
08:55 Seat Concepts Seat
10:13 Stompgrip "Tank Grips"
Protection:
11:07 Cycra Pro Bend Adventure Handguards
11:59 CRG Aarrow vs Double Take Mirrors
12:45 Outback Motortek Crashbars
13:16 Tekmo Carbon Fiber Case Covers
13:33 E-Line Kevlar and Carbon fiber Skidplate
Power and Performance
14:43 Rottweiler Exhaust system
15:50 Tekmo Titanium Headers, Wings Titanium Exhaust, Rottweiler SAS and Canister Delete
16:15 Dynojet Power Commander 6
17:19 KTM Off-road ABS Brake Dongle
18:51 Stock Suspension
19:17 Scotts Steering Damper
20:09 Custom Shortened Kickstand
Good video! I have the white version. It started as my hardcore dual sport but later I changed it up to do adventure riding. I’m using the Rade Garage under seat air filter/aux fuel tank. I’m using Outback pannier racks and use hard luggage when I’m on a long trip. I use a Swiftkicker adjustable stand and a bunch of other stuff. I rode from Portland to the Arctic Ocean 2 years ago. I’m 75 now and need to lower it a couple of inches so I can ride it into into my 80’s.
Dang…Portland to the Arctic is a bucket list trip. Good thing you have that rade garage aux fuel tank as I bet range would have otherwise been limiting. If my bike hadn’t already come with the Rottweiler air-box, I would have gone with the rade garage so I could get that auxiliary tank. I hope to still be riding at 70! Keep it up.
Really awesome walk thru of your mods at the 690. Had a 2014 for 5 years. No significant issues. This build definitely makes it a agile ADV rig. Would love to try out how the Rade Garage fairing feels like. Definitely a sub to your channel, Happy Trails!
Great video! I’m going through the same. Started in a KTM 390a, then a T7, and now a Tuareg 660. But lately I’ve realized I want a lighter but capable bike.
I'm not sure if the 701 is THE unicorn but it's certainly my unicorn. I don't think there's ever going to be a unicorn bike because it's so subjective. I need the weight of my 701 but my buddy is a very talented rider who can ride his 890R in harder stuff faster and safer than me. For him the 890R is his unicorn because he has the skills to ride it that way. I think the beauty of the 701 is that it's really a unicorn platform that you can build into whatever you want. Super awesome and underrated bike.
I'm considering the 690/701 and just came across your video. Lot of great information presented in a mature, sensible manner, thank you very much for taking the time to do this. Coincidentally, I recently owned a '17 Africa Twin as well, loved it but just found the size/weight too much for me. Downsized to the 390 but now looking to possibly move over to the 690/701. Your video has given me some great information to help with this decision. Also, thanks for showing you sitting on it. I'm around the same size and have wondered about the seat height, seems like it should be fine. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and the kind feedback! Glad the video was helpful. The 690/701 is definitely a unique platform and an option worth considering.
After riding motorcycles for 50 years, and owning many KTMs dirtbikes from 1999 onwards and was so impressed with KTMs handling, so I bought the 2021 690 Adventrure R, first day out I got the speed wobbles on a dirt road doing 50mph, so fitted 25mm bar risers as felt i was leaning to far forward over the front but still no good, so then looked at many other KTM dirtbike images and found that the steering headstem on the 690 sits level with seat and comparing that to all other KTMs they sit much higher than the seat, so I fitted a set of WP 300mm forks and now has finally fixed the steering wobble headshake on my 690, problem is totally gone, bike now super stable at any speed how a KTM should feel and how i believe they should have come from factory not with a super motard 250mm front end to save costs....
I bought one and it is my favorite for long haul trips. I bought it for a 2800 mile ride. 50/50 dirt/back road. Canada to Mexico. Cascade and Sierra Nevada range. Kinda following the Pacific Crest trail. My KTM 500 exc could do it but not very well. My KTM790 adv. S. out of the picture. Way to massive for the dirt sections. Lot of mods include Rade Garage 1.5 fuel tank. It is a large dirt bike. Expert rider in my 60's now.
Sounds like an epic ride! I do think the Rade Garage aux fuel tank is a critical mod. If this bike hadn't already come with the rottweiler airbox, I would have gotten the Rade Garage one with the extra fuel tank.
Bought a used 2020 701 with all the goodies already installed. Seriously considered 790/890, AT, 850... Two years of riding the 701 and I would buy again!
Curious how the reliability has been?
@@DiscoveryMotoADV One problem. The gear shift sensor got some dirt behind it causing stalling issues. Took me awhile to figure it out. Cleaned sensor, sealed so no more dirt, and its been running perfect! Their is a magnet on the trans that moves when changing gears. The sensor sends signals to ECU. The sensor misreading/poor signal due to dirt caused it to stall intermittently...
For anyone considering this bike, one important thing to carry or do is the sidestand dongle or just rewire the sidestand switch. It uses a magnet based sensor system that you cannot just wire around on the trail if you lose the magnet(you will eventually). The magnet is kinda flimsily screwed on and it will wiggle itself out of alignment or just fall off the bike entirely and leave you stranded. The dongle bypasses this if you want the safety of still having a switch. Or you can just tape a magnet to the sidestand switch and rewire it under the seat for less that $5 or free like I did.
Yes, 100% agree. I actually do have the kick-stand bypass dongle and I think the fact that this is such a common failure point that this dongle is a well selling item, is a testament to terrible design and quality on the part of KTM. At least when it comes to the kickstand. I had meant to include some comments on this in the video but forgot and was too lazy to go back and re-record that segment. Thanks for bringing it up.
Very nice review, thanks for taking the time to run through the bike and all of the mods you've made. One question, you mentioned dialing in your steering damper to eliminate the headshake - what settings did you land on?
Very informative video thank you.
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Great video. I have pretty much the same bike and set up but have the rade garage airbox and storage. I also have a power commander and didn't realise that you could have duel maps. Do you think it's worthwhile. How much more mpg do you get with the economy map.
Cheers 👍
I haven't done enough back to back comparison to tell how much of a difference the fuel economy map makes. But even running fuel economy mode, in mixed riding I have seen the tank go dry after only 133mi! Since you have the Rade Garage airbox, I might invest in the aux fuel-tank thank is compatible with it to address the short range (if range is a concern for you). That said, I imagine the extra fuel map and switch would be a cheap addition from Rottweiler so might be worth it.
If KTM would modify the internal gear ratios in order for it to have a low enough 1st and 6th that allows lower rpm’s when doing longer highway rides, this would take a decent all around bike and make it incredible. It has 74 hp, it will pull a tall 6th gear. It would be nice to be able to lope along at 75mph at around 4500 rpm.
Map 2 does change the ABS.
Not according to the manual or KTM’s website which says: “the drive mode only influences the throttle response. In drive mode 2, the traction control allows more slip and rise of the front wheel”. Nothing about ABS. Perhaps they changed this in the most recent model? Thanks for watching!
Beautiful 690 ER build. Who makes that square gizmo on dash that show gear, oil temp, etc.? GREAT job reviewing build on video.
Thanks for watching and the kind feedback! Glad you enjoyed it. The gizmo is called a Cumpan gauge and it is made by a German company called Berotec. Link below: berotec.de/product/cumpan-universal/?lang=en
Great Adv build video ! I found myself in a similar situation last year with my 1250GS on some remote gnarly trails and got an 890R - super happy with it ! Did you consider an 890 ? I know it’s about 50lbs heavier than the 690 but the low tank is great at hiding that weight when handling the bike.
Thanks for watching! I did consider an 890 / 790. Indeed, I briefly owned one. It was pretty awesome but felt too jerky and unsettled to me. In retrospect, I think I needed to make some of the same ergo adjustments I made on this bike + perhaps a throttle tamer. Ultimately, all the bikes I try have to unseat my AT which is a pretty high bar given how well that thing performs post all of the mods I made to it.
@@DiscoveryMotoADV yep, agree. I had to do quite a few similar mods to my 890 for it to perform on road and offroad the way I needed it to.
Good vid - well structured, informative.
I did keep thinking the AJP PR7 already mostly ticks those boxes - including a rear steel subframe for luggage and an accessible gas cap.. 😁 tho understand it's not road registrable in most of the USA 😮
What do you think about the Veridian cruise control, have you considered it?
I honestly never found a need for cruise control on a motorcycle. I could see it being helpful for folks that have arthritis or something but I am thankfully able to knock out long days without any wrist discomfort. Thanks for watching!
Digging the channel..new sub✌️
Thanks for watching and welcome aboard!
How do you like the Stegz Pegz on this bike?
You know, I am not sure I like them that much. They feel a little in the way of my boots (sidi crossfire). They may have been kind of helpful before I got the ergos dialed in but now I think they are more annoying than helpful.
@@DiscoveryMotoADV I've had them on all my bikes before the 690 and found they took a lot of stress off my hands. I haven't put them on this bike yet but I am considering it. I find the 690 a little too narrow to grip well with my legs so I was thinking they may help.
The two things that I found most helpful with regard to gripping the “tank” were (1) getting the ergos right (for example lowering the pegs put my knees in better contact with the bike) and (2) adding the grip pads which are much better than naked plastics.
I traded my KTM 1290 in for a 701. I liked the 1290 but the 701 is more fun and a lot lighter for the way I like to ride. I'm not a long distance rider.
Did you not change the gearing stock way to tall
The bike actually had a larger front sprocket when I got it which I did not like. Switched back to stock and am quite happy with it for my mix of riding. Thanks for watching!
How is the stock gearing? A lot of owners have mentioned the narrow range of gear ratios. There is even a wide ratio transmission available.
I find it to be acceptable. The previous owner had larger front sprocket to make it a little taller for the freeway but I found this to be problematic off-road and even in tight, slow speed twisties. So, I went back to stock and this has worked well for my type of riding.
Did you consider the AJP PR7?
I did consider it briefly. It has very limited availability in the US and, consequently, a limited dealer support network and part availability when traveling. It is also not street legal here yet (at least last I checked) though hopefully this will change. Also, it does not have ABS which is a deal braker for me. Thanks for watching!
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Why is reliability such a big issue? I've heard of odd things going wrong (fuel pump, etc) but most seem not to have problems.
Yes fuel pumps failures are common enough than many people carry a spare. This model had bad master clutch cylinders. There is currently a massive controversy around faulty rocker arms (for newer models on the bigger KTM ADV bikes). Older models have electrical issues. This particular bike failed to start on two out of three mornings of our back country trip even though it is basically brand new. Luckily my buddy was there to help push start. Also, this model is know for kickstand switches that fail easily and can not be fixed by the usual cut and splice job. Its common enough that KTM sells a kickstand bypass
Dongle just for such emergencies. KTMs brand is generally regarded as high performance / low reliability. Depending in which of those elements is more important to you, you may be willing to sacrifice on the other. Personally, I am willing to sacrifice some performance for bulletproof reliability.
@DiscoveryMotoADV thanks for this. I've the same dilemma; I have a T7 but it's just too heavy for the Trans European Trail stuff I want to do but I don't want to break down when riding solo in northern Norway, etc. I've been offered a great price on a zero miles 2024 at my local dealer. Should I jump ship? 😂
In my view, it’s a bit of a gamble but as you say there are many owners out there that report no issues. You could be one of the lucky ones. That was my rationale when I bought the KTM….Maybe ill get one of the trouble free units. The previous owner had already replaced the clutch master cylinder which was a know issue for this model year. Unfortunately for me, I did not get completely lucky (see above comment about bike not starting). So, my experience with this bike added to my prior bias about KTM reliability. It doesn’t help that it has started perfectly since then so I can’t diagnose or fix the problem. I just have to live with the unsettling fact that it could just randomly happen again at some unfortunate time when I am
some place remote and by myself. If you want to take the gamble, I would look for a low mileage used one so you let someone else take the depreciation hit. Then, if you aren’t happy with it, you can sell it on without much of a financial loss. Even better if you can find one that is already pretty built up (if you are planning to do mods) since again, the prior owner will be taking the depreciation hit on the upgrades. You can expect to get them at half of what they would cost if you did it yourself. Overall, the performance of this bike (with the modifications) is really excellent. It really is a unicorn. But the reliability remains a concern….
@@DiscoveryMotoADV much appreciated. Many thanks indeed.
holding TCS + ABS buttons for 3 mississippis = no abs and no tcs
This review is not bad but if you are pushing a bike because you refuse to put lower grade gas you have missed the point.
In that instance, we were pushing the bike because the gas station (actually two gas stations in a row) were closed and the KTM ran out of gas before we could make it to the next one. So it was really more of a fuel capacity issue than a low octane issue. If I was going somewhere that I knew had limited access to high octane gas (baja for example), I would bring octane booster.
@@DiscoveryMotoADV Gotcha- I use the GL gas bag on my 701 and its handy
Hah! That’s exactly how we ended up rescuing that situation. I rode up ahead 10 miles to get a GL bag full of gas and brought it back. Would have worked better to have the bag full before we ran out but we did not expect two closed gas stations.