English Folk Song - Oak, Ash and Thorn
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Oak, Ash and Thorn is an English folk song adapted from Rudyard Kipling's poem 'A Tree Song', which was included in his fantasy book Puck of Pook's Hill. Peter Bellamy set it to music in his album of the same name, the first of many Kipling-inspired albums that would become the signature genre of Bellamy's discography. The poem praises the oak, ash and hawthorn trees as the most useful and ancient trees of England, placing them above the yew, alder, beech, and elm trees in terms of utility and history.
Recording credit: Peter Bellamy, Oak, Ash & Thorn
This channel is dedicated to preserving the neglected culture of English folk songs in the form of short lyrical videos. The folk songs of the English have been overlooked compared to those of the other British peoples, something that this channel hopes to fix.
We should be taught these in school.
Sorry, no nationalist sentiments allowed
-hail diversity
AT LEAST IN HISTRY
@@AlbionSupreme Are you serious
Couldn’t agree more Cretin. These days it’s racist to be English. Imagine if they taught this our culture would stay alive
@@CalSprigley They seem to want us to maintain other cultures but not our own.
Can't believe there's no instruments in this song and it sounds so beautiful. Thank you.
Hmm, how odd I never noticed!
England have a wealth of folk songs and music
Rugby cricket tennis we have so much culture
For sure❤❤
Country and bluegrass music in the United States is largely descended from English folk music.
European culture being far superior to any middle eastern, African, South American, American, and most Asian cultures except for the japanese.
Based and oakpilled
What a great song. This is the sort of stuff we should be playing down the boozer with a beer!
I shall meet you. We shall drink. And we shall sing.
Rather over a cuppa tea old chap. Or some jolly old fish and chips.
Go for it 💯💪
I watched a program with an older friend of mine recently. It featured old footage of public house goers all singing together. Only two or three sung at first, before thise individuals suceeded in getting the whole pub to join them. They all knew the songs by heart because that's what the culture expected of them. People my age, unless they're lucky to have been raised by a certain ilk, have no intimate comprehension of that societal ethos.
I said to my friend, 'That's missing.'
He said, 'It is. It is.'
Didn't know we really had our own folk music. Well apart from stuff that's been absorbed into classical music, i.e. Vaughan Williams
We have so many but sadly a lot of our culture and history has been forgotten
it's sad
@@ulf5202 Under a certain leader in WW2, if the other guys had of won, like general Patton said so, then there would have been a massive resurrection of British folklore because he was he supported national traditions.
Instead since ww2 our culture has in every single aspect been completely wiped out and forgotten. Songs like these would have been sang in every single pub across the land....what now? Football and that's it. Enough to make an Englishman fall to his knees and weep!!!!!!!!!
@@TheWestIsDead no not really. What turned the tide was radio. Before radio, sing-songs in pubs, homes and gatherings kept the tradition. Anyone who liked music made some effort to learn to sing or play simple instruments. With radio, music became 'easier' more accessible. Instead of singing or repeating the same songs, you switched on the radio and listened to whatever commercial music was being played and listened to rather than participated.
Even the guy that lost listened to more Jazz until it couldn't reconcile with party politics. Within his own country, full repression of 'swingjugend' subculture as late as 1941 to protect the state sponsored folk revival was necessary... A ban of 6yrs wasn't enough as the youths were picking up foreign broadcasts and listening to smuggled shellac...
@@TheWestIsDead I’m amazed to find one fellow human being that knows the truth. I’m rejuvenated to find that 13 fellow human beings agree with him….
I love my history and culture ❤🏴
A poem by Rudyard Kipling (born in Myanmar) set to music by Peter Bellamy, the lead singer here. He committed suicide in the 90's. A great loss.
Joseph Rudyard Kipling was Born in Mumbai , India (British India at that time)
Get your facts right
you mean british burma
@@random_an0n no he was born in mumbai india … not burma/myanmar
Ugh, that's a shame, Rudyard kipling was a terrible person. Makes the song less enjoyable.
@seekingabsolution1907 Why do you think that he was terrible?
Thank you for this channel
Truly great!
Truly a masterpiece of English culture
Listen Pablo, I keep seeing you in these old ass songs, it's amazing
@@ejy2405 I am a Fan of Folk and Traditional music
Yes,you are right👍
If youre a fan of folk music, check out the playlist on my account
Please keep making these, I never even knew we had our own folk songs 😭😭😭💖
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Course we do! Wales has plenty too. I highly recommend Dacw 'Nghariad
t. zoomer that discovers that white countries existed before the Internet existed.
Don't listen to your teachers, white culture is rich and beautiful
@@oberschIesien I know we existed I just didn't know we had traditional folk songs still about 😬
@@hi-ve1cw I mean I meant ones that survived modern times and are now on RUclips but go off I guess 😂😂
Listen. No one understands the hold this video has on me. I legit listen to it every day. It brings me so much joy and its slowly becoming my favorite song/ youtube videos
sick dude
You might enjoy The Longest John's rendition of the song. It's one of my favourite songs
@@brendanbarnard This ones better
Thanks for this!
Just discovered that we also have folk songs from our ancestors. Thanks guys.
Alot of English country folk songs and traditions ended up in Appalacia!
@@Bella-fz9fyAnd they still survive there. Many people don’t know that they’re of English origin.
@harryhampshire4033 Not quite like that. What I meant is that English doesn’t have folk music in the sense that, since our language has spread all across the world, it has been used far and wide. Other languages spoken on this planet have their own folk music, often stemming from tribal origins and other influences. However, since English has spread so widely, it’s uncommon to hear someone say, “Oh, have you heard this English folk song? It’s nice.” I meant it in a global sense, where English folk music is less known or recognised.
English culture has influenced the world so deeply, it's sometimes unrecognisable.
@@Angelcynn_2001 agreed.
Great the poem or song allude the legend that London was found by Brutus descendant of Aenas of Troy, venture to Britain, establised Trinovantum
Hi, I'm trying to understand a couple parts of this poem and hoped someone might have an idea. I understand that in the second verse the old age of the trees is being emphasised. That "Ash of the loam" was there when the original buildings of London were made shows it's origin in Britain. However, what is meant by "ever Aeneas began"? Aeneas is an ancient Roman hero, but to say he "began" doesn't make sense and it seems it refers to an event or time period rather than an entity. I am also confused by "Brut was an outlaw man". The only reference about Brut I could find in relation to this is Layamon's Brut, a middle english poem also known as the chronical of Britain's history. But "Brut" is used in reference to the writing itself, rather than any character in it that could be classed as an outlaw. If it isn't this, what is that line referring to?
Hello! Both of those lines refer to an old legend that the descendants of Aeneas not only founded the Roman royal bloodline but also were the original stock from which the Britons emerged. In the legend, Brutus ('Brut' for short in this poem) wandered Europe after being exiled and eventually settled in Britain (whence comes the name of the island, 'Brut-tain').
@@englishfolkproject8817 I can add to this legend. I live in Devon, about 12 miles from Totnes on the River Dart, where there is the Brutus Stone, which is said to mark the spot where Brutus landed here. To this day there is a bridge over the Dart at Totnes which is known as the Brutus Bridge, even though it's a relatively modern construction.
@@englishfolkproject8817 Good grief! So the man who named our island ended up as an aftershave lotion.😗
So beautiful, feels like a whole different world.
This shit slaps!
I love it.
Today,
I thought of LISTENING ENGLISH FOLK SONG.
THIS IS THE FIRST ENGLISH FOLK SONG, I HAVE HEARD.
AS AN INDIAN, ENGLAND HAS A DARK HISTORY.
BUT I LOVE THIS SONG.
I'm an American from the beautiful catskill mountains in New York, and I too had the same drive this morning bringing me here!!!! I've come to find out I have saxon in me from England and Saxony so I've been exploring my English roots
there's a difference between the UK and England
England has a glorious history, might be dark from your perspective but for us English we brought the torch of civilisation all over the world and I for one am proud
@@tlee8600 simple as
@msmissy6888”civilised” ey? Don’t you mean we wiped out a lot of other cultures because we didn’t like them?
Beautiful
I come from Vietnam and I love this song
If I'm not mistaken this group is 'The Young Tradition', and the lead in this song is sung by a guy called Bellamy whose first name went completely out of my head as I was writing!
Great song, greeting from Turkey. I was looking up the trees' names to better understand the song but I'm not sure about 'Thorn'. Is there another name for it? I know Oak and Ash in my language but couldn't really find Thorn. Is it called 'Acacia' also?
Hawthorn! Thorn is a short name for it
@@englishfolkproject8817 thanks!
A thorn in English is a spike on a plant (like a rose) but in this case yes it is just short for hawthorn
Thought more likely Blackthorn as Hawthorn was called The Maybush in the past.
Acacia is an African tree I think, Hawthorn is more likely in this case. My sister had one in the house where we grew up in Sheffield, beautiful thing it was, small leaves relative to its size, spikes all over, pleasing shade of grey.
Thank you The Longest Johns for introducing me to this wonderful song.
I never cry.
But this brought a tear to my eye.
Yes bro 🥲
Iam from bd
as much as i like the longest johns version, this one just hits different.
May I return from where my family started…
Ay yo this shit slaps !!!
Yuh yuh yup ay yuh my man brut!!
i agree with you
This shit doth slapeth
As an American, I gotta say this song just hits different. It must be all that English blood in me.
There are more English folk songs than Scots, Irish and Welsh put together. English folk music is the originator of folk music, which has transferred to America.
how did you guys not know we had folk music, what about greensleeves?
Bardzo przyjemnie się tego słuchało.
Is this the modern version of Layamon's Brut?
I want to go conquer the holy land now, and eat a giant turkey leg in celebration of turning the Vikings away from my kingdom.
ᚪ ᚫ ᚦ
Beautiful 🩵
Masterpiece
Just wonderful
You might be interested in some of these traditional folktunes, which are set here for piano: ruclips.net/video/zy9egeFMMDQ/видео.html
I have been collecting and arranging folktunes (mainly English) for many years.
Hails to my folk, good tidings on midsomer.
I have been searching for my fist song to sing at a gathering, this might be it good sirs.
Of all the trees that grow so fair, old England to adorn
Greater are none beneath the sun than Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Yew that is old, in churchyard mould, he breedeth a mighty bow
Alder for shoes do wise men choose, and Beech for cups also
But when you have killed
And your bowl it is filled, and your shoes are clean outworn
Back you must speed for all that you need to Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Elm, she hates mankind and waits, 'til every gust be laid
To drop a limb on the head of him that anyway trusts her shade
But whether a lad be sober or sad, or mellow with ale from the horn
He'll take no wrong when he lyeth along 'neath Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Oh, do not tell the priest our plight
For he would call it a sin
But we've been out in the woods all night, a-conjuring summer in
We bring you good news by word of mouth, good news for cattle and corn
Sure as the sun come up from the south, by Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
All on a midsummer's morn
Surely we'll sing of no little thing
In Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
What is "ellum"? I could not find anything conclusive on the internet
The elm tree
@@englishfolkproject8817 thank you a lot!!
As a Latin person with a B2 in English I have no idea what this song says but damn it’s good
Ok so the first line means "The the largest (oldest) trees that cover old England are the Oak tree and the ash tree and the Hawthorn.". Adorn is another word for decorate or, cover with.
Oak (which grows in clay, the kind of dirt you make bricks from) was already very old when Aeneas (a mythological Trojan war hero who founded the ancestral people of the Romans) was born, Ash (which grows on Loam, a kind of earth composed of sand, silt and a small amountbof clay according to Google) was mature "when brut was an outlaw man" I presume this to be a reference to Robert of Loxley, one of the figures the legends of Robin Hood are attributed to. So that means, Ash trees were already growing when Robin hood was an outlaw. "Thorn of the down saw new Troy Town from which London was born" basically means there were Hawthorn or maybe Blackthorn trees growing on the downs (an area of hills in the south of England) when the settlement that grew into London was founded.
The next line is using older language like "hereby and ancientry"
But it means "by these words see that Oak and Ash and Thorn are very old."
"Yew that is old in church yard mould, he breedeth a mighty bow" means "The wood of Yew trees is good for making powerful Bows" followed by "Alder for shoes do wise men choose and beech for cups also" means beech wood is good for making cups and Alder wood is good for making shoes. The lines after that just mean but when you have those thinks, go back to Oak and Ash and Thorn. The next verse is saying that Ellum trees often drop branches when wind blows on them, but Oak and Ash and Thorn do not, and because of that, they are safe to sleep under.
Good song but Kipling was a mason.
Very charming!
Does anyone know the origin?
I wonder how long it will be until the Irish do a cover and then try take it as theirs
Bet you can’t give me an example of when that’s ever happened before?
@@jonnytennant640 green sleeves? Scarborough fair?
@@connorcoleman627 I've never seen an Irish person claim them two. They wouldn't need to anyways because they already have a rich folk culture.
@@tarosvan2253 look at the album ‘Celtic holidays’ it’s full of songs from England. Greensleeves being one of them.
@@jonnytennant640 Brighton Camp is a good example.
High Germany too.
So cool omg
What a wonderful project. Aside from making videos to preserve the music. Do you have it written out? Would be great to collect the songs and have them in musical notation complete with lyrics in book form.
Brazil love you Brasil te ama ❤️🇧🇷
Ey up mate? Want to go down t’ pub for a pint? Oh aye I got pissed last weekend but but I’ll do it again for me old mate!
Amazing voices ❤
chris recommended me this guys ❤❤❤
Who tf is Chris
Sounds like an ancient Ozzy Osbourne
I'm no musician, but this song screams out for a modern rock version!
Be careful for what you wish for
Beautiful music
Nice
that brought a tear to my eye, what a joy to hear such words sung. thak you
Nice. Love it.
English Nasheed.. Medieval Jihad music.. Either hate it or love it...
I'm on both side bruv
This is too hard to sing
Better then rap
Just keep trying in different ranges, thats what I did until I found what I was best in and practiced the shit out of it
find your range, you can do it
When we respected the nature and its gifts.
Thats so much great song 🎼🎵💝
Ch leg BRB by h much so do
What the hell is the singer's voice?
john bellamy. traditional folk voice
Trust me, i'm here because an anime.
pfft...
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Desert Rat Survival I approve
@@oscarosullivan4513 What has this video got to do with ireland
@@Dryhten1801 Nothing except trees such as Oak were holy and Ash is still used to make equipment for one of the oldest sports Hurling
@MsMissy What jealousy?
Your Anglophobia is showing again.
😭😭😭
I hate to say it, but i didn't like it much.
Literally no one cares
@@owinlaa He has the right to his own opinion, even though we enjoyed it.
@@skeptic781 well they didn’t have to comment? Just dislike the video and move on. Literally no one cares for anyones personal opinion
@@owinlaa And you could've just ignored his comment and moved on
@@skeptic781 you can tell how someone literally doesnt care, they dont leave a comment saying "literally no one cases" lol.. good point.
wake up brits, its time
It's too late the british government is full of traitors, and there are to many Muslims.