That’s the reality. Rodman was bigger, taller, and supposedly slower than MJ in 1990 when they met in the ECF. But, his motor just kept on going that entire 7 games series, and also the next series guarding Magic who was bigger & stronger.
Phil has come out and said that Dennis Rodman was the best athlete he ever coached -- not the best player, obviously, but the best ATHLETE. He wasn't wrong. Rodman had freaky athleticism -- strength, speed, coordination, verticality, crazy motor, balance, body awareness...
Phil knew what the job was. The way he read his teams was uncanny. He always knew what each guy needed mentally in order to operate. Phil probably low-key picked Kerr and Buechler because he knew they needed that too. Phil’s nickname isn’t The Zen Master for no reason. Dude was a basketball genius and was amazing at managing people.
@@cjwrench07rodman wasn’t on that 90-91 championship team. Scottie checked magic that series. Thats how they won’t. Mike checked Magic G1 and the Lakers stole it. Mike got tired so they switched rest of the series.
@@009godspeedZen philosophy wouldn't tell players to go out and party. It's about peace balance calm love everything as one. Not harming your body or anything else
@@mojojojo6400 Zen isn't simply about that. I studied Zen.. You googled it. Never said he was a perfect example of a Zen student & never said he was a Zen "master" I said he "allegedly" studied Zen. Don't see why you tagged me. He obviously studied Zen to a degree he just "uses its teachings to his own personal gain"
Interestingly enough, Denis Rodman (as far as I can tell) genuinely does not seem to have a racist bone in his body. He seems equally okay partying with anyone regardless of the color of their skin.
Phil Jackson understood that being a championship winning NBA coach isn't being the best at Xs and Os. It's about strategy combined with personality management.
@@youin24years What shift? 🤣🤣🤣. He’s accomplished absolutely nothing yet. I’ll give him two years. Then we can have a better understanding of who he is as a HC.
Firstly, strategy is Xs and Os. Second, Phil Jackson coached like a dumbass in the 2008, encouraging Paul Pierce and Ray Allen corner threes because he thought it’d lead to Lamar Odom fastbreaks.
That's crazy Phil knew Dennis had the day off and he still had 2 other teammates go baby sit him and made them practice next day knowing how Dennis parties 😂
I don’t think that’s the story lol. When Phil saw the state Dennis was in, he gave him the day off, but he can’t start giving everybody the day off just because they partied with Rodman.
Phil Jackson is a genius. He most likely used to send players routinely to party with Rodman, so they wouldn't question his work rate. They experienced Rodman's party life, and this would end up leaving them wondering how the hell Rodman did what he did on the court.
The only reason he pulled any chicks was because money... You actually think any of these women would do anything with him if he stank, looked like that and had no money?
@@dukenukem69 money, fame, and reputation. Plus how much he had to stick out in a crowd. Rodman was and is crazy. I think I heard he was or is living in North Korea 😂.
@@jaykowsh1027 Assuming jealousy is the most played-out and unchecked defense mechanism on the internet. Did you even read what was said? Or are you actually of the belief that women aren't interested in money and fame and everything that goes with it?
@@thejanglezclan I'm sure they're interested in that. They're also interested in guys who have none of that if they're handsome, 6 foot 7 and in very good shape.
And that's why I miss the old days dudes where just different not a shot at the youth today but that's why I say today nba spank OGs cuz the live in the gym
I partied with rodman one time in vegas in 97. All I'll say is that man is one coolest people I've ever met and an absolute beast. When we walked outside the sun was coming up and he said he was going to take a shower and go to practice. I went straight to bed lol i don't know how he did it
Phil has a knack on getting the best out of his players because i think he treat each player as an individual and try to understand their mindset without the pushback and at the same time make them realize that their important and the team needs them like everyone else in the team.
Phil Jackson AKA Obi-Wan Kenobi was exactly like Dennis Rodman back in the day that's why they got along Dennis what's clearly in tune he just wanted to party the NBA season is it very tedious one and it's not for the faint of heart.
It’s crazy how Phil was able to manage all their personalities so well. I mean I’m sure it was stressful as fuck for him at the time, especially as all their respective egos grew as they continued to win chips. But still he clearly knew how to handle each and every guy and how to cater to their needs to keep them focused.
It was awesome having Judd, Wennington, Kerr, and Randy Brown on the squad. Guys who knew their role, absolutely relished their opportunity when they had their short stints on the court, and were always laughing on the bench
If you mean "best person" as in like upstanding, reliable, moral, and stuff like that then I honestly don't know. If you mean "best person" as in basketball player, then definitely not when Michael Jordan, the best to ever play the game of basketball, was on that team. So was Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippin. I'm not sure how well some of the 90s Jordan Bulls' teams would do in today's league with how easy it is to get called for a foul today and with being able to shoot a 3-pointer being so important today, but they would probably still be able to win the championship today (if they weren't all like over 50 years old or older lol).
He might have had his head on straight more than a lot of the other players...and a really good player. But definitely not the best one on the team. Jordan, Scottie Pippin, Rodman etc. And in that order most likely
Talk about "taking one for the team" smh these guy's did just that, literally! 😂😂 Imagine Jud and Steve having a wild night with Dennis Rodman, they seemed like the last 2 guy's you'd expect to be seen partying with Rodman. They always appeared measured, reserved, etc etc basically the opposite of Rodman. I can see Laimbeer, Salley, Mahorn, and a few other teammates he's had, but Steve and jud?
This is epic!! Never heard this story before! 😂 Got my own Rodman story. I had the privilege of being able to party w him back in…2010-11? maybe? Started off at Cheers, a bar in aft Lauderdale….Dennis buying 5 of us shots non stop….to all of a sudden having unimaginable amounts of some suspicious powder, (probably the ONLY reason I remember the little I do remember) to partying at Wet Willie’s in Miami to waking up in a random room in The Fontain Bleu….of course ALSO in Miami, next to Phoebe n Rachel (No bd, that what they SAID their names were) 😂 Who needs names anyway? I was very grateful I was only a decent cab ride (no Uber or Lyft then yet) away from my place in North Miami 😂 The second time at Cheers…not s as wild….just drinks n cigars n Dennis TRYING to play guitar when he went on stage n basically stole the dudes guitar n couldn’t play for SHIT!!!……and almost got kicked tf out for it (respectfully) as I turned down another spur of the moment, this time to Tampa trip. GREAT FUCKING TIMES.
@afdnowlin Idk about all of Florida, but my brother lived in Miami for a couple years and they indeed do all the hard drugs and wild stuff that you associate with Florida.
It happens 😂 I remember being stationed at ft Carson, and staying out to 2 sometimes 3 in the morning on the regular, knowing we had p.t. at 6.30am but we still did it lmao 😂😂
Chocked up a little at the end. Huge amount of respect gained and already respected you Hondo. Wow you are a magnificent human being and I'm lucky to have found your podcast
Rodman didnt lean on skill with the ball to play basketball; he just hustled and went hard at doing what he was skilled at, which was rebounding and defending.
Met Dennis and Mad Max...in Laguna Beach....Rasta nite....coolest cat ever...and Max...rounds for the house...very cool....just dont overwelm them...l was 6'5...270...x Marine...beyound cool...l told him he was goin to a first ballad...Hall of Famer...he got very emothional...l havent seen him since....he was beyound cool....
I like how I went 20 years without hardly ever hearing Gangsters paradise, and then randomly at some point I hear some iteration of it every day for the last 3 years. I think it all started when they put it in the Sonic movie
I think it's important for coaches to make it clear that there sometimes is a hierarchy among the players. Rules for all leadership is becoming more and more outdated.
Partying with Dennis at Crobar in Chicago was pretty cool and then being invited to his birthday party there was just crazy! Dude likes his miller lite.
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Had Kerr out in these streets just to win championships😂😂😂
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Its horrible ida been pissed I woulda needed that day off too bih
Punched and saving MJ too😂
Imagine going out to party with rodman, that’s gonna be an experience 😂
when he played on the mavericks my mom saw him at a bar
@@7tieryour mom got the 10 inch python
@@MrWewill11💀💀💀💀
@@7tieryeah she saw him alright 😂😂😂 getting split by that basketball pole
@@MrWewill11 she isn’t a stripper lol, it was just a bar. she told me he was weird but funny
Phil is diabolical. Rodman was probably the only one in good enough shape to actually practice. That was just another night for him 😂
That’s the reality. Rodman was bigger, taller, and supposedly slower than MJ in 1990 when they met in the ECF. But, his motor just kept on going that entire 7 games series, and also the next series guarding Magic who was bigger & stronger.
Phil has come out and said that Dennis Rodman was the best athlete he ever coached -- not the best player, obviously, but the best ATHLETE. He wasn't wrong. Rodman had freaky athleticism -- strength, speed, coordination, verticality, crazy motor, balance, body awareness...
Phil knew what the job was. The way he read his teams was uncanny. He always knew what each guy needed mentally in order to operate.
Phil probably low-key picked Kerr and Buechler because he knew they needed that too.
Phil’s nickname isn’t The Zen Master for no reason. Dude was a basketball genius and was amazing at managing people.
@@logicaldude3611why would Kerr and beuchler need it as well? Just curious
@@cjwrench07rodman wasn’t on that 90-91 championship team. Scottie checked magic that series. Thats how they won’t. Mike checked Magic G1 and the Lakers stole it. Mike got tired so they switched rest of the series.
"Dennis had the day off.." Geez, thanks Coach. You're welcome.
For real
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Lmao Dennis Rodman was on a different level. Did you really expect Kerr or any other to follow suit and play 100 the next day?
Yeah seems rude. I would be able to trust coach after that.
@@donavoncollins2891it was coaches idea bro 😭
"Later, suckers" . Dennis knew he was getting the day off the entire time.
Phil knew it too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Duh he wanted to test the waters with the rest of the team
Steve looked like he prepared to tell this story by reliving it three hours before.
😂😅 Yooooo!!!
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Great comment!!!!
Lmao!!!
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Phil Jackson was Jedi mind tricking everyone 😂😂😂😂
Right
😂😂😂😂😂
He studied Zen allegedly. Was known around the league as the Zen master.
@@009godspeedZen philosophy wouldn't tell players to go out and party. It's about peace balance calm love everything as one. Not harming your body or anything else
@@mojojojo6400 Zen isn't simply about that. I studied Zen.. You googled it. Never said he was a perfect example of a Zen student & never said he was a Zen "master" I said he "allegedly" studied Zen. Don't see why you tagged me. He obviously studied Zen to a degree he just "uses its teachings to his own personal gain"
Phil just had two white chaperones ensure Dennis’s return
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Interestingly enough, Denis Rodman (as far as I can tell) genuinely does not seem to have a racist bone in his body. He seems equally okay partying with anyone regardless of the color of their skin.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 brother what? why would he be racist....nobody even remotely implied that??🤣
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124interestingly enough??
Phil Jackson understood that being a championship winning NBA coach isn't being the best at Xs and Os. It's about strategy combined with personality management.
Agree. Best personality manager of all time.
Antonio Pierce understands that with the Raiders. Look at the shift of that franchise.
@@youin24years Yes, but does he understand the X's and O's of strategizing better than his opponent?
@@youin24years What shift? 🤣🤣🤣. He’s accomplished absolutely nothing yet. I’ll give him two years. Then we can have a better understanding of who he is as a HC.
Firstly, strategy is Xs and Os. Second, Phil Jackson coached like a dumbass in the 2008, encouraging Paul Pierce and Ray Allen corner threes because he thought it’d lead to Lamar Odom fastbreaks.
Kerr is looking like dehydrated SpongeBob out here
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Lmao wow
Its called aging we all do it be respectful
@@liamshupe10 "First Like" 😂
Wear sunscreen kids
Rodman is one of a kind.
Love his independent streak.
Draymond is similar in some ways, but not in partying and sleeping with Carmen Electra! 😂
The #1 rebounder of all time.... he's definitely a GOAT 🐐💯💪🏼
That's crazy Phil knew Dennis had the day off and he still had 2 other teammates go baby sit him and made them practice next day knowing how Dennis parties 😂
They weren’t there to babysit, they were there to be his friends and make Dennis feel apart of the team.
Phil also knew that Michael was gonna be busting that a#$ as if that practice was Game 6
@369pendulum Indeed , it's chess not checkers 😊
I don’t think that’s the story lol. When Phil saw the state Dennis was in, he gave him the day off, but he can’t start giving everybody the day off just because they partied with Rodman.
@@maxdurk4624if you ain’t ever party w Kim jong just say that
This is the kind of coach ai Allen Iverson needed.
What an era of basketball 😢
Jordan says: Rodman was the fittest guy from all the Bulls.
Jackson’s championship resume proves he was brilliant.
He knew how to handle his talent and keep teams together.
GOAT!
He sucked after 2003 and 2011 with lakers and Knicks
@@lucky889s9 Agreed, but 11 Championships is GOAT status to me all things considered.
Every coach has losing seasons at some point.
Phil Jackson is a genius. He most likely used to send players routinely to party with Rodman, so they wouldn't question his work rate. They experienced Rodman's party life, and this would end up leaving them wondering how the hell Rodman did what he did on the court.
Kerr is doing so well as a coach I forgot he played for the bulls in their prime
No player will ever top Rodman’s eccentricity. He’s the only dude that can pull women at a club stinking after a game.
The only reason he pulled any chicks was because money... You actually think any of these women would do anything with him if he stank, looked like that and had no money?
@@dukenukem69 Don't be so jealous
@@dukenukem69 money, fame, and reputation. Plus how much he had to stick out in a crowd. Rodman was and is crazy. I think I heard he was or is living in North Korea 😂.
@@jaykowsh1027 Assuming jealousy is the most played-out and unchecked defense mechanism on the internet. Did you even read what was said? Or are you actually of the belief that women aren't interested in money and fame and everything that goes with it?
@@thejanglezclan I'm sure they're interested in that. They're also interested in guys who have none of that if they're handsome, 6 foot 7 and in very good shape.
Party all night , then going to practice the next morning is a vibe 😂
Facts 😂😂 especially i was in college 😂😂 people who have never lived that life have no clue. Seeing people throw up two mins into practice was wild😂😂
@@johncovington3741 sweat smelling like beer 😂
And that's why I miss the old days dudes where just different not a shot at the youth today but that's why I say today nba spank OGs cuz the live in the gym
@@johncovington3741 I was about to say. It's all fun and games until those legs start moving and your stomach turns upside down 😂😂😂😂
Omm!...😭😭😭
I partied with rodman one time in vegas in 97. All I'll say is that man is one coolest people I've ever met and an absolute beast. When we walked outside the sun was coming up and he said he was going to take a shower and go to practice. I went straight to bed lol i don't know how he did it
Stop capping
Phil has a knack on getting the best out of his players because i think he treat each player as an individual and try to understand their mindset without the pushback and at the same time make them realize that their important and the team needs them like everyone else in the team.
Phil Jackson AKA Obi-Wan Kenobi was exactly like Dennis Rodman back in the day that's why they got along Dennis what's clearly in tune he just wanted to party the NBA season is it very tedious one and it's not for the faint of heart.
Coach Phil: Dennis is drifting away from the team, possibly because I keep giving him days off.
"Steph, Klay...i need you guys to go hang out with Draymond." 😂
😂😂
Fights every place he goes 😂
You just got Rodman’ed
Now that's some top level coaching & ppl management
It’s crazy how Phil was able to manage all their personalities so well. I mean I’m sure it was stressful as fuck for him at the time, especially as all their respective egos grew as they continued to win chips. But still he clearly knew how to handle each and every guy and how to cater to their needs to keep them focused.
It was awesome having Judd, Wennington, Kerr, and Randy Brown on the squad. Guys who knew their role, absolutely relished their opportunity when they had their short stints on the court, and were always laughing on the bench
As an Aussie who knows nothing about this sport, apart from watching the show ,,I think Steve kerr may have been the best person on the team
If you mean "best person" as in like upstanding, reliable, moral, and stuff like that then I honestly don't know. If you mean "best person" as in basketball player, then definitely not when Michael Jordan, the best to ever play the game of basketball, was on that team. So was Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippin. I'm not sure how well some of the 90s Jordan Bulls' teams would do in today's league with how easy it is to get called for a foul today and with being able to shoot a 3-pointer being so important today, but they would probably still be able to win the championship today (if they weren't all like over 50 years old or older lol).
He might have had his head on straight more than a lot of the other players...and a really good player. But definitely not the best one on the team. Jordan, Scottie Pippin, Rodman etc. And in that order most likely
@@emj1794Toni & BJ armstrong also.
Bulls had an Aussie player during those years, 7 foot 2 inch, Luc Longley.
And Dennis is off the next Day and they got practice in 2hrs after all nite with Rodman 😮😢🎉🎉 Team spirit 😅😅🎉
Rodman was a different animal. He probably played while drunk and high and still defend at a high level
Talk about "taking one for the team" smh these guy's did just that, literally! 😂😂
Imagine Jud and Steve having a wild night with Dennis Rodman, they seemed like the last 2 guy's you'd expect to be seen partying with Rodman.
They always appeared measured, reserved, etc etc basically the opposite of Rodman.
I can see Laimbeer, Salley, Mahorn, and a few other teammates he's had, but Steve and jud?
Rodman said he never had a long conversation with Jordan and Pippen, but he had been close with the bench guys on the Bulls
that would require someone to willingly spend time with Bill Laimbeer
He knew how Dennis was. Appreciate greatness when you aren't aware of the type of player Dennis is.
thats what a real coach is
Phil didn’t send them for Rodman to gel with his teammates. He sent them both to understand Rodman.
Wow you're so deep. It doesn't make any sense but ok.
Exactly....iykyk
Lol no tf he didn't haha dumbass take
Kerr is aging into Bill Murray
He looks 15 years older than his ex teammates😂
This is epic!! Never heard this story before! 😂
Got my own Rodman story. I had the privilege of being able to party w him back in…2010-11? maybe? Started off at Cheers, a bar in aft Lauderdale….Dennis buying 5 of us shots non stop….to all of a sudden having unimaginable amounts of some suspicious powder, (probably the ONLY reason I remember the little I do remember) to partying at Wet Willie’s in Miami to waking up in a random room in The Fontain Bleu….of course ALSO in Miami, next to Phoebe n Rachel (No bd, that what they SAID their names were) 😂 Who needs names anyway?
I was very grateful I was only a decent cab ride (no Uber or Lyft then yet) away from my place in North Miami 😂
The second time at Cheers…not s as wild….just drinks n cigars n Dennis TRYING to play guitar when he went on stage n basically stole the dudes guitar n couldn’t play for SHIT!!!……and almost got kicked tf out for it (respectfully) as I turned down another spur of the moment, this time to Tampa trip.
GREAT FUCKING TIMES.
Lucky guy
Does everyone in Florida toot powder? Cuz y'all definitely act like it 😂
@afdnowlin Idk about all of Florida, but my brother lived in Miami for a couple years and they indeed do all the hard drugs and wild stuff that you associate with Florida.
@@afdnowlin snow is very much associated with most parts of the sunshine state. That's probably part of the reason we don't pay state taxes lol
@@ItsMaddenBarss 😂 well if it's for the good of the economy...
It happens 😂 I remember being stationed at ft Carson, and staying out to 2 sometimes 3 in the morning on the regular, knowing we had p.t. at 6.30am but we still did it lmao 😂😂
It seems Steve and Jed were the ones he was working on. Unbeknownst to them.
and people are missing that
Typical Phil killing multiple birds with one stone.
Phil Jackson wasn’t just a coach he was a friend and he knew what it took to keep players happy and what they needed to get the best out of them.
that would be a wild wild west party😂
Dennis Rodman was at Turning Point in Paterson NJ very down to earth dude Beautiful Spirit
Classic Rodman, calculated and choreographed like a mother.
I love Steve Kerr a mans man👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Phil was a genius. Moved by a higher power 😊
imagine a coaches assignment is to go party with dennis rodman... "put me in coach"
Chocked up a little at the end. Huge amount of respect gained and already respected you Hondo. Wow you are a magnificent human being and I'm lucky to have found your podcast
Gangsters paradise in the background 👌🏻
Dennis be wanting to party, and you GOT to tell him NO! 😭😭😭😭
This is gold!!!
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Phill was a brilliant mind no doubt coached two of the best to ever play the game 💯
Lmao, oh boy I can imagine the fun that they had with Dennis😂😂
Phil and Rodman, set them up!!! Loosen up two squares! 😂
Now That’s The Kinda Coach Every Player Needs Someone Whom Gets To Know and Really Cares About Their Players 💣💥💥
What a coach. Those things go beyond the basketball court but it made the team closer
Coach was a savage, asked them to party with the man, and still made them practice..🫡🫵🏽🤣😝
Dennis was a menace 😂
Rodman didnt lean on skill with the ball to play basketball; he just hustled and went hard at doing what he was skilled at, which was rebounding and defending.
AYEEE.. WHY MY HOMETOWN?? JUST FVCKIN ROUND, I KNOW YALL HAD A BLAST… A•C UP IN THIS MF!!!💯💯💯
I want you guys to go hang out and party with Denni.. 🏃♂️💨
The more party the more he comes back with power partypower
Best night of Kerr's life 😂
I'm glad to have witnessed this basketball era. Love this current era too but the 90s were edge of the couch type of 📺
Phil sends the 2 most expendable guys to party with Rodman, you know damn well he wasn't asking Jordan, Pippen or Kukoc 😂😂😂
The amount of crazy stories with Dennis... Lol. Party and play hard!!!
Met Dennis and Mad Max...in Laguna Beach....Rasta nite....coolest cat ever...and Max...rounds for the house...very cool....just dont overwelm them...l was 6'5...270...x Marine...beyound cool...l told him he was goin to a first ballad...Hall of Famer...he got very emothional...l havent seen him since....he was beyound cool....
U of A style togetherness!!!...BD
I love these 90s Bulls stories😂😂
That’s some good teammates 💪🏼🥳😂😬🥳
Rodman was a unicorn 🦄 Absolute beast in every sense 🙏
Now… that is a good head cosch. Cares about the team and their stars. Love to see
No wonder he’s so calm with Draymond Green😂😂😂😂
Well now I know Steve Kerr wears makeup during games. You learn something new every day
Phil: hey steve you need to cool off after your scuffle with mike. Go hang out with dennis
the fact they werent in the hospital on a banana bag a piece while Rodman was still g2g shows that theyre true athletes
They thought Phil was doing this for Rodman’s sake, but it was actually to get Steve to loosen up 😂
I like how I went 20 years without hardly ever hearing Gangsters paradise, and then randomly at some point I hear some iteration of it every day for the last 3 years. I think it all started when they put it in the Sonic movie
Phil understood what each player needed, it’s not fair however every players value is different and they know that if they’re keeping it a buck.
😂😂😂😂😂 SUM REAL DENNIS THE MENACE SHIDDDD LMAOOOO
dennis always had the day off😂
Their wild night with Dennis was an average night for Dennis
I forget that at one point, they all played together.
What an awesome story!
Hey Phil did whatever it took to win a championship 😂. Shit he even married genie buss 🤣.
😂😂😂
Phil : “who told you to go to N Korea ?!!
Steve : “um …. You did “
Kerr got played, Phil wanted them to "loosen up" and used Rodman to make it so 😂😂😂
Can't wait for Bronny partying with LeBron stories.
The Worm helped my BELOVED PISTONS,repeat, and it should've been a three peat.
What's even funnier is that Dennis could've still actually made it through practice without any issue haha
Going to AC with Dennis Rodman sounds like a sick time 😂
I think it's important for coaches to make it clear that there sometimes is a hierarchy among the players. Rules for all leadership is becoming more and more outdated.
I know MJ was giving Kerr hell at that practice😂
“Are we cooked?? No I don’t think so. What’s my hair routine??”
Partying with Dennis at Crobar in Chicago was pretty cool and then being invited to his birthday party there was just crazy! Dude likes his miller lite.
Phil Jackson the mastermind
God damn Kerr aging like milk.
U will too boy
Go sit with the same lighting on you and take a look.
@bobabooey4537 oh yeah I'm 30 and look 50
Are you autistic?
His favote Phil Jackson story is a Dennis Rodman story. 😂
Dawg Rodman was smart af back then 😂 moral of the story...do ur fkn JOB n you get left alone 💯
It shows how important Rodman was to the 3 peat
So glad Phil would allow his players to let loose. Thry needed that time away to re group and live normal for a day or so