Well, I was considering it. I am 66 years old and on Social Security($1502 per month + tutoring income). I was considering retiring in Florida, but it is expensive there. $55000(Teacher's salary w/Master's in mathematics +30 hours. Almost a PhD) + $18000(Social Security) + teacher benefits = $73000+ goes a long way in Florida and in much of the world 🌎.
been out of teaching for 8 years, don't miss it a bit, it became crowd control-not education, taught in the city and the violence, poor work ethic, horrible attitudes and complete lack of interest in learning was so disheartening I couldn't stand it anymore; it's a lost cause
A professor in Florida and I feel muzzled from saying many things because of the politics even though it is supposed to be my job. Trust me, it will get worse.
Teachers are leaving because of low pay; while in other states, teachers are being laid-off because the schools can’t afford them. What a conundrum? There are number of teachers who shouldn’t teach, but are retained. And some people who would be great teachers don’t apply because students are allowed to run amuck, and progressivism limits teachers from teaching academics instead of social justice issues. American schools suck; especially public schools. You’re better off homeschooling or sending your child to private school.
Yes, by all means, become an educator. Subject yourself to daily gaslighting, victim blaming, verbal assaults, and even physical assaults, for pay so low that you can't afford to live in the district you are teaching in, and for a job that no one respects and has become a punchline ("if you can't do, teach"). But don't worry, you will be comforted by the pervasive mythology that you can be that one magical teacher you had as a student who changed your life. One day you'll be that teacher too. For one student, maybe, out of 1,000. But all of the emotional trauma and physical deterioration will make it worthwhile. The public school system is dominated by behavior coaches and principals with doctors of education degrees, which is quite frankly the most useless degree, whose only purpose is to bully and terrify educators with archaic licensing standards and absurd social-emotional-learning models, which blames the teachers for everything while holding students accountable for nothing. Student didn't show up for class? The principal will blame you. "What aren't you doing to MAKE the student WANT to show up? WANT to be on time? WANT to pay attention? WANT to be engaged? WANT to follow the rules? WANT to do their work? WANT to not verbally attack you or assault you?" Yes, the principal will even blame you for being verbally assaulted and physically assaulted by your own students. And all of this without even talking about the parents, who will blame you also for when their perfect little angels are misbehaving ("my kid doesn't act like that at home!").
There are only 3 times they will talk about teacher shortages: at the beginning of the school year, at the end, and during an election cycle to gain political points.
I got let go over petty things because I needed a mental day and I was hardly out. I was only out 5 times out of the whole year. Then as I started getting burned out. They over scrutinized my performance and put the blame on me because all my students failed the final exam when they usually pass regular test and quizzes. Then my boss asked don't you think that's a reflection of the the teacher. I responded NO. So they just contributed to another Teacher shortage.
Here's a clue. They are not going to figure it out. Most teacher salaries come from each state's legislative budget, and most states just don't want to pay teachers. Plus, until you get parents that want to instill learning and respect in their children, nothing will change.
There is no quick fix anymore. Teaching has become too annoying and even humiliating to attract college graduates in any significant numbers anymore. The schools will be forced to automate to an extent tantamount to brick & mortar online academy. Teachers will literally specify that they are no longer willing to be in the same room as the little brats they are ostensibly “teaching”. They will have to hire youth leaders like what they have in the juvenile lock-ups to manage the more odious crowd control functions or no one will teach anymore.
Yes, teachers could use more money. Although I am not from Florida and live in Virginia, let's compare salaries as follows: Beginning Accountant in Virginia = $58,000 for 12 months work($4833 per month for 12 months); Beginning Teacher in RURAL Culpeper, VA with a master's degree: $54,000 for 9 months work.($6000 per month for 9 months) Hence, it's not the pay. The reasons that teachers are quitting are shown below: 1) Some teachers have been subjected to violence by errant students; 2) Educrats imposing impossible demands; 3) Parents giving teachers trouble; 4) In capitalist America people say, "Those who can do, and those who can't, teach." which shows contempt for teachers; 5) Teachers are expected to be counselors and social workers for disturbed kids; and 6) Kids from dysfunctional homes and disturbed kids bring guns 🔫 to school. With regard to reason 4), it should rephrased as follows: "Those who can do, and those who can't, are in prison." (Wrongfully convicted excluded)
Im glad there is someone betetr informed than these clowns on the news. As soon as I heard pay was the reason I just grew angry as I know thats a load of BS.
I agree with all your points; however, money is also a factor at least in Florida where the starting salary is 48k. Yes, the salaries you’ve mentioned might start very close but the manner of how a teacher can potentially increase their salary turns into a snail race. I’ve had friends that went to the field and due to inflation are unable to rent a 1 bedroom apartment and are then depending on their parents or friends to be their roommates.
Amazing what happens when parents don't parent, no state taxes to fund education, allowing politicians to tell what teachers can or can't teach and zero accountability of administrators and school boards can do for the profession.
Pay teachers more and don't let the children and parents run the school.
Agreed!
This!!!
Just about covers it.
I quit teaching in 2011 and it was the best decision of my life.
You may have been working in the wrong school 🏫 system. However, I was not at the school where you taught, so I can't draw to any conclusions.
Who the f... would want to work as a teacher in Floridah?
Well, I was considering it. I am 66 years old and on Social Security($1502 per month + tutoring income). I was considering retiring in Florida, but it is expensive there. $55000(Teacher's salary w/Master's in mathematics +30 hours. Almost a PhD) + $18000(Social Security) + teacher benefits = $73000+ goes a long way in Florida and in much of the world 🌎.
Or anywhere else for that matter.
We don’t want to get shot !
Pay them more!!! And support them not the whiny parents.
been out of teaching for 8 years, don't miss it a bit, it became crowd control-not education, taught in the city and the violence, poor work ethic, horrible attitudes and complete lack of interest in learning was so disheartening I couldn't stand it anymore; it's a lost cause
Crowd control is an excellent way to describe this career.
I taught 6 years in Title I schools, I agree with you, it is a lost cause.
A professor in Florida and I feel muzzled from saying many things because of the politics even though it is supposed to be my job. Trust me, it will get worse.
All over America.
Take it from law enforcement and put it towards education.
THe only quick and easy solution to this is "Show me duh Money."
Teachers are leaving because of low pay; while in other states, teachers are being laid-off because the schools can’t afford them. What a conundrum? There are number of teachers who shouldn’t teach, but are retained. And some people who would be great teachers don’t apply because students are allowed to run amuck, and progressivism limits teachers from teaching academics instead of social justice issues. American schools suck; especially public schools. You’re better off homeschooling or sending your child to private school.
Yes, by all means, become an educator. Subject yourself to daily gaslighting, victim blaming, verbal assaults, and even physical assaults, for pay so low that you can't afford to live in the district you are teaching in, and for a job that no one respects and has become a punchline ("if you can't do, teach").
But don't worry, you will be comforted by the pervasive mythology that you can be that one magical teacher you had as a student who changed your life. One day you'll be that teacher too. For one student, maybe, out of 1,000. But all of the emotional trauma and physical deterioration will make it worthwhile.
The public school system is dominated by behavior coaches and principals with doctors of education degrees, which is quite frankly the most useless degree, whose only purpose is to bully and terrify educators with archaic licensing standards and absurd social-emotional-learning models, which blames the teachers for everything while holding students accountable for nothing.
Student didn't show up for class? The principal will blame you. "What aren't you doing to MAKE the student WANT to show up? WANT to be on time? WANT to pay attention? WANT to be engaged? WANT to follow the rules? WANT to do their work? WANT to not verbally attack you or assault you?" Yes, the principal will even blame you for being verbally assaulted and physically assaulted by your own students. And all of this without even talking about the parents, who will blame you also for when their perfect little angels are misbehaving ("my kid doesn't act like that at home!").
I'm Canadian, I would teach in the USA. Canada has too many teachers, and I need to wait 10 years to get a full time contract.
I wish you the best. Might want to think it through though. Canada and the U.S. are very different animals.
They'll do anything but fix the problem.
There are only 3 times they will talk about teacher shortages: at the beginning of the school year, at the end, and during an election cycle to gain political points.
I got let go over petty things because I needed a mental day and I was hardly out. I was only out 5 times out of the whole year. Then as I started getting burned out. They over scrutinized my performance and put the blame on me because all my students failed the final exam when they usually pass regular test and quizzes. Then my boss asked don't you think that's a reflection of the the teacher. I responded NO. So they just contributed to another Teacher shortage.
It sounds as though you were gaslighted.
@@michaelragusa5138 That's exactly what it was.
Teacher, Cop, or Corrections Officer. Would never get me to do any of that shit.
The districts should never have allowed the teachers to leave!
They aren’t slaves!
Dude. Give me a break. No one ‘allows’ someone to ANYTHING.
Here's a clue. They are not going to figure it out. Most teacher salaries come from each state's legislative budget, and most states just don't want to pay teachers. Plus, until you get parents that want to instill learning and respect in their children, nothing will change.
There is no quick fix anymore. Teaching has become too annoying and even humiliating to attract college graduates in any significant numbers anymore. The schools will be forced to automate to an extent tantamount to brick & mortar online academy. Teachers will literally specify that they are no longer willing to be in the same room as the little brats they are ostensibly “teaching”. They will have to hire youth leaders like what they have in the juvenile lock-ups to manage the more odious crowd control functions or no one will teach anymore.
Teachers' union? Illegal in my state.
It's the students. They're the reason for this.
Hold parents accountable
Gonna need about a 40k raise to get them to go back
Yes, teachers could use more money. Although I am not from Florida and live in Virginia, let's compare salaries as follows: Beginning Accountant in Virginia = $58,000 for 12 months work($4833 per month for 12 months); Beginning Teacher in RURAL Culpeper, VA with a master's degree: $54,000 for 9 months work.($6000 per month for 9 months) Hence, it's not the pay.
The reasons that teachers are quitting are shown below: 1) Some teachers have been subjected to violence by errant students; 2) Educrats imposing impossible demands; 3) Parents giving teachers trouble; 4) In capitalist America people say, "Those who can do, and those who can't, teach." which shows contempt for teachers; 5) Teachers are expected to be counselors and social workers for disturbed kids; and 6) Kids from dysfunctional homes and disturbed kids bring guns 🔫 to school.
With regard to reason 4), it should rephrased as follows: "Those who can do, and those who can't, are in prison."
(Wrongfully convicted excluded)
Im glad there is someone betetr informed than these clowns on the news. As soon as I heard pay was the reason I just grew angry as I know thats a load of BS.
I agree with all your points; however, money is also a factor at least in Florida where the starting salary is 48k. Yes, the salaries you’ve mentioned might start very close but the manner of how a teacher can potentially increase their salary turns into a snail race. I’ve had friends that went to the field and due to inflation are unable to rent a 1 bedroom apartment and are then depending on their parents or friends to be their roommates.
All true, doing some research for a non-fiction book, reply if you'd like to be interviewed
I thought they were going to fill these shortages with National Guard troops. They even have their own guns, problem solved. 😂
Who the hell would wanna teach anywhere? it's an annoying job anyway students can learn stuff on their own and succeed when the time comes
They tried getting veterans in the classroom. Not even they would tolerate the conditions.
Public schools are not fit for purpose. Let parents choose. We can choose schools that dismiss unruly kids and keep perverts away from our kids
I hear Texas has available teachers.
Na, you didn’t.
After giving me a Social Security cola of 3.2% teachers want to raise my property tax so they can get a 30% raise.
Amazing what happens when parents don't parent, no state taxes to fund education, allowing politicians to tell what teachers can or can't teach and zero accountability of administrators and school boards can do for the profession.