9 Obscure and Bad Computer Arcade Game Ports...and 1 Good One | Kim Justice
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- Today we're looking at some rather obscure and bad ports of arcade and console games to various computers like the Spectrum, C64, Amiga and Amstrad! There's the likes of Street Fighter, Chase H.Q., Out Run, and even Ninja Gaiden to be found here, as well as plenty more. And there's also a pretty decent port you may not know to offset things a bit. Enjoy!
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I gotta say that, as a yank, I really love your videos. I never got to experience microcomputers as I’m only 15. Keep up the amazing work!
I'm surprised to see another young person here! I love my dad's spectrum, it's like looking back in time!
I had Outrun on the Amstrad and remember clearly how my heart sank when I loaded it up. After the initial shock there was this embarrassing phase when I tried to convince myself that I could maybe enjoy this game. So, I put on my Walkman and listened the cassette and pretended I was playing the arcade game I loved so much. It was a pathetic sight. I don’t think I ever felt so low when playing a video game.
My exact train of thought: "Ha, ha...those poor suckers with that terrible C64 port of Double Dragon. Wait, I remember that bit from the note from the developers about the space in the character sprites. Oh, god...I WAS one of those poor suckers, and I'd just blocked it from my mind!"
Awww, I loved Frank Bruno's Boxing back in the day, seemed to be so much better back then.
Man, the Simpsons arcade game on the C64 is absolutely amazing. The tricks they used to get as much of the content from the arcade on the then long-in-the-tooth computer were just genius. I have an entire playthrough of the game on my channel just because I wanted to show all the content.
Oh god, I remember playing Frank Bruno's Boxing and Chase HQ on C64. I didn't realise FB's Boxing was a ripoff of Punch-Out until I got into collecting years later.
Made you the man you are today........i played both also......Frank Brono was OK.....Harry
@@ctbullett300 True. I played some right weird stuff compared to this back in my youth. Sheep In Space comes to mind.
@@Tubeite You look great as tomb raider BTW
@@ctbullett300 Thanks. I originally thought of cosplaying as Nathan Drake, but then it just happened to be the 20th anniversary of Tomb Raider in October 2016 so I went as Lara Croft instead.
OutRun for the C64 had a pretty crazy development history involving a toxic stage dad more-or-less forcing his son to work on the port.
Didn't his dad draw in Ferrari sprite also
Yeah, i've heard about that. Some kid who was 17. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-10-13-the-boy-behind-the-biggest-coin-op-conversion-of-the-80s
oh man, I feel bad for liking the c64 version of double dragon when I was a kid, starting to look at the rest of my life choices now!
Double Dragon on the C64, pure arse paper. The port of Double Dragon 2 on the same micro, fantastic! 👍🏻
Outrun came packed in with my Atari ST. It wasn't until I played the arcade version that I realized how pants the port was.
That being said, there's a home brewer currently doing a mod / fix for the ST port which uses overhauled and faster graphics routines via the STE's blitter and the original arcade assets. Also the David Whitaker chiptunes of Splash Wave and Magical Sound Shower were pretty cool.
Who doesn't remember the most badass Street Fighter character ever? Joe.
Ah, Human Killing Machine - the moment 8-bit gaming finally gave you the chance to kick a badly animated dog to death.
One that I would put in the Excellent category is Motos, which strangely got ports to the 3 main 8-bits. Sure it's a Namco game, but I'd definitely call it one of the more obscure Namco games of the era and on the surface it isn't something that looks like it would be easy to throw together any kind of sales pitch for. The CPC version however is an excellent adaptation and really shines on the platform.
I honestly feel like I grew up with you, Speccy versions of Chase H.Q and all. I had Frank Brunos boxing too, man such nostalgia and joy you give me, thank you lots!
Love the length and details of this video! Thanks a bunch for uploading it!
3:28 wow I thought the Simpsons had gone all Game of Thrones for a second there.
Quality editorial work like this makes me reconsider subscribing.
Keep it up. 👍
Love your work Kim. Esp your intro theme. Reminds me of being a kid in the 80s
Can confirm that original sf on Amiga is also absolute balls. I couldn’t EVER pull off hadokens. It’s like the move wasn’t even included.
Edited to say magical sound shower is still bloody awesome and STUN runner was one of my favourite arcade games of that year. I played it in an arcade in Boscombe I think.
As a kid, I honestly thought nintendo ripped off Frank Bruno
I love The Simpsons Arcade game, The only Simpsons game i can beat
I was UTTERLY devestated when I loaded SF1 up on my Atari ST at the time, after seeing the screenshots of the ST version in the mags and back of the ZX Spectrum box, I sold my spectrum and saved up for my ST (later sold for an Amiga which I still have) to have what I thought was almost arcade perfect looking version of a game I utterly loved in the arcades,...we had the 6-button version in our arcades,...I was shocked to see what was playing in front of my eyes,...I was looking round to see if someone was having a huge joke on me, but nope they wern't, I very quickly realised once again U.S. Gold screwed us kids out of our money by coughing up an utterly crud conversion via Tiertex.
These bastards should have been taken to court many times for their disgraceful conversions, fake screenshots (false advertisement) and either fined or forced to redo them,...or both!
All versions of SF1 are longplayed on my channel including the Dos version,...yes I completed that too!
SF 2 was sadly no better!
hahaha i follow you and I know how much you hate Tiertex (as I do!)
"These bastards should have been taken to court many times for their disgraceful conversions" I AGREE
Why not save up for a SNES or MegaDrive? Plus demanding a defunct business be bought to justice decades later is kind-of childish.
@@Clay3613 Tiertex (who converted SF1 and all the other shite they churned out) are not defunct, they are shockingly still in business today creating games for mobile phones.
@@Clay3613 tiertex is still on business my friend.... btw snes? megadrive? what for? you have mame emulators and he knows it very well .
I actually like the Ninja Gaiden arcade game from 1988. It's a pretty fun beat-em-up game with cool music and nice, colorful graphics.
Why do I always find a new Kim video when I’m just about to go to sleep? Guess I’m going to tired at work again 😆
I had Frank Bruno’s boxing. C64 controls were a mix of keyboard and joystick. Left and right on joystick made you dodge left and right. Up and down on joystick moved your gloves between head and body shots. On the keyboard 1 was left jab, 2 was right jab and space was power punch or haymaker whatever you want to call it.
Loving these vids ! Glad I got Ashen's terrible old games books - they brought me here :)
Great video! Very obscure stuff. There is no other coverage on RUclips of games like this. 🦄🦄🦄
I had no idea simpsons arcade was on the c64.
I remember an ad for the home port in Compute! magazine, but no stores had a copy.
I just finished making a video for Lemon Amiga about the top worst NES conversions, and Ninja Gaiden 2 was virtually top of my list as well.
that's because it reused the engine of the original test drive. Unlimmeted software got into some legal hot water over this, but they ultimately won since they reused their own code.
The Simpsons on the C64 looks amazing! I remember getting Double Dragon for the system years ago, and it had ugly lines through all of the characters because it couldn't combine sprites.
Ah, you talked about that one too! I thought the music was pretty good.
Mentioning GameTek will always make me remember my favorite game growing up: Nomad (published in 1993 by them for DOS). Maybe someday you'll mention them in a video. Either a retrospective on GameTek, or maybe a video about de-licensed games (or whatever you call a game that was originally conceived as a licensed game, but the license was dropped before release--Nomad was originally going to be a game branded around Disney's Space Mountain ride). I'm sure there are a few interesting de-licensed games to mention.
Chase HQ on the C64 is _interesting_ - it was converted by Teque, who also did the Amiga/ST ports (and obviously converted some of the sprites over in the process). But considering they also did a decent job with Continential Circus, I can't help but wonder what kind of restricted timeline they were on to get it out the door, which is why they ported those Spectrum routines and made a mess of it.
Double Dragon is honestly a sad, sad case - it only came out in the last few years it was a 6 week rush job by some darn talented coders (Ash & Dave, who wisely asked to not be credited). It's trash, but you gotta feel for 'em when the deck is stacked against them so much. On the upside, the title tune is decent, but when you've got access to Maniacs of Noise, that shouldn't be a surprise...
Good stuff Kim, keep it up
Great video Kim. I think Power Drift would have been a more obscure arcade port over Outrun & Chase HQ tho that port was good from what i remember of it. Speaking of Chase HQ, i was gutted at the C64 version. It blew me away as a nipper in the arcade & loved playing it on my cousins Amstrad so i got it for my C64, i couldn't believe what i was seeing.
I like how Thomas, in "Kung-Fu Master" for the C64, melts into the ground when he dies -- very honorable. All joking aside, the NES port was fantastic. It's still one of my favorite video games of all time.
Wow, this video is basically my childhood. I finished Double Dragon on C64 up late one night sneakily playing when I shouldn't be. Right after I beat the final boss the game crashed and played a loud digitally distorted sound effect and the jump scare has stuck with me for life. Bruno's boxing on C64 had a cassette for each opponent! Chase HQ was soooo disappointing at the time. I started to learn arcade ports were garbage. You could probably do a good video on crappy games based on movies on early computers. I had a copy of Big Trouble in Little China on C64 and that was soul destorying.
I remember a strange Street Fighter 2 for PC. It was not the "official" port (I had it time later) but I remember there were txt files with .... the shape of characters, collision and controls where bad .... I don't remember what it was exactly
Thanks for the shout-out, Kim!
I had "Frank Bruno's Boxing" on the Commodore C16 - was surprisingly good for the C16.
Not sure they're at all obscure, but another great vid nonetheless! It brought back the despair felt when I spent my hard earned pocket money on Kung Fu Master on the Speccy, loading it up to discover what a complete pile of s**e I had just bought
Great video kim. Excellent. 👍
I’m surprised that anyone attempted to bring STUN Runner to the home computers. It just wasn’t possible to work out. The Atari Lynx, of course, has its excellent translation by D. Scott Williamson, who also wrote the Lynx versions of Roadblasters and Toki. Even then, the Lynx faked the visuals with 2D sprites instead of polygons. That said, it’s highly impressive for its time and leagues ahead of any system from 1991.
Hey same guy who made Mohawk and Headphone Jack. Yeah, he's quite the genius programmer
You can get a great version of STUN Runner in the home, Atari Lynx has an amazing version
Holy cow I admit I am very under qualified for computer science and history as I only look to it for bad old games (especially fighting game ports) but that c64 simpsons is instantly astounding!! I was very impressed as I had never even imagined it!!
Oh also I wanted to mention that in 2014/2015 (not anymore I think) The ORIGINAL arcade version was for sale on popular first party marketplaces around the time the initial American release of 'Jurassic World' was released
Oh boy I so remember buying the C64 Double Dragon. The box was just gorgeous piece of art. Then I loaded it, waited and waited (the c-casette version) and then I was so disappointed. :) Generally there were a lot of arcade ports for the C64, which were super fast put together cash grabs. Luckily there were also many great ports, like The New Zeland Story, Bubble Bobble, Rainbow Islands, Commando, Ikari Warriors (not the US version!), Marble Madness, Turbo Outrun, Space Harrier and Gauntlet, just to name a few.
The Atari Lynx edition of S.T.U.N. Runner was a very impressive port of the arcade game. It's one of the best games on the Lynx even.
Taste is subjective and all that, but The Simpsons isn't even Konami's best beat em up. Violent Storm is where it's at Kim.
Chase HQ on the C64 is simply a recompiled copy of the Tiger LCD version.
Me and my friends bought an Amiga 500 just so that we could play Shadow Warriors/Ninja Gaiden on it. LOL
We thought it was great, it was 2 player coop and had an awesome soundtrack by David Whittaker. The intro sequence was also masterful recreated on the Amiga. Shame you didn't like it because we did and got years of fun out of it.
I will never understand how you guys put up with having only one button on your controllers for so long. I can't imagine trying to play Ninja Gaiden that way, let alone a janky as hell computer port of it!
But when it comes to janky NES-to-computer ports, none compares to the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game. I'd like to see you cover that. 👍
@19:27: Ack, the fire breathing duck from Adventure is back! RUN!!!
I'm kind of freaked out right now. For a long time I had the Terminator 2 Theme as the ringtone on my phone. I decided to change it on November 29 to the Chase HQ Main Theme for ZX Spectrum.
Acclaim held all the rights to home console ports of the Simpsons that's why Konami could only do Arcade and home computer ports.
Trash ass Acclaim!!! They also fucked up the NBA jam franchise
Not only that, but they also held the rights to European home computer games. That's why, if you have noticed, both the MS DOS and C64 version were only released in North America and there aren't ZX Spectrum and Amstrad CPC versions. In fact, the C64 version doesn't work in PAL machines.
Also, an Amiga version was planned but since that machine was pretty much dead in the US and they had already fucked it up with the Amiga Castlevania, they cancelled that version alongside the Amiga version of Metal Gear.
@@genstarmkg5321 I'll take your word on that man, other than the C64 I don't know much about the home computer stuff from back in the day. Hell, I didn't even know about the ZX Spectrum till a couple years ago😁
I played Double Dragon on the Spectrum tonnes, even though I know it was really slow. I then got the Megadrive version, from Ballistic. That was worse. :(
I played the speccy DD and thought it was great fun. I was about 8 at the time, but even now I still don't think it's a bad game, as far as brawlers on the speccy go. It's no Renegade but it's not bad.
@@nosferadu yeah, it was fun. I used to play 2 player with my dad. Renegade would hardly ever load on my Spectrum. Very frustrating.
@@nosferadu The thing that is most irritating about the Spectrum version of _Double Dragon_ is that, at the start of level 5-1 (two of the levels were split into two separate multiloads) you absolutely must make it your first priority to scroll the screen fully downwards before getting it to scroll right; if you did not do this then the game would crash.
Outrun was fantastic on C64 , turbo outrun also .
Cool vid as always. I was laughing as while you are 100% right I remember thinking Double Dragon on the ST was one of the best things ever as a kid......until I played it in the arcade! A good shout for the topic of the vid would also be Street Fighter 2 also on the ST. Tbf, my hopes weren't high - The ST was basically dead at the time, my expectations were tempered by that, and I was after getting a Mega Drive anyway (SF might have been the last game I got for my ST actually)......but good god, even accounting for that it was rather shit. I only got it to work a couple of times (My ST was very old and had taken some welly) but even when it did work it was a) choppy as hell and b) on a joystick......even had t been silky smooth SF 2 is not a game to play on a Joystick!
I bought Kung Fu Master for the Spectrum. Those wounds still run deep.
Never really liked that game, always found it very repetitive. It's got some weird tie-ins, Jackie Chan movie Wheels on Meals that's called Spartan X in Japan, there was a Spartan X comic book (that has nothing to do with the game or movie).
whoa, and here everyone thought the Simpsons arcade game didnt get a port.
Gotta watch James and Mikes stuff. They've mentioned it a few times
@@adamlucas2203 yes but the problem is with that you have to watch James and Mike stuff
I love James. I mean, Mike certainly leaves alot to be desired. I can agree there lol. He's grown a bit on me I guess though
I'm fairly certain the lack of Simpsons arcade ports on the consoles was indeed a licensing issue. Acclaim held the rights to publish games on consoles (in the US, at least; not sure about across the pond), but computer game rights were a separate license and not always picked up by the same company as the console rights.
Once again, Thank you!
I've rarely seen an Amstrad CPC game going downhill so fast after the loading screen as Out Run did. Luckily I didn't buy it, a friend from my brother did. It made Enduro Racer look like a masterpiece. At least Enduro Racer had an engine noise and a road that looked like it was moving forward.
At 4:26 why does Jimmy have his eyes closed? I actually still remember that cover when it came out, God I'm old!
Literally laughed out loud at Kung Fu Master on the spectrum. Imagine being a kid saving up ten quid to buy this then loading up that though.
Best thing is somebody recently did a better home conversion for the speccy, it was very good, it wasn't called kung fu master but is exactly the same game
@@memermetalthemiddleagedaut99 Agreed. The remake is called Mister Kung Fu and is a superb port.
The highly trained Kung fu folk seem to walk as if they all have arthritis
The slow speed almost make me wonder if it was written in BASIC?!
Yep.... I was an unfortunate kid who spent his birthday money on kung fu master... God awful... it wasn't long after buying it I went into the dark side and went into piracy on TDK 90 tapes. Well... until the turbo loaders came out and my tape to tape method was beaten 😊
brilliant video . thanks
Actually the CPC disk release of Double Dragon was great.
As for the Chase H.Q yes, the 6502 can't handle roads like a Z80.
yes unlike what kim said the 64 graphics hardware is of no real use here
VERY good Outrun Europia on the Acorn Archimedes!
Another cracking video
I will always have a soft spot for the C64 version of Out Run, Double Dragon not so much.
Was the Ninja Gaiden 2 game run in ntsc or pal? I have a feeling things like that weren't taken into account. Many Amiga to Genesis ports in the US sure as hell weren't.
I knew about C64 Simpson’s but not Amiga Ninja Gaiden. Regarding your speculation on why the C64 port of Chase HQ was so bad, I wouldn’t have thought it was due to diminishing interest in the C64 from Ocean at the time, since it was no less supported than other platform (with notable games such as Batman the Movie and Midnight Resistance). I think it’s more a case of there being more focus on the Z80 ports (especially as they were better at 3D than the C64) and the poor old 64 was an afterthought and basically got sloppy seconds (or thirds in this case). Either way, it was an insulting port.
For the original Street Fighter, I have to say I kinda like the USA version on the C64. I got a retail boxed copy of it when it was new and I didn't even realize it had special moves in it until years later, after Street Fighter II hit the arcades. One day I went home and loaded it up to try some stuff and see if fireballs, hurricane kicks and dragon punches were in the game and was shocked to find out they were! They made the game super easy after that, but still cool. I also had the Amiga version which was, of course, a steaming pile of crap.
Since it was mentioned below, I do have a soft spot for C64 Outrun, it was the first version of that game I every played. Great music despite missing Passing Breeze.
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great as always.
I love you, Kim
The DOS version of Double Dragon II didn't have any credits. You got 3 lives, that's it. As a result it was damn near impossible.
There were loads of bugs too. The worst was that Abobo could grab you from miles away, or on the last stage from off screen below you. One grab practically killed you.
No music either.
Haha, I've got a copy of Frank Bruno's Boxing for the ZX Spectrum on the shelf next to me here. It's as bad as you say :)
I have fond childhood memories of the DOS version of The Simpsons, inferior as it may be. Me and a friend huddled over one keyboard, each mashing keys on his respective end...
Violent Storm is clearly Konami's best beat em up.
Intro tune - chase hq dodgy micro computer conversions....er....probably speccy which actually wasnt that bad considering... in fact most quote it as the 'best' conversion with regards to limitations etc.... oh classic ms justice right here!
I needed a Kim Justice game channel, there was a Z X Spectrum Street Fighter II? Jeez I thought the Fujitsu FM Towns Marty was the craziest one; Unless Fighting Street for the NEC Turbo Grafx counts.
@ 11:25 is that the artwork from the proposed spin off of Magnum P.I and Miami Vice (Tubbs)?
Ninja Gaiden 2 also had an MS-DOS version. It's basically the same as the Amiga version.
c64 port of golden axe should be in the list, save it for the amazing ost rendition of course :D
I am pretty sure stun runner would of run on the psone... Some of the 3d games of that console of old run pretty well... Wipe out, Ridge Racer and Destruction Derby to name a few... Even sonic 2 on the mega drive managed a half decent 3d side stage. Love your content though keep it up
A little correction, the Simpsons Aracde was ported to Xbox Live and Playstation Network, although you're right that there were no home console ports at the time.
I would've liked to hear some of that awful music... Still, interesting vid.
I had every game on the list on C64 and Amigia then later on...
I'm so sorry for you for having to experience these (except the simpons arcade game port)
Frank Bruno's Boxing was an amazing attempt at bringing PunchOut to the Spectrum... I'll fight anyone who disagrees... put em up ! 🥊
Whoa!!! Ninja Gaiden in the arcade is crap? Absolutely not. That was one of my favorite arcade games of the era! Even the continue screen was amazing! I still remember that blade coming down on the hero as the countdown ticked down.
There was another unofficial spanish conversion of Punch Out! for the Spectrum called "Rocky" (yeah, Dinamic Software had no shame). It was even sold in the UK by Gremlin as "Rocco", and ported to the Amstrad CPC and MSX. Boxer graphics are far better than Frank Bruno's, but gameplay is incredibly even worse.
Oh my word. Frank Bruno's boxing on the C64. I could never get past the 2nd guy 🤔
15:33 dracula dungeon dance party??! What in the world?!?
awesome! awesome! Wait, how was it common in the Amiga to have to choose between music or sfx?
It was common, but it was a sign of a poorly coded game, or dare I say it *whispers* an ST conversion
I thought that as well, I seem to remember it was more common on the Atari ST
Sadly quite common but as MarJay rightly says its a sign of bad or probably more accurately lazy programming as the Amiga was more than capable of doing music and sfx together as games like the Turrican series or Ruff N, Tumble can testify.
Simpsons arcade was release on both Xbox Live and PSNetwork... no longer an offering, but at a recent ish time it surely was.
I had the SF DOS game and I don't think I was ever able to defeat a single enemy. I think I was able to throw a fireball once.
These are some of the best memories of my childhood, I know they were shit, but nostalgia is a bitch.
I misread this as bad arcade games... No-one talks about arcade games that were actually bad was looking forward to it...
I'm surprised you didn't mention the C64 port of Street Fighter 2. Bloody horrendous.
I had the Amiga versions of Double Dragon & Outrun.. I was disappointed they apparently weren’t the best versions but I still played them for whatever reason..
Agreed Frank Bruno deserved a better game even though he didn’t win the heavyweight championship until the 90’s..
Have to disagree about Frank Bruno's boxing, well on the CPC at least. Great conversion rip-off of a great arcade game and the keyboard controls for low blows and high blows just felt so intuitive! Also just the right difficulty level although Peter Perfect was a pain in the arse!!