The Story and Games of System-3, Part 1 - The C64 feat. The Last Ninja, IK+ and Myth | Kim Justice

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  • @Kim_Justice
    @Kim_Justice  5 лет назад +39

    Thanks for watching :) what are your favourite games and memories from the almighty System-3's 8-bit years?

    • @StRoRo
      @StRoRo 5 лет назад +1

      Last Ninja 2 is one of my all time fav games and one of the best sound tracks. But be careful, the slightest hint of LN2 music is being copyright claimed.

    • @ClayMann
      @ClayMann 5 лет назад +1

      I know it might seem a bit trivial but for me its that iconic image of the stylized Ninja's eyes. I love it even more today now I'm well aware of the limitations of the time. Even though its just a pair of eyes, it reached across decades and immediately hit me. I'd love a poster framed of that.

    • @aidandegg4176
      @aidandegg4176 5 лет назад

      Great vid. I'd have to say Last Ninja. I never had a C64 but my mate did and I always enjoyed having a go o it whenever I went round. I also like IK+ and indeed a couple f others on this list. System 3 were clearly a remarkable company - looking forward to part 2

    • @GeordieMarv
      @GeordieMarv 5 лет назад

      The Last Ninja series and IK+. Great vid as usual Kim.

    • @evilubuntu9001
      @evilubuntu9001 5 лет назад

      I loved IK (still do) but I hated the Last Ninja games. I found them unplayable when I was a child due to the controls. My ninja would always get beat up after he turned his back on the enemy. And I could never jump on the platforms. I tried playing them again and they still suck. I think the fond memories are just nostalgia.

  • @BackyardEpicMovies
    @BackyardEpicMovies 5 лет назад +22

    I was addicted to anything ninja related back in the 80's. The Last Ninja was my jam.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 5 лет назад +2

      B.E.Movies Hell ya Sho Kosugi is the man! Last Ninja was my ultimate C64 game.. The music was just phenomenal.. Guess they kinda continued that series later on under the name Tenchu

    • @QJ89
      @QJ89 4 года назад +1

      The idea that a ninja could be killed by a swarm of bees chasing after him is just too funny.

    • @squeekeyhoodrattattoo8781
      @squeekeyhoodrattattoo8781 4 года назад +1

      And the film was cool

  • @ProgrammedForDamage
    @ProgrammedForDamage 5 лет назад +4

    The Last Ninja and IK+ are amongst my favourite games of all time.

  • @TheRoberino2001
    @TheRoberino2001 5 лет назад +1

    I had a late model C64 that came with Terminator 2 on tape and a cartridge with Fiendish Freddie, International Soccer, Flimbo's Quest and Klax. Flimbo's Quest was by far my favourite. I played it on emulation recently and was able to complete it simply because I didn't have to use a joystick any more! Great game and one I remember with fondness.

  • @chrishopkins209
    @chrishopkins209 5 лет назад +6

    Systems 3 and Thalamus were a guarantee of quality. I remember seeing Last Ninja on a C64 in 87 and being blown away and having to get one!

  • @CorrezZio
    @CorrezZio 5 лет назад +10

    "The crime is life and the sentence is death" pretty nice writing there! Good vid!

    • @Kim_Justice
      @Kim_Justice  5 лет назад +8

      Judge Death from 2000AD quote :)

  • @tubey84
    @tubey84 5 лет назад +2

    Wow... a MASSIVE thank you Kim! Flimbo's Quest has been a game wriggling around in the recesses of my mind for a good 10 years and I could never remember the name of it or what I played it on!
    The relief in now knowing is indescribable!!!!

  • @HertzBlut
    @HertzBlut 5 лет назад +2

    Your intro is still one of the abslolute best on RUclips. I just fills me with all that nostalgia.

  • @duffman18
    @duffman18 5 лет назад +16

    Kim your videos are always amazing. You talk about games and systems that nobody else does and you do it so well, you're a great historian
    By the way what's your intro music from? I love it. It sounds like an old Channel 4 jingle or something

    • @RoyBatty16
      @RoyBatty16 5 лет назад +1

      I think its an old video ident from the VHS days. Thorn EMI maybe?

    • @ZiggySTARDUST72
      @ZiggySTARDUST72 5 лет назад +3

      It's the BBC VHS ident from the early 80s, 2 mins 30 secs into this ruclips.net/video/uKDtEUDIf8I/видео.html

  • @leegsy
    @leegsy 5 лет назад +5

    Was just about to go out on some errands but I think I'll wait for an hour while I watch this.
    Thanks Kim!

  • @Midekai
    @Midekai 5 лет назад

    The amount of research in these documentaries are astonishing. Huge support to you KJ.

  • @williamwright9079
    @williamwright9079 4 года назад +2

    IK+ just amazing ! The memories!!!
    Thanks Kim!

  • @ModernVintageGamer
    @ModernVintageGamer 5 лет назад +6

    ok Kim , you win. subbed to your Patreon.

  • @swordghoti
    @swordghoti 5 лет назад +1

    Great overview of the 8 bit masters! So pleased to see Myth get its dues, my fave Speccy game of all time. I couldn't believe how good it was when I first played it, simply class.

  • @cloudtx
    @cloudtx 5 лет назад +1

    These games and this console were way before my time but I still find them interesting. In particular that Last Ninja game still looks good and fun to play. I've always been a fan to the Samurai/Ninja aesthetic ever since I played Tenchu as a kid on the PlayStation.

  • @mightycaine8254
    @mightycaine8254 5 лет назад

    lost half my pre teens playing IK. forgot all about last ninja until watching this. cheers Kim. oh the memories.

  • @inphanta
    @inphanta 5 лет назад +2

    As a C64 guy, this video warmed my heart. 😊

  • @marcinagy6468
    @marcinagy6468 5 лет назад +2

    Part 1 - and it's already an hour long. I love this channel so much

  • @ukcroupier
    @ukcroupier 5 лет назад

    Really appreciate the time and effort you put into these longform videos. It's so nice to relax into a decent documentary without it ending after 10 minutes.

  • @Chilliconcarnage
    @Chilliconcarnage 5 лет назад +1

    An early Christmas present for me this. Wonderful times. Thanks for putting this together, Kim! Awesome job.

  • @nebularain3338
    @nebularain3338 4 года назад

    Superb video as always. I think the Last Ninja series deserves its own standalone video(s) though. There's so much juicy stuff there!

  • @firedamaged
    @firedamaged 5 лет назад +1

    Oh man. The last ninja 2 was so good. I had the giant box complete with rubber star that I did indeed injure a friend with. I think it also came with a big poster.

  • @Lucasrainford
    @Lucasrainford 5 лет назад +1

    Another very interesting and brilliantly presented and well researched bit of gaming history. Looking forward to ep2, nice one Kim :)

  • @oxogood9018
    @oxogood9018 5 лет назад

    System 3 the company that made my fave c64 platformer Flimbos Quest,it blew my mind at the time with how the presentation of the game looked so smooth/crisp.

  • @erlendht
    @erlendht 5 лет назад +2

    Whenever my brother got a stack of new (pirated) floppies from his friends I was always looking out for that System 3 logo when booting up a game for the first time. Was always a good sign! :D

  • @JDDL2011
    @JDDL2011 5 лет назад

    I found your videos the other day and loving the history for older consoles + games I never played

  • @arcadely
    @arcadely 5 лет назад

    Great video. I'd never heard of Myth before because I'd saved from my paper round up for an Amiga that, with some help from my parents and selling my C64 to help raise funds, I got for Christmas in 1990, so I was out of the 8-bit world, but it looks fantastic. Will have to try it out on emulators (and possibly, in the near future, on real hardware). Looks awesome in both 8-bit versions so thanks for introducing me to it.

  • @verficationaccount
    @verficationaccount 5 лет назад +2

    27:50 I didn´t have the patience back then either: played with a trainer and often booted it up just to listen to the music!

  • @Peterpanic-c3h
    @Peterpanic-c3h 5 лет назад

    I must have read the Last Ninja 2 review in Zzap!64 issue 41 100 times during the school summer holidays. It looked absolutely amazing and I was massively excited for it's release every time I read it. Absolutely love these videos!

  • @Nautilus1972
    @Nautilus1972 5 лет назад

    IK+ ... Last ninja .. .game changers, mate. Love your videos. Merry Christmas Kim!

  • @iancox7397
    @iancox7397 5 лет назад

    This is the kind of video you do best Kim. Good work!

  • @reagandow850
    @reagandow850 5 лет назад +1

    You’ve been putting out some great videos my friend. Great work.

  • @daibonehead
    @daibonehead 4 года назад +1

    Great video, Kim. System 3 were a benchmark for Quality in my eyes. Same for Thalamus for their first few releases.

  • @mrtiff99
    @mrtiff99 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the vid. Have a great Christmas Kim!

  • @PaZuZu3743
    @PaZuZu3743 5 лет назад +1

    I had that version with the ninja mask and throwing star. Loved it

  • @SneakyShark
    @SneakyShark 5 лет назад

    IK+ on the Amiga is up there as one of my all timers. Many happy hours with my brothers & cousins having marathon Knock-Out tournaments on 2-Player. Love it!

  • @trelard
    @trelard 5 лет назад +1

    I owned a C64 but the first time I fell in love with Last Ninja was a version released on the Apple Mac in the computer "lab" (lol) at Secondary school. I think it was in black and white or monochrome or something, but it was enough to get my interest. IK+ was a favourite when my mates came round. Looking at the gaming landscape now and the indie devs are becoming a force to be reckoned with, just like it was when the 8-bit systems were king. It's amazing at the resurgence of the bedroom game dev and we're better off for it.

  • @Etcher
    @Etcher 5 лет назад

    Oh my god Kim what a great vid! Myth on the Speccy - my absolute fav. I remember asking my dad what "statutory" meant because one of the clues in the manual was relating to the medusa towards the end of level 2. LN2 and Myth quote possibly two of the best speccy games ever written.

  • @spiderjerusalem100
    @spiderjerusalem100 5 лет назад +1

    My family had a C64 and a ZX Spectrum +2 back in the early 90's and i have fond memories of me and my brother playing so many fun games on them but maaaan are they rough to revisit nowadays. Old consoles like the NES and SNES are still really fun now but the majority of Euro micro computer games are best left in your memories.

  • @OperationPhantom
    @OperationPhantom 5 лет назад

    Thanks Kim, very enjoyable video! System 3, Thalamus and Sensible Software were great for pushing the C64 as far as it could go and while some of the titles of the first two haven't aged especially well play ability wise, they sure gave you an A+ quality visual and sonic experience for the time.
    Sad they're no longer with us but Anthony Lees and Ben Daglish gave us an unforgettable soundtrack for Last Ninja 1 and Matt Gray rivals this for the sequel, the Central Park music is just about the greatest "epic" 8 bit action music ever, there's a reason there are multiple metal covers. Reyn Ouwehand did a fabulous job on the third game, he has since become a music producer.

  • @paulpiusink6917
    @paulpiusink6917 5 лет назад

    Kim, you nailed it once again!

  • @roger-mcnally
    @roger-mcnally 5 лет назад

    Great documentary, looking forward to part 2. I still have my boxed c64 version of Last Ninja 2 with Ninja mask, manual and the legendary rubber throwing star.

  • @saeidyazdani
    @saeidyazdani 5 лет назад +1

    I have been waiting for this for so long! ty!

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins 5 лет назад

    Wow! Superbly written story. System 3 are one of my favorite C64 publishers. Myth is one of those games that redefined what the C64 could do.

  • @Midwinter2
    @Midwinter2 5 лет назад +1

    A brilliant video, as usual. One quibble: you seem to feel the graphics in The Last Ninja games got better and better as the series progressed. I would strongly argue that the opposite is the case. The first one took full advantage of the Japanese setting, with excellent use of colour, balanced contrast and beautiful compositions. The two sequels became progressively shabbier and messier. Last Ninja 3, particularly, had graphics that looked rushed and unfinished.

  • @RockYeahh
    @RockYeahh 5 лет назад

    This has been great and my god the wikipedia page for System 3 is tiny. At least we have your video as a resource!

  • @EdgyNumber1
    @EdgyNumber1 5 лет назад +2

    Matt Gray's soundtracks.. mmmmm... AWESOME!

  • @CuttingtheCaboose
    @CuttingtheCaboose 5 лет назад +3

    You keep making videos that I wish I had made; brilliant as always!

  • @bege4394
    @bege4394 5 лет назад +1

    The musicians of Flimbo's Quest were Reyn Ouwehand and Johannes Bjerregaard, not Jeroen Tel / MoN. About Tusker: what makes it memorable is the soundtrack by Matt Gray. Brillian!

  • @documentthedrama8279
    @documentthedrama8279 5 лет назад

    myth and bankok nights., it has been 30 years since i played them and yet, like an old song buried in the mind, seeing them again triggers so many memories. just how "realistic" they looked back then. how your mind and imagination had to make up for a lot of things not there. great times

  • @kommissar.murphy
    @kommissar.murphy 5 лет назад

    Finally!
    Been waiting for this for ever.
    System3 always seemed like the classiest publishers.
    Thank you, Kim!

  • @warman
    @warman 5 лет назад +2

    Oh the memories! Myth on the speccy. That tusker poster was so iconic and vendetta... *sighs*

  • @AvariciousOne82
    @AvariciousOne82 5 лет назад

    Always excited to see another gaming documentary posted!

  • @SlinkiestTortoise23
    @SlinkiestTortoise23 5 лет назад

    Yes! Yes! Yes! One of the finest channels on RUclips strikes again!

  • @atari-staffroom
    @atari-staffroom 5 лет назад

    Excellent vid. Really looking forward to the next one. Please include the ST version of IK (not plus) when you get to the 16-bit machines. A beautiful ST exclusive (although in recent years the Amiga got a homebrew port) that doesn't get enough love, and one that i can't recommend highly enough.

  • @domicius
    @domicius 5 лет назад

    Love these - can't wait for part 2!

  • @waltherstolzing9719
    @waltherstolzing9719 5 лет назад +2

    Absolutely beautiful, as always. One correction, though: On the C64, Flimbo's composer was Reyn Ouwehand. (Maniacs of Noise may have done the Amiga version, which I can't verify right now.)

    • @retronavigator
      @retronavigator 5 лет назад

      I think Reyn was also member of MoN too.

    • @waltherstolzing9719
      @waltherstolzing9719 5 лет назад

      @@retronavigator Yes; but the MoN isn't credited at all in the C64 version of Flimbo's Quest.

    • @HuntersMoon78
      @HuntersMoon78 5 лет назад

      Charles Deenen did the Amiga music for Flimbo's Quest.

    • @retronavigator
      @retronavigator 5 лет назад

      @@waltherstolzing9719 I never said MoN was credited - It's Kim who said that ;). I don't think it's that important. Just one minor mistake in a great material anyway!

    • @waltherstolzing9719
      @waltherstolzing9719 5 лет назад

      @@retronavigator Yes you did. YOU RUINED MY CHILDHOOD!!! (nah, only joking.)

  • @Dave7g
    @Dave7g 5 лет назад

    Please tell me you have a link for that news of the world wedding photographer confessions ad?

  • @clydethomas52
    @clydethomas52 5 лет назад

    Just watched the video, great stuff as alway's kim, anybody else notice the slug in the background around 49:10, look's like it was dropped in from another world.

  • @80Thom80
    @80Thom80 5 лет назад

    Ugh, that jumping in Last Ninja - three separate keys, for three different lengths of jump - is why I never got anywhere in the Acorn Electron version.

  • @amatasengchansavang5638
    @amatasengchansavang5638 5 лет назад

    Loved playing the Last Ninja. I remember just attacking the enemy and then moving to the next screen so I wouldn't get hit. When you came back their health was still low, so just keep repeating until they died and I would hardly get hit haha. Then I discovered that you can just "block" when they hit, which was doing the opposite motion of attacking but you had to time it with their hits (it actually looked like you were picking something up). Amazing what I came up with as a child.. this was without a trainer too so I had to come up with ways like that. Was always great to discover a solution to a puzzle! Gone are those days where I can sit there for hours hehehe.

  • @anavash
    @anavash 5 лет назад

    Thank you Kim I didn't know anything about System 3! At least I was aware of The Last Ninja ha. Wow you've been on a serious roll lately. :D Merry Christmas from the US!

  • @loneronin6813
    @loneronin6813 5 лет назад

    While I haven't played the original International Karate game, I played a Game Boy Advance version of the game as a kid that I loved to death :D I'm also a martial arts practitioner and was always obsessed with martial arts ever since I was about five or so. I remember even the GBA version of the game (which I found and bought at a Costco believe it or not) had very precise controls.
    While it took me a little while to learn the controls, I eventually got to the point where I could make it to black belt. One interesting detail in the game was a mini-game where you had to dodge bombs while also kicking balls and occasionally, even a severed head! Good times lol XD

  • @petars.6210
    @petars.6210 5 лет назад

    I can't wait for Part 2. :)

  • @peterbrandt7911
    @peterbrandt7911 5 лет назад

    Nice documentary, as always!

  • @DUBSDADEVILL
    @DUBSDADEVILL 5 лет назад +3

    You say Gwass often in this video it makes me happy when you say it Gwass.

  • @JP-monkeybot
    @JP-monkeybot 5 лет назад

    Another great Doc.Thanks

  • @steverobinson243
    @steverobinson243 5 лет назад

    Amazing video can't wait for prt 2.
    Last ninja was/is still amazing

  • @drakon32
    @drakon32 5 лет назад

    Another great episode.

  • @HuntersMoon78
    @HuntersMoon78 5 лет назад

    I still have Myth for the Commodore 64 on cassette and cartridge - Still working too.

  • @TheRetroByte
    @TheRetroByte 5 лет назад

    Excellent documentary Kim. Always liked System 3 games 👍

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland 3 года назад

    "Naughty but Nice" was also the title of a black and white 'adult silent movie' I ahve seen somewhere on a VHS tape with collected similar works.

  • @bege4394
    @bege4394 5 лет назад

    28:16 What, it's possible to jump backwards with the ninja?

  • @lifeschool
    @lifeschool 5 лет назад

    Excellent doco, you definitely went into the fine details with this one. 12:56 - At the next years CES show, World Championship Karate was the first european game to get the CES Showcase Award. I am amazed Melborne House didnt sue for image likeness as the two games characters are almost 1:1, and its clear Archer completely ripped it off. But then again, if you saw Fist+ on the C64, you would see they ripped off IK+ good and proper. Thanks for clearing up the Iron Curtain story for me. I asked John Cale about this in 2017 at Play Blackpool, but he didnt say much except that they are still friends. For me, the Last Ninja 2 is the greatest C64 game ever, but I never could get into LN3, it just felt strange somehow.

  • @LordmonkeyTRM
    @LordmonkeyTRM 5 лет назад +1

    Bangkok knights was a great game very impressive in 1987

  • @DazAu78
    @DazAu78 5 лет назад

    I just put a thumbs and I haven't seen it yet. My favourite developer

  • @dogbadger
    @dogbadger 3 года назад

    I think you're doing the Tusker music something of a disservice - I recon it was right up there with his Last Ninja 2 soundtrack (meaning it's as good as any on the system) and certainly captured the atmosphere of the Tusker stage enviroments.

  • @andydavidson1278
    @andydavidson1278 5 лет назад

    Absolutely loved Myth on the Speccie...still got my original boxed retail copy😃
    Remember using a map for the first, hell level, printed in Your Sinclair (still got that mag as well😝)

  • @jameswallace
    @jameswallace 4 года назад

    Holy fookin shite. Bangkok Night's!!! I'd completely forgotten this game until I saw it here. Spent many an hour playing this on C64 back in the day. Quality fighter.

  • @hannibalsolo4409
    @hannibalsolo4409 5 лет назад +1

    Myth is one of my top favourite C64 games of all time. I still fire up the music from time to time. Didn't like it on the Amiga, though.

  • @thefurthestmanfromhome1148
    @thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 года назад

    Not got a lot of time for Mark Cale myself, tried to interview him,but you weren't allowed to ask about lost games (entire point of the interview), interview had to appear in major publications,interview had to promote system 3 games.
    Jog on Mark :@

  • @torhansen8570
    @torhansen8570 5 лет назад

    Looking forward to part 2. :)

  • @Giantwaspface
    @Giantwaspface 5 лет назад

    42:35
    Thank God, I was going to go spare if you left out Flimbo's Quest. Stone cold classic, that one.

  • @NathanJayMusic
    @NathanJayMusic 5 лет назад

    I'm pretty sure my copy of Death Star Interceptor had a sticker on claiming it was the only game with official Star Wars licensed music.

  • @3bigbaws
    @3bigbaws 5 лет назад +1

    That's tonight tv sorted👍 cheers kim.

  • @BrainDamageComedy
    @BrainDamageComedy 2 года назад

    would love more 'the story of 'x' music album from back in the day' documentaries. your oasis one got me to listen to the album (some of the songs are really good, if a little long). so thanks for that :) for some reason i feel like you enjoy boxing - if so are u watching the tyson fury vs whyte world HW title fight this saturday?? biggest in uk since 93'

  • @orderofmagnitude-TPATP
    @orderofmagnitude-TPATP 5 лет назад

    Thought i recognised "conan" via the NES.... (via AVGN - "you press 'DOWN' to jump" lol) - it does look like an awesome title micro computer wise tho...

  • @Halbared
    @Halbared 4 года назад

    Never played IL, but I loved Exploding Fist back then. And one which had a foreign name

  • @michaelkitchin9665
    @michaelkitchin9665 5 лет назад

    I'm down for this. I lost my shit in a Grainger Games when I saw PSOne copy of IK+ on the shelf. I had to have it. Plus I really liked their PS3 Ferrarri Challenge / Supercar Challenge games. It stunned me they were still going.

  • @perihelion7445
    @perihelion7445 5 лет назад +1

    The only system they dominated on was the C64 but I love them for that because I loved the C64 ❤
    On the Amiga and subsequent systems they weren't much chop ☹

  • @Schleimie
    @Schleimie 5 лет назад +1

    I want a Remaster of The Last Ninja one and two.

  • @Mintcar923
    @Mintcar923 5 лет назад +1

    I honestly don’t know why stuff like Karate Champ & the like is not rebooted now being everyone has dual analog sticks and lots of buttons..
    Something like this has the possibility of being a much deeper and better system than what we ever saw with the SF’s and MK’s.. We need more realistic martial arts sims and less fireballs and fatalities

  • @BrunoB78
    @BrunoB78 5 лет назад

    great games and great video!

  • @AllOuttaBubblegum123
    @AllOuttaBubblegum123 5 лет назад

    That Alan partridge, wedding photographer ad. 🤣

  • @shinvelcro
    @shinvelcro 5 лет назад

    Wasn't the c64 release of Myth disk & Cart only? I remember having a right nightmare of garden care to get the cash for it on cart as I never had a disk drive.

  • @jcardboard
    @jcardboard 5 лет назад

    I only really played Flimbo's quest of their c64 stuff but much later on I got really addicted to Constructor on, of all things, the PS1. A flawed but unique and strangely compelling game. Had this weird humour to it which was a sort of gritty opposite number to Bullfrog.
    I didn't realise they recently put out a remaster-cum-sequel of sorts. I'm going to have to buy it...

  • @HankAstral
    @HankAstral 4 года назад

    great video thankyou.

  • @bitoxic
    @bitoxic 5 лет назад

    You should do Thalamus! Another top notch publisher!

  • @M00gz2010
    @M00gz2010 5 лет назад

    Love these

  • @willmistretta
    @willmistretta 5 лет назад

    Wow. Myth might be the first time I've ever looked a Spectrum game and thought that it looked genuinely awesome. That's not a knock on the system, really. I love my old Atari, but it also doesn't really play host to a lot of amazing visuals. Anyway: Those Myth bosses are badass.