HOA are a huge joke. I have a friend who had a house that was never part of a HOA. as the area built up around him they formed a HOA and he never agreed to join never paid a cent to them not even once. then here they come telling him how his house needs to be painted what he can have outside. they tried everything he ended up going away on vacation and when he got home his locks were all changed the HOA did a fast one and found a judge who said he was un compliant and they seized his house to pay for the HOA dues. and they rented out his house. well were they ever in for a shock when he came back home. not only did he have the tenants who were in there illegally and the HOA stole his property he went to a judge will all evidence and had an order to evict the tenants that day. since he never rented out the house that HE BUILT. and owed outright. now they owe hom some major $$$ for there f-up and crime.
@@mattyodotcom sorry dude but this is what happened. this is not the first time i have seen shit like this happening. heck just look around there are stories a lot like my friends
Lord Acton got it slightly wrong - it’s not that power corrupts, the problem is that power is irresistibly attractive to the easily corrupted. Someone who seeks power solely because they want power is the person it is most important to ensure never gets it.
I guess the crooks use the fact that they were left up as defacto permanently attatched....crooks they are, hope they have to watch all their loved ones suffer nothing but the worst of everything life can throw at them.
They don't have to be permanent to be an architectural modification first of all. Secondly, they stated that they intended to leave them up permanently, which nullifies your entire argument because they then become permanent addition.
Unsightly refers to worn out, run down items, colors clashing etc. There isn't anything unsightly about sail shades that match the house plus backing to the desert
all that so dumb kids who cant sit in the sun for more then a "quick spurt" can have shade? what a world we live in tell ya in my days kids didnt need "sail shades that matched the house" to swing on a gay little rope...
@@chronicawareness9986 It's pretty obvious that you have idea how things are in arid/semi-arid places cuz if you did, you'd know that it has nothing to do with spoiled children who don't want to play in the sun. You probably live in an area of the country that has a lot of trees that provide plenty of shade....take a took at the picture they took from overhead. Look at the land behind the houses. See any trees? See any grass for that matter? And the sun can be so brutal that the kids would end up with terrible sunburns from playing in the sun for more than a short period. If the heat stroke doesn't get to them first since it's not like they're sitting still. They're little kids who want to run around and play and running around gets than even hotter. All I'm saying is maybe you should make sure you know what the hell you're talking about before you start talking shit. It makes you look foolish.
@@pk7190 very true. I'm from AZ and the UV rays are so strong here that you can get sunburnt in 10 minutes sitting in direct sunlight. Nevada is just as bad. Kids here rarely play outside in the summer
Things like this are the reason I sold my house in Henderson. Wanted to paint my window shutters. HOA says they must review the changes before they will ALLOW me to paint. By the way, I wanted them the SAME color they were. First, they told me I could not paint them myself. Okay, hired painters to do the job. Then, they made me wait for their determination. Finally, after over 3 weeks HOA said I could procede. But I had to use a painter from their short list of approved vendors. I had already hired a painter, so I had to pay TWICE to get the job done! I think you can see where this is going. So, to paint 6 shutters in the same color cost me a bit over $800!!! Within a month I had my house up for sale. I do not like Nazis of ANY kind! Will never live in an HOA community again. E V E R !!!!!
Oh hell no. As someone who does literally everything themselves I could never. That’s equivalent to someone saying you can’t change a headlight bulb on your car, you have to hire someone to do it for 1000x the cost. Glad you’re out of there.
I never thought of that particular word, before, to describe the HOAs, but now that I have read it, I think that is the perfect word for them. You are absolutely right. IDK who ever thought HOAs would be a good idea to invent, but it was a frikkin' TERRIBLE idea. I hate HOAs!
To any young families out there, do not buy a home with a hoa. They own you, not the other way around. I’m a plumbing contractor and have been to hundreds of homes, the restrictions given to homes with hoas are ridiculous. I don’t care how many pools they have, it’s not worth it.
There are getting to be fewer and fewer places that don't have them, at least in the Phoenix area. HOAs are taking over everywhere, whether we like it or not. I wish I could afford to buy a mansion soon my own property far from any HOA's area of control, but that just isn't my current reality, unfortunately. 🤷♀️
All brand new homes have got HOA in Vegas now, i'm glad we bought an older home ( built in 85) funky paint, no huge problems everything fixable and NO HOA!
As a Certified Appraiser and a Realtor I am always trying to warn buyers about buying a house in an HOA, but they never listen. If the HOA gets taken over by greedy people, it not only is hell to live with and costly, but it will eventually tank the values really bad because they usually raise the dues to high as well.
my home is on the corner at the entrance to a subdivision, I was there for 11 years before the subdivision was built and my property is not a part of that. The residents wrongly assumed I was part of their subdivision and I started hearing complaints about my property. I went to the court house and obtained a copy of the subdivision platt and then made a copy of my platt and mailed them both to the HOA with no accompanying explanation. All has been quiet on the home front since.
I lived in a neighborhood with HOA once. Just once. I will never do it again! Every week a little group of older women would walk the neighborhood. The kept rulers in their pockets and little cameras! I saw them check my grass every single week. Nothing like waking up to a group of women trying to find your grass in ANY spot to be over 1 inch long😑
I would have made sure at least once when they were going through doing that stuff, that I was mowing my lawn that day and squirted the grass clippings at them on one pass. When they bitched about it, I would have apologized to them for the careless mistake and gone about mowing my lawn. Though yes getting out was the best thing you could have done kudos and two thumbs waay up for doing that. The house my dad owns is across the street from where at one time an HOA stoolie lived. We got no end of complaints about things and one time in order to get the complaint retracted my dad literally had to show these old bitties who came out and he showed them the only way they could have found that violation was if they came onto the property to such a degree it could be considered trespassing. Then all of suddenly the complaints...stop coming. Just out of the blue stopped. We a few years later we found out from some our other neighbors who had been living their longer than us that the old woman who lived there, well she died. To add insult to injury,(at least karma wise for her) it turns out the woman had fallen for that reverse mortgage scam that banks were pushing back in the early 2000s.
I lived in the countryside, I lived in cities, I lived in towns,I even lived in a village. What the what does a homeowners association even offer to its members?
They care for the common areas of the neighborhoods. For example, the higher end ones typically have fancy landscaping, private security, a wall with a gate in it, etc.
That is a lovely idea, but it will never happen, given the number of homes available without HOAs and the number of people in need of homes. Almost every home in the Phoenix area is in an HOA, and Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the U.S., and still people keep moving here (especially from California).
@furlow this is due the homeless issue. CA is becoming a 3rd world country due this issue. that is why everybody is happy to get a house even if it is run by a mafia like HOA
That's hilarious! 😂 It reminds me of my own living situation, in a way, which I can hardly wait to get out of, because it has gotten beyond ridiculous!
I specifically sought out a home that was not governed by an HOA. I have seen HOA abuse and power over-reach negativity affect so many people I know. Just like any group of people given a little bit of power over other, these HOA boards are arbitrary, abusive, and often serve no real purpose, but to harass people and cause disharmony. It’s disgraceful.
@@beamills9205 Sadly they are also growing. New construction has been focused on homes under HOAs. Oligarchs are monopolizing land and creating a totalitarianism system. HOAs are going to kill America.
I’ve lived in a HOA condo for 23 years. The management company needs to be reigned in. The HOA management company works for the community. But they seem to find one horses patutti neighbor and listen to them.
Things like this start when someone running the HOA has some sort of "life event". Their life is some way becomes out of their perceived control. So, they do what other people do at times. Usually they take it out on fast food workers, something like that. BUT! "IF" they have a position like this then they start running the HOA like it is their own personal fiefdom. I believe that in order to have any such position (especially in a HOA) these individuals must first undergo a complete psychiatric evaluation. And for anyone who disagree, these home owners have a right to the best and most competent person for the job. Owning a home is Exactly like running a business. Now, if you have a bar or even a restaurant that serves the odd drink don't you have a right to know if said person you are hiring to run that business in an alcoholic or has other co-existing addictions as well. Yes, you do. Also, you need to know that this is a person who is capable of interacting not only with your customers but your employees as well as the surrounding community in general. You cannot make the mistake of hiring someone who is not only an addict or a recovering one but who also has anger management issues/personality disorders/history of violence of Any kind.
HOA has only one argument: "if Karen doesn't like it, it must go." If Karen grew up with 5 brothers who were all into old cars she would be too, therefore OK.
This is exactly what happened to me. I am now ordered to pay over $35 to HOA lawyer fees. The history: board members HOA, put fraud charges on my ledger… I kept paying the charges, thinking there was legit problems, or some thing since I did not live in the same state, I believed them. I later moved into that condo and went to my first meeting and realized that there is a problem in the building and not my condo. I asked for the receipts because I paid for some thing I should’ve never paid. Very quickly, I realized that there is some thing fraudulent going on specially when I reached out to the plumbing companies and requested the original receipts that I paid for. HOA board members erased. All the bills were addressed to and hand written my address. Therefore, I always thought it was my bills. Later I find out that it was one of the board members sister bills that I paid. The more I asked from the board to present documents and asked them questions on who is on the board if they had a cam who is there treasurer and who holds what position and I pretty much begged to meet up and talk to me to address this situation and resolve it. On Thanksgiving holiday around 4 PM they decided to tape a ledger to my door with these fraud charges late fees not to mention I already paid, and fine fees. Later I found out that find fees was for not handing them the lease, and that I had supposedly more than required number of people living inside the unit. Clearly, the fine fees are fraud because I am the owner and I moved inside my own unit with my son. I also noticed some attorney fee on my ledger over $200 not sure for what. The board clearly was harassing me because I caught them committing fraud to me and questioned them about it. I start getting letters from the lawyer that they have hired saying, I owe money for all of these charges, and now lawyer fees. Upon asking the lawyer for receipts they slowly removed some of the charges, because clearly they couldn’t prove it. However, they kept adding they own lawyer fees to my ledger. They sent me different delinquency’s, and later ended up filing a lien against my property, which was also invalid, since it did not follow the rules of the law, no proper date no proper amounts, or even company name which did not exist. Also, failing to serve me, or even send me a copy of the lien. About two months later, they send me a letter that I owe money and attached a lien to the back of it. I re-searched with the lien is and found out that after filing a lien, you only have 90 days to respond to. Clearly, I did not have the full 90 days since I never received the lien to begin with. With a short amount of time I was able to file my lien dispute. The HOA lawyer ended up filing a complaint 01/08/2020. I respond to that complaint. On 08/05/2021 which is 18 months later, they requested a hearing date. To be honest, I was surprised, because so long time pass by. I thought they already moved on and realize they made a mistake or something. During this hearing the judge orders is mediation. Mediation did not work out and the agreement was not reached. During t On 08/13/2021 I filed counter claim On 12/16/2021 we have another hearing, but not on my counter. Claim this hearing was for the plaintiffs summary judgment for their lawyer fees. Which, supposedly they filed on 11/19/2021 less than 40 days prior to the hearing hearing. As per the law, it states it has to be more than 40 days. Either way, the hearing that took place I get served with this summary judgment and the plaintiff claims it’s a courtesy copy that I have not gotten. I brought it up to the judges attention, and the plaintive did not have evidence that he served me or sent me a copy of it. The judge then responded by saying if I make him refile, it will just cost more money. As you can see, I did not get a fair hearing, during this, hearing, none of my responses crossed claims or counterclaim, was even acknowledged. I never had a voice. During this hearing that clearly I was not prepared for due to obvious reasons, the plaintive presented a portion of my ledger claiming I owe for December and that they are not suing me for fine fees, plumbing charges. They are saving that for the later date. I wonder if they are allowed to change their position like that and then sue me for something that they were not suing me before for. As far as them saying, I owe that for December is completely false as I was already pre-paid till the end of that year I wrote a check in October paying for October, November and December but not like I was able to present that. I had no choice but to hire a lawyer at that point the judge ordered me to put $15,000 on bond while we go through appeal process. eventually appeal is denied without a reason. And ordered me to pay now additional HOA lawyer fees for appeal. I am now 50 grand in debt I got completely robbed throughout this whole process never had a voice never had a chance, never had a fair trial, which I should’ve gotten. I hope for someone to look into my case and help me.
I have found that most hoas are run by small minded people who lack any real standing in life and live for the feel of power over others. They love to nit pick and live for finding "violations" that they claim take away from the beauty of the neighborhood....
I’m glad HOAs aren’t really much of a thing in the Midwest where I now live. When I lived on the west coast it seemed like most of the newer subdivisions had HOAs.
Here's the thing, I understand HOAs for keeping out people that trash everything, and leave junk outside, or let their lawns go crazy. They don't want their neighbourhood looking trashed. That makes sense. However, why can't you have shades up? Why does everyone have to have the same fence? They bought the house, and as long as it doesn't look terrible because the owner isn't taking care of it, I don't understand the issue.
I’m going though something very similar in San Diego,CA. Harassment, bullying, selective enforcement of the rules, and discrimination. I can’t afford to move... it’s like living in hell... with a pool.
I looked on Google Maps. The sails as shown are NOT up. It is pretty blurry, but there might be another shade device on the back of the property. This video is almost 5 years old - I hope that the family got out of there!
So many comments revealing a lack of general knowledge of HOAs. No one completes a home purchase to suddenly discover that they're part of an HOA; it's all clear in purchase and escrow documents. Decision is one's to make, but if you buy in to an HOA one simply does need to read the agreement. In over 15 years I received only one notice from my HOA, to remove remodeling/construction supplies from my driveway since they had been there over 30 days; project took longer then planned. Moving everything to backyard was a PITA but I accepted it, as I as well don't want driveways and front yards on my street to become storage sights for cars, old washers, or stacks of lumber. I can't choose exterior paint color, but at same time I have no worries that neighbor will suddenly paint their exterior in a Green Bay Packers color scheme, or just never paint at all. Terrific neighbors, neighborhood, and HOA very well managed to everyone's benefit. Like anything, add up the positives and negatives, and then make a choice.
My HOA complained that I parked my truck on the street facing the wrong direction in front of my house. So I started driving my truck every day and parked it on the front lawn from that day forward. Apparently they didn't have a rule that would cover that cuz I never heard another word.
When you execute your contract for a new home purchase in a subdivision, make certain the contact specifically states "NO HOA" ...Then, prior to signing the contract have an attorney review the contract and attach and amendment stating that the property your are purchasing will NOT BE BOUND by any future HOA'S that may be agreed upon buy surrounding tenants or subdivisions.
i bought an acre+, farm house 8 miles from town......fenced it, locked gate, have stately oaks, shade, plant what i want, have dogs, painted my house teal with cream trim.....one neighbor had a problem with it.......TOO BAD !......
I do not think a lot of people that live n Nevada in an HOA know about the Ombudsman from the Real Estate Division. Even if they do not take your case they will still try and let you and the HOA know who is right and wrong in a situation according to bylaws. They are a great sounding board. It was a great thing that the State of Nevada put in place 10-15 years ago.
That's such bullshit. They matched the house and actually looked pretty good. Boy I'm so glad I bought a place on two acres out on the edge of nowhere, where there's no HOA.
Putting up shades can cut energy costs? Why didnt anyone tell me about this!? I couldve been enjoying my "social distancing" (im an introvert so it doesnt matter) outside! Stupid HOA.
We live in a HOA subdivision for 12 years and so far so good. Never had an increase in our $20 mthly dues. No heavy handed rules & no bad encounters w/ them so far. But I also question why they exist. They have no use, just another red tape for homeowners!!
It blows my mind that a Hard Working American Home Owner, spends so much money on their homes, maintain them well and in good order, just to have a Nazi HOA pester and harass them endlessly for ridiculous shit. I'd recommend fighting it, getting on the HOA yourself and doing anyway with ridiculous things like this, or move out to a community that has common sense. So sorry you had to go thru this.
My POA (more like POS right?) just told me they're gonna cut down my tree because its blocking one of the high and mighty boardmember's view of the night sky. I'm still in shock, i told em get off the phone and leave me alone
Hell mine has ME going around picking up the boardmember's dog doodies. Or I will "incur" random fines .... Ever since that rat bastard Chad McChadderson got elected he's been running things like a drunken frat boy on acid.
you know, my friend lived in an HOA neighborhood for a while, he went through a similar issue, a tree in his back yard. i fixed it by wrapping 2 inch in diameter security chains around the tree. they tried to cut the chains but they where too thick, actually broke their cutters! they then tried to sue my friend for breaking their cutters only to be sued right back because they damaged my chains (there was a tiny scratch on them T_T) i won. best part is they dont have any rules against the chains. the only way they can say anything about them is if they rust (they are coated in bed liner) so they couldn't do shit.
It must be the HOA Gestapo in combination with how the police operates that combines into that lovely "America - land of the free". This is pure terror! 🤪
IF you purchase in an HOA community, how can you complain? this has been going on for years....when i was moving back home, friends could not believe i wasn't going with an HOA home......NEVER !
Bought a house in a new subdivision and unfortunately the subdivision and every other new subdivision in the area is ruled by an HOA. I've lived there for over a year now and I've received one friendly ''reminder'' to mow my lawn. Other than that, I don't associate with any of the neighbors or attend meetings or anything.
I actually live in a very nice and reasonably priced HOA. They just maintain common grounds and never interfere. We are in AZ and our town is right next to the Air Force Base, so a few residents (including our son) are AF and so HOA’s here toe the line! 😁
Is there any chance you can put us in contact with a reporter who cares enough about owner's rights to cover a multi-HOA mess in California? Property manager gone wild 🙈 🙊 🐵
The downside to their Hall of Shame is that it will make a lot of people not wanting to live there, defeating the ultimate purpose of the HOA: keeping house value.
HOA are a huge joke. I have a friend who had a house that was never part of a HOA. as the area built up around him they formed a HOA and he never agreed to join never paid a cent to them not even once. then here they come telling him how his house needs to be painted what he can have outside. they tried everything he ended up going away on vacation and when he got home his locks were all changed the HOA did a fast one and found a judge who said he was un compliant and they seized his house to pay for the HOA dues. and they rented out his house. well were they ever in for a shock when he came back home. not only did he have the tenants who were in there illegally and the HOA stole his property he went to a judge will all evidence and had an order to evict the tenants that day. since he never rented out the house that HE BUILT. and owed outright. now they owe hom some major $$$ for there f-up and crime.
Darkwing Lance woow is this real?
@@isailopez4132 yep this is now 5 years ago since this all happened
How?
@@blue123111 ????????
@@mattyodotcom sorry dude but this is what happened. this is not the first time i have seen shit like this happening. heck just look around there are stories a lot like my friends
"Why the double standard?"
". . . Because they're fools?"
I'm dying. 😂😂😂😂
Yeah it was a good comeback, but the truth is they're worse than fools, they're assholes.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Best response possible
Sarah Hamed it’s true
Just buy your own house already. These joke companies can set out to suck your wallet dry even if you know you're doing everything right.
I’m convinced these HOA presidents get a cut from every fine they collect on..
There was one prosecuted for embezzlement recently that gave herself exactly that!
And "dues"
The current HOA model gives too much power to too few people. In turn fostering the most corrupt and repugnant personalities
Charlie WhiteSky all hoa models are garbage
Lord Acton got it slightly wrong - it’s not that power corrupts, the problem is that power is irresistibly attractive to the easily corrupted.
Someone who seeks power solely because they want power is the person it is most important to ensure never gets it.
a microcosm of communism ie socialism it democrat party ie liberals ie anti american and everything america stands for
I agree with you 💯
Two phrases that instantly turn me off to a place is: "gated community" and "HOA". I like to control my own property.
So do I. I hate it when I know I'm doing everything right and then somebody's setting out to take my money or something away from me.
Since they weren't permanently attached, they weren't an architectural modification.
I guess the crooks use the fact that they were left up as defacto permanently attatched....crooks they are, hope they have to watch all their loved ones suffer nothing but the worst of everything life can throw at them.
They don't have to be permanent to be an architectural modification first of all. Secondly, they stated that they intended to leave them up permanently, which nullifies your entire argument because they then become permanent addition.
@@newzerozeroone them being there permanently doesn't make them permanent additions. They're furnishings, not architectural modifications.
Unsightly refers to worn out, run down items, colors clashing etc. There isn't anything unsightly about sail shades that match the house plus backing to the desert
all that so dumb kids who cant sit in the sun for more then a "quick spurt" can have shade? what a world we live in tell ya in my days kids didnt need "sail shades that matched the house" to swing on a gay little rope...
did you live in nevada? even so what a dumb thing to say
@@chronicawareness9986 It's pretty obvious that you have idea how things are in arid/semi-arid places cuz if you did, you'd know that it has nothing to do with spoiled children who don't want to play in the sun. You probably live in an area of the country that has a lot of trees that provide plenty of shade....take a took at the picture they took from overhead. Look at the land behind the houses. See any trees? See any grass for that matter? And the sun can be so brutal that the kids would end up with terrible sunburns from playing in the sun for more than a short period. If the heat stroke doesn't get to them first since it's not like they're sitting still. They're little kids who want to run around and play and running around gets than even hotter. All I'm saying is maybe you should make sure you know what the hell you're talking about before you start talking shit. It makes you look foolish.
@@pk7190 very true. I'm from AZ and the UV rays are so strong here that you can get sunburnt in 10 minutes sitting in direct sunlight. Nevada is just as bad. Kids here rarely play outside in the summer
Chronic Awareness they live ima ducking desert you judgmental douche.
Things like this are the reason I sold my house in Henderson. Wanted to paint my window shutters. HOA says they must review the changes before they will ALLOW me to paint. By the way, I wanted them the SAME color they were. First, they told me I could not paint them myself. Okay, hired painters to do the job. Then, they made me wait for their determination. Finally, after over 3 weeks HOA said I could procede. But I had to use a painter from their short list of approved vendors. I had already hired a painter, so I had to pay TWICE to get the job done! I think you can see where this is going. So, to paint 6 shutters in the same color cost me a bit over $800!!! Within a month I had my house up for sale. I do not like Nazis of ANY kind! Will never live in an HOA community again. E V E R !!!!!
Oh hell no. As someone who does literally everything themselves I could never.
That’s equivalent to someone saying you can’t change a headlight bulb on your car, you have to hire someone to do it for 1000x the cost.
Glad you’re out of there.
Bet you their list of approved painters were their own friends or families and they got a cut.💀
I never thought of that particular word, before, to describe the HOAs, but now that I have read it, I think that is the perfect word for them. You are absolutely right. IDK who ever thought HOAs would be a good idea to invent, but it was a frikkin' TERRIBLE idea. I hate HOAs!
We don't need a permit from the city to paint,HOA is not a loud to do more than the city asks.
To any young families out there, do not buy a home with a hoa. They own you, not the other way around. I’m a plumbing contractor and have been to hundreds of homes, the restrictions given to homes with hoas are ridiculous. I don’t care how many pools they have, it’s not worth it.
I'll never understand why people move into HOAs. The news is full of stories like this.
@@user-bz8sx7cc6e I don't mean to brag or anything--in fact I understand your disappointment--but I've never EVER touched an HOA in my life.
There are getting to be fewer and fewer places that don't have them, at least in the Phoenix area. HOAs are taking over everywhere, whether we like it or not. I wish I could afford to buy a mansion soon my own property far from any HOA's area of control, but that just isn't my current reality, unfortunately. 🤷♀️
All brand new homes have got HOA in Vegas now, i'm glad we bought an older home ( built in 85) funky paint, no huge problems everything fixable and NO HOA!
As a Certified Appraiser and a Realtor I am always trying to warn buyers about buying a house in an HOA, but they never listen. If the HOA gets taken over by greedy people, it not only is hell to live with and costly, but it will eventually tank the values really bad because they usually raise the dues to high as well.
my home is on the corner at the entrance to a subdivision, I was there for 11 years before the subdivision was built and my property is not a part of that. The residents wrongly assumed I was part of their subdivision and I started hearing complaints about my property. I went to the court house and obtained a copy of the subdivision platt and then made a copy of my platt and mailed them both to the HOA with no accompanying explanation. All has been quiet on the home front since.
Never buy in HOA. Like helloooooo
I lived in a neighborhood with HOA once. Just once. I will never do it again! Every week a little group of older women would walk the neighborhood. The kept rulers in their pockets and little cameras! I saw them check my grass every single week. Nothing like waking up to a group of women trying to find your grass in ANY spot to be over 1 inch long😑
Why would you love like that? Sheesh!!
I would then always sit on my porch cleaning a sniper rifle to let them know
I would have made sure at least once when they were going through doing that stuff, that I was mowing my lawn that day and squirted the grass clippings at them on one pass. When they bitched about it, I would have apologized to them for the careless mistake and gone about mowing my lawn. Though yes getting out was the best thing you could have done kudos and two thumbs waay up for doing that.
The house my dad owns is across the street from where at one time an HOA stoolie lived. We got no end of complaints about things and one time in order to get the complaint retracted my dad literally had to show these old bitties who came out and he showed them the only way they could have found that violation was if they came onto the property to such a degree it could be considered trespassing. Then all of suddenly the complaints...stop coming. Just out of the blue stopped. We a few years later we found out from some our other neighbors who had been living their longer than us that the old woman who lived there, well she died. To add insult to injury,(at least karma wise for her) it turns out the woman had fallen for that reverse mortgage scam that banks were pushing back in the early 2000s.
That's why I will never live in a HOA. I'm not having nobody tell me what to do with my property
Lucky you. I'm an independent homeowner as well. As far as I'm concerned, HOA's can **ck right off.
@B real property taxes pay for public services, and they dont tell you what you can or cant do
I lived in the countryside, I lived in cities, I lived in towns,I even lived in a village. What the what does a homeowners association even offer to its members?
They keep slumlords out. That's all they're good for. Some cut your grass for you and all that. The point is to keep out the worst people.
Headaches
They care for the common areas of the neighborhoods. For example, the higher end ones typically have fancy landscaping, private security, a wall with a gate in it, etc.
Godzilla Destroys Cities they are the worst people?
Yard maintenance.... I have a homegirl who just bought a house with HOA and I just shook my head.
HOA sounds like a nightmare.
Do not buy a house with an HOA . Put them
Out of business
Sparkle4me why
Sparkle4me is a Ghost 👻
That is a lovely idea, but it will never happen, given the number of homes available without HOAs and the number of people in need of homes. Almost every home in the Phoenix area is in an HOA, and Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the U.S., and still people keep moving here (especially from California).
I wonder how many HOA homes are sitting abandoned
Oh, they'll rent your house out from under you while you're still living there! And they will collect the rent, not you!
if your in CA, none. houses are selling like hotcakes still even in these prudish HOA areas.
@furlow
this is due the homeless issue. CA is becoming a 3rd world country due this issue.
that is why everybody is happy to get a house even if it is run by a mafia like HOA
Theres a gated community that is increasing Section 8 housing because nobody wants to buy under the HOA. They are extremely strict.
Not much.. people (particularly old people) like them because of the free lawn care, snow shoveling or whatever amenities they provide.
I’ll make sure when I purchase a house its HOA free.
In other words, it's "independent."
Zillowhas a "No HOA dues" checkbox on their house search site. Makes finding good houses a bit easier.
Next thing you know you're gonna have to fill out documents to get approval from the HOA to have intimate relations with your own spouse after 9pm!
Really ? Guess I'll only need a Permanent permission then,
That's hilarious! 😂 It reminds me of my own living situation, in a way, which I can hardly wait to get out of, because it has gotten beyond ridiculous!
I specifically sought out a home that was not governed by an HOA. I have seen HOA abuse and power over-reach negativity affect so many people I know. Just like any group of people given a little bit of power over other, these HOA boards are arbitrary, abusive, and often serve no real purpose, but to harass people and cause disharmony. It’s disgraceful.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE 70s.....WHY DO PEOPLE BUY INTO IT?
@@beamills9205 Sadly they are also growing. New construction has been focused on homes under HOAs. Oligarchs are monopolizing land and creating a totalitarianism system. HOAs are going to kill America.
They want to be able to see what you're doing in your backyard. What you're planting, etc.
Moral of the story never buy a house that has an HOA
I had a dream... I dream that one day all HOAs dissolved so that homeowners live in peace and tranquility!
as long as theres an Anna nearby we're all good.
I’ve lived in a HOA condo for 23 years. The management company needs to be reigned in. The HOA management company works for the community. But they seem to find one horses patutti neighbor and listen to them.
I love this HOA Hall of Shame series.
and you'll never hear anything thing from the "president"
Things like this start when someone running the HOA has some sort of "life event". Their life is some way becomes out of their perceived control. So, they do what other people do at times. Usually they take it out on fast food workers, something like that. BUT! "IF" they have a position like this then they start running the HOA like it is their own personal fiefdom. I believe that in order to have any such position (especially in a HOA) these individuals must first undergo a complete psychiatric evaluation. And for anyone who disagree, these home owners have a right to the best and most competent person for the job. Owning a home is Exactly like running a business. Now, if you have a bar or even a restaurant that serves the odd drink don't you have a right to know if said person you are hiring to run that business in an alcoholic or has other co-existing addictions as well. Yes, you do. Also, you need to know that this is a person who is capable of interacting not only with your customers but your employees as well as the surrounding community in general. You cannot make the mistake of hiring someone who is not only an addict or a recovering one but who also has anger management issues/personality disorders/history of violence of Any kind.
HOA has only one argument: "if Karen doesn't like it, it must go." If Karen grew up with 5 brothers who were all into old cars she would be too, therefore OK.
This is exactly what happened to me. I am now ordered to pay over $35 to HOA lawyer fees.
The history: board members HOA, put fraud charges on my ledger… I kept paying the charges, thinking there was legit problems, or some thing since I did not live in the same state, I believed them. I later moved into that condo and went to my first meeting and realized that there is a problem in the building and not my condo. I asked for the receipts because I paid for some thing I should’ve never paid. Very quickly, I realized that there is some thing fraudulent going on specially when I reached out to the plumbing companies and requested the original receipts that I paid for. HOA board members erased. All the bills were addressed to and hand written my address. Therefore, I always thought it was my bills. Later I find out that it was one of the board members sister bills that I paid. The more I asked from the board to present documents and asked them questions on who is on the board if they had a cam who is there treasurer and who holds what position and I pretty much begged to meet up and talk to me to address this situation and resolve it. On Thanksgiving holiday around 4 PM they decided to tape a ledger to my door with these fraud charges late fees not to mention I already paid, and fine fees. Later I found out that find fees was for not handing them the lease, and that I had supposedly more than required number of people living inside the unit. Clearly, the fine fees are fraud because I am the owner and I moved inside my own unit with my son. I also noticed some attorney fee on my ledger over $200 not sure for what. The board clearly was harassing me because I caught them committing fraud to me and questioned them about it. I start getting letters from the lawyer that they have hired saying, I owe money for all of these charges, and now lawyer fees. Upon asking the lawyer for receipts they slowly removed some of the charges, because clearly they couldn’t prove it. However, they kept adding they own lawyer fees to my ledger. They sent me different delinquency’s, and later ended up filing a lien against my property, which was also invalid, since it did not follow the rules of the law, no proper date no proper amounts, or even company name which did not exist. Also, failing to serve me, or even send me a copy of the lien. About two months later, they send me a letter that I owe money and attached a lien to the back of it. I re-searched with the lien is and found out that after filing a lien, you only have 90 days to respond to. Clearly, I did not have the full 90 days since I never received the lien to begin with. With a short amount of time I was able to file my lien dispute. The HOA lawyer ended up filing a complaint 01/08/2020. I respond to that complaint.
On 08/05/2021 which is 18 months later, they requested a hearing date. To be honest, I was surprised, because so long time pass by. I thought they already moved on and realize they made a mistake or something. During this hearing the judge orders is mediation. Mediation did not work out and the agreement was not reached.
During t
On 08/13/2021 I filed counter claim
On 12/16/2021 we have another hearing, but not on my counter. Claim this hearing was for the plaintiffs summary judgment for their lawyer fees. Which, supposedly they filed on 11/19/2021 less than 40 days prior to the hearing hearing. As per the law, it states it has to be more than 40 days. Either way, the hearing that took place I get served with this summary judgment and the plaintiff claims it’s a courtesy copy that I have not gotten. I brought it up to the judges attention, and the plaintive did not have evidence that he served me or sent me a copy of it. The judge then responded by saying if I make him refile, it will just cost more money. As you can see, I did not get a fair hearing, during this, hearing, none of my responses crossed claims or counterclaim, was even acknowledged. I never had a voice. During this hearing that clearly I was not prepared for due to obvious reasons, the plaintive presented a portion of my ledger claiming I owe for December and that they are not suing me for fine fees, plumbing charges. They are saving that for the later date. I wonder if they are allowed to change their position like that and then sue me for something that they were not suing me before for. As far as them saying, I owe that for December is completely false as I was already pre-paid till the end of that year I wrote a check in October paying for October, November and December but not like I was able to present that.
I had no choice but to hire a lawyer at that point the judge ordered me to put $15,000 on bond while we go through appeal process. eventually appeal is denied without a reason. And ordered me to pay now additional HOA lawyer fees for appeal. I am now 50 grand in debt I got completely robbed throughout this whole process never had a voice never had a chance, never had a fair trial, which I should’ve gotten.
I hope for someone to look into my case and help me.
I have found that most hoas are run by small minded people who lack any real standing in life and live for the feel of power over others. They love to nit pick and live for finding "violations" that they claim take away from the beauty of the neighborhood....
AKA democrats
@@kyleholmesWROM589 why?
@@lisabagdonjones1950 most nazi HOA members are registered democrats from up north
@@kyleholmesWROM589 Feel free to post support for that
Craig Seitz ugly ugly ugly????
It really sounds like HOA just making up rules as they go along
They need to be fully investigated.
I’m glad HOAs aren’t really much of a thing in the Midwest where I now live. When I lived on the west coast it seemed like most of the newer subdivisions had HOAs.
Here's the thing, I understand HOAs for keeping out people that trash everything, and leave junk outside, or let their lawns go crazy. They don't want their neighbourhood looking trashed. That makes sense. However, why can't you have shades up? Why does everyone have to have the same fence? They bought the house, and as long as it doesn't look terrible because the owner isn't taking care of it, I don't understand the issue.
I’m going though something very similar in San Diego,CA. Harassment, bullying, selective enforcement of the rules, and discrimination. I can’t afford to move... it’s like living in hell... with a pool.
I looked on Google Maps. The sails as shown are NOT up. It is pretty blurry, but there might be another shade device on the back of the property. This video is almost 5 years old - I hope that the family got out of there!
So many comments revealing a lack of general knowledge of HOAs. No one completes a home purchase to suddenly discover that they're part of an HOA; it's all clear in purchase and escrow documents. Decision is one's to make, but if you buy in to an HOA one simply does need to read the agreement.
In over 15 years I received only one notice from my HOA, to remove remodeling/construction supplies from my driveway since they had been there over 30 days; project took longer then planned. Moving everything to backyard was a PITA but I accepted it, as I as well don't want driveways and front yards on my street to become storage sights for cars, old washers, or stacks of lumber.
I can't choose exterior paint color, but at same time I have no worries that neighbor will suddenly paint their exterior in a Green Bay Packers color scheme, or just never paint at all.
Terrific neighbors, neighborhood, and HOA very well managed to everyone's benefit. Like anything, add up the positives and negatives, and then make a choice.
I have three trees in my front and back yard. They provide definite heat relief in the morning and afternoon.
This is why i am moving to the middle of the woods, where there is nice weather, Oregon probably.
My HOA complained that I parked my truck on the street facing the wrong direction in front of my house. So I started driving my truck every day and parked it on the front lawn from that day forward. Apparently they didn't have a rule that would cover that cuz I never heard another word.
HOA is ruining my daughters life right now...she owns a house and unfortunately they have been sending her letters that she owes fines...
When you execute your contract for a new home purchase in a subdivision, make certain the contact specifically states "NO HOA" ...Then, prior to signing the contract have an attorney review the contract and attach and amendment stating that the property your are purchasing will NOT BE BOUND by any future HOA'S that may be agreed upon buy surrounding tenants or subdivisions.
"Or from space" 😂😂😂 Was he being a smartass? I hope so cuz it's friggin funny.
There should be a hunting season for HOA board members.
You want to have the freedom you deserve being a home owner, move to the country. Fire the HOA board of directors.
i bought an acre+, farm house 8 miles from town......fenced it, locked gate, have stately oaks, shade, plant what i want, have dogs, painted my house teal with cream trim.....one neighbor had a problem with it.......TOO BAD !......
I do not think a lot of people that live n Nevada in an HOA know about the Ombudsman from the Real Estate Division. Even if they do not take your case they will still try and let you and the HOA know who is right and wrong in a situation according to bylaws. They are a great sounding board. It was a great thing that the State of Nevada put in place 10-15 years ago.
HOA Officers take their authority to an extreme, they are idiots with a little bit of authority! You’re NOT the SHERIFF!
Stalker paparazzi location, or space
I couldn't handle it lmao
I was involved in hoa problem there is only 5 town houses and 1 owner is the president and the other 2 are relatives who do maintenance and painting.
That's such bullshit. They matched the house and actually looked pretty good. Boy I'm so glad I bought a place on two acres out on the edge of nowhere, where there's no HOA.
Putting up shades can cut energy costs?
Why didnt anyone tell me about this!? I couldve been enjoying my "social distancing" (im an introvert so it doesnt matter) outside!
Stupid HOA.
We live in a HOA subdivision for 12 years and so far so good. Never had an increase in our $20 mthly dues. No heavy handed rules & no bad encounters w/ them so far. But I also question why they exist. They have no use, just another red tape for homeowners!!
HOA says, "You won't own anything and you'll be happy".
"Or possibly from space."
Did anyone else see that kid climbing the rope IN THE SUN while they are trying to say that the shades are there to keep the kids cooler?
what happened to the rights in life, liberty and property? it's the owner's property why are they being deprived of utilizing it?
Inu_ Sensei you sign those away when you move into an hoa neighborhood, literally.
@@commoguru wow. Such hypocrites.
I rented a place in a HOA area and it was a nightmare.
If you have an HOA have an HOA attorney
hOA's are common in states with low/no taxes because they take care of areas and services that would typically be done by the m unicipality
There's no way I could live like that.
If I buy an hoa house, I'm spending all my free time polishing guns on the patio and smoking cigars
Smoking bad for your health mmk
@@georgegreen3470 so is everything else so what's your point?
And play the banjo just to complete the piss off of the HOA
Its there god damn house home owners that’s like saying I can’t add extra light outside. Or paint it my color of choice
Why would anyone stay in a place that has a HOA? I have heard millions stories about them.
Attorney Bruce Flammey will be played by famous actor Stephen Root in the made-for-TV movie.
That's why I own all my land and no one can tell me what I can or can't do.
Was this really worth doing a segment on?
It blows my mind that a Hard Working American Home Owner, spends so much money on their homes, maintain them well and in good order, just to have a Nazi HOA pester and harass them endlessly for ridiculous shit. I'd recommend fighting it, getting on the HOA yourself and doing anyway with ridiculous things like this, or move out to a community that has common sense. So sorry you had to go thru this.
My POA (more like POS right?) just told me they're gonna cut down my tree because its blocking one of the high and mighty boardmember's view of the night sky. I'm still in shock, i told em get off the phone and leave me alone
Hell mine has ME going around picking up the boardmember's dog doodies. Or I will "incur" random fines .... Ever since that rat bastard Chad McChadderson got elected he's been running things like a drunken frat boy on acid.
JimBobthe Impaler wow thats ridiculous. It sucks but its nice to see im not the only one dealing with this nonsense
you know, my friend lived in an HOA neighborhood for a while, he went through a similar issue, a tree in his back yard. i fixed it by wrapping 2 inch in diameter security chains around the tree. they tried to cut the chains but they where too thick, actually broke their cutters! they then tried to sue my friend for breaking their cutters only to be sued right back because they damaged my chains (there was a tiny scratch on them T_T) i won. best part is they dont have any rules against the chains. the only way they can say anything about them is if they rust (they are coated in bed liner) so they couldn't do shit.
Ppl who move into areas that have an HOA, are ppl who miss having a landlord.
I’m so fuckin happy my neighborhood doesn’t have an HOA
It must be the HOA Gestapo in combination with how the police operates that combines into that lovely "America - land of the free". This is pure terror! 🤪
It like these homeowners have no rights
IF you purchase in an HOA community, how can you complain? this has been going on for years....when i was moving back home, friends could not believe i wasn't going with an HOA home......NEVER !
Bought a house in a new subdivision and unfortunately the subdivision and every other new subdivision in the area is ruled by an HOA. I've lived there for over a year now and I've received one friendly ''reminder'' to mow my lawn. Other than that, I don't associate with any of the neighbors or attend meetings or anything.
I actually live in a very nice and reasonably priced HOA. They just maintain common grounds and never interfere. We are in AZ and our town is right next to the Air Force Base, so a few residents (including our son) are AF and so HOA’s here toe the line! 😁
Never figured out why people would buy into an HOA.
Joker there were years of profits at sales and the lawn got cut ...then thr lawn people thought it was theirs?
I'll be damned if I'm going to pay people to tell me what i Can and Cannot do on my own property.
The kids name is Miles and he climbs like Spider Man!
Damn! r/JustNoHOA needs to see this!
I WOULD LIVE IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK BEFORE I EVER THINK ABOUT LIVING ANYWHERE THERE IS AN HOA .
DAMN JERKS IS ALL
This is how my HOA acts also.
I hope they get a better place to live.
Guys go to the persons house that is driving around and taking pictures and have a conversation with the person very nicely!!
Is there any chance you can put us in contact with a reporter who cares enough about owner's rights to cover a multi-HOA mess in California? Property manager gone wild 🙈 🙊 🐵
We fined you for the sails you owe us money.
Yeah I won't pay that. I refuse to pay that.
Any updates?
Put them back up and ignore them, let it go to court, let them waste their money and the judge will award it to you
The downside to their Hall of Shame is that it will make a lot of people not wanting to live there, defeating the ultimate purpose of the HOA: keeping house value.
Get a doctor's order to put up the solar screen. Your turn HOA
We have the same thing here. It's called. Code enforcement. When town's can't seem to find other things to do.
Who ever buys into HOA ,, deserves what they get
Has there ever even been a SINGLE good story about HOA's?
That alone should speak for itself
His issue was anchoring onto the property. He could of made them into umbrella types
OUTLAW HOA'S. Too much power given to people who should never have any.
will never, ever live somewhere governed by an HOA
How did this turn out?
It's your house,your property.
WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW SOMEONE TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.