Great timing. I work at B&H and Qnap set up a display model in my department last week. We've been intrigued by it but were given very little information about it.
Got this thing a few weeks ago. Thanks for the heads-up. And yeah, it's a little pricey, but well, what's not these days? Will be gettings those heatsinks you mentioned.
He should also have mentioned that along with the device you get the FULL suite of QNAP software which is EXTENSIVE and high quality. In addition you can run VMs or Docker containers on this device if that's something you need. That being said I'm waiting for the next generation of this device. I'd love to see Gen 2 have 64 GB ram and maybe 6 drives and a core i9 option. As for cooling just drill some holes in the top cover and bolt or glue a silent USB fan to the top. I did that with my TVSh874tx and it dropped the temp by close to 20 degrees and the fan is SILENT!
I use that Black Magic Speed Test on my Mac and Windows. It's a pretty good tester. I also have a 10G network at home and get the same speeds copying files from my desktop to my HDD NAS (Synology 1821+ with eight 14TB drives). I love having a 10G network. But yeah, $1,449.00 for this is pretty expensive.
pretty rare to see TB on a NAS, surprised not to see the holy grail of speed tests and seeing r/w speeds of 5-disk NVME array? network speeds seem pretty normal/standard, but what was r/w over TB?
I got these "MTFDKBZ3T8TFR-1BC1ZABYY Data Center 7450 PRO" from compatibility list but can't seems to fit in the casing. I tried both ways with adapter and removing but the Micron 7450 SSD doesn't align. DO you know if theres anyway i install these.
UGREEN have just put out an SSD NAS as well. Love this form factor and performance but you're right, it's too expensive at the moment and ES.1 drives are basically impossible to get.
Should be vertically mounted SSDs between two heatsinks, 120 mm fan mounts front and back. Make it a bit wider if you need the hotswap, I/O on top and sides, open front to back for airflow. It would ruin the form but it probably wouldn't overheat. If you have enough airflow you could just mount fins to the SSDS. 5 hotswap SSDs with laptop cooling is not on my wish list.
Kind of have to disagree on one point, it's not that easy to DIY a NAS that takes E1.S drives right now and it's only a matter of time till used drives (with much higher endurance and capacity than consumer drives) flood the market. That said when this device was first launched I immediately though "It's a shame it's not bigger for better cooling", seems like I was correct but good to know M.2 at least work ok with a heat sink.
QNAP price is never cheap for using very old hardware. Waiting for Ugreen new NAS, hopefully this will bring down the price for the consumers with better hardware specs.
I think that anyone who really needs a device that can be filled up with 40TB of E1S storage, and connected directly to a MacBook Pro over thunderbolt, can probably afford the price of this unit. If you don't need the E1S support, there are many cheaper alternatives out there that can either provide 10G ethernet and/or thunderbolt. Some support m2 SSD's and all support sata SSD's. (Though cheap alternatives with both thunderbolt, 10G networking AND ZFS support is a bit harder to find)
what would be a better option that has 2 thunderbolt ports that 2 macbooks can connect to directly to edit from, rather than over ethernet? most NAS with thunderbolt that I've found only use the port for ingesting from. Keen to find all the options out there.
@@GearSeekers i made a janky cheapo storage pod with a sabrent card with pcie switch , and another 1 to 4 pcie x1 PCB which usually used by miner ( I put pcie x1 to m2 slot to connect the nvme ) So it was 4 on sabrent card which share 3.0x4 speed And another set of 4 slower qlc nvme sharing pcie 2.0x1 speed which just fit those 4 QLC SSD cache full "true write speed" which is 100MB/s when write (with 2x 2.5G network so it just enough ) If the prototype works then I can scale up that to a threadripper platform and a quicker network 😂
The tool is great and NAS SSDs based is the way, while quite expensive. But this one is really expensive haha. Given that and the fact that I live in Brazil, I probably would go with some ITX + PCI-e x16 NVME board with cooling support. Isn't portable as a book, I know, but reality is cruel.
Just like Asustor FS6712x is, notorious for overheating and killing NVMEs. I will never run a flash NAS at 100c for CPU, 70c for NVMEs like FS6712X ever again. Right now I have the bottom fan out with external fan blow cool air in directly and stay at 40c system, 47c cpu, and
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Is the price for me? No. Is the channel for me? HELL YEA!!!
Finally we skip right over all SSD NAS boxes and go straight to M.2 especially in the days of 2.5gig and 5gig internet from Google and AT&t fiber.
Great timing. I work at B&H and Qnap set up a display model in my department last week. We've been intrigued by it but were given very little information about it.
Glad this could help!
Got this thing a few weeks ago. Thanks for the heads-up. And yeah, it's a little pricey, but well, what's not these days? Will be gettings those heatsinks you mentioned.
He should also have mentioned that along with the device you get the FULL suite of QNAP software which is EXTENSIVE and high quality. In addition you can run VMs or Docker containers on this device if that's something you need.
That being said I'm waiting for the next generation of this device. I'd love to see Gen 2 have 64 GB ram and maybe 6 drives and a core i9 option.
As for cooling just drill some holes in the top cover and bolt or glue a silent USB fan to the top. I did that with my TVSh874tx and it dropped the temp by close to 20 degrees and the fan is SILENT!
i needed this video. TY
I use that Black Magic Speed Test on my Mac and Windows. It's a pretty good tester. I also have a 10G network at home and get the same speeds copying files from my desktop to my HDD NAS (Synology 1821+ with eight 14TB drives). I love having a 10G network. But yeah, $1,449.00 for this is pretty expensive.
Yeah its not cheap but the real test is I think we'll be taking it to Computex with us for editing.
Awesome video. Very cool product. You are 100% correct about it. Amazing, but too expensive. :/
pretty rare to see TB on a NAS, surprised not to see the holy grail of speed tests and seeing r/w speeds of 5-disk NVME array? network speeds seem pretty normal/standard, but what was r/w over TB?
Great Review 👍
A couple of misses on this, wish that the 10gbe port was a sfp+ port and a second 10gb or 25gb port for high availability replication options
I got these "MTFDKBZ3T8TFR-1BC1ZABYY Data Center 7450 PRO" from compatibility list but can't seems to fit in the casing. I tried both ways with adapter and removing but the Micron 7450 SSD doesn't align. DO you know if theres anyway i install these.
About to build a storage nas and I keep thinking ssd is the way to go - lower power, better reliability, shock tolerance if bumped, speeeeeed.
Thanks for the info and the cat chat.
And what is the height of SSD possible for installation?
UGREEN have just put out an SSD NAS as well. Love this form factor and performance but you're right, it's too expensive at the moment and ES.1 drives are basically impossible to get.
Should be vertically mounted SSDs between two heatsinks, 120 mm fan mounts front and back. Make it a bit wider if you need the hotswap, I/O on top and sides, open front to back for airflow. It would ruin the form but it probably wouldn't overheat. If you have enough airflow you could just mount fins to the SSDS. 5 hotswap SSDs with laptop cooling is not on my wish list.
Would my Samsung 990 Pro 4tb with heat sink fit in here??
Kind of have to disagree on one point, it's not that easy to DIY a NAS that takes E1.S drives right now and it's only a matter of time till used drives (with much higher endurance and capacity than consumer drives) flood the market. That said when this device was first launched I immediately though "It's a shame it's not bigger for better cooling", seems like I was correct but good to know M.2 at least work ok with a heat sink.
QNAP price is never cheap for using very old hardware. Waiting for Ugreen new NAS, hopefully this will bring down the price for the consumers with better hardware specs.
I think that anyone who really needs a device that can be filled up with 40TB of E1S storage, and connected directly to a MacBook Pro over thunderbolt, can probably afford the price of this unit.
If you don't need the E1S support, there are many cheaper alternatives out there that can either provide 10G ethernet and/or thunderbolt. Some support m2 SSD's and all support sata SSD's. (Though cheap alternatives with both thunderbolt, 10G networking AND ZFS support is a bit harder to find)
what would be a better option that has 2 thunderbolt ports that 2 macbooks can connect to directly to edit from, rather than over ethernet?
most NAS with thunderbolt that I've found only use the port for ingesting from.
Keen to find all the options out there.
lmao holding a lav microphone never gets old
I am still looking for anyone use 8TB nvme/e1s on it
Mine just dead today, have to send back to qnap for a few months for a replacement, qnap hardware is so advanced that it gets so unreliable…😂
The only problem : my wallet just say how about no 😂
I don't blame your wallet at all lol
@@GearSeekers i made a janky cheapo storage pod with a sabrent card with pcie switch , and another 1 to 4 pcie x1 PCB which usually used by miner ( I put pcie x1 to m2 slot to connect the nvme )
So it was 4 on sabrent card which share 3.0x4 speed
And another set of 4 slower qlc nvme sharing pcie 2.0x1 speed which just fit those 4 QLC SSD cache full "true write speed" which is 100MB/s when write (with 2x 2.5G network so it just enough )
If the prototype works then I can scale up that to a threadripper platform and a quicker network 😂
The tool is great and NAS SSDs based is the way, while quite expensive. But this one is really expensive haha.
Given that and the fact that I live in Brazil, I probably would go with some ITX + PCI-e x16 NVME board with cooling support. Isn't portable as a book, I know, but reality is cruel.
Just like Asustor FS6712x is, notorious for overheating and killing NVMEs. I will never run a flash NAS at 100c for CPU, 70c for NVMEs like FS6712X ever again. Right now I have the bottom fan out with external fan blow cool air in directly and stay at 40c system, 47c cpu, and
Holy smokes but the price! Way too expensive for what it is.
Dude, nice information. Why hold that tiny mic? C’mon…..
Because it makes you comment thats why ;)