@@lil_cali714___ He did love portal. Even asked Maggie if she could be his GlaD0S. If I remember correctly. I know he talked about Portal though. Cool guy.
Rick was right in my opinion. He wanted Negan to feel the pain that his victims felt by losing something or someone so special to them and it worked. Negan is a new man now all thanks to the guilt that Rick knew he would experience by keeping him alive so he can suffer just like he and the rest of his friends and family did.
Ok so if hilter got reformed you'd be cool freeing him? Sometimes it doesn't matter if they regret and become a new man the evil they do can only be resolved with their death
that pain was something no one in that world wpuld of understood besides rick and negan bc they not only suffer with the lives they took but the lives they lead other to take and who they lead to damnation with them thinking they were leading them to a better world for example rick always has to live with the fact he started the war w negan after deciding to attack the outpost which cost both sides so many lives. This is also shown in the dynamite scene with daryl thinking the death of the innocent would be on negan but rick understanding since he started the war those lives would be on them but more specifically rick just like how every time negan lead his men into battle he would regret the innocent on his side and the people on the other side since negan believe he could bring in this people and work together (even tho he’d still kill one of them he’s made it clear thats bc hed rather lose 1 random than 100 of his own which if ur looking at it as part of negans group who prolly been through this and know a war would only lead to useless death on both sides would be down w this solution it’s literally posed at 1 or 100 to them and most people will pick the 1 random over 100 loved ones even if those people have a chance of also becoming loved ones
Everything Rick was trying to build just completely flew over Daryl and Maggie’s head. I think after Rick “died” they felt bad because the weren’t grateful for him. It’s why Daryl left to be on his own for 6 plus years.
@@az_ax5 After Rick left the show they did a 6 year time jump and during those 6 years Daryl was living on his own in the woods. He was so depressed since he thought Rick died he wanted to be alone.
@@GLITCHED1 a man is always held accountable for theyre actions. We don't get to blame anyone else or call it a mistake. They all should have Known that this was not a man to trifle with
@@JayV98 This argument was always flimsy to me. If someone bashed your lover's head in and "changed" in 10 years, would you really at all be willing to forgive and forget?
@@HopwireThis argument is also flimsy because the worth of a human life isn't dependent on whether a victim can forgive and forget. I think people cover this topic wrong from the beginning. It's not about Negan changing. Rick didn't lock him up so that he could change. He locked him up to prove to everyone that a new era is among them. Where you face real consequences for your actions instead of dying. You live with your mistakes until you rot in a cage after years. It's an act of mercy and discipline at the same time. Two virtues that are absolutely needed to rebuild humanity.
If you think about it Daryl is the one who got Glenn killed. Abraham was the cost for Negan’s outpost people. Glenn was just another example that Negan is serious and Rick’s group needed a second reason to understand that.
Yeah Negan points it out in the lineup, he only intended to just hit Abraham. I'm pretty sure he was ready to scramble up half the group if needed be. Thankfully no one else pulled a Daryl after Glenn.
@@JRMAV1 negan is only looked as thr bad guy cuz the show isn't from his pov. They killed his men and then some. He only killed two people and would've been fine with just killing 1 til daeyl hit him like an idiot. Rick and Daryl done twisted things too
At the time nobody would understand but began changed over time with the help of Rick imprisoning him. Made him feel all the guilt and let him wreath in his own sorrow
He never said that, Rick wouldn't dare say that to his brother. They were way too close, literally fighting each other is more sensitive than saying that
He didn’t keep him alive in hopes that he would change. He kaput him alive because it’s what Carl wanted. Carl wanted to believe that there was still humanity left in the group. If Rick was still with the group negan would either be dead or still locked up. There is an episode in season 10 that explained all of this
@CJ Cruz right, and I think it's fair to consider whisperers as not human. they want to pretend like they're walkers? I'll call and treat them so. Governor and Alpha were psychopaths, every other villain is redeemable.
@@deathkage779 You missed the reason for why he said that. He didn't want to kill Abe or Glenn over again. He wanted to save his people and if killing everyone to save them was the key, he would've done it.
looking back i realize how bad of a job the writers did with that episode, really wish they wouldve just gone with glenn's true comic book death or just killed abraham. in the most anticipated episode of a show ever they killed off two beloved characters and made us hate another, daryl, for being so dumb. no wonder that was the point most viewers dropped off
It’s sad to know this is the last time he sees him besides when Rick is on the bridge. Even tho Daryl was kinda mad at him in this it shows that Daryl did love Rick no matter what decision he made but sometimes it’s not the right decision
@@ChyloeReece I thought the show fell off after Alexandria and I just gave up on the show with the death of Carl. But it seems clear that Negan and Daryl are the two fan favorite characters for those still watching.
@bobbydontdothat2843 Actually, you don't know what the f##k you are talking about. In season 1, Ep3, Daryl said chokehold is illegal, and Shane said well you can file a complaint. Then there is some episode in s8 where Rick and Daryl fight and Rick said chokehold is illegal a##hole and Daryl said yes it is.
People really love to forget the monster Negan is. He had his crew pillage groups before Ricks group even made contact with them, he made wives of all his men’s girlfriends and spouses, killed glen. And it all only worked out in peoples mind cause he lived and changed but it could have had a similar outcome without him.
Agreed. It never fails to amaze me how desperate people are to completely excuse and justify everything Negan ever did or said and blaming it on someone else instead, as long as it is not him that gets blamed smh
@@shelbylittle5354 Exactly. I don't doubt that he changes later on and genuinely regrets it once he was put in the same spot with Annie and the Commonwealth, but before that Negan legit told Maggie that the only thing he regrets is not killing them all back then and that he would do it again if he could. But nah, let's all blame Daryl, Maggie and everyone else that's against Negan and Rick's decision (that he made all by himself only because of Carl's letter without telling anyone else first) for legitimate reasons instead, THEY'RE the bad guys and traitors smh.
@@Kalakeiko Yeah. Negan has been the bad guy ever since the outbreak and long before Rick's group started taking out his men (which is partially why they did it). He was doing the same thing to all surrounding communities. He brutally killed Glenn and Abraham in front of loved ones all while laughing about it and forcing them to watch. Idrc if he's changed, that alone was MORE than enough to kill him regardless if that's what Carl wanted and I loved Carl but that was one of the biggest mistakes Rick made; keeping him alive as long as they did. The longer he lived, the more people got killed. I also hate how people treat everything Negan did like an "oopsy daisy" type of mistake like that was no where near a mistake. 😭
@@shelbylittle5354 Agreed. I don't mind if people like Negan now, but I hate how the majority of them seems to just overlook and excuse all of his actions, the same goes for Rick and Michonne tbh, but as soon as someone else makes a mistake, they'll be blamed and bashed for years, no matter what else they'll do later on to "redeem themselves". If Carl hadn't written the letter Rick would've killed Negan like it was planned and if Negan had killed someone else that was close to Rick, he DEFINITELY would've killed him, so him making the decison to let Negan live after everything he's done all on his own without telling anyone about it first just because Carl changed his mind isn't right at all and it's really frustrating.
@@jackdouglas9163 bruh he eventually was gonna die if u read the comics and the actor himself wanted to leave and go out the same way he did in the comics
Glenn was last mail holding the house together for all of them He was the literal glue of the group shows he even after so much time and stuff how he still has an impact on them….
Yeah kind of he needed to hear the other argument so he comes back with a stronger and firmer belief in his own. I 100% agree with Rick it was in fact Daryls and maggies doing that led to what happened to the group. Sure Ricks plan had flaws but it was the most logical and best plan they had. Negans fallen group was hostile because of Maggie and Daryl they hated that Maggie was treating them harshly because of what Negan did which lead some of them to believe that is was better with Negan because they lived a better life and on top of that they had to work for Maggie in building the bridge so they felt like salves doing a lot of work for only a tiny reward. Rick treated them well however he was angry but realized that it didn’t help him and that instead of killing them and making it worse he wanted to be the better person and honour his son by respecting his final wishes. Rick out of all of them wanted to kill Negan the most but didn’t want his sons death to be in vain Maggie doesn’t see it that way while sure it was bad for Negan to kill Glenn and leave her a pregnant widow compared to what Rick lost it’s not even close even if we exclude all of the other deaths except his sons death Rick still had it harder since that was his SON which is way harder to lose than a wife or husband. I know it sounds harsh or even cruel to say but nothing can compare to the loss of your child your partner means a lot to you but your child is your all.
Exactly, notice how whenever a person from the group went missing he was always the one looking for them. Sophia, Beth and when Denise got killed he wanted to avenge her. He's such a loyal friend and all he wants is the best for all of his friends. And he still feels guilt for Glenn,Beth and Hershel so he's extremely adamant on siding with Maggie and letting her get the one thing she wants AKA Negans death.
Alright a little opinion post: something that really frustrates me about this point Rick is selfish. Because he didn’t seem to actually UNDERSTAND how much damage Negan did (his decisions and physical choices) to everyone. Just in Rick’s group alone: he tortured Daryl, he killed Glenn and Abraham leaving Maggie’s child without a father, he got Sasha killed, Denise died, he did get Carl killed because Carl wouldn’t have been out alone which meant he wouldn’t have gotten bit, he basically destroyed Alexandria, his men killed all of Jadis’ people, and due to all his actions it started a war which got many innocent people killed along the way - and yet just because Carl said to basically let Negan live, Rick went with it If it were anyone else’s kid who suggested that, Rick wouldn’t have listened. But because it was Carl, Rick let Negan live - Rick and Michonne (in my opinion) turned agaisnt their group and dismissed their feelings because Carl thought otherwise and because Carl was ricks son, it meant what he wanted he got. I was pissed at Carl when he wrote those letters saying how “there has to be another way” becahse to me it seemed like he just completely forgot about how many people have died by the hands of Negan But I can’t express to anyone enough about how angry it made me that just because it was Carl, then it meant that they had to do what he wanted as his final wish - again, what about everyone else who have died What if Denise’s final wish was to kill Negan? What if Glenn’s final wish was for Maggie to shoot Negan as revenge? What if Abrahams final wish was that both rosita and Sasha completed their goal and assassinated Negan? All those wishes would’ve been ignored by Rick because “well Carl said this” it became this whole like ‘honour’ act
looking back i realize how bad of a job the writers did with that episode, really wish they wouldve just gone with glenn's true comic book death or just killed abraham. in the most anticipated episode of a show ever they killed off two beloved characters and made us hate another, daryl, for being so dumb. no wonder that was the point most viewers dropped off
It has always bothered me that people STILL blame Daryl for Glenn's death. Yes technically if Daryl hadn't punched Negan in the heat of the moment Glenn would have lived, but for how long? Knowing how Glenn was it wouldn't have been long before Negan killed him anyway. Hell, Negan literally offed Spencer simply because of his duplicity. Glenn was strong just like Abraham and that was why Abraham died and why Negan chose Glenn. Even wounded Negan knew how strong Daryl was and that was why he took him. That was what he wanted, for the strong to become weak and broken and those he knew wouldn't break he killed. Also just a little cherry on top if you re-watch that scene you will see the pain and immediate guilt on Daryl's face after Negan first hit Glenn with the bat. Do y'all really think Daryl would've dealt that punch if he knew Glenn was the one who would've died? Even in the heat of the moment? Daryl probably thought Negan was gonna kill him and didn't care since Negan was taunting Rosita about Abraham. All in all Daryl was the one who pushed the limits but it wasn't his fault. It was Negan's. The only example I can think of right now is Dale's death. Do y'all blame Carl? I mean he led the walker back to the farm which ultimately killed Dale. Why blame him when it was the walker who killed Dale? Why blame Daryl when it was Negan who killed Glenn? End of rant lol.
Thank you! I completely agree. I absolutely hate how so many people, especially in this comment section, blame Daryl for what happened even though he was trying to protect and defend Rosita and not the guy who literally made the choice to kill Glenn when he didn't have to and the same one who also told Maggie that he regretted not having killed them all when he had the chance and yet somehow people act like Daryl is the one who swung the bat or told Negan to kill Glenn smh.
I agree with everything except that Carl didn't kill Dale. Carl absolutely did kill Dale lol. Yes I'm blaming the person who led the walking corpse back and not the walking corpse. It doesn't know or think anything. Only reason it was there was due to Carl playing with it and bringing it home 😢
@@Jxxron I don't find it hard to believe that Nate represents people today no accountability for their actions but Nate was able to change he he felt guilty about what he did and heck he even felt remorse when Rick's son died even he saw but just a small part of it don't get me wrong what he did was unforgivable and words can't describe it but people aren't born monsters there made monsters
@@calebwright9974 Yea no duh, my whole point is that no matter what rick should’ve killed negan, makes his character look like a pussy which is not a good look for rick, glenn and abraham would be ashamed
@@mag11930 Beth kinda caused her own death. The officer was letting her go and yet she thought it was a bright idea to stab her with scissors for no reason
@@kellerproductions8527 If he didn't open the door the walkers wouldn't overrun them in the house and they would be together but he opened the door like a moron
It's crazy how Glenn from The Walking Dead changed the whole show and brought the soul of it, but I felt bad for Negan because he had lots of regrets for his actions during the show, made lots of horrible choices, and was deeply flawed. He was just a regular guy who lost his wife to cancer and couldn't cope. It goes to show that people can become desperate when they think their lives are over. But killing Glenn was the most terrible thing he ever did.
Rick had a point in the end, Negan literally became one of their greatest allies, he just needed time to reflect The whole point of this show is morality in my opinion.
They couldn't just kill Negan because the whole purpose was to get back to that sort of normal life. If they were able to just decide someone's fate like that, then it would be justified for someone else to do the same to them. You can't just kill someone for killing your people when you've killed their people too. That doesnt solve anything.
It wasn’t Rick’s call to decide whether Negan should live or not. If Carl had died because of negan or the saviours, Rick would have been the first person to kill him
@@shawnfrost3088 bro how did he got bit ? It's cause negan's team led the zombies there. And don't forget the countless molotovs thrown by them. Watch the show shawn
@@mukhrizfadzil1464 Carl voluntarily went to find Siddique and helped him kill those walkers because he wanted to honour his mom . Thats when he got bit while the saviours were still surrounded by walkers.Had the saviours not come and attacked them Carl would have died anyways. Also saviours did not led the walkers to Alexandria they just led them away from the sanctuary.
Negan living was for him to suffer, for Glenn, killing him would be too humane since it would allow him to be with his wife finally, Maggie saw that when she failed to execute him
Love both, but I remember this thinking, negan already picked Abraham. If Daryl let it be Abraham didn’t have hope for himself left he knew this life was to easy for him, but I don’t think he knew what it would turn to
This is why I love this show so much. They are both right in their own reasons but there is flaws in both of their arguments. Daryl is holding onto revenge and I don’t blame him while Rick is delusional about his vision of peace with his people and the savior because of his son’s dying for for this. But in the end I agree with darly you can’t force people to be in your views of the way you see the world. The savior will eventually break out and rebel against you (Rick) aka you will be no better than negan
crazy how much of an impact glenn had on people
He was a gamer also. We have hope
eh, he was kind of impactful. Mostly his death tho
@@AC-mp7cx you have more brain damage than Glenn if you think he wasnt one of the most impactful people on the show
@@lil_cali714___ He did love portal. Even asked Maggie if she could be his GlaD0S. If I remember correctly. I know he talked about Portal though. Cool guy.
@@e_cabrera_0455 At least elaborate before throwing bogus claims around. Unless you can’t and that’s just your irrational fanboy talking.
Rick’s hair damn near grey and white after all the stress he’s been through being a leader
Hair dye short supply
Group leader Rick
@@mycelia_ow nahhhh… you cant be a leader without at least 1 or more people. 💀
@@kaspermp.3.495 and Rick has like hundreds...your point?
@@ultrabigfella Rick is GONE….Thats my point. 🤦🏾♂️
One of the best scenes in the whole show. Andy and Norman killed it with this scene.
Amazing writing and acting here!
Ya and in Daryls point of view rick litteraly did get killed after this scene
Such great actors!
I love this about shows. You can feel the history and long-term impact of things after a few seasons. The change over time
Just two brothers hashing out their problems.
I love the little *POP* from darryl when he talks about Lori and Carl
That's called good acting
@@Stan3I3 that’s not acting that’s called tone
@@nickmiller9910 you don’t think tone has anything to do with acting?
@@user-pd5vo7yy2w I don’t think making a “pop” sound is acting
@@nickmiller9910 he did it while acting 🤣
Rick was right in my opinion. He wanted Negan to feel the pain that his victims felt by losing something or someone so special to them and it worked. Negan is a new man now all thanks to the guilt that Rick knew he would experience by keeping him alive so he can suffer just like he and the rest of his friends and family did.
Ok so if hilter got reformed you'd be cool freeing him? Sometimes it doesn't matter if they regret and become a new man the evil they do can only be resolved with their death
Yeah yeah, but this will never bring back all the innocent people he killed
@@liralalay9327 killing him will not bring them back either
Death is the easy way out. Negan didn't deserved an easy way out
True, even Maggie was able to understand
that pain was something no one in that world wpuld of understood besides rick and negan bc they not only suffer with the lives they took but the lives they lead other to take and who they lead to damnation with them thinking they were leading them to a better world for example rick always has to live with the fact he started the war w negan after deciding to attack the outpost which cost both sides so many lives. This is also shown in the dynamite scene with daryl thinking the death of the innocent would be on negan but rick understanding since he started the war those lives would be on them but more specifically rick just like how every time negan lead his men into battle he would regret the innocent on his side and the people on the other side since negan believe he could bring in this people and work together (even tho he’d still kill one of them he’s made it clear thats bc hed rather lose 1 random than 100 of his own which if ur looking at it as part of negans group who prolly been through this and know a war would only lead to useless death on both sides would be down w this solution it’s literally posed at 1 or 100 to them and most people will pick the 1 random over 100 loved ones even if those people have a chance of also becoming loved ones
Everything Rick was trying to build just completely flew over Daryl and Maggie’s head. I think after Rick “died” they felt bad because the weren’t grateful for him. It’s why Daryl left to be on his own for 6 plus years.
True... and all kingdoms fail.. Never would the wispfucker fuck with so many comunities..
When did Daryl leave for 6+ years?
@@az_ax5 middle of season 9
@@az_ax5 After Rick left the show they did a 6 year time jump and during those 6 years Daryl was living on his own in the woods. He was so depressed since he thought Rick died he wanted to be alone.
When did Rick die😂
“Darryl, stop doing the gritty in front of the walkers, getting them all riled up…”
lmaoooo
yo ive been having a bad day and this cracked me TF up. thank you
is that what you want for our community?
you can actually do that as Daryl in Fornite, no joke
Did Negan sat this?
Gleen would be alive if it weren't for dary punching negan in the face
Although that is completely true, can you really blame Daryl?
@@GLITCHED1 Yes
@@GLITCHED1 ofc yes, he wasn't paying attention to the situation
He should’ve say that here shit would’ve got spicyyyyy 😂
@@GLITCHED1 a man is always held accountable for theyre actions. We don't get to blame anyone else or call it a mistake. They all should have Known that this was not a man to trifle with
They both have some really good points
Yeah this conversation was overdue made this scene so special
They're both right here. That's what's messed up, there was no good outcome.
I mean......Negan changed so......Daryl was wrong.
@@JayV98 This argument was always flimsy to me. If someone bashed your lover's head in and "changed" in 10 years, would you really at all be willing to forgive and forget?
@@Hopwire Exactly!! 💯 So glad someone said it
@@HopwireThis argument is also flimsy because the worth of a human life isn't dependent on whether a victim can forgive and forget. I think people cover this topic wrong from the beginning. It's not about Negan changing. Rick didn't lock him up so that he could change. He locked him up to prove to everyone that a new era is among them. Where you face real consequences for your actions instead of dying. You live with your mistakes until you rot in a cage after years. It's an act of mercy and discipline at the same time. Two virtues that are absolutely needed to rebuild humanity.
EXACTLY, Rick wanted a good future for them and Daryl was talking about the reality.
If you think about it Daryl is the one who got Glenn killed. Abraham was the cost for Negan’s outpost people. Glenn was just another example that Negan is serious and Rick’s group needed a second reason to understand that.
Yeah Negan points it out in the lineup, he only intended to just hit Abraham. I'm pretty sure he was ready to scramble up half the group if needed be. Thankfully no one else pulled a Daryl after Glenn.
Daryl may have caused it, but Negan and his twisted system is responsible.
@@JRMAV1 negan is only looked as thr bad guy cuz the show isn't from his pov. They killed his men and then some. He only killed two people and would've been fine with just killing 1 til daeyl hit him like an idiot. Rick and Daryl done twisted things too
And ironically you just stated the reason why it's really Negan's fault and no one else's.
@@alexandermontgomery6815 he was a slaver and fascist lol no he's the bad guy
“Man you wouldn’t even be alive if it wasn’t for Glenn”
Very true Daryl, very true.
Glenn would also be alive if it wasn’t for Daryl
Rick wouldn’t be alive if it also wasn’t for MORGAN. Who people seem to just ignorantly forget.
Glenn would be alive if it wasn’t for Daryl. 😂 fanboys
@@empressink_nobody cares abt morgan 🤡
Daryl sounded like he opened a bottle of champagne when he said F*CK
i think he slaps ricks hand, or spits as he says it. definitely not a sound that comes from pronouncing an F.
@VNOMALII yeah he slapped Rick's arm. I loved this scene
Daryl was so wise man and he loved Rick. He just wanted to help rick
Rick save negan for Carl ✅🍀
“Wise”… even though Rick was right and the very following seasons proved him right…but sure we’ll go for “wise”.
@@mohsinshah1142 He did end up following Rick’s words. Despite wanting to kill Negan himself.
@@merimkastrat5846 no he did not he left only to save the group not to protect Negan which is what Rick tried to do. You can’t go against the show.
@@mohsinshah1142 If that were to be the case, Negan should have died already.
But he didnt.
At the time nobody would understand but began changed over time with the help of Rick imprisoning him. Made him feel all the guilt and let him wreath in his own sorrow
Began XD
🅱️egan
Began and Bick are the best Characters in TWD.
Baryl is good too
"Well Glenn would've been alive if it weren't for you" - Rick
He never said that, Rick wouldn't dare say that to his brother. They were way too close, literally fighting each other is more sensitive than saying that
Daryl was already carrying that guilt around for years
@@malikholmes5045 never said rick said that but that’s what we all thought rick was gonna say
Rick Was Right, it had to be done that way. See Negan in season 10,11. That man changed a lot.
He even killed Alpha.
He didn’t keep him alive in hopes that he would change. He kaput him alive because it’s what Carl wanted. Carl wanted to believe that there was still humanity left in the group. If Rick was still with the group negan would either be dead or still locked up. There is an episode in season 10 that explained all of this
@CJ Cruz right, and I think it's fair to consider whisperers as not human. they want to pretend like they're walkers? I'll call and treat them so. Governor and Alpha were psychopaths, every other villain is redeemable.
Did you forget what Negan said?
" if I had a chance to do it all over again I would've killed every single one of you "-Negan
@@deathkage779 You missed the reason for why he said that. He didn't want to kill Abe or Glenn over again. He wanted to save his people and if killing everyone to save them was the key, he would've done it.
You can't forget that Daryl's guilt over punching Negan which led to Negan killing Glenn is a big reason why Daryl sympathizes with Maggie.
Daryl turned into Shane 2.0 before Rick exploded the bridge
Daryl’s face after Rick said “I think about it every damn day” 😔
"Glenn's ass would be alive if it weren't for you" -A better line for Rick
He shoulda said that. Ultimate comeback
@@negan5986Daryl would said, we womt get hostage if Rick didnt killed the outpost first.
Damn yall Are brutal😅
looking back i realize how bad of a job the writers did with that episode, really wish they wouldve just gone with glenn's true comic book death or just killed abraham. in the most anticipated episode of a show ever they killed off two beloved characters and made us hate another, daryl, for being so dumb. no wonder that was the point most viewers dropped off
Rick blames Negan for that so he would probably never say that
It’s sad to know this is the last time he sees him besides when Rick is on the bridge. Even tho Daryl was kinda mad at him in this it shows that Daryl did love Rick no matter what decision he made but sometimes it’s not the right decision
Rick made the right decision 👌
Rick made the right decision, maggie and daryl will realize it along the way.
He literally turned into Shane 2.0
@@rots3123Maggie the real b . . c h is the reason why Daryl lost Rick.
imagne showing someone at season 3 this
I’m at season 5 lol. it’s not really a spoiler
I'm at season 4 😭
Update I'm at season 8
@@mrcalmyourself5405 shiiiiit, never watch youtube before finishing the show :,(
@@mrcalmyourself5405 got some very big moments coming up soon thouuuughhhhh
Look at Rick. Old and Grey. So much time has passed since Herschels farm. He was young then.
In TOWL he looks like Season 3/4 rick again
Rick: "But the viewers Daryl! The show dies, we die, and Negan brings in viewers."
Negan does? I couldn't even watch anymore because of him🤮
@@ChyloeReece I thought the show fell off after Alexandria and I just gave up on the show with the death of Carl. But it seems clear that Negan and Daryl are the two fan favorite characters for those still watching.
@@josh7827 Season 9 and 10 are still good imo, but I agree that they really dropped the ball with season 7 and 8 and that's such a shame.
@ChyloeReece I hate negan to but he has so many fans😭 I hate his fans tbh because they always blame Maggie and Darryl for everything
“Headlock’s illegal a**hole”
“I know…”
One of my favorite Rick and Daryl moments
Chokehold
Actually, the line after that was said by Shane. Not Rick.
Also, the line wasn't "I know", it was "Yeah, you can file a complaint."
@bobbydontdothat2843 Actually, you don't know what the f##k you are talking about. In season 1, Ep3, Daryl said chokehold is illegal, and Shane said well you can file a complaint. Then there is some episode in s8 where Rick and Daryl fight and Rick said chokehold is illegal a##hole and Daryl said yes it is.
@@bobbydontdothat2843yeah but they say it in this episode
@@BrothersinChrist_actual no they don't
"Maybe if you didn't feel the need to superman punch Negan, Glenn would still be alive!"
Mom? Dad? Please stop fighting 😂
This scene was so powerful one of best between Daryl and Rick.
Bound they have between them is crazy.
this my favorite look for rick a combination of his old and new self has the murder beard but the officer friendly hair
Rick looking back like ”brother, Glenn would be alive if it wasn’t for YOU!”
People really love to forget the monster Negan is. He had his crew pillage groups before Ricks group even made contact with them, he made wives of all his men’s girlfriends and spouses, killed glen. And it all only worked out in peoples mind cause he lived and changed but it could have had a similar outcome without him.
Agreed. It never fails to amaze me how desperate people are to completely excuse and justify everything Negan ever did or said and blaming it on someone else instead, as long as it is not him that gets blamed smh
No fr. He hasn't even changed because he told Maggie if he could do it all over again he would've killed all of them.
@@shelbylittle5354 Exactly. I don't doubt that he changes later on and genuinely regrets it once he was put in the same spot with Annie and the Commonwealth, but before that Negan legit told Maggie that the only thing he regrets is not killing them all back then and that he would do it again if he could.
But nah, let's all blame Daryl, Maggie and everyone else that's against Negan and Rick's decision (that he made all by himself only because of Carl's letter without telling anyone else first) for legitimate reasons instead, THEY'RE the bad guys and traitors smh.
@@Kalakeiko Yeah. Negan has been the bad guy ever since the outbreak and long before Rick's group started taking out his men (which is partially why they did it). He was doing the same thing to all surrounding communities. He brutally killed Glenn and Abraham in front of loved ones all while laughing about it and forcing them to watch.
Idrc if he's changed, that alone was MORE than enough to kill him regardless if that's what Carl wanted and I loved Carl but that was one of the biggest mistakes Rick made; keeping him alive as long as they did. The longer he lived, the more people got killed.
I also hate how people treat everything Negan did like an "oopsy daisy" type of mistake like that was no where near a mistake. 😭
@@shelbylittle5354 Agreed. I don't mind if people like Negan now, but I hate how the majority of them seems to just overlook and excuse all of his actions, the same goes for Rick and Michonne tbh, but as soon as someone else makes a mistake, they'll be blamed and bashed for years, no matter what else they'll do later on to "redeem themselves".
If Carl hadn't written the letter Rick would've killed Negan like it was planned and if Negan had killed someone else that was close to Rick, he DEFINITELY would've killed him, so him making the decison to let Negan live after everything he's done all on his own without telling anyone about it first just because Carl changed his mind isn't right at all and it's really frustrating.
I miss Glenn 😞
Stopped watching when he died I can’t even watch his death anymore he was my favourite 😪
@@jackdouglas9163 bruh he eventually was gonna die if u read the comics and the actor himself wanted to leave and go out the same way he did in the comics
@@tenthaep625 not everything has to be about the comics but ok
@@jackdouglas9163not everything is about the comics daryl isn't even in the comics
@@jackdouglas9163Rick also dies in the comics but in the TV he lives
Darryl was in so much pain flashes of the old pre-apocalypse Darryl were coming out. Rick didn’t take what he was saying too personal because he knew.
Glenn was last mail holding the house together for all of them
He was the literal glue of the group shows he even after so much time and stuff how he still has an impact on them….
Rick went from soft Rick to Shane Rick back to soft rick 😭
*Life is about Change*
Wise Rick dumbass. Look at him now tho
How is he soft here lol
this isn't soft rick arc it's wise rick arc
People can change, and can change again to normal
I love these moments because it reminds us they are equals. The characters know this though. It’s such a great frustrated conversation.
One of their best talks… Daryl was the other half of Rick. He needed him in his ear.
Yeah kind of he needed to hear the other argument so he comes back with a stronger and firmer belief in his own. I 100% agree with Rick it was in fact Daryls and maggies doing that led to what happened to the group. Sure Ricks plan had flaws but it was the most logical and best plan they had. Negans fallen group was hostile because of Maggie and Daryl they hated that Maggie was treating them harshly because of what Negan did which lead some of them to believe that is was better with Negan because they lived a better life and on top of that they had to work for Maggie in building the bridge so they felt like salves doing a lot of work for only a tiny reward. Rick treated them well however he was angry but realized that it didn’t help him and that instead of killing them and making it worse he wanted to be the better person and honour his son by respecting his final wishes. Rick out of all of them wanted to kill Negan the most but didn’t want his sons death to be in vain Maggie doesn’t see it that way while sure it was bad for Negan to kill Glenn and leave her a pregnant widow compared to what Rick lost it’s not even close even if we exclude all of the other deaths except his sons death Rick still had it harder since that was his SON which is way harder to lose than a wife or husband. I know it sounds harsh or even cruel to say but nothing can compare to the loss of your child your partner means a lot to you but your child is your all.
@@mohsinshah1142but Glenn got brutally killed in front of Maggie… rick saw carls bit only
The zombies: yo mates 2 dudes yellin get him I’m comin
Are you funny? Roblox Clown.
@@RickkGrimesshahahahah that was good one 🤣
Daryl is the one who got glenn killed
Keep up the good content you are truly an inspiration man
Indeed it is good content my friend
this is from a show it’s not his content
@@joshcartagena5762 obviously
Its actually crazy how Daryl is the one who cares about everyone the most
Really? Then why he got glenn killed and rick exploded the bridge?
Exactly, notice how whenever a person from the group went missing he was always the one looking for them. Sophia, Beth and when Denise got killed he wanted to avenge her. He's such a loyal friend and all he wants is the best for all of his friends. And he still feels guilt for Glenn,Beth and Hershel so he's extremely adamant on siding with Maggie and letting her get the one thing she wants AKA Negans death.
Alright a little opinion post: something that really frustrates me about this point
Rick is selfish. Because he didn’t seem to actually UNDERSTAND how much damage Negan did (his decisions and physical choices) to everyone. Just in Rick’s group alone: he tortured Daryl, he killed Glenn and Abraham leaving Maggie’s child without a father, he got Sasha killed, Denise died, he did get Carl killed because Carl wouldn’t have been out alone which meant he wouldn’t have gotten bit, he basically destroyed Alexandria, his men killed all of Jadis’ people, and due to all his actions it started a war which got many innocent people killed along the way - and yet just because Carl said to basically let Negan live, Rick went with it
If it were anyone else’s kid who suggested that, Rick wouldn’t have listened. But because it was Carl, Rick let Negan live - Rick and Michonne (in my opinion) turned agaisnt their group and dismissed their feelings because Carl thought otherwise and because Carl was ricks son, it meant what he wanted he got.
I was pissed at Carl when he wrote those letters saying how “there has to be another way” becahse to me it seemed like he just completely forgot about how many people have died by the hands of Negan
But I can’t express to anyone enough about how angry it made me that just because it was Carl, then it meant that they had to do what he wanted as his final wish - again, what about everyone else who have died
What if Denise’s final wish was to kill Negan? What if Glenn’s final wish was for Maggie to shoot Negan as revenge? What if Abrahams final wish was that both rosita and Sasha completed their goal and assassinated Negan? All those wishes would’ve been ignored by Rick because “well Carl said this” it became this whole like ‘honour’ act
Stop yapping girl.
Daryl Dixon and Maggie Rhee are the reason why RICK disappear.
It’s so funny how y‘all make Rick Grimes dirty all the time.
I was legit waiting for...
"Maybe if YOU didnt punch Negan, Glenn would still be alive!"
But it never did
Me too
Yeah that would’ve shut down Daryl’s entire argument.
To be fair if someone killed your friend INFRONT of you you would get up & punch them too
It's Negan's dumbass fault he died not Daryls
Rick would never say that to Daryl and no one in the group blames him, not even Maggie.
looking back i realize how bad of a job the writers did with that episode, really wish they wouldve just gone with glenn's true comic book death or just killed abraham. in the most anticipated episode of a show ever they killed off two beloved characters and made us hate another, daryl, for being so dumb. no wonder that was the point most viewers dropped off
Glenn was the heart of twd. He would be badass in this season
@Emily Hinkley yes and yes. It’s my opinion🙂
@Emily Hinkley and that’s your opinion and just because you think that does not mean it’s completely right
Shut up emily.
i accept your opinion christian.
Don’t listen her, there are many weird people in the world.
Honestly the six years in captivity seemed to break Negan down just a bit and that was pretty satisfying not gonna lie
How was that satisfying watching the only good character suffering in this dogshit show
If only we had savage Rick here. "And Glenn would be alive if it wasn't for you"
It has always bothered me that people STILL blame Daryl for Glenn's death. Yes technically if Daryl hadn't punched Negan in the heat of the moment Glenn would have lived, but for how long? Knowing how Glenn was it wouldn't have been long before Negan killed him anyway. Hell, Negan literally offed Spencer simply because of his duplicity. Glenn was strong just like Abraham and that was why Abraham died and why Negan chose Glenn. Even wounded Negan knew how strong Daryl was and that was why he took him. That was what he wanted, for the strong to become weak and broken and those he knew wouldn't break he killed. Also just a little cherry on top if you re-watch that scene you will see the pain and immediate guilt on Daryl's face after Negan first hit Glenn with the bat. Do y'all really think Daryl would've dealt that punch if he knew Glenn was the one who would've died? Even in the heat of the moment? Daryl probably thought Negan was gonna kill him and didn't care since Negan was taunting Rosita about Abraham. All in all Daryl was the one who pushed the limits but it wasn't his fault. It was Negan's. The only example I can think of right now is Dale's death. Do y'all blame Carl? I mean he led the walker back to the farm which ultimately killed Dale. Why blame him when it was the walker who killed Dale? Why blame Daryl when it was Negan who killed Glenn?
End of rant lol.
Thank you! I completely agree. I absolutely hate how so many people, especially in this comment section, blame Daryl for what happened even though he was trying to protect and defend Rosita and not the guy who literally made the choice to kill Glenn when he didn't have to and the same one who also told Maggie that he regretted not having killed them all when he had the chance and yet somehow people act like Daryl is the one who swung the bat or told Negan to kill Glenn smh.
I agree with everything except that Carl didn't kill Dale. Carl absolutely did kill Dale lol. Yes I'm blaming the person who led the walking corpse back and not the walking corpse. It doesn't know or think anything. Only reason it was there was due to Carl playing with it and bringing it home 😢
Stop yapping. It’s daryls fault.
Everyone , every normal thinking human would agree with me. Stop protecting your daryl
@@Kalakeikowomp womp lil boys
This is such a good scene
Superb writing and acting as always.
Daryl saying “you sure as fuck wouldn’t have found any of us” was his way of saying “you wouldn’t have found me”
I wish Rick had kept this look, so damn cool.
Daryl acting like he didn’t get Glenn killed
Because he didn’t
@@Ytqbayea he did
@@Jxippi but he didn’t
@@Ytqbahe punched negan at the lineup causing him to kill Glenn
@@ZHorrorBro that was Glenn’s fault not Daryl’s
Both Rick and Daryl made some pretty good points
This scene really breaks Daryl and my heart when it was the very last conversation and fight they had together😭💔🥺
even friends try to kill each other
Even brothers
Locking him the closet and that’s all? 😂😂😂 bro, Daryl completely ignored the Denise point
And at the end of the day Rick was right he saw what he did was wrong and he changed
Hell no he crushed glenn and abrahams heads in front of everyone do u think theyd want negan to get aeay with that?
@@Jxxron I don't find it hard to believe that Nate represents people today no accountability for their actions but Nate was able to change he he felt guilty about what he did and heck he even felt remorse when Rick's son died even he saw but just a small part of it don't get me wrong what he did was unforgivable and words can't describe it but people aren't born monsters there made monsters
@@Jxxron the group also snuck into an outpost killing people in their sleep
@@calebwright9974 Yea no duh, my whole point is that no matter what rick should’ve killed negan, makes his character look like a pussy which is not a good look for rick, glenn and abraham would be ashamed
@@Jxxron killing someone is the easy way out. Makes you a pussy if you kill
For those looking for the song in the background here it is øneheart x reidenshi - snowfall
One of the last conversations they ever had..😓
They needed to vent to each other like this they needed answers
I like the song in the background too
Those actors are 🔥
Daryl really caused the death of Glenn and the exit of Rick
The showrunners really love making him fe guilty
Yup, Daryl getting Rick dropped in this hole led to Rick to get thrown off his horse and nearly dying. Still a great scene tho.
And the death of beth
@@mag11930 Beth kinda caused her own death. The officer was letting her go and yet she thought it was a bright idea to stab her with scissors for no reason
@@kellerproductions8527 If he didn't open the door the walkers wouldn't overrun them in the house and they would be together but he opened the door like a moron
When brothers sometimes argue
bro looks older here than he does in the ones who live years later 😭😭
It's crazy how Glenn from The Walking Dead changed the whole show and brought the soul of it, but I felt bad for Negan because he had lots of regrets for his actions during the show, made lots of horrible choices, and was deeply flawed. He was just a regular guy who lost his wife to cancer and couldn't cope. It goes to show that people can become desperate when they think their lives are over. But killing Glenn was the most terrible thing he ever did.
Crazy that this is rick and daryls last conversation
In Daryl Dixon spin-off (Season 2 or Season 3 they will reunite.)
The face Rick made 😂 " SO IM THE REASON GLENN IS DEAD👀" but he let that one go
Can’t forgot “ARAT kill someone”
Daryl sure does forget that it would have only been Abraham if he didn’t punch Negan.
When rick got what he wanted by killing negan he realized that he didn't feel any better so that's why he told the people to save him
"Well Glenn would still be alive if you didn't hit Negan."
Brother take my hand
I NEED HIM to play a live action of Arthur Morgan
Rick had a point in the end, Negan literally became one of their greatest allies, he just needed time to reflect The whole point of this show is morality in my opinion.
This is the Daryl I wanted to see in the 11x24
What you mean? Is daryl boring in season 11?
That was more of Darryl’s guilt showing. He still blames himself for what happened to Glenn.
If Daryl didn’t punch Negan Glenn woulda lived Daryl is one of my favorites but he isn’t without blame in that situation
At the end of the day Daryl respected what Negan did to help them
Daryl’s right
And after Rick "died", Daryl realized how right Rick was all along.
Imagine if Rick said “well…had you not punched negan that night”
“Your ass wouldn’t even be alive if it wasn’t for glen”
“Glen’s ass would be alive if it wasn’t for you”
💀
This right here is what really killed it...best argument
They couldn't just kill Negan because the whole purpose was to get back to that sort of normal life. If they were able to just decide someone's fate like that, then it would be justified for someone else to do the same to them. You can't just kill someone for killing your people when you've killed their people too. That doesnt solve anything.
Solves it in my book, gets rid of the problem
@@RookyRxb57 By that logic u wouldn't make it
@@jarvisfowlkes3200niether would you
I wish that Rick would have just killed Negan with the bat when they had their one on one fight 😅😂
Rick would lose the fight. The only reason he slit his throat is becouse he loured negan in a false sence of security thinking abouth carl
@@vidzumer365 yeah I meant when he had him down after slitting his throat.
He should have just beat the bat down bad on his back 💯
@@vidzumer365 Not if he had his murder jacket
Daryl right 100%
Nope
He is tho
I haven't tought much about glenn, buthe played a big role in the show and i like how its shown
Turns out Rick was right.Now we all love Negan.
Me not.
Daryl stop hitting the griddy in front of the walkers they don’t like that
It wasn’t Rick’s call to decide whether Negan should live or not. If Carl had died because of negan or the saviours,
Rick would have been the first person to kill him
Carl did get killed bcs of negan didn't you watch the show ? 😂
@@mukhrizfadzil1464 Did you watch the show?? He got bit trying to help Siddique . How was that because of Negan? 😂
@@shawnfrost3088 bro how did he got bit ? It's cause negan's team led the zombies there. And don't forget the countless molotovs thrown by them. Watch the show shawn
@@mukhrizfadzil1464 Carl voluntarily went to find Siddique and helped him kill those walkers because he wanted to honour his mom . Thats when he got bit while the saviours were still surrounded by walkers.Had the saviours not come and attacked them Carl would have died anyways. Also saviours did not led the walkers to Alexandria they just led them away from the sanctuary.
Negan living was for him to suffer, for Glenn, killing him would be too humane since it would allow him to be with his wife finally, Maggie saw that when she failed to execute him
Bro Andrew and Norman killed this scene I love this show so much
He wouldn’t have found Glenn if it weren’t for Morgan though 😜
and if it weren’t for Daryl Glenn would still be here 🤷🏻♂️
Rick from season 5-6 would eat negans soul
Other way around. Negan had Rick on his knees, begging and crying.
So did Rick. Rick had negan running away from him and crying
@@Exoexo355 Not till season 8.
@@deckzone3000 okay what’s your point? He still did it
Rick was his pet lol
What Daryl really meant when he’s says you wouldn’t have found us is that Rick wouldn’t have found him.
He means that Rick wouldn’t find the group from season 1 without Glenn. And that he wouldn’t found his wife and his son.
I'm so glad Daryl was wrong in this argument. Everything did work out ❤ Rick made the righteous choice
Maggie started the Conflict between Rick & Daryl about Negan.
Love both, but I remember this thinking, negan already picked Abraham. If Daryl let it be Abraham didn’t have hope for himself left he knew this life was to easy for him, but I don’t think he knew what it would turn to
Sad how that was there lost convo
This is why I love this show so much. They are both right in their own reasons but there is flaws in both of their arguments. Daryl is holding onto revenge and I don’t blame him while Rick is delusional about his vision of peace with his people and the savior because of his son’s dying for for this. But in the end I agree with darly you can’t force people to be in your views of the way you see the world. The savior will eventually break out and rebel against you (Rick) aka you will be no better than negan
Delusional is a rather harsh word, he was rather successful at keeping peace while he was around so he did have something.
They had nohing when rick was gonne... all failed.. the wisp fucker would never atack so many comunities