The Lord has been convicting me and leading me out of the lordship salvation heresy as of late and I'm so thankful to Him for it!! I used to follow ithinkbiblically, but when he started to teach that you can lose your salvation I started to get a heavy feeling that I was not listening to sound teaching. And of course God was right! I'm so grateful for your channel and the way you are able to explain things. Thank God for teachers like you.
Me two I realised that it was because him and others like him preach condemnation they forget the gospel is good news I can’t keep the law simple as that Thank god for for cross of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ who said it is finished he did everything not us
I just recently came upon this guy on RUclips and liked some of his videos until I found out he was a works salvationist. Thanks for exposing these guys!
Michael k same here I watched few of him last year.. Then he started showing clips of john macarthur I challenged him as did nt realise he was calvanist/lordshipsalvation he did reply and said he wasn't one but didn't disagree with it never watched him again here in UK. So glad oronato has exposed him.
Brother, as I clicked this video I said “last time I came here it was the exact scripture I needed” I clicked this video and saw it was Galatians 5, I teach Galatians 5 on Thursday to a missions team!! I can just say, WOW God! Thank you!
I am about to start a bible study and I have been praying about which book to begin with. I was contemplating Galatians but unsure. Everywhere I go I keep seeing references to Galatians.
Onorato, you are doing a fantastic and very much needed public service to the unsaved people who think that they are saved but are not because they have been inundated with false teaching about how to be saved. From you, they will learn how to truly be saved. Thank you so much! Please keep exposing all of these false teachers!
Thank you so much for explaining this so easily. Those Lordship Salvation people are constantly taking verses out of context. Keep preaching the Truth!!!
Amen, Paul is reminding believers that since they live in the Spirit, why not walk where you live. It's like living in a secure gated community and then driving down to the crime-ridden neighborhood to walk or jog to get your exercise. It's not safe. You may come back robbed and beaten. Walk where you live !!!
You certainly have the gift of teaching, brother. You clearly make everything I have believed more understandable. Thank you, Father, for allowing this man to Glorify you through the gifts you have given him.
When I believed on the the previous blood of Jesus I Immediately inherited the kingdom of God. Your inheritance does not come when you die but when you believe. Believing is receiving
Amen brother! Rightly dividing the word of truth. 1 Corinthians 6:11 "And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.".
Absolutly. Always and when in doubt, Scripture with Scripture. The Scriptures are complicated for a reason, so that no unbeliever would just read and reason his way into heaven. Thats why its impossible to please God without the one thing those people dont have...faith.
@@Eisenhammer78 Amen - Hebrews 13:5 "...for He hath said I will never leave thee nor forsake Philippians 1:6 “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”.
One thing that worries me is people who say those who believe on Christ for salvation only because they fear hell aren't saved. Is belief not genuine if its from a fear of hell rather than a love for God?
Good teaching! Dead to sin by the body of Christ! Dead to the law ! It cannot prosecute a believer! That is how we are dead to sin! It's positional! Not literal because of our flesh! Being positionally dead to sin! Should motivate a new walk. Reckon yourselves dead!
Lordship salvation? Wow! Many so-called Protestants are teaching works based righteousness like that other apostate church of Roman Catholicism. However, you have done a fantastic job explaining the True Gospel ❤❤❤ There are many people circulating ads stating that You Can Lose Your Salvation or they say Once Saved Always Saved is a Lie and also many LSD ads. Satan is truly busy. Thank you again for teaching the Gospel. We need more teachers like you!
I am at a church where we are being challenged to prove that we are being saved he wants us to prove to him how do you know you're saved, I do not know what happened to being justified being sanctified so that we can be glorified our church is really small can you help me to speak to them? Is there any way I could talk to you other than listening to your Video, I have been with these people 5 years
@@davidjp7197 I'm sorry, I will not take a few second clip that may be taken out of context and say false teacher/heretic. I'll do my due diligence. If he has issues with Lordship Salvation, then let him enjoy his free grace. Like I said yesterday, Jesus is LORD and Saviour! I see both in scriptures. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@@davidjp7197 1. Watching two random videos does not equal following. I am not subscribed. 2. It's always good to see all sides of a particular issue 3. If you listen to only people you agree with, there's little cause to "prove all things" or "test the spirit". 4. I am open minded to those that may be more spiritually mature in the word to glean from and to learn from. Even a broken clock is right two times a day. 5. Everyone has the right to push -back on a public platform as such. 6. You come across interesting people from all walks of life 7. Maybe my comment (s) can edify another or cause some to ponder their understanding of scripture Have a wonderfully blessed day.
@@BouncySlim1 If you knew the truth, you would know who speaks the truth because it is the truth. This should be obvious if you have wisdom. The reason so many are deceived is because they put their trust in man rather than trusting the Lord because you don't need anyone to teach you if you have the Holy Spirit. Makes no sense to trust in a fallen man if there is a God who created everything. Read the Bible. 1 JOHN 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
@Mr K Every promise is to only Israel, even the Messiah... To claim "we'd all be sinless" is to say that Jesus's sacrifice wasn't necessary, since God could have put His Spirit in everyone. People still stumble and keeping the atonement for sin commands would be pointless... According to Moses' writings, he had God's Spirit, yet sinned. Why did God's Spirit depart King Saul?... The key word is blameless, not sinless... Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
Hey Onorato, Im starting to learn to read scripture and it can be overwhelming. Since watching your videos I have been able to get a better grasp of God's Word. Thank you for these informational videos and exposing the dangers of works based salvation taught by false preachers. Thank you again and God bless. ✝️
I'm glad you did this video! iThinkBiblically videos started popping up in my feed and after watching I was like, this man is preaching works. The Lordship Salvation doctrine causes a lot of stress, anxiety and general damage to believers, in my experience it often holds people back from moving forward in their walk and leads to self righteousness. iThinkBiblically comments section give me serious Pharisee vibes as well, a lot of angry folks, idk.
Agreed completely! When I was listening to works Salvationists and lordship Salvationists, I was always drenched in cold sweat at night and tossing and turning on my bed worrying about Hell. After hearing the true gospel, there’s no way in Hell I’m going back to those filthy rags and worrying all the time. If only they spent half as much time reading the Bible as they did whacking people upside the head with it…
@@KoryGilesMusicGroup That's great to hear, keep it up! Lordship Salvation is the injection of worldly principles into the Gospel. It imparts anxiety and a spirit of performance on believers, causing them to doubt their salvation and to focus more on their own works than the finished work of the Cross. One of the most beautiful things in our faith is the assurance that we have through our faith. We know and believe that Christ paid it all, that He is good, that He knows us because his Holy Spirit dwells in us, that He is faithful to finish the work he began in us and that He will never leave nor forsake us. It is not like this in other religions, they are fatalistic with obscure goals & performance metrics before one is "good enough" to enter heaven.
What people don't realize is that any Christian can still commit these sins for example idolatry, lust, and lying, are probably the three sins that pretty much every Christian would commit every single day.
I'm no way advocating for sin, or that you should sin, or continue to sin. Here in Dallas Tx I listen to this guy, he's on the radio name is Mike Kestler and he just loves to beat you on the head with this scripture. He'll say.... ....."Friends do not be deceived it says, " DO NOT BE DECEIVED "........ and goes on to rattle off the rest of the verse. And it's always really confusing because everything else the guy says he's right on. So yesterday it got me thinking, then worrying if I'm wrong! And I had a little freak out session with my self and then prayed asking God to reveal the truth. Because if the truth is that if I continue to do...this sin, or that sin, or whatever sin and can be saved, I want to know! But if the deal is that if I do this sin, and that sin, and this sin and can't be saved, I WANT TO KNOW! I mean if you just think about it rationally you have to come to the conclusion that a man can sin their way to heaven ( most of us do anyways ). Sure we put down the big "SINS" the ones that easily come to mind, or piss of your girlfriend or wife. But what about those sins in the morning time before your brain is even awake and a horrible thought comes across it. Did you realize that thought alone regardless if you mean it, it came from you the devil or WHATEVER, is enough all by itself to send you to hell. Salvation is a Gift. We know that. A Gift is "free"! So that means that you can act however you want and still be saved. Because it's not the "stopping of something" or the "starting of something" by YOU that determines if your saved. It's what Christ did on the cross that determines whether or not your saved. Your saved by God through Faith by the sacrifice Christ made on the cross being acceptable before God to make you righteous by your faith. A "Gift" is something that is Free, like scripture says salvation is. So that means that there isn't anything I can do to get it. Not one thing. I can't even have the Faith to believe it unless God calls to my heart. If I give you a Gift than ask you to do "ANYTHING" in return it's no longer a gift, just payment for the work your going to do. That's not what scripture says salvation is. Scripture says it's a "free Gift" based off of God's Mercy towards us and Christ's work on the cross. So positionally the day you believed you never sinned again "in the spirit". God is keeping that party holy and separate (1 John 3:9) from the flesh that still surrounds us all. You should have a desire to stop sinning. If your in a particular sin and you are having issues with stopping than before asking God to help you quit just acknowledge your love for it! Because if your truly saved and are continuing in a sin than you do LOVE IT! Just acknowledge that part first, and then ask God to help you quit. This is what it means to "Worship in Spirit and in Truth". Honestly opening up your heart no matter how dark before God and asking for help. Because the truth is he already knows it all anyways, he's just waiting on your to stop pretending He doesn't.
He needed to remind them of those things, because it was the start of the church age and it shouldnt stop after the first generation. They needed to spread correct doctrine, even know they themselves where saved, for the sake of all coming generations. Today in the age of apostacy, we have a similar situation. We must walk in the spirit and stay in true doctrine, because false teachers grow by the day, deceive and being deceived. God bless
Brother, keep up your walk with the Lord. You have been leading me out of Lordship and works based salvation, thank you so much for your ministry and teaching! Please continue to walk with the love you already have been showing! Some Christian content creators will make thumbnails on their videos of false teachers and put horns on their heads or call people demons. But you don't do that, you actually keep a smile on your face and lead people to the light of the Lord by preaching the true gift of salvation gospel. You are a true servant of the Lord. Thanks and much love brother!! God bless and peace in Christ
I say that Paul was talking to a mixed audience as there are wheat and tares in every single church. The sin lists are pertaining to the lost, who, according to James 2: 10 are guilty of all.
Brother, thank you for this teaching. Please tell me which audible version you are using to quote scripture. This voice reminds me of a typical '40s Christian radio show. I would find it very motivating to have this type of voice/accent pump Scripture to my brain and spirit while I do chores. Thank you in advance brother !
Love you brother Would love your take on the Jesus Revolution…they get so much right and a phenomenal film…and yet especially the baptism angle I believe they got extremely wrong. Too bad.
@@gregorylatta8159 5] I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? [6] But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. [7] Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? [8] Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. [9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. [12] All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. [13] Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. [14] And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. So it seems the Corinthians, are SO carnal (immature) that they arent even able to discern brother from nonbeliever in verse 5. They are going against there brothers to the unrighteous to judge the matter. The unrighteous WHO WILL NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. We will judge angels and no matter how outwardly righteous the unjustified seem (legalistic folk) they will NOT inherit the kingdom.
@@bighand1530 me too. But in its context, Paul is saying, "you guys are going to law against each other involving people who are not made righteous by belief in Christ's finished work." Looking at those titles Paul puts on them "thieves, murders etc." Those are people under the law. They are under the law because they are not under grace because they believe in what they gotta do, not what Jesus did for us. See, later in the chapter he says "and such were some of you, but you have been washed!" Dont fear, Jesus paid for our sins and came back to life proving He is the only begotten Son of God. Since Jesus paid our debt, there is no more debt to pay. If you believe this, you are saved and need not fear hell my friend. I dont know if thats what yo I meant by not wanting to be deceived, but I spent many years in torment over my salvation and want to be used by Jesus to share tge good news.
So glad you exposed this teacher as I was watching him last year here in UK there was no indication he was a lordshipsalvation/calvanist until he showed a clip of john macarthur so I challenge him on the Gospel as to why he was using clips of a false works gospel he did reply with that he wasn't a calvanist but he didn't disagree with it either 😕 never watched him again.. So glad you exposed this as some of this lordship is so sneaky.. 🙏
@@bighand1530it's a false gospel of Jesus plus works.salvation is a free gift the moment a person believes on Christ finished work on the cross.ephesians 2:8_9 for by grace we are saved through faith not by works least any man should boast. Mark and avoid all false teachers who preach another gospel.
He's right, those who do those things won't inherit the kingdom of God. And every single "lordship salvationist" is on that list. Us too. Now,...what are we gonna do about it? I choose to trust the gospel of what Christ has done for us (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
How can anyone call their version "good news"? "You are sick, wretched and incapable of living a righteous life but you better get your act together if you want to present yourself acceptable to the great physician who is not going to heal you but sit and judge you for being sick"
Thank you brother as always for breaking it down. Does "shall not inherit the Kingdom of God" Its does not say you loose Heaven, But you will loose your inheritance that was waiting for you in the kingdom. If it said"Heaven" well all of us would be doomed... as we have all fallen short of the Glory of God as it is written in scriptures also explained in Col3:24(referring to our inheritance again) Ephesians 5:( about our inheritance) God Bless
Before agreeing any teaching on social media.. please.. confirm it on Holy Spirit.. Fast and pray if needed just to Confirm any teachings... Many people now teaches but cannot hear the Holy Spirit because they teach using theology without Holy Spirit.
When we come to God by the grace of God through faith he makes us alive spiritually who were once dead in trespasses and sin. That's just the beginning our conversion, our Ephesians2:8-9 salvation event. Everyone who has been converted has this salvation event in their past and cannot lose an event. When Jesus returns judgement our resurrection, that's also a salvation event and hasn't happened yet it's in our future. That's why it not only matters if we believe remain faithful to Christ. It also matters how we live our walk our righteousness now in this lifetime. Has nothing to do with keeping Torah laws or working for salvation. After our conversion event we maintain our present salvation by abiding in the doctrine of Christ.....and this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. And this life is in his son. He who has the son has life, he who does not have the son of God does not have life....whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the father and the son....eternal life is in Christ not in ourselves. When Christ returns judgement our resurrection, that's when we are resurrected unto life and have life in ourselves like Christ.....for as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order Christ the firstfruits afterwards those who are Christ at his coming....and as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for him he will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.....marvel not at this for the hour is coming in which all who are in the Graves will hear his voice and come forth those who have done good to the resurrection of life and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation.....many can see the beginning our conversion salvation event but cannot see the end when Christ returns judgement our resurrection, final salvation event. They believe they have already arrived but they haven't been resurrected unto life. We must interpret all scripture through the doctrine of Christ, then all scripture pertaining to salvation fits together with out ignoring or explaining anything away......we will be once saved always saved only after we are resurrected unto life and have life in ourselves like Christ.......
If you have Jesus and the Holy Spirit you are a slave to Him not sin anymore. I think this passage talks about living in sin, therefore how can you be a slave to Christ when you are still a slave to sin.
Only that which is born of God won't sin, hence needing to be born again for salvation, you can find this in [John 3:3], [John 3:6], and [1 John 5:18], and they read; [John 3:3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. [John 3:6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [1 John 5:18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
When any Christian person sins they are operating in the flesh (sinning). A believer's weakness or deliberate intent in sinning does not mean he was not saved in the first place nor that he is not free (a 'free' Christian is simply a truly saved person). Simply, if any true believers sin without repenting (repenting/stopping our sin is obviously not a 'work' - God demands this always of course), they will not enter heaven.
Lordship salvationists just CANNOT for the life of them see the difference between the two natures. They believe that somehow the flesh is perfected when we are saved. They completely ignore Romans 7 because it destroys their narrative.
Amen brother. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the TRUTH is not in us. We are all sinners to a degree because we cannot be made perfect in the flesh, only in the Spirit. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. He paid our sin debt in full. John 3:18. We will not be perfect until the resurrection. Then we will be like Him who saved us by grace. Until then, we should walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh for rewards in heaven. First Corinthians 3:11-15, and to keep from the chastening of the Lord, Colossians 3:5-6. But a born again believer can never be lost. Ephesians 1:13-14. Our guarantee of eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption, the rapture of the church. If we keep the faith through trials and tribulations we will have a reward in heaven. If we lose our faith we are still saved. Second Timothy 2:13. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. He will never leave us for forsake us. John 6:37. He will never cast us out. John 6:39. Jesus has never lost one sheep. Romans 6:23 For the penalty for sin is death, but, (the good news) the GIFT of God is eternal life. No one can earn it, and once you have it you can not lose it because it is eternal life. Not temporary life or probationary life, but eternal life. First John 5:13.
Amen brother. Second Peter 3:16. They wrest/twist the scriptures to their own destruction. Romans 5:19-21 Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. We can be chastened by the Lord, but never lose eternal life. Romans 6:23. For the penalty for sin is death, physical death, but, (the good news) THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. He paid the debt and set us free. John 3:18. The gospel is good news. First Corinthians 15:1-4. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. Romans 11:6. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, THAT YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
I have been watching tons of videos about once saved always save vs lordship salvation. At the end of the day i believe once saved always saved. I hear the arguments already. That just gives me an excuse to kill, rape, molest, lie cheat and steal. My question for the lordship crowd is when do know you have crossed that line in the sand.. How do you know when the blood of Jesus can no longer save you. Yes i mean that. For the record i have not committed the most horrendous sins i mentioned. About a week ago i asked a waitress if she believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be. She threw it back to me. I said people believe only killers rapists and child molesters deserve hell. I then said well you can lie 'cheat, steal ,and use people for your gain and go to hell. I have a long rap sheet and so do the salvation crowd. I am saved by Jesus blood sacrifice . No more no less.
Amen brother, the righteous works of men apart from the finished work of Christ alone is Satan's greatest tool of deception. Titus 3:5. Lordship salvation and their " fruit inspectors" can never be clearly defined, and is different from church to church. It is subjective and unknowable, therefore unbiblical. The gospel is objective truth concerning Jesus Christ, and knowable. 1John 5:11-13.
In Greek it is in present tense which has a durative aspect to it. So the actual translation of this passage should be more like "Who constantly lives in these things" than "Who does all these things once or from time to time". Of course we sin as christians because of our flesh. But a christian should be concerned living constantly in those things. When someone calls himself a christian and is pleased with these things and does not see it as big of a deal to, for example, live in adultery or drunkenness than it should be questioned if he really wants to follow christ or his own desires. We shouldn't be concerned of losing our salvation by commiting these sins from time to time. But these things should not describe our lifestyle. That is how I understand it.
Galatians 5:21, “Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Sin comes from the flesh and the flesh doesn’t inherit the Kingdom of God. Our new birth inherits the Kingdom of God. Born once die twice, born twice die once. A believers flesh has sin, which is why it must die, but a believers new spiritual birth has no sin, which is why it lives forever with God. 1 Corinthians 15:42-50, “So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
Good point what I was thinking. I do believe we cannot lose our salvation but Paul is saying I warn you, perhaps the inheritance is not salvation but rewards
@carltonarvelo all those TRUELY born again have new hearts(desires) . Although we will sin , we will not have a lifestyle of sin. We do not practice sin habitually . Also, it's not what men say is sin, but what the scriptures say is sin, which comes from within a man.
Galations 6 KJV 12 As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. 13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh. 14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. 17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. 18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Why does Paul address them as brethren and then say “if the spirit of God indwells in them” as if it’s possible that some of them are indeed not brethren?
The easiest way to spot a false preacher is if they "prove" their doctrine by one single verse or passage of Scripture. Salvation by grace through faith is proven by over 200 verses in Scripture, so if you have a contrary doctrine based on one or maybe at best a few, then that should tell you something. "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." (Rom 11:6 KJV) "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." (Gal 5:4 KJV) Trying not to sin for salvation is trying to be justified by the law. Because keeping the law is not to sin.
Would it be possible for you to please define for me what exactly lordship salvation means? you may think that you did in this video and perhaps you actually did and I missed it. I hear people talk about it and I still don't get what it means. Does it mean you can lose your salvation? If it means you can lose your salvation why do they call it lordship salvation? What is the etymology
There are many ways that Lordship Salvation can be articulated. Usually, it comes in the form of saying that works will make/keep/prove you are saved. But they all ultimately boil down to this one statement: Unless you live a certain way, you cannot enter heaven.
Exactly what James says above. I’ve found a lot of times they try to catch you up on things like keeping the sabbath. “It’s in the 10 commandments” or other such arguments. The answer to that is the our lord and savior, Jesus Christ is our sabbath. The 10 commandments are to show us that no one can keep the law and it has always been through faith that saves us now and saved the saints of the Old Testament.
@@jameshendrix-hf7xz thank you for ACTUALLY paying attention to and answering my question See the reason for my confusion is when I hear lordship salvation it sounds like the salvation is coming from the Lord It should be selfship salvation
Also, if I might add that lordship salvationist are rather having faith in themselves and their works for salvation rather than putting 💯 faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross.
Wierd, I just saw a video by thinkbiblicaly on the hippies in the Jesus movement and David Wilkerson. Thought it was very interesting seems these Hippies knew the true Gospel but they were being accosted because of their sin I found it shocking and the comments were even crazier.
Yeah...but the point is those who do these things will never inherit the kingdom. Now if you teach that you can even go on enjoying your sinful life and be certain that you are going to heaven, tell me if i am rude to say jude 4 may be speaking of teachers like you. Jude 1:4 [4]For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
I'm thinking along the lines that, a believer has only one true, born-again Holy nature, living in a human body which has a nature all of it's own...( otherwise if WE, at death were duel natured, part of us goes to heaven and, the other part OF US goes to hell, not so in the scriptures, except Christ taking on our sin in exchange for giving us His Rightiousness by Law [ the Law of the Spirit of life, in Christ Jesus], explained below!!) In Romans 7:18 Apostle Paul stating, in me [ then he hesitates and says ] (that is in my flesh) [ seperating his new creation in Christ with in himself from his old sinful nature], (that is in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing, and [ Galations 2:20] the life that I [ the new spiritual man of the heart] now lives in the flesh, I now live by the faith OF the Son of God [ the scrptures also state that Grace as well as faith comes from God and is not of our own, as in faith comes by hearing, hearing [ believing by ] the Word of God...[ the believer putting his/ her human faith into now believing what God says ( in other words, the Faith which comes by hearing [ believing] God's Word, (God's Faith the evidence of things not seen)...now,also, becomes our faith, His Faithfullness becomes our faith [ as in from faith to faith in the scriptures]... For by Grace are we saved through Faith, and THAT NOT OUR OWN self, it [ Salvation ] is the gift of God, not of works ,lest any man[ kind] should boast... For further consideration, believers are " in the Spirit of the Law [ or Jurisdiction of the Law ] of life in Christ Jesus" [ not under the Law [ Jurisdiction ] of sin and death, as in Romans 8: 1,2... talking about our flesh... In Christ, the Jurisdiction of the Spirit of the Law is after a new Priesthood, after the order of Melchizidic ( as the book of Hebrews states) , Not after the Levitical Law [ Jurisdiction ] as in the B.C. times... I see Paul explaining the believers one true nature fighting against Paul's nature of his flesh ( which does appear a two nature issue but, explained within the context of God's Word as one born- again believer, fighting between the flesh and the Spirit... of the Spirit is the new created believer...just my thoughts!!
Amen!! But Ono, John MacArthur, Paul washer, John Piper, Ray Comfort, they will get their flesh to heaven because they have made the flesh perfect, isn’t that one of Ray Discomfort’s favorite sayings, that he doesn’t play the hypocrite, he doesn’t sin. 😳 Sad they’re are deceived, but they want it to be by their own work/righteousness. God bless bro
Do none of you understand what was said, that those who live in sin will not inherit eternal life? Yes, it is possible to fall away from the faith. Paul writes in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 that there will be a falling away from the faith. Jesus warned us not to be decieved several times in Matthew 24. Calvinists are completely wrong about this.
Romans 8:12-13 Therefore brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.. OSAS is a serious heresy of this last confused/corrupt generation that is full of false and presumptuous teachers at every corner. Don't promote what Jesus himself or Paul or John did not teach.. Scripture is more than clear that people can depart from the faith and so fall from grace though the LORD wishes that for no one! 1 Timothy 4:1..; John 15; 1 John 5:16-17.. Also all of Jesus' warning to the churches in Revelation 2-3.. Many have been taught Falsely by men. Even John Bunyan author of Pilgrim's Progress was not OSAS!
John 6:39, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” Jesus said He will not loose 1 single saved believer. This sounds like OSAS to me. I will take the Word of my Savior over yours. I think the problem you have is that you are a unbeliever. You don’t believe Jesus died for your sins. You’re not satisfied with the payment Christ made on the cross. You don’t believe Christ did enough.
@@AZ6971 You don't believe in Christ and you don't trust him as Lord. You have the faith that demons have. Those of us who are saved put our trust in Jesus because he is the only way of salvation. We follow him and obey him because we trust him.
@@UnderTheFloor79, I obey the Lord because I love Him and am great full for the salvation He provided me. I believe that Jesus is not only necessary, but He is enough. I’m satisfied with the payment He made on the Cross! The preaching of the Cross to them that perish is foolishness, but to us who are saved, it is the power of God. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to all those that believe. I do not frustrate the grace of God, for if righteousness came by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. If you don’t believe in the sufficiency of Christs substitutionary payment for sin, then you are a unbeliever, who is trying to work there way to heaven.
That's cool and all, but the reason it says "if" in those verses is because of Romans 3:10-12, and it reads; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Repent and believe the gospel
If your sermon is the Bible it seems to say X here are many words to undo X. Sin boldly. 😂 Jesus said, ... sin no more... But I'm sure you can explain your way out of that too.
King James Bible I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, (THE Almighty) King James Bible (I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. King James Bible Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. King James Bible He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. King James Bible And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY.
THE BELIEVER DOES NOT HAVE 2 NATURES! WE ARE PARTAKERS OF DIVINE NATURE. THE OLD SIN NATURE IS DEAD. WE ARE NEW CREATIONS, THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. WE CAN STILL FOLLOW DICTATES OF FLESH- BUT THAT IS NOT OUR NATURE.
...this flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God.. so true, and to be a little more graphic about it consider circumcision. Spiritual circumcision that separates your two natures. Gal 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you All trespasses;
Let's pretend it is, so what? If someone was prepared to pay such a huge price for the debt you racked up and it is "extra debt" to accept the settlement for a great outcome, shouldn't that motivate you to proceed?
And those are the things that the flesh does. Repenting of those things are called the deeds of the law and by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified that's why you needed a savior. It is a righteousness apart from works and apart from deeds of the law. This man really has the nerve to talk about law when he's obviously in love with carbohydrates? Give me a break
Does He forget that when the Father looks at us who are saved, He sees His Sons righteousness and not our filthy rags.
I dipped me and my rags in the blood of Christ.
Amen Sarah, He who knew no sin became sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God
in Him.
@@arcguardian 👍
Amen
Amen
The Lord has been convicting me and leading me out of the lordship salvation heresy as of late and I'm so thankful to Him for it!!
I used to follow ithinkbiblically, but when he started to teach that you can lose your salvation I started to get a heavy feeling that I was not listening to sound teaching.
And of course God was right!
I'm so grateful for your channel and the way you are able to explain things. Thank God for teachers like you.
What were some examples out of curiosity?
Praise God! Check out Andy Woods 3 part series on Lordship Salvation. It changed my life.❤
@@elizabethl3323 Andy Woods is amazing!
@@BP-E Matt 24 refutes his trib teachings. Read Matt 24 for yourself. Don't listen to anyone's opinion, including mine.
Me two I realised that it was because him and others like him preach condemnation they forget the gospel is good news I can’t keep the law simple as that
Thank god for for cross of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ who said it is finished he did everything not us
I just recently came upon this guy on RUclips and liked some of his videos until I found out he was a works salvationist. Thanks for exposing these guys!
Michael k same here I watched few of him last year.. Then he started showing clips of john macarthur I challenged him as did nt realise he was calvanist/lordshipsalvation he did reply and said he wasn't one but didn't disagree with it never watched him again here in UK. So glad oronato has exposed him.
Yes he had me going for a minute myself. Subtle heresy is often the most diabolical.
@@ninachurchill1217 While there is things Calvinism has right, there is also thing they have wrong too.
@@bighand1530 all 5 points are wrong
Brother, as I clicked this video I said “last time I came here it was the exact scripture I needed” I clicked this video and saw it was Galatians 5, I teach Galatians 5 on Thursday to a missions team!! I can just say, WOW God! Thank you!
He'll do it for you😏 our God is awesome
I am about to start a bible study and I have been praying about which book to begin with.
I was contemplating Galatians but unsure. Everywhere I go I keep seeing references to Galatians.
Onorato, you are doing a fantastic and very much needed public service to the unsaved people who think that they are saved but are not because they have been inundated with false teaching about how to be saved. From you, they will learn how to truly be saved. Thank you so much! Please keep exposing all of these false teachers!
Thank you so much for explaining this so easily. Those Lordship Salvation people are constantly taking verses out of context. Keep preaching the Truth!!!
Amen, Paul is reminding believers that since they live in the Spirit, why not walk where you live. It's like living in a secure gated community and then driving down to the crime-ridden neighborhood to walk or jog to get your exercise. It's not safe. You may come back robbed and beaten. Walk where you live !!!
You certainly have the gift of teaching, brother. You clearly make everything I have believed more understandable. Thank you, Father, for allowing this man to Glorify you through the gifts you have given him.
When I believed on the the previous blood of Jesus I Immediately inherited the kingdom of God. Your inheritance does not come when you die but when you believe. Believing is receiving
Amen brother! Rightly dividing the word of truth.
1 Corinthians 6:11 "And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.".
Absolutly. Always and when in doubt, Scripture with Scripture.
The Scriptures are complicated for a reason, so that no unbeliever would just read and reason his way into heaven.
Thats why its impossible to please God without the one thing those people dont have...faith.
@@Eisenhammer78 Amen - Hebrews 13:5 "...for He hath said I will never leave thee nor forsake Philippians 1:6
“Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”.
I needed to be reminded of this today. Great explanation
I needed this. Thank you.
Amen, understanding the flesh, spirit distinction is extremely important when studying the Bible.
I love your explanations … thank you for taking the time to explain. So many work salvation people out there… it can really mess with you sometimes
Okay, I think I begin to understand this now.
One thing that worries me is people who say those who believe on Christ for salvation only because they fear hell aren't saved. Is belief not genuine if its from a fear of hell rather than a love for God?
No, fear of Hell should provoke you to believe on Christ.
Good teaching! Dead to sin by the body of Christ! Dead to the law ! It cannot prosecute a believer! That is how we are dead to sin! It's positional! Not literal because of our flesh! Being positionally dead to sin! Should motivate a new walk. Reckon yourselves dead!
By your Grace you have saved me by your Grace you transform me
Amen. This video was very helpful!
Amen brother, great explanation!
This channel has helped me tremendously. I am sure it must take much time and effort but it is worth it brother. Praise God!.
Great message.
Thank you brother. Your videos are encouraging, to both live with joy, and to obey Jesus out of love. Thank You and praise You Jesus every day!
Teach Bro!
Amen brother Diamante
Brother, amen. Thank you for explaining this passage.
Excellent Sermon! Absolutely 💯AMEN 🙏❤
Lordship salvation? Wow! Many so-called Protestants are teaching works based righteousness like that other apostate church of Roman Catholicism. However, you have done a fantastic job explaining the True Gospel ❤❤❤
There are many people circulating ads stating that You Can Lose Your Salvation or they say Once Saved Always Saved is a Lie and also many LSD ads. Satan is truly busy. Thank you again for teaching the Gospel. We need more teachers like you!
Thank you for continuing to teach clear doctrine that is true.
I am at a church where we are being challenged to prove that we are being saved he wants us to prove to him how do you know you're saved, I do not know what happened to being justified being sanctified so that we can be glorified our church is really small can you help me to speak to them? Is there any way I could talk to you other than listening to your Video, I have been with these people 5 years
@@arifkesen8383 The only proof of salvation you need is the Gospel itself and your testimony of the fact you believe it!!!
‼️‼️ I would love to see you invite any of the people you use in your video to have a live discussion.
Those people are to be marked and avoided, as they will not submit to truth rightly divided.
@@davidjp7197 I'm sorry, I will not take a few second clip that may be taken out of context and say false teacher/heretic. I'll do my due diligence. If he has issues with Lordship Salvation, then let him enjoy his free grace. Like I said yesterday, Jesus is LORD and Saviour! I see both in scriptures. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@@BouncySlim1 but why are you following him, if you don't agree?
@@davidjp7197
1. Watching two random videos does not equal following. I am not subscribed.
2. It's always good to see all sides of a particular issue
3. If you listen to only people you agree with, there's little cause to "prove all things" or "test the spirit".
4. I am open minded to those that may be more spiritually mature in the word to glean from and to learn from. Even a broken clock is right two times a day.
5. Everyone has the right to push -back on a public platform as such.
6. You come across interesting people from all walks of life
7. Maybe my comment (s) can edify another or cause some to ponder their understanding of scripture
Have a wonderfully blessed day.
@@BouncySlim1 If you knew the truth, you would know who speaks the truth because it is the truth. This should be obvious if you have wisdom. The reason so many are deceived is because they put their trust in man rather than trusting the Lord because you don't need anyone to teach you if you have the Holy Spirit. Makes no sense to trust in a fallen man if there is a God who created everything. Read the Bible.
1 JOHN 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
AMEN HALLELUJAH!!!
Amen brother, Great explanation!
Oh my goodness, I can't believe he said, " Is lordship salvation biblical? Yes, it is."
Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
@Mr K Every promise is to only Israel, even the Messiah... To claim "we'd all be sinless" is to say that Jesus's sacrifice wasn't necessary, since God could have put His Spirit in everyone. People still stumble and keeping the atonement for sin commands would be pointless... According to Moses' writings, he had God's Spirit, yet sinned. Why did God's Spirit depart King Saul?... The key word is blameless, not sinless...
Luke 1:6
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
✝️ God can and does make miracles happen.
Hey Onorato,
Im starting to learn to read scripture and it can be overwhelming.
Since watching your videos I have been able to get a better grasp of God's Word.
Thank you for these informational videos and exposing the dangers of works based salvation taught by false preachers.
Thank you again and God bless. ✝️
I'm glad you did this video! iThinkBiblically videos started popping up in my feed and after watching I was like, this man is preaching works. The Lordship Salvation doctrine causes a lot of stress, anxiety and general damage to believers, in my experience it often holds people back from moving forward in their walk and leads to self righteousness. iThinkBiblically comments section give me serious Pharisee vibes as well, a lot of angry folks, idk.
Agreed completely! When I was listening to works Salvationists and lordship Salvationists, I was always drenched in cold sweat at night and tossing and turning on my bed worrying about Hell. After hearing the true gospel, there’s no way in Hell I’m going back to those filthy rags and worrying all the time. If only they spent half as much time reading the Bible as they did whacking people upside the head with it…
@@KoryGilesMusicGroup That's great to hear, keep it up! Lordship Salvation is the injection of worldly principles into the Gospel. It imparts anxiety and a spirit of performance on believers, causing them to doubt their salvation and to focus more on their own works than the finished work of the Cross. One of the most beautiful things in our faith is the assurance that we have through our faith. We know and believe that Christ paid it all, that He is good, that He knows us because his Holy Spirit dwells in us, that He is faithful to finish the work he began in us and that He will never leave nor forsake us. It is not like this in other religions, they are fatalistic with obscure goals & performance metrics before one is "good enough" to enter heaven.
@@blitz091 We’re a small community, but we’re growing, brother! And we’ll see each other in Heaven! Let’s not let these Pharisees tell us otherwise!
What people don't realize is that any Christian can still commit these sins for example idolatry, lust, and lying, are probably the three sins that pretty much every Christian would commit every single day.
bro have you ever posted your Testimony ?
Hahaha you two are among my favorite Christian vloggers.
I'm no way advocating for sin, or that you should sin, or continue to sin.
Here in Dallas Tx I listen to this guy, he's on the radio name is Mike Kestler and he just loves to beat you on the head with this scripture.
He'll say....
....."Friends do not be deceived it says, " DO NOT BE DECEIVED "........ and goes on to rattle off the rest of the verse. And it's always really confusing because everything else the guy says he's right on. So yesterday it got me thinking, then worrying if I'm wrong! And I had a little freak out session with my self and then prayed asking God to reveal the truth. Because if the truth is that if I continue to do...this sin, or that sin, or whatever sin and can be saved, I want to know! But if the deal is that if I do this sin, and that sin, and this sin and can't be saved, I WANT TO KNOW!
I mean if you just think about it rationally you have to come to the conclusion that a man can sin their way to heaven ( most of us do anyways ). Sure we put down the big "SINS" the ones that easily come to mind, or piss of your girlfriend or wife. But what about those sins in the morning time before your brain is even awake and a horrible thought comes across it. Did you realize that thought alone regardless if you mean it, it came from you the devil or WHATEVER, is enough all by itself to send you to hell.
Salvation is a Gift. We know that. A Gift is "free"! So that means that you can act however you want and still be saved. Because it's not the "stopping of something" or the "starting of something" by YOU that determines if your saved. It's what Christ did on the cross that determines whether or not your saved. Your saved by God through Faith by the sacrifice Christ made on the cross being acceptable before God to make you righteous by your faith.
A "Gift" is something that is Free, like scripture says salvation is. So that means that there isn't anything I can do to get it. Not one thing. I can't even have the Faith to believe it unless God calls to my heart. If I give you a Gift than ask you to do "ANYTHING" in return it's no longer a gift, just payment for the work your going to do. That's not what scripture says salvation is. Scripture says it's a "free Gift" based off of God's Mercy towards us and Christ's work on the cross. So positionally the day you believed you never sinned again "in the spirit". God is keeping that party holy and separate (1 John 3:9) from the flesh that still surrounds us all.
You should have a desire to stop sinning. If your in a particular sin and you are having issues with stopping than before asking God to help you quit just acknowledge your love for it! Because if your truly saved and are continuing in a sin than you do LOVE IT! Just acknowledge that part first, and then ask God to help you quit. This is what it means to "Worship in Spirit and in Truth". Honestly opening up your heart no matter how dark before God and asking for help. Because the truth is he already knows it all anyways, he's just waiting on your to stop pretending He doesn't.
He needed to remind them of those things, because it was the start of the church age and it shouldnt stop after the first generation. They needed to spread correct doctrine, even know they themselves where saved, for the sake of all coming generations.
Today in the age of apostacy, we have a similar situation.
We must walk in the spirit and stay in true doctrine, because false teachers grow by the day, deceive and being deceived.
God bless
Brother, keep up your walk with the Lord. You have been leading me out of Lordship and works based salvation, thank you so much for your ministry and teaching! Please continue to walk with the love you already have been showing! Some Christian content creators will make thumbnails on their videos of false teachers and put horns on their heads or call people demons. But you don't do that, you actually keep a smile on your face and lead people to the light of the Lord by preaching the true gift of salvation gospel. You are a true servant of the Lord. Thanks and much love brother!! God bless and peace in Christ
I say that Paul was talking to a mixed audience as there are wheat and tares in every single church.
The sin lists are pertaining to the lost, who, according to James 2: 10 are guilty of all.
Brother, thank you for this teaching. Please tell me which audible version you are using to quote scripture. This voice reminds me of a typical '40s Christian radio show. I would find it very motivating to have this type of voice/accent pump Scripture to my brain and spirit while I do chores. Thank you in advance brother !
Alexander Scourbey reading the KJV
Love you brother
Would love your take on the Jesus Revolution…they get so much right and a phenomenal film…and yet especially the baptism angle I believe they got extremely wrong. Too bad.
The thing that got me most about this passage is the "Do not be deceived" part. It is very strong language when speaking of these sins.
So what is your take away???
I don’t want to be deceived
@@gregorylatta8159 5] I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
[6] But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
[7] Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
[8] Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
[11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
[12] All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
[13] Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
[14] And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
So it seems the Corinthians, are SO carnal (immature) that they arent even able to discern brother from nonbeliever in verse 5.
They are going against there brothers to the unrighteous to judge the matter. The unrighteous WHO WILL NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. We will judge angels and no matter how outwardly righteous the unjustified seem (legalistic folk) they will NOT inherit the kingdom.
@@thebasethings9836 I would have to agree with your interpretation.
@@bighand1530 me too. But in its context, Paul is saying, "you guys are going to law against each other involving people who are not made righteous by belief in Christ's finished work."
Looking at those titles Paul puts on them "thieves, murders etc." Those are people under the law. They are under the law because they are not under grace because they believe in what they gotta do, not what Jesus did for us.
See, later in the chapter he says "and such were some of you, but you have been washed!"
Dont fear, Jesus paid for our sins and came back to life proving He is the only begotten Son of God.
Since Jesus paid our debt, there is no more debt to pay. If you believe this, you are saved and need not fear hell my friend.
I dont know if thats what yo I meant by not wanting to be deceived, but I spent many years in torment over my salvation and want to be used by Jesus to share tge good news.
We are able to please God if we alk in the Spirit, but, we will walk after the flesh, that is how we know Him, how we learn to love Him.
Subscribing to Lordship Salvation does not prevent one from committing any and all of those sins.
Good teaching.
So glad you exposed this teacher as I was watching him last year here in UK there was no indication he was a lordshipsalvation/calvanist until he showed a clip of john macarthur so I challenge him on the Gospel as to why he was using clips of a false works gospel he did reply with that he wasn't a calvanist but he didn't disagree with it either 😕 never watched him again.. So glad you exposed this as some of this lordship is so sneaky.. 🙏
There is things that Calvinism has right, but also has wrong too.
@@bighand1530it's a false gospel of Jesus plus works.salvation is a free gift the moment a person believes on Christ finished work on the cross.ephesians 2:8_9 for by grace we are saved through faith not by works least any man should boast. Mark and avoid all false teachers who preach another gospel.
He's right, those who do those things won't inherit the kingdom of God. And every single "lordship salvationist" is on that list. Us too. Now,...what are we gonna do about it? I choose to trust the gospel of what Christ has done for us (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
These guys always cherry pick the Scripture. They do not rightly divide the word of truth.
Amen, so many people r caught up in this false gospel..
How can anyone call their version "good news"?
"You are sick, wretched and incapable of living a righteous life but you better get your act together if you want to present yourself acceptable to the great physician who is not going to heal you but sit and judge you for being sick"
Thank you brother as always for breaking it down. Does "shall not inherit the Kingdom of God" Its does not say you loose Heaven, But you will loose your inheritance that was waiting for you in the kingdom. If it said"Heaven" well all of us would be doomed... as we have all fallen short of the Glory of God as it is written in scriptures also explained in Col3:24(referring to our inheritance again)
Ephesians 5:( about our inheritance)
God Bless
Before agreeing any teaching on social media.. please.. confirm it on Holy Spirit..
Fast and pray if needed just to Confirm any teachings...
Many people now teaches but cannot hear the Holy Spirit because they teach using theology without Holy Spirit.
When we come to God by the grace of God through faith he makes us alive spiritually who were once dead in trespasses and sin. That's just the beginning our conversion, our Ephesians2:8-9 salvation event. Everyone who has been converted has this salvation event in their past and cannot lose an event. When Jesus returns judgement our resurrection, that's also a salvation event and hasn't happened yet it's in our future. That's why it not only matters if we believe remain faithful to Christ. It also matters how we live our walk our righteousness now in this lifetime. Has nothing to do with keeping Torah laws or working for salvation. After our conversion event we maintain our present salvation by abiding in the doctrine of Christ.....and this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. And this life is in his son. He who has the son has life, he who does not have the son of God does not have life....whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the father and the son....eternal life is in Christ not in ourselves. When Christ returns judgement our resurrection, that's when we are resurrected unto life and have life in ourselves like Christ.....for as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order Christ the firstfruits afterwards those who are Christ at his coming....and as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for him he will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.....marvel not at this for the hour is coming in which all who are in the Graves will hear his voice and come forth those who have done good to the resurrection of life and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation.....many can see the beginning our conversion salvation event but cannot see the end when Christ returns judgement our resurrection, final salvation event. They believe they have already arrived but they haven't been resurrected unto life. We must interpret all scripture through the doctrine of Christ, then all scripture pertaining to salvation fits together with out ignoring or explaining anything away......we will be once saved always saved only after we are resurrected unto life and have life in ourselves like Christ.......
He thinks corruptedly because he’s using a corrupted version.
What about lines like “do not just merely listen to the word and deceive yourself. Do what it says.”
We interpret such passages in light of context.
@@OnoDiamantedo you believe in the trinity? Genuine question :)
@@iivequinoxvii3200 Absolutely.
@@OnoDiamante amen, praise be to Yahweh- glad to hear that
He just read it & took it for what it was & didn’t study it in context & told his viewers his quickest thoughts lol
If you have Jesus and the Holy Spirit you are a slave to Him not sin anymore. I think this passage talks about living in sin, therefore how can you be a slave to Christ when you are still a slave to sin.
Only that which is born of God won't sin, hence needing to be born again for salvation, you can find this in [John 3:3], [John 3:6], and [1 John 5:18], and they read;
[John 3:3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[John 3:6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[1 John 5:18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Sad that they have to invent a term like Lordship Salvation.
When any Christian person sins they are operating in the flesh (sinning). A believer's weakness or deliberate intent in sinning does not mean he was not saved in the first place nor that he is not free (a 'free' Christian is simply a truly saved person). Simply, if any true believers sin without repenting (repenting/stopping our sin is obviously not a 'work' - God demands this always of course), they will not enter heaven.
Lordship salvationists just CANNOT for the life of them see the difference between the two natures. They believe that somehow the flesh is perfected when we are saved. They completely ignore Romans 7 because it destroys their narrative.
Amen brother. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the TRUTH is not in us. We are all sinners to a degree because we cannot be made perfect in the flesh, only in the Spirit. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. He paid our sin debt in full. John 3:18. We will not be perfect until the resurrection. Then we will be like Him who saved us by grace.
Until then, we should walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh for rewards in heaven. First Corinthians 3:11-15, and to keep from the chastening of the Lord, Colossians 3:5-6. But a born again believer can never be lost. Ephesians 1:13-14. Our guarantee of eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption, the rapture of the church. If we keep the faith through trials and tribulations we will have a reward in heaven. If we lose our faith we are still saved. Second Timothy 2:13. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. He will never leave us for forsake us. John 6:37. He will never cast us out. John 6:39. Jesus has never lost one sheep. Romans 6:23 For the penalty for sin is death, but, (the good news) the GIFT of God is eternal life. No one can earn it, and once you have it you can not lose it because it is eternal life. Not temporary life or probationary life, but eternal life. First John 5:13.
Amen brother. Second Peter 3:16. They wrest/twist the scriptures to their own destruction. Romans 5:19-21 Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. We can be chastened by the Lord, but never lose eternal life.
Romans 6:23. For the penalty for sin is death, physical death, but, (the good news) THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. He paid the debt and set us free. John 3:18. The gospel is good news. First Corinthians 15:1-4. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. Romans 11:6.
First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, THAT YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
I have been watching tons of videos about once saved always save vs lordship salvation. At the end of the day i believe once saved always saved. I hear the arguments already. That just gives me an excuse to kill, rape, molest, lie cheat and steal. My question for the lordship crowd is when do know you have crossed that line in the sand.. How do you know when the blood of Jesus can no longer save you. Yes i mean that. For the record i have not committed the most horrendous sins i mentioned. About a week ago i asked a waitress if she believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be. She threw it back to me. I said people believe only killers rapists and child molesters deserve hell. I then said well you can lie 'cheat, steal ,and use people for your gain and go to hell. I have a long rap sheet and so do the salvation crowd. I am saved by Jesus blood sacrifice . No more no less.
For by Grace are we saved through faith [ faith comes by hearng, hearing by the Word of God...
Amen brother, the righteous works of men apart from the finished work of Christ alone is Satan's greatest tool of deception. Titus 3:5. Lordship salvation and their " fruit inspectors" can never be clearly defined, and is different from church to church. It is subjective and unknowable, therefore unbiblical. The gospel is objective truth concerning Jesus Christ, and knowable.
1John 5:11-13.
In Greek it is in present tense which has a durative aspect to it. So the actual translation of this passage should be more like "Who constantly lives in these things" than "Who does all these things once or from time to time". Of course we sin as christians because of our flesh.
But a christian should be concerned living constantly in those things. When someone calls himself a christian and is pleased with these things and does not see it as big of a deal to, for example, live in adultery or drunkenness than it should be questioned if he really wants to follow christ or his own desires.
We shouldn't be concerned of losing our salvation by commiting these sins from time to time.
But these things should not describe our lifestyle.
That is how I understand it.
Amen.
Amen. The way true believers believe, is truly good news. The way the man at the beginning of the video believes, is not good news at all
Galatians 5:21, “Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Sin comes from the flesh and the flesh doesn’t inherit the Kingdom of God. Our new birth inherits the Kingdom of God. Born once die twice, born twice die once. A believers flesh has sin, which is why it must die, but a believers new spiritual birth has no sin, which is why it lives forever with God.
1 Corinthians 15:42-50, “So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
Thanks for adding this, I think you nailed the right understanding of this passage and backed it up by comparing scripture with scripture.
@@claytontheriault1352, Awesome, I’m glad it helped. The Bible is amazing and truly the Word of God!!!
I have never seen a belief system anywhere on earth that argues amongst itself more than Christianity.
Flesh does not inherit the kingdom of God. Spirit does.
genuine question: why does Paul begin with “I warn you…” directly before he says that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom?
Good point what I was thinking. I do believe we cannot lose our salvation but Paul is saying I warn you, perhaps the inheritance is not salvation but rewards
@@paulgealer21 You are so right....rewards, whether here now or in heaven.
It's not about " loosing salvation " this is about whether one ever obtained salvation having never been regenerate
So if you actually obtained salvation you have to be perfect?
@@Handstandpushuper no.
@@ABiblicalView What do you mean then?
@carltonarvelo all those TRUELY born again have new hearts(desires) . Although we will sin , we will not have a lifestyle of sin. We do not practice sin habitually . Also, it's not what men say is sin, but what the scriptures say is sin, which comes from within a man.
@@ABiblicalView But what does it mean to sin habitually
We can lose our faith HEBREWS 10:26-31
Galations 6 KJV
12 As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Why does Paul address them as brethren and then say “if the spirit of God indwells in them” as if it’s possible that some of them are indeed not brethren?
The easiest way to spot a false preacher is if they "prove" their doctrine by one single verse or passage of Scripture. Salvation by grace through faith is proven by over 200 verses in Scripture, so if you have a contrary doctrine based on one or maybe at best a few, then that should tell you something. "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." (Rom 11:6 KJV) "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." (Gal 5:4 KJV) Trying not to sin for salvation is trying to be justified by the law. Because keeping the law is not to sin.
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Would it be possible for you to please define for me what exactly lordship salvation means? you may think that you did in this video and perhaps you actually did and I missed it. I hear people talk about it and I still don't get what it means. Does it mean you can lose your salvation? If it means you can lose your salvation why do they call it lordship salvation? What is the etymology
There are many ways that Lordship Salvation can be articulated. Usually, it comes in the form of saying that works will make/keep/prove you are saved.
But they all ultimately boil down to this one statement: Unless you live a certain way, you cannot enter heaven.
Exactly what James says above. I’ve found a lot of times they try to catch you up on things like keeping the sabbath. “It’s in the 10 commandments” or other such arguments. The answer to that is the our lord and savior, Jesus Christ is our sabbath. The 10 commandments are to show us that no one can keep the law and it has always been through faith that saves us now and saved the saints of the Old Testament.
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thank you for ACTUALLY paying attention to and answering my question
See the reason for my confusion is when I hear lordship salvation it sounds like the salvation is coming from the Lord
It should be selfship salvation
Also, if I might add that lordship salvationist are rather having faith in themselves and their works for salvation rather than putting 💯 faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross.
Wierd, I just saw a video by thinkbiblicaly on the hippies in the Jesus movement and David Wilkerson. Thought it was very interesting seems these Hippies knew the true Gospel but they were being accosted because of their sin I found it shocking and the comments were even crazier.
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Yeah...but the point is those who do these things will never inherit the kingdom. Now if you teach that you can even go on enjoying your sinful life and be certain that you are going to heaven, tell me if i am rude to say jude 4 may be speaking of teachers like you.
Jude 1:4
[4]For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
I'm thinking along the lines that, a believer has only one true, born-again Holy nature, living in a human body which has a nature all of it's own...( otherwise if WE, at death were duel natured, part of us goes to heaven and, the other part OF US goes to hell, not so in the scriptures, except Christ taking on our sin in exchange for giving us His Rightiousness by Law [ the Law of the Spirit of life, in Christ Jesus], explained below!!)
In Romans 7:18 Apostle Paul stating, in me [ then he hesitates and says ] (that is in my flesh) [ seperating his new creation in Christ with in himself from his old sinful nature], (that is in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing, and [ Galations 2:20] the life that I [ the new spiritual man of the heart] now lives in the flesh, I now live by the faith OF the Son of God [ the scrptures also state that Grace as well as faith comes from God and is not of our own, as in faith comes by hearing, hearing [ believing by ] the Word of God...[ the believer putting his/ her human faith into now believing what God says ( in other words, the Faith which comes by hearing [ believing] God's Word, (God's Faith the evidence of things not seen)...now,also, becomes our faith, His Faithfullness becomes our faith [ as in from faith to faith in the scriptures]...
For by Grace are we saved through Faith, and THAT NOT OUR OWN self, it [ Salvation ] is the gift of God, not of works ,lest any man[ kind] should boast...
For further consideration, believers are " in the Spirit of the Law [ or Jurisdiction of the Law ] of life in Christ Jesus" [ not under the Law [ Jurisdiction ] of sin and death, as in Romans 8: 1,2... talking about our flesh...
In Christ, the Jurisdiction of the Spirit of the Law is after a new Priesthood, after the order of Melchizidic ( as the book of Hebrews states) ,
Not after the Levitical Law [ Jurisdiction ] as in the B.C. times...
I see Paul explaining the believers one true nature fighting against Paul's nature of his flesh ( which does appear a two nature issue but, explained within the context of God's Word as one born- again believer, fighting between the flesh and the Spirit... of the Spirit is the new created believer...just my thoughts!!
Amen!!
But Ono, John MacArthur, Paul washer, John Piper, Ray Comfort, they will get their flesh to heaven because they have made the flesh perfect, isn’t that one of Ray Discomfort’s favorite sayings, that he doesn’t play the hypocrite, he doesn’t sin. 😳
Sad they’re are deceived, but they want it to be by their own work/righteousness.
God bless bro
Do none of you understand what was said, that those who live in sin will not inherit eternal life? Yes, it is possible to fall away from the faith. Paul writes in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 that there will be a falling away from the faith. Jesus warned us not to be decieved several times in Matthew 24. Calvinists are completely wrong about this.
the kingdom is also apon us... do those things and you will?
Romans 8:12-13 Therefore brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live..
OSAS is a serious heresy of this last confused/corrupt generation that is full of false and presumptuous teachers at every corner. Don't promote what Jesus himself or Paul or John did not teach.. Scripture is more than clear that people can depart from the faith and so fall from grace though the LORD wishes that for no one!
1 Timothy 4:1..; John 15; 1 John 5:16-17.. Also all of Jesus' warning to the churches in Revelation 2-3.. Many have been taught Falsely by men. Even John Bunyan author of Pilgrim's Progress was not OSAS!
John 6:39, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.”
Jesus said He will not loose 1 single saved believer. This sounds like OSAS to me. I will take the Word of my Savior over yours. I think the problem you have is that you are a unbeliever. You don’t believe Jesus died for your sins. You’re not satisfied with the payment Christ made on the cross. You don’t believe Christ did enough.
Amen. Once you just believe scripture and reject OSAS, all the tension and weird gnostic stuff is unnecessary.
@@AZ6971 You don't believe in Christ and you don't trust him as Lord. You have the faith that demons have.
Those of us who are saved put our trust in Jesus because he is the only way of salvation. We follow him and obey him because we trust him.
@@UnderTheFloor79, I obey the Lord because I love Him and am great full for the salvation He provided me. I believe that Jesus is not only necessary, but He is enough. I’m satisfied with the payment He made on the Cross! The preaching of the Cross to them that perish is foolishness, but to us who are saved, it is the power of God. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to all those that believe. I do not frustrate the grace of God, for if righteousness came by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
If you don’t believe in the sufficiency of Christs substitutionary payment for sin, then you are a unbeliever, who is trying to work there way to heaven.
That's cool and all, but the reason it says "if" in those verses is because of Romans 3:10-12, and it reads;
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Repent and believe the gospel
If your sermon is the Bible it seems to say X here are many words to undo X. Sin boldly. 😂
Jesus said, ... sin no more...
But I'm sure you can explain your way out of that too.
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Pretty sure that dude has hatred towards some ppl. If he wouldn’t lie and be honest he would see that he isn’t sinless.
King James Bible
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,
(THE Almighty)
King James Bible
(I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
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Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
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He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
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And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY.
I know I think biblically. He is more like I think satanically
THE BELIEVER DOES NOT HAVE 2 NATURES! WE ARE PARTAKERS OF DIVINE NATURE. THE OLD SIN NATURE IS DEAD. WE ARE NEW CREATIONS, THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. WE CAN STILL FOLLOW DICTATES OF FLESH- BUT THAT IS NOT OUR NATURE.
...this flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God.. so true, and to be a little more graphic about it consider circumcision. Spiritual circumcision that separates your two natures.
Gal 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you All trespasses;
Then Christianity is for NO ONE ! Because ALL people are flawed. And accepting someone else’s death in exchange for your own is JUST PLAIN SELFISH !!
Let's pretend it is, so what? If someone was prepared to pay such a huge price for the debt you racked up and it is "extra debt" to accept the settlement for a great outcome, shouldn't that motivate you to proceed?
Thinking unbibilically is Calvanist Lordship salvation is totally unbiblical this Ray Discomfort wanna be is a punk
very Christian of you
Do not be deceived..... It's really straight forward. Doesn't need to have some sort of gnostic spin to explain it away.
And those are the things that the flesh does. Repenting of those things are called the deeds of the law and by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified that's why you needed a savior. It is a righteousness apart from works and apart from deeds of the law. This man really has the nerve to talk about law when he's obviously in love with carbohydrates? Give me a break
Works salvation is true, check this out...Romans 5:19 "...through the obedience of the One, the many will be made righteous" 😁