Epic Spoiler Alert: Where FFVII Rebirth's Journey Ends!
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2023
- 🚨 Epic Spoiler Alert! 🚨 Dive deep with me into the mesmerizing world of Final Fantasy VII as we uncover where "Rebirth's" journey will come to a dramatic pause. A surprise revelation from none other than Tetsuya Nomura himself has got all of us buzzing with anticipation. And with that looming question: Will Square Enix dare change one of the most iconic moments in gaming history? Let's discuss!
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They will let her live even if i agree with you that they should not.
If they let her live there will be another dramatic sacrifice in her place. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they kill cloud instead and in the last part it's zack and the rest of the crew
More details got revealed in the newest article on PlayStation blog and other interviews:
- 100 hours of gameplay
- You will "control sephiroth in the same part as the original game"
- Not all party members will be playable until part 3, but those that you can not control will be companion characters like Red XIII was in part 1. (This problaly hints that Cid will be a guest character like Red was in Remake)
- No save data transfer, but you get Leviathan for Remake and Ramuh for Intermission episode save data
No data transfer!!!????
Cid is the man in the black cloak in Junon. He's there to steal the Highwind while everyone is distracted by the parade.🤯
*100% She will Survive THAT scene to make you scream of joy then they will kill her 1 hour later surprising everyone... again*
Aerith being killed by Sephiroth needs to happen. They can do some magic stuff later to save her or something but that scene needs to be there.
it will happen at the last sequel REUNION
Aerith lives, sets up a flower stand and is never mentioned again.
@@noelortiz4004 it's in this game, their twitter thread comfirmed it pal
No whack cloud. No cloud no sephiroth.
I’m leaning towards Tifa dying… sephiroth a giggles and flies off… cloud shuts down, delivers black materia and falls into life stream… team is left alone looking up at meteor…. Cloud gone, Tifa dead… but a glimmer of hope exists.. Zack maybe… aerith with the white materia…. But a hopeless feeling all the same to lead into the finale
I think the clue is in the title regarding Aerith. 🤔
Really looking forward to this after seeing that trailer. I cant wait to see Cosmo Canyon and controlling Nanaki aka Red XIII in battles.
Sephiroth dramatically falls from the sky and stabs Cait Sith instead
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I hope she doesnt die
I know she will but I hope she doesnt. It would open a door for new possibilities.
Gotta happen, gang. You can see it in her eyes the entire first game. It is her destiny.
I was 12 when I played FFVII and I didn't like that Aeris died. I was sad and kept thinking "maybe she'll come back?" and I was annoyed that my party member was gone. That bothered me for the rest of the game thinking she might come back and never did. That was probably my least favorite moment of VII, so I'll be interested to see what SE do with that story element in the remake.
Yeah i thought so too. But as i got older i started to like the fact that in other final fantasies some characters always could die during the story. Made it more real and i’m glad they also do that with some characters in FF16.
Yea I feel you man! I was about the same age when I played the game for the first time! It always bothered me that she was just gone as a playable character. But as an adult seeing the story as a whole and what the death of her means for the whole party, it just makes sense.
I’m also incredibly excited of what SE will do with it or HOW they do it.
So if the game concludes at forgotten capital why did we not get any info about Cid? Rocketown visit and tiny bronco sequence are essential for the progress of the story
Rockettown did feel kind of out of place and pointless for that time in the story. So i don’t mind if it got cut.
Just saying that they did say the places you visit won’t be in the same order but he did mention the Reunion and there are clips of the rocky looking Northern Crater area. It might just be a flashback/future memory of the other universe where they meet up there though.
1:51 lol Mr. Stabby
This is one way Aerith could survive and also give us a happier ending for both Zack and Cloud.
Due to the way the original timeline has been altered, and fate has been changed, some key moments will be different. Aerith could survive this time around, due to Cloud having glimpses of the previous fate which had been altered, knowledge of the original timeline could allow Cloud to circumvent her death during those 7 seconds alluded to in Sephiroth's warning at the end of Remake. Those 7 seconds mentioned in Remake are the same 7 seconds it took for Sephiroth to kill Aerith.
It would make sense for the trilogy to be called, Remake, Rebirth & Reunion.
- Remake: Fate being destroyed and time fractured into split timelines.
- Rebirth: Regaining lost memories, dead characters brought back from alternative timelines
- Reunion: Previously dead and alive characters are now reunited in one merged timeline
With fate being destroyed in Remake, Zack has now survived but is lost in an alternative timeline, where events played out differently, different characters died and lived, with only a few similar things remaining the same.
Reunion could have multiple meanings in FF7 now, it could mean the reunion of characters that were once dead, it could mean the reunion of multiple timelines merging at one big canon event such as when finding where Sephiroth's real body is being kept in the cave after he fell into the lifestream.
Zack is dead in one universe and alive in another, but Cloud could be alive in both, and Aerith could be alive in both which gives her this foresight. Sephiroth is most certainly alive in both timelines although presumed dead, and frozen in the north cave after falling into lifestream ending up in the same place in both timelines.
Other characters who might have died like Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie could be either dead or alive in another timeline depending on how fate left things off for them in Remake.
The visions of Sephiroth that we are seeing could be coming from both versions of Sephiroth trapped in the cave from both timelines.
To wake one would wake the other and, so doing would merge the timelines. So Reunion can happen.
I have a feeling somehow the timelines will merge, with Sephiroth and Jenova both resurrected and more powerful than before, Zack will come back to life from another timeline, whilst anyone that died in both timelines stays dead, but if they are alive in one of them they will come back to life, but any characters that are alive in both timelines either merge into one being, with the same memories or there are now two of them which would be a bit too crazy.
The multiple forms of Sephiroth we see during the game could be from both versions of him from two different timelines... making him a stronger enemy than before.
Zack and Cloud both fighting a more powerful Sephiroth together would be cool combined with the story still playing out very similarly but with resurrected characters. Meteor is still coming only now they can stop it together.
Cloud's feelings and love for Aerith were merely a copy of Zack's feelings due to having Zack's memories mixed into his own, but once Cloud has regained his memories, he now knows about his true past and remembers how he felt about Tifa. Cloud could potentially realize his feelings and love for Tifa were being suppressed by his confused copied feelings from Zack for Aerith.
Cloud remembers he wanted to protect Tifa after the way she almost died as a kid, and those feelings were still there just locked away due to Zack's memories. Tifa was his first love and she was the reason Cloud signed up to become a Soldier to begin with. With both Zack and Cloud alive now and having reclaimed lost memories and feelings, they are now both able to have a happier ending, as they are both able to rekindle their love for Tifa and Aerith respectively.
I’m in the Aerith should survive camp. I’ve always had the impression the original ending of FF7 was actually a bad ending. When you see Red Xlll running to the cliff with his kids, it’s clear to me humanity has been wiped out. I think with the death of Aerith, it actually dooms humanity to a slow extinction, as the planet still believes that humans are a scourge. I can’t help but think there’s a larger threat going on that we don’t know about, that comes to light with Aerith surviving. As gamers, I hear so many times I wish I could replay for my favourite game again not knowing what will happen. This is the closest we’ll get to that feeling. We know these characters and this story, but something is different. Personally, I’m all for the change. I do get fully understand the perspective of people wanting it to stay the same. I just think it’s more exciting not knowing what will happen next to these characters we’ve come to love over the years.
Is this part going to be open world though. I want to get my summons and limits early.
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I hope Aerith does go. I want the game to remain true to the original. A huge reason why 7 is so beloved is because of her sacrifice. It's a huge memory milestone. People might hate it, but it is something that isn't forgotten and I think that's important.
They have to kill her off. She can't just be replaced by someone else's death either. Her death was important for a reason not just for story, but for gameplay. I think Zack will still be dead because that is an alternate timeline. Honestly it feels like they are adding Final Fantasy 8 elements into FF7 who knows maybe part 3 will have Ultimecia as a secret boss.
Lol @ ultimecia
Haha, with Ultimecia... they could probably make that work!
i dont think they should change Aerith death scene but boy am i worried if they can pull it off as well this time with it being the expected outcome and more worried that they may change it an it be completely underwhelming i for one remember the shock of the death the unexpected sudden loss of a partymember was insane impactful at the time and with it now expected worried for square to do it justice
End of disk 2? Makes sense.
Edit. Yes it should end the same but they can grow this moment if they want it doesn't have to be the exact same.
Maybe they put in multiple endings here and continue part 3 without her
He may kill cloud instead and have Zack take over in cloud’s stead
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(Spoiler warning for newcomers of FFVII Remake, Rebirth and whatever part 3 will be called)
Well, Remake already changed the story drastically at the end, hinting that the rest of the story will be different. Hence why it says "The Unknown Journey Will Continue". So don't be surprised if Aerith survives at the end.
The same reason Zack is alive this time (or when the citizens from Remake survived from the plate falling on Midgar). Even though Zack is from a different timeline, my guess is that he'll appear in the other timeline to change Aerith's fate somehow.
Bummer, I thought it could end until the Northern Crater, seeing as how it's where the reunion happens and they chose to name it that
Oi Fuzzy how are u doing! Did u like the Rebirth Trailer? I trust u did! Yes we know how it ends, thats true cause we re all drom FF7 in 1997. I think( but who am I) that Aerith dont get killed there by Sephi! Dont know but its my feeling about this one!
I am goof thanks mate! How you been keeping? Yeah, you could be right!
I hope no one dies this time
She will die, she has too... the feels when you played the og clip...I dont think it will ever be topped but eagerly awaiting Rebirth.
Would be interesting if Tifa dies instead of Aerith on some Steins Gate-ish. Because there are multiple timelines Aerith dying helped at the end of FF7 original but it did not eradicate Sephiroth from the lifestrean
I think they need to whack cloud. If cloud dies so does sephiroth. They are connected at the hip.
Wow I knew it that was my suspicion before FF7 remake was first released however it was such a small chance so I didn't think much of it. After that and the Rebirth trailer I thought it was possible especially when it just showed the world enemies and Elainor.
This isn't very far into the game at all it would of made more sense to show the chocobos, more Yuffie, Vincent, Cait Sith, Golden sorcer or Correl. Sure it showed up until Cosmo Canyon but nothing further until that point and where was Vincent?
Why has it been like 2 months and has only showed the locations enemies and very minimal story besides Kalm? I know gaming development is hard and takes time don't get me wrong.
I found it to be quite unrevealing when it came to content compared to other trailers just Kalm, enemies, Eleanor and world, Cosmo Canyon, chocobo farm that's all?
Now my suspicions has now been confirmed they ended it at the forgotten city. I knew this was going to end there at some point because of that moment but will this mean it will pace itself too quickly or more releases like Remake and Rebirth? Someone will mod a few things without saying too much spoilers unless square pulled something up officially.
Yeah still quite some way to go through the end unless a lot of content is cut or they make it into 5 games
I'm not upset about arith death, I'm more frightened on how sephiroth comes down with no glove and stabs her and he's got gloves on.
I can see them changing Aerith's death because the themes of the remakes are different from the original game, Aerith surviving could fit this new story better.
I was about to say that
Definitely. It'll be interesting to see where they take the storyline since it's definitely a remaster and a remake.
My thought on the subject. Aerith will die after a better between Cloud Zac and Sephiroth. The battle starts when Cloud blocks the killing blow. He has a flashback to the old time line. Zack is about to die by Sephiroth sword and Aerith stands in from of him saving the love of her life. The rest of the scene plays out with Holy dropping out of her hair but it is Zack that lays her to rest. 😭😭😭
Wow, so Zack would be leading the funeral instead of Cloud... maybe!
Yeah I think Zack will play a role there as he was the original hero and is still alive now
I have a theory on how this game will play out thematically…. At least this is how I would do this.
I believe Zack’s survival is in an alternate reality. One that is slowly merging into the main one. Sephiroth has a line in the trailer about the Reunion being where the worlds come together.
Also Aerith has partial, but not full, knowledge of the future via the lifestream and also makes statements about changing fate.
I suspect that we’ll be seeing Zack’s story play out as he realizes that in order to stop Sephiroth, he needs to restore fate, while simultaneously Aerith is realizing that in order to stop Meteor, her sacrifice is necessary for her prayer to reach the Planet. This will result in a climax where Aerith will sacrifice herself as in the OG while Zack is simultaneously completing his objective which results in his ceasing to exist and which restores his death in the timeline.
That's cool I guess. I don't trust square-enix to even come up with that. Still think they should have just remade the original, not waiting to introducing sephiroth until after midgar was a mistake. Plus new fans would have no idea why Aeris kills herself to "realine fate". Square is going to go bankrupt. Sad but when they start venturing into "crypto" along with "loot box" territory, it proves there not making games for fans anymore, old or new. Still wanna know how much money was stolen with that weird not-ff7 battle royal game. They would have sold 20+ million copies if they would have just remade the game, I doubt they hit 10 with the collective "trilogy" of the remake, if we get a finished "trilogy". I'm probably not buying anymore "ff7" games. Maybe when the "trilogy" is finished and is heavily discounted as a set. They had one chance to remake ff7, and they royally messed up, all in the name of greed.
Interesting theory, thanks for sharing!
So it ends at the end of disc one so no Knights of the round no gold chocobo
The group would still need to save the world if she lives but perhaps we will at least have an opportunity to save her
I want to watch but also dont wann spoil anything 😅
Imagine if this time around, Aerith intends to die as before but Sephiroth refuses to/keeps her alive for his plan to come to fruition. And it leads to Aerith begging cloud or zack to kill her to stop him. I think that would be heart wrenching
Well Sephiroth knows what kind of fate awaits him if he were to be the one to kill her, and therefore repeating history and the same mistake his past self made. So the only thing I can see happening if Aerith is to die is Cloud will be the one to kill her, and that will be something if it were to happen.
I think sephiroth will aim to kill tifa then arith will jump in front of the blade and still end up dying in the end that way she can still ruin sephiroth' s plan
I don't believe they should change her death. I do wonder if the scene will change the rating from a T to an M (Mature). I remember in Tales of Berseria they changed the opening because of an impalement scene.
Ooh yeah could do!
I mean they did keep Briggs and Wedge alive as well so I don't think they'll let her die
Four more years, can wait for 2028 for this nightmare to end.
Maybe part 3 won't be another four years... Square might be dead by then!
Boss dyne ?
If anyone saves her i think it will be Zack
As long as u have a FF7 crisis core savegame on ur ps5 she will be saved 🤡😆
My gripe is summons. I don't like how you have to do some digital shit. I should be able to find materia and use them to my liking like the og. I would say maybe give bosses a stat boost like they do for sephiroth if you use kotr against jenova at the end fight
No summons shouldn’t be like in the OG. Stop being so set on how things were in the original, the summon system currently makes them more meaningful than they were in the OG. In the OG the early summons quickly become obsolete, the way it’s designed now is MUCH better.
@@ZxChrono I like the direction their taking for the most part actually. Its just the summons lose their epicness when u get them from some ff13 looking kid in some oculus ass digital world. I mean wouldn't you prefer they revamp the ice queen to some bad ass optional boss battle for Alexander? That sounds way fuckin better then talking to some fuckin Hope looking kid. Hell I wouldn't even mind fighting the summons after u find them. I think you know I'm right. Ur just gonna double down cuz I'm going against the grain. I'm all for a refresh and a new take. Hell I don't even mind the watchers bulsshit that's dumb to but I'm coo with that.
Your right the early summons do lose their umph, but some simple lines of code change that. Plus I don't think any of us even then expected choco/mog to do 5000 damage at any point haha
Will the other rumours end up true, Cloud dies instead of Aerith and Zack takes over.
Anything could happen!
i think 100$€ for a 100h game is too much ngl. If the game end's in that spot. What we are going to get 1 game for each disc.... 180€$ for the total package.
True, games are just incredibly expensive nowadays. Both to develop, and for us to buy.
If Aerith doesn’t die it kinda ruins the climax of the game.
I think she should die in the same point of the story and be revived in the end.
Aerith will probably die, but not by sephy directly. Sephy in this version of FF7 knows why he lost last time, and one of the big reasons is because by killing Aerith, she only got stronger and was able to block the meteor. So Id wager he’d being to kill Tifa, as Tifa set clouds mind straight, and basically led to his defeat. Then Aerith would step in to take the blow. Idk where zack comes in though, from what I can tell he’s in a completely different timeline.
basically in the original story while Aerith doesn't outright say it you can see it become true towards the end of the game. the punchline I'm referring to is the iconic line from Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars Episode 4 A New Hope during his fight with Darth Vader "If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
Do people really think they would tell us where the game ends? That's just effing stupid, either it's a bad translation of the interview or we don't understand context. And Weapon doesn't awaken until after the Forgotten Capital and the Northern Crater.
Cloud will die instead, and Zack will take over.
Worst idea ever
I cant believe items wont transfer
It should be the same as FF 16 so no it won't be open world
She should die her non death will change the ending and meteor would destroy the world
I REALLY do need to try and push through FF7 remake don't I 😂 I agree with you though Fuzz, the story should stay as it is
Haha, good to hear from you mate.
It's actually really good. I've played the og and I'm happy with the new. Let them finish the story before you judge it.
I want her to live simply because people want her to die again so badly 🤣
Also, don't really like universal constant / fixed shit in story-telling.
Not going to play it if they kill her off again not going to do it
Yup kill her off pls.
Loved FF7 & Aerith for years but sadly she needs to go as it's too big of a moment in gaming history to change and would leave a super bad taste in my mouth afterwards. Hopefully they stay true to the original in this scene.
Yes, she should still die! I don't like saying it but without her death, the rest of the story just falls apart!
Yeah, the third game would feel weird if she was alive and with the party still...
let her die, she was one one the worst characters in the game
Don't trust Square period
Personally, i think Tetsuia Numora tenancy to try to outdo Hirinobo Sakiguchi it going to make square keep Aries alive. I cant see them reviving Zack and killing Aries.
I also cant see them killing Zack later in the game because that would make Zack look more heroic than Cloud and Square are cloud fanboys these day's
So dont forget to eat your vegetables kiddies
Yeah, you never know with Square!
Aeris must die! I will be modding her name back to its European coolness.
Nah. I believe cloud will die in this game. Then zack take over cloud lead and the alternate cloud is abducted by sep.
I am absolutely not ready to re-live Aerith's death in the detail of modern gaming graphics 🥲. I do think her death will remain permanent, the game needs to have that shock value and not fall into the trap of just reviving every character, we need that emotional connection!