Jonathan can you please make a video on what to do with small pocket pairs in tournaments near bubble, as well as when have a large stack should you really shove with them deep in a tournament. I find myself confused about when I should judt fold them and not take the risk of getting sucked out on vs when to defend with them/play aggressively later in play. I know you call/set mind in the beginning/pre-bubble just not sure when to just fold them pre-flop
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In the hand where hero is UTG+1 with JJ, and the board is Q 9 5 T, I totally agree with check-call flop, but what you do you think about check-raise the turn? You didn't mention it, but that would be my approach. My open-ended straight draw seems like a great semi-bluff opportunity. I expect to get him off of KQ, probably even AQ, and, of course, all his bluffs. Even if he calls, I could make a straight or the back door flush could get there and I can blast that.
I got dealt JJ 3 times in a row at the very end of a ring game and got into 3 pre flops all ins in each hand in which I lost all 3 against K4 S, K7 S and A 10 off
Why all in pre flop each time? Unless you Uber sure it’s a flip, still sucks to be all in for a flip. Or unless you were the big stack and smaller stacks shoved.
@@buckleup8962 why would you not want to get it in with JJ against people who put it in with hands like K4s, K7s and ATo???? Aginst such clowns I would love to be all in preflop with hands like 88 and AJ.
@@corey192 knowing the result and the hands yes, but you have to review the situation as you don’t know what they have because you wouldn’t know until cards are flipped.
The short term results means nothing , it’s a blessing when they beat you with K4 and K7 when you have JJ , if the fish don’t make it there would be no game. If you see like a business then business is good and those are good customers.
Hey Jonathan, thanks for the video. I always learn a lot. I feel like a lot of the resentment against jacks comes from the awareness of the strength of the hand. Losing just hurts extra bad. But hopefully thats gonna happen a lot less now anyways! On another note im color blind and it‘s a little hard to differentiate the tones of green and red you use in your charts. It would be great if you could consider maybe changing to a more yellow shade of green, or a more saturated red. Though the color scheme does look good :D
This is one of those things that newer players today have a problem with because they never played limit holdem. When I started playing, you generally started with limit and transitioned to no-limit. In the first scenario Q95, you need to understand that your opponent(s) are going to have a much wider calling range than betting range, so you gain more information by checking than betting in marginal situations. If you bet, and get called, where are you at? However, if you check and your opponent checks behind, you're likely ahead.
I started playing JJ like a small pair like 22-77, I'm much more wary of all the possible overpairs that come with flops and the 88, 99, and TT that make sets when undercards come.
Interesting, I was recently in a massive 600bb hand with QQ vs JJ vs KK but there was a straddle so I guess that actually only makes it 200bb. JJ raised from UTG to 5x the straddle and I just flat called with QQ. I thought I was slow playing but apparently I'm supposed to do that 60% of the time? I had no idea. Then KK jams for about 40 bb relative to the straddle. It gets to JJ and he thinks about it for a minute, I thought he was going to flat but then he goes all in for 200x of the straddle. I consider folding but I guess I had a live read because I really felt like I was ahead and ended up making the call. Board ran out Qs 8s 2s 5c 2d. Just an absolute dream runout in the biggest hand of my life. Really interesting to learn that the QQ flat call preflop is standard though. I thought I was playing like a nit.
Hey Jon, love the videos. On that JJ hand with 964 flop, how’re you playing that hand if the river was a spade. Are you worried at all about the runner runner flush and villain bets out?
Funny because I played out some of those hands very different in my head. Do you call on the river of that second scenario if the bet is closer to a pot?
Fold AA comment around 31:00 - absolutely. Saw player fold aces, another player flopped 4 of a kind. Would have lost his butt. This was season 1 of The Big Game from Poker Stars.
Harrahs new Orleans last week I seen a guy go all in back to back hands w a draw and doubled up on both, now I get jacks and make it 25 on the button , mp calls and the crazy guy UDG calls.. flop comes 10c 4c 7d both guys check to me and I make it 1/3 for 25, mp folds and crazy guy shoves for 420 effective , im thinking A10 , maybe clubs at best , why would you do this with a set and even two pair im not gonna just jam... so I say all of this out loud and the guys looking like damn I shouldn't have did that, after thinking for about 30 seconds I call and he has K10 OFF and I hold up for a nice 865+ pot
On the JJ vs KTh hand... What hands does the Villain put the Hero on that barrels Large/Pot/Overpot bets? Certainly no value hands that KTh beats. Which bluffs that the Hero has is he catching? AQ?...Villian blocks some of the QT and AT.
How many 95% pre river can you loose i lost 3 yesterday how do i handle it mentally that should be more emphasis on random distribution can be brutal... when you loose against 47 with AA wher turn is 4 and river is 7 .. you can throw all education out the window im on supertilt.......
@@PokerCoachingthanks for reply great content btw i know, but what im getting at is "random" is visioned as more even distribution of badluck and luck... anyway lm the only one that thinks Phil helmut tilting is pretty normal.... except i wouldnt say hunny he called with 10 4......🤣
Crush Live Poker, and Nathan Black rain poker, 2 good, popular poker teachers like J Little, say that in Micro to Low to Small stakes, against either Semi NIT fish, and against semi tight to semi moderate , semi aggressive fish, rec players, regs, etc, that if you raise a hand whether JJ or a whether a Ax, etc, hand that either does not hit flop, or is a marginal made hand situation on a Q95 board like in J Littles example, that should CBet about 75% to 85% of time in that situation, and that when, if Cbet in that situation, that should CBet about 2/5, 1/2, 3/5 the pot. That seems to me to seem to go against what J Little is saying because it seems to me that J Little is saying to not CBet JJ on a Q95 board in small stakes cash games, tournaments, against the typical, usual small stakes rec, fish player, etc, which seems to disagree with most of the Crush Live Poker, Nathan Black Rain poker, J Little, etc, types. I play micro to low to small stakes tournaments against recs, semi regs, fish, etc, and I usually Cbet JJ about 59% to 63% of the time on Q95 type boards, against micro to low stakes recs, semi regs, fish, etc, and most of the time, me doing that seems to work out just fine most of the time, and seems to agree with Crush Live Poker's Bart Hanson, and Nathan Black Rain poker, Doyles Super system, most of the experts, etc. Can somebody or J Little please explain why disagree with most of the other legit experts, and why counsel not to Cbet JJ on a seemingly good Q95 board? Q95 seems like a good board to Cbet about 59% to 63% of time, vs semi recs, semi regs, fish, etc, in micro to low stakes games, because that Q95 flop hits your range as the preflop raiser, more then it hits opponents preflop range, and because your opponent likely misses that Q95 flop about 2,3 out of 3,4 times, and that because of that your opponent will probably fold to your JJ Cbet on a Q95 board, and that when you Cbet that Q95 board, about 59% to 63% of time, that you only need your CBet to work about 2 out of 5 times in order to be able to profitably Cbet on that Q95 board, about 59% to 63% of the time over the long term. So because of these things, I don't get why you seem to me to seem to say not to Cbet JJ, and why you seem to disagree with the logic, thought process I described, and why you seem to disagree with most of the legit experts out there on about this whether to Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board.
The other thing is if I almost never ever Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board, and check most of time, aren't I playing with my hand face up as a semi tight to semi moderate to semi aggressive player, to where if I Cbet, they then know to fold to me? Don't I have to Cbet about 67% of my range, about 59% to 63% of time, as a semi tight to semi moderate, semi aggressive player, so that about 1/3 of players will fold, 1/3 will call, 1/3 will flip a coin on what to do, against me. Because of that don't I have to Cbet JJ, vs a Q95 type board SOME of the time? Now obviously there are going to be times when it's wrong to Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board, for some of the reasons J Little touched on, but as long as Cbet 67% of your range vs Q95 about 59% to 63% of time, then it seems right to Cbet JJ, vs Q95, sometimes. Also GTO says that you only need your CBet to work about 2/5 of the time, if your going to Cbet about 67% of your range about 59% to 63% of time.
First of all I would raise JJ to about 7 normally just over 2x. Then mix some checks and c bets. But your c bet can be super small like 3-4 dollars max, then if you get raised 4x on the flop it's an auto fold, with sets auto call. This type of play allows you to check turns and check call turn, and maybe a check river about 35% ish, depending on the player, higher if you think they are loading up. Once you check raise the river the pot is so infalted it induces more calls or even a reshove. Let's say they bet 45 river you raise to 110, if they have 150-200 left they might just get it in and it's an easy call. I don't really take Johnathon's advice that much, I just think there are better ways to play poker. And if you are playing nitty they will almost never call these large sizes, so in that sense this is just fantasyland advice, and it never goes down like this against good players, only fish play garbage like the above examples
@@kioplqwerty Altho J Littles advice does not always apply to most situations, and might sometimes be less optimal in certain situations, overall J Littles advice is pretty good, and he is a professional winning player, and those he teaches, usually do well. JJ should raise to 3.5, 4, 4.5 X preflop. While one does not want to, should not bomb away with large preflop raises, you do need to raise enough to make sure that there is only 1,2,3 other players in the hand, and that you don't get 4,5,6,7 others in hand. 2 X preflop raise just makes it so that you get 4,5,6,7 in hand with you. Especially if your in lower stakes. You need to raise 3.5, 4, 4.5 X to try to only get 1,2,3 callers, instead of 4,5,6 callers. At higher stakes you can go with 2.5 X, 3 x, 3.5 x preflop. This also slightly increases size of pot, so that can still win more, while still being able to limit losses. I agree that mixed Cbetting, checking is best. The Cbet size probably should not be any lower then about 39% of pot. If your CBet is too small, you just invite being reraised to often. 39% of pot Cbet is small enough to still semi keep pot under control, while still being big enough to discourage reraising your cbet J Littles advice to bet bigger, when do bet, instead of betting very small, too small, and not getting full value on sets, 2 pair, overpair, situations where your ahead, and not marginal made hands, is right on. To do that, you have to MIX UP, VARY your bet sizing, sometimes betting more, sometimes betting smaller, sometimes getting full value, sometimes not getting full value, AND you also need to do that with about 53% to 59% of range, situations. If you do that then sometimes they will call, and sometimes they will fold, and sometimes they will guess. Over the long term that allows you to extract as full value by betting bigger with JJ when you do bet JJ, when you do have a favorable postflop situation with JJ. The lower the stakes are the more that can do this with less counter balancing your range for JJ. The higher the stakes, and the more good players, the more you have to balance your range for your JJ full value betting When J Little said to bet JJ bigger in favorable situations POSTFLOP, like sets, etc, his advice assumes that your not playing your JJ face up POSTFLOP, and that your balancing out your betting for full value range, postflop, for betting JJ bigger postflop in favorable situations. While it's ok, and even right to sometimes disagree with J Little, about some things, overall J Littles advice is mostly profitable in most situations overall, and over the long term overall. It's NOT all just Fantasyland stuff. If you think that, or still think that, then maybe you should compare, post your actual long term stats, results, to J Littles long term results, and the long term results of those that J Little teaches, and or put your money where your mouth is.
The 3.5 X, 4 x, 4.5 x preflop raise thing is only for FLOP VULNERABLE hands like 99, TT, JJ, AK, AQ suited. FLOP VULNERABLE SEMI PREMIUM GREAT, GOOD HANDS do NOT want 4,5,6,7 others in the hand, and only want 1,2 others in hand, so less chance to get out flopped, and easier to Cbet if either miss flop or in a marginal made hand situation. 6,7,8,9 x is too big, and 2, 2.5, 3 x is too small, and 3.5 x, 4 x, 4.5 x, is just about right. 2.5, 3, 3.5 x at high stakes, 4.5, 5 x at lower, lowest stakes. At the very beginning of a tournament, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 x. Late tourny, money bubble, 2.5, 3, 3.5 x. Basically find out how big to raise JJ to only get 1,2 callers, instead of 4,5,6,7 callers, without BOMB raising(6,7,8,9,10 x BB + ), JJ, etc, preflop.
just ran this in GTOWizard because I got curious. Interestingly, JJ wants to check back without a spade 100% of the time and with a spade 75% of the time. I think the idea is that your betting range should be somewhat polar towards either thick value or strong draws so a lot of the middling hands should check back. Could be analyzing this wrong but that's just me.
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During the poker boom 12-15 years ago, JJ and AK suicide bombers were the geese that laid the many golden eggs that made the Vegas regs rich.
Jonathan can you please make a video on what to do with small pocket pairs in tournaments near bubble, as well as when have a large stack should you really shove with them deep in a tournament. I find myself confused about when I should judt fold them and not take the risk of getting sucked out on vs when to defend with them/play aggressively later in play. I know you call/set mind in the beginning/pre-bubble just not sure when to just fold them pre-flop
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In the hand where hero is UTG+1 with JJ, and the board is Q 9 5 T, I totally agree with check-call flop, but what you do you think about check-raise the turn? You didn't mention it, but that would be my approach. My open-ended straight draw seems like a great semi-bluff opportunity. I expect to get him off of KQ, probably even AQ, and, of course, all his bluffs.
Even if he calls, I could make a straight or the back door flush could get there and I can blast that.
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I got dealt JJ 3 times in a row at the very end of a ring game and got into 3 pre flops all ins in each hand in which I lost all 3 against K4 S, K7 S and A 10 off
Why all in pre flop each time? Unless you Uber sure it’s a flip, still sucks to be all in for a flip.
Or unless you were the big stack and smaller stacks shoved.
@@buckleup8962 why would you not want to get it in with JJ against people who put it in with hands like K4s, K7s and ATo???? Aginst such clowns I would love to be all in preflop with hands like 88 and AJ.
@@corey192 knowing the result and the hands yes, but you have to review the situation as you don’t know what they have because you wouldn’t know until cards are flipped.
@@buckleup8962 OP probably knew his customers thats why he expanded his range to JJ . VS normalish Tags and nits its suicidal to get it in with JJ
The short term results means nothing , it’s a blessing when they beat you with K4 and K7 when you have JJ , if the fish don’t make it there would be no game. If you see like a business then business is good and those are good customers.
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Hey Jonathan, thanks for the video. I always learn a lot.
I feel like a lot of the resentment against jacks comes from the awareness of the strength of the hand. Losing just hurts extra bad. But hopefully thats gonna happen a lot less now anyways!
On another note im color blind and it‘s a little hard to differentiate the tones of green and red you use in your charts. It would be great if you could consider maybe changing to a more yellow shade of green, or a more saturated red. Though the color scheme does look good :D
This is one of those things that newer players today have a problem with because they never played limit holdem. When I started playing, you generally started with limit and transitioned to no-limit. In the first scenario Q95, you need to understand that your opponent(s) are going to have a much wider calling range than betting range, so you gain more information by checking than betting in marginal situations. If you bet, and get called, where are you at? However, if you check and your opponent checks behind, you're likely ahead.
I started playing JJ like a small pair like 22-77, I'm much more wary of all the possible overpairs that come with flops and the 88, 99, and TT that make sets when undercards come.
Interesting, I was recently in a massive 600bb hand with QQ vs JJ vs KK but there was a straddle so I guess that actually only makes it 200bb. JJ raised from UTG to 5x the straddle and I just flat called with QQ. I thought I was slow playing but apparently I'm supposed to do that 60% of the time? I had no idea. Then KK jams for about 40 bb relative to the straddle. It gets to JJ and he thinks about it for a minute, I thought he was going to flat but then he goes all in for 200x of the straddle. I consider folding but I guess I had a live read because I really felt like I was ahead and ended up making the call. Board ran out Qs 8s 2s 5c 2d. Just an absolute dream runout in the biggest hand of my life. Really interesting to learn that the QQ flat call preflop is standard though. I thought I was playing like a nit.
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Hey Jon, love the videos. On that JJ hand with 964 flop, how’re you playing that hand if the river was a spade. Are you worried at all about the runner runner flush and villain bets out?
Funny because I played out some of those hands very different in my head. Do you call on the river of that second scenario if the bet is closer to a pot?
Fold AA comment around 31:00 - absolutely. Saw player fold aces, another player flopped 4 of a kind. Would have lost his butt. This was season 1 of The Big Game from Poker Stars.
On the second hand, I raise for value sometimes against shortstacks on my little .10 .25 tables. If they have it, they let you know 😅
Poker at the Lodge had a JJ v QQ all in , in today's video. And an extra bonus JJ V Doug Polk. "Biggest win in lodge history video " .
Harrahs new Orleans last week I seen a guy go all in back to back hands w a draw and doubled up on both, now I get jacks and make it 25 on the button , mp calls and the crazy guy UDG calls.. flop comes 10c 4c 7d both guys check to me and I make it 1/3 for 25, mp folds and crazy guy shoves for 420 effective , im thinking A10 , maybe clubs at best , why would you do this with a set and even two pair im not gonna just jam... so I say all of this out loud and the guys looking like damn I shouldn't have did that, after thinking for about 30 seconds I call and he has K10 OFF and I hold up for a nice 865+ pot
On the JJ vs KTh hand... What hands does the Villain put the Hero on that barrels Large/Pot/Overpot bets? Certainly no value hands that KTh beats. Which bluffs that the Hero has is he catching? AQ?...Villian blocks some of the QT and AT.
QT, A4s, A3s, A2s, T9s, Q9s, ... there are a lot of hands that could bluff this way.
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How many 95% pre river can you loose i lost 3 yesterday how do i handle it mentally that should be more emphasis on random distribution can be brutal... when you loose against 47 with AA wher turn is 4 and river is 7 .. you can throw all education out the window im on supertilt.......
"Random" means random.
@@PokerCoachingthanks for reply great content btw i know, but what im getting at is "random" is visioned as more even distribution of badluck and luck... anyway lm the only one that thinks Phil helmut tilting is pretty normal.... except i wouldnt say hunny he called with 10 4......🤣
His son is too wholesome it's killing me
They key with playing JJ is flopping a set.
I have to work, but you saying
Not one
Not two
Not THREE!!!!
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Actually but three
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out of position and you have the nut underpair to the flop, you check, got kings, see an ace? check. Got queens see a king, check
There is only mistakes to be made with the Jiggidies
Crush Live Poker, and Nathan Black rain poker, 2 good, popular poker teachers like J Little, say that in Micro to Low to Small stakes, against either Semi NIT fish, and against semi tight to semi moderate , semi aggressive fish, rec players, regs, etc, that if you raise a hand whether JJ or a whether a Ax, etc, hand that either does not hit flop, or is a marginal made hand situation on a Q95 board like in J Littles example, that should CBet about 75% to 85% of time in that situation, and that when, if Cbet in that situation, that should CBet about 2/5, 1/2, 3/5 the pot.
That seems to me to seem to go against what J Little is saying because it seems to me that J Little is saying to not CBet JJ on a Q95 board in small stakes cash games, tournaments, against the typical, usual small stakes rec, fish player, etc, which seems to disagree with most of the Crush Live Poker, Nathan Black Rain poker, J Little, etc, types.
I play micro to low to small stakes tournaments against recs, semi regs, fish, etc, and I usually Cbet JJ about 59% to 63% of the time on Q95 type boards, against micro to low stakes recs, semi regs, fish, etc, and most of the time, me doing that seems to work out just fine most of the time, and seems to agree with Crush Live Poker's Bart Hanson, and Nathan Black Rain poker, Doyles Super system, most of the experts, etc.
Can somebody or J Little please explain why disagree with most of the other legit experts, and why counsel not to Cbet JJ on a seemingly good Q95 board?
Q95 seems like a good board to Cbet about 59% to 63% of time, vs semi recs, semi regs, fish, etc, in micro to low stakes games, because that Q95 flop hits your range as the preflop raiser, more then it hits opponents preflop range, and because your opponent likely misses that Q95 flop about 2,3 out of 3,4 times, and that because of that your opponent will probably fold to your JJ Cbet on a Q95 board, and that when you Cbet that Q95 board, about 59% to 63% of time, that you only need your CBet to work about 2 out of 5 times in order to be able to profitably Cbet on that Q95 board, about 59% to 63% of the time over the long term.
So because of these things, I don't get why you seem to me to seem to say not to Cbet JJ, and why you seem to disagree with the logic, thought process I described, and why you seem to disagree with most of the legit experts out there on about this whether to Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board.
The other thing is if I almost never ever Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board, and check most of time, aren't I playing with my hand face up as a semi tight to semi moderate to semi aggressive player, to where if I Cbet, they then know to fold to me?
Don't I have to Cbet about 67% of my range, about 59% to 63% of time, as a semi tight to semi moderate, semi aggressive player, so that about 1/3 of players will fold, 1/3 will call, 1/3 will flip a coin on what to do, against me.
Because of that don't I have to Cbet JJ, vs a Q95 type board SOME of the time?
Now obviously there are going to be times when it's wrong to Cbet JJ on a Q95 type board, for some of the reasons J Little touched on, but as long as Cbet 67% of your range vs Q95 about 59% to 63% of time, then it seems right to Cbet JJ, vs Q95, sometimes.
Also GTO says that you only need your CBet to work about 2/5 of the time, if your going to Cbet about 67% of your range about 59% to 63% of time.
First of all I would raise JJ to about 7 normally just over 2x. Then mix some checks and c bets. But your c bet can be super small like 3-4 dollars max, then if you get raised 4x on the flop it's an auto fold, with sets auto call. This type of play allows you to check turns and check call turn, and maybe a check river about 35% ish, depending on the player, higher if you think they are loading up. Once you check raise the river the pot is so infalted it induces more calls or even a reshove. Let's say they bet 45 river you raise to 110, if they have 150-200 left they might just get it in and it's an easy call. I don't really take Johnathon's advice that much, I just think there are better ways to play poker. And if you are playing nitty they will almost never call these large sizes, so in that sense this is just fantasyland advice, and it never goes down like this against good players, only fish play garbage like the above examples
@@kioplqwerty Altho J Littles advice does not always apply to most situations, and might sometimes be less optimal in certain situations, overall J Littles advice is pretty good, and he is a professional winning player, and those he teaches, usually do well.
JJ should raise to 3.5, 4, 4.5 X preflop. While one does not want to, should not bomb away with large preflop raises, you do need to raise enough to make sure that there is only 1,2,3 other players in the hand, and that you don't get 4,5,6,7 others in hand.
2 X preflop raise just makes it so that you get 4,5,6,7 in hand with you. Especially if your in lower stakes. You need to raise 3.5, 4, 4.5 X to try to only get 1,2,3 callers, instead of 4,5,6 callers. At higher stakes you can go with 2.5 X, 3 x, 3.5 x preflop.
This also slightly increases size of pot, so that can still win more, while still being able to limit losses.
I agree that mixed Cbetting, checking is best. The Cbet size probably should not be any lower then about 39% of pot.
If your CBet is too small, you just invite being reraised to often. 39% of pot Cbet is small enough to still semi keep pot under control, while still being big enough to discourage reraising your cbet
J Littles advice to bet bigger, when do bet, instead of betting very small, too small, and not getting full value on sets, 2 pair, overpair, situations where your ahead, and not marginal made hands, is right on.
To do that, you have to MIX UP, VARY your bet sizing, sometimes betting more, sometimes betting smaller, sometimes getting full value, sometimes not getting full value, AND you also need to do that with about 53% to 59% of range, situations.
If you do that then sometimes they will call, and sometimes they will fold, and sometimes they will guess.
Over the long term that allows you to extract as full value by betting bigger with JJ when you do bet JJ, when you do have a favorable postflop situation with JJ.
The lower the stakes are the more that can do this with less counter balancing your range for JJ.
The higher the stakes, and the more good players, the more you have to balance your range for your JJ full value betting
When J Little said to bet JJ bigger in favorable situations POSTFLOP, like sets, etc, his advice assumes that your not playing your JJ face up POSTFLOP, and that your balancing out your betting for full value range, postflop, for betting JJ bigger postflop in favorable situations.
While it's ok, and even right to sometimes disagree with J Little, about some things, overall J Littles advice is mostly profitable in most situations overall, and over the long term overall.
It's NOT all just Fantasyland stuff.
If you think that, or still think that, then maybe you should compare, post your actual long term stats, results, to J Littles long term results, and the long term results of those that J Little teaches, and or put your money where your mouth is.
The 3.5 X, 4 x, 4.5 x preflop raise thing is only for FLOP VULNERABLE hands like 99, TT, JJ, AK, AQ suited. FLOP VULNERABLE SEMI PREMIUM GREAT, GOOD HANDS do NOT want 4,5,6,7 others in the hand, and only want 1,2 others in hand, so less chance to get out flopped, and easier to Cbet if either miss flop or in a marginal made hand situation.
6,7,8,9 x is too big, and 2, 2.5, 3 x is too small, and 3.5 x, 4 x, 4.5 x, is just about right. 2.5, 3, 3.5 x at high stakes, 4.5, 5 x at lower, lowest stakes.
At the very beginning of a tournament, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5 x. Late tourny, money bubble, 2.5, 3, 3.5 x.
Basically find out how big to raise JJ to only get 1,2 callers, instead of 4,5,6,7 callers, without BOMB raising(6,7,8,9,10 x BB + ), JJ, etc, preflop.
just ran this in GTOWizard because I got curious. Interestingly, JJ wants to check back without a spade 100% of the time and with a spade 75% of the time. I think the idea is that your betting range should be somewhat polar towards either thick value or strong draws so a lot of the middling hands should check back. Could be analyzing this wrong but that's just me.