Story 1: Reddit of all places kink shaming, oh the irony. Story 2: what a shitty family, op needs to divorce the moment she lied. Also op should go LC or NC with his parents and other family members who are on his wife’s side. Story 3: Idk Mark is the AH he lied from beginning to end. I don’t why people make judgments without info.
It's not kink shaming when the kink is brought out of the bedroom. When you indulge in a kink you need the consent of everyone in the proximity. It's highly inconsiderate to fo it 1 without op knowledge 2 in front of her sister then friend. Bet you wouldn't say that if he was having his kink at the dinner table but instead of her belly it was her breast or privates.
For the last one I'm surprised that no one on Reddit tried to understand cultural differences because even the bride's family seemed shocked by his behavior.
no they don't.they just asked him to invite his siblings which he did. like he said he doesn't have to be involved in the culture. and that's his right. just because it's a cultural things doesn't mean people in that culture has to follow it.also what culture involved having all your family involved with the wedding? that's not even a cultural thing it's sorta the norm with some families
Everybody on Reddit believes that western/American wedding traditions are the only ones in existence. Screw the other countries and their cultures and customs, right?
OP never states what culture they are apart of. I've seen various stories about wedding disputes. The ones that had "all the family" being involved were Indian and Asian. OP removing her original post due to shame makes me think OP is Asian. This is just my impression.
@@HeoBaby24he is not paying shit. I come from Indian heritage and more than half the wedding here are arranged. You either pay yourself to do what you want or listen and suck it up it not like people will understand this. Imagine you paying for your Daughter wedding for her to invite everyone then to not invite your other children or extended families. I seen this happen and parents end up not funding a single dime.
@@harinchetan4701 no one's foricj to her to pay for the wedding she can back out if she wants. still he has a right to make decisions on HIS WEDDING. sad that arranged marriages are still a thing. but to each their own. he has a right to make demands about his wedding. they don't like it back out then
Deleting text exchanges doesn't get you anywhere since there's always a way to get them. When I was in college, I was being harassed by one of my classmates and she deleted text messages on her end. Unfortunately, police said that even with evidence of the harassment from my phone, they needed to check her phone. She thought that since she deleted her text messages that she'd be scott free, but police got her phone did their magic on it, and found EVERYTHING.
Since no one's talking about the first one- While there are guys who have kink for that, unless he was all over her like he grew another pair, could he not be generally protective?? OP said he has kids already, and their ages aren't mentioned, so it's just natural to him. Not all men are are totally hands off during a women's pregnancy, and while some are still attracted to their during, it's not always in the way that would ake it a kink. (Though he did turn out to have one) I think too many are used to men being stand offish during this time till the spouse looks 'normal' again and forget some guys actually want to be involved and in a state of wonder at what's happening to their bodys whilst carrying new life (and its the funniest thing when it happens) before and after
THANK YOU!!!! Like it's not weird and shows that BF would love bomb OP if she were pregnant with his child. Reddit and Sis turned something completely innocent into something weird, creepy or pedo when it's not it's sweet.
Story 1, sister is a nut. She's jealous of OP. It's her body. If she doesn't mind, he can touch her belly. Her sister needs to get over it. I would never be a surrogate for her again.
knowing your brother as well as you do, did you honestly thought he paid even 1% for the wedding. he borrows money consistently but it never occurred to you that he could lie about paying out his own pockets
2nd story, I love when someone who is in the wrong tries to do a power play (wife saying we should call it quits) then the person who is wrong is like "bet" then the one in the ol wrong panics and starts backtracking like "I didn't mean it noooo"
Story 1, that was very odd but at the same time it ended very calmly., Story 2, i don't see why op entertained them, op should have allowed them to disown him and make sure to get it in writing, And if they try to complain afterwards not seeing the kids anymore, he can state "disowning me results in disowning your grandkids/nephew/niece so you should have chosen wisely, don't contact me again you made your choice.", Petty? Yes but needed? Definitely yes since they are ok with adultery and if they are aware ok with a adult treating kids poorly too (seriously her behavior towards those kids, for no reason like that don't sit right with me at all.), So naw op should have just let them do it, and cut contact with them permanently and got rid of her, because him and those kids deserve better then that bs.
The fact that not just the sister but other people completely uninvolved noticed and said what he was doing was unusual should have been a clear enough indicator the sister wasnt overreacting and it is weird that he was doing with someone elses unborn baby.
First story, if they both are happy, it's whatever, but feel the biggest issue with starting a relationship with someone with a pregnancy fetish while you are initially pregnant, will they still be around after giving birth? Would they just want to have you get pregnant again straight after? Muddies the waters a bit
2nd story, just got to be liek, if you want a chance of us working, you need to tell me the actual truth, if nothing happened, she wouldn't have so thoroughly deleted everything on her phone in that time span
last story. yah everyone except mark are aholes. he ain't forcing your mom to pay.your family is invited.yall ain't contributing a single cent to the wedding. the in-laws are paying too. so what's the problem? also what's with the whole "if you don't involve someone in your wedding it means you hate them" like wtf? why do everyone needs to be involved in order to show you don't hate them? again no one's forcing the mother to pay.op is leaving something out. because sure maybe mark an ahole for asking for money.but that's not his fault did he have a job? did he specifically take money from you? or just your parents? again not your wedding and not just your decision should be made
Story 1: Reddit of all places kink shaming, oh the irony.
Story 2: what a shitty family, op needs to divorce the moment she lied. Also op should go LC or NC with his parents and other family members who are on his wife’s side.
Story 3: Idk Mark is the AH he lied from beginning to end. I don’t why people make judgments without info.
Don’t you know? It’s only ‘kink shaming’ when it’s a woman. When it’s a man, then they’re just a perv. /s
It's not kink shaming when the kink is brought out of the bedroom. When you indulge in a kink you need the consent of everyone in the proximity. It's highly inconsiderate to fo it 1 without op knowledge 2 in front of her sister then friend. Bet you wouldn't say that if he was having his kink at the dinner table but instead of her belly it was her breast or privates.
For the last one I'm surprised that no one on Reddit tried to understand cultural differences because even the bride's family seemed shocked by his behavior.
no they don't.they just asked him to invite his siblings which he did.
like he said he doesn't have to be involved in the culture. and that's his right. just because it's a cultural things doesn't mean people in that culture has to follow it.also what culture involved having all your family involved with the wedding?
that's not even a cultural thing it's sorta the norm with some families
Everybody on Reddit believes that western/American wedding traditions are the only ones in existence. Screw the other countries and their cultures and customs, right?
OP never states what culture they are apart of. I've seen various stories about wedding disputes. The ones that had "all the family" being involved were Indian and Asian. OP removing her original post due to shame makes me think OP is Asian. This is just my impression.
@@HeoBaby24he is not paying shit. I come from Indian heritage and more than half the wedding here are arranged. You either pay yourself to do what you want or listen and suck it up it not like people will understand this. Imagine you paying for your Daughter wedding for her to invite everyone then to not invite your other children or extended families. I seen this happen and parents end up not funding a single dime.
@@harinchetan4701 no one's foricj to her to pay for the wedding she can back out if she wants.
still he has a right to make decisions on HIS WEDDING.
sad that arranged marriages are still a thing. but to each their own.
he has a right to make demands about his wedding. they don't like it back out then
S2: Failure on OPs part to confront without gatgering proof. Otherwise, the spouse will delete all evidence to start damage control, just like this.
Deleting text exchanges doesn't get you anywhere since there's always a way to get them. When I was in college, I was being harassed by one of my classmates and she deleted text messages on her end. Unfortunately, police said that even with evidence of the harassment from my phone, they needed to check her phone. She thought that since she deleted her text messages that she'd be scott free, but police got her phone did their magic on it, and found EVERYTHING.
The surrogate is doing her sister a huge favor and sister needs to check herself.
She's jealous and controlling
Since no one's talking about the first one- While there are guys who have kink for that, unless he was all over her like he grew another pair, could he not be generally protective?? OP said he has kids already, and their ages aren't mentioned, so it's just natural to him.
Not all men are are totally hands off during a women's pregnancy, and while some are still attracted to their during, it's not always in the way that would ake it a kink. (Though he did turn out to have one)
I think too many are used to men being stand offish during this time till the spouse looks 'normal' again and forget some guys actually want to be involved and in a state of wonder at what's happening to their bodys whilst carrying new life (and its the funniest thing when it happens) before and after
While it is ok to know he had a pregnancy kink, I originally thought he had desires of making his own child with her.
THANK YOU!!!!
Like it's not weird and shows that BF would love bomb OP if she were pregnant with his child. Reddit and Sis turned something completely innocent into something weird, creepy or pedo when it's not it's sweet.
Story 1, sister is a nut. She's jealous of OP. It's her body. If she doesn't mind, he can touch her belly. Her sister needs to get over it. I would never be a surrogate for her again.
Yeah, the boyfriend just touched her. That's it. The fact that the sister is being weird and thinking that her sister's body is her own is disturbing.
She's probably going to be doing the birthing ceremony from Handmaids tale
Bruh the third story just showed how brain dead reddit is like bro come on
knowing your brother as well as you do, did you honestly thought he paid even 1% for the wedding. he borrows money consistently but it never occurred to you that he could lie about paying out his own pockets
Fr that mom needs a reality check that son does not care about family he will leave the mom once she is out of money
2nd story, I love when someone who is in the wrong tries to do a power play (wife saying we should call it quits) then the person who is wrong is like "bet" then the one in the ol wrong panics and starts backtracking like "I didn't mean it noooo"
I shouldn’t kink shame, but actively expressed it in public is very creepy.
His mother shouldn't pay for the wedding then
Not the AH. Mark is entitled and a huge jerk. If he wants the wedding he wants he better pay for it himself
Story 1, that was very odd but at the same time it ended very calmly.,
Story 2, i don't see why op entertained them, op should have allowed them to disown him and make sure to get it in writing,
And if they try to complain afterwards not seeing the kids anymore, he can state "disowning me results in disowning your grandkids/nephew/niece so you should have chosen wisely, don't contact me again you made your choice.",
Petty? Yes but needed? Definitely yes since they are ok with adultery and if they are aware ok with a adult treating kids poorly too (seriously her behavior towards those kids, for no reason like that don't sit right with me at all.),
So naw op should have just let them do it, and cut contact with them permanently and got rid of her, because him and those kids deserve better then that bs.
The fact that not just the sister but other people completely uninvolved noticed and said what he was doing was unusual should have been a clear enough indicator the sister wasnt overreacting and it is weird that he was doing with someone elses unborn baby.
Story 2: LEAVE THAT ENTITLED COW. To hell with the the family disowning. Family wouldn’t want you to be miserable and disrespected.
Considering his word usage, the bf probably has an inflation fetish too.
Story one she should just leave people atound her basically calling him a creep anyways
If "culture" excuses being an AH, then all Americans are covered lmao!
I’ll never understand this bs thought that there’s unlimited privacy between spouses.
First story, if they both are happy, it's whatever, but feel the biggest issue with starting a relationship with someone with a pregnancy fetish while you are initially pregnant, will they still be around after giving birth? Would they just want to have you get pregnant again straight after? Muddies the waters a bit
2nd story, just got to be liek, if you want a chance of us working, you need to tell me the actual truth, if nothing happened, she wouldn't have so thoroughly deleted everything on her phone in that time span
Story 1: As soon as i heard he started dating a pregnant woman I knew where this was going…
1:37 ...uhhh, what?
last story.
yah everyone except mark are aholes. he ain't forcing your mom to pay.your family is invited.yall ain't contributing a single cent to the wedding.
the in-laws are paying too. so what's the problem? also what's with the whole "if you don't involve someone in your wedding it means you hate them" like wtf? why do everyone needs to be involved in order to show you don't hate them?
again no one's forcing the mother to pay.op is leaving something out. because sure maybe mark an ahole for asking for money.but that's not his fault did he have a job? did he specifically take money from you? or just your parents?
again not your wedding and not just your decision should be made
You do realize that different cultures have different traditions.
Maybe Mark is going against their cultures and their traditions
Cultural nuances.
Using that logic shouldn't he be kicked out of the the wedding because he hasnt even contributed a single cent?
@@juliearmfield2634 again just because you was born into doesn't mean you have to do jt
@@cytercrazy482 no because it's his wedding. it's not there wedding
Isn’t it funny no women are commenting about story 2
There you go. As a woman, ops wife is a b. Screw her
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