I totally agree. If they aren't guilty of something involving whatever caused Noah's death, you would think they would be elated that the truth is being told.
The worst of all of the people that are bullying Caden Pressy is Jasmine Millan and her mother Rene. You women should be ashamed of yourselves, leave Caden alone!!!!
What’s so weird to me. Is In jacks interview he said “I ran over and asked is Noah okay?” It was still dark noah was on the far side of the road facing away from the road. Everyone said he was unrecognizable due to his injuries. The truckers couldn’t even tell if it was a deer or a human..So how did jack Instantly know that it was noah laying on the road? His first words were “is Noah okay”. How did he know it was noah at that time he hadn’t even examined the person upclose. Also Jack went to the house and told the other kids Noah was dead so why did he ask the trucker if Noah was okay if he already knew he was dead..Jack put noah there for sure..
Rob and Cindy please, please, please stay on this. I know it’s like pulling teeth, but you both are angles and if not for you, no one would have ever heard what Kaden had to say, so please, don’t give up on this!
I've seen screenshots of jacks father threatening people online. I've seen Jack attacking people in comments too. So I don't understand why they're being so aggressive. Jack has changed his stories too many times
I feel the same way I got a bad feeling about Jack from the beginning like first it was a semi then if not a semi it was "those Texas boys" I don't know who all was involved but I have always felt Jack was the instigator and his dad was either involved with the killing or the cover up
This is so biased and so many things wrong it will be cleared up. So Tyler is lying now? Where's any proof whatsoever Jack has proof Robyn said she doesn't think he's involved so keep talking about Jack who took a lie detector
@@mikealinewallgren4985 Jack is NOT speaking out on a podcast. He's not being open, and when he did share his story, it changed quite a bit and he never tried to clarify. That's what looks suspicious about Jack. But people shouldn't be attacking him either, the public just doesn't know what exactly transpired 😊
Kaden God will bless you throughout your life because you are doing the right thing. Also what you are doing says a lot about who you are an what you stand for.❤stay STRONG Kaden.
This case is very murdaugh reminiscent. Jack’s uncle being former chief of police, his father already being involved in the death of his friend’s 7 year old via negligence in a boating accident and somehow managing to avoid any legal trouble. I absolutely believe Jack was the one responsible and personally I think his driving factor in murdering Noah is that he had already allegedly been pissed off with Noah for flirting with his girlfriend now fast forward to him seeing Jasmine and his girlfriend giving Noah a shower. They say Noah got pissed and left after the shower incident when he wanted to sleep in one of the girls’ beds and got turned down, I think Jack followed him from the home and beat Noah to death and called his dad and his dad helped him come up with a plan.
Exactly !!! Noah's argument with Jack over the jealousy of his girlfriend, but then Jack let his girlfriend shower Noah? Because that makes absolutely zero sense at all.
The host photo of the 2 sisters arguing outside in the patio area was deleted ,I think the sisters ,Noah's friend and possibly the girl who put in snap chat all know what occured and the parents helping clear the evidence I am shocked the Police never even considered forensics at that house of evil!😡
I was saying a couple months ago I thought NP was hosed off in the front yard and then dumped on the side of the road. According to KP there was a wet porch that morning. 🤔 I just spoke to Justin about this on FB and added that if the black shorts were still wet when NP was dumped on the side of the road that could link the house to NP's body. I wouldn't be surprised if CN, JN and the homeowners were already chatting on their phones right after "it" happened and prior to 5:15am instructing JN on what to do.
Maybe they originally planned to remove the black shorts and replace it with the white shorts but they had a hard time removing the black shorts due to rigor mortis and they couldn't put the white shorts anymore without making the tampering of the body too obvious so they just left it near the body instead.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Everyone is hyperfocused on Noah's shorts. I want to know which party goer changed clothes between 3 am- 5:30 am? If this was a beating there was blood on someone's clothes or shoes. They had to have cleaned up.
Exactly when that kind of blunt force trauma is inflicted on a person there is a lot of blood and blood splatter everywhere . Guess we know why the party house smelled so strongly of bleach
Based on my research, Tyler Hardy the 911 caller whose wife is friends with Stevie Howard, Josie and partygoers, claimed to have stumbled upon Noah's body while driving to work on Labor Day a holiday at the exact moment. What an incredible coincidence!
Did you mean StevIE Harvey? I'm interested how the Harveys and the Texans connect to the Combs etc. Also what other houses are on the property and who lives there.
I'll make a judgement ; innocent people do not get upset when truth comes out . Innocent people do not wipe their phones. Innocent people do not hide legal guns ect ect ect...
There has been some speculation that Kathy the PI is related to one of the partygoers BS. I would like to see that addressed and cleared up during her interview.
It makes so much sense! someone was told to take the black shorts off Noah and put the white shorts nearby to throw things off. People leave Kaden alone, he is trying to help Noah, Kaden wasn’t involved at all. The authorities need to get a professional forensic botanist In to find out where that grass that was in the shoes came from?
@@penylynnbernal5618probably not considering they also didn’t find the golf clubs which according to kaden were in a scrap pile behind jack’s house. it wouldn’t surprise me if he got rid of the hat just like he sold the atv that was at the party. i bet the black shorts that noah was wearing also had evidence on them and that’s why they replaced it with the white shorts instead.
How were the volunteer firemen alerted and why didn't they call 911? If they told Kaden to leave the scene then they were there for 45 minutes before the 911 call. I know they are connected to the homeowner and/or Jack but still, how can they be volunteer firemen and not call 911?
And how were the two truck drivers, 'Tyler' and Tyler Hardy involved? If the 911 calls were made just before 6am (ME report says 5:53am) and Kaden and the 3 other boys arrived around 5:25am, and Kayden SAW the black shorts on Noah and truck driver yelled at them to leave and Jack stayed behind...something is really off, were they friends of Jack or his father? Those 3, one of them, or all of them, removed the black shorts and tossed the white ones in the road before others arrived. WHAT did they do to Noah, and WHY?!! The FBI needs to round all these people and kids up and interrogate them, immediately. Wait, one more thing...when they played the 911 calls, the last 911 call was Tyler Henry or the other Tyler...it doesn't matter, the last call the 911 op says she received 2-other calls ALREADY...so it could not have been the volunteer fire fighters. I hope the FBI is identifying these discrepancies.
@@strix.1 The missing 911 call was the first tyler, had a bad connection and called back - that's what's been reported. I'm very curious about the shadowy volunteers there maybe 20/30 minutes before LE - how were they alerted and didn't call 911? When Kaden saw Noah, the image had to be seared into his memory - if Noel was not wearing shorts that would definitely be an unforgettable image of a close friend. If his timeline is off by an hour as some suggest, then he arrived the same time as LE - to me, that means he had to be there prior LE to do the shorts swap. And, the missing wallet & phone - both had to be in the black shorts.
@@strix.1 there was an early report of someone claiming to see a white truck pull up, a guy jump out, takes Noah's shorts and leave white ones. I've been trying to find that, no luck yet. FYI - the FBI is not involved in the investigation as reported last week. It appears to be a misconception due to what LE told the family. The FBI is there if needed in the investigation and their help has not been solicited. LE is not even collecting evidence offered (Kaden's phone data), what evidence would the state DA even have to proceed with charges or prosecuting should it go to trial? Just ridiculous what's going on considering this is a potential homicide case.
@@strix.1 I recall an early report of someone to seeing a white truck pull up, a guy jump out, takes Noah's shorts and leave white ones. I've been trying to find that, no luck yet.
Interesting that Jack "apparently" gave washed??? black shorts back 2 family - but, did not give golf clubs - the possible unaliving or harming weapons - 2 family - instead Kayden spied them in the metal scrap pile @ the Newtons property!! .... they should have been returned 2 family - they actuality belonged 2 Dailen!
As I agree with you on his personal belongings being returned to family, there is a reason why they weren't! Also, the black shorts were not washed prior to them being given back. His brother washed them not realizing they could have possibly held evidence! Also, Paul Poucher in the Justice group on facebook stated they went to get his property, smelled bleach from 5 ft away from the door and looked in the window and saw some of Noah's property. He stated this was the day after his death!
@larissamello374 But they weren't even on sight when Jack ,Logan, Mikey and Breylin first arrived. No white shorts were on the scene and Noah had his black shorts on him and was laying on his side....not in the fetal position.
@@PinkyLaRue first Logan was not there. Second the other three never corroborated Kaden version of events. He also never did with a concrete evidence. Third two firefighters and two drivers saw the white shorts in the middle of the road.
There are cover-ups happening all the time. LE doesn’t want this crime to be looked at or investigated. I believe it’s because some of the kids at this party have/had family in law enforcement. Cops take care of cops, period. The shoes having grass and dirt within them may be because Noah was running. Noah was beaten to death. But by whom? Jack, Isaac, both, or more? I believe Kayden 1000%. He saw Noah with the black shorts on his person. Either the two truck drives removed the shorts, or Jack did. Maybe Jack told the two truck drivers to leave and when he was alone he took off the shorts. But, why? DNA evidence, humiliation? There’s too much going on and people NOT talking.
In part 6 Kaden said when he was there Jack took the black shorts off of Noah, and dropped the beige or white shorts on the road. I believe Kaden 💯%. His account of events has always been consistent for me. And has no reason to lie. He's right to distance himself from those shady-ass people. No doubt Noah was beaten to death and the main people at the house helped cover it up. Jack has been controlling the narrative the whole time to influence people's perception of events. He said he knew Noah was beaten and it looked like by about 5 dudes.? So again he is controlling the narrative. Whenever he is adamant about things like knowing for sure it was a hit and run and knowing he was beaten that's when he is controlling the narrative. So we know for sure it wasn't a hit and run. That possibility has been completely ruled out and deemed impossible by experts. Jack keeps saying the "Texas kids" may have been involved but these mysterious Texas kids where and who are they? Do they even exist? I doubt it. And for sure if they were involved they wouldn't have hurt Noah intentionally? What a load of b.s.! But he's spinning it like these "Texas kids" beat Noah. So for me that tells me those are not the real numbers of "dudes" that beat Noah. Jack gives himself away every time. It was 2 "dudes" . Caleb and Jack. Any others involved were bit players. Caleb is who initiated the attack and Jack helped him. It's so obvious.
@@Cycy8080 Facts I was wondering the same thing. Usually the first person that starts blaming others is guilty. Trying to draw the attention from himself.. I want an interview with one of the texas boys they might tell the truth since Jack blamed them
I should have pointed out what he said about the front patio area being hosed down. That seems important, so I'm wrong to say the part two was nothing.
I've seen other cases where Law Enforcement will hold all Timestamps from the public because it let's them know when someone's timeline statements are lies. Time, location, where, when is protected. No?
Honestly I just heard about Noah Presgrove case a couple days ago, and IMO I think a horrific accident took place 😢 Praying for Noah's family members and friends 🙏🏻 From Poconos PA
On one of the earliest podcasts “the full load” the family was told by Jasmine that they showered Noah after the accident bc he was covered with grass and dirt and the white shorts were put on him and they were very loose and big.
@@Cycy8080 that’s true. I thought of them as like stretched out old sports shorts with no waist band but you are right. Do we know they were def Jacks? It’s difficult that there are no photos of crime scene, Noah’s body when it was found l, etc. The two inconsistencies are the shoes still being on and the shorts off. Assuming he was showered either he walked out naked or lost the white shorts somehow or something more sinister.
@@susangehler4199 understandable but two MEs have said most likely Noah’s body was not moved. Due to lividity and his poor broken body. Like many pointed out - he was the biggest guy at the party.
If he had been killed there in the road there would have been a lot of blood yet there was one small spot from Noah's head there is NO WAY he was not moved there from where he was actually killed
Kaden is the only friend of Noah's speaking out openly. And he is calling out the people he cares about. I heard that Jack's Dad and Averys Dad was at the party Sunday night. I wish we could know if those true. Avery Dad is known as a Texas Boy. That's the rumor.
This is the only way I can figure as to the white shorts on the road: individual 1 wanted to get Noah's black shorts that may have evidence, laid them down on road while removing black shorts. Someone drove up & put everything to a halt. 😢 🔎🛣👹🧤🩳👟👟👀🕊 Rest In Peace Noah. #JusticeForNoah ❤
Something interesting and to note mentioned by a psychologist was the fact the shorts were folded next to his body. She stated she thought that was something typical of female would do
If Kaden saw Noah on the side of the road at before LE arrived an if Kaden said that Noah had ON a pair of black shorts…. Then I believe Kaden, but once LE arrived, Noah was nude. Who was there when LE arrived? Besides Jack, were the truck drivers there with Jack, then who removed Noah’s shorts?
Could you also ask the forensic expert, Jody, if Noah’s lungs could have been punctured by his broken bones, when his ribs or neck bones broke they in turn punctured the lungs? Thank you.
@@whatknotcovfefe And then they ate him, like on Yellowjackets. So that must have been a body double on the side of the road, which explains why he didn't have Noah's shorts on...🤔
@@whatknotcovfefe I say this because my good friend was killed falling out of the back of a pick up his best friend was driving on a trail. The truck was not going fast as they were off roading but he fell square on the top of his head then rolled back. He had the same injuries as Noah. A large crack in his skull and high fractures and breaks in his neck almost like a hanging. Also his shoulder blades and collar bones were broken. Now If the pick up truck Noah was in (picked up by a party goer after he walked out after the fight) was driving fast this would explain the horrific injuries. Noah drunk fell out, hit the road square on his head the impact crushed downward breaking his head, neck, shoulder and collar bone, ribs and puncturing his lungs. As the fall likely incapacitated him right away this explains why his limbs were intact- he went limp. When he hit he bit down on his tongue and cracked his teeth. The one wrench is he still had his shoes on. Now I know this isn’t the story everyone wants of a gangland beat down but it still implicates foul play and a cover up. To me Kaden is telling the truth but bc of the trauma of seeing his friend dead he mis remembers the time- exactly an hour off. Also if you talk to police- a witnesses story can vary widely. He saw Noah the entire night wearing those black shorts. Could he have just inserted Noah wearing the shorts? Not sure. We will find out when Kadens phone is forensically checked out for call times, geo tracking etc.
Exactly the first guy that called 911 said that noah was naked, then kaden came afterwards and said noah was wearing the black shorts, Then the officer came after abd said noah was naked
Does anyone know if Noah’s hair was wet when they found him?? I’ve got a feeling they took the shorts off noah because they were soaking wet..If the cops had found him in wet shorts they would’ve searched the house..
Last proof of life of Noah was Kaden seen him at 243am in kitchen with Jasmin and Jack and a few others? Missing post at 341 by jasmin. What happen between that time ? Jack said later Noah was dead at 4am ? 515am jack comes through door saying Noahs dead, then the 911 calls 543am? Or 618? Wow. No searchcwarrents yet luminal for porch and house and sheds, barns,trucks, ⚖🦮⚖🦮
Was Noah was dragged by the side by side? Which would explain most of his injuries. Cleaned up of the blood & dumped, made to look like a hit-and-run. Just not planned out very well?! Is this a decent hunch🤔
I feel so sad for Noah because of the way he died, it's cruel and very sad for such a young man who had dreams but can't live it now. RIP Noah, I hope the truth will come out soon so your family can get the closure they need to heal from your loss, heartbreaking..
That's disturbing to me that there's no time stamp on reports. That screams foul play in my opinion and experiences from the law enforcement in my community. Every way they have dismissed and approached this case is screaming foul play. It's sad because I know what Noah's family is going through because I have gone through it. My father was murdered 21 Year's ago right in front of my little brother, my grandma and myself By the CHP. There's so many red flags in the way they started the case in my opinion. I am praying for Noah and his family, sending love and support for you all.
Are you going to interview jack and Isack and slap boy on porch and the other guys that was there? Party hosts ? The adults that moved the guns? I admire Kaden speaking up. Not being a follower ..lead the way Kaden like Noah would.⚖🦮🦮🌳🌳😇🌊⛱🌊⛱🌻
Im new to this case but what i want to know is why was jack allowed to stay on the scene while kaden and others were told to leave? And how did jack know noah had died before everyone else? Why is he the one telling the other kids their friend was deceased? Where was he during the hours of 2:43 and 5:15?
Justice for Noah Page just said that Noah was beaten outside on the patio behind the house. And that there was water on the patio as if Noah was washed by the hose. If Jacks father was at the scene at 5:30 am and Jacks father confirmed that Jack called called him and said Noah had passed. If its an hour drive from Jacks house to the scene it seems Jack knew around 4am ish that Noah passed. Is any of this true.
Between the first 911 call and second call is when the shorts were taken off. Im sure the first man that called 911 is the man that made Kaden leave but jack could stay they removed the shorts and left!!! And the first 911 caller calls. Who is that guy? Im sure he knows jack 🙄🙄
I think they drove Noah from the house property to 81 on the ATV and he was falling off of it and where he fell off the ATV is where they left him. I think they definitely moved him off the party property , and I think it was hard to hold him on the ATV and he just fell off it.
I have a theory about the shorts y'all tell me what you think: Someone took the black shorts off thinking they had evidence. The white shorts were intended to replace the black ones. They weren't able to get the white shorts on Noah for some reason, maybe someone drove up.
If caleb left his phone at home on pourpose his phone would ping at home if he wanted to help clean up or party or cheat ect he would know to leave his phone at home to make it look like he was home. To cops or to his wife ...
That Jack with his arrogant attitude & dark glasses is loading a lot of suspicion upon himself, this unspeakable murder required evidently a mind that he evidently doesn't have but he may be under psychological pressure to protect that sick mind not part of him
I'm confused the guy that first called 911 said that noah was naked, Then kaden came afterwards and saw noah wearing black shorts, then the police officer came afterwards said noah was naked.
Kaden was there earlier, before the first 911 call or police were ever on scene. That’s why so many are trying to say he’s “misremembering” and his timeline is wrong. If he actually did see Noah in the black shorts, but the 911 caller nor police did, then it’s obvious someone will have a desecration of a corpse charge for removing the black shorts from a deceased Noah.
Carter - Jacks fiance - Noahs ex GF ... he may have had a fight with Carter ... i wouldnt b surprised if Carter still had eyes 4 Noah & really authenticity did not want 2 b with Jack ... since then wedding called off ...
The Kaden part was kinda nothing. Not really that interested in his unrelated tubing accident, lol. I do appreciate the work you've obviously put in unseen, developing and keeping a relationship with Kaden and his family, but there are SO many questions he could clear up that probably wouldn't conflict with his legal situation. Maybe you can gather up some more questions from your viewers and run them by his family?
I think the point is to get him to tell us about a verified event, his injury. That gives you insight on how he speaks when recalling events. He says "um" alot even when he is recalling the knee injury event. Where some might see that as him stalling to think of a lie to tell, it's just the way he speaks. He is speaking in the same tone, the same manner telling both the stories, the one about his knee injury and his recollection of events with the party. Proof he is telling what he feels is true on both stories.
I want to add to this if someone can please ask the people that were there when they saw cadence red Jeep pulling up can somebody please ask the two grown adults that were there the servicemen and the semi truck driver if Jack had mentioned anything when they were pulling up can you please have these guys leave that's why the the semi driver or the service man who told Kayden to leave that they had to leave need to be asked were they asked to leave because Jack made it clear to them right before they got off the car cuz Jackson them coming please have them leave because Jack's dad was coming and Jack's dad told no told listen where Noah was and to make sure that he was going to go and remove his shorts that were evidence and then Jack ended up going back to the house he said and picking up some black shorts to put on Noah and he said he found them on the on the road which was a lie and he put him on his bed of his truck that right there needs to be asked what guy asked Kayden to leave to me that's really good evidence if Jack had asked the guy please have them leave
Cover up if you ask me . Probably a fight broke out at party house. Involves who ? Jack and the girls or the parents 🤔 jigsaw puzzle just need to find the right piece's.god bless noah family and noah friends.
The continuity of events is incongruent...has anyone explored the internalized bigotry possibility...Noah was Native American...when the victim & his defender are being brutalized, as Shakespeare wrote in Hamlet, "There is something rotting in Denmark."
Yeah so those white shorts were baggy and that must be why they came off on the road when the hit&run happened. They were Jack's shorts so no wonder his DNA could be on them. That's just the short of it. Period. Move along now, Love ❤️ Jassy J & Friends of Noah
Tyler hardy Said when he was there no one was at the scene but kaden came before him and said jack and some other guy were at the scene. So how did tyler not see jack and the other guy.
Kaden is very BRAVE, noble!!! ❤thank you Caden! Caden is a WARRIOR!
If anyone from the party are mad he is talking, they must have something to hide
Agree 💯
Innocent people do not get upset with the facts
Exactly.
I totally agree. If they aren't guilty of something involving whatever caused Noah's death, you would think they would be elated that the truth is being told.
The worst of all of the people that are bullying Caden Pressy is Jasmine Millan and her mother Rene. You women should be ashamed of yourselves, leave Caden alone!!!!
Is this on a FB account?
@@billiebreese2067 yes
Why are they bullying Caden? Is it guilt?? 😔
Perhaps, Kaden Pressy should sue for defamation.
What’s so weird to me. Is In jacks interview he said “I ran over and asked is Noah okay?” It was still dark noah was on the far side of the road facing away from the road. Everyone said he was unrecognizable due to his injuries. The truckers couldn’t even tell if it was a deer or a human..So how did jack Instantly know that it was noah laying on the road? His first words were “is Noah okay”. How did he know it was noah at that time he hadn’t even examined the person upclose. Also Jack went to the house and told the other kids Noah was dead so why did he ask the trucker if Noah was okay if he already knew he was dead..Jack put noah there for sure..
Very interesting... good point!
You made some excellent points here. Jack is looking worse all the time. And so are a few of the girls.
Columbo!
Right
Lord we pray that the actual truth come out and justice for poor Noah. Thank you Kaden for staying strong and stand your ground 🙏🙏🙏
Amen! I've been praying all day, everyday, Noah's case is weighing very heavy on my heart.
Rob and Cindy please, please, please stay on this. I know it’s like pulling teeth, but you both are angles and if not for you, no one would have ever heard what Kaden had to say, so please, don’t give up on this!
Yes! Please never give up or give in Rob & Cindy! Noah needs us to be his voice!!!!
Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
I don’t trust Jack or Jacks father, not at all, I’m sorry, my got tells me, absolutely nothing good about Jack or Jack’s father.
I've seen screenshots of jacks father threatening people online. I've seen Jack attacking people in comments too. So I don't understand why they're being so aggressive. Jack has changed his stories too many times
Agree 💯
Yep, I smell a rat 🫤
I feel the same way I got a bad feeling about Jack from the beginning like first it was a semi then if not a semi it was "those Texas boys" I don't know who all was involved but I have always felt Jack was the instigator and his dad was either involved with the killing or the cover up
Thank you Rob & Cindy for bringing Jodi on to stand up for Kaden. Justice for Noah!!
This kid is not on trial. People need to stop it. Kaden has been such a good person for sharing ANYTHING with the general public.
Really? Neither is Jack yet he's been attacked for MONTHS so no one can question this kid
I think it's very hypocritical to say things about asking Kaden jacks been harassed for months so hypothetical
This is so biased and so many things wrong it will be cleared up. So Tyler is lying now? Where's any proof whatsoever Jack has proof Robyn said she doesn't think he's involved so keep talking about Jack who took a lie detector
@@mikealinewallgren4985 Jack is NOT speaking out on a podcast. He's not being open, and when he did share his story, it changed quite a bit and he never tried to clarify. That's what looks suspicious about Jack. But people shouldn't be attacking him either, the public just doesn't know what exactly transpired 😊
the biggest liar is Jasmine Millan, she's a horrible excuse for a human being!!@mikealinewallgren4985
Massive cover up in my opinion.
Kaden God will bless you throughout your life because you are doing the right thing. Also what you are doing says a lot about who you are an what you stand for.❤stay STRONG Kaden.
This case is very murdaugh reminiscent. Jack’s uncle being former chief of police, his father already being involved in the death of his friend’s 7 year old via negligence in a boating accident and somehow managing to avoid any legal trouble. I absolutely believe Jack was the one responsible and personally I think his driving factor in murdering Noah is that he had already allegedly been pissed off with Noah for flirting with his girlfriend now fast forward to him seeing Jasmine and his girlfriend giving Noah a shower. They say Noah got pissed and left after the shower incident when he wanted to sleep in one of the girls’ beds and got turned down, I think Jack followed him from the home and beat Noah to death and called his dad and his dad helped him come up with a plan.
Exactly !!! Noah's argument with Jack over the jealousy of his girlfriend, but then Jack let his girlfriend shower Noah? Because that makes absolutely zero sense at all.
Justice for Noah from Missouri
Thank you Caden❤
Thank you for your continued coverage of Noah's case. Jodi Barth is such a great guest-so much knowledge and experience!
Poor Kayden, he is only doing what he should for his friend. If it wasn’t for Kayden we wouldn’t know Noah was murdered. Poor kid 😢.
Justice for Noah! And good on you Kayden. Amanda from South Africa.... 🐝
Jason from philippines here, justice for noah
Sooo glad Kaydon sent his phone to be analyzed!!! Smart! 😊
I didn't catch that! That's wonderful news!
@ minute 15:38
He went through his lawyer to an outside/independent co. company
@@susangehler4199 thank you!
I feel like that's going to be real important 🙏
The host photo of the 2 sisters arguing outside in the patio area was deleted ,I think the sisters ,Noah's friend and possibly the girl who put in snap chat all know what occured and the parents helping clear the evidence
I am shocked the Police never even considered forensics at that house of evil!😡
I was saying a couple months ago I thought NP was hosed off in the front yard and then dumped on the side of the road. According to KP there was a wet porch that morning. 🤔
I just spoke to Justin about this on FB and added that if the black shorts were still wet when NP was dumped on the side of the road that could link the house to NP's body.
I wouldn't be surprised if CN, JN and the homeowners were already chatting on their phones right after "it" happened and prior to 5:15am instructing JN on what to do.
Maybe they originally planned to remove the black shorts and replace it with the white shorts but they had a hard time removing the black shorts due to rigor mortis and they couldn't put the white shorts anymore without making the tampering of the body too obvious so they just left it near the body instead.
Or maybe they struggled taking off the black shorts because they were wet.
Very good point.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Everyone is hyperfocused on Noah's shorts. I want to know which party goer changed clothes between 3 am- 5:30 am? If this was a beating there was blood on someone's clothes or shoes. They had to have cleaned up.
Exactly when that kind of blunt force trauma is inflicted on a person there is a lot of blood and blood splatter everywhere . Guess we know why the party house smelled so strongly of bleach
Based on my research, Tyler Hardy the 911 caller whose wife is friends with Stevie Howard, Josie and partygoers, claimed to have stumbled upon Noah's body while driving to work on Labor Day a holiday at the exact moment. What an incredible coincidence!
Did you mean StevIE Harvey? I'm interested how the Harveys and the Texans connect to the Combs etc. Also what other houses are on the property and who lives there.
@@raincadeifyStevies kids are Combs, he used to live there accd to public tax records.
@@juneyshu6197 Who used to live there?
@@nanalee1027Look up stevie howard or bub wilkinson, terrel, ok, there are records. lots.
@@nanalee1027The kids likely dad, mr combs.
I'll make a judgement ; innocent people do not get upset when truth comes out . Innocent people do not wipe their phones. Innocent people do not hide legal guns ect ect ect...
There has been some speculation that Kathy the PI is related to one of the partygoers BS. I would like to see that addressed and cleared up during her interview.
If it's the same Kathy a P I. She is related to Noah she said her grandson and Noah were first cousins
It makes so much sense! someone was told to take the black shorts off Noah and put the white shorts nearby to throw things off. People leave Kaden alone, he is trying to help Noah, Kaden wasn’t involved at all. The authorities need to get a professional forensic botanist In to find out where that grass that was in the shoes came from?
What gets me is the shorts were folded next to his body. Folding shorts is something a female would do I think a girl was involved
@@ltm1969azyes I believe one to three girls were heavily involved if not the death itself then the cover up
What you should ask is why jack texted his dad around 6 said to bring hat something happened to his at the party
I think Jacks hat 🧢 had to of got blood or evidence on it.. QUESTION did they ever find Jacks hat??? If not then you know why 💯💯🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@@penylynnbernal5618probably not considering they also didn’t find the golf clubs which according to kaden were in a scrap pile behind jack’s house. it wouldn’t surprise me if he got rid of the hat just like he sold the atv that was at the party. i bet the black shorts that noah was wearing also had evidence on them and that’s why they replaced it with the white shorts instead.
That atv I believe is what took Noah's life
How were the volunteer firemen alerted and why didn't they call 911? If they told Kaden to leave the scene then they were there for 45 minutes before the 911 call. I know they are connected to the homeowner and/or Jack but still, how can they be volunteer firemen and not call 911?
There were three calls, the second call was not released to the public, so it may have been a volunteer fire fighter.
And how were the two truck drivers, 'Tyler' and Tyler Hardy involved? If the 911 calls were made just before 6am (ME report says 5:53am) and Kaden and the 3 other boys arrived around 5:25am, and Kayden SAW the black shorts on Noah and truck driver yelled at them to leave and Jack stayed behind...something is really off, were they friends of Jack or his father? Those 3, one of them, or all of them, removed the black shorts and tossed the white ones in the road before others arrived. WHAT did they do to Noah, and WHY?!! The FBI needs to round all these people and kids up and interrogate them, immediately. Wait, one more thing...when they played the 911 calls, the last 911 call was Tyler Henry or the other Tyler...it doesn't matter, the last call the 911 op says she received 2-other calls ALREADY...so it could not have been the volunteer fire fighters. I hope the FBI is identifying these discrepancies.
@@strix.1 The missing 911 call was the first tyler, had a bad connection and called back - that's what's been reported. I'm very curious about the shadowy volunteers there maybe 20/30 minutes before LE - how were they alerted and didn't call 911? When Kaden saw Noah, the image had to be seared into his memory - if Noel was not wearing shorts that would definitely be an unforgettable image of a close friend. If his timeline is off by an hour as some suggest, then he arrived the same time as LE - to me, that means he had to be there prior LE to do the shorts swap. And, the missing wallet & phone - both had to be in the black shorts.
@@strix.1 there was an early report of someone claiming to see a white truck pull up, a guy jump out, takes Noah's shorts and leave white ones. I've been trying to find that, no luck yet. FYI - the FBI is not involved in the investigation as reported last week. It appears to be a misconception due to what LE told the family. The FBI is there if needed in the investigation and their help has not been solicited. LE is not even collecting evidence offered (Kaden's phone data), what evidence would the state DA even have to proceed with charges or prosecuting should it go to trial? Just ridiculous what's going on considering this is a potential homicide case.
@@strix.1 I recall an early report of someone to seeing a white truck pull up, a guy jump out, takes Noah's shorts and leave white ones. I've been trying to find that, no luck yet.
Interesting that Jack "apparently" gave washed??? black shorts back 2 family - but, did not give golf clubs - the possible unaliving or harming weapons - 2 family - instead Kayden spied them in the metal scrap pile @ the Newtons property!! .... they should have been returned 2 family - they actuality belonged 2 Dailen!
As I agree with you on his personal belongings being returned to family, there is a reason why they weren't! Also, the black shorts were not washed prior to them being given back. His brother washed them not realizing they could have possibly held evidence! Also, Paul Poucher in the Justice group on facebook stated they went to get his property, smelled bleach from 5 ft away from the door and looked in the window and saw some of Noah's property. He stated this was the day after his death!
Absolutely nobody should be victim blaming Noah. I haven't seen it but there's no reason whatsoever to do such a thing. Noah is the ONLY victim here
Common sense folded white shorts, that all by itself tells you foul play.
I wonder if those white shorts were tested for Noah's DNA
It was the fire fighter that folded the shorts because they were in the middle of the road.
@larissamello374 But they weren't even on sight when Jack ,Logan, Mikey and Breylin first arrived. No white shorts were on the scene and Noah had his black shorts on him and was laying on his side....not in the fetal position.
Seems like a jackass thing to do.
@@PinkyLaRue first Logan was not there. Second the other three never corroborated Kaden version of events. He also never did with a concrete evidence. Third two firefighters and two drivers saw the white shorts in the middle of the road.
If they were able to get all cellphone data from the cloud, search party house and Jack’s car & house, I think this would be solved
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There are cover-ups happening all the time. LE doesn’t want this crime to be looked at or investigated. I believe it’s because some of the kids at this party have/had family in law enforcement. Cops take care of cops, period. The shoes having grass and dirt within them may be because Noah was running. Noah was beaten to death. But by whom? Jack, Isaac, both, or more? I believe Kayden 1000%. He saw Noah with the black shorts on his person. Either the two truck drives removed the shorts, or Jack did. Maybe Jack told the two truck drivers to leave and when he was alone he took off the shorts. But, why? DNA evidence, humiliation? There’s too much going on and people NOT talking.
But believe the FBI is on the case because OPD screwed up.
In part 6 Kaden said when he was there Jack took the black shorts off of Noah, and dropped the beige or white shorts on the road. I believe Kaden 💯%. His account of events has always been consistent for me. And has no reason to lie. He's right to distance himself from those shady-ass people. No doubt Noah was beaten to death and the main people at the house helped cover it up. Jack has been controlling the narrative the whole time to influence people's perception of events. He said he knew Noah was beaten and it looked like by about 5 dudes.? So again he is controlling the narrative. Whenever he is adamant about things like knowing for sure it was a hit and run and knowing he was beaten that's when he is controlling the narrative. So we know for sure it wasn't a hit and run. That possibility has been completely ruled out and deemed impossible by experts. Jack keeps saying the "Texas kids" may have been involved but these mysterious Texas kids where and who are they? Do they even exist? I doubt it. And for sure if they were involved they wouldn't have hurt Noah intentionally? What a load of b.s.! But he's spinning it like these "Texas kids" beat Noah. So for me that tells me those are not the real numbers of "dudes" that beat Noah. Jack gives himself away every time. It was 2 "dudes" . Caleb and Jack. Any others involved were bit players. Caleb is who initiated the attack and Jack helped him. It's so obvious.
To add, where are the Texas kids in the videos
@@Cycy8080 Facts I was wondering the same thing. Usually the first person that starts blaming others is guilty. Trying to draw the attention from himself.. I want an interview with one of the texas boys they might tell the truth since Jack blamed them
I should have pointed out what he said about the front patio area being hosed down. That seems important, so I'm wrong to say the part two was nothing.
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Awesome videos. Thank you so much doing these videos and helping to get justice. We are praying for you all and KP.
I've seen other cases where Law Enforcement will hold all Timestamps from the public because it let's them know when someone's timeline statements are lies. Time, location, where, when is protected. No?
Omg clubs are gone? What is LE doing? Did they not go to the party house to ask questions?
I don't think LE has ever gone into the party house. If they have, it's to party and definitely not to do their jobs.
Honestly I just heard about Noah Presgrove case a couple days ago, and IMO I think a horrific accident took place 😢
Praying for Noah's family members and friends 🙏🏻 From Poconos PA
I think they had such a hard time removing the black they diecided against putting thè white shorts on him.
You make a good point
They didn’t take the cell phones because it was already decided it was a hit n run. In my personal opinion only.
Victim shamers are abusing their loved ones behind doors.
On one of the earliest podcasts “the full load” the family was told by Jasmine that they showered Noah after the accident bc he was covered with grass and dirt and the white shorts were put on him and they were very loose and big.
They were supposed to be Jack’s shorts though. Noah was taller and weighed more. Why would they be so loose?
@@Cycy8080 that’s true. I thought of them as like stretched out old sports shorts with no waist band but you are right. Do we know they were def Jacks? It’s difficult that there are no photos of crime scene, Noah’s body when it was found l, etc. The two inconsistencies are the shoes still being on and the shorts off. Assuming he was showered either he walked out naked or lost the white shorts somehow or something more sinister.
Is there any proof Noah ever had those baggy white shorts on? Consider the source, js.
@@susangehler4199 understandable but two MEs have said most likely Noah’s body was not moved. Due to lividity and his poor broken body. Like many pointed out - he was the biggest guy at the party.
If he had been killed there in the road there would have been a lot of blood yet there was one small spot from Noah's head there is NO WAY he was not moved there from where he was actually killed
This department is sounding like one of those , "good ole boys" departments , Internal Affairs needs to investigate and clean house.
Kaden is the only friend of Noah's speaking out openly. And he is calling out the people he cares about. I heard that Jack's Dad and Averys Dad was at the party Sunday night. I wish we could know if those true. Avery Dad is known as a Texas Boy. That's the rumor.
Why is the GoFundMe page goal set at $20,000 when investigator and attorney fees are likely to be much higher?
Someone said in a video early on they had to find some shorts to put on Noah after "the shower".
This is the only way I can figure as to the white shorts on the road: individual 1 wanted to get Noah's black shorts that may have evidence, laid them down on road while removing black shorts. Someone drove up & put everything to a halt. 😢
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I agree with you!
Yup, ran out of time to put white shorts on after removing the black shorts full of DNA.
Something interesting and to note mentioned by a psychologist was the fact the shorts were folded next to his body. She stated she thought that was something typical of female would do
Hi, when can we expect your next video about the Noel case? Thanks!
Tomorrow!
@@partnersintruecrimepodcast Thanks!
Denying any form of evidence makes absolutely no sense.
If Kaden saw Noah on the side of the road at before LE arrived an if Kaden said that Noah had ON a pair of black shorts…. Then I believe Kaden, but once LE arrived, Noah was nude. Who was there when LE arrived? Besides Jack, were the truck drivers there with Jack, then who removed Noah’s shorts?
Please ask her about her perspective about a possible fall off the back of a pick up truck! Please
Could you also ask the forensic expert, Jody, if Noah’s lungs could have been punctured by his broken bones, when his ribs or neck bones broke they in turn punctured the lungs? Thank you.
That doesn’t fit the narrative so that won’t be asked
@@whatknotcovfefe And then they ate him, like on Yellowjackets. So that must have been a body double on the side of the road, which explains why he didn't have Noah's shorts on...🤔
@@whatknotcovfefe I say this because my good friend was killed falling out of the back of a pick up his best friend was driving on a trail. The truck was not going fast as they were off roading but he fell square on the top of his head then rolled back. He had the same injuries as Noah. A large crack in his skull and high fractures and breaks in his neck almost like a hanging. Also his shoulder blades and collar bones were broken. Now If the pick up truck Noah was in (picked up by a party goer after he walked out after the fight) was driving fast this would explain the horrific injuries. Noah drunk fell out, hit the road square on his head the impact crushed downward breaking his head, neck, shoulder and collar bone, ribs and puncturing his lungs. As the fall likely incapacitated him right away this explains why his limbs were intact- he went limp. When he hit he bit down on his tongue and cracked his teeth. The one wrench is he still had his shoes on. Now I know this isn’t the story everyone wants of a gangland beat down but it still implicates foul play and a cover up. To me Kaden is telling the truth but bc of the trauma of seeing his friend dead he mis remembers the time- exactly an hour off. Also if you talk to police- a witnesses story can vary widely. He saw Noah the entire night wearing those black shorts. Could he have just inserted Noah wearing the shorts? Not sure. We will find out when Kadens phone is forensically checked out for call times, geo tracking etc.
Exactly the first guy that called 911 said that noah was naked, then kaden came afterwards and said noah was wearing the black shorts, Then the officer came after abd said noah was naked
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Does anyone know if Noah’s hair was wet when they found him?? I’ve got a feeling they took the shorts off noah because they were soaking wet..If the cops had found him in wet shorts they would’ve searched the house..
Jasmines hair was wet in the picture as well
Is it wet or greasy? I honestly can't tell in her picture.
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thank u for ur work🤗🫶🏼
Last proof of life of Noah was Kaden seen him at 243am in kitchen with Jasmin and Jack and a few others? Missing post at 341 by jasmin. What happen between that time ? Jack said later Noah was dead at 4am ? 515am jack comes through door saying Noahs dead, then the 911 calls 543am? Or 618? Wow. No searchcwarrents yet luminal for porch and house and sheds, barns,trucks, ⚖🦮⚖🦮
Absolutely they would have been talking about showering Noah!
Was Noah was dragged by the side by side? Which would explain most of his injuries. Cleaned up of the blood & dumped, made to look like a hit-and-run. Just not planned out very well?! Is this a decent hunch🤔
Why take shorts off him but leave shoes on or put shoes back on? That would be difficult?
I feel so sad for Noah because of the way he died, it's cruel and very sad for such a young man who had dreams but can't live it now. RIP Noah, I hope the truth will come out soon so your family can get the closure they need to heal from your loss, heartbreaking..
Has Tyler given any interviews?
Via his Facebook comments that I read Tyler Hardy was there at about 5:45 until 10.. and the 911 call was at 5:48.
That's disturbing to me that there's no time stamp on reports. That screams foul play in my opinion and experiences from the law enforcement in my community. Every way they have dismissed and approached this case is screaming foul play. It's sad because I know what Noah's family is going through because I have gone through it. My father was murdered 21 Year's ago right in front of my little brother, my grandma and myself By the CHP. There's so many red flags in the way they started the case in my opinion. I am praying for Noah and his family, sending love and support for you all.
Are you going to interview jack and Isack and slap boy on porch and the other guys that was there? Party hosts ? The adults that moved the guns? I admire Kaden speaking up. Not being a follower ..lead the way Kaden like Noah would.⚖🦮🦮🌳🌳😇🌊⛱🌊⛱🌻
Or Mikey. I read that Mikey went into an Emergency Mental Health Facility after Noah's Death
Where was this party Camp Cristal Lake???😳
Im new to this case but what i want to know is why was jack allowed to stay on the scene while kaden and others were told to leave? And how did jack know noah had died before everyone else? Why is he the one telling the other kids their friend was deceased? Where was he during the hours of 2:43 and 5:15?
Exactly
Justice for Noah Page just said that Noah was beaten outside on the patio behind the house. And that there was water on the patio as if Noah was washed by the hose. If Jacks father was at the scene at 5:30 am and Jacks father confirmed that Jack called called him and said Noah had passed. If its an hour drive from Jacks house to the scene it seems Jack knew around 4am ish that Noah passed. Is any of this true.
But if noah was getting beaten up, wouldn't kaden have heard it?
Jack did tell Justin Roy that Noah died at 4am. It's on a screenshot in the Noah's Army group.
Numerous people say they have seen the shower. It may have been removed by law enforcement doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Are you going to interview Kadens Mom? Jack? Caleb? Issac ? Slap boy? Truckers?
Between the first 911 call and second call is when the shorts were taken off. Im sure the first man that called 911 is the man that made Kaden leave but jack could stay they removed the shorts and left!!! And the first 911 caller calls. Who is that guy? Im sure he knows jack 🙄🙄
I think they drove Noah from the house property to 81 on the ATV and he was falling off of it and where he fell off the ATV is where they left him. I think they definitely moved him off the party property , and I think it was hard to hold him on the ATV and he just fell off it.
If the shoes were put on him wouldn't they have someone else's DNA?
No one checked I spose, and kad3n said one was his. The question is why they had grass and such in them, why was he in a hurry to leave.
I have a theory about the shorts y'all tell me what you think: Someone took the black shorts off thinking they had evidence. The white shorts were intended to replace the black ones. They weren't able to get the white shorts on Noah for some reason, maybe someone drove up.
Shorts were part of the cover up. I believe they belonged to someone else, not Noah's.
@susangehler4199 I agree with your shorts theory
If caleb left his phone at home on pourpose his phone would ping at home if he wanted to help clean up or party or cheat ect he would know to leave his phone at home to make it look like he was home. To cops or to his wife ...
Maybe law enforcement didn't take Kadens phone because they didnt see Kaden as a Suspect.
But it could have evidence
Did the cops take Jack’s phone? Did the cops take Corey’s phone?
They supp have noahs.
Do you mean Kaden? I'm not sure who Corey is.
Were the black shorts washed wh3n they returned to his brother?
He must have eaten way earlier in the night if it was already digested.
Yea !! Jody is back 😇🤗🤗🥳🥳
That Jack with his arrogant attitude & dark glasses is loading a lot of suspicion upon himself, this unspeakable murder required evidently a mind that he evidently doesn't have but he may be under psychological pressure to protect that sick mind not part of him
I'm confused the guy that first called 911 said that noah was naked, Then kaden came afterwards and saw noah wearing black shorts, then the police officer came afterwards said noah was naked.
Kaden was there earlier, before the first 911 call or police were ever on scene. That’s why so many are trying to say he’s “misremembering” and his timeline is wrong. If he actually did see Noah in the black shorts, but the 911 caller nor police did, then it’s obvious someone will have a desecration of a corpse charge for removing the black shorts from a deceased Noah.
I thought the person that called 911 said he was naked and that no one was at the scene, just him
If Jack wS Noahs best fruebd and a friend to Kaden why isnt Jack on this interview talking haveing his friebd Kadens back ?
Carter - Jacks fiance - Noahs ex GF ... he may have had a fight with Carter ... i wouldnt b surprised if Carter still had eyes 4 Noah & really authenticity did not want 2 b with Jack ... since then wedding called off ...
Wondering if anyone did a u turn around that time.
The Kaden part was kinda nothing. Not really that interested in his unrelated tubing accident, lol. I do appreciate the work you've obviously put in unseen, developing and keeping a relationship with Kaden and his family, but there are SO many questions he could clear up that probably wouldn't conflict with his legal situation. Maybe you can gather up some more questions from your viewers and run them by his family?
Probably not much left after they edited to coincide with what TH has said
@@Wewantrealnews TH, meaning Tyler Hardy?
I honestly heard nothing knew. I almost thought they were Kaden’s lawyer. They do not ask the questions people who really know the case have in mind.
I think the point is to get him to tell us about a verified event, his injury. That gives you insight on how he speaks when recalling events. He says "um" alot even when he is recalling the knee injury event. Where some might see that as him stalling to think of a lie to tell, it's just the way he speaks. He is speaking in the same tone, the same manner telling both the stories, the one about his knee injury and his recollection of events with the party. Proof he is telling what he feels is true on both stories.
So the truck driver had to be involved too?
I want to add to this if someone can please ask the people that were there when they saw cadence red Jeep pulling up can somebody please ask the two grown adults that were there the servicemen and the semi truck driver if Jack had mentioned anything when they were pulling up can you please have these guys leave that's why the the semi driver or the service man who told Kayden to leave that they had to leave need to be asked were they asked to leave because Jack made it clear to them right before they got off the car cuz Jackson them coming please have them leave because Jack's dad was coming and Jack's dad told no told listen where Noah was and to make sure that he was going to go and remove his shorts that were evidence and then Jack ended up going back to the house he said and picking up some black shorts to put on Noah and he said he found them on the on the road which was a lie and he put him on his bed of his truck that right there needs to be asked what guy asked Kayden to leave to me that's really good evidence if Jack had asked the guy please have them leave
For Jodi, they ruled out hit & run can they rule out accident too
So is everyone against this one boy now?
Cover up if you ask me . Probably a fight broke out at party house. Involves who ? Jack and the girls or the parents 🤔 jigsaw puzzle just need to find the right piece's.god bless noah family and noah friends.
The continuity of events is incongruent...has anyone explored the internalized bigotry possibility...Noah was Native American...when the victim & his defender are being brutalized, as Shakespeare wrote in Hamlet, "There is something rotting in Denmark."
Jack was playing the game riding on the hood of truck. Drinking/ drunk. Dragging Noah from truck to side of roadway ?
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Yeah so those white shorts were baggy and that must be why they came off on the road when the hit&run happened. They were Jack's shorts so no wonder his DNA could be on them. That's just the short of it. Period. Move along now,
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Jack was shorter and weighed less than Noah why would his shorts be too big?
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I wanna hear from jack his father and Tyler hardy. That’s who I want to speak
Tyler hardy Said when he was there no one was at the scene but kaden came before him and said jack and some other guy were at the scene. So how did tyler not see jack and the other guy.