Four Gamers Go Outside for the First Time - Ep. 67

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @ernestoherrera3220
    @ernestoherrera3220 2 года назад +1795

    Its sad aqua didn’t make it back, but at least he seems happy with “his people” whatever that means

    • @yeoldtroll1355
      @yeoldtroll1355 2 года назад +1

      He did. He drown in a tent flood.

    • @TheArtofKAS
      @TheArtofKAS 2 года назад +12

      Yes YEs . Twas a worthy sacrifice

    • @grimace4257
      @grimace4257 2 года назад +191

      Ever noticed his chest tattoos with the germanic eagles and weird windmills? 🤔

    • @coolbeans6839
      @coolbeans6839 2 года назад

      Fuck aqua. All aquas done is use Same to get to where he is now. Then does absolutely nothing with him anymore. Aquas no better than an immigrant wife.

    • @deadshot4245
      @deadshot4245 2 года назад +29

      he's the grand wizard

  • @bradley5890
    @bradley5890 2 года назад +1497

    Bizzle really should be a permanent member of the podcast or at least a consistent guest

    • @deadshot4245
      @deadshot4245 2 года назад +95

      I agree 100%. Excellent member of the crew

    • @danielr1753
      @danielr1753 2 года назад +61

      We need just a little more of that Bizzle

    • @lipayy9852
      @lipayy9852 2 года назад +59

      And he would definitely be great at pulling a guest into the convo

    • @jamesgatz5301
      @jamesgatz5301 2 года назад +16

      I for sure could use extra Bizzle

    • @microplasticsrule
      @microplasticsrule 2 года назад +8

      one monthly bizzle episode

  • @spooky4080
    @spooky4080 2 года назад +756

    finally bizzle is back on, truly the most anticipated guest of all time

    • @logans811
      @logans811 2 года назад +4

      best guest

    • @lackofawilltolive
      @lackofawilltolive 2 года назад +15

      Aside from Abby and stalltt

    • @fries4450
      @fries4450 2 года назад +3

      The Bizzle episode was one of the best imo.

    • @de-ment
      @de-ment 2 года назад +12

      Bizzle has to become a co-host

    • @Nevermore101
      @Nevermore101 2 года назад +9

      Love how positive he is - he's the yin to their yang

  • @soupdogg7553
    @soupdogg7553 2 года назад +335

    Bizzle has always been, hands down, the perfect balancing piece

  • @mikehunt1175
    @mikehunt1175 2 года назад +338

    i want bizzle as a co-host, mr bizzle episode is my favourite

    • @chancejanociak1279
      @chancejanociak1279 2 года назад +35

      Would be dope but also 4 dudes… what is this the gamer hole???

    • @biscuit4292
      @biscuit4292 2 года назад +2

      @@chancejanociak1279 4? it would be 3

    • @blacksuitnotie
      @blacksuitnotie 2 года назад +2

      @@biscuit4292 So out of Sam, Bryan, Poob and Bizzle, who's the chick my guy?

    • @atomic_bomba
      @atomic_bomba 2 года назад +1

      the fly part from "this is not a comedy podcast" is my absolute favorite

    • @hoff4301
      @hoff4301 2 года назад

      3 boys 1 man

  • @einar_476
    @einar_476 2 года назад +326

    Bryan needs a green screen, I know he cannonically lives in the back rooms, but it really breaks my immersion when 3 out of 4 members are clearly in the wilderness and Bryan is in his depression hole.

    • @Kalron9
      @Kalron9 2 года назад +43

      How do you know he's not in the wilderness with a greenscreen depression hole?

    • @RSCALES11
      @RSCALES11 2 года назад +8

      @@Kalron9 bcuz it’s Bryan- he hates that shit lmao

    • @topgunskrill1392
      @topgunskrill1392 2 года назад +5

      You got what u wanted.... Was it worth it?

    • @fu5t719
      @fu5t719 2 года назад +18

      Bruh what immersion are you like rping you live with them. Are you pretending to be in a conversation with them hahahha

    • @KarpetBurn
      @KarpetBurn 2 года назад +1

      Everytime I see Bryan's room now I will think he's stuck in the backrooms

  • @LObo6156
    @LObo6156 2 года назад +316

    "a group of internet dwellers discover hanging out IRL is kind of neat," the episode

  • @NLT-pm4sq
    @NLT-pm4sq 2 года назад +507

    I laughed hysterically for the mushroom story however, I bought the patreon exclusively to hear Bryan's rant.

    • @holymosey2556
      @holymosey2556 2 года назад +53

      Lmao same. After I finish it. I'm cancelling that shit!

    • @isuspep
      @isuspep 2 года назад +29

      mind sharing for the poor rats like me

    • @jare2067
      @jare2067 2 года назад +18

      yea man transcribe it in the comments

    • @deaconoob
      @deaconoob 2 года назад +10

      You've been swindled

    • @alexandriareed9346
      @alexandriareed9346 2 года назад +12

      You paid for that shit?

  • @wyldenites
    @wyldenites 2 года назад +178

    I am convinced Bryan lives in a nook in the Backrooms

  • @pihajzvetrom1120
    @pihajzvetrom1120 2 года назад +75

    I think this is the first recorded ocurance of sam giving a genuine compliment, that shroom trip really turned some screws in his brain lmao

  • @alhassirakhdugani5813
    @alhassirakhdugani5813 2 года назад +245

    “This guy was a fucking freak”
    In reality he was just a nice dude that helped them find what they were looking for and then went back about his business.

    • @LILCURTTT
      @LILCURTTT 2 года назад +59

      A goddamn madman if you ask me

    • @Ashephalt
      @Ashephalt 2 года назад

      Don’t lie, you were a little goblin man around them.

    • @alhassirakhdugani5813
      @alhassirakhdugani5813 2 года назад +8

      @@LILCURTTT 🤣

  • @ethanyungblut1307
    @ethanyungblut1307 2 года назад +210

    Glad to see you guys succeed in killing Aqua on the camping trip

  • @JimKongJones
    @JimKongJones 2 года назад +90

    "Which one of you flat foots ate half my pop tart?" - Poob probably

    • @projectonyx6491
      @projectonyx6491 2 года назад +15

      while he also has pop tart crumbs all over his face

  • @andreadams6115
    @andreadams6115 2 года назад +189

    it's fortunate Steve didn't end up coming along him and his two right feet would have slowed the group down

    • @Julian-uk6mj
      @Julian-uk6mj 9 месяцев назад

      steve would not fit the vibe at all

  • @sped4983
    @sped4983 2 года назад +73

    Poob was incredibly dripped out

    • @matthewwynn3025
      @matthewwynn3025 2 года назад +9

      We hold these truths to be self evident

    • @ayooayden7499
      @ayooayden7499 2 года назад

      @@matthewwynn3025 I like it picasso

  • @hiimharvey4191
    @hiimharvey4191 2 года назад +71

    after hearing this i understand why they quit 4 miles in. truly a forehead fables moment by planning a hiking trip in a random place at the worst time of year

    • @KOSVENDETTA
      @KOSVENDETTA 2 года назад +7

      The funny thing is they’ve been planning this for literal fucking years lmao

  • @liaven_
    @liaven_ 2 года назад +86

    Imagine having so much Star Power that someone with the same name as you has to be called “Poob” instead.

    • @Anipixelz
      @Anipixelz 2 года назад +8

      Been watching since the start only recently did I found out Poobs name is Sam

    • @hellboip7876
      @hellboip7876 2 года назад +4

      @@Anipixelz His twitch says he legally changed his name to Poob but I honestly can't tell if it's a joke or not.

    • @Anipixelz
      @Anipixelz 2 года назад +9

      @@hellboip7876 It is deffo a joke lol, would be great tho

  • @benvos2458
    @benvos2458 2 года назад +33

    Bizzle seems like the nicest dude and such a good friend

    • @Bee_Tea_Sea
      @Bee_Tea_Sea 2 года назад +4

      You seen his channels?

    • @nelliott500
      @nelliott500 2 года назад +3

      Definitely check out his channel. He's got some great editing and content.

  • @stevebutters306
    @stevebutters306 2 года назад +10

    Sam immediately becoming an ADD goblin on shrooms is entirely believable

  • @JayTraversJT
    @JayTraversJT 2 года назад +14

    Bizzle seems like such a kind and considerate person.
    What a dude.

  • @davidb321
    @davidb321 2 года назад +233

    So when are we making Bizzle a 4th host?

    • @grarje5.755
      @grarje5.755 2 года назад +23

      Let’s make it official already!!

    • @BattousaiMLT
      @BattousaiMLT 2 года назад +2

      Hell yes

    • @theguy8763
      @theguy8763 2 года назад +11

      I'd say kick Bryan and put bizzle in. With 4 hosts that wouldn't leave room for a guest, podcasts get too chaotic with more than 4 people. Or they could alternate bizzle and Bryan. I'd be down with that

    • @DofWMaelstrom
      @DofWMaelstrom 2 года назад +41

      @@theguy8763 That's fucking heresy, we need Bryan

    • @redinmolator
      @redinmolator 2 года назад +26

      @@DofWMaelstrom I dunno what for, but we NEED BRYAN.

  • @linamiller4208
    @linamiller4208 2 года назад +12

    I'm in literal tears hearing Poob describe how Sam sounded like a witch in a tiny tent

  • @BattousaiMLT
    @BattousaiMLT 2 года назад +24

    This is one of the greatest episodes of any podcast ever

  • @KEVVIIN
    @KEVVIIN 2 года назад +7

    This podcast has turned into something I look forward to each week. It’s come a long way already.

  • @jacobedler296
    @jacobedler296 2 года назад +45

    "You know what you can put in a basket? Anything that fits in a basket" - Bizzle

  • @MajoraDivine
    @MajoraDivine 2 года назад +103

    Weird that Bryan is on this one. I figured they left him for dead on the cold mountain trail.

  • @orangejuice9396
    @orangejuice9396 2 года назад +15

    Honestly, the weirdest part about the whole drug trip thing is where aqua refused to take them because "that's not the way of god" and then put on the klan hood.

  • @sg5184
    @sg5184 2 года назад +49

    Poob is such a vibe we should start calling him the viber-ator

  • @tagtrenton8659
    @tagtrenton8659 2 года назад +6

    So great to see/hear the trip was a success, also appreciate the Pooh and bizzle love in this episode

  • @feedmepap3r882
    @feedmepap3r882 2 года назад +10

    As an NH boy, I can whole heartedly recommend a hiking trip in nh, but make sure it's around august-september. Least unpredictable weather of the year, and fall foliage in September makes it scenic

  • @ctrouble2309
    @ctrouble2309 2 года назад +66

    Legit props to Brian. I know the feeling of being the dead weight on a hike. Its brutal

    • @williamjohnson4417
      @williamjohnson4417 2 года назад +36

      Props to Brian for his years of neglecting his physical health to the point that a 4 mile hike nearly kills him, how brave and completely unavoidable. not like he had months (if not years) to prepare for a hike with his friends.
      I'm sure all his shit breaking was because it was made poorly and had nothing to do with the extra 100+ lbs of fat he carries with him every where he goes...
      But props Brian, roll out his participation trophy.
      🏆
      the person who really deserves props is Sam, seeing him next to byran really shows how far he has come.

    • @spencerlee4410
      @spencerlee4410 2 года назад +14

      @@williamjohnson4417 based

    • @Sadistic_77
      @Sadistic_77 2 года назад +12

      @@williamjohnson4417 Extremely based

    • @vneezy
      @vneezy 2 года назад +6

      @@williamjohnson4417 you dropped this sir 👑

    • @elliswebster7041
      @elliswebster7041 2 года назад +11

      @@williamjohnson4417 average General Sam commenter

  • @punch.buisness3887
    @punch.buisness3887 2 года назад +15

    Sounds like Bryan was more having a panic attack in the tent then being cold

  • @Neon11234
    @Neon11234 2 года назад +59

    I enjoyed poob’s cosplay, I can believe he blended in

  • @yearofthegarden
    @yearofthegarden 2 года назад +1

    As someone who also partakes in bushcraft, I've been looking forward to this episode forever. As a 20 year old my friends and I used to go get lost in the woods, and suffer together in the snow, smoke and eat mushies, hide under boulders and challenge the weather to get worse. Now they all have kids and it's nearly impossible to get ahold of more than one at a time. It's great to see so many similarities, as when I hike by myself i'll go 20-25 miles a day, but with friends we usually go 2-4. Food always comes first, and we always leave chocolates with fungus at the check in station.

  • @BeanBups
    @BeanBups 2 года назад +6

    Glad staltt could make such a heartwarming episode for such a great group of friends, truly an amazing editor and worker.

  • @MLGREDNECK420
    @MLGREDNECK420 2 года назад +7

    One of the best podcast episode ever and having bizzle on again was a treat, keep up with the good work boyz

  • @KriminalKat
    @KriminalKat 2 года назад +3

    I am so glad you guys decided to have bizzle on the podcast again, I love him so much.

  • @delskif1425
    @delskif1425 2 года назад +73

    I envy this friend group

    • @BakaVHS
      @BakaVHS 2 года назад +56

      You could have this too if you spent your time associating with every crazy person you meet in a video game instead of living it vicariously through a podcast hosted by people who don't know you exist.
      General Sam is MY friend (not yours, got it?) and I can't wait to talk to him again in Forehead Fables next episode.

    • @bigpapao8889
      @bigpapao8889 2 года назад +21

      Dont worry, abby pays these people to be his friend

    • @delskif1425
      @delskif1425 2 года назад

      @@BakaVHS are you like one of them insane people who attach to a content creator

    • @e6staffsargeify
      @e6staffsargeify 2 года назад +2

      Well then what's up new friends

  • @gluehandsluke8477
    @gluehandsluke8477 2 года назад +15

    These four clowns heading into the Alaskan wilderness would be golden

  • @Crota0100
    @Crota0100 2 года назад +3

    2:28:02 lmao Bryan and Bizzle didn't notice the Rathalos and Poob didn't even know what it was haha

  • @dawsonstoneroad7549
    @dawsonstoneroad7549 2 года назад +10

    3 hrs and plenty of talk about the shroom night? Thanks, Staltt

  • @IAmHated284
    @IAmHated284 4 месяца назад +2

    rewatched this like 4 times now, pls do another hike soon boys....also more bizzle

    • @josora1654
      @josora1654 4 месяца назад +1

      I've rewatched it quite a few times myself. They gotta get Bizzle back for another pod

  • @hope6840
    @hope6840 2 года назад +4

    Bizzle really is the only one of these who can socialise lmao
    Respect to him, for respecting the public

  • @noahsharpe3647
    @noahsharpe3647 2 года назад +4

    Bizzle is consistently a fantastic guest

  • @matthewwynn3025
    @matthewwynn3025 2 года назад +2

    Bro, in the thumbnail bizzle is out here looking like a fighter pilot during g-force training. Absolutely immaculate.

  • @thebigbeard6207
    @thebigbeard6207 2 года назад +12

    No wonder sam hates this episode, the whole gang exposes him as a social ludite for 3 hours

  • @mosese1172
    @mosese1172 2 года назад +3

    Over the course of the camping episode and this podcast episode bizzle has become my favorite character/ person of the show 😂 dudes chill as hell and hilarious

  • @yannickdellaert1616
    @yannickdellaert1616 2 года назад +6

    Brian was on his a game this episode. Would love to have more bizzle on the podcast, he vibes wonderfully well with the aura

  • @eaglecohort5259
    @eaglecohort5259 2 года назад +2

    Hiking and backpacking gear is the absolute epitome of “you get what you pay for.” It’s insane how much your experience will be upgraded by not cheaping out on gear. I’m not just talking about it breaking and falling apart, more expensive backpacks for example will distribute weight better and rest much more comfortably on your shoulders, making it an infinitely more pleasant experience. Don’t cheap out, especially on the backpack and the coat.

  • @bozo1919
    @bozo1919 2 года назад +4

    A 3 hour episode of my favorite fine fellas frolicking in the forest? Hell yeah brother

  • @JayTraversJT
    @JayTraversJT 2 года назад +14

    I'm so hunger for the D&D stuff, I can almost taste it.

  • @limpnudle9332
    @limpnudle9332 2 года назад +11

    Yall dont deserve Bizzle, he's too wholesome

  • @PlayerSalt
    @PlayerSalt 2 года назад +11

    Here is a tip, if you are camping with people who are not like expert campers maybe dont go camping in the snow, honestly i think sam just wanted to make a video about bryan or poob freezing to death in the snow then cooking them for one of his cooking videos

    • @brochacho1001
      @brochacho1001 Месяц назад

      sam said he thought it was going to be dry

  • @Sweatypancakes5
    @Sweatypancakes5 2 года назад +2

    watching Poob attempt to enter and exit the tent was infuriating, literally couldn't bend his knees at all

  • @remy2305
    @remy2305 2 года назад +3

    Certainly a shift of energy in the boys 😌 can't wait for the next episode

  • @joshuast.peters447
    @joshuast.peters447 2 года назад +2

    I love the show with bizzle adds a great element to it

  • @dolphin8815
    @dolphin8815 2 года назад +12

    Next time they need to do toad in the Amazon rainforest.

  • @user-cl4iu5ky7s
    @user-cl4iu5ky7s 2 года назад +12

    Being from Idaho makes this 100% funnier

  • @charliextran
    @charliextran 2 года назад +2

    It's "cutting:" when Bizzle is getting in into it.

  • @joshuafurlong5270
    @joshuafurlong5270 Год назад +1

    Listening to the trip story had me cheesin the whole time.
    What a time between homies. Makes me wanna trip again.

  • @PurpleSeaUrchen
    @PurpleSeaUrchen 2 года назад +2

    this whole episode is really cute reminiscing over the bonding. the mushroom stories remind me of highschool cos its all so relatable

  • @C_R112
    @C_R112 2 года назад +2

    The hike seemed fun good work stallt

  • @dylandb2005
    @dylandb2005 2 года назад +1

    This is actually the greatest podcast I have ever listened to given the lore

  • @Zheviche
    @Zheviche 2 года назад +10

    God, guiding bryan and sam through a mushroom trip sounds like a goddamn nightmare. Luckily poob and bizzle are some pretty cool and patient dudes.

  • @captaindaddy5050
    @captaindaddy5050 2 года назад +1

    Bizzle should always be on this podcast, he adds a lot!

  • @Cole_1
    @Cole_1 2 года назад +4

    This and the actual hike episode makes me wanna drag my friends out in to the woods

  • @st0n3r81
    @st0n3r81 2 года назад +2

    1:20:20 try not drinking anything but water and eating all natural yogurt for a week with light foods you should feel better its probably your stomach lining or some shit like that

  • @xbowjanglesx505
    @xbowjanglesx505 2 года назад +14

    Yo where the Bryan mushroom video

  • @theannouncer5538
    @theannouncer5538 2 года назад +7

    I was thinking they’d get into a Ritual type situation

  • @JustWhyFFS
    @JustWhyFFS 2 года назад +11

    One thing worse than the "manual breathing" feeling, is the "I'm suddenly very aware of my tongue" feeling.

  • @tanman__3878
    @tanman__3878 2 года назад +2

    Bizzle is the dad, mom and grandma of the group

  • @branmikefrye
    @branmikefrye Год назад

    Went back to watch this loooooong after watching the video of the trip. Laughed at this more than any other episode of Forehead Fables.

  • @madbanditgaming8788
    @madbanditgaming8788 2 года назад +4

    The Channel 5 guy has continuous visual fragmentations from shrooms, just so you guys know. I don’t really know the details, but he went crazy hard when he was young and now always basically sees snow and has a dissociative disorder. Not saying don’t do shrooms but it’s not impossible to get messed up.

    • @zaddyzeeseburgnutz
      @zaddyzeeseburgnutz 2 года назад

      That can only really happen when you do too many psychedelics when your brain is still developing (like Andrew did when he was like 14, I think?). It's rare for adults to get HPPD unless you go far beyond a heroic dose. I have done shroomies and cid quite a few times at varying intensities and haven't had any problems.

    • @Sevren_
      @Sevren_ 2 года назад +1

      He probably already had it or was a prime candidate for dissociative disorder. Drugs don’t give it, but can bring it out if you have any problems

  • @tomatoeskin3781
    @tomatoeskin3781 Год назад +2

    The screaming y'all heard was definilty Elk. They sound haunting.

  • @Sgt_Colt
    @Sgt_Colt 2 года назад +2

    This may be the greatest episode yet.

  • @kirbyj5704
    @kirbyj5704 2 года назад +1

    This has to be one of the best episodes

  • @G_Zero127
    @G_Zero127 2 года назад +2

    Everybody has a camping background and Bryan has his cast couch in the back.

  • @mirnasimmi4901
    @mirnasimmi4901 2 года назад +5

    Bro this shit is so cool. Sam's kid can look back and see her dad talking with his friends about adventures n shit, stuff i loved seeing my dad do

  • @Stone_Cold_Steve_Autisim
    @Stone_Cold_Steve_Autisim 2 года назад +2

    I always pictured Bizzle as a basement troll, was not expecting the chad.

  • @jordanksbud6460
    @jordanksbud6460 2 года назад

    this out of context intro might be the best thing on the internet right now hahaha. thanks for the content gents!

  • @resentfusion5634
    @resentfusion5634 2 года назад +6

    Thankfully Bizzle and Poob were capable

  • @jonathanadamson6476
    @jonathanadamson6476 2 года назад +3

    You know it's funny hearing Sam talk about his post Covid Cursed horrid poops , cause after Covid my poops have become logs of hatred and decay as well , I thought I was alone lol .

  • @Mackbro69
    @Mackbro69 2 года назад +2

    watching the mushroom part was great lol brang back some crazy memories. i know that exactly feeling just uncontrollably laughing and yelling random shit as loud as possible lmao its like absolute chaos is happening when in reality nothing is happening and ur just outa control😅

  • @Denezins4life
    @Denezins4life 2 года назад

    I listen to these at work, binging 9 hours of these guys really takes a toll on ya...
    Worth it though!

  • @oatmeal636
    @oatmeal636 2 года назад +2

    still kinda surprised bizzle isn't a permanent host of the podcast ngl

  • @k.s.3653
    @k.s.3653 2 года назад +10

    Dont care what Sam thinks, this episode is awesome

    • @KriminalKat
      @KriminalKat 2 года назад +2

      So far both episodes with bizzle have been fantastic

    • @k.s.3653
      @k.s.3653 2 года назад +1

      @@KriminalKat They even joked to have him in every episode, i hope they make it real but all of the podcasts with 4 people as "Moderators" is pretty confusing with guests. Maybe they can make it good.

  • @ratsalaad
    @ratsalaad 2 года назад +4

    3 HOURS i love you stallttman keep up the good work

  • @Jimppin
    @Jimppin 2 года назад +19

    Bizzle should really just be part of the forehead fables crew, If we're being honest.

  • @jamesgatz5301
    @jamesgatz5301 2 года назад +2

    The idea of cricket music is fucking hilarious

  • @rabbitguy337
    @rabbitguy337 2 года назад +1

    bizzle's bryan impression is spot on.

  • @cpt.marcusronaldthe3rd274
    @cpt.marcusronaldthe3rd274 Год назад

    The story of Sam's "ressurection" when Beastie Boys came on is absoloute gold

  • @jasonjavelin
    @jasonjavelin 2 года назад +1

    So a normal warm weather trip in 4 months? This content is great!

  • @joshdoucette4790
    @joshdoucette4790 2 года назад +1

    Hey! That's Bizzlesnaff! Cool podcast

  • @kennethoneal7026
    @kennethoneal7026 2 года назад +6

    Ok ok ok. Sam. My brother was born blind and I nearly had a meltdown as to the comment about Bryan method acting a blind person. Can confirm he wears shades and windbreaker (not only black)

  • @SomnambulistMist
    @SomnambulistMist 2 года назад +4

    Sam will have to take that L. Creator Clash was pretty great. There weren't any knockouts, but man did they fight.

  • @AcherontiaStyx
    @AcherontiaStyx Год назад

    Watching this after my own camping trip makes me feel like a much more competent woodsman.

  • @Xenibalt
    @Xenibalt 2 года назад +2

    hell yes to poob's idea of just going for a beach walk

  • @randlecavatassi492
    @randlecavatassi492 2 года назад +2

    Idk about u guys but I love Sam’s camping videos

  • @aaron4820
    @aaron4820 2 года назад +6

    1:52:57 the clash turned out to be so much more entertaining than I expected, I thought it was gonna be mostly untrained people swinging for half a round then gassing out for the remaining round but we had so many (mismatched) TKOs, and to be fair to the winners, they were only mismatched because they trained way harder than their opponents, not because of some previous training or other unfair advantages.

  • @shadoekoo
    @shadoekoo 9 месяцев назад +3

    I hope they do another camping trip

    • @maplecrew8991
      @maplecrew8991 4 месяца назад +1

      Lokey bro, it's been 5 years since he's hiked with his brother for a vid than this is 2 years ago. They talked about goin again a year later, ain't looking like it