So glad somebody said it. Her calls are like nails on a chalkboard and you couldn't have put it any better. Her calls lead to zero excitement during a big play, where good broadcasters have the ability to hype up a moment before we know the outcome (namely no-doubters)
I think most of us lifelong baseball fans can do a better job, not even joking. Sure, maybe actually sitting there in the box on live TV comes with more nerves and responsibilities than you might expect. But it sounds very easy for me to narrate the game as I see it in front of me as a baseball fan who knows exactly what’s happening, how big each moment is, and has listened to so many broadcasts and understands what makes one good or bad.
My wife and daughter make me mute the game when she's calling. They both hate her. But the kid- Chris Caray has really kicked ass covering home games. Kuiper was a true student of the game and was a great broadcaster. It's a shame that the first woman broadcaster is this abysmal.
Well, Chris Caray comes from a bit of a line of great broadcasters. He's the son of now Cardinals broadcaster Chip Caray, son of Harry Caray... So it makes sense he'd be good at his job. Why they didn't make him the permanent broadcaster, I don't know.
@@omalleycaboose5937 I don't find Melanie's play by play all that great, but I think it's because of lack of reps (at least on the radio, can't speak for her tv stuff). She'll definitely get better. And in the mean time she adds a lot to the broadcast when she's doing color -- obviously knows the game, she's funny, the other play by play guys seem to really like her. Bright future for her.
As being hired as the first black manager in MLB, Frank Robinson was asked if it was a major step towards equality, and he said, "No. When I am the first black manager fired, THAT will be a major step towards equality."
That was a lot different though because 1: he was more qualified than basically everyone else on planet earth and 2: blacks obviously should have been hired earlier and were not due to segregation and racism completely different than the current case and I also believe he said something about being angry for no black managers having been hired before
This happened in the wwe once where Renee young was the most beloved interviewer and backstage microphone person. Eventually they made her the head announcer on Raw which crashed and burned
The tone of her voice is like nails on the chalkboard. Is she actually in attendance of the games or is she watching the televised broadcast on delay and commenting on it? “That ball is lined short left field…” ball lands 10 rows behind the fence 😂
@@dubvuchyea502 I think the problem is that higher pitched voices are not good for prolonged listening by human ears. Then when, say, Joe Buck was terrible and boring as an announcer for a long time, his voice wasn't nails on a chalkboard grating to hear. Whenever you have someone with a higher pitched voice, it's going to be judged more harshly.
The A’s are corrupted from the top down. And it’s all fishers fault. The A’s are one of the best franchises in history and this display is not shameful, but downright illegal feeling
Joe Davis' first season with the Dodgers he said, "Cody Bellinger, you are ridiculous!" then a long pause to let the crowd serenade him. And then Will he ever wake up?" as he touches home plate. That was during his rookie year while he was on a tear and hit yet another monster home run. Some folks are born to do it and some aren't.
Like I’ve said, this is what happens when you wrongfully fire your legendary commentator, I dare you to respond without mentioning how “if he can accidentally say it on TV, he may be actually like this behind closed doors”. WTF has our world come to to treat a man like this
In Canada we had a hockey announcer, Leah Hextall, who did play by play Canada wide for 1 season... she was just as bad and I don't recall her returning for a 2nd year. Everyone complained.
Freudian slip or not, the “n-word” word is remarkably close to “Negro” and would is consequently an easy mistake to make regardless. I really don’t think he should have been fired if that was truly the catalyst, even if he does or did use the word privately. Sincerely, a black guy
I personally find it just as awkward to say "negro" as the "n-word." They're both so cringy, I can easily see myself slipping up like that because I don't want to say either one.
I've said this before. The English language failed Glen Kuiper that day. Negro in Spanish is Black (color). So the fact that Spanish found land mass that was already populated and brought their words to the English language is what failed Glen Kuiper. Being the first anything has a lot of pressure to it, and a lot of hyper criticism to it. She is calling games for a team with so much non-field drama to it that it's tough to go into work and be as excited as possible to call baseball games on the field.
Hate is being used too lightly here. I am a lifelong A’s fan, so this is my take on Jenny. Chris Caray and Dallas Braden are in my opinion the far superior options for broadcasting we have. I think Jenny is a DEI hire and her calls are often cringeworthy. That said, we don’t HATE her. She is a human being, and one who I’m sure has worked hard to get her job. So while I don’t like her calls, she is still a representative of my team and I don’t appreciate people saying they HATE her for something that has nothing to do with her character.
Perfect example is Suzyn Waldman - she’s been broadcasting Yankee games on WFAN radio for nearly 20 years beside the great John Sterling. She’s a great broadcaster and I honestly couldn’t imagine Yankees games without hearing her. It’s not about her gender, it’s about her ability to call the game well.
MLB made me listen to the A's announcers instead of the legendary Don Orsillo for a whole series. There aren't even any A's fans watching and I'm sure they would rather have the Padres announcers
Like many in his position, he just oozes contempt for the peasants who fill his bank account. He inherited Mommy and Daddy's fortune (founders of The Gap), grew up suckling on the teat of entitlement and probably jerks it to a poster of Emperor Palpatine. But I'm sure he loves puppies and little old ladies.
thank you for shining light on this, watching my A’s is cringe at times with her play calling, she has no real enthusiasm or passion calling plays. when they hit a home run, she talks like she is reading off a teleprompter with no energy it’s so lame. if glen kuiper can’t be the guy anymore, at least have chris caray be the permanent new guy he’s way better at this than jenny
It almost sounds like fake smiling when she’s talking, fake excitement. It’s like she’s not truly present and not really understanding the game in front of her and why a moment is exciting or not, therefore it doesn’t seem genuine.
Think she's bad? Try listening to an O's game when Melanie Newman is in the booth. It's clearly a DIE (yeah I typed that purposely) hire, and anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.
In the second clip ("even-up game"), Jenny clearly forgot the name of the runner coming in to score. Suzyn Waldman has been doing Yankees games since *2005* . You can't tell me there aren't THOUSANDS of women in Oakland who can do a better job.
No, he's a coward who didn't stand up for his partner who clearly made an honest mistake and he looks like a bum. He looks like he comes straight from one of those Oakland homeless camps every day. He looked like a normal human being when he pitched.
Jenny Cavnar did a couple of games when she was with the Rockies, and every time she did it I didn't think she did that bad of a job. It wasn't the best, but I was fine with her doing it every once in a while. Hate to say it, but it's been pretty bad this season 😅
Beth Mowins called a Chicago Cubs telecast a few years ago as a fill-in announcer, and she was an infinitely better announcer than Jenny Cavanar ever could be. I'm 100% certain that Cavanar was hired because the A's couldn't find anyone else to do play-by-play for the lame-duck season in Oakland; she sounds like an AI chatbot trying to do sports commentary, to be honest.
@@matthewbaxter6992: I agree. I've watched a few A's with this lady. Her voice is grating, whereas John Schriffin from my White Sox comes off as annoying.
That day when her and the Astros had both women calling the games, the Astros caller Julia Morales didn't have these issues and was calling the game like a person who understood the game would. Then you Oakland's announcing team, and she is really bad at her job.
Jason Benetti's calling (alongside Steve Stone of course) was the most redeeming aspect of the team in its crash and burn. Without him, and the return to mediocracy in John Schriffen as his replacement has left me without any motivation to watch. I'd watched near daily for much of the last 8 years, I haven't watched them live since opening day this year.
@@Brandon-im9wj the new announcer is fine in that he's a fan that thinks his team is the best, like Hawk. Jason benetti was boring and puts you to sleep. At least you'll laugh here and there with the new announcer
I’m a Colorado Rockies fan and I’m not surprised by these critiques. Jenny Cavnar would fill in for our regular play by play announcer occasionally, so I saw this coming a mile away!
As you alluded to at the end of the video, she does seem like she can become pretty good at her job over time. I think the positive spin you included at the end of this video must not go unnoticed.
4:39 Listening to her doesn't sound like I'm watching a MLB game, it sounds like a college or minor league game. Her home run calls and enthusiasm is lackluster, as the example in the video showed. The A's already had that underdog vibe and the Oakland coliseum had a college like atmosphere before but now even on TV with her broadcasting, it's reached another low. 6:22 That Siri shot she took was terrible and I'm glad Siri hit that homer. It was very amateur sounding. How is it not his night, he was 1 for 3 with a homer earlier, he wasn't like 0 for 3 with 3 strikeouts lol
Give Jenny a few years to feel it out. A lot of folks in Baltimore didn't like Melanie Newman calling games for the O's on MASN or on WBAL Radio when she first started out in 2020, but she has improved drastically in my opinion since then in calling plays with emotional relevance and understanding situational baseball.
I dunno what you're hearing, because Newman is bland, boring, and clearly a checkbox hire. Every time she's on the radio call, I go right to the TV play by play. There are much better female announcers in sports, and she's not one of them.
Lol what are you on about? She is awful, I just heard her today. The O's and Yanks each use some dyke-y broad for radio. Into the trash it goes. I'm so glad the Reds won't try to pull this shit anytime soon; there are too many northern Kentucky Boomers who would storm GABP and throw someone into the Ohio River. But it's coming and before long your favorite team will have a he-she in the booth with a rainbow microphone.
I’ll be honest I think it’s hilarious, don’t even like baseball but I’d listen to hear her figure it out. Woman haven’t been doing this for years and the 2 examples we saw are clear women trying to learn how to talk sports. Let’s encourage them and they’ll get better.
So I’m a padres fan and the pads just finished a 3 game series with the A’s today, and I believe she sounded fine, and is getting better. I think she just needs time to learn and keep improving. It’s like how you don’t expect a rookie to be great their first year, they just have to learn and develop, and that’s the same case for Jenny. She hasn’t done any play by play announcing before at the big league level, so she just needs to learn and develop, just like how we need to adapt to stuff too. Once she gets rid of the little bits of cringy announcing, (or at least knows when the right time is to throw a joke in), and cleans up some other things, I think she’ll be fine. It’s cool that she’s doing this and I wish her the best. ⚾️
Did we watch the same series? Man these calls are brutal, she needs to go. Not getting better at all lol, she doesn’t deserve to be on a major league broadcast team.
You’re comparing rookie players to “rookie” announcers? I played baseball until I graduated college and watched a ton of it and I know for a fact I could call the game better and I have never touched a mic in my life. You don’t get things like evened up or the score drastically changed from a solo home run in a 0 to 0 game early on if you just clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Or the long home run bomb anybody should know that isn’t watching the game that it was a no doubter not one that just got over the fence, if she cant tell when a ball is clobbered already there’s little hope it’s not like she’s not been around baseball before. Poor Kiuper, twenty years broadcasting and very good at it and well liked and one slip up that he clearly did not mean to say and he’s just gone and replaced with this
I was looking for the other videos you made about rookie announcers that aren’t good. Why aren’t there any? Is there something different about this one?
Same reason he doesn't mention the female announcers that are liked by their fan bases. He once put up a video about the first female to get to coach on the field (1B in SF last season) and said 'women have no place in baseball'. The comments were turned off (notice in this video he criticizes the A's for that) so I made sure to comment in the next video. He denied he said it but deleted the video that day. Same reason he defends accidental slurs. Dude has an axe to grind about what he feels are quota hires.
Whats worse, Sox fan or A's fan? And I know I will be called a sexist for this but I cant stand that announcer either. Its her voice, its so grating, it reminds me of a teacher. She just doesnt have the voice for the profession. I have nothing against her actual commentary or anything personally as I havent listened to enough games really to have an opinion on that part.
On Jenny's first game ever or one of her first, Julia Morales, a reporter for the Astros also did the play by play for Astros broadcast for a game in Houston against Oakland. While she did a satisfactory job, and i imagine anyone might have seen her as just okay, she had a moment I thought showed some potential. When Bregman hit a homer, she has a neat phase staying, "You can say goodbye to that baseball, ya'll!" Unlike Jenny, I felt Julia really brought in the energy. Perhaps with time, she can become a PbP announcer or something simular, but one way a good announcer can get people's attention is to have that ability to amplify the moment. Gus Johnson in college football is a great example of that. But yeah, there can be great women who can announce events, but everyone needs to be qualified, prepare, and develop the skills necessary to enrich the event experience.
7:25 I normally would agree, as I'm not a big social-issues kinda guy, but I do think there's a ton of misogyny when it comes to women in any area of sports. Perhaps misogynists are just the most vocal, but any post on ESPN or Sportscenter regarding a woman covering or coaching men's sports seem to have an absurd amount of disparaging comments. Always annoyed me because I've worked a lot covering and broadcasting sports and have known some amazingly talented and passionate women in the field. Especially in the past, I think it's important to recognize, because women like Suzyn Waldman I think deserve credit for being courageous and passionate enough to pursue careers in Men's sports despite very frequent misogyny and undeserved criticism
I do agree with a lot of that. I personally would feel awkward if I were a woman working around a bunch of men. Some who prob wouldn't look at me other than a sex object but lots of people, men too along with women play victim now and don't take responsibility for not doing their job. For example, not sure if you're into Star Wars but the director of the newest show is very clearly prioritizing irrelevant things other than telling a good story and in turn is getting slandered for it. Because she's a woman? No, because she's not doing a good job to a product people loved. I think both things can be true. There's still sexism for sure or at the very least guys who only view women sexually in a work place but it's not everyone and there's other issues as well
@@iTalkStudios 100% agreed. But you're more focusing on harassment/sexism within the workplace, which of course is an issue. Of course, we both agree that people should be judged by their performance, and hired due to their competency I was more getting at the general attitudes of guys when it comes to women in the field of men's sports specifically. Not necessarily that they look at women too sexually, but they criticize their performance, ability, and worthiness much more, purely because of their gender Example that comes to mind is the needless backlash last year when a woman started coaching that minor league team in Tampa When women are afforded roles they don't deserve like the A's announcer, or last year with that AWFUL female kicker on a D3 college football team, it leads to more skepticism and criticism of women that are genuinely worthy of their positions - which I also think is a big problem with this as well
This is how you criticize… I love your videos but this one you handled perfectly. I don’t think she is great either, but only because she isn’t and not due to external factors. Ending the video with the fact that she is listening to criticism ,and ( maybe) changing and thus giving credit for that, is the right move. This is how you talk about issues like this just using the facts. Keep making great content, I’m stoked to watch each and every video. Now make a video about how the red Sox’s suck but they kinda don’t and how they are exceeding expectations with the current rooster full of injuries and rookies while also blowing games with the most boring baseball ever constantly just to soothe my wounded heart please….
He once put up a video about the first female to get to coach on the field (1B in SF last season) and said 'women have no place in baseball'. The comments were turned off (notice in this video he criticizes the A's for that) so I made sure to comment in the next video. He denied he said it but deleted the video that day. Same reason he defends accidental slurs. Dude has an axe to grind about what he feels are quota hires.
The Jose Siri call from her was pretty brutal😔. I remember watching that game like why would she say that when he already hit a Hr that night and Yesterday.
Idk if anyone's brought this up before, but she's literally a high pitched Joe Buck And people put up with that nepo baby for 2 decades. He even got his "best calls" highlights on youtube ffs, and got inducted into the HoF on other sport Give her time
Can you say DEI? One of the worst ideas ever. Now let’s see how long before RUclips deletes this and I’ll probably get a 24 hour ban from writing comments. The best person for the job should be who gets it period
"Coming in home and how about we have ourselves an even up game." I'm not sure an announcer having a stroke would say those words in that order talking about a baseball play. I think the favorite color is green trees was actually original.
I don't get why someone whose entire career consists of his ability to speak extemporaneously in a smooth and continuous manner deserves a pass for saying what he said. As far as "the most HATED announcer" title you have bestowed on Jenny Cavnar - there are many who disagree with you. That "changes the score drastically" thing you seem hung up about - where is the lie? Did the score change by more than one run? Did she seem incredulous? No. She just noted it. Apparently that was worthy of the title of this piece. Then, at 6:01, we have it all laid out for your viewers. There we have it. If you covered football I'm sure we would be blessed with the Harrison Butker explanation piece.
Because it was an accident and he immediately apologized, which is never enough for you woke Marxist trolls. I guarantee you've said far worse based on your arrogance and obsession with destroying this man.
Well,he’s an athlete,a former member of the team,and she’s a first year announcer looking around at a nearly empty stadium,and wondering how many people are actually tuning in and listening.Can’t be easy.And she’s gotta share a booth with Sasquatch.
You earned a sub for that take. Very well said on just about everything without insulting or demeaning her. You are correct in that we should hire people who are the best for the job. She clearly has not been good at commentary. I'm a Phillies fan and we have good announcers so my expectations are a bit higher but my point still stands
I'm sure every other rookie announcer is getting the same amount of judgemental eyes as this one. Surely if there was any other rookie that made any type of mistake, you would have made a video about it by now
There’s obviously going to be a lot more scrutiny with one of the first female play-by-play announcers, but the internet has just been cruel towards her 😂. iTalk has been no better
I love the calls from Chris carry the play-by-play guy on the local station watching the A’s. He’s the son of Skip Carry (voice of the Cards) and grandson of Harry Carry.
What’s weird is that there have been a ton of very qualified women that haven’t gotten broadcasting job because of their gender. I went to sports broadcasting camp when I was younger, it was really interesting. There’s clearly hella sexism in the industry. Knew hella qualified n respectable women there that had many rly rly rough experiences in the male dominated field. It’s so strange that a woman finally got a shot.. and she’s genuinely awful. Like this was clearly a diversity hire.. but there’s so many people that are both qualified and not men. This whole thing is so strange..
Lucky for me that I now live in Minnesota and don't have to listen to Oakland baseball (though even when I lived in Oakland it was hard to find A's baseball) but I do miss Glenn Kuiper. I don't know him personally but I can't imagine that he uses that word casually. To end a person's career like that is a crying shame. The A's have been my favorite team my whole life and now I just can't do baseball.
As you pointed out, the problem has never been that she's a woman, but that she's just not a great broadcaster. I don't watch the A's broadcasts but I'm glad to hear that she is taking the criticism and getting better. And you are spot on with how she is handling the criticism, at least publicly. I truly hope she becomes a phenomenal broadcaster.
This is clearly a bot. Comment makes no sense in comparison to the video. It still has "4' likes. Don't believe everything you see on YT people. Do your own homework and check it twice. With the election around the corner it's gonna be bad
Albert Einstein said that John fisher is apart of the 70% of viewers not subscribed
And do you really wanna be like John Fisher?
@@iTalkStudiosno king
@@iTalkStudios I mean, you’re not really funny and meh with videos. Always liking Fuzzy for baseball stuff/news.
I am too I never subscribe to anyone who begs for it at the beginning of every video.
@@nicemarmot.5353 you’re just so cool for that honestly
“And that changes the score drastically.”
Wait until she finds out you can score more than 1 run on a homer.
Interestingly, she just said that. She didn't sound incredulous or surprised. She stated a fact.
@@jameskaihatu6209 the score changing “drastically” was not a fact
@@troublemanjermfuck is that guy talkin about lol
@@LildreProds81 lmao bro i’m saying
Clearly she was speaking in pure mathematical terms since 1 is an ♾️ % increase over 0
The worst part of the Siri clip is he hit a hr earlier in the game
Yikes 😂
HEY SIRI ITS NOT YOUR NIGHT
When he hit the HR, he clapped his hands and probably said “Hey Jenny, it is my night😂”
no way she said that after he already established it was his night
@@stonedwolf420 definitely wasn’t. Only hit 2 home runs
I’m convinced they have her announce games so that Oakland fans will stop watching.
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My thought as well. It will go to their point of why it’s good to move.
It's all part of the humiliation ritual.
We have…
Absolutely
"Even up game" made me laugh way harder than it should've
It's up there with Arod's line of "You always want even leads vs odd leads".
Mann. My 8 year old self. Hell my 18 year old self now can call a better game than her😭we probably all can
So glad somebody said it. Her calls are like nails on a chalkboard and you couldn't have put it any better. Her calls lead to zero excitement during a big play, where good broadcasters have the ability to hype up a moment before we know the outcome (namely no-doubters)
So she went to the school of Joe Buck?
She is so bad watching highlights on MLB at bat I just wanna put shit in my ears
@@jbj7599 yes
I think most of us lifelong baseball fans can do a better job, not even joking. Sure, maybe actually sitting there in the box on live TV comes with more nerves and responsibilities than you might expect. But it sounds very easy for me to narrate the game as I see it in front of me as a baseball fan who knows exactly what’s happening, how big each moment is, and has listened to so many broadcasts and understands what makes one good or bad.
"So glad somebody said it."
Well, in the video he said that she received A LOT of criticism...
My wife and daughter make me mute the game when she's calling. They both hate her. But the kid- Chris Caray has really kicked ass covering home games. Kuiper was a true student of the game and was a great broadcaster. It's a shame that the first woman broadcaster is this abysmal.
Melanie Newman in the Os team I think does a great job
Well, Chris Caray comes from a bit of a line of great broadcasters. He's the son of now Cardinals broadcaster Chip Caray, son of Harry Caray... So it makes sense he'd be good at his job. Why they didn't make him the permanent broadcaster, I don't know.
@@omalleycaboose5937 I don't find Melanie's play by play all that great, but I think it's because of lack of reps (at least on the radio, can't speak for her tv stuff). She'll definitely get better. And in the mean time she adds a lot to the broadcast when she's doing color -- obviously knows the game, she's funny, the other play by play guys seem to really like her. Bright future for her.
@@Ariana321Actually Chip is the son of Skip, and Skip is the son of Harry. But yes, all great broadcasters!
Chris is awesome. Such a natural like his father and grandfather.
She commentates like she’s on the post game show calling the highlights
😂😂😂
As being hired as the first black manager in MLB, Frank Robinson was asked if it was a major step towards equality, and he said, "No. When I am the first black manager fired, THAT will be a major step towards equality."
That was a lot different though because 1: he was more qualified than basically everyone else on planet earth and 2: blacks obviously should have been hired earlier and were not due to segregation and racism completely different than the current case and I also believe he said something about being angry for no black managers having been hired before
@@Richardtherat-t2d Way to miss the point
@@phillipmorris1875 way to not read the entire thing I said
@@Richardtherat-t2d I did and it was dumb just like you
@user-os6ps1ls3s stop virtue signaling.
Just because you’re the first doesn’t mean you’re good.
Yep. I thank Danica Patrick for that lesson in reality.
@@ralph8677she wasn’t even the first lol
The worst part of all this is she was a great field reporter in San Diego and Colorado. I don’t think being lead broadcaster is her thing.
This happened in the wwe once where Renee young was the most beloved interviewer and backstage microphone person.
Eventually they made her the head announcer on Raw which crashed and burned
i’ve said this numerous times. some people are cut out to be in the booth, some are not. her field is to be a field reporter
Like Jamie Little in NASCAR. Great pit reporter, but HORRBLE play-by-play!
@@justinspivey8086 good comparison
The tone of her voice is like nails on the chalkboard. Is she actually in attendance of the games or is she watching the televised broadcast on delay and commenting on it? “That ball is lined short left field…” ball lands 10 rows behind the fence 😂
I don't say this out of sexism, but I have yet to hear a female broadcaster who's voice isn't awful calling the game.
@@dubvuchyea502 I think the problem is that higher pitched voices are not good for prolonged listening by human ears. Then when, say, Joe Buck was terrible and boring as an announcer for a long time, his voice wasn't nails on a chalkboard grating to hear. Whenever you have someone with a higher pitched voice, it's going to be judged more harshly.
Hey Siri: Find Oakland a new broadcaster.
She sounds like a cheesey radio dj. Like she tried to add enthusiasm and excitement to her normal speaking voice but just ended up sounding fake.
The A’s are corrupted from the top down. And it’s all fishers fault. The A’s are one of the best franchises in history and this display is not shameful, but downright illegal feeling
I think the word you were looking for is "criminal."
Fisher needs to take a trip to the rack
Fisher is a demonic jew.
She makes the "boom goes the dynamite" guy look like Vin Scully
And atleast with that guy it was of his first broadcasts and it was at like 3 in the morning after a full day of classes.
They put that sound bite as an option in MLB 2022 The Show for an option for the announcer to say
Joe Davis' first season with the Dodgers he said, "Cody Bellinger, you are ridiculous!" then a long pause to let the crowd serenade him. And then Will he ever wake up?" as he touches home plate. That was during his rookie year while he was on a tear and hit yet another monster home run. Some folks are born to do it and some aren't.
Like I’ve said, this is what happens when you wrongfully fire your legendary commentator, I dare you to respond without mentioning how “if he can accidentally say it on TV, he may be actually like this behind closed doors”. WTF has our world come to to treat a man like this
It’s like hearing Jojo Siwa call a game….😭
Or Taylor Swift
@@RetroJR3379I kinda hear it.
@@Struzzzmann She can be both PBP & color commentator
In Canada we had a hockey announcer, Leah Hextall, who did play by play Canada wide for 1 season... she was just as bad and I don't recall her returning for a 2nd year. Everyone complained.
Freudian slip or not, the “n-word” word is remarkably close to “Negro” and would is consequently an easy mistake to make regardless. I really don’t think he should have been fired if that was truly the catalyst, even if he does or did use the word privately.
Sincerely,
a black guy
I personally find it just as awkward to say "negro" as the "n-word." They're both so cringy, I can easily see myself slipping up like that because I don't want to say either one.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
A honky.
@@dwaneanderson8039 Same here. I'd be embarassed to say either lol
I've said this before. The English language failed Glen Kuiper that day. Negro in Spanish is Black (color). So the fact that Spanish found land mass that was already populated and brought their words to the English language is what failed Glen Kuiper.
Being the first anything has a lot of pressure to it, and a lot of hyper criticism to it. She is calling games for a team with so much non-field drama to it that it's tough to go into work and be as excited as possible to call baseball games on the field.
Ok convinced they found something really bad in that investigation bc no other way they would have fired him
It's like someone who doesn't care about baseball is trying to announce the game 😂 that's the most I can say while still being nice
"There's a long hit way up in the air! It's,over the fence! Do they have another ball? Golly!"
I cringed hearing this
LOL.
Did they tell her that, yes, the umpire has several baseballs?
5:24
That college game was her😂
Hate is being used too lightly here. I am a lifelong A’s fan, so this is my take on Jenny. Chris Caray and Dallas Braden are in my opinion the far superior options for broadcasting we have. I think Jenny is a DEI hire and her calls are often cringeworthy. That said, we don’t HATE her. She is a human being, and one who I’m sure has worked hard to get her job. So while I don’t like her calls, she is still a representative of my team and I don’t appreciate people saying they HATE her for something that has nothing to do with her character.
“Hey siri it’s not your night” one pitch later a tank
Perfect example is Suzyn Waldman - she’s been broadcasting Yankee games on WFAN radio for nearly 20 years beside the great John Sterling. She’s a great broadcaster and I honestly couldn’t imagine Yankees games without hearing her. It’s not about her gender, it’s about her ability to call the game well.
waldman is an annoying asshat douchebag in person though
MLB made me listen to the A's announcers instead of the legendary Don Orsillo for a whole series. There aren't even any A's fans watching and I'm sure they would rather have the Padres announcers
I'm an A's fan and I watch the opposing team's broadcast when I catch a game because she is so incompetent at announcing.
Luckily they have since fixed that and it hasn't happened again
Don and mud are the goats of announcing 🔥 go pads
I fuckin miss don on the Boston broadcast. He and Remy were the best announcers I’ve ever heard.
I’m a padres fan we love don and mud
John Fisher looks like the farmer from MIB after the alien took his skin and wore it as a skin suit
Like many in his position, he just oozes contempt for the peasants who fill his bank account. He inherited Mommy and Daddy's fortune (founders of The Gap), grew up suckling on the teat of entitlement and probably jerks it to a poster of Emperor Palpatine. But I'm sure he loves puppies and little old ladies.
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"I need shekels... And lox."
-Edgar Fisher
Also Jenny was well liked in Colorado. She was very good as a reporter and wasn't bad when she did the odd game as an announcer
Completely literally, she sounds just like me announcing Super NES baseball games when I was 12 before my voice changed.
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thank you for shining light on this, watching my A’s is cringe at times with her play calling, she has no real enthusiasm or passion calling plays. when they hit a home run, she talks like she is reading off a teleprompter with no energy it’s so lame. if glen kuiper can’t be the guy anymore, at least have chris caray be the permanent new guy he’s way better at this than jenny
It almost sounds like fake smiling when she’s talking, fake excitement.
It’s like she’s not truly present and not really understanding the game in front of her and why a moment is exciting or not, therefore it doesn’t seem genuine.
DEI hire. Stop walking around the reason why she was hired. Gotta secure those loans with an ESG score.
Exactly. Call a spade a spade.
White mediocrity
Think she's bad? Try listening to an O's game when Melanie Newman is in the booth. It's clearly a DIE (yeah I typed that purposely) hire, and anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.
Melanie Neuman for the orioles is legit. She not an everyday paly by play though.
Melanie's bad too. I've seen her call rutschman Santander during a game and botch calls
In the second clip ("even-up game"), Jenny clearly forgot the name of the runner coming in to score. Suzyn Waldman has been doing Yankees games since *2005* . You can't tell me there aren't THOUSANDS of women in Oakland who can do a better job.
Waldman isn’t a PxP though she’s an analyst and she’s decent I think. Beth Mowins is good and might be a solid choice if she wanted to do baseball.
Dear god, she sounds exactly like Leah Hextall.
So brutal.
Chris “Cur-RAY” lol. I used to listen to his great grandfather, Hurry Curray, announce Cubs games.
Hahaha well played.
Dallas Braden is actually a great broadcaster and he loves the team we need a better play by play broadcaster
No, he's a coward who didn't stand up for his partner who clearly made an honest mistake and he looks like a bum. He looks like he comes straight from one of those Oakland homeless camps every day. He looked like a normal human being when he pitched.
All aboard!
Her announcing sounds so bland and meh. Hopefully, Jenny gets better at this, but if she doesn't, someone else needs to take over. Wish her the best.
That voice it’s likely
I didn’t realize she’s the one that made the Siri call 😂. That shit was horrible 😂
The funniest part is that at 5:30 the call is actually from the same woman. She has been bad for years and still got this job
Jenny Cavnar did a couple of games when she was with the Rockies, and every time she did it I didn't think she did that bad of a job. It wasn't the best, but I was fine with her doing it every once in a while. Hate to say it, but it's been pretty bad this season 😅
Beth Mowins called a Chicago Cubs telecast a few years ago as a fill-in announcer, and she was an infinitely better announcer than Jenny Cavanar ever could be. I'm 100% certain that Cavanar was hired because the A's couldn't find anyone else to do play-by-play for the lame-duck season in Oakland; she sounds like an AI chatbot trying to do sports commentary, to be honest.
This is literally the first comment I’ve ever seen that praises Beth Mowins.
beth mowins was still incredibly difficult to listen to, despite her superior skill announcing compared to cavanar.
@@frieborn5333 Mowins sounds like she's chewing the inside of her cheek when she talks....but she's not a bad announcer technically. Just sounds weird
That headline is misleading. She's not hated. They're saying she's not good calling games. Take hated off of the headline.
Her voice is hated. We can tolerate a bad female announcer. But when a voice sounds as annoying as hers, people will tune out. And they are...
@@matthewbaxter6992: I agree. I've watched a few A's with this lady. Her voice is grating, whereas John Schriffin from my White Sox comes off as annoying.
Jenny Cavnar was great with the Rockies in her limited capacity role, she announced some games here or there and she was great at post game analysis.
8:04 "thats why i married her! great hands!" man must be getting top-tier HJs
That day when her and the Astros had both women calling the games, the Astros caller Julia Morales didn't have these issues and was calling the game like a person who understood the game would. Then you Oakland's announcing team, and she is really bad at her job.
"That changes the score drastically" -solo home run
Lmao
Thanks!
Wow thank YOU. Much appreciated
New white sox announcer is catching up to her lol
Jason Benetti's calling (alongside Steve Stone of course) was the most redeeming aspect of the team in its crash and burn. Without him, and the return to mediocracy in John Schriffen as his replacement has left me without any motivation to watch. I'd watched near daily for much of the last 8 years, I haven't watched them live since opening day this year.
@@Brandon-im9wj the new announcer is fine in that he's a fan that thinks his team is the best, like Hawk. Jason benetti was boring and puts you to sleep. At least you'll laugh here and there with the new announcer
“Who was that anonymous person” lol
THANK YOU! You might also wish to do a Suzyn Waldman video, she is like a pterodactyl screech, goodness gracious...
The owner looks like something that escaped Dr. Frankenstein’s lab.
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“His favorite color is green trees”😂
@@henrygagnon1547same level as that one guy who said knock me down and pick me up and knock me down again
As a Bay Area Sports fan, she sometimes sounds liked a Homer calling the Oakland A's games 😆 🤣 😂 😹
iTalk is gonna get canceled by the Twitter mob with this one...
The jackasses falsely attacking him in this comment section already are. They're pathetic human beings.
I’m a Colorado Rockies fan and I’m not surprised by these critiques. Jenny Cavnar would fill in for our regular play by play announcer occasionally, so I saw this coming a mile away!
She sounds like someone calling a College or Minor League game.
As you alluded to at the end of the video, she does seem like she can become pretty good at her job over time. I think the positive spin you included at the end of this video must not go unnoticed.
I think its possible she sees the criticism but its also just as possible she is getting more comfortable and just less awkward overall.
4:39 Listening to her doesn't sound like I'm watching a MLB game, it sounds like a college or minor league game. Her home run calls and enthusiasm is lackluster, as the example in the video showed. The A's already had that underdog vibe and the Oakland coliseum had a college like atmosphere before but now even on TV with her broadcasting, it's reached another low.
6:22 That Siri shot she took was terrible and I'm glad Siri hit that homer. It was very amateur sounding. How is it not his night, he was 1 for 3 with a homer earlier, he wasn't like 0 for 3 with 3 strikeouts lol
"We have an even up game"
What the hell is even that
Now everyone is equal. Aren’t you glad?
I think she meant the score is tied.
Former Whalers fan so I can relate. You know what helps? Minor league baseball and hockey.
Give Jenny a few years to feel it out. A lot of folks in Baltimore didn't like Melanie Newman calling games for the O's on MASN or on WBAL Radio when she first started out in 2020, but she has improved drastically in my opinion since then in calling plays with emotional relevance and understanding situational baseball.
I dunno what you're hearing, because Newman is bland, boring, and clearly a checkbox hire. Every time she's on the radio call, I go right to the TV play by play. There are much better female announcers in sports, and she's not one of them.
Lol what are you on about? She is awful, I just heard her today. The O's and Yanks each use some dyke-y broad for radio. Into the trash it goes.
I'm so glad the Reds won't try to pull this shit anytime soon; there are too many northern Kentucky Boomers who would storm GABP and throw someone into the Ohio River. But it's coming and before long your favorite team will have a he-she in the booth with a rainbow microphone.
I’ll be honest I think it’s hilarious, don’t even like baseball but I’d listen to hear her figure it out. Woman haven’t been doing this for years and the 2 examples we saw are clear women trying to learn how to talk sports. Let’s encourage them and they’ll get better.
I'm apart of the 70% that hasn't subscribed
Keep it that way lmao
replacing someone that has been doing it for 20 years is always gonna be tricky
So I’m a padres fan and the pads just finished a 3 game series with the A’s today, and I believe she sounded fine, and is getting better. I think she just needs time to learn and keep improving. It’s like how you don’t expect a rookie to be great their first year, they just have to learn and develop, and that’s the same case for Jenny. She hasn’t done any play by play announcing before at the big league level, so she just needs to learn and develop, just like how we need to adapt to stuff too. Once she gets rid of the little bits of cringy announcing, (or at least knows when the right time is to throw a joke in), and cleans up some other things, I think she’ll be fine. It’s cool that she’s doing this and I wish her the best. ⚾️
Did we watch the same series? Man these calls are brutal, she needs to go. Not getting better at all lol, she doesn’t deserve to be on a major league broadcast team.
You’re comparing rookie players to “rookie” announcers? I played baseball until I graduated college and watched a ton of it and I know for a fact I could call the game better and I have never touched a mic in my life. You don’t get things like evened up or the score drastically changed from a solo home run in a 0 to 0 game early on if you just clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Or the long home run bomb anybody should know that isn’t watching the game that it was a no doubter not one that just got over the fence, if she cant tell when a ball is clobbered already there’s little hope it’s not like she’s not been around baseball before. Poor Kiuper, twenty years broadcasting and very good at it and well liked and one slip up that he clearly did not mean to say and he’s just gone and replaced with this
Well said! The best should always get the job regardless of skin color, gender etc.
I was looking for the other videos you made about rookie announcers that aren’t good. Why aren’t there any? Is there something different about this one?
Same reason he doesn't mention the female announcers that are liked by their fan bases. He once put up a video about the first female to get to coach on the field (1B in SF last season) and said 'women have no place in baseball'. The comments were turned off (notice in this video he criticizes the A's for that) so I made sure to comment in the next video. He denied he said it but deleted the video that day. Same reason he defends accidental slurs. Dude has an axe to grind about what he feels are quota hires.
I have never muted an A's game since 1968 but now, sorry, Spongebob is not allowed in our house.
Whats worse, Sox fan or A's fan?
And I know I will be called a sexist for this but I cant stand that announcer either. Its her voice, its so grating, it reminds me of a teacher. She just doesnt have the voice for the profession. I have nothing against her actual commentary or anything personally as I havent listened to enough games really to have an opinion on that part.
On Jenny's first game ever or one of her first, Julia Morales, a reporter for the Astros also did the play by play for Astros broadcast for a game in Houston against Oakland. While she did a satisfactory job, and i imagine anyone might have seen her as just okay, she had a moment I thought showed some potential. When Bregman hit a homer, she has a neat phase staying, "You can say goodbye to that baseball, ya'll!"
Unlike Jenny, I felt Julia really brought in the energy. Perhaps with time, she can become a PbP announcer or something simular, but one way a good announcer can get people's attention is to have that ability to amplify the moment. Gus Johnson in college football is a great example of that.
But yeah, there can be great women who can announce events, but everyone needs to be qualified, prepare, and develop the skills necessary to enrich the event experience.
7:25 I normally would agree, as I'm not a big social-issues kinda guy, but I do think there's a ton of misogyny when it comes to women in any area of sports. Perhaps misogynists are just the most vocal, but any post on ESPN or Sportscenter regarding a woman covering or coaching men's sports seem to have an absurd amount of disparaging comments. Always annoyed me because I've worked a lot covering and broadcasting sports and have known some amazingly talented and passionate women in the field. Especially in the past, I think it's important to recognize, because women like Suzyn Waldman I think deserve credit for being courageous and passionate enough to pursue careers in Men's sports despite very frequent misogyny and undeserved criticism
I do agree with a lot of that. I personally would feel awkward if I were a woman working around a bunch of men. Some who prob wouldn't look at me other than a sex object but lots of people, men too along with women play victim now and don't take responsibility for not doing their job.
For example, not sure if you're into Star Wars but the director of the newest show is very clearly prioritizing irrelevant things other than telling a good story and in turn is getting slandered for it. Because she's a woman? No, because she's not doing a good job to a product people loved.
I think both things can be true. There's still sexism for sure or at the very least guys who only view women sexually in a work place but it's not everyone and there's other issues as well
@@iTalkStudios 100% agreed.
But you're more focusing on harassment/sexism within the workplace, which of course is an issue. Of course, we both agree that people should be judged by their performance, and hired due to their competency
I was more getting at the general attitudes of guys when it comes to women in the field of men's sports specifically. Not necessarily that they look at women too sexually, but they criticize their performance, ability, and worthiness much more, purely because of their gender
Example that comes to mind is the needless backlash last year when a woman started coaching that minor league team in Tampa
When women are afforded roles they don't deserve like the A's announcer, or last year with that AWFUL female kicker on a D3 college football team, it leads to more skepticism and criticism of women that are genuinely worthy of their positions - which I also think is a big problem with this as well
You sound like some reddit cuckold.
I was so sure Mr. amish paradise on the left was gonna be the one to drop the n bomb I laughed when the other guy did it🤣🤣
This is how you criticize… I love your videos but this one you handled perfectly. I don’t think she is great either, but only because she isn’t and not due to external factors. Ending the video with the fact that she is listening to criticism ,and ( maybe) changing and thus giving credit for that, is the right move. This is how you talk about issues like this just using the facts. Keep making great content, I’m stoked to watch each and every video. Now make a video about how the red Sox’s suck but they kinda don’t and how they are exceeding expectations with the current rooster full of injuries and rookies while also blowing games with the most boring baseball ever constantly just to soothe my wounded heart please….
I really appreciate this comment. Your support means a lot! And yeah, might need to talk about the Boston Mid Sox some point soon...
@@iTalkStudiosyou’re the goat
Give her Jessica Mendoza as a sidekick/color-commentary, and you've got the dream team of broadcasting.
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He once put up a video about the first female to get to coach on the field
(1B in SF last season) and said 'women have no place in baseball'.
The comments were turned off (notice in this video he criticizes the A's for that)
so I made sure to comment in the next video. He denied he said it but deleted the video that day. Same reason he defends accidental slurs. Dude has an axe to grind about what he feels are quota hires.
@@olliverklozov2789 didnt ask tbh 😹
The Jose Siri call from her was pretty brutal😔. I remember watching that game like why would she say that when he already hit a Hr that night and Yesterday.
Idk if anyone's brought this up before, but she's literally a high pitched Joe Buck
And people put up with that nepo baby for 2 decades. He even got his "best calls" highlights on youtube ffs, and got inducted into the HoF on other sport
Give her time
Can you say DEI? One of the worst ideas ever. Now let’s see how long before RUclips deletes this and I’ll probably get a 24 hour ban from writing comments. The best person for the job should be who gets it period
7:41 Bro, this is the weakest take on feminism I've ever heard
No one cares. It was accurate and anyone who follows the feminist movement knows it.
Guy was skirting on the line of misogyny the whole video then said "fuck it"
"Coming in home and how about we have ourselves an even up game."
I'm not sure an announcer having a stroke would say those words in that order talking about a baseball play.
I think the favorite color is green trees was actually original.
I don't get why someone whose entire career consists of his ability to speak extemporaneously in a smooth and continuous manner deserves a pass for saying what he said. As far as "the most HATED announcer" title you have bestowed on Jenny Cavnar - there are many who disagree with you. That "changes the score drastically" thing you seem hung up about - where is the lie? Did the score change by more than one run? Did she seem incredulous? No. She just noted it. Apparently that was worthy of the title of this piece.
Then, at 6:01, we have it all laid out for your viewers. There we have it. If you covered football I'm sure we would be blessed with the Harrison Butker explanation piece.
What do u mean by that last sentence?
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A white boy who don't want to see women or minorities in the game smfh what a stupid video
@@iTalkStudiosI think they are saying you're some kind of far right wing guy or something making it clear they didn't listen to your entire video.
Because it was an accident and he immediately apologized, which is never enough for you woke Marxist trolls. I guarantee you've said far worse based on your arrogance and obsession with destroying this man.
Green trees!!!!! Hahahaha
7:40
Completely agree with every point you made, but you don't have to generalize feminists as playing victim
I like how he says let's not generalize but proceeds to generalize feminist
Yes, he does, because that's what all of them do.
@@LouieKaboom nope it's just the loud majority that do
The footage inside the box is pretty telling. Dallas was losing his mind over plays and she’s taking loads of notes.
Well,he’s an athlete,a former member of the team,and she’s a first year announcer looking around at a nearly empty stadium,and wondering how many people are actually tuning in and listening.Can’t be easy.And she’s gotta share a booth with Sasquatch.
@@chunga1959 she’s not a good announcer. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
My respect for iTalk after the 6 minute mark of this video: 📈📈📈📈
DEI hire. Yes. She is. It’s basic observation and to deny it is to accept delusion.
You earned a sub for that take. Very well said on just about everything without insulting or demeaning her. You are correct in that we should hire people who are the best for the job. She clearly has not been good at commentary. I'm a Phillies fan and we have good announcers so my expectations are a bit higher but my point still stands
7:41
Wtf are you talking about bro?
Facts?
He called the museum by it's correct name! And he had a phenomenal day! I blame the BBQ
I'm sure every other rookie announcer is getting the same amount of judgemental eyes as this one. Surely if there was any other rookie that made any type of mistake, you would have made a video about it by now
There’s obviously going to be a lot more scrutiny with one of the first female play-by-play announcers, but the internet has just been cruel towards her 😂. iTalk has been no better
I love the calls from Chris carry the play-by-play guy on the local station watching the A’s. He’s the son of Skip Carry (voice of the Cards) and grandson of Harry Carry.
If people liked Joe Buck, it doesn't make sense if they don't like her.
They're literally similar, only that Joe has lower pitched voice
Having a strong LOW voice is quite literally the most important prerequisite to being a successful broadcaster
8:04 dawg what is that tweet
What’s weird is that there have been a ton of very qualified women that haven’t gotten broadcasting job because of their gender.
I went to sports broadcasting camp when I was younger, it was really interesting. There’s clearly hella sexism in the industry. Knew hella qualified n respectable women there that had many rly rly rough experiences in the male dominated field. It’s so strange that a woman finally got a shot.. and she’s genuinely awful. Like this was clearly a diversity hire.. but there’s so many people that are both qualified and not men. This whole thing is so strange..
Lucky for me that I now live in Minnesota and don't have to listen to Oakland baseball (though even when I lived in Oakland it was hard to find A's baseball) but I do miss Glenn Kuiper. I don't know him personally but I can't imagine that he uses that word casually. To end a person's career like that is a crying shame. The A's have been my favorite team my whole life and now I just can't do baseball.
Sex bots were first 😔
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As you pointed out, the problem has never been that she's a woman, but that she's just not a great broadcaster. I don't watch the A's broadcasts but I'm glad to hear that she is taking the criticism and getting better. And you are spot on with how she is handling the criticism, at least publicly. I truly hope she becomes a phenomenal broadcaster.
Thomas Sowell... Different realm, however, he is smart. Doesn't matter where he grew up, his skin color, NOTHING. He's just qualified.
Wonderful another bot. You guys are everywhere with the election coming up
This is clearly a bot. Comment makes no sense in comparison to the video. It still has "4' likes. Don't believe everything you see on YT people. Do your own homework and check it twice. With the election around the corner it's gonna be bad