I don't usually comment on youtube, but after watching this and your lotus video, I'm definitely in awe of your driving. It does really set you apart from many other channels and is something you should play upon to differentiate yourself. Subscribed!
Thanks bud - i really appreciate that! Thats what I try to do; set out my channel from others with "proper" driving and good filming. There's only a handful of other channels in my opinion that do this...
Drove both, and the BMW doesn’t come close there where it matters: handling and steering. The Alfa is so precise and crisp, and still so communicative, the BMW doesn’t come close. Eventhough the BMW felt stiffer in the suspension, it was much less precise and stabile. In fact, there were better M3-versions in the past than the current one...
There's only one error you made with this video. You mistakenly added a question mark in the title after ”better than an M3".. 🤣 Not even really that close, in my opinion.. M3s are simply too ubiquitously common, unreliable, and now not even the best anymore.. What a car the Giulia is, and a great video, too..
@@davissilvestrs1996 Not according to all the latest data from all across Europe. No denying the facts. Mates M4 (younger than my Giulia) been back to dealership 3 times. Latest is due to electrical terminals corroding and electrical failures throughout vehicle due to water ingress. Giulia not a peep in same time. Plus, he's gutted every time he drives the Alfa, because he admits it's drives better! He's not your typical BMW fanboy, though, big enough to call it like it is: he spent more money on a less reliable, inferior drivers car. Just plain facts. The saddest thing I've seen real BMW fanboys cling on to is that they might have superior "interior plastics!" A German magazine also brought this up, and were torn apart for it! If that's all they have left, might as well go for a Merc or Audi (better interior quality than BMW).. Or even just go for a Toyota Corolla, because they have high quality plastics too!
Gonna give you some props.....your videos are really good...much better than other car channels. I think it's your delivery of the content when you speak.....
You are the German (Well, I suppose ahah) version of our Italian Davide Cironi. And let me tell you that you are such a skilled driver. I would like to have more friends like you ahaha
I've driven and owned a few M3s... F80's engine is just not that great... sounds even worse! After testing the Alfa QV, it's heads and shoulders better than the M3, it puts that "ultimate driving" machine tag to shame... based on that experience... would I buy one? that's a different story... reliability and depreciation after just a little over a year has been pretty bad... not sure if I want to pull the trigger because of that... but that car is amazingly good!
Really enjoyed the video, very cinematic. I know having the most expensive equipment doesn't always make someone produce a quality video but what camera + lens did you use for producing the in-car shots? Thanks!
Theoretically it is a mid size car, but im talking relative - as in generally as a car. Generally as a car it is big! And it is heavy weighing almost 1.7 tons! May not sound like too much or seem to big as cars constantly are getting bigger - but the Giulia (to me) is a big and heavy car!
Great video. One of the best and most interesting car impression videos that I have seen lately. The reason the Giulia QV sounds so unique is because it is actually two 3-cylinder motors joined at the crank to create the V6. 3-cylinder motors have a unique (and angry!) sound and that really works in the Giulia QV's favor I think.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It is very closely related to the Ferrari V8 and it has a firing order like two 3-cylinder motors which gives it its unique sound.
Keep it. Looks like a Pontiac. And reliability is an issue with Alfas. A shame because I love the 8c, 4c, and Stradale....Alfa makes some of the most beautiful cars in the world. But not this one. I’ll stick with my 911.
ahahah, you can get a Ferrari powered carbon sedan with an Italian soul and you are complaining about reliability? It's definitely more reliable than the competition. Also who the fuck compares an 911 to a QV? Maybe someone who doesn't own an 911?
It's not the same block as the Ferrari engines you mention. The Alfa is a V6 first of all. Secondly, it's not developed by Ferrari, Alfa Romeo on the other hand has accuired people from Ferrari that was part of Alfa Romeo skunk works that developed this car.
Supposedly the engine is a deviation from the V8 found in the California T. Obviously it isn't the same exact block. However it is derived from a Ferrari engined and developed partly by Ferrari engineers.
He wants to get things right it's a Ferrari v8 engine with 2 cylinders lopped off & this car is the dogs bo£&@x It's the fastest car in its class round the & ring he looks about 10yrs old has he got a licence????
As an owner, I love the car, it's unique styling, the steering input, the sound of that twin turbo, but AR really needs to work on the reliability of the Ferrari derived V6.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 numerous ETCS & MIL lights due to engine misfires. Engine was replaced twice, the third engine was on order; however, I just completed a buyback.
Tony Mireles many thanks Tony, hope it all works out for you. I’ve just bought a Giulia QF that arrives in 2 weeks - just hoping the engine in mine behaves itself
How dare you insinuate that the Honda is even in the same room! You guys always want to make all cars equal except in the numbers.... three words Ped Di Gree! Emitch333.wixsite.com/agatolwey
I love both cars and people shouldnt recognize that even the fact of the Type-R doesnt have the class and style and refinement of the Giulia which is my first choice. the FK8 is a track weapon. Its not an Atom or X-Bow but for a road car is a wonderful track car.
Hahahaha, this is great - would you rather I sit much farther away from the wheel resulting in me having much less control of the vehicle, and then giving my opinion? If you would have done any sort of driver training you would know what im talking about ;)
HeelandToe.Blog I have done driver training, which is why I made my initial comment. Instead of being a prick ready to snap back with a retort, you should ask yourself why I said what I said. You are too close to the wheel to have full, unimpeded control over the car. There are times where you could hit your elbow against your sides because your arms aren’t extended far enough. Also, the wheel is tilted too far up for your driving position. In the even of a crash, the airbag would cause more injuries to you rather than provide safety. You should be positioned to where, if you fully extend your arms, your wrists would rest on top of the wheel. That gives enough space to: 1. Have full range of motion with your arms 2. Prevent your joints from locking in the event of a crash 3. Give the airbag sufficient time to fully deploy 4. Prevent the airbag cover from causing more injuries to you And because of your condescending, know-it-all attitude, you just lost a subscriber
Firstly i'll apologize for being snappy - didn't mean to come across like that. Your comment genuinely just made me smile and wasn't trying to snap back/be too serious. I'll agree on the wheel being too far up, since driving that car i've gotten used to putting the wheel lower. Otherwise, i feel perfectly comfortable with driving the car in the position i do. And just a note, your comment on my seating position being "hilarious" and it apparently disregarding my opinion (important word here, opinion!) - makes any expected response a just as negative as to the initial comment you gave. Maybe something to think about. Aye, have a good one.
Chris Harris: "Is it (Alfa Romeo Giulia) as good as an M3, objectively, No I don't think it is". (Chris Harris Drives Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio). Enough said...
I'm pretty sure Harris drove in an pre/very early production model. Considering that this is the first foray back into super saloon territory for Alfa in 20 years, I'd give them a little leeway in getting bedded in. The progress in the first year or so since first releasing the Giulia for those first reviews is about 7 seconds quicker at the Nurburgring (fastest 4 door saloon in the world) and a quantum leap in reliability/satisfaction measures after ironing out initial bugs (now above BMW and Mercedes by metrics). Almost all testers after Harris have went for the Giulia.. Probably no coincidence.. The Giulia you will buy right now, today, is almost certainly better than an M3... Not sure the brand new 3 series platform is going to change that fact.. We shall see!
Not sure what you're basing your guess that Chris drove a preproduction model that was somehow not up to snuff? To that point, I don't think he was even comparing it with the BMW CP. From some of the videos I've seen, people who have had a chance to review it like it, but often do point out glitches in just the one day of driving. Consumer Reports rated Alfa #4 of the 10 worst car brands (MAR. '18) BMW's not on that list. I'm not hating on Giulia, I actually like much about them. Speaking for myself, I was in position back in May and considered C63S, Giulia & M3 CP. All the cars at this level are amazing, and I could go back & forth over performance, styling, reputation and reviews. For my money I went with BMW CP.
He drove a car with the transmission and Q4/Q2 setup not finalised for market (as you can see on the video) Essentially all early videos on the Giulia mentioned the transmission setup still being in limbo at that time. As mentioned, final ZF 8 speed rear wheel drive setups you will buy today almost universally have come out beating C63s and M3s in reviews and on track. Consumer Reports? US organisation? That wouldn't surprise me, as Alfa seem to be parachuting thier assault on the US market from a standing start by initially utilising the existing woeful Chrysler/Fiat dealerships. Again, as previously mentioned, apples to apples (European networks) the Giulia is now coming out ahead of the M3s, C63s in satisfaction/reliability metrics. As well as having them beat in almost every review and, of course, on the track.
Check out (BMW M3 vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia QV - Fastestlaps.com). Unless perhaps there is some conspiracy here or these were Alfas not ready for prime-time? How about what most every review is saying about the awkward brake feel and reaction? Also may want to check out (Car and Driver: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifolio. Longterm road test update), "Hello Alfa dealer, it's us again". It is a beautiful car and posts some great numbers, just sayin' I chose to stay away because of too many questions regarding reliability. If you feel confident that it won't be in the shop after spending around 80K plus, be my guest.
@@carpediem5952 Verbatim quote from fastestlaps.com BMW M3 vs Alfa QV (the place you quoted to look): "Summary Verdict: Giulia QV is fastest by a small margin". Whoops! What is being missed in all of this is that Alfa has parachuted back into the Super Saloon segment from a standing start and is competing (usually winning) by most metrics against M division and AMG with their undoubted advantage of decades of incremental experience. One, that is astonishing. Two, it points to the inevitably that the Giulia is only going to improve on an already winning formula with the benefit of similar incremental tweaking. Case in point: the brake by wire system that you (somewhat exaggeratingly) pointed out felt less than perfect on earlier reviewers. Software updateable! Been done! I don't need to "be your guest" regarding trying/buying the Giulia. I'm over a year into ownership. Not one single foible on two cars (one non QV). Perhaps you may have seen another comment I made on this video regarding my mates (newer!) M4? Been back to BMW THREE times already, including water ingress causing terminal corrosion and loss of all electrical systems. There is a man who spent more money on his M4, yet now freely admits he prefers the Giulia when driving it! That's not one of the many RUclips/motoring press reviewers that chose the Giulia, that's someone choosing it over his own, recently purchased car! So I know a thing or two about envious and regretful BMW drivers, as there is a running joke going on daily between us in that regard! All mostly moot anyway, as all new cars have warranties, incase anyone had forgotten! (Who are these people that are buying new M3s, C63s and Quadrifoglio's that are then keeping them past their warranty expiration?) I quite often hear the lazy, unsubstantiated "Alfa reliability" meme brought up as if it were a) still true and, b) even relevant in this regard. Part of the magic of the Giulia, is that it is also supremely comfortable when required. Almost unbelievably so. I'm talking on a par with something like a Citroën C6, which I have previously owned. Ferraris "Bumpy Road Mode" technology brought to bear. It's quite unbelievable to the point where it becomes a virtue on a par with the insane engine and incredible steering. That very fact makes a mockery of Competition Packs, Jaguar Project 8s, etc, etc.. Desperately hacking out the parts of what makes a Super Saloon what it is: a proper, fast, useable saloon car, not a fast Flintstones car. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face springs to mind. More money for less car. No thanks. I'll hire an Ariel Atom or Caterham for the once every month or so I would want that particular experience. I'm looking forward to seeing what BMW does with their upcoming new generation M3. This segment is certainly more exciting than it has been for a while, that's for sure.
@@edwardabrahams2353 Nobody will regret ,we just see different quallities in these cars. I like alfa gulia too, but respect M3 more. You're the opposite. Some other will buy C63 or Lexus , or GtR. I said I personally prefer M3 competition pack because I find it faster on track , more beautiful, more roomier and better build inside. Engine is a masterpiece too, with a little touches it becomes a real beast over 700 hp with stock internals and returns decent fuel economy.
Not impressed! The car, YES! You, NOT so much! Before you review a car, you should know more about it rather than guessing or just making things up as you go. The "A" of the DNA/Race does NOT mean All Weather! Suggestions: Learn how to drive before you hurt yourself or others. DON'T buy an Alfa. You seem to be more of a German car Fanboy.
Bloody hell thats some negativity. So i was wrong with the terminology of one thing? So - mistakes happen. Me saying all weather could also have been more of a description what the mode is for (which is correct), than using the absolute correct terminology. Why do I need to learn how to drive/what gives you the impression I cant drive? Why NOT buy an Alfa? What's wrong with being a fan of german cars? Bring your bloody hatred somewhere else on the internet.
Hey Steve, I hope you're okay buddy, you seem very frustrated! Robert is one of the most skllillful and talented drivers on the planet, like myself he choses to make car videos in his spare time, our main reason for doing this is to share our experiences with others who a) enjoy it and/or b) aren't fortunate enough to get their hands on such nice cars. We do occasionally get some facts and statistics wrong, this is because you're not watching a paid advertising campaign by Alfa. I suggest in the future you tune into another channel (just like you would on a tv) and watch content that does make you happy! Although reading your comment back again, it does seem you have other more pressing issues only a specialist doctor could help with. Either way good luck finding happiness. Kind Regards, Joe x
Jeez. You're not biased much. BMW owner. I have one. It's been perfect. This was the FIRST model in 20 years to compete in the sport sedan segment, and it's better than the competition. Wait until they improve it.
@@danadm I had written something else, but have since deleted it. Realized it sounded combative. Just gets frustrating when overall in Europe they have a higher reliability rating than BMW, but everyone keeps perpetuating how much they break down. They're as good or better numbers- wise than competing brands. Check it out.
My E39 is still running great at 260k miles, and my E46 at 275k miles. There's a reason why they call these engines bullet proof. I think you're mistaking maintenance cost with reliability.
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I don't usually comment on youtube, but after watching this and your lotus video, I'm definitely in awe of your driving.
It does really set you apart from many other channels and is something you should play upon to differentiate yourself. Subscribed!
Thanks bud - i really appreciate that! Thats what I try to do; set out my channel from others with "proper" driving and good filming. There's only a handful of other channels in my opinion that do this...
@@heelandtoe_ Spot on
Me to
Drove both, and the BMW doesn’t come close there where it matters: handling and steering. The Alfa is so precise and crisp, and still so communicative, the BMW doesn’t come close. Eventhough the BMW felt stiffer in the suspension, it was much less precise and stabile. In fact, there were better M3-versions in the past than the current one...
A very good, honest review. I've been you tubing the shit out off this car. I'm sold on it and will be ordering for 2019 delivery. CANNOT WAIT!!!!
There's only one error you made with this video. You mistakenly added a question mark in the title after ”better than an M3".. 🤣
Not even really that close, in my opinion.. M3s are simply too ubiquitously common, unreliable, and now not even the best anymore..
What a car the Giulia is, and a great video, too..
M3 is too unreliable yet you prefer the EVEN MORE unreliable Giulia? LMAO.
@@davissilvestrs1996 Not according to all the latest data from all across Europe. No denying the facts.
Mates M4 (younger than my Giulia) been back to dealership 3 times. Latest is due to electrical terminals corroding and electrical failures throughout vehicle due to water ingress. Giulia not a peep in same time. Plus, he's gutted every time he drives the Alfa, because he admits it's drives better! He's not your typical BMW fanboy, though, big enough to call it like it is: he spent more money on a less reliable, inferior drivers car. Just plain facts.
The saddest thing I've seen real BMW fanboys cling on to is that they might have superior "interior plastics!" A German magazine also brought this up, and were torn apart for it!
If that's all they have left, might as well go for a Merc or Audi (better interior quality than BMW).. Or even just go for a Toyota Corolla, because they have high quality plastics too!
@@davissilvestrs1996 have you tried a Giulia? Beautiful car. So different from "Germans", so Italian and Ferrari engines
@M5 ...choose it anytime, cause it's a car not a sofa
M5 ...change your name to M5 Rod Bearing Failure.....FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
What a perfect and beautiful 4 sedan monster!!! I love this car every day, it´s a simple art is this world!! Hugs from Portugal
10:32 not much wet in the grip :)
Very nice and dynamic review. The driving made all the difference. Subscribed.
Beautifully shot! great work
Awesome video and my god I love this car and want one badly 😩
by far the MOST UNDERRATED CHANNEL! Why there are only 33K Subs? Cannot be true. Keep up the excellent work!
Gonna give you some props.....your videos are really good...much better than other car channels. I think it's your delivery of the content when you speak.....
Alfa romeo heart of sports italian cars
Great view, skill driving & honest info, what a masterpiece of Giulia Quardifolio….
Alfa Romeo back on song 😁👍🏾
Great Video!!! The scenery was amazing along side the Giulia.
Mate this is sooooooo good man 👌❤😎
Superb video. Proper driving skills, objective points on the steering, handling and performance.
Enjoyed it, thanks
I will buy one someday 🤤
Sounds glorious!! That and the looks alone are enough to make this better than the M3 and C63.
Nice dance between you and the Alfa on that rainy mountain pass. Poetry in motion! Very nice review, sir.👌
TheMick26 Thank you very much!
Best Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio review on RUclips! By far, proper driving!
You are the German (Well, I suppose ahah) version of our Italian Davide Cironi. And let me tell you that you are such a skilled driver. I would like to have more friends like you ahaha
Like und Abo hast du Dir verdient! Dein Poker Face im Lotus? - Unbezahlbar ;)
Weiter so!
Love the video! Keep up the great work - excited to watch this channel really grow!
Thumbs up for opening shot.
Awesome video and great location! 👌🏻
Even covered in dirt that thing is breath taking
I am jealous of your roads! Great review. I get my Quad this week :)
Very nice shot in the beginning.
10:34 not too much wet in the grip :DD Feier dich, mach weiter so!
Great driving.
Great review. Good job. I canfirm the Pirelli tyres are super on dry tarmac but on wet or cold roads they struggle for grip.
Alfa n1....
Giulia quadrifoglio é uma verdadeira máquina italiana perfeita. Parabéns a ALFA ROMEO por mais uma obra de arte feita para nós alfistas👏👏👏👏👏
Great video! I'd love to drive one of these as well
I know how bad those tires are in the wet lol. I knew exactly what was going to happen at the end. Slippn and sliden everywhere.
Great video and enjoyed your review.
Amazing video! When you were driving on the mountain pass in the rain, were you using race mode or dynamic mode?
Great review man . I love this car
great driving! Is the car reliable over time? Thinking of getting the SUV version.
I've driven and owned a few M3s... F80's engine is just not that great... sounds even worse! After testing the Alfa QV, it's heads and shoulders better than the M3, it puts that "ultimate driving" machine tag to shame... based on that experience... would I buy one? that's a different story... reliability and depreciation after just a little over a year has been pretty bad... not sure if I want to pull the trigger because of that... but that car is amazingly good!
Here we go again....posting your nonsense again.....FORZA ALFA BABY.....
New BMW's = GERMAN TOYOTAS !!!
1) only an idiot would post Forza Alfa baby after every post
2) only an idiot would think BMWs are German Toyotas. As that's VW.
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!! AT THE START OF THE COMMENT !!!!
Really enjoyed the video, very cinematic. I know having the most expensive equipment doesn't always make someone produce a quality video but what camera + lens did you use for producing the in-car shots? Thanks!
Thanks man! I used a Sony A7S II with a Zweiss 28 /2.0 Lens!
HeelandToe.Blog Thanks so much for the reply :) Keep up the great work.
Great review .
The Giulia is a mid size car, not a big car, and definitely not heavy, you keep saying it has a lot of weight to move around.
Theoretically it is a mid size car, but im talking relative - as in generally as a car. Generally as a car it is big! And it is heavy weighing almost 1.7 tons! May not sound like too much or seem to big as cars constantly are getting bigger - but the Giulia (to me) is a big and heavy car!
Ich will den als Hand Schalter
You can't tell me 8:21 - 8:27 doesn't sound like him ripping farts lol
Great Piece! definitely got a new sub!
how a car suppose to be, direction precision, connection, if you drive an alfa you 'll know
Great video. One of the best and most interesting car impression videos that I have seen lately. The reason the Giulia QV sounds so unique is because it is actually two 3-cylinder motors joined at the crank to create the V6. 3-cylinder motors have a unique (and angry!) sound and that really works in the Giulia QV's favor I think.
BS, it is the V8 from Ferrari with two cylinders less as indicated by the 90° angle...
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It is very closely related to the Ferrari V8 and it has a firing order like two 3-cylinder motors which gives it its unique sound.
which mountain pass was that? is it in South Tyrol?
Timmelsjoch!
11:32 song name pls 🌹🙏
Keep it. Looks like a Pontiac. And reliability is an issue with Alfas. A shame because I love the 8c, 4c, and Stradale....Alfa makes some of the most beautiful cars in the world. But not this one. I’ll stick with my 911.
rich people problems lol
ahahah, you can get a Ferrari powered carbon sedan with an Italian soul and you are complaining about reliability?
It's definitely more reliable than the competition.
Also who the fuck compares an 911 to a QV?
Maybe someone who doesn't own an 911?
Normal..alfa romeo ist nr1
Alfa Romeo Giulia qv !!!
name of music???
Henrik olsson retriever is first song
Did you say Giulia PORTAFOGLIO??? Hahahahahahahah 😂😂😂
It's not the same block as the Ferrari engines you mention. The Alfa is a V6 first of all. Secondly, it's not developed by Ferrari, Alfa Romeo on the other hand has accuired people from Ferrari that was part of Alfa Romeo skunk works that developed this car.
Supposedly the engine is a deviation from the V8 found in the California T. Obviously it isn't the same exact block. However it is derived from a Ferrari engined and developed partly by Ferrari engineers.
what he said
Those tyres suck in the wet, as you now know. With Michelin PS4S it is much, MUCH better.
He wants to get things right it's a Ferrari v8 engine with 2 cylinders lopped off & this car is the dogs bo£&@x
It's the fastest car in its class round the & ring he looks about 10yrs old has he got a licence????
As an owner, I love the car, it's unique styling, the steering input, the sound of that twin turbo, but AR really needs to work on the reliability of the Ferrari derived V6.
what engine issues have you had with your Quadrifoglio Tony?
@@sultanoftippoo3857 numerous ETCS & MIL lights due to engine misfires. Engine was replaced twice, the third engine was on order; however, I just completed a buyback.
I should add that I bought a Stelvio Ti Sport, and will be upgrading to a Stelvio QV once the V6 engine is refined.
Tony Mireles many thanks Tony, hope it all works out for you. I’ve just bought a Giulia QF that arrives in 2 weeks - just hoping the engine in mine behaves itself
Defenitely Better than an M3.
Looks better, faster, quicker and more reliable...
www.whatcar.com/news/2018-what-car-reliability-survey/n17810
The fuck? The interior feels the exact same as a BMW. I've sat in both cars within minutes of each other, and you don't feel a difference.
You are just too young to know. To know what alfa is about
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How dare you insinuate that the Honda is even in the same room! You guys always want to make all cars equal except in the numbers.... three words Ped Di Gree! Emitch333.wixsite.com/agatolwey
I love both cars and people shouldnt recognize that even the fact of the Type-R doesnt have the class and style and refinement of the Giulia which is my first choice. the FK8 is a track weapon. Its not an Atom or X-Bow but for a road car is a wonderful track car.
This video is actually ridiculous. wow
You are hilariously close to the steering wheel.
It makes it very hard to take your opinion seriously
Hahahaha, this is great - would you rather I sit much farther away from the wheel resulting in me having much less control of the vehicle, and then giving my opinion? If you would have done any sort of driver training you would know what im talking about ;)
HeelandToe.Blog
I have done driver training, which is why I made my initial comment.
Instead of being a prick ready to snap back with a retort, you should ask yourself why I said what I said.
You are too close to the wheel to have full, unimpeded control over the car.
There are times where you could hit your elbow against your sides because your arms aren’t extended far enough.
Also, the wheel is tilted too far up for your driving position.
In the even of a crash, the airbag would cause more injuries to you rather than provide safety.
You should be positioned to where, if you fully extend your arms, your wrists would rest on top of the wheel.
That gives enough space to:
1. Have full range of motion with your arms
2. Prevent your joints from locking in the event of a crash
3. Give the airbag sufficient time to fully deploy
4. Prevent the airbag cover from causing more injuries to you
And because of your condescending, know-it-all attitude, you just lost a subscriber
Firstly i'll apologize for being snappy - didn't mean to come across like that. Your comment genuinely just made me smile and wasn't trying to snap back/be too serious. I'll agree on the wheel being too far up, since driving that car i've gotten used to putting the wheel lower. Otherwise, i feel perfectly comfortable with driving the car in the position i do. And just a note, your comment on my seating position being "hilarious" and it apparently disregarding my opinion (important word here, opinion!) - makes any expected response a just as negative as to the initial comment you gave. Maybe something to think about. Aye, have a good one.
Great driving skills young man!!... Loved the video and subscribed !!!..... What road are you on through the mountains?
3.6 seconds to 100 apparently. I think not.
100 kph
@@erikbagger4870 definitely not 3.6 seconds to get to 62mph. definitely not consistently even on the semi slicks the car comes with
Chris Harris: "Is it (Alfa Romeo Giulia) as good as an M3, objectively, No I don't think it is". (Chris Harris Drives Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio). Enough said...
I'm pretty sure Harris drove in an pre/very early production model.
Considering that this is the first foray back into super saloon territory for Alfa in 20 years, I'd give them a little leeway in getting bedded in.
The progress in the first year or so since first releasing the Giulia for those first reviews is about 7 seconds quicker at the Nurburgring (fastest 4 door saloon in the world) and a quantum leap in reliability/satisfaction measures after ironing out initial bugs (now above BMW and Mercedes by metrics).
Almost all testers after Harris have went for the Giulia.. Probably no coincidence..
The Giulia you will buy right now, today, is almost certainly better than an M3... Not sure the brand new 3 series platform is going to change that fact.. We shall see!
Not sure what you're basing your guess that Chris drove a preproduction model that was somehow not up to snuff? To that point, I don't think he was even comparing it with the BMW CP. From some of the videos I've seen, people who have had a chance to review it like it, but often do point out glitches in just the one day of driving. Consumer Reports rated Alfa #4 of the 10 worst car brands (MAR. '18) BMW's not on that list. I'm not hating on Giulia, I actually like much about them. Speaking for myself, I was in position back in May and considered C63S, Giulia & M3 CP. All the cars at this level are amazing, and I could go back & forth over performance, styling, reputation and reviews. For my money I went with BMW CP.
He drove a car with the transmission and Q4/Q2 setup not finalised for market (as you can see on the video) Essentially all early videos on the Giulia mentioned the transmission setup still being in limbo at that time.
As mentioned, final ZF 8 speed rear wheel drive setups you will buy today almost universally have come out beating C63s and M3s in reviews and on track.
Consumer Reports? US organisation?
That wouldn't surprise me, as Alfa seem to be parachuting thier assault on the US market from a standing start by initially utilising the existing woeful Chrysler/Fiat dealerships.
Again, as previously mentioned, apples to apples (European networks) the Giulia is now coming out ahead of the M3s, C63s in satisfaction/reliability metrics. As well as having them beat in almost every review and, of course, on the track.
Check out (BMW M3 vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia QV - Fastestlaps.com). Unless perhaps there is some conspiracy here or these were Alfas not ready for prime-time? How about what most every review is saying about the awkward brake feel and reaction? Also may want to check out (Car and Driver: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifolio. Longterm road test update), "Hello Alfa dealer, it's us again". It is a beautiful car and posts some great numbers, just sayin' I chose to stay away because of too many questions regarding reliability. If you feel confident that it won't be in the shop after spending around 80K plus, be my guest.
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Verbatim quote from fastestlaps.com BMW M3 vs Alfa QV (the place you quoted to look): "Summary Verdict: Giulia QV is fastest by a small margin".
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What is being missed in all of this is that Alfa has parachuted back into the Super Saloon segment from a standing start and is competing (usually winning) by most metrics against M division and AMG with their undoubted advantage of decades of incremental experience.
One, that is astonishing. Two, it points to the inevitably that the Giulia is only going to improve on an already winning formula with the benefit of similar incremental tweaking.
Case in point: the brake by wire system that you (somewhat exaggeratingly) pointed out felt less than perfect on earlier reviewers. Software updateable! Been done!
I don't need to "be your guest" regarding trying/buying the Giulia. I'm over a year into ownership. Not one single foible on two cars (one non QV). Perhaps you may have seen another comment I made on this video regarding my mates (newer!) M4? Been back to BMW THREE times already, including water ingress causing terminal corrosion and loss of all electrical systems. There is a man who spent more money on his M4, yet now freely admits he prefers the Giulia when driving it! That's not one of the many RUclips/motoring press reviewers that chose the Giulia, that's someone choosing it over his own, recently purchased car! So I know a thing or two about envious and regretful BMW drivers, as there is a running joke going on daily between us in that regard!
All mostly moot anyway, as all new cars have warranties, incase anyone had forgotten! (Who are these people that are buying new M3s, C63s and Quadrifoglio's that are then keeping them past their warranty expiration?) I quite often hear the lazy, unsubstantiated "Alfa reliability" meme brought up as if it were a) still true and, b) even relevant in this regard.
Part of the magic of the Giulia, is that it is also supremely comfortable when required. Almost unbelievably so. I'm talking on a par with something like a Citroën C6, which I have previously owned. Ferraris "Bumpy Road Mode" technology brought to bear. It's quite unbelievable to the point where it becomes a virtue on a par with the insane engine and incredible steering.
That very fact makes a mockery of Competition Packs, Jaguar Project 8s, etc, etc.. Desperately hacking out the parts of what makes a Super Saloon what it is: a proper, fast, useable saloon car, not a fast Flintstones car. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face springs to mind. More money for less car. No thanks. I'll hire an Ariel Atom or Caterham for the once every month or so I would want that particular experience.
I'm looking forward to seeing what BMW does with their upcoming new generation M3.
This segment is certainly more exciting than it has been for a while, that's for sure.
M3 any day, keep the Gulia for yourself
with pleasure my friend, we'll meet on the road and then see who's regretting ;)
@@edwardabrahams2353 Nobody will regret ,we just see different quallities in these cars. I like alfa gulia too, but respect M3 more. You're the opposite. Some other will buy C63 or Lexus , or GtR. I said I personally prefer M3 competition pack because I find it faster on track , more beautiful, more roomier and better build inside. Engine is a masterpiece too, with a little touches it becomes a real beast over 700 hp with stock internals and returns decent fuel economy.
@@pachokardana6192 Deutsche Qualitat, oh ja!
Check it out: ruclips.net/video/4HrpvNXd0j8/видео.html
You can find more M3 engine blow up videos ...
Not impressed! The car, YES! You, NOT so much! Before you review a car, you should know more about it rather than guessing or just making things up as you go. The "A" of the DNA/Race does NOT mean All Weather! Suggestions: Learn how to drive before you hurt yourself or others. DON'T buy an Alfa. You seem to be more of a German car Fanboy.
Bloody hell thats some negativity. So i was wrong with the terminology of one thing? So - mistakes happen. Me saying all weather could also have been more of a description what the mode is for (which is correct), than using the absolute correct terminology. Why do I need to learn how to drive/what gives you the impression I cant drive? Why NOT buy an Alfa? What's wrong with being a fan of german cars? Bring your bloody hatred somewhere else on the internet.
Hey Steve, I hope you're okay buddy, you seem very frustrated! Robert is one of the most skllillful and talented drivers on the planet, like myself he choses to make car videos in his spare time, our main reason for doing this is to share our experiences with others who a) enjoy it and/or b) aren't fortunate enough to get their hands on such nice cars. We do occasionally get some facts and statistics wrong, this is because you're not watching a paid advertising campaign by Alfa. I suggest in the future you tune into another channel (just like you would on a tv) and watch content that does make you happy! Although reading your comment back again, it does seem you have other more pressing issues only a specialist doctor could help with. Either way good luck finding happiness. Kind Regards, Joe x
close factory. ugly alfa. used boxter better
@Hale Ryan no I want not that pussy car. no thanks. u many many buy. I like used audi a8 v12 6.0 or porsche than that tomato car
are you a bit soft in the head fella?
@@sultanoftippoo3857no... but tomato sauce in you r head
ugly asia car never not buy Sorry, you’ll need to construct a sentence that we can understand. Not many people speak fluent moron like you
Check out Car and Driver's long term review. These don't even come close to BMWs reliability.
Jeez. You're not biased much. BMW owner. I have one. It's been perfect. This was the FIRST model in 20 years to compete in the sport sedan segment, and it's better than the competition. Wait until they improve it.
@@danadm I had written something else, but have since deleted it. Realized it sounded combative. Just gets frustrating when overall in Europe they have a higher reliability rating than BMW, but everyone keeps perpetuating how much they break down. They're as good or better numbers- wise than competing brands. Check it out.
A BMW owner talking about reliability? Lol ok
My E39 is still running great at 260k miles, and my E46 at 275k miles. There's a reason why they call these engines bullet proof. I think you're mistaking maintenance cost with reliability.
Then you'd also understand why Alfa has a bad name, people mistake maintenance with reliability ;)
Excellent review