I think we'll see something similar to how slavery became uncool for economic rather than just ethical reasons for meat. If in vitro meat becomes competitive with meat from normal animals, there will probably be a MASSIVE shift away from normal meat, because it's no longer inconvenient to object to killing animals, and people will probably wonder how we ever thought killing animals for meat was ok (which is easy for them to say once they have an alternative and killing animals is no longer normalized in their culture)
I recently came upon your channel on my suggestions, I was curious and frankly, my curiosity did me well, you are great, amazing content, very passionate and sincere. Keep it up my friend
This video was fantastic! You really conveyed a passion for learning in a way that so many people just don't seem to be able to. Please don't ever stop.
Maybe you could share some tips or information on your reading, e.g. how you choose what to read next, do you read one book or several at the same time, how do you manage to read that much (reading schedule, ehm?) and etc. Since it seems you do quite a lot of qualitative reading I think a lot of people would be interested in this. Thank you for all your work!
I would recommend Enough: Discovering joy Through Simplicity and Generosity by Adam Hamilton. It is a very short read, but has a very interesting view points in my opinion. Also Jim & Casper Go to Church: Frank Conversation about faith, Churches, and Well-Meaning Christians by Jim Henderson.
thank you olly! your videos have reminded me why i was interested in philosophy in the first place. My course lecturers are such a drag, you really make me think! I'll be hanging around here from now on x
For texts on anarchism, might be worth reading Murray Bookchin's essay "Listen, Marxist!". Not quite a case for anarchism so much as an account of the main ideological differences between State-Socialism and libertarian-/anarcho-communism. Really good reading and especially helpful given, as you mentioned, the kind of impressions people get when they hear words like "anarchism", "communism" and "socialism". Also, Bookchin was just a fantastic writer and theoretician, and pretty much everything he wrote pre-90s is stellar stuff
One thing I've always pondered is how difficult, or how does it feel to be really intensly understood on philosophical views, like Anarchism/Marxism, and yet don't identify with them (So I am assuming). Its probably just me talking as one myself, but i'd find it really difficult to be proficient on far-left ideologies and pay them credit whilst not being far-left.
That has happened to me a fee times. I read something from a certain perspective and then things filter through that perspective. I think it is useful because then you can understand how different values determine interpretation of things. The ideas that become subconscious filters for understanding are the ones I think are most right in the individual's mind but that doesn't really have any bearing in what actually is right.
Well, I'm pretty liberal and the most influential political philosopher I find myself agreeing with is Rawls, but I've found myself reading a lot of Nozick's work for school and I rarely agree with him, but I can appreciate how intelligent his writing is. I think ultimately, it's a clash of values that it's very hard for philosophers to bridge. You have a point, and it's kind of sad to be honest; once your view of the world has formed, it's incredibly hard to alter it. It kind of makes philosophy seem futile.
I am so excited for you to talk about anarchism! The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS) is one of my favorite resources for it. Disclosure: I work for C4SS. ;)
Olly, love your videos. I recently read a book by Sean Carroll titled "The Big Picture". In it he makes the case for what he calls "Poetic Naturalism". I was wondering if you were familiar with this term (it seems like an original one attributed to Carroll) or what your thoughts are on his ideas. Thanks very much.
I don't normally watch these book videos but these sound great. The capitalism piqued my interest because I've recently been introduced to orientalism as Said put it. Anarchist theory would make an awesome video & I'm interested a lot in linguistics so I want to check that book out, I'd personally love to see a video on language I've read Derrida and some Heidegger but there are many other language philosophers I'd like to be introduced to
As a linguistics and anthropology student, I can add a little bit more about Daniel Everett and the Piraha that I've been able to learn through my studies. One, if anyone's curious, is the reason why Everett changed his beliefs. One of the reasons was because of the Piraha's worldview which puts heavy emphasis first-hand accounts. When Everett learned the language and began teaching the tribe about Jesus, their first question was if he knew Jesus personally. When he said no, they completely lost interest and stopped listening: "How can I believe anything you're saying about this guy if you've never even met him?" According to Everett, the Piraha don't have any deities among their beliefs, or anything supernatural other than spirits (based fully on first-hand accounts). On the linguistics side of things, a lot of Everett's discoveries about the language was put forward by him to challenge Noam Chomsky's theory of Universal Grammar and as support for the often rejected hypothesis of Linguistic Relativity. His claims and conclusions have remained controversial to this day, and uncorroborated because he was the only non-Native fluent speaker at the time and a lot of the unique peculiarities of the language he documented are likely to be lost now because of Brazil's attempts to educate the tribe in Portuguese (thus irreversibly influencing the native language). I only know about the subject through lectures and study assignments and I haven't read Everett's books fully so I definitely intend to check out your recommendation!
Hey! For the book on anarchism whats the writing like? I have read a few articles on the matter as well as "Anarchism " by Chomsky. I found they were kinda abstract and dense. I find the basic idea (a leaderless society or one without illegitimate authority) very interesting and before I delve into it further id like to know more about the branches and famous thinkers but I dont want to waste my time on another book that doesnt seem to engage with the reader. Its not so much is the book easy its more is it engaging and accessible? Thanks :)
Top-tier salaries, *plus* bonus even if you make negative profit. That's what I _hope_ they'll be shocked by Ollie. Though, Guantanamo Bay, solitary confinement, capitol punishment, rejection of asylum, circumcision, (and FGM, of course, but that's not as big a problem in the west) body shaming, gastric bands, liposuction, Botox injections, pre-school child care and maternity leave, fossil fuels (if not fusion reactors)!!! I'm reasonably certain that if civilisation hasn't collapsed to the point where we are no longer aware of these horrors in _our_ present, and their history, they _will_ be shocked and horrified to learn of. To be fair, my grand-daughters are horrified to think that, while there _was_ "internet" there was nothing equivalent to Google or spreadsheets that I could possibly have been taught when I was at school. Maybe they'll be horrified that we micro-blog our entire lives for any old hacker to pick up and destroy us with. Or maybe they'll be shocked that we go to bed without a camera watching over us and monitors at the police station and home office. Maybe they'll be shocked that we incarcerate criminals rather than simply reducing their status on social networks and devaluing their adsense. ("unpersoned") Just think how expensive everything would be if it weren't discounted by ad revenue, and if you aren't valued as a consumer of ads, you'd have to be exposed to many more of them to get the discount that makes living affordable. ;)
Science can predict and explain phenomena in a pragmatic, testable manner, while metaphysics isn't quite as practical or testable, but sure can be interesting.
Science: mostly falsifiable statements (although there are exceptions such as the science of Cosmology). Metaphysics: mostly undecidable statements -- mind/body duality, for example.
You've steered clear from Chomsky in all your videos, even though he has said incredibly important things on many topics you've raised, for example "the lesser of two evils" argument you entertained regarding the US election, consequentialism, intentionalism and also with regards to the question of knowledge. Now you've raised anarchism and language, but again, dont mention Chomsky, but you do raise the one book by the one author who purports to have found evidence refuting his language theory.
Because the US became independent so Britain's sugar colonies, such as Jamaica and Barbados, declined as America could trade directly with the French and Dutch in the West Indies. Furthermore, as the industrial revolution took hold in the 18th century, Britain no longer needed slave-based goods.
I'm not so sure about private property: How would you motivate people to better themselves and their society if they wouldn't benefit from it. (I just don't believe that we would really improve psychologically or neurologically... but I'm not ruling it out) But I'm totally on board on patriarchy and other oppressive structures.
August Heinrich Barbarossa So you're an ancap but you're also a feminist (or at least you're sympathetic to feminist ideas)... Never thought i'd see that before
I'm sure that Olly understands more about anarchism than 9 of 10 of the people you find in the internet (or real live for that matter). But I doubt that Olly is one, just from his other videos and some comment responses.
Well... at least people talk about it. But in truth, I'm much more positive that our children could be the last generation (in the west) which has governments forcing people to comply, if necessary at gun-point. I don't think the concept of government ist over yet, maybe this is not even necessary: Politicians could use a mixture of Kickstarter and Patreon to have the funding necessary to build and maintain projects they care for.
August Heinrich Barbarossa You know anarchism is left-wing right? Most are communists. Usually what you're saying i hear from right-libertarians but idk, just asking
Could we say people "blinded by greed" are promoting the "culture of power"? Like the need to show via money that they are more important than other humans? Or even that money is more important than other humans? And that the reason they stopped promoting slavery is because it made them loose their power over the economy?
I'm intrigued by this distinction, but I'm not sure why it would be an important distinction to make. How is "blinded by greed" different from "promoting the culture of power"? They both seem to imply the same thing, and are pretty much synonymous with each other. Still, I have a feeling you're getting at a really important distinction, and I'm either too dumb or too drunk to figure it out.
Were or are? Linguistics hides as much as it enlightens. Capitalism is and always was a metaphor for slavery. But what is the alternatives ? (The unfathomable language of the esoteric but free native, maybe?)
"Capitalism and Slavery" Is the book that made me go from ancap to anticap!
yo, you were never an ancap stop lying
I think we'll see something similar to how slavery became uncool for economic rather than just ethical reasons for meat. If in vitro meat becomes competitive with meat from normal animals, there will probably be a MASSIVE shift away from normal meat, because it's no longer inconvenient to object to killing animals, and people will probably wonder how we ever thought killing animals for meat was ok (which is easy for them to say once they have an alternative and killing animals is no longer normalized in their culture)
Hopefully it happens for climate change first
I wish you still did these book reviews. They make me really interested in reading and are kinda an inspiration.
Yeah me too. I know the format has changed a lot but mini book reviews in the liveshows could be nice.
Dr. Eric Williams was the first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago. We call him the father of our nation.
+Cerrone Samuel cool! His book is great!
I recently came upon your channel on my suggestions, I was curious and frankly, my curiosity did me well, you are great, amazing content, very passionate and sincere. Keep it up my friend
"Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.".... so many high-fives for that one. ;-)
This video was fantastic! You really conveyed a passion for learning in a way that so many people just don't seem to be able to. Please don't ever stop.
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Maybe you could share some tips or information on your reading, e.g. how you choose what to read next, do you read one book or several at the same time, how do you manage to read that much (reading schedule, ehm?) and etc. Since it seems you do quite a lot of qualitative reading I think a lot of people would be interested in this.
Thank you for all your work!
I really like that idea.
Amazing ideia
I love that you quote Star Trek: TNG so much! :)
I hope thoughtful people in the future will think we're savages. History does not guarantee social progress.
Each of these three sound really, really good.
I would recommend Enough: Discovering joy Through Simplicity and Generosity by Adam Hamilton. It is a very short read, but has a very interesting view points in my opinion. Also Jim & Casper Go to Church: Frank Conversation about faith, Churches, and Well-Meaning Christians by Jim Henderson.
Also i just want to say that I love the channel and all of your work!
Okay, you are so cool for referencing Next Gen.
thank you olly! your videos have reminded me why i was interested in philosophy in the first place. My course lecturers are such a drag, you really make me think! I'll be hanging around here from now on x
For texts on anarchism, might be worth reading Murray Bookchin's essay "Listen, Marxist!". Not quite a case for anarchism so much as an account of the main ideological differences between State-Socialism and libertarian-/anarcho-communism. Really good reading and especially helpful given, as you mentioned, the kind of impressions people get when they hear words like "anarchism", "communism" and "socialism". Also, Bookchin was just a fantastic writer and theoretician, and pretty much everything he wrote pre-90s is stellar stuff
Nantes, in France, was also built because of slavery, like modern Belgium!
One thing I've always pondered is how difficult, or how does it feel to be really intensly understood on philosophical views, like Anarchism/Marxism, and yet don't identify with them (So I am assuming). Its probably just me talking as one myself, but i'd find it really difficult to be proficient on far-left ideologies and pay them credit whilst not being far-left.
That has happened to me a fee times. I read something from a certain perspective and then things filter through that perspective. I think it is useful because then you can understand how different values determine interpretation of things. The ideas that become subconscious filters for understanding are the ones I think are most right in the individual's mind but that doesn't really have any bearing in what actually is right.
Well, I'm pretty liberal and the most influential political philosopher I find myself agreeing with is Rawls, but I've found myself reading a lot of Nozick's work for school and I rarely agree with him, but I can appreciate how intelligent his writing is. I think ultimately, it's a clash of values that it's very hard for philosophers to bridge. You have a point, and it's kind of sad to be honest; once your view of the world has formed, it's incredibly hard to alter it. It kind of makes philosophy seem futile.
He retweets socialist stuff on Twitter, I'm pretty sure he has left wing political views.
you are now hehe
I am so excited for you to talk about anarchism! The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS) is one of my favorite resources for it.
Disclosure: I work for C4SS. ;)
Kind regards to Anna then ;-)
Olly, love your videos. I recently read a book by Sean Carroll titled "The Big Picture". In it he makes the case for what he calls "Poetic Naturalism". I was wondering if you were familiar with this term (it seems like an original one attributed to Carroll) or what your thoughts are on his ideas. Thanks very much.
Modern slavery, or human trafficking, is still a huge problem.
I stopped telling people I was anarchist because I got tired of failing to explain it to people
I don't normally watch these book videos but these sound great.
The capitalism piqued my interest because I've recently been introduced to orientalism as Said put it.
Anarchist theory would make an awesome video
& I'm interested a lot in linguistics so I want to check that book out, I'd personally love to see a video on language I've read Derrida and some Heidegger but there are many other language philosophers I'd like to be introduced to
A great book I would like to recommend is: The end of arrogance: America in the global competition of Ideas
Capitalism and Slavery is no longer available as a free download unfortunately.
"it stopped being profitable"... outsourcing writ large to Chinese labor enclaves?
As a linguistics and anthropology student, I can add a little bit more about Daniel Everett and the Piraha that I've been able to learn through my studies. One, if anyone's curious, is the reason why Everett changed his beliefs. One of the reasons was because of the Piraha's worldview which puts heavy emphasis first-hand accounts. When Everett learned the language and began teaching the tribe about Jesus, their first question was if he knew Jesus personally. When he said no, they completely lost interest and stopped listening: "How can I believe anything you're saying about this guy if you've never even met him?" According to Everett, the Piraha don't have any deities among their beliefs, or anything supernatural other than spirits (based fully on first-hand accounts).
On the linguistics side of things, a lot of Everett's discoveries about the language was put forward by him to challenge Noam Chomsky's theory of Universal Grammar and as support for the often rejected hypothesis of Linguistic Relativity. His claims and conclusions have remained controversial to this day, and uncorroborated because he was the only non-Native fluent speaker at the time and a lot of the unique peculiarities of the language he documented are likely to be lost now because of Brazil's attempts to educate the tribe in Portuguese (thus irreversibly influencing the native language).
I only know about the subject through lectures and study assignments and I haven't read Everett's books fully so I definitely intend to check out your recommendation!
I truly love your speech ♥
I think in the future, people will look back at sweat shops with a similar disdain that we look at slavery today.
just watched that star trek episode.
Is the anthology about social anarchy, libertarianism, or both?
Good commentary.
Slavery never ended actually... it’s just been repackaged. Now people are “economic slaves”. Hopefully that anarchist book touched on this.
I love these videos
Hey!
For the book on anarchism whats the writing like?
I have read a few articles on the matter as well as "Anarchism " by Chomsky. I found they were kinda abstract and dense. I find the basic idea (a leaderless society or one without illegitimate authority) very interesting and before I delve into it further id like to know more about the branches and famous thinkers but I dont want to waste my time on another book that doesnt seem to engage with the reader.
Its not so much is the book easy its more is it engaging and accessible? Thanks :)
Because it's by lots of different authors it varies, but most are pretty accessible :)
Thanks! :)
I got capitalism and slavery last week!
It's the book that made me go from ancap to anticap!
It would make my day if Ollie responds to me.Oh btw would you make a video about the Philosophy of Horror movies?
*Olly
Already made it! It's called 'Why do we love horror?' I think
+Philosophy Tube Thank you.Love your work. I heard you starred in a video with octopuses too
Top-tier salaries, *plus* bonus even if you make negative profit. That's what I _hope_ they'll be shocked by Ollie. Though, Guantanamo Bay, solitary confinement, capitol punishment, rejection of asylum, circumcision, (and FGM, of course, but that's not as big a problem in the west) body shaming, gastric bands, liposuction, Botox injections, pre-school child care and maternity leave, fossil fuels (if not fusion reactors)!!! I'm reasonably certain that if civilisation hasn't collapsed to the point where we are no longer aware of these horrors in _our_ present, and their history, they _will_ be shocked and horrified to learn of.
To be fair, my grand-daughters are horrified to think that, while there _was_ "internet" there was nothing equivalent to Google or spreadsheets that I could possibly have been taught when I was at school.
Maybe they'll be horrified that we micro-blog our entire lives for any old hacker to pick up and destroy us with. Or maybe they'll be shocked that we go to bed without a camera watching over us and monitors at the police station and home office. Maybe they'll be shocked that we incarcerate criminals rather than simply reducing their status on social networks and devaluing their adsense. ("unpersoned") Just think how expensive everything would be if it weren't discounted by ad revenue, and if you aren't valued as a consumer of ads, you'd have to be exposed to many more of them to get the discount that makes living affordable. ;)
What is the difference between metaphysics and science?
Science can predict and explain phenomena in a pragmatic, testable manner, while metaphysics isn't quite as practical or testable, but sure can be interesting.
Science: mostly falsifiable statements (although there are exceptions such as the science of Cosmology).
Metaphysics: mostly undecidable statements -- mind/body duality, for example.
You've steered clear from Chomsky in all your videos, even though he has said incredibly important things on many topics you've raised, for example "the lesser of two evils" argument you entertained regarding the US election, consequentialism, intentionalism and also with regards to the question of knowledge. Now you've raised anarchism and language, but again, dont mention Chomsky, but you do raise the one book by the one author who purports to have found evidence refuting his language theory.
I've written about some of Comsky's work on the facebook page in the past
*Chomsky, haha
Any article recommendations for a succinct intro to anarchy/ism? Please let me know!
thank you, Anarchoblonde
why wasn't slavery profitable?
Because the US became independent so Britain's sugar colonies, such as Jamaica and Barbados, declined as America could trade directly with the French and Dutch in the West Indies. Furthermore, as the industrial revolution took hold in the 18th century, Britain no longer needed slave-based goods.
הה, הי ok
Can you do a video on romanticism?
I ask this because I have heard some very strange theories about civilization hurting mankind and madness being more valuable than reason.
Darmark and shalar at shinagra!
Have you ever read Jaron Lanier? I would love to hear your take :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaron_Lanier
04:50: I really hope that in 200 years people will laugh about us, because we forced people to pay taxes for things they didn't want to be funded.
Yeah, I don't think he was talking about taxes, but our current economic system aka capitalism and even more likely wage slavery.
he was talking about capitalism and wage slavery
I hope that in 200 years, people will be horrified at blind acceptance of private property, of patriarchy, and of all other oppresive structures.
I'm not so sure about private property: How would you motivate people to better themselves and their society if they wouldn't benefit from it. (I just don't believe that we would really improve psychologically or neurologically... but I'm not ruling it out)
But I'm totally on board on patriarchy and other oppressive structures.
August Heinrich Barbarossa So you're an ancap but you're also a feminist (or at least you're sympathetic to feminist ideas)... Never thought i'd see that before
5:23 That thing is probably gonna be animal agriculture and the exploitation of animals.
Daniel Everett's work on language has seriously challenged the Chomskian model of language. That might be interesting to explore.
You're an anarchist? Awesome!
I'm sure that Olly understands more about anarchism than 9 of 10 of the people you find in the internet (or real live for that matter).
But I doubt that Olly is one, just from his other videos and some comment responses.
I don't think he is. Maybe though
Anarchism is a bit of a meme-position on RUclips nowadays
Well... at least people talk about it.
But in truth, I'm much more positive that our children could be the last generation (in the west) which has governments forcing people to comply, if necessary at gun-point.
I don't think the concept of government ist over yet, maybe this is not even necessary:
Politicians could use a mixture of Kickstarter and Patreon to have the funding necessary to build and maintain projects they care for.
August Heinrich Barbarossa You know anarchism is left-wing right? Most are communists. Usually what you're saying i hear from right-libertarians but idk, just asking
eden is a tv show on channel 4 i think if every one was a anarchist that how we would live.
Could we say people "blinded by greed" are promoting the "culture of power"? Like the need to show via money that they are more important than other humans? Or even that money is more important than other humans? And that the reason they stopped promoting slavery is because it made them loose their power over the economy?
I'm intrigued by this distinction, but I'm not sure why it would be an important distinction to make. How is "blinded by greed" different from "promoting the culture of power"? They both seem to imply the same thing, and are pretty much synonymous with each other. Still, I have a feeling you're getting at a really important distinction, and I'm either too dumb or too drunk to figure it out.
"Were blinded by greed" ? Are blinded by greed!
Were or are? Linguistics hides as much as it enlightens.
Capitalism is and always was a metaphor for slavery. But what is the alternatives ?
(The unfathomable language of the esoteric but free native, maybe?)