Edge CRITICISES John Cena's Feud With The Nexus!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- On tour with Inside The Ropes live back in 2018, Edge gives his criticism of John Cena's feud with The Nexus and why it didn't live up to it's potential at WWE Summerslam 2010. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews, and don't forget to like and comment too!
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Did John Cena bury The Nexus? Let us know in the comments below!
He absolutely did, intentionally or otherwise. The seeds were planted and the growth potential was limitless to create a new batch of superstars. Then we got the flatline of an ending that transpired. Edge and Jericho were never going to be wrong, because that's what wisdom from growing within the business afforded them.
Yes he did.
Cena collected more souls than The
Undertaker 😂
No
Yes he did
Edge pretty much told us that Cena did a "That doesn't work for me, brother." on Nexus.
Vince made the decision
@@andrewwright4195Cena has a lot power to change Vince’s mind he buried nexus like he buried others before them
@@RickyDiankuluit was terrible and made no sense.
@@RickyDiankulu if watched wade he told you kids need a happy ending they just decided the frinsh the hogan had power card stone cold didn't like losing to anyone neither did triple h
@@RickyDiankulu cena made lost more stars than hogan triple h and stone cold and the rock that for sure
"As soon as we lose to Cena, we are just like everyone else." .... Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley on the Shield vs Cena
John Cena and Randy Orton vs The Raw Roster.
I remember watching that match, and all I could think was "Super Cena did it again".
Same Here
Vince
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Cena wins lol
Cry more
yep, Vince did it to appeal to the kids and beta basement dwellers who cheered for babyface Cena, it's no secret that WWE is doing better these days without hitching all their pushes on Super Cena
Fun fact, after beating the Nexus, Cena lost 6 Summerslam matches in a row, most of them clean. If he lost in 2017, he would have lost one time for every member of the Nexus he put down that night.
Wait he faced baron corbin in ss 2017 but was corbin even in the nexus???
@@JohnChina321I think he’s sayin that if he lost that match with Corbin, every loss he suffered as SummerSlam would avenge everyone in the nexus, which were 7 members, only member who beat him in a match who were in Nexus was Daniel Bryan, and even then he was on Cena’s team that night
@@JohnChina321 do you know how to read?
Yes. But it's okay. He lost his summerslam match to beat the 16x world championship record against Roman and got an F5 from Brock after that.
@@JohnChina321dumb 💩😒
I'm a Cena fanboy but he didn't just bury the Nexus. He basically put them in an underground tomb and poured concrete all over it.
Apart from bray
@@JackChalmers-qs1rltrue at least with bray he got his ultimate revenge dissecting him psychologically to the core
@@JackChalmers-qs1rlBray was so green back then. It's nothing to bury at that time of his early career
@@Qin_LeeNot really i don't think because Bray found a way to come out on top literacy everyone in these type of groups gets buried and never to be seen again but with Bray he come back fighting and didn't let them bury him , you see there is a way of fighting back and not fighting back like most do.
@@cliffsenac2825 Bray was also not part of the original nexus
Wade Barrett coulda been a world champ and i will die in that hill.
It wasn't entirely Cena's fault that Barrett never became the star he deserved to be. Poorly timed injuries were what killed off Barrett's momentum.
@@Emper0rH0rde not trying to blame cena or anything. but yea the injuries. tho i heard wade was kinda stiff too :\
@@SimianScienceWade had all the tools. Nexus wins at SummerSlam, no reason he isn't champ by 2009.
@@joshuasteward6097Nexus was in 2010 Pal.
Could've????? He SHOULDVE been WWE Champ.
Edge highlighted an important point here: there is stuff that should be protected against kickouts so that when it happens and wrestlers kick out even after, such as a sledgehammer hit, or ddt on concrete, even finishers, it looks awesome. The problem with WWE is that this stuff happens too often nowadays, often on a weekly basis: people kicking out of finishers, steel chair shots etc. There is no "OMG WOW" factor anymore. Look at recent Lesnar/Goldberg/Reigns matches. If all you have in the match is a sequence of finishing moves, who is gonna care when the 19th spear is hit when people have kicked out of the previous 18?
Orange cassidy has entered this chat space 😂😂😂
I really do get where your coming from, but considering most of these guys have fought eachother 100s of times at the very least, shouldn’t they technically as wrestlers know there opponents finisher and it’s not as effective considering they have had it done to them a bunch over the years, like Seth should be able to walk off spears better then most people considering he’s fought Roman and beat him every single time while kicking out of some of his spears
There is no steel chair shots anymore to the head hence why they'll kick out of a shot to the back unless it's a conchairto and no one will ever kick out of one of those I do get what u saying tho
Yup spots to a spot, false finishes and 50/50 bookings make no sense and doesn't draw
@@guccitaco9028 just because you have fought someone 100 times doesn't make his finisher any less devastating. If you have fought someone as many times, you should know how to counter his moves and not let them use it. But once used, you should stay down. THAT increases believability.
The thing about being DDT'ed on exposed concrete floor and walking it off is wild.
If you have been watching prowresting for a while you know that when Jake the Snake DDT'ed Ricky Steamboat on concrete he was injured for weeks. He had to learn how to walk again.
So for Cena to walk it off and win a match, is stupid. That's something you do when you want to shelve someone. You don't use it as a spot in a match.
Wow! That’s a dope bit of info , I definitely gotta go back n watch that jake the snake rivalry now!
I'd argue that they either shouldn't have done the spot at all or should've had Cena counter it into a move on the concrete himself, so then at least his comeback would make the Nexus look a bit better as he essentially had to injure them to win.
@@WessideVibezif I remember correctly when Jake did a shoot on the incident he said to the agent or whoever AND steamboat that it was a big risk and if ricky didn't get his hands up in time he'd end up concussed or worse, naturally the match went on, Ricky asked him to hit the DDT on the concrete and wham, knocked out cold, jake had to roll him back into the ring to get the pin and finish the match
Cena acted like hogan there no seeling moves
@@WessideVibez
Even when The Bezerker did the Pile driver on the cement on The Undertaker on superstars, it took Paul getting the urn to get him back up and he still sold the effects of it
The freaking Deadman
So crazy edge was in the crowd while Bret heart was being interviewed, now he’s the legend getting the interview
Dude, THIS. This makes me feel good to hear someone from the actual wrestling world discuss this. That whole Cena VS the Nexus stuff was THEE moment within my adulthood where I generally lost interest in pro wrestling as a form of entertainment that I watch weekly. It's 2023 now and I dont know a thing about who's who. Luckily there is a community of fans of that kind in the wrestling world where we sit and talk about those eras and before and learn all the funny stories and crazy stuff behind the scenes. So in THAT sense, I am still a fan.
I remember when Nexus first attacked. I was stranded in Florida and my friends called me all excited to tell me some NWO like stuff went down 😂 I was mad for missing it, but I caught up maybe the end of that week. I was so excited to see them pushing newer guys but also, and this is VERY important, something OTHER than Cena. As a younger adult, I had been watching pretty much since like 89, or 1990. But to see whatever the next generation's "Hulk Hogan" is... and then seeking something more out of good guys and bad guys, made you realize how formulaic it all is. Same thing w hulk, and I was just another one of the millions of kids who just followed. So I get it- but John Cena just kept winning and winning and the more he won, the less they made ANYTHING on a wrestling show about anyone but John Cena LMAO
But to see him bury an idea that was pregnant with possibilities- It was just numbing. I dont even think I watched for a few weeks after that to see what the epilogue of the feud was. It was just THEE defining incident that made me fall off wrestling. Now I just like watching old Dean Malenko matches on RUclips lol.
It’s been talked to death at this point. Literally everyone involved including cena said he was wrong to push for going over the nexus at this point.
Barrett explained in a great bit years ago how the finish was changed the day of the show and they went up to vince complaining and explaining why this shouldn’t happen. All he could say to them was that summerslam needed a happy ending.
In my opinion tbe faces going over wasn’t tbe problem but how Cena won was.
@@SN27671I think you raise a good point. Had they done a surprise roll up and maybe done something like Wade having his foot on the rope and the reft not seeing it, yes it would of been a bit naff but you get Cena Winning so the kids are happy and Nexus can say they were cheated and it adds to their anti wwe agenda.
Funny bc there was this vibe in the air at this time (2010) that there would be a new era emerging. That the Cena era needed to be cooled down to allow new blood come in ; Dolph, Cody, Zack Ryder (Cardona) , Drew Mcintyre. So when NEXUS came out, it was a fresh breath of air and people were so excited to get this attiude era esque direction in 2011. If you saw the original 2010 NXT, you saw that Husky Harris ( Bray), Daniel Bryant , Wade Barret had the it factor, these were Blue Chip recruits that were going to get big by 2018 if they were managed right. But just look at the CARLITO promo he had with Cena, about how Carlito said, its just not him who want Shaemus to win, its the whole locker room, that was what the forum fans were thinking.
So when CENA just kept on winning, and winning, and winning against the Nexus. You knew that the WWE was just pkng with the fans and letting them know that this was Vinces show and he wanted all the attiude era fans gone , and the PG ERA was here to stay.
Saltiest moment to be a fan. Then when the wwe tried to reboot the nexus with the Shield years later, and then do the same to those fans .. it was a pattern.
Suprisingly, it was CODY RHODES who was relugated to stardust at that time, that went on to spark the revolution of change. and Husky Harris became Bray Wyatt and Zack Ryder became Matt Cardona, and Mcintyre got a championship.
Cody forming a rival company forced the wwe to change & end the PG era.
I'm another guy who Super Cena pushed away from wrestling. Only it happened even before for me. I had had enough of Super Cena by late 2009 lol. Sucks that now he's deemed as the ''greatest''. Nothing could be further from the truth...but the ''kids that had to go home happy'' are now all grown and really did take over being the majority of WWE's fanbase alongside the current kids.
Cena's gimmick was cancer for wrestling, but it was the perfect gimmick to capture the lil kids and it did work to perfection in the long run...
they were not that good for you to quit wrestling over, and CENA is a WWE Staple. Womp Womp
the laugh when he mentioned R-Truth annoys the hell out of me.. give R-Truth the respect he deserves
Fans that laugh and look down on at R-truth and Comedy wrestling because they don’t like comedy in wrestling because they feel it takes away for the realism but theses are the same what if you made the watch D1 colleges wrestling or Greco Roman wrestling they would say it’s boring and doesn’t have action so don’t let it get to you
Even heel ass Edge looked at the crowd like "really?"
British people have a weird sense of humor. They think that they are funny but they're not.
Especially when R Truth is a former world champion in another promotion I think it was NWA the promotion Flair was at before WWE and WCW
Same that shit pissed me off. Disrespectful af
Anybody else remember when Cena used his rematch clause for the wwe title to beat Rey mysterio on the same night that Rey beat the miz? And he was a good guy. As a kid I only liked cena for his first year as the wwe champion and then got bored of seeing him by the time I turned twelve. Seeing the same people in the main event just makes the show feel like nothing ever changes.
If Cena had done the job to Nexus, you could've done more business with them, and you could've ran with Cena chasing to get his win back for a year. This whole thing was incredibly shortsighted.
Cena was all that mattered at the time. Austins forced retirement probably played a part, Vince was never going to have Cena look weak and ruin riding the Cena train similar to how he wanted to non-stop push Austin in 2000 until he had to lower his ring time. Nexus we're created to make Cena look unbeatable, they weren't created to go over and run a long term heel faction. That's not to say he should have changed this when they got red hot, if course they should have gone over, and Barrett should have won the title and kept it a good 9 months to really sell the story, then have Barrett lose it and the group slowly loses desire and motivation for Barrett with Cena finally ending them. Barrett winning the belt at bragging rights would have reignited the storyline and Nexus, but they had Cena do what he did and then he became the invader. It was all about Cena, he's a piece of sh!t that spits on the business and breaks the 4th wall constantly,, his "how about heel turn" gag proves he's a scumbag on the business.
Also the star that wade barrett was and could've been, what a completely wasted moment. Then he went on to get fuckin wrecked by Orton too, he just couldn't get made by anyone
@@therebel4332 The Nexus were garbage anyway. None of them had any potential other then Wade Barrett
@@therebel4332 LOL Cena did nothing to the business that hasn't already been done before
@@jordannewsom3606 no but they weren't sold as individuals they were sold as a faction. Strength in numbers, dirty tactics, sly types, etc. They were red hot as a heel faction ffs,, they were booked as that.. what don't you understand about that?. As for Barrett he was pretty much outshone by Bryan, Bray and Ryback (all in that faction) even Curtis Axel had a similar push to Barrett after Nexus. Barrett was and should have been a main eventer for a good few years, but Vince seemed to hold back British/Foreign talent.
Nexus walked so the Shield could run....unfortunate but that's kinda what happened.
sure but then again, maybe there wouldn't have been a shield because nexus would become the big bad stable if they won. guess we'll never really know.
@@kendirkkpretty much saying the same thing.
WWE were planning on having Team Cena Vs The Shield at Survivor Series 2013 lucky it didn’t happened John Cena would’ve buried them just like Nexus
I don't know if the comparison to Shield really works here other than they both were groups that attacked people and overpowered them because of there was more of them. But Nexus was a group that consisted of a bunch of failed competitors on a show to find the next big star. They were intentionally embarrassed, looked down on, talked down to, referred to as rookies etc. for months and every single one of them except for the leader were losers. Basically the only reason they were a threat to anyone was because there were 8 of them. Whereas Shield was dangerous because of the specific people involved in it and their teamwork and chemistry and whatnot. Nobody ever referred to them as losers or rookies, they were treated as a dangerous threat from the very beginning. In comparison, Nexus was a group of people throwing a tantrum because they failed to become WWE superstars and Shield was three dangerous men looking to make it on their own, but together.
@@MinimiMaxThe Shield were treated like rookies from NXT trying to make a name for themselves in the beginning of their angle. Also, they were CM Punk's Goons at first.
a laugh for Rtruth being in the main event but no laugh for khali is insane
I think the big problem with this was the mind set of WWE which is a babyface territory, that old line of Hogan must pose, and it reared its head. I think because Vince and the creative team were like well they'll get their heat back but failing to release this is that original NWO heat that you can't manufacture these heels are crazy over because they've destroyed everyone. The only silver lining is after this they handled The Shield far better and didn't let them lose that heat.
Cena still kicking out of a pile driver on concrete was a completely baffling moment
It was b.s. Little johnny needed to look like Superman.
@@davidgraham8299 dude John cena was the face of wwe he needed that win at summerslam 2010
@@JL1goathe’s the easiest guy to push. You think him losing would’ve made any inch of difference to his career or future storylines 😂
That’s the problem with wrestling in past 2 decades. It’s hard to tell the right story when guys don’t want to put people over
This has been a problem since before Hulk Hogan, what the fuck are you talking about?
That problem was much worse in the 80s & 90s.
It was way worse back in the day. Shawn and the whole locker room only cared for themselves. Save for Jericho who was a very unselfish guy.
Yeah because before that the coked up egos were more than happy to put over others. Shawn Michaels being a prime example
@@alphomega2459 The Storylines were better in Shawn's era. The best storylines in Cena's era had nothing to do with him.
As I look at edge and wades interviews and the amount of things they were told I’m starting to believe that john did had a big part of not putting nexus over and yes I am a fan of John but to me this is one of those moments where you really gotta hate him for that bcuz Nexus we’re huge during that time and for them just making them an after thought and not putting them over really does leave a bad taste in your mouth. Ik john did put other guys over but this is one he definitely should’ve put over especially wade since he was the leader of the group
Blame Vince McMahon
I always knew it was Something with Cena cause it’s funny how a couple years later they formed the Shield and look how all that went for them.
@@Get_benjiThe Shield actually were pretty successful unlike Nexus since Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and John Moxly became multi time world champions in WWE and AEW.
Cena was like Hall and Nash, happy to lose when it doesnt really matter. Then they can say, "see i put people over". Smart. Shitty but smart.
That run made no sense he has put people over when he didn't have to.
Let's not bring up conspiracy theories
Agree with Edge here, he's always done the right thing for business, which is why it doesn't make sense that he beat Balor at WrestleMania this year, especially if he was retiring very soon.
thats bullshit, thats nothing more than HHH and Cena saying what is best for them... the push and the saying power cena has with WWE was evident for 2 decades. many careers ruined because of it.
It's kinda funny that you mentioned that, edge complaining about cena burying the nexus while edge barely did any jobs since his return and beat the entire judgment day and also aj styles....as he said....that doesn't make any sense....
Edge beating Balor might just have been WWE giving the audience that night as many big babyface wins as they could since the main event was Roman Reigns beating Cody.
@@TheUltimateVoidi think to a degree it makes sense that hes beaten a few of those. Balor i think definitely needed to go over and should've already been world champion. But him winning matches after such a crazy ass return means a lot to fans, i agree with him winning any match except that balor one at mania, i think his whole return was them making things up to him for giving him such shitty title runs throughout his career, guy was always an incredible champion that somehow always managed to lose almost every feud he was in lmao.
Balor is never going to be a top guy. He was lucky to get a chance to lose to Edge.
Holy shit, this dude took 2 minutes to ask a question. That was BRUTAL.
I never understood the direction they went with Cena vs. the Nexus. Was not the best time for WWE's writing and booking at the time.
It's because they didn't want to stop shoving Cena down our throat. Why do you think CM Punks pipe bomb 💣 went over so well. Another thing that got a strong start but then they floundered it.
It’s not the creative that made that choice it’s Cena, if he didn’t like direction of creative he must have been allowed to change it similar to Hogan. And he never got shit for it the way Punk gets shit for being an asshole. I rather work with an asshole that will not compromise my career then a nice guy to your face that will completely derail a career. I know Wyatt passed away but imagine where he would have been had he beaten Cena. Every up and coming talent that he believed could be a danger to his standing in the company lost their feud with him. It’s worse then Triple H was.
@@younglove3362I know why they did, I just didn't understand why they thought the fans would blindly eat it up. I'm glad Punk pointed it out, even if it was partially a work, he got people to see the situation for what it was.
@@EAmotion You're right, creative was frustrated by all the rewritten scripts and dropping all plans to put Cena over. I wish they would've put Bray over him when they had the chance but that and many opportunities were lost because Vince had to have the unstoppable Super Cena.
@EAmotion half of the people from the nexus got a singles push of a tag team run their careers weren't ruined stop being a big baby and get off punks jock dude is a asshole and deserves all the hate he gets, he is just another cry baby that's going to be making money doing shoot interviews trashing every company he has been apart of then try to go In the movie business if he can make it there.
Wade Barett should have been a multi time world champ
Agreed, could still be a massive star today if they hadn't drained that guy of all passion.
he was heavily pushed for many years after leaving Nexus but he was always getting injured....
@@TheDragosdragoshe got really over as bad news barrett but vince or whoever wanted him to stop it because he was too over as a heel and getting cheered more instead of boos. so even without those injuries, vince/wwe pulled the plug on what got him over
Wade Barrett joins a long list of superstars who should've been world champion namely Mr Kennedy and EC3. They nearly dropped the ball with Drew McIntyre too. Now we can only hope they don't drop the ball with the megastar L...A...KNIGHT...YEAH
So John did an interview & he himself said that the Nexus should have won he was just in a different place at the time
i see what you’re trying to do here. you’re really exposing a lot. i appreciate this
Cena never wanting to put young talent over
He has put over more talents than he buried
That's when TNA ratings were kicking WWE's ass
Wade Barrett would have been a former or even a current World Champion had Nexus won at SS
I'm going to play a bit of devil's advocate here. Now not only was Nexus still prominently featured for a few months after the feud (lots of burials result in stars doing just dark matches and house shows), but the Summerslam bout of established stars against new guys with no look and no gimmick could easily have been rectified. Literally have Nexus recruit some other low-standing guys and have more wreckings and backstage brawls the next night on RAW. Simple as that.
Sure the wrong team won at Summerslam, but that didn't have to be the beginning of the end.
Cena had some sneaky attitude back then. He loved to play on both sides. When Vince changed his mind about the final of the match because "kids need to go home happy" he went with the ball and told Barrett that kids need to go home happy. But when he encountered Edge and Jericho he told them exactly what they wanted to hear. It was a mistake and blah blah...
John played backstage politics well, but he could've done the right thing and go talk to Vince and put Nexus over that night.
Exactly or he could've pulled a Hogan and went heel and led the nexus you want to send the kids home happy or do you want sky high ratings and give the people something new he was getting booed anyway because he was stale same thing happened to Hulk Hogan then he changed and elevated to another level everybody who was the face of company changed Rock and Austin even Roman and it elevated them all.
@@tyyrreekk9005no dipsht only old boomers hating on Cena Vince was looking at kid's children means family Cena was a golden goose 🦆 you can cry all you want but Cena was the reason PG-13 WWE survive
@@tyyrreekk9005Cena and Edge should’ve became a team and led the new Nexus.
@@CmjunkiegotnoballsCena is the reason that fans left in droves, mate. They were tarping off over half empty arenas, they had good moments during this time. But cena and vince both were afraid of a new star being brewed and leaving like Lesnar did. They weren't ever gonna risk that shit again after Lesnar/Rock both.
Cena lucky Edge and Jericho didn't swing on him. They been in the company since the Attitude Era and had to answer to that dunce? That's nonsense.
Bloody hell he took ages asking that question, brother we are not here to listen to you we are here for edge shut up 😭😭
What made super Cena aweful wasn't the fact that he was so OP. It's the fact that he just lost big match after big match cleanly in his latter years, when he still looked great. That made little sense. That was too obvious.
Facts they just have cena job to everyone now
I feel this is constantly being asked on this show! Lol you just uploaded the same question with Wade haha.
They still want to believe the Nexus Conspiracy Theory lol
Im all for Nexus beating team WWE, but my big question is now what? How far do they go with the Nexus angle if Nexus wins? Was Vince and co onboard with the Nexus the way they were the Shield? That's the only thing.
They would have loss at Survivor Series 2010 and end up disbanding the night after like The Alliance back in 2001
Nowhere lol.
"these kids are cookin 🔥" - Edge 2018
A great point is inadvertently made during the pre-amble. 53 year-old head injury limited Bret Hart, an increasingly immobile Great Khali...... some of the WWE team line-up buried the Nexus, let alone Cena winning.
I remember watching WWE the first time when I was a kid and edge was my first favorite superstar.
Nexus and Wade Barrett deserved more.
You mean Wade? Clearly could have mentioned the guys names but they were indie talent. Guys that would be on heat or velocity regularly in the ruthless aggression era (if they were lucky)
So did Justin Gabriel
Wade became successful after that let it go already
@@kaylawilliams6477he could have been so much more. He was just in the mid card for his career. He could have been a new top heel for the company which WWE really needed in 2010 cos Batista and Jericho had left or were leaving, and Edge and Orton had turned face. That's why they gave Miz the brief case and title but that didn't work at all as he wasn't a credible top heel. Had Barrett and nexus won, they would have been elevated and Barrett would have been able to stay there.
@@tombardsley3081 had they not had the dumb nexus idea or had wrestlers that weren’t green as shit all over the stable in the first place then maybe Wade would of had a chance.
And for reasons like that Cena was hated in the past. To be more precisely because of dumb booking that made him Superman. I remember that match Nexus was hot as hell and they had to go over without doubt. Sure Nexus story continued but it just wasn't the same. If Nexus went over here they could become as big as Shield did.
Not even close
Your so ignorant and wrong about John Cena
Good old times when Chris Jericho actually cared about future of young talent, even tho the feud wasn't against him, lately it's been completely opposite. 😑😑
He ruined MJF's momentum and then got upset when Punk was lighting fires under MJF, Darby Allen, Wardlow and Eddie Kingston.
Just this year alone he’s put over Will Osprey, Adam Cole, Roderick Strong, Ricky Starks, Action Andretti. What makes you think he’s doing the opposite?
Edge is a real one,no matter whats with his personal life he always gave 100% and did what best for the buisness,he was born for this.
As a kid I lost my mind from happiness when cena won, jumping all around the room 😂
@@DanteMidoriya your mom had low standarts when she married your popa
@@BadselSthere's no need to insult him like that
just cringe af
how old are you ? 12?
what a nerd still using mom insult 😂
This dude's question was half the video
Barret said that Vince made the decision and said its Summerslam Wade we need to send the kids home happy so not sure how much was on Cena
Cena apparently had an influence on the decision
@@tombardsley3081 Not according to Y2J
R-Truth is one of the greatest
This is old news. Inside the Ropes loves to do this
I remember being at that Raw in Sacramento 2:06 . Ridiculously loud crowd
The laughter after he says R Truth is so disrespectful
You're trying to say that Ron was an A-star by the time of 2010?
People (including Edge) defending the Nexus is MIND BOGGLING
unlike Cena edge actually tries to help younger talents Zack Ryder Kurt Hawkins rhea Ripley Damien priest all come to Mind. Cena on the other hand nope
No one has hurt more young wrestler's pushes than Cena. People complain there are no stars these days but never blame him. He's still doing it too. He's killed Austin Theory's career and is going after LA Knight (not young but still up and coming) now because he's so over.
Austin Theory is garbage
Cena literally put over LA Knight
All of these stuff are scripted so stop being so dramatic
He put over Austin Theory clean at WrestleMania 39. Try again
I was at that Juan Cena show! It was in Biloxi, Mississippi and the Nexus came out in a Bull Costume to challenge him for not actually being a Luchador/Matador
It Was Completely Unnecessary.
Another story of John Cena and his golden shovel
You still believe that?
@@lancethefilmguy9392in this case it was that story
Barrett could have been the first British WWE champion but they Buried him instead for John Cenas ego.
McMahon ego
If Edge narrated a book, or voiced a character in animation, I would probably enjoy it a lot more than I should. The guy has such a smooth voice.
It wasn't just this summer slam. This was the entire Cena era. He and Vince refused to build new stars. It was without a doubt the most stale era in pro wrestling history. Even when Cena didn't win... He won. Iykyk.
John cena and edge awesome
Unpopular opinion Team Cena going over against Team Nexus was correct. I was in highschool at that time and I definitely wanted to see Team Cena win. What should have happened is that they should have booked a different sole survivor to elevate one's career (think Ziggler being the sole survivor in Team Cena against Team Authority in 2014)
Yup. It’s all perspective
I’m with you!
Just because it was the desired outcome doesn't make it the right outcome. They could have done so much more storyline wise if Nexus had gone over.
@@CCEkeke I agree with this as well. I’m hindsight there’s many storylines that could’ve been better 🤷🏽♂️
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Half the video is asking the question!
i don't get why are pepole blaming cena like he's running the company, the pepole that needs to be blamed are the writers, wwe creative and especially the man running the entire show vince , cena just did what he was asked to do just did his job .
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Jericho said that it was Vince McMahon who made that decision
In the old days, they would backwards plan an angle, sometimes out to a year. Meaning, they would go to the next year, and plan the ending of the angle, usually at a big pay per view, then plan back to when it starts. Today, doesn't happen.
This was the tipping for me and I started becoming annoyed of Cena. I still had to endure almost a decade more of super cena after that.
Dude have you seen hulk hogan stupid Roman reigns but yet super cena was just to much for you stop the BS
Dude your so ignorant Cena needed that win
Edge look like an alien on that thumbnail 😂
Man I remember this being the biggest opportinity of the 2010s to build the stars of the future but, oh no can't have that, because Cena Hogans his way to another win essentially derailing any monentum gained.
You mean Vince McMahon
People forget the nexus actually sucked member to member and wasn't much to do with them after winning this. Barrett was the only one with quality but he also got hurt a lot so nothing came from him
I disagree. I thought Gabriel was super talented and Tarver had room for potential as the secret weapon of The Nexus. Aside from maybe Slater, I'd definitely agree especially for Sheffield/Ryback and Young (since I felt he didn't fit in like the rest)
Id even wager and state that it would have been shocking if Cena got a DDT on the floor and was actually ruled out of the match and have Nexus rule Raw until a rematch takes place at Survivor series between Team Cena and Nexus in a traditional survivor series match .
Pretty much Cena was much more like hulk hogan than he thinks .
I don't know about that lol. Cool name 😎
are you guys ever gonna get new content? Or just rehash a dozen times? :S
That Nexus story had potential but yea Cena ruined something that had potential, Cena get “fired” then shows up next week in the crowd wearing his wrestling attire knee pads and all , like you got FIRED!! 😂😂 couldn’t they wait at least a month for him to make an appearance 🤷♂️
Did the same shit with CM punk after MITB too lmao.
It's interesting how the perception of Cena has changed over the years. He ruled WWE for years and around 2013 the voice of people disliking this guy for winning every match became loud enough on the internet (some people had been disliking him from even before this).
Over the next few years the dissent against him grew and grew on the internet, often as he was compared to wrestlers like Daniel Bryan and Zack Ryder and Wade Barrett.
Cena then left in 2017. Then the WWE Universe was able to see a contrast. WWE was now pushing Roman Reigns the same way they had been pushing John Cena 7 or 8 years earlier. The difference, the fans saw, was that Cena actually had talent unlike this guy. That's why when Cena returned in August 2017 they cheered for him!! But he wasn't there to stay as he found a better calling at Hollywood. Now people miss him and they're like "You know what? He wasn't that bad!"
Absolutely as much as I like Cena he definitely buried a young heel faction that could have done alot more
If they were that great why didn’t they succeed elsewhere ?
Being 100% honest, aside from Danielson do you really think any of those guys was going to achieve something someday? At the end of the day they all proved Cena right, no one did anything remarkably memorable or outstanding, sorry to say it but the nexus was a bunch of glorified job guys who just happened to be involved in a good story.
@@TheUltimateVoidBray Wyatt certainly achieved a lot. And Wade Barrett was heavily underutilized in the WWE.
@@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken bray was not part of the OG nexus or the match they're talking about here....what a way to expose your lack of knowledge on this...
@@TheUltimateVoid My bad, no need to be rude, bud. It’s just wrestling. And I haven’t watched for a long time. But even still, Justin Gabriel could’ve went places. He was solid.
My god… get to the question!!
Given what Jericho is doing in AEW with the younger talent, I find absolutely laughable that he had a problem with it
@andrewbowyer5043 he put over Jon Moxley, Adam Cole, MJF, Orange Cassidy, Will Osprey, etc.
I agree, but at least he did the right thing throughout his career in wwe, you can point to many feuds jericho should've won, but you cant point to one he should've lost
at some point in the last 5 years, Jericho changed. he was not this guy in 2010. he knew better.
@@princeleo8803None of those people are "Younger talent" except for MJF.
@@thelocalhero6036they're all younger than Jericho.
Nexus were created for Cena to look strong. They werent created to go over.
Thank you for saying this.
Of course Cena had no problem with this. He had b-level talent, but was being given everything the company had to offer. He’s not gonna question that, he’s just gonna keep accepting every push they gave him.
@@tyyrreekk9005because he sell more merchandise and bring more kids to the show kids means family
@@tyyrreekk9005 yup. We got a brief intro, then about a year as a heel, then his face turn, and more or less the same character for the next 20 years.
@@tyyrreekk9005Mostly adults watch wrestling so that’s why viewership dropped. Cena was all for the kids back then and still is his character was made that way, kids love him from make a wish donations to pulling up at shows wearing his wrist bands and shirts. Adults want edgy type guys on top that’s all it is they wanna see people doing crazy stuff like Austin and talking shit like Rock. This is the pg era that stuff can’t happen anymore.
@@tyyrreekk9005If you go back to Ruthless Aggression eraThuganomics Cena, adults loved him because of what he was saying and what he was doing it was brutal. WWE just went pg so he had to be way more chill and if I’m Cena and all the kids are behind me ofc I’m gonna wanna stay on their side because their gonna bug mom and dad all day long get me this Cena shirt, wrist band, action figure etc... that’s all bringing in tons of money see people don’t think that deep when they need too.
@@tyyrreekk9005 Roman didn’t stay on top of merch sells for 10 years selling out arenas and donating to make a wish. That stuff goes a long way I’m telling you it’s much deeper than what it seems.
What about the other watch of Cena vs Barrett, where Cena had to join the nexus. If they treated that like they treated Randy in the Wyatt family it could have been better
I still feel Cena was right personally. Cena is a megastar loved by kids. Not sure any of the Nexus were truly on his level.
This loss wouldn’t have hurt cena. You have to build new stars. That require putting over the new guys. Nexxus was gaining in popularity and could have been huge had that happened
If they had won the match, they could have been closer to his level. The entire point of the match was to get Nexus over in a big way. That's how pro wrestling works.
@@rabronin disagree. How many times have we seen in the past legends / big names put over guys who just dont get over to the level that the bookers want them to (Kozlov, Swagger, Del Rio etc). The fact is, none of the Nexus had "it", you could have them go clean over Cena several times and these guys were never going to be on his level. I dont get why people think otherwise personally.
In 2010 they were crying out for new main eventers so burying the Nexus like this doesn't make sense. Could have kept it going to Survivor Series or Wrestlemania 2011. Would have been far better than the main event of the Miz Vs John Cena.
that's why you build them up Cena was bullheaded and egoistic wanting to do things his way
I'm so glad Edge just no sold this dude's jabs at Bret Hart. This kid could've done his research to know that Bret was an important figure to Edge's start in WWE.
As a John Cena fan, this was definitely the biggest L John has had in the WWE. Nexus definitely should have went over in that match and then Cena would get his revenge at some point
Survivor Series 2010
Dude stop saying your a cena fan no your not y’all are fake hypocrites cena needed that win at summerslam 2010 he would have lost 9 straight summerslams if he didn’t get that win y’all try to bury John cena career.
Dude your not a Cena fan get out of here
@@JaquanWilliams-lf8de yh I am. don't question who I support or not
The only good way of looking at this is that it helped younger stars in the long run, like the Shield debut was only a couple years later so the burial of the Nexus was still fresh.
I can't remember exactly what match it was, might've been something related to CM Punk but I remember Seth talking about how originally they were set to lose one of their first matches as The Shield but they forced creative to change the outcome of the match because they didn't want what happened to Nexus happen to them.
Even Seth said that it was Vince McMahon who made the call & they told him to change it.
Really seems like they feared Nexus would outdraw Cena in the long-term.
Kinda the reason that hes been the guy to prevent any stars being grown since like 08, did it to umaga, ryder, rvd, rusev, bray. Anyone that could've outshined him. He made sure to stop that shit
What? This is what I call revisionist history. The Nexus were NEVER gonna be as big as the NWO in terms of drawing
@@KOHoxton So if he lost to all of them all of a sudden everything would change? 😂😂
@@jordannewsom3606 Ratings definitely would've gotten better. They wouldn't have had to been tarping off over half empty arenas at that point in time and we wouldn't have been starved of stars. So yes, goofy, things would have been better.
@@KOHoxton I highly doubt it
During that feud Cena was in full on WCW Hogan mode.
Lot of those Nexus guys could've gone on to become big stars with that rub, but now looking at it, in a pure wrestler standpoint. NONE of them are wrestling in WWE now. If Wade wasn't a commontator, NONE of em would be in WWE rn. Which is mad.
One moment doesn't destroy a wrestling career. Could the rub have helped? 100% yes but does that mean theses guys would have been stars? No
One thing that gets forgotten about the group is most of the guys moved on to bigger and better things. I would say Cena buried the story line not the guys as a whole.
@@channel_oshCena and Orton both were consistently in the way of getting Wade over. Cena being mega selfish his entire career that literally derailed double digits of guys that could've been great stars, you cant tell me that this match was the only way that cena fucked with his career. Wade himself still says this match was bullshit and cena gave a bullshit excuse.
@@KOHoxton Yeah maybe Barrett. All the other guys in the Nexus were complete shit
@@jordannewsom3606 Daniel Bryan, Ryback, Darren Young and Slater were all good and all got over after the fact, could've gotten literally any of them sooner than later if they had committed to Nexus winning, Justin Gabriel was pretty good too, just has no ability on the microphone.
@@KOHoxton They weren't good while they were in the Nexus because they never had character nor charisma. Ryback BECAME a character. Same with Slater and Young, one victory at Summerslam doesn't change everything all of a sudden.
1:22 what he says?? Barren gabriel?? Did he meant Justin Gabriel??
It was a bad decision, but it was Cena in his prime. It wasn’t like an old Hulk in 93’ not wanting to put Bret over.
Jericho and and EDGE made nexus look soooo good
Cena should have lost that match putting him in charge of how the match ended was extremely stupid don't build groups up just to destroy em
Edge was already on SmackDown when Juan Cena happened, so that checks out. :D
I might be in the minority, but Cena’s run in the nexus was very entertaining. Still feel like wade should’ve won the WWE Title even if he was a transitional champion for the miz to eventually pin
"That happened?! Nice." That one really got, ngl. 😄
I remember the TLC match vs wade Barrett. There was a spot where the chairs tied to a chain hanging from the ceiling. Cena basically pulled that chain on wade barrett and allowed all the chaires to fall on him. I think there may have been something for protection. But that felt like like the literal burial of hos career.
This was the peak of the Super Cena where everybody was dumping on him. Note that social media was not big at this time but you can really feel the hatred for Super Cena and how WWE was trying to shove this character down on everybody
I remember I wasnt that involved with wrestling back then. I was still a big fan but in a more "A kid who's just happy to cheer for most of the good guys an boo most of the bad guys". I didnt watch Summerslam live but I remember watching the results online felt strange, I checked it multiple times on different sites to see if it wasnt trolling. I loved the good guyd, but Nexus going over seemed like such an obvious thing to me even as a child.
I loved the Nexus. They felt fresh and BIG. Unlike anything we ever really had.
A shame they disbanded so soon.
Probably why I loved the Shield so much. THEY were the Nexus 2.0.
The Nexus gimmick sucked from the beginning. A couple of random guys (at that point) in random black and yellow shirts trying to tell you that they're the next big stars.
Cena's booking was unbearable at times, but the fact that he buried the Nexus is the one thing it's really not a shame about.
They were The Alliance 2.0 of 2010
Skip Sheffield was never seen again after this
SummerSlam @ Staples Center was super Cena at PEAK of his powers
R truth is fucking underrated
It’s the equivalent of the NWO losing the six man tag at Bash at the Beach 1996