Worked in a lumber mill for 4 years while going to college... made $4.65 an hour. Retired from a 28 year law enf career and make $9,000 month. I miss the mill WAY MORE!!
I like how everyone can see what’s going on throughout the mill from a safety standpoint of just being able to make sure that everybody’s OK I think that’s great and good airflow and light what a nice set up.
7:18 Un-fucking-believable! A man standing on the conveyor and the moving boards! OSHA who? This was filmed 5 years ago. How many of these people are still alive?
They have it easy compared to older saw mills run off 671 Detroits. Checkout Reel Mckoy and Mark Gailic channels, some old school country mills with just one saw operator milling full nasty logs to beautiful lumber and the hardest working off bearers.
A Woodmizer industrial band mill will cut the same amount of wood out of 3 truck loads as your circle mill cuts in 4 truck loads. Circle mills are fast but waste wood.
BUT they are not cutting boards with the circular saw. They are stripping to the cant. That material is routed to a scavenging operation to extract usable lumber from the waste. The bandsaw does the board cutting process, and yes one at a time to remove the need to reposition the sawblade after the cut - just begin on the next cant immediately. THAT is the little secret to the efficiency of this operation.
A circular saw would cut just fine, but, a bandsaw has a thinner kerf (part of wood removed to make the cut) and gives more boards out of a log than a circular blade.
Then why not have a bandsaw at the first station? This is SUCH a bizzare set-up. Square the logs with a circilar saw, then move them to a bandsaw to cut again. Isn't one machine cheaper than two?
@@Maloy7800 Throughput is more important than elegance. Cutting is more productive than setting up. Best to set up other machines than to have an artisan carve up one log on one station. Yes, one saw can do all the cuts. But manipulation of the log takes time in between cuts. Parallel operations using multiple always make more product than one machine per product because each machine can be optimized for the most efficient way to perform that one specific process.
I dont know why places like this dont just have a gang edger and you run the cant through once and it's all turned into boards and you've handled the cant once. This way you keep touching the same cant over and over one board at a time
In a Sawmill gotta be a badass or not work in one i love it started at 19 now almost 21 and couldn't find anything better fast pace always somthing to do and makes the days go by nice and fast
What's the mortality rate for the operators at this company? This guy stands in the middle of several moving mechanism of a pretty hefty size. He has to ALWAYS remember to stay on this exact spot, otherwise he will either be sawn or killed. ANY wrong move and he is either injured or dead, and in this area of business I'd be hard-pressed to name the worst option.
@@cabbyhubby im 19 working at a mill always learned to keep one eye out for danger and learn to listen to the machine it will tell you when somthing is wrong
Hello Chuck Stairs This setup is in outer space where there is no gravity. That's why they have to have an extra man on the payroll, just pulling every slab & flitch as it comes off the log & placing it on the belt.
@@HurdleMachineWorks I guess it does boil down to capital costs. The super mills cut 2X4 2X6 and 2X8 only. There would be a lot more money in custom cut sizes.
I do not understand the set up. It would seem two bandsaws working each completing a log on the frick would be more efficient that a circular saw doing the initial squaring and a bandsaw working with a carousel to cut the boards.
this is the most in-efficient way of milling a log. band saws people BAND SAWS! cutting the same cant multiple times is not effecient at all. 1 log or cant moving back and forth instead of taking a slab and opening the face is just dumb. take a slab to get a square face then hit it with the band saws and make your lumber to whatever size you need without having any machine cut the same cant more than 1 time. That back and forth is costing you time, work hours, energy, and its making alot of sawdust instead of usable lumber.
Yes, that's the best reply to a very good question. I, too, don't understand why this last board can't be sawn off at the headrig? Am I a moron, too? Or are you just an arrogant jerk?
They're feeding a resaw. The headrig is just breaking down the logs to a cant so that the resaw can get the boards out of it with a thin kerf band so that less lumber is wasted and it's more efficient because the blade is always cutting whereas the headrig has to gig back (not cutting) and it takes a 9/32" kerf whereas the resaw probably has a 5/32" kerf or so.
Cutting a board from the cant at the bottom has two process advantages. The sawn board is clamped in place under the remaining cant. A single tip separates cant and board. If the board were cut from the top, it would be loose and would have to be dropped off the cant. Loose and dropped is not a good thing in industrial processes. Tip and separate. Elegant. While this one board at a time method might appear complicated, this process is actually more efficient than a one- machine process: The logs move past two saws. Multiple times to square up the cant. One time through the saw. Both saws are stationary (the heavy and complex head does not move). The sled performs the manipulation and multiple shuttles to square the cant (slow process). The belt does only one thing - run a cant in one direction past the blade (fast process). A circulating stream of cants removes the need to reposition the saw location - that is what's been removed from the equation that makes this a very fast efficient and cost-effective/production. Most likely the circular saw was in place chopping up boards and all before an expert saw the place, bought a stationary bandsaw (cheap) and some conveying equipment (cheap) and turned an inefficient working area into a 28000bf per 8 hour shift money maker. Scale is the monster. Most small guys get eaten by scale.
The Europeans and Americans are the biggest idiots in the world. China builds and manufactures some of the finest and most cost effective large bandsaws in the world. Why would anyone want to pay such large amounts of money to purchase a European or American bandsaw which is uneconomical equal to if not inferior to a Chinese mill and costing hundreds of thousands more. Add to that is shipping which in some cases cost half the price of the mill. Go China. You win
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Worked in a lumber mill for 4 years while going to college... made $4.65 an hour. Retired from a 28 year law enf career and make $9,000 month. I miss the mill WAY MORE!!
What a great set up I sawed for ten years on double cuts, single cuts ,and circle saws never seen a operation like this awesome
I like how everyone can see what’s going on throughout the mill from a safety standpoint of just being able to make sure that everybody’s OK I think that’s great and good airflow and light what a nice set up.
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Man, that place just hums along!
Looks really fun working there
I like the whole set up, I would love it if the mill I saw at was set up like this.
Beautiful work thank you for the video. :)
Wow.that's an awesome setup.
7:18 Un-fucking-believable! A man standing on the conveyor and the moving boards! OSHA who? This was filmed 5 years ago. How many of these people are still alive?
Your company has a very modern wooden workshop, It's great to see this Video
Good tail sawyer 😀😀
Love to see this...
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I Don’t Believe I Have Ever Seen One That Fast
I'd love to only saw me like this everybody's working and they got a saw and then they got a bandsaw so I love this I like to have something like this
I want this!!!!
Tremendous respect for those guys working at a saw mill. But, I guess you get all the free saw dust you want?
Yeah .... as much as your underwear and socks can hold ....... trust me 25 years and counting in a sawmill as a mill right
My gawd, that’s the slowest process ever! There’s no way this place is still in business!
You have no idea what you are talking about. This guy now has three sawmills, very successful.
Its no longer about how fast you produce. Its who you cut for , how you cut it, and what market. Been that way for the last 20 years.
Quite the merry go round
Nice mill
For you guys wanting to work there thats green lumber and is heavy. Thats hard work take it from me.
They have it easy compared to older saw mills run off 671 Detroits. Checkout Reel Mckoy and Mark Gailic channels, some old school country mills with just one saw operator milling full nasty logs to beautiful lumber and the hardest working off bearers.
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Is this the same lumber I see at Home Depot and Lowes?
I need this whole setup.
Help me out.
like at 2.44 there pitching a 4 foot 1 x 8 of the best wood in the log
F.a.s (first and second)cut. The best wood is between the bark and center portion of the log.
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I tried working in a saw mill and found that I was not cut out for it.
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Bandsaw explosion
Must be nice not having to wear a hard hat. Osha must love you guys.....
Nothing overhead to fall and hit you in head there Safety Sam.
A Woodmizer industrial band mill will cut the same amount of wood out of 3 truck loads as your circle mill cuts in 4 truck loads. Circle mills are fast but waste wood.
BUT they are not cutting boards with the circular saw. They are stripping to the cant. That material is routed to a scavenging operation to extract usable lumber from the waste.
The bandsaw does the board cutting process, and yes one at a time to remove the need to reposition the sawblade after the cut - just begin on the next cant immediately. THAT is the little secret to the efficiency of this operation.
Is there a reason why the circular saw couldn't cut all of the timber?
A circular saw would cut just fine, but, a bandsaw has a thinner kerf (part of wood removed to make the cut) and gives more boards out of a log than a circular blade.
Then why not have a bandsaw at the first station? This is SUCH a bizzare set-up. Square the logs with a circilar saw, then move them to a bandsaw to cut again. Isn't one machine cheaper than two?
@@Maloy7800 Throughput is more important than elegance. Cutting is more productive than setting up. Best to set up other machines than to have an artisan carve up one log on one station.
Yes, one saw can do all the cuts. But manipulation of the log takes time in between cuts. Parallel operations using multiple always make more product than one machine per product because each machine can be optimized for the most efficient way to perform that one specific process.
I dont know why places like this dont just have a gang edger and you run the cant through once and it's all turned into boards and you've handled the cant once. This way you keep touching the same cant over and over one board at a time
kyle warmerdam They need to turn the cant to get the most high grade boards as possible
kyle warmerdam s. It’s grade hardwood lumber, not dimensional lumber.
Because once you take the grade off you can sell the cants at right dimensions to pallet producers and fetch a higher price then waste boards
why did the guy pull the cut peace out too early?
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The Amish have really modernized
Paul S They are not Amish.
is that poplar?
Mark Calvert I liked it. 😁
very expensive wood
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Mr coz personally for me is cheap in price and I really like this wood
did anyone notice that saw flopping around? Might wanna check the bearings.
28,000 fbm/shift ??? better good sawclogs, why is the production so low ?
By the looks of it they don’t supply overalls and I bet they haven’t got any safety boots
It's no fun working in the sawmill it's noisy dusty get a lot of splinters I worked in one myself
I just love it.
This is sawmill bro not a spa
I enjoyed this work too !
In a Sawmill gotta be a badass or not work in one i love it started at 19 now almost 21 and couldn't find anything better fast pace always somthing to do and makes the days go by nice and fast
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What's the mortality rate for the operators at this company? This guy stands in the middle of several moving mechanism of a pretty hefty size. He has to ALWAYS remember to stay on this exact spot, otherwise he will either be sawn or killed. ANY wrong move and he is either injured or dead, and in this area of business I'd be hard-pressed to name the worst option.
Nothin' to it, shouldn't be any harder than working yourself across a minefield with a bayonet for a probe, simple.
I've been making sawdust for 35 years , still got all my fingers and toes
@@cabbyhubby im 19 working at a mill always learned to keep one eye out for danger and learn to listen to the machine it will tell you when somthing is wrong
Why is man on live belt wast
Hello Chuck Stairs
This setup is in outer space where there is no gravity. That's why they have to have an extra man on the payroll, just pulling every slab & flitch as it comes off the log & placing it on the belt.
Band saw have les sawdust. More board. Saw dust is no good.
Endre Kasas
GOOD LORD. Are you guys really still using 1950s technology to cut lumber. The last mill I worked at did 600,000 board feet in an 8 hour shift.
DAN HUNIK LOL I hope the next video shows the steam engine
This mill costs only a fraction of the cost of your 600,000 board ft mill.
This mill requires very few people to operate. Many of our customers are very profitable.
@@HurdleMachineWorks I guess it does boil down to capital costs. The super mills cut 2X4 2X6 and 2X8 only. There would be a lot more money in custom cut sizes.
I guess if you give me that much money I can make you a mill that produces 600,000 bf too
I do not understand the set up. It would seem two bandsaws working each completing a log on the frick would be more efficient that a circular saw doing the initial squaring and a bandsaw working with a carousel to cut the boards.
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Very Fast
Seems like it would be a very boring job
In my opinion, a gang saw would be more efficient than the band saw
probably lots more maintenance with a gang saw, but certainly much faster I'd say
Circle to break down the log, Brewco B 1600 resaw, n a edger,love the lay out,would like to buy a mill like that for Guyana
With Band Saw you can make more out of each log, prolly more bf
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this is the most in-efficient way of milling a log. band saws people BAND SAWS! cutting the same cant multiple times is not effecient at all. 1 log or cant moving back and forth instead of taking a slab and opening the face is just dumb. take a slab to get a square face then hit it with the band saws and make your lumber to whatever size you need without having any machine cut the same cant more than 1 time. That back and forth is costing you time, work hours, energy, and its making alot of sawdust instead of usable lumber.
You might have missed where they said they were sawing for grade. Circular mill removes sap wood and slabs. Resaw makes cants into lumber.
Slower yes but the trouble with band mills and grade is they reveal a lot more defects than a circular saw does.
To slow
Who's "Brilliant" idea was it to saw one board from many logs instead of sawing all the boards from a single log and moving on to the next log.
Somebody who obviously has 100 times more experience at running a sawmill then you do. Moron.
Yes, that's the best reply to a very good question. I, too, don't understand why this last board can't be sawn off at the headrig? Am I a moron, too? Or are you just an arrogant jerk?
They're feeding a resaw. The headrig is just breaking down the logs to a cant so that the resaw can get the boards out of it with a thin kerf band so that less lumber is wasted and it's more efficient because the blade is always cutting whereas the headrig has to gig back (not cutting) and it takes a 9/32" kerf whereas the resaw probably has a 5/32" kerf or so.
Cutting a board from the cant at the bottom has two process advantages. The sawn board is clamped in place under the remaining cant. A single tip separates cant and board. If the board were cut from the top, it would be loose and would have to be dropped off the cant. Loose and dropped is not a good thing in industrial processes. Tip and separate. Elegant.
While this one board at a time method might appear complicated, this process is actually more efficient than a one- machine process:
The logs move past two saws. Multiple times to square up the cant. One time through the saw.
Both saws are stationary (the heavy and complex head does not move).
The sled performs the manipulation and multiple shuttles to square the cant (slow process).
The belt does only one thing - run a cant in one direction past the blade (fast process).
A circulating stream of cants removes the need to reposition the saw location - that is what's been removed from the equation that makes this a very fast efficient and cost-effective/production.
Most likely the circular saw was in place chopping up boards and all before an expert saw the place, bought a stationary bandsaw (cheap) and some conveying equipment (cheap) and turned an inefficient working area into a 28000bf per 8 hour shift money maker.
Scale is the monster. Most small guys get eaten by scale.
Because that's the way they want it
No way in hell they saw an "average" 28000 MBF per day unless th yrun two shifts! Way to slow...and I have seen over 400 sawmills in operation!!
28000 MBF is roughly 56 cubic meters. With that size of logs, I don't think it's such a huge number. It's two truck loads.
Needs a slabber, and very unsafe for the guy next to the rig. Safety first!!!
The Europeans and Americans are the biggest idiots in the world. China builds and manufactures some of the finest and most cost effective large bandsaws in the world. Why would anyone want to pay such large amounts of money to purchase a European or American bandsaw which is uneconomical equal to if not inferior to a Chinese mill and costing hundreds of thousands more. Add to that is shipping which in some cases cost half the price of the mill.
Go China. You win
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