2024 Volvo EX90 Hands On First Look! (AKA sort of the XC90 EV?)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Volvo's all-new and all-electric EC90 is almost here and it looks to be what so many have been waiting for: a 3-row European luxury SUV that just so happens to be electric. Rather than going for an egg-shaped body ala Tesla and Mercedes, Volvo has re-imagined the form of the popular XC90 as a boxy 7-seat EV people mover. Volvo is planning on two power levels: 408 HP and 517 and "around 300 miles of range" (likely with the lower power level. The interior is the height of Scandinavian chic and since it'll be built in South Carolina, the base versions are likely to qualify for at least some of the federal tax credit.
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Quick note: 516 HP is the European spec output, in the USA it's 496 HP.
Hi Alex, nice Volvo EX90 I like the way it looks but so far as far as specs go, Volvo hasn't carved them in stone. There's still a lot of X axis, y axis and Z values that Volvo hasn't solved for now and it's a MISTERY.
@@luiselapostolfeliz2421 EV horsepowers don't mean anything (let's just remember Tesla Model S Plaid 88th place in Nordschleife). Even according to the official specs it's slower than my 310 HP gas crossover. And even if it was quick indeed, we'll see them in the right lane between trucks anyway. Just like any other EV.
I wonder why it’s Detuned for the US? Hmmm perhaps they will upcharge as an OTA update?
@@melluzi That comparison doesn't make any sense. Your crossover doesn't have a battery, and more importantly, it's MUCH smaller than the EX90.
Thanks Alex! You are the First one to actually show the 3rd row space and also glad to see that vented and massage seats are available 👍🏼 hope 2nd row captain’s chair will follow.
This is what I was looking for as well! Alex is awesome (and glad Volvo let him get back there unlike everyone at CES)
They know how to build them in South Carolina. It looks super clean with tightly gapped body lines.This EV should be one of the leaders of its segment. Volvo makes great looking and driving, reliable cars. You can't go wrong ordering this one.
Those mechanized headlights are beautiful, but the only thing I can think about is a $5,000 - $10,000 invoice to replace them, in the event they get damaged or fail. As much as I like them, I'd probably order the trim with non-motorized versions and save the potential headache
That thing looks really handsome and very restrained yet elegant.
Those were the first words that came to mind. So unlike what Tesla and Mercedes are offering.
which reduces aerodynamic efficiency
@@nc3826 hmm not exactly. I mean look at the EQS from Mercedes. It’s relatively conservative although not as much as Volvo yet they have one of the most aerodynamic vehicles out there.
And yes for sure, you can definitely make the argument for your side. Good example being the BZ4X
lmao
EQS drag coefficient of 0.20
EX90 drag coefficient of 0.29
youTube wannabe experts SMH
@@nc3826
The EQS is a sedan, the EX90 an SUV. A Cd of 0.29 is very good for an SUV.
As a big admirer of the XC90 the EX90 left me cold, at first. Much had to do with the reviewers and the use of smartphones for cameras. Now, Alex you have done this new car justice with your excellent camera and knowledge and description of it. I’m starting to really like the EX90 even though it won’t be available with Napa leather.
I hope the amber turn signal comes to the US.
I don’t see why not. We have amber front turn signals in the US so rear shouldn’t be a DOT issue either. 🤞🏻
@@yhk1977 In the US, the current generation XC90 (SPA) does not have amber rear turn signals which makes me wonder if this new generation won't either.
@@cvnis957 but also in the US the newer model xc40 has rear amber turn signals. So there’s that.
@@yhk1977 Yeah, it seems odd to me that some models do and some don't. Especially considering the XC90 euro cars have amber in the rear, why downgrade the US cars?
@@cvnis957 exactly! I’m pretty confident ex90 will have amber turn signals. What I don’t like are US amber reflectors. 😝
Overall, this looks magnificent. Absolutely love the interior, with the beautiful cloth seats that look so inviting along with the wood trim and matte finishes everywhere. Very minimal piano black plastic crap. Hooray!
I'm sold with child bolster build in. That a genius move Volvo !
Yup. They are an innovative company and have been doing this for years 👍🏼 very child friendly.
Had two built in with my ‘06 xc70. I don’t know why every car doesn’t have them by now. Very useful. And my girls loved them. Made them feel like “big kids”.
I currently have a non-electrified XC90. I love everything about the EX90, except the price. I may just have to wait until EX60 when it comes out.
Once it's right, it's right. Lots of passengers compartment design was brought over from 1st Gen XC90.
Alex, thank you for also posting your full EV videos on the AoA channel.
For viewers, like me who want to watch all your content. But who do not want to inadvertently, watch it twice on different channels. Posting all of the content on this channel is best.
Spy pics show a 3 row version of the Cadillac Lyriq. Will be interesting to compare this to that upcoming car
Alex - I really enjoy your channels (all 3 of them!) and I think you do a great job of being hype-free and reasonably objective. That said, I have one burning question - do you really ever put a half gallon of milk in your center console? I have been driving for 40 years and I have never put milk (or any groceries for that matter) in my center console. I am trying to figure out who is the outlier here, you or me.😂 Love the work you do and thanks. I bought my EV based partially on your review (i4 eDrive 40) and absolutely love it. Incidentally, I drove to the mountains and back yesterday for a total of 263 miles round trip. No charging. I still have an indicated 47 miles of range left. 310 miles is almost 30 above the EPA estimate, so pretty happy there. The longer range is probably due to the 22.1 KW of power I regenerated along the way. Thanks again.
Finally the Volvo has designed a space to store the roller-styled cargo cover when it is not in use. Now, we just need to confirm if Volvo is finally willing to make the sun visor extendable.
I don’t need 3 rows but I do need the space that a large SUV provides. I’d take an EVan but those apparently don’t exist outside of commercial vehicles.
I am loving the style of this, Volvo is becoming my go to aspirational brand. Thank you for such a thorough deep dive on the car!
Alex, Why am I paying those sky high subscription fees to get access to the EV Buyers Guide channel when you are posting EV videos here? 🤨
Finally an SUV looking SUV!!!! This design is what people have been waiting for !!! Other companies have been building wierdo looking cars and calling them SUVs… This thing will sell !!!
I honestly hate it when companies just put everything on that big screen, I do really enjoy some of the features to be a regular buttons or nobs. In my opinion the fans and heating/AC temp are such an example.
Great, thorough review, as always! I am very interested in this car. The proportions are classy, functional, and timeless.
I am a bit confused about some of the design decisions, though: no overhead grab handles, no roller blinds for the rear door windows, no powered sun shade for the panoramic roof, too many functions on the left indicator stalk (lights, turn signals, wipers, etc.).
Hopefully, Volvo will address these issues for the production version.
I think Xe90 would've been a catchy name.
Finally someone cares to make a electric car for family people with 7 seats ❤❤❤
Take a look at Kia’s EV9 …
Alex, 800 volt architecture cuts in half the amperage.... increasing efficiency, reducing heat and resulting in increased battery longevity.... even if it only increases DC fast charging times marginally, for moderately sized battery packs...
14:56 omg thats bad....
Hopefully it's just an early prototype...
@@ContrarianDC_KAF it is. But it doesn't instill confidence when it runs worse than a budget phone...
Good luck, Googling what "prototype" means....
I just pre-ordered one! It will be a race between this car and a Kia EV9 to see which one is more practical for my family.
Also very curious about the Kia ev9.
Prices of cars are absolutely crazy. Some brands will fold if not careful.
Love the new styling, I just wonder why they didn’t have a sunroof that opens. Blows my mind why it isn’t included.
Looks like the best full size luxury SUV for the sensible / professional type
i dont even want to imagine what a minor accident on the front end will cost to replace, or get totalled out. those headlights are prob 5k each, and they will break.
that instrument cluster looks tiny and microscopic.
i really wish these car makers would stop with the glass roofs as standard equipment and make it totally optional. i like my car completely dark as much as possible.
this being built in a brand new factory in SC, i can imagine the reliability and build quality being potentially suspect for the first model runs.
Replacing a headlight assembly on my 2009 Mazda CX-9 is $2500. You would need a new auto loan refinance on this car. Fortunately, The car has so much tech you can’t wreck it.
My delayed R1S better hurry!!! This vehicle is what my family needs.
It's a very compelling car! Such a shame that it's 108k €:(
Perfect overview Alex! This looks to be a winner for Volvo. Solid style, great interior and battery tech, and built right here in the US, sign me up!
Lol
like it but as heavy as EV s are 3rows and 7 people range is going to go down ?
Excellent overview as usual, Alex. Love this Volvo, no gimmicky stuff, just an intelligent useful design. Now to come up with $80 grand!
Thanks Alex! Volvo going forward as well. For me (and kids) 3rd row with ventilation is really what needs.
will you be checking out the EX30 next week?
Dang after seeing this I'm not sure if I should go for the Cadillac Lyriq which is like 72k maxed out or this which may exceed 80k. Any thoughts anyone? I love how this car has all the vehicle to load functions, the design interior looks quite nice though not sure how about a center touch screen.
7 seats is not needed for me but I like how all seats seem usable. Think charging is better than the Lyriq but not sure.
I’m happy to see that the EX90 gets a much needed bump in range over the XC/C40 model(s). I found it strange that Volvo’s first two EVs had such drastically lower range when compared to the Polestar 2. Granted the XC/C40 models aren’t remotely as aerodynamic as the Polestar, but the Volvo’s getting ~50 miles less than the 2 is a bit ridiculous.
Well, part of the reason why there is poor range is because the platform was designed primarily for an ICE, with the ability to swap in EV parts.
A dedicated EV platform allows the manufacturer to use a nearly infinite amount of space to get the most range they can. You can only collect so much space in an ICE platform that was converted into an EV platform.
@@MDKN22 I thought so too, but I was curious, so I looked it up: all three of the XC40, C40, and 2 are built on the Volvo/Geely compact modular architecture (CMA) platform. Also, strangely enough, this new EX90 is not on a dedicated EV platform either. It is on Volvo’s SPA2 platform, which has been used for everything from the S60 to the XC90.
Would it be more or less confusing to call it XE 90?
It's a bit too confusing since it sounds alot like xc90 which is the gad powered version of this car
I love the cloth on these seats! I wish other MFGs would put weaved textiles like this in more vehicles! I would choose this over leather any day. It looks so clean and tranquil.
Alex - You‘re the BEST auto reviewer out there. Fast, thorough, and incredibly insightful. Two questions that are BIG misses in my current Volvo:
Will those front headrests be adjustable?
Will the visors be extendable or moveable to allow blocking sun across the ENTIRE side windows?
Current headrests make my head jut forward like a turtle - really uncomfortable and infuriatingly not adjustable.
Also really disappointing that on a $70k+ vehicle, the visor doesn’t even block sun across the whole side window.
No looking at cell phones but go ahead and interact with a huge touchscreen for every little function, ironic
Every other car brand has a touch screen bmw Mercedes Lexus Audi etc especially Cadillac
Ironic that while Volvo is adding more sensors, Tesla seems to be removing them (e.g. no USS on 3/Y's as of last year). Is Volvo planning to refresh their smaller models (e.g. the 40's series EVs) with the same tech and styling as this new EX90, for those who don't want a large 7 seater SUV?
How does it compare to the Rivian R1S. As that is the nearest competitor in terms of size and design.
10-80% in 30 minutes is about 150kw average... Not bad, though I thought Volvo would do better. Still, lovely wagon, I like
This has been the SUV on my wish list for a decade
All I want is a 400 mi range electric Honda Odyssey
I live in a Moderate Snowy/Rainy Spring area of the US and have to have a rear wiper to get the snow off and when i stop the rain that falls on the window. I cant wait for the defroster to melt snow. And i own a car that i notice when i drive in the rain, the rain doesn't really stay on the rear window if imoving .but when i stop i can barely see once the rain gets on the window. The wind wont get much of it off.
Alex, thank you for presenting that battery integration has pros and cons. Almost all channels only mention the pros.
But there are two types of integration. On the module to pack level, and on the cell to module level. It would be nice if you could differentiate them in the future.
If Volvo updated the XC90 with the interior / exterior of the EX90, I'd favor a PHEV XC90. But if they continue to build the current body style for the XC90, I'd probably make the jump to the EX90 because it's truly beautiful inside and out
I'm surprised they didn't go with an EX60 before they did this. I'd think that would be the more popular size. The XC 40 recharge is a bit small and not really very efficient. They will be building this in the USA but it's too expensive to qualify for the Tax credits.
Not EV enough supply to meet demand. EX60 would have even more demand which isn’t necessary for them right now
Volvo states it will be under $80k for some models. So it will qualify for EV credit, unless your joint income is over $300k.
Definitely an issue of volume ramp. They’ll sell fewer of these at a profit premium and work out their manufacturing processes for the more volume sellers.
Can I HAZ one?
If your AGI qualifies for the EV tax credit, you don’t make enough money to be buying such an expensive car. Catch 22. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
Can't imagine what the take rate will be on those wool seats. Most people buying this are likely to have a family, and nobody with a kid or a dog would ever want wool in a car.
Considering if they are stain resistant, it should be ok. Too bad they don’t offer ventilated seating for the wool. But I was told it does stay cooler than nordico.
Arguably, wool is more stain resistant than leather…
I was there yesterday :) obviously Alex got there first (no crowds)
Great mix between a conventional and a modern design without going over the top like other EVs which basically look like spaceships. I wish more manufacturers would take this approach.
Honestly I dig it. Thanks for doing such a comprehensive review, Alex.
Really excited for this one. My next vehicle will likely be either a base EX90 or a loaded Buzz. It will depend on the features. I’m not a fan of staggered tires as it makes rotating a pain. The LiDAR binnacle cries out for either a “TAXI” sticker or “NOT FOR HIRE”.
Also hope Volvo gets CarPlay sorted.
I am confused. They already have polestar 3 at the same price
adding red and gold, it likely turns out ironman's SUV
I wasn't a fan of this new design direction at first, but it's growing on me. I'm going to miss the current interior though, this new one simply isn't as warm or elegant.
The lights look good, but the front, where the grill used to be located, looks bad. To me, it is an eyesore
Can t wait to buy winter tires for that size 😆
Wow! 👀such a awesome car. Volvo is always something special
Became a typical Chinese brand!!
what is the range?
Move the rear wiper up. Put a donut spare in the Frunk.
that headlight is gonna be 5k to fix
I like the wheels. A modern version of the rims you would find on an older turbo model.
Timeline update? Is this car, from a software standpoint “vaporware”? A “moon shot”? Speaking of vapor, you did not show the wipers.. at the tip are tiny sprayers to intermittently (as they pass by) spray the LIDAR visor. HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT 😂
It's most likely going to be either rwd or awd
Just wish the color options were better. Can only choose black, white, dark gray, medium gray, silver gray, blue gray, or sand :( Would like to see a maroon or forest green option. Currently own a pine peak XC60 with the brown interior and love it. Lara Croft vibes. Would have liked to have traded in for an exciting color. Maroon with white accents sounds fun. Ted Baker vibes. Current options are boring and safe. A dark red with bronze gold would totally pull off an Iron Man look. Oh well. Still gonna get one. I’ll just die a little.
Industry first lidar?? Not really, check the Nio cars. They have it, and are on the streets ;)
This vehicle is beautiful! Great video Alex.
Alex, I have a deposit on one but also have one on a Rivian R1S. Right now these two are at the top of the list to replace my wife's aging MDX. Others on the short list are the BMW X7 and Marc GLS but neither of those have completely sold both of us. Hoping the EX90 is the goldilocks option for us
Rivian...? Have you heard about the vampire drain? Thank goodness i didn't buy a rivian.
@@msh8816 the battery drain while stationary? I've seen some anecdotal stories, but others saying theirs didn't have the issue. Will be curious to see what percentage have this issue. Always things to lookout for with startups
@Msh 88 the vampire drain has been fixed with a software update.
I put a deposit for R1S for launch version but eventually cancelled and bought a XC90 recharge. In terms of design, there is no comparison. Volvo cars have the look. Volvo is also more advanced in automation technology. Another big factor is service. For Ravian, service might be a challenge because of limited number of dealers.
A 111 Kw hour battery for 300 miles? That’s pretty crappy efficiency. Tesla Model Y has 330 mile range with a 75 Kw hour battery. Thirty percent less. Sad for a company like Volvo.
And the waiting time would be just 10,000 years, that's why I bought a Tesla(waiting time was 10 days) I was fed up with waiting time on Rav4 Prime(3 years and dealer incompetency in ordering and changing the order based on perception of tax breaks which threw me way back in the line also not sure how much the dealer would have marked it up, since he did not mention the final price while ordering and waiting with 1k deposit, which I also had a hard time getting it back after I bought a Tesla).
The interior, same as that of Tesla, is incredibly lazy design. Just one big screen in the middle and one small screen as your dashboard. Where's the beauty of that?? None of the screens are blent in with the surroundings. Just very lazy, ugly design. Look at how beautiful the German cars are and you'll know why Volvo don't sell.
Take the mirrors away if there are cameras in place. Bring on the Precept, this coming from a xc90 owner (19…22 currently). How about bolts of lightning coming from Thor’s hammers being an EV and all.
Love the material combination of the seats, but I thought wool is not vegan
Since the sheep doesn't have to be killed to make wool it qualifies.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide not according to PETA
"there is one exception on ethical grounds: dead wool" lmao....
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Not vegan in the truest sense.
Yeah, wool is def not vegan. Vegan implies no animal products whatsoever. For instance, honey is also not vegan. The fake leather option is likely the vegan one.
Separate modules is the way to go!. And it would give EV’s a better reputation as you could get away from the negative press of having to replace an entire $15,000 battery pack.
The sensor on the roof makes the car look like a taxi. lol
First lidar in the industry??? Hellooo, Nio has been delivering cars with Lidar for a whole year now. I got one in norway since November :))) … Volvo seems to have stolen the design from Nio
can 2nd row fold flat?
Yes it power folding up and down
@@Quinton0520 It needs to fold down flat the second row, so that I can sit in the back and put my legs up on the back of the second row chairs flat
"Nice vegan friendly material, breathable design , bluh bluh bluh".
to me, It's called "cloth trim " . ...
amazing...class...practicality..
Grace ...power...❤
For the price I will pay out the door on one of these, I might as well continue riding gas engines. Its not worth it for me, makes no sense. Why? cause my next door neighbor has one? Where is the savings? How much more am I going to save?
The EX90 needs efficient, clean petrol & Diesel versions, not just EV only. Electric is useless for me as are the low profile tyes, big wheels.
It would good to know if it has the ability to reverse up to a trailer hitch automatically, it's really helpful. Also, hope they can increase the towing weight limits.
I would love to see EX60.
I can see that external sensor getting damaged or bumped by a tree branch, then what? Why not leave behind the glass?
Amber for turn signals is the way to go. I don’t understand why the US doesn’t require them.
How much would the fake leather last realistically? I know other fake leather products start to disintegrate.
I like leather seats and as long as folks eat beef, there will be leather anyway.. fabric in a car with kids is just not ideal.. less plastic would also be nice..
I can only imagine the issues with this vehicle. Hopefully you got good insurance
Mid 2024 to mid 2025 it feels like majority of brand new cars that you see on the rd will be electric
Wow! This is the best EX90 review I’ve watched. (I’ve watched quite a few)
Looks great but Volvo was NEVER manly if you talk about the archetype 😂
I wish Tesla had this Sensor Suite.or just came with the LIDAR.
Strange you mention competitors like Mercedes and BMW, but forgot to compare it with the much cheaper Kia EV9, which you should based on type, size and technology.
The independent cross shop data we’ve seen indicates that there is little to no cross shopping between Kia and Volvo. We see similar rates as Telluride vs XC90, it’s not zero, but it’s well below every other luxury brand.