As soon as she said "Is there anything teachers can do (about student absenteeism) I already knew that she was completely out of touch with reality. WHY IS IT THE TEACHERS JOB TO GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL. IT IS A DAY SCHOOL, NOT A BOARDING SCHOOL. THE PARENTS SHOULD GET THEM TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS!!
In US public schools, all sense of responsibility has been stripped from the parents and placed onto the teachers. Kid doesn't show up to school on time (or at all)? Must be the teacher's fault. Kid doesn't do any of their assigned work and insists on being disruptive in class? That's apparently an issue with the teacher's "classroom management", and their work doesn't have enough "rigor" (admin buzz words). Kid makes a threat of violence to another student? "Classroom management" excuse once again...never any accountability on the part of the student or their parents.
No consequences for bad behavior. Teachers get blamed for everything and never praised. Principals sacrifice teachers to appease parents and students. Students are running the schools
The reporters were like, so what are teachers doing to get students with high absentee rates to attend school.. That is a parent issue, not a teacher issue.
@@atomictime9410 Parents have no consequences if their children disrupt classes or even purposely fail the standardized test. So many of them just appear at government meetings complaining about how bad the teachers are with the politicians taking their side because they outnumber the teachers by a wide margin. Parents have all the power and none of the responsibility to their children's education.
No praise. EVER. ABOUT ANYTHING. We are constantly beat down and insulted and nitpicked about every little thing. And yet they tell us never to do that to our students.
@lookout97 I am retired from a prior career and sub these days. It is sad what I experience as a sub and what I hear from primary teachers (6-12, I don't do elementary). One very sad aspect is the handful of students who want to learn but can't because the period is spent addressing behavior issues.
My daughter taught in foreign schools…and loved it. Students and parents were extremely respectful, well behaved, and valued education. The administrations supplied to the teachers whatever they needed to succeed. When my daughter walked into the classroom in Taiwan, the students would stand in respect, and not sit until permitted by the teacher. They would often bring small gifts to show their appreciation of the teacher, and many parents would send small gifts as well. Once in a while, several students would show up at her apartment door, and ask if she would spend another hour with them. Sometimes she would be invited to dinner at the home of a student, and the parents were so pleased that the teacher would come to their home. Everyone on her apartment complex knew she was a teacher, and accorded her with respect. Then she came back to America to teach…and can’t wait to get out of the profession. Students are loud, profane, disrespectful, sometimes violent, undisciplined, won’t open a book or do their class assignments, backtalk constantly, won’t shut up, etc. America is losing it’s place in the world because we don’t have the will or courage to discipline our youth.
You have no idea how big. As a CTAE teacher with a Masters in Workforce Education, we are graduating a generation of functional illiterates - kids are socially promoted starting in elementary school and it continues throughout secondary school. As a result, very few possess the skills required by business and industry. In addition to lacking basic math and language acquisition skills, these students also lack soft skills, a strong work ethic, coping skills and the ability to think critically. Truly a shame!
The kids are messed up because they're raised by messed up adults. Ppl have been messed up for years now. It's a messed up culture. This is the result of raising kids in modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. It's like Greeko/Roman culture. Many teachers quit cause the parents and the pedophilic philosophies they have to push as well.
This is happening around the globe. I was a teacher for over 20 years in my country (not the US) until I couldn't take being the butt of the joke. Only God knows how these generations will turn out to be.
They don’t say no because they are to busy, gone are the days when values were a thing. Now we got both parents working and no time to spend with the children they brought into this world. Everyone wants to blame the kids, well look at the kids in her 1950s, did we have these problems? No. It’s because of society.
Until 10 or 20 years ago, yes. NOW, they don't WANT parents involved! They don't want to "educate," they want to INDOCTRINATE without parents finding out.
By all means. The problem is in the last 20 years or so states have passed laws telling parents what they can and can't do with disciplining their kids.
I quit teaching 6 years ago, after 20 years. No good pay, we're overworked, humiliated, we're diminished to mere babysitters of brats who are literally little sh*ts supported by equally shitty parents and bosses and schools. I had it, no more teaching, ever. I support you, colleagues. Make your value worth. No more humiliation.
Exactly. Teachers are going to get stressed and make mistakes. But instead of punishing them for everything they do. How about giving them constructive criticism and actually praising them for what they do right. If all you see in a teacher is how they wronged your kid one time, that’s all they will ever be. They might have helped your kids 100 times before that, which no one sees.
@@cataliaishere SMH. A teacher told you there was a problem with your kids and wanted to blame the teacher? It is hard to believe that you were an educator. "Teachers need criticism and not endless praise.." What planet are you from? That isn't reality.
No real consequences for bad behaviors is a huge reason why teachers are quitting. Just talking to the misbehaving kids does nothing for 90% of them. Our society has taken real discipline/consequences out of schools and replaced it with just giving pep talks and treats for the kids who are misbehaving. As a teacher I see this firsthand. It's detrimental and scary.
Yes, it's a shame. A total shame. Children are being raised by a bunch of selfish "Karens and Kevins" who are spoiled and passed it down to their kids. If this is our future, we are SCREWED! You're also right about there not being real consequences in place. It scares me to know that a college classmate of mine who is a Special Education teacher had a laptop THROWN at her by a student. He only got a daylong suspension from school. I'll betcha he'll do it again! We educators are teaching kids raised by parents who can't parent, and we have to pick up the pieces and the blame, because parents are never wrong, right? 😮
@@kittyragdoll22 I also had a student who punched another student in the stomach for NO REASON and he was taken to the office and given coloring sheets to color. And we wonder why there is a teacher shortage...
a big part of the problem too is, we now have people who have mental health and severe emotional/behavior disorders in mainstream schools and classes, when in reality they need to be in a special program, not shoved into regular schools and classes ! food for thought, as we know, so many people think they need to bring back corporal punishment, i disagree, because we have many countries who outlawed that completely: Sweden, Finland, Holland, Cyprus, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, and more: they do not use physical punishment, not parents, or teachers; and yet the students/ youth, and adults for that matter are much better behaved than they are as a whole here in the US. over all crime rates and jail / prison population is much much lower, violence and other crime is much lower than it is here. school performance(grades, attendance), is much higher than here. I think we need to research what they are doing to make things more effective . these students as well as adult need more stability, they need positive stimulation and yes they do need t be held accountable. do the research, look it up: yes, these countries and more do not use any corporal punishment and they do not have the problems we are having here.
Our prison systems aren't ready for the huge influx of inmates they're gonna get in a few years. We're raising a violent, immoral, and belligerent generation. I'm an older Gen Z and I'm horrified to see the decline of behavior that happened so fast. It's a disgrace.
Yeah, it all stems from their home life and if their parents care enough to be on top of their education and correct bad behavior. At my last campus, most of the parents weren't in that category.
That's what happens when we invoked Reaganomics, NAFTA, and Administrative takeover. All the jobs shipped overseas; debt became extremely cheap (driving up prices) and administrative takeover focused more on quotas than relationships. This has allowed millions of people to indulge in detrimental behaviors, lose well paying jobs, and get burnout from all the ridiculous bureaucracy that is slowing down the business sector. Children and teens are are record levels of illiteracy that we haven't seen for over a century. Single parenthood and parents that pay no attention to their kids are largely the problem.
Imagine how the kids that are being bullied feel going to school day in and day out with these out of control kids!?! My son described it as being forced to enter prison 5 days a week.
School to prison pipeline it is designed so kids want to drop out I feel like and it is also the mindset of a lot of the chdren of illegal immigrants that much is obvious no one respects the law and order and yes it starts at home where are all these children coming from see the demographics
Yes!! My son loves school. His test scores are out of this world. But his teachers are not protecting him from the bullying, and the physical violence he's experienced. I don't feel safe with him in the school.
Discipline was on the decline way before the pandemic…and, many parents will go in and defend their special little flowers, while attacking any teacher that dares to demand any kind of standards…if pop quizzes were given immediately after high school graduations, we would wonder what the point of education is…sad
@@msls6592consider that for better or worse, many of the methods of discipline used in the past are no longer acceptable in a modern society and that parents are criticized when their child is undisciplined even in spite of this. It's like saying a parent is not legally allowed to provide effective methods of discipline, then blaming the same parent for their child being undisciplined.
@@dixie0625 WELL YOU LEFT KID BEHIND PRIER TO 2001 AND THAY ARE ALL IN PRISON SO HOW IS GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR SOC. AND PENCHIN BECOUSE WE DONT HAVE A TAX BACE!
@@jeannettesilva4242 Pensions and a tax base are strengthened when everyone contributes, not when the wealthy are encouraged to use tax loopholes and given tax breaks. It's also financially beneficial when our leaders actually respond to energencies intelligently and responsibly, rather than having to placate and distract voters with "mea culpa" stimulus checks that add billions to the national debt.
I was a school nurse at a high school for a year and a half. I quit due to the awful way the parents interacted with their kids and me. They would threaten to sue me for not treating their sick kid…at the school…and I am a nurse, NURSE, just a plain old RN…not allowed to treat anyone without a doctor order. I was literally there for the kids with chronic ailments whose parents brought in orders from the doctor for their child’s specific needs and also there in case of an emergency. The teacher could send the sick student to me and parent would be contacted to come and get them or 911 called if it was an actual emergency. These nut jobs thought I had a whole pharmacy there and was there to diagnose their kid and give them medicine, ect. When I would explain that I could not do that they would holler at me over the phone, threaten me, and never could they come and get their sick child and take them to an actual doctor. I don’t know how I lasted as long as I did. I feel sorry for teachers. There is ZERO amount of money you could pay me to work in any school for any reason at all ever.
@@karlabritfeld7104as a parent of 3, the fact that other parents WOULD NOT COME TO THE SCHOOL to get their sick kid just astounds me!! I almost can't even believe that is true at all, like it must be made up. It both angers and saddens me to know that ANY "parent" would actually do that, let alone yell or get mad at the nurse, and yet I'm hearing that several parents have and continue to do just that. Do these parents have ANY respect or self-discipline at all? It scares me to think that these same people might have a job or family that they tend to, when they care this little about responsibility. It's also making me question if everyone else out in public might be that unwilling to take responsibility in certain situations. I have 3 children and my husband and I are living paycheck to paycheck, but I would never ever behave like that. It just sickens me.
Thanks for your very interesting but highly concerning comment. I question whether the parents were ever given information when their children were enrolled in school regarding the responsibilities of your former role, which were specific and not unlimited? The same principles would apply to teaching and other staff. Unless the head teacher and administration, together with the local/area government enforces these, the problems will just continue. There are some countries where parents are given a contract, detailing expectations on both sides. However, there would always be some parents who would never pay attention. But they couldn't argue that they did not know what the rules were.
I am based in the UK and have female two relatives who work in schools dealing with supporting special needs children. I hear truly horrifying stories. There are very strict rules about giving any first aid to children, which in principle is good, but the implementation is another matter. One of my relatives had to deal with a young child that fell over in the playground, grazed her knee, so cleaned it up and put a plaster/band aid on the knee. The next day the parents came in and met the head teacher and accused my relative of abusing the child, which clearly did not happen and was a complete fabrication, intending to try to get financial compensation. My relative was backed up, but just that one small incident shows how teachers can be abused. There are numerous other problems with parents: sometimes the school has to call the police to deal with parents who are fighting each other while waiting to collect the children. I feel so sorry for those children.
Read the school's expectations, if they have them. How hard could it be to just know the basics: your child must attend school until a certain age; your child and you are responsible for doing schoolwork, returning notes and permission slips; you and your child are to be respectful of other people on schoolgrounds. Not that hard.@@Lucienne-zz1sw
My Dad started working in a Jr high in 1955 he said then discipline was a high priority, he retired from working in 1987, he said then the discipline problem was out of control. You can only imagine how much worse it is now.
@@merrywhiterose a big part of the problem too is, we now have people who have mental health and severe emotional/behavior disorders in mainstream schools and classes, when in reality they need to be in a special program, not shoved into regular schools and classes ! food for thought, as we know, so many people think they need to bring back corporal punishment, i disagree, because we have many countries who outlawed that completely: Sweden, Finland, Holland, Cyprus, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, and more: they do not use physical punishment, not parents, or teachers; and yet the students/ youth, and adults for that matter are much better behaved than they are as a whole here in the US. over all crime rates and jail / prison population is much much lower, violence and other crime is much lower than it is here. school performance(grades, attendance), is much higher than here. I think we need to research what they are doing to make things more effective . these students as well as adult need more stability, they need positive stimulation and yes they do need t be held accountable. do the research, look it up: yes, these countries and more do not use any corporal punishment and they do not have the problems we are having here.
@@Shannonbarnesdr1 Shannon, your point is valid but should look deeper. The "Inclusion-Idea" never worked, and everyone knew it from the beginning. The main problem is that, are regular Highschool Student would have been a mental health case 20 years ago because of developemental issues. Discipline is just a symptome. And the scandinavian countries are not that much of a rolemodel anymore...and it boils down to culture. Does your culture around you shame you for bad grades and behaviour? Is it your DUTY as a child and student to be the best student you can be? Corporal punishment isnt the best tool, but what is the alternative for people you cant reach with anything else. Lock them up as failed social experiments? The sad truth is, looking at the state of young people and the demands of a future economy, 30% of people wont be able to participate in the workforce in a contributing manner.
during that time corporal punishment was also phased out of schools... talk to him about that... when you could no longer discipline students with physical correction, was this appropriately substituted with other methods, and how did students respond to this, also the transition period...
Yes, she missed the mark. I spend my days dealing with behaviors instead of teaching lessons. There’s no accountability and no consequences for students, so the behaviors continue. That’s the problem that wasn't there before like it is now.
I agree. Teacher pay should definitely increase, but the job would still be the same. Parents need to teach their children responsibility, accountability, and respect. What is happening in our education system is not fair to the good kids who want to learn.
I'm in a post secondary education school and have been teaching for nearly 20 years. I can see the change in discipline and primary education changes in my time. Our nation is out of control because of allowing the students to treat the educators any way they want to. Teachers are more like baby sitters these days, and are powerless to actually teach, which is why we got into this job role to begin with.
I'm a retired teacher. When will we honestly look at the culture? The effect of pop culture on our society? The broken family? The system continues to attend to the behavior problems with programs that promote the very things that cause behavioral problems - self centeredness, self promotion, and the idea that the individual is not accountable nor receives consequences. We've lost our way morally and are trying to repair the problem while continuing with our moral decline and the decline of our society.
I used to be a teacher and I quit teaching to do a job that pays less but I work remotely with no ride Kidd or parents. My flexible schedule allows me to focus on my son and his education. Unless I find maybe a private school that is different I don’t plan on going back.
Just retired after 32 years of high school teaching. A disaster now because there is so little respect and no more consequences for practically anything! No zeroes...
I've got 4 years to go before I retire after 30 years. This year is turning into my worst one yet. The kids and parents are horrific and now I'm questioning whether I can make it that long. I'm literally checking off the weeks and giving myself little rewards for making it through another one.
God bless you! As far as I am concerned anyone who can teach high school for 32 years is an absolute beast! This is year 26 for me. I have 4 more to go! Enjoy your retirement..you deserve it!!!
Many seasoned and veteran high school teachers in CA hate the job. The goal is no longer to educate curious minds, but to get through the day without a student confrontation. At this point it's just a check. Sad but true.
They are riding out the years, waiting for the gold-plated pensions they'll get. Which is seven-figures for a woman who leaves at 55 & lives into her 80s (as many do.)
@@rethinkcps2116 The hilarious part is, if it weren't for those seasoned veterans sticking around, most campuses would be filled w/ uncertified or 1st year teachers who have no pedagogical experience beyond listening to a professor. It can ALWAYS get much worse than it already is.
We need discipline in our schools and we need fewer administrators and their ridiculous pay scale! Pay the teachers and give them authority to discipline! And get back to reading, writing and rithmatic, The 3 R’s! Oh, and some uncensored History as well!
Shorthand solution - no more teacher unions. In the private sector, businesses go out of existence with unions. In public sector - services (police, teachers, etc.) get worse and worse, while staffing goes up and up, employees are lazier and lazier.
NO!!!! It's the lousy parents who don't establish boundaries early in life. You have too many single parents usually mothers on welfare with multiple children from failed relationships. Principals should be strong no nonsense men with a flair for maintaining discipline.
This breaks my heart! This is the reason I left teaching in 2016. Too many students, not being supported by admin, and parents who want you to raise their children. Add to this, the behavior is disgusting, and so is the pay.🙁
THE PAY IS BECOUSE IT IS BACED ON SINYORTY NOT WHO IS BEST. WE KNOW TEACHER WERE TOUGHT TO TEACH TO THE TEST. THAT IS WHAT IS HAPONING NOW! YOU GET WHAT YOU TOUGHT THERE PERINTS NOW YOU ARE SUFFERING THE CONSSAQINSES!
It isn't about the pay after some point. I left teaching b/c the whole system is broken and it had nothing to do with the pay and benefits (Gold Star health insurance and top tier pension). The schools did not hold the students responsible for learning and simply blamed the teachers. I had students miss 60, 70 80 days of school (in a 180 day school year), not make up the missed work and then be allowed to sit for the year end exams and it was my fault they didn't pass. I've had freshman/9th graders in my Algebra class that were at a 3rd grade level math ability based on their 8th grade assessment. These students also could not read at even a 6th grade level, so could not read or comprehend what they were reading and could not set up the math problems and that was my fault. No, it's not about the pay after a point, it's about the administration not supporting their teachers and not educating the parents that were constantly complaining. It's about the parents not holding their own children responsible for doing their homework and passing their tests. It's about parents expecting the school system to just pass their kid without knowing anything. The system is broken.
Why can’t this system be fixed??? It’s going to take a complete Revolution of the school system! Like completely shut it down and start from scratch!! This is horrifying.
It doesn’t matter if u shut it down. Any system that u create will fail if the parents maintain the perception that their children shouldn’t b held accountable.
And those schools run by an administration that bullies the teachers get recognition for improving their graduation rates. And who got really hurt? The kids that will be fired from their job because no one taught them better. Very scenic and very sad.
@@RockingItInGrade4 I am currently a case manager helping homeless individuals get housing and employment, as well as other services. Also I am in graduate school now to obtain my MBA
In my classroom, I had a student kick me which caused me to send him to the principal's office. He was there for a total of 10 minutes, returned with a sticker on his shirt and was allowed to return to the classroom. Then it would all start over again! Nothing would change by sending him to the principal's office.
I didn't get kicked it wasn't that bad but I had a similar situation with an out of control student. The principal played a game with him and sent him back to class
These teachers are experiencing a burnout not to mention working in a unsafe environment due to contributing factors (1)violence, (2)misbehaving kids, (3) low salary, (4)undervalued, (5) unappreciated etc.
Funny my sons private school costs 1/3 of public. Didn’t close during Covid and don’t have staffing issues. Maybe we need to instill some structure, dress codes, and discipline in all schools.
"Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann Coulter). Notice how often our leaders talk about "family" and never mention "MARRIAGE". Everything else is a Band-Aid on a festering wound.
You know you Maga clowns can post anything you want. But only an idiot would believe a REAL private school would cost 1/3 of a public school ( which by the way would have NO tuition)
I'm a middle school math teacher in my 60's, I love teaching and helping my students nerd out achieve success in academics. I'm in a new school district this year. I loved my previous rural school, but the pay was simply too low to cover my expenses. My new school is larger and also serves a rural community, but they gave me a substantial raise in pay plus an additional stipend because its hard for them to attract math teachers. The math instruction at my new school had serious issues in the last couple of years, with several teachers quitting part way through the year - mainly over massive student behavioral issues, fights in the classrooms, etc. Most of my 7th grade students test out between the 2nd to 5th grade level, fully half the students failed the state test. I can handle the tough students, but discipline is the least favorite part of my day and it ruins classroom lessons for the students who want to learn. I would say that for every student who who wants to learn, there are five or six students with some combination of hostility towards education, families who do not care, or psychological behavior issues. I call them the Tik-Tok generation. I do not allow cellphones in my classroom, but on their own time many of them are watching inappropriate, nasty, graphic and sexual videos. When they come to school they have those images on their mind and its in their conversations. I want cameras in my classroom, and to allow parents to come to school and watch what their kids are doing in the classroom. I don't want it live streamed for privacy reasons.
I'm having the same issues. I teach a college tech program. Used to love my job and trade. The higher-ups at my institution have started catering tech programs to high schoolers. Of course, it's all about the money. 90% of the students don't actually want to be there. They use it as an excuse to get out of high school for part of the day. This semester has been horrendous. To the point I'm leaving at the end of the semester. Time to move on. Your comment about the "tik-tok generation" is spot on. I'm done with it.
I've been subbing in the Central Valley of California for the past 5 years. I was thinking about becoming a teacher and even passed the elementary school teaching exams. However, all the discipline issues made me decide against becoming a teacher. In the lower grades, school districts are now insisting on including special ed and special needs children in the same classroom as normal children. So, I've been in TKs, Kindergartens, as well 1st through 5th grades, that had one or more students that were completely out of control, running around the classroom, throwing things, throwing tantrums, stealing (even eating other students lunches), and hitting other students. In one instance, counselors had to clear the classroom to get a 2nd grader under control. In another instance, a 1st grader pooped his pants and then threw bits of it at another student. Really, some students simply need a special classroom environment where their mental issues can be addressed and where they can have their own special curriculum; putting them in a normal classroom setting does an extreme disservice to them, as well as to the teacher and fellow students. As for the higher grades, especially in middle school, my experience has been like yours. I would say in every class of 25 to 30+ students, maybe 5 or 6 are actually learning anything. For the rest, they simply don't care. They have no attention span except for gossip, video games, and TikTok videos. They know the teachers will pass them, that the administrators will go easy on them (especially if the teacher is a sub), and that their parents either don't care or will side with them against the teacher. And as for cellphone use, in many schools, especially high schools, the administrators have basically given up on doing anything serious about it, when they actually need to implement consistent, zero tolerance enforcement.
@@reynoldsje If pay was not an issue I would have been very happy to stay at my previous middle school. As it was I needed income from a second job - which means that less of my focus was on my students. I feel confident that I am winning students and parents in my new school - but it is a slow process. I have had many staff and administrators visit my classroom and they are happy to have a genuine math teacher who holds students accountable for their work and behavior. It is hard work to lift up low academic achievement - but next year I will no longer be the new guy and the incoming students will already know that I have no fear of giving low grades and failing students. The result of my standards is that now students come to my class before school starts in the morning, and come after school for math assistance.
Wow. Thank you. Some days when teaching (and later guest-teaching) I thought maybe I was having nightmares; that no one would believe me when I repeated actions of students, and I must be the one causing a boy to pull down his pants to show genitals, that girls would throw a chair at another person, that a child would stand up and throw a book across the room.@@thehighllama8101
One of the big problems here is the lack of parenting. Young kids, especially boys, are full of boundless energy. This has to be controlled by parents, not teachers. There must be boundaries and rules that are enforced. Too often they are not. It is important to think about what kind of adult you want your child to be and work towards that goal.
Retired teacher here. All of the above. No surprise to me why teachers are leaving in droves. No professional respect. Most kids are good people, but the few that aren't get away with horrible behavior, and the other kids know it. The after-hours demands on your time are beyond ridiculous. Students' behavior, attendance and performance is all the teachers' fault (are you kidding me?!) It gets worse. I loved teaching 40 years ago, but you couldn't pay me enough to go back in this environment.
I am a special education teacher. I am part of the problem. Yes, I am under compulsion by the powers that be to pass kids along. I have addictions like food, clothing, shelter, a wife and kids I must support. I have soul strangling mountains of paperwork, documentation, ARD preps and close to 30 students on my caseload which is twice the norm. I apologize for there only being 24 hours in a day and I can’t get it done… my job is dictated by politicians and lawyers so I get no input. I am the professional and yet not a professional. When kids act out it is MY fault I can’t control them. Even though their parents can’t either I am supposed to be the miracle worker and fail miserably. In all seriousness, I love my students and someone once said “Teaching is like a bad marriage - you stay in it for the kids”. I apologize for not being Superman. I am the problem…
You’re doing an amazing job. This job used to be valued because of the appreciation. This country just doesn’t value the people who are supposed to care.
YES AND IF WE DONT FIX IT THE KID IN SPED WILL PAY THE PRICE JUST LIKE I DID SO TEACHER AND PERINT NEED TO STOP FIGHTING OND FIX IT. THAT MEENS THERE ARE GOING TO BE KIDS HELLED BACK. THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THE KIS ARE THE PRODUCK OF THE SCHOOL NOT THE SOORS ON THE MONEY!
While I'm not a school teacher, I once taught at private school for middle and high school students for computer science and also currently volunteer as Sunday School teacher at church as well, and I noticed the trend of undisciplined children especially with current generation of kids. Even 5 years ago, most kids were mostly well behaved. Now, I fear facing kids, even at a church, because kids are just wild and uncontrolled, and kids are yelling and screaming, jumping and running around in the middle of class. A few days ago, even when one of the parents came into talk to her child who was misbehaving, the kid didn't even listen. If child doesn't listen to his parents, they're not going to listen to teachers.
My daughter in law lasted one year as a teacher, she said the kids are horrible. She now promotes homeschooling and is changing careers. She taught high school and the kids have the mental capacity of 5th graders. The dumbing down of kids it real people homeschool your kids.
The dumbing down of kids ___ it real people ___ homeschool your kids. 🤣 Is she serious? Nice run-on. Missing her contraction. This dumby giving advice about education! Just retired as a public high school English teacher. Forget it. Hopeless situation.
This goes for bus drivers too. No respect or any support from your district. No raises or help with the kids. The kids/parents run the district with no rules or consequences. You see the aftermath on TV right now around the world! The youth of our times have finally been told "no"!! From the real society.
Most administrations don't allow teachers to fail students, even if the student puts forth no effort at all. This means that students are being pushed from grade to grade with no meaningful level of education at all. You are left with high school graduates who can't even read the diploma that is handed to them. This is not what the teachers want, but their hands are tied. Each year teachers are taking in a large percentage of students that didn't meet the requirements of the previous grade. This problem comes from the top.
There are so many people on her blaming the teachers and teacher's union. THey don't realize that for the most part teachers' hands are tied by the administration of their school and district. Teachers do not want to automatically pass students who have done know work. They don't want that child who demolished their classroom to be returned to their classroom 15 minutes later with a sucker.
I'm a middle school science teacher. Thirty-eight years in the lab and classroom and this is my last year teaching. Please, please, please prohibit students from having phones in the classroom. Everything went south when students began carrying them.
@@jeannettesilva4242 It is imperative that you limit your phone usage, as it appears to negatively impact your spelling and sentence construction. Furthermore, I would recommend that you consider enrolling in additional writing courses. Your current skill level underscores the challenges and pressing needs within the teaching profession.
NO THAT IS CALLED DYSLESYA AND BAD TEACHER AND A BADE TEACHING PLAN IT IS THE SAME RESON KID CAN'T READ TO DAY GO LOOK HOW THAY CHANGED TEACHING IN THE 70 PRIER TO YOU BECOMING A TEACHER! OVERPAY FOR PECE OF CRAP!
Two words: social media... social media is silently the root cause of a lot of society's issues most especially with the young people today or if not the root cause, it ENHANCES the issues society has: behavioral issues, mental health, suicide, homicides, physical assaults, lack of discipline, lack of focus, materialism, drugs, disrespect, anger issues, laziness, addictions... Social media is more of a detriment to this world, than any good it could ever do.
This is my first year in a classroom setting after spending the past three years working in a nurse's office... The students in the classroom I'm assisting in have no real consequences, instead they're bribed with prizes and candy, anything to get them to behave, in which after they get what they want they go right back to being Chucky dolls. Teachers are not allowed to even grab a student by the hand/arm when they're swinging punches at you, yet two students have gotten physical with me and their only consequences was to "issue you me an apology". (WTH)!!!! Imagine if it were the other way around... heck, I'd be all over the news, bombarded with hate mail, on my way to jail with a record to follow me the rest of my life. The system is truly jacked up. There's no way I'm returning next year to this jungle crap!!
In the 1980s as a kid, I remember in elementary school every kid sitting at their desk with their hands folded waiting for the teacher to start class. Very quiet in the classroom. The teacher would hand out 10 to 12 worksheets, and each had instructions on them. You had to read each one and understand what to do. If you then had a question-- you raised your hand. I remember some kids raising their hand for 15 minutes straight before the teacher stopped by...no one spoke unless the teacher spoke to them. Every kid was dressed really well too...and we were respectful to our teachers. I loved the 80s🇺🇸-- on the bus ride home I remember hearing songs on the bus radio like " drive" from the cars...it was just so chill. The best version of America, in my opinion.
@buildertrash4102 My theory on the way kids behave...is...parents don't smack them anymore. One major reason I was a good kid...is because my mom smacked me with a paddle if I was bad.... #1 it hurt. #2 it was embarrassing. After a while, you realized you deserved it and then changed your behavior.
Yeah especially in assembly where you had to where a white shirt and blue plants and a red or blue tie and if you were caught talking well it was the principals office
I remember one of the biggest fears other than your parents getting called was being sent to the office. Now when a teacher sends a student to the office even for something serious like throwing a chair at another student, the child returns 15 minutes later with a sucker. THe call to the parent often ends with the parent screaming at the teacher and blaming the teacher. In the 1980's, if a child failed, the parents blamed the child and asked the teacher what can we do to help our child succeed. Nowadays the parents blame the teacher and ask her what she is going to do so insure the child passes. Something has fundamentally shifted in schools. This rage focusing on the teacher's unions does not address that there has been a huge societal shift that is now playing out in out schools.
YES, PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES GET PAYED A LOT, BUT THAY HAVE TO PRODUSS TO GET PAY IF YOU PRODUST LIKE TEACHERS THAY WOULD NOT HAVA JOB! I DON'T REMEMBE ONE TEACHER GETTING FIRED EXEPT THE ONE THAT WAS SLEEPING WITH A KID!
I came out of retirement in 2019. I left before the end of the semester. I had no support from the administrators. The student’s behavior had greatly degraded in ten years time. Home school. It’s easy. You can complete the curriculum in three hours and use everyday activities as a lesson. Grocery shopping for math and science is one example. There are support groups in every community.
I used to be a high school history teacher and it is ashamed how teachers, students and education are under valued. Please do better educating our future leaders.
Back when I was in school cell phones were first coming out so no one had one out in class at all. I feel like social media and smart phones are a root of this problem
Cell phones can be helpful to support learning if used in the right way. using the internet on the phone to look up explanations and examples on how to math problems. But most often it’s not used in the way to support learning but as a distraction.
Respect is a two-way street. And teachers are openly speaking about doing the bare minimum just to get a cheque, whilst calling kids names, all viewable online by students and parents alike. So why would you expect respect when you have no intention to extended it. You’re right, it is pathetic.
@NaturalBrownCupcake I’m also in education. Well, was. I’ve taught at a well known Canadian university for almost a decade, that would be how I know what’s happening to these kids. It’s so bad and the teachers are so out-of-control that I’ve quit my job and we’re homeschooling him whilst we find a more suitable educational institution. Private really is the way to go.
@@KateSmith-h2f Ok. Our experiences and demographics are different. You're in Canada and I'm in New England, USA. Of the teachers/ colleagues I've had, I'd say 8 to 9 out of 10 come to school for the kids and love teaching. Then I saw the minority where they were jaded or never committed but just show up. Still, I like to defend my colleagues because it's not an easy job, but we mostly come to give it our all and take a lot of criticism. Still, I in no means am trying to invalidate your experience. I'm sorry that your experience is different.
I’m a behavioral specialist at a public school and we are literally being trained to deescalate student behaviors by giving the students what they want and negotiating with extra disruptive kids. It’s ridiculous and makes no sense. We’re raising future convicts.
Myself and four other teach friends have quit and started a homeschool co-op with other parents for our kids and others in our community. We have about 30 students and they are doing outstanding.
As a teacher, even with only a bachelor degree, the problem is not the pay. The problem is there are no negative consequences for bad behavior. In fact, both kids and parents know if they behave badly enough they will actually get rewarded. Even my Asst. Principal, who is regularly cussed out and threatened and never bats an eye or gives in, is dealing with a parent of a girl who I sent to Time Out (Time, Out! … for two minutes tops!) AP asked me -in tears - to please apologize to this student because if the AP has to have a face-to-face with the girl’s mother she won’t sleep for a week. THIS is what no amount of pay will fix.
I'm an elementary school teacher as well, and see the exact same nonsense at my school. One of the parents got so offended because I told him (in a polite way) that his son was kicking the walls in my classroom and coloring on it with crayons. The dad went straight to the principal and complained about it and said he doesn't want to hear anything more about his son's behavior at school! Now the kid gets snacks and coloring sheets at the office when he misbehaves. I'm so done with this nonsense.
The administrators of our failing schools all need to be FIRED. Failing to nail down the safety at school for the children AND the teachers is unforgivable. But keep blaming parents and changing nothing.
When I was in school my teacher used to thank me for being quiet and actually doing the work. I even got bullied for doing my work in class and called a nerd and many other things 🤦🏾♀️
It's the parents responsibility to make sure their kids go to school. I believe it's the law that needs to be enforced. Parents are responsible not tbe schools or the teachers! Why don't we call it what it is, BAD parenting.
You're absolutely right. Parents don't want to be responsible for anything negative that happens in their lives and this is reinforced in the children. Parents take no responsibility for how their children, or they themselves, act. Lack of consequences for bad behavior is literally ruining our children and our country as a whole.
I work with early years and 'tired' is indeed a new kind of tired for educators. Children don't listen any more. They can be violent, they hurt each other and we have to just try to stop them all day. On top of that we try to teach them and care for them and it's 3 different jobs in one! We try to explain in different ways to them to stop hurting others and it's very hard because they don't understand consequences or empathy.
Seems you are a last woman standing! Your service is as important as that of the army defending the country. You are the first defense! I'm real sorry, that you are so tired, but your heroic efforts are greatly appreciated by many normal people. Keep the consequences going and keep teaching them values. The whole system basically falls or stands with you prevailing in this immense task. Because of your teachings all of these kids lives will be better. Some won't become bullies, due to your installing of values. Some won't become victims of bullies as well, since there will be less bullying. You might even prevent a school shooting 10 years from now.
Ten million dollars a month wouldn't be enough for me to take a job in some of today's public schools. The trauma and danger is unreal. And now you can't even suspend the worst offending students, at least in California.
This is so sad. I graduated high school in 2014 and I loved attending school. It helped take my mind off of my difficult home life and I appreciated my teachers not only for teaching me but also being there for me through those difficult years. I’m 28 now and wondering how they are doing. With the way things are now, I can’t imagine teaching. I’m glad I appreciated my education and I’m glad I let them know back then that they were appreciated.
I remember back in 2007 2008 there was a woman who ran the Washington DC school system who thought it would be a good idea to get rid of veteran teachers. The philosophy was that veteran teachers were out of touch and unprofessional, therefore younger teachers with new ideas were better. Remember “Waiting for Superman”? This is what happened and many of my friends lost their careers. in addition, school mental health workers were laid off and fired because they weren’t seen as worthy during those days. Because of this, I resigned from my mental health job due to constant bullying and threats of job loss. That type of philosophy and action is why we are where we are today. Many education systems in other states were doing this. Because educators were not valued during a pivotal time in history, we do not have what we need today to manage this post pandemic crisis.
Wait... What? That kid still in school? Or on a 3 day out and come back only with the nicest apologies and the threat of out forever Plus child protective services alarmed if anything even comes close to such behavior ever again.
There has been a big change in children’s behavior since I started working in education 17 years ago. Behavior has gotten much worse since Covid. I work in a middle school in Illinois and I’ve seen the changes. Veteran teachers are retiring early or just leaving the profession all together. Since Covid we have a severe shortage of subs. Teachers have to sub on their planning periods. This has been going on for three years and they are burned out. The subs aren’t coming back. The largest population of subs were baby boomers and retired teachers. Retired teachers want no part of subbing. The lack of respect from students to staff is awful. Parents blame the schools but it’s the parents fault. It’s their job to raise their children not ours! Our job is to educate their children. When parents raise disrespectful brats it’s hard to educate children like this when they disrupt the classroom. In many cases administrators hands are tied. They need to be expelled and have to do remote learning at home. It will then become the parents problems.
My school system? One of the teachers just recently was *shoved* by a student after trying to get two preteen boys to stop fighting. Rather than back her, after the incident she was chastised to "keep better control of her classroom". *Unbelievable.*
My daughter will begin her junior year as an elementary education major in 2024. She loves children and is so excited for her career in teaching. I am so concerned for what she will face in the current state of US education.
Tell her to pursue speech pathologist. You make great money and don't have to worry about classroom discipline. She could simply work with small groups daily. It's the way to go and she would have job security. She does not want to be in the classroom. It's horrible.
@@KenAdams-lt1ld funny, she actually mentioned that she would like to do speech pathology. Is this something she would specialize in after she gets her education degree, or would she need to change her major?
It varies by state so i would talk to a counselor at the college for guidance. Here is mostly the requirements: Complete a state-approved certification preparation program in Speech and Language Pathology at the master’s degree level; Complete a master’s degree level or higher program approved by the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA); Hold a valid ASHA Certificate of Clinical Competence (CCC) in Speech and Language Pathology;@@Summerdee223
Many people do not realize that home school does not mean the parent has to be the teacher. There are homeschool online services the parent can set up (and monitor) to allow children to attend via computer. Some services are free. My son and daughter-in-law pay about $1200 per school year for a service that they are very happy with.
@@hanshansen3885 It is my understanding that my granddaughter is online about 4 hours per day. I believe there have also been books provided to work out of. Extra online support time is provided if needed. Also she recently received some credit for vacation time to a national Aquarium and Zoo (as many other schools do, with documentation and a written report). Like I mentioned there are free options available. I think some homeschool options are actually provided by public schools. If someone needs more info they can simply search for "free online homeschool programs".
Exactly. My niece does that. Due to her disability it is actually paid for by insurance. But even if they had to pay for it, it is inexpensive. It's less than $100 a month. 4:23
All programs are not the same, so u have to b careful of these services. As a teacher we have had many students who re-entered the school system very behind bc they were just given busy work, made all A’s in terms of grades, but never truly learned. I also facilitated some of these online classes. It seemed to work well for Gifted and AP kids that were juniors and seniors. It didn’t not work well at all for the 9th grade class I facilitated. They did the work but before a test, they would ask me to take them to my classroom and teach them the curriculum bc although they aced the work, they had not truly learned the material
NOT ALL KID CAN DO SCHOOL ON A COMPUTER! REMOT LERNING WAS A NIGHT MIER FOR MY LITTLE ONE BCOUSE SHE IS SPESHOLNEEDS! IF SHE WAS GOOD WITH SCHOOL ONLINE, SHE WOULD NOT BE IN SCHOOL!
Single parents, no family support, no discipline, excuses for horrible behavior, lack of religion and faith, and a divided country is destroying our educational system.
Teachers need extra pay AND respect. People who have OUT OF CONTROL children (I'm not calling them PARENTS) and people who are SUPPOSED to be school administrators are the problem. ATTEMPTING TO blame teachers for the problems in schools does not absolve them of THEIR responsibilities. Teachers should not be rearing children who are not their own.
We need to bring back the paddle. When my teacher pulled out her paddle we all fell in line. Only recall her using it one time. Now I look back, she was the best teacher I ever had.
They can't because people will sue. It's too much of a liability. I wish they would bring it back and some states still can paddle, but it never happens out of fear of lawsuits. My dad used to paddle me and it worked wonders: I respect my elders, never have done illegal drugs, never been arrested, etc...but who knew that discipline works?
I quit after a month of being a substitute teacher. That was in 1997. I've been a private tutor ever since. I still have my sanity. I'm not sure that would be the case if i had stayed in the educational system.
I taught for 7 years with no raise. At intro pay. With inflation I was actually getting poorer every year. I quit teaching because of pay and complete disrespect from parents, administrators, and students. It ruined my mental health to the point I was having to seek medical help. Almost every teacher in my school was taking antidepressants and Valium or Xanax. I also had to work a second job being a wife and new mother. I was literally throwing up before school because I had to go back into such a toxic environment.It’s just not worth it. I quit and I’m 100% happier in my life.
I can totally relate to this. I wake up in the middle of the night with panic attacks about going to school the next day. Sometimes I will get up and get dressed and the anxiety is so bad I will get literally sick to my stomach and have to call in sick. Today was one of those days. Set my alarm, got up at 4 am, got ready to go, and was having such a bad panic attack that I had to take the day off. My caseload is 185 students, and not motivated well behaving students. I am well educated, have multiple certifications, have been teaching for over 20 years, am caring and kind, and yet the students treat me so horribly and are so downright hateful that my mental health is declining. I had to go on anxiety medicine just to be able to go to work. No one would understand except another high school teacher. 185 students is too many with the behavior issues of today!
@@isabellaflorentina7574 Get out of there! No one is worth that! Find an alternative, any alternative. You will be developing auto-immune illness next, or heart disease. Save yourself from Complex PTSD.
My full sympathies for these hard working teachers. The extreme behaviour by some of these kids is absolutely common now. Many of us are dealing with it but no one is having deal with this more than teachers. No discipline by parents, no discipline by the school. No one is allowed to say no to these kids. The bad kids are a bunch of Karens.
I quit teaching high school history after 16 years in a town because they wanted to offer us a 0% raise and have us teach a extra class for for free, while the superintendent shaffer and top brass voted themselves a 20% raise. HUNDREDS of teachers including myself quit for better paying suburban districts. I work in a wonderful town now with supportive parents and great admins.
@@tayachting6345 the charters tried and failed because they couldnt compete with the top notch public schools and private ones. The locals are too smart and know the charter's plans to bilk the tax payers and drive up property taxes. My old district they went up 65% in 6 years thanks to charters
As soon as she said "Is there anything teachers can do (about student absenteeism) I already knew that she was completely out of touch with reality. WHY IS IT THE TEACHERS JOB TO GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL. IT IS A DAY SCHOOL, NOT A BOARDING SCHOOL. THE PARENTS SHOULD GET THEM TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS!!
In US public schools, all sense of responsibility has been stripped from the parents and placed onto the teachers. Kid doesn't show up to school on time (or at all)? Must be the teacher's fault. Kid doesn't do any of their assigned work and insists on being disruptive in class? That's apparently an issue with the teacher's "classroom management", and their work doesn't have enough "rigor" (admin buzz words). Kid makes a threat of violence to another student? "Classroom management" excuse once again...never any accountability on the part of the student or their parents.
I work in High school where the first class starts at 8:45, I have sever students at get in my classroom around 10am, like nothing happen
@@gaboc1409, I observed the same as well.
@@gaboc1409You are talking about a high-school, I see this in middle school 6th grade! 😢
Exactly,
It's parents responsibility! Parents chose to have children so obviously it's their responsibility to raise their children not teachers.
No consequences for bad behavior. Teachers get blamed for everything and never praised. Principals sacrifice teachers to appease parents and students.
Students are running the schools
The reporters were like, so what are teachers doing to get students with high absentee rates to attend school.. That is a parent issue, not a teacher issue.
@@christinecrow4251I agree. They put all the responsibilities on the teachers. The whole education system is a train wreck
@@atomictime9410 Parents have no consequences if their children disrupt classes or even purposely fail the standardized test. So many of them just appear at government meetings complaining about how bad the teachers are with the politicians taking their side because they outnumber the teachers by a wide margin. Parents have all the power and none of the responsibility to their children's education.
No praise. EVER. ABOUT ANYTHING. We are constantly beat down and insulted and nitpicked about every little thing. And yet they tell us never to do that to our students.
@lookout97 I am retired from a prior career and sub these days. It is sad what I experience as a sub and what I hear from primary teachers (6-12, I don't do elementary). One very sad aspect is the handful of students who want to learn but can't because the period is spent addressing behavior issues.
My daughter taught in foreign schools…and loved it. Students and parents were extremely respectful, well behaved, and valued education. The administrations supplied to the teachers whatever they needed to succeed. When my daughter walked into the classroom in Taiwan, the students would stand in respect, and not sit until permitted by the teacher. They would often bring small gifts to show their appreciation of the teacher, and many parents would send small gifts as well. Once in a while, several students would show up at her apartment door, and ask if she would spend another hour with them. Sometimes she would be invited to dinner at the home of a student, and the parents were so pleased that the teacher would come to their home. Everyone on her apartment complex knew she was a teacher, and accorded her with respect.
Then she came back to America to teach…and can’t wait to get out of the profession. Students are loud, profane, disrespectful, sometimes violent, undisciplined, won’t open a book or do their class assignments, backtalk constantly, won’t shut up, etc. America is losing it’s place in the world because we don’t have the will or courage to discipline our youth.
BadLuck, I've FORTUNATELY seen this in the states enviably 👁
My wife was raised in Taiwan and went to university in America.
She became A teacher and quit after 6 years because the students ran the school.
Single mother kids ala Murphy Brown. It doesn't work.
💯
Close friend of mine is a teacher in Japan & he says the same. Japanese students, culture, family, etc is far better than hea experienced in MN
This is a huge problem. America is raising a whole generation of entitled people just because parents can't parent.....
You have no idea how big. As a CTAE teacher with a Masters in Workforce Education, we are graduating a generation of functional illiterates - kids are socially promoted starting in elementary school and it continues throughout secondary school. As a result, very few possess the skills required by business and industry. In addition to lacking basic math and language acquisition skills, these students also lack soft skills, a strong work ethic, coping skills and the ability to think critically.
Truly a shame!
Yes 🙌 the future looks very frightening with the way things are going!
The kids are messed up because they're raised by messed up adults. Ppl have been messed up for years now. It's a messed up culture. This is the result of raising kids in modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. It's like Greeko/Roman culture.
Many teachers quit cause the parents and the pedophilic philosophies they have to push as well.
After teaching overseas as well, I can attest to this being a global phenomenon.
This is happening around the globe. I was a teacher for over 20 years in my country (not the US) until I couldn't take being the butt of the joke. Only God knows how these generations will turn out to be.
These parents who don't say no to their kids, but challenge the teacher's authority are part of why teachers say, "enough!"
Wait until those sort of parents don’t have a place to send their kids for school because there are no teachers teaching.
They don’t say no because they are to busy, gone are the days when values were a thing. Now we got both parents working and no time to spend with the children they brought into this world. Everyone wants to blame the kids, well look at the kids in her 1950s, did we have these problems? No. It’s because of society.
@@undergrace1808 AGREED
It’s been going on for far too long smh.
The parents are so busy working 2 to 4 jobs that they’re not even around enough to say no to their kids
Education begins at home with the parents. The parents need to prepare the children to do well in school.
Until 10 or 20 years ago, yes. NOW, they don't WANT parents involved! They don't want to "educate," they want to INDOCTRINATE without parents finding out.
It would help if parents backed the teacher and if the school can't discipline it is very important the parents discipline.
Same government school system taught them as well...
Schools have turned into babysitting service. So many students are performing below grade levels. Get them out of public schools.
By all means. The problem is in the last 20 years or so states have passed laws telling parents what they can and can't do with disciplining their kids.
Parents need to be accountable for the way they raise their children
I definitely agree
Exactly
And school administrators need to be held accountable whenever they skirt their disciplinary responsibilities on top of that!
We know who the problem parents are, they cannot be fixed. We need to stop trying.
@@neonnoir9692 AND THAT IS WAY YOU SHOULD NOT BE A TEACHER!
I quit teaching 6 years ago, after 20 years. No good pay, we're overworked, humiliated, we're diminished to mere babysitters of brats who are literally little sh*ts supported by equally shitty parents and bosses and schools. I had it, no more teaching, ever. I support you, colleagues. Make your value worth. No more humiliation.
I want to teach later down the road but only college and university. Where they want to learn.
Exactly. Teachers are going to get stressed and make mistakes. But instead of punishing them for everything they do. How about giving them constructive criticism and actually praising them for what they do right. If all you see in a teacher is how they wronged your kid one time, that’s all they will ever be. They might have helped your kids 100 times before that, which no one sees.
@@cataliaishere SMH. A teacher told you there was a problem with your kids and wanted to blame the teacher? It is hard to believe that you were an educator. "Teachers need criticism and not endless praise.." What planet are you from? That isn't reality.
No real consequences for bad behaviors is a huge reason why teachers are quitting. Just talking to the misbehaving kids does nothing for 90% of them. Our society has taken real discipline/consequences out of schools and replaced it with just giving pep talks and treats for the kids who are misbehaving. As a teacher I see this firsthand. It's detrimental and scary.
And they call it PBIS. They are trying to reform the child and it NEVER works.
Yes, it's a shame. A total shame. Children are being raised by a bunch of selfish "Karens and Kevins" who are spoiled and passed it down to their kids. If this is our future, we are SCREWED!
You're also right about there not being real consequences in place. It scares me to know that a college classmate of mine who is a Special Education teacher had a laptop THROWN at her by a student. He only got a daylong suspension from school. I'll betcha he'll do it again!
We educators are teaching kids raised by parents who can't parent, and we have to pick up the pieces and the blame, because parents are never wrong, right? 😮
@@kittyragdoll22 I also had a student who punched another student in the stomach for NO REASON and he was taken to the office and given coloring sheets to color. And we wonder why there is a teacher shortage...
a big part of the problem too is, we now have people who have mental health and severe emotional/behavior disorders in mainstream schools and classes, when in reality they need to be in a special program, not shoved into regular schools and classes ! food for thought, as we know, so many people think they need to bring back corporal punishment, i disagree, because we have many countries who outlawed that completely: Sweden, Finland, Holland, Cyprus, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, and more: they do not use physical punishment, not parents, or teachers; and yet the students/ youth, and adults for that matter are much better behaved than they are as a whole here in the US. over all crime rates and jail / prison population is much much lower, violence and other crime is much lower than it is here. school performance(grades, attendance), is much higher than here. I think we need to research what they are doing to make things more effective . these students as well as adult need more stability, they need positive stimulation and yes they do need t be held accountable. do the research, look it up: yes, these countries and more do not use any corporal punishment and they do not have the problems we are having here.
Our prison systems aren't ready for the huge influx of inmates they're gonna get in a few years. We're raising a violent, immoral, and belligerent generation. I'm an older Gen Z and I'm horrified to see the decline of behavior that happened so fast. It's a disgrace.
As a teacher I had zero problems with asian student. They were well behaved and worked hard....its the values and home family values
Yeah, it all stems from their home life and if their parents care enough to be on top of their education and correct bad behavior. At my last campus, most of the parents weren't in that category.
their parents are disciplined -- their kids live what they learned at home
Yeah but here in the USA single moms raise crap for kids. Blame modern feminism for like 98% of our problems.
I was an ESL teacher in So. Korea in 2002...what a difference!!!
100%
This mirrors the decline in our entire society. The creation of the nanny state and not being able to discipline children has been a disaster.
Absolutely! People don't realize schools are a "microsociety". They reflect all of our societal ills.
This country is falling apart.
That's what happens when we invoked Reaganomics, NAFTA, and Administrative takeover.
All the jobs shipped overseas; debt became extremely cheap (driving up prices) and administrative takeover focused more on quotas than relationships.
This has allowed millions of people to indulge in detrimental behaviors, lose well paying jobs, and get burnout from all the ridiculous bureaucracy that is slowing down the business sector.
Children and teens are are record levels of illiteracy that we haven't seen for over a century. Single parenthood and parents that pay no attention to their kids are largely the problem.
Nobody wants to take care of their kids anymore. They think giving their kids to others is good enough.
it's weird you cry about nanny states.... when the countries who are 'nanny states'' have better healthcare and educational systems. so nice try.
Imagine how the kids that are being bullied feel going to school day in and day out with these out of control kids!?! My son described it as being forced to enter prison 5 days a week.
School to prison pipeline it is designed so kids want to drop out I feel like and it is also the mindset of a lot of the chdren of illegal immigrants that much is obvious no one respects the law and order and yes it starts at home where are all these children coming from see the demographics
Yes!! My son loves school. His test scores are out of this world. But his teachers are not protecting him from the bullying, and the physical violence he's experienced. I don't feel safe with him in the school.
@@jupiterstone827that's awful, don't keep letting him attend that school. It's not wise
I would do homeschool
@@MattTaylor-xx7gs yup and kids can also attend a co-op school during the week for socializing.
Discipline was on the decline way before the pandemic…and, many parents will go in and defend their special little flowers, while attacking any teacher that dares to demand any kind of standards…if pop quizzes were given immediately after high school graduations, we would wonder what the point of education is…sad
Truth
Right! So tired of them blaming the pandemic. It was on the decline way before the pandemic.
@@msls6592consider that for better or worse, many of the methods of discipline used in the past are no longer acceptable in a modern society and that parents are criticized when their child is undisciplined even in spite of this.
It's like saying a parent is not legally allowed to provide effective methods of discipline, then blaming the same parent for their child being undisciplined.
@@msls6592I’ve been noticing this trend since I was in 3rd grade and that is in 2003
The problem is is that now we're all expected to cater to the lowest common denominator. And awful parenting.
If no child is left behind, that conversely means that no child gets ahead.
Exactly
Yup.
@@dixie0625 WELL YOU LEFT KID BEHIND PRIER TO 2001 AND THAY ARE ALL IN PRISON SO HOW IS GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR SOC. AND PENCHIN BECOUSE WE DONT HAVE A TAX BACE!
@@jeannettesilva4242 Pensions and a tax base are strengthened when everyone contributes, not when the wealthy are encouraged to use tax loopholes and given tax breaks. It's also financially beneficial when our leaders actually respond to energencies intelligently and responsibly, rather than having to placate and distract voters with "mea culpa" stimulus checks that add billions to the national debt.
I was a school nurse at a high school for a year and a half. I quit due to the awful way the parents interacted with their kids and me. They would threaten to sue me for not treating their sick kid…at the school…and I am a nurse, NURSE, just a plain old RN…not allowed to treat anyone without a doctor order. I was literally there for the kids with chronic ailments whose parents brought in orders from the doctor for their child’s specific needs and also there in case of an emergency. The teacher could send the sick student to me and parent would be contacted to come and get them or 911 called if it was an actual emergency. These nut jobs thought I had a whole pharmacy there and was there to diagnose their kid and give them medicine, ect. When I would explain that I could not do that they would holler at me over the phone, threaten me, and never could they come and get their sick child and take them to an actual doctor. I don’t know how I lasted as long as I did. I feel sorry for teachers. There is ZERO amount of money you could pay me to work in any school for any reason at all ever.
Argggh!! The parents are the problem.
@@karlabritfeld7104as a parent of 3, the fact that other parents WOULD NOT COME TO THE SCHOOL to get their sick kid just astounds me!! I almost can't even believe that is true at all, like it must be made up.
It both angers and saddens me to know that ANY "parent" would actually do that, let alone yell or get mad at the nurse, and yet I'm hearing that several parents have and continue to do just that. Do these parents have ANY respect or self-discipline at all? It scares me to think that these same people might have a job or family that they tend to, when they care this little about responsibility. It's also making me question if everyone else out in public might be that unwilling to take responsibility in certain situations. I have 3 children and my husband and I are living paycheck to paycheck, but I would never ever behave like that. It just sickens me.
Thanks for your very interesting but highly concerning comment. I question whether the parents were ever given information when their children were enrolled in school regarding the responsibilities of your former role, which were specific and not unlimited? The same principles would apply to teaching and other staff. Unless the head teacher and administration, together with the local/area government enforces these, the problems will just continue. There are some countries where parents are given a contract, detailing expectations on both sides. However, there would always be some parents who would never pay attention. But they couldn't argue that they did not know what the rules were.
I am based in the UK and have female two relatives who work in schools dealing with supporting special needs children. I hear truly horrifying stories. There are very strict rules about giving any first aid to children, which in principle is good, but the implementation is another matter. One of my relatives had to deal with a young child that fell over in the playground, grazed her knee, so cleaned it up and put a plaster/band aid on the knee. The next day the parents came in and met the head teacher and accused my relative of abusing the child, which clearly did not happen and was a complete fabrication, intending to try to get financial compensation. My relative was backed up, but just that one small incident shows how teachers can be abused. There are numerous other problems with parents: sometimes the school has to call the police to deal with parents who are fighting each other while waiting to collect the children. I feel so sorry for those children.
Read the school's expectations, if they have them. How hard could it be to just know the basics: your child must attend school until a certain age; your child and you are responsible for doing schoolwork, returning notes and permission slips; you and your child are to be respectful of other people on schoolgrounds. Not that hard.@@Lucienne-zz1sw
My Dad started working in a Jr high in 1955 he said then discipline was a high priority, he retired from working in 1987, he said then the discipline problem was out of control. You can only imagine how much worse it is now.
My siblings & I were scared of being bad in school. If we were sent to the Principal's office, we knew we'd be whipped when we got home.
@@merrywhiterose a big part of the problem too is, we now have people who have mental health and severe emotional/behavior disorders in mainstream schools and classes, when in reality they need to be in a special program, not shoved into regular schools and classes ! food for thought, as we know, so many people think they need to bring back corporal punishment, i disagree, because we have many countries who outlawed that completely: Sweden, Finland, Holland, Cyprus, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, and more: they do not use physical punishment, not parents, or teachers; and yet the students/ youth, and adults for that matter are much better behaved than they are as a whole here in the US. over all crime rates and jail / prison population is much much lower, violence and other crime is much lower than it is here. school performance(grades, attendance), is much higher than here. I think we need to research what they are doing to make things more effective . these students as well as adult need more stability, they need positive stimulation and yes they do need t be held accountable. do the research, look it up: yes, these countries and more do not use any corporal punishment and they do not have the problems we are having here.
@@Shannonbarnesdr1 Shannon, your point is valid but should look deeper. The "Inclusion-Idea" never worked, and everyone knew it from the beginning. The main problem is that, are regular Highschool Student would have been a mental health case 20 years ago because of developemental issues. Discipline is just a symptome.
And the scandinavian countries are not that much of a rolemodel anymore...and it boils down to culture. Does your culture around you shame you for bad grades and behaviour? Is it your DUTY as a child and student to be the best student you can be?
Corporal punishment isnt the best tool, but what is the alternative for people you cant reach with anything else. Lock them up as failed social experiments?
The sad truth is, looking at the state of young people and the demands of a future economy, 30% of people wont be able to participate in the workforce in a contributing manner.
during that time corporal punishment was also phased out of schools... talk to him about that... when you could no longer discipline students with physical correction, was this appropriately substituted with other methods, and how did students respond to this, also the transition period...
Its not just pay. It unruly students and parents!
Yes, she missed the mark. I spend my days dealing with behaviors instead of teaching lessons. There’s no accountability and no consequences for students, so the behaviors continue. That’s the problem that wasn't there before like it is now.
I agree. Teacher pay should definitely increase, but the job would still be the same. Parents need to teach their children responsibility, accountability, and respect. What is happening in our education system is not fair to the good kids who want to learn.
Not just the pay also class size.
Don’t forget, the law.
I'm in a post secondary education school and have been teaching for nearly 20 years. I can see the change in discipline and primary education changes in my time. Our nation is out of control because of allowing the students to treat the educators any way they want to. Teachers are more like baby sitters these days, and are powerless to actually teach, which is why we got into this job role to begin with.
Common man, you gotta respect the horribly behaved student first!!! Being sarcastic, gotta deal with the same thing each day.
It's the parents fault
I'm a retired teacher. When will we honestly look at the culture? The effect of pop culture on our society? The broken family? The system continues to attend to the behavior problems with programs that promote the very things that cause behavioral problems - self centeredness, self promotion, and the idea that the individual is not accountable nor receives consequences. We've lost our way morally and are trying to repair the problem while continuing with our moral decline and the decline of our society.
Yep also tiktok is rotting out society too
You sound like a fundamentalist go away
Maybe it's too late. Pandora's Box is wide open.
You are so right. This culture is failing the kids before they even enter a school.
I used to be a teacher and I quit teaching to do a job that pays less but I work remotely with no ride Kidd or parents. My flexible schedule allows me to focus on my son and his education. Unless I find maybe a private school that is different I don’t plan on going back.
Just retired after 32 years of high school teaching. A disaster now because there is so little respect and no more consequences for practically anything! No zeroes...
I've got 4 years to go before I retire after 30 years. This year is turning into my worst one yet. The kids and parents are horrific and now I'm questioning whether I can make it that long. I'm literally checking off the weeks and giving myself little rewards for making it through another one.
@@NS-vu5nt You will make it and then be free . ✨️
God bless you! As far as I am concerned anyone who can teach high school for 32 years is an absolute beast! This is year 26 for me. I have 4 more to go! Enjoy your retirement..you deserve it!!!
Many seasoned and veteran high school teachers in CA hate the job. The goal is no longer to educate curious minds, but to get through the day without a student confrontation. At this point it's just a check. Sad but true.
There are near zero "good" teachers and zero teachers who earn their pay.
They are riding out the years, waiting for the gold-plated pensions they'll get.
Which is seven-figures for a woman who leaves at 55 & lives into her 80s (as many do.)
@@rethinkcps2116 The hilarious part is, if it weren't for those seasoned veterans sticking around, most campuses would be filled w/ uncertified or 1st year teachers who have no pedagogical experience beyond listening to a professor. It can ALWAYS get much worse than it already is.
A check that will definitely not take you too far especially if you live near the metro areas.
@@MattTaylor-xx7gs - public service checks are COLAed.
They keep up with inflation.
We need discipline in our schools and we need fewer administrators and their ridiculous pay scale! Pay the teachers and give them authority to discipline! And get back to reading, writing and rithmatic, The 3 R’s! Oh, and some uncensored History as well!
Shorthand solution - no more teacher unions.
In the private sector, businesses go out of existence with unions.
In public sector - services (police, teachers, etc.) get worse and worse, while staffing goes up and up, employees are lazier and lazier.
SO they can turn out just like you right?
Pipe down.
We also need discipline at home so it is less of an issue at school
@ciaronsmith4995 it's better than what the current outcome is
So yeah
@@ciaronsmith4995 You should put down the pipe you mentioned. So what is wrong with a well rounded education?
Students are not held accountable.
Agreed and the parents also need to be held accountable.
nor is the lessons being taught
its administration that always is at the root. they stage the environment.
Parents are not being held accountable.
NO!!!! It's the lousy parents who don't establish boundaries early in life. You have too many single parents usually mothers on welfare with multiple children from failed relationships. Principals should be strong no nonsense men with a flair for maintaining discipline.
This breaks my heart! This is the reason I left teaching in 2016. Too many students, not being supported by admin, and parents who want you to raise their children. Add to this, the behavior is disgusting, and so is the pay.🙁
THE PAY IS BECOUSE IT IS BACED ON SINYORTY NOT WHO IS BEST. WE KNOW TEACHER WERE TOUGHT TO TEACH TO THE TEST. THAT IS WHAT IS HAPONING NOW! YOU GET WHAT YOU TOUGHT THERE PERINTS NOW YOU ARE SUFFERING THE CONSSAQINSES!
They don't get any consequences. It is ridiculous. Parents don't care. School is a graded daycare.
It isn't about the pay after some point. I left teaching b/c the whole system is broken and it had nothing to do with the pay and benefits (Gold Star health insurance and top tier pension). The schools did not hold the students responsible for learning and simply blamed the teachers. I had students miss 60, 70 80 days of school (in a 180 day school year), not make up the missed work and then be allowed to sit for the year end exams and it was my fault they didn't pass.
I've had freshman/9th graders in my Algebra class that were at a 3rd grade level math ability based on their 8th grade assessment. These students also could not read at even a 6th grade level, so could not read or comprehend what they were reading and could not set up the math problems and that was my fault.
No, it's not about the pay after a point, it's about the administration not supporting their teachers and not educating the parents that were constantly complaining. It's about the parents not holding their own children responsible for doing their homework and passing their tests. It's about parents expecting the school system to just pass their kid without knowing anything.
The system is broken.
Why can’t this system be fixed??? It’s going to take a complete Revolution of the school system! Like completely shut it down and start from scratch!! This is horrifying.
It doesn’t matter if u shut it down. Any system that u create will fail if the parents maintain the perception that their children shouldn’t b held accountable.
And those schools run by an administration that bullies the teachers get recognition for improving their graduation rates. And who got really hurt? The kids that will be fired from their job because no one taught them better. Very scenic and very sad.
IF THE KID FAILD LET THEM FAIL SOMETIMES FALLER IS THE BEST TEACHER!
Best decision i ever made, leaving the classroom has opened so many doors for me professionally.
@@RockingItInGrade4 I am currently a case manager helping homeless individuals get housing and employment, as well as other services. Also I am in graduate school now to obtain my MBA
you were prepared by teachers, and standardized parenting
What career did you choose?
We NEED 87,000 treachers not IRS agents
Speaking out against the IRS is reason for audit lol
A a few thousand prison guards
Prison reform @@atomictime9410
Not if the teachers are as crappy as what we already have.
Floridas veteran teachers need raises.
No consequences for bad behavior.
The pay doesn’t bother me as much as administration blaming teachers for the behavior of the kids.
In my classroom, I had a student kick me which caused me to send him to the principal's office. He was there for a total of 10 minutes, returned with a sticker on his shirt and was allowed to return to the classroom. Then it would all start over again! Nothing would change by sending him to the principal's office.
I didn't get kicked it wasn't that bad but I had a similar situation with an out of control student. The principal played a game with him and sent him back to class
It’s not the teachers, it’s their parents for not educating their kids the proper way
These teachers are experiencing a burnout not to mention working in a unsafe environment due to contributing factors (1)violence, (2)misbehaving kids, (3) low salary, (4)undervalued, (5) unappreciated etc.
What I have heard, it seems there are teacher who develop complex PTSD on their jobs!
BEHAVIOR is the problem. Not the pay.
Extra pay? How about discipline and not calling it abuse when you're correcting a child?
Funny my sons private school costs 1/3 of public. Didn’t close during Covid and don’t have staffing issues. Maybe we need to instill some structure, dress codes, and discipline in all schools.
"Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann Coulter). Notice how often our leaders talk about "family" and never mention "MARRIAGE". Everything else is a Band-Aid on a festering wound.
Not just in schools……Congress, too.
You know you Maga clowns can post anything you want. But only an idiot would believe a REAL private school would cost 1/3 of a public school ( which by the way would have NO tuition)
Most private schools pay teachers hardly anything
We homeschooled and then sent our kids to private school, and dont regret it ...school dress code and high behavior and academic standards.
Out of control and absolutely no support from administration
I'm a middle school math teacher in my 60's, I love teaching and helping my students nerd out achieve success in academics. I'm in a new school district this year. I loved my previous rural school, but the pay was simply too low to cover my expenses. My new school is larger and also serves a rural community, but they gave me a substantial raise in pay plus an additional stipend because its hard for them to attract math teachers. The math instruction at my new school had serious issues in the last couple of years, with several teachers quitting part way through the year - mainly over massive student behavioral issues, fights in the classrooms, etc. Most of my 7th grade students test out between the 2nd to 5th grade level, fully half the students failed the state test. I can handle the tough students, but discipline is the least favorite part of my day and it ruins classroom lessons for the students who want to learn. I would say that for every student who who wants to learn, there are five or six students with some combination of hostility towards education, families who do not care, or psychological behavior issues. I call them the Tik-Tok generation. I do not allow cellphones in my classroom, but on their own time many of them are watching inappropriate, nasty, graphic and sexual videos. When they come to school they have those images on their mind and its in their conversations. I want cameras in my classroom, and to allow parents to come to school and watch what their kids are doing in the classroom. I don't want it live streamed for privacy reasons.
I'm having the same issues. I teach a college tech program. Used to love my job and trade. The higher-ups at my institution have started catering tech programs to high schoolers. Of course, it's all about the money. 90% of the students don't actually want to be there. They use it as an excuse to get out of high school for part of the day. This semester has been horrendous. To the point I'm leaving at the end of the semester. Time to move on. Your comment about the "tik-tok generation" is spot on. I'm done with it.
I've been subbing in the Central Valley of California for the past 5 years. I was thinking about becoming a teacher and even passed the elementary school teaching exams. However, all the discipline issues made me decide against becoming a teacher. In the lower grades, school districts are now insisting on including special ed and special needs children in the same classroom as normal children. So, I've been in TKs, Kindergartens, as well 1st through 5th grades, that had one or more students that were completely out of control, running around the classroom, throwing things, throwing tantrums, stealing (even eating other students lunches), and hitting other students. In one instance, counselors had to clear the classroom to get a 2nd grader under control. In another instance, a 1st grader pooped his pants and then threw bits of it at another student. Really, some students simply need a special classroom environment where their mental issues can be addressed and where they can have their own special curriculum; putting them in a normal classroom setting does an extreme disservice to them, as well as to the teacher and fellow students. As for the higher grades, especially in middle school, my experience has been like yours. I would say in every class of 25 to 30+ students, maybe 5 or 6 are actually learning anything. For the rest, they simply don't care. They have no attention span except for gossip, video games, and TikTok videos. They know the teachers will pass them, that the administrators will go easy on them (especially if the teacher is a sub), and that their parents either don't care or will side with them against the teacher. And as for cellphone use, in many schools, especially high schools, the administrators have basically given up on doing anything serious about it, when they actually need to implement consistent, zero tolerance enforcement.
If you were to take pay out of the matter. Would you still want to be a teacher?
@@reynoldsje If pay was not an issue I would have been very happy to stay at my previous middle school. As it was I needed income from a second job - which means that less of my focus was on my students. I feel confident that I am winning students and parents in my new school - but it is a slow process. I have had many staff and administrators visit my classroom and they are happy to have a genuine math teacher who holds students accountable for their work and behavior. It is hard work to lift up low academic achievement - but next year I will no longer be the new guy and the incoming students will already know that I have no fear of giving low grades and failing students. The result of my standards is that now students come to my class before school starts in the morning, and come after school for math assistance.
Wow. Thank you. Some days when teaching (and later guest-teaching) I thought maybe I was having nightmares; that no one would believe me when I repeated actions of students, and I must be the one causing a boy to pull down his pants to show genitals, that girls would throw a chair at another person, that a child would stand up and throw a book across the room.@@thehighllama8101
One of the big problems here is the lack of parenting. Young kids, especially boys, are full of boundless energy. This has to be controlled by parents, not teachers. There must be boundaries and rules that are enforced. Too often they are not. It is important to think about what kind of adult you want your child to be and work towards that goal.
Your gender bias is showing. Many females are no angels either.
IT IS CALLED RECESS WE USETO HAVE IT!
Retired teacher here. All of the above. No surprise to me why teachers are leaving in droves. No professional respect. Most kids are good people, but the few that aren't get away with horrible behavior, and the other kids know it. The after-hours demands on your time are beyond ridiculous. Students' behavior, attendance and performance is all the teachers' fault (are you kidding me?!) It gets worse. I loved teaching 40 years ago, but you couldn't pay me enough to go back in this environment.
I am a special education teacher. I am part of the problem. Yes, I am under compulsion by the powers that be to pass kids along. I have addictions like food, clothing, shelter, a wife and kids I must support. I have soul strangling mountains of paperwork, documentation, ARD preps and close to 30 students on my caseload which is twice the norm. I apologize for there only being 24 hours in a day and I can’t get it done… my job is dictated by politicians and lawyers so I get no input. I am the professional and yet not a professional. When kids act out it is MY fault I can’t control them. Even though their parents can’t either I am supposed to be the miracle worker and fail miserably. In all seriousness, I love my students and someone once said “Teaching is like a bad marriage - you stay in it for the kids”. I apologize for not being Superman. I am the problem…
You’re doing an amazing job. This job used to be valued because of the appreciation. This country just doesn’t value the people who are supposed to care.
You ARE NOT the problem 😢
it's weird you have listed needs as... addictions.
@@GorgieClarissa it’s hyperbole, satirical.
YES AND IF WE DONT FIX IT THE KID IN SPED WILL PAY THE PRICE JUST LIKE I DID SO TEACHER AND PERINT NEED TO STOP FIGHTING OND FIX IT. THAT MEENS THERE ARE GOING TO BE KIDS HELLED BACK. THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THE KIS ARE THE PRODUCK OF THE SCHOOL NOT THE SOORS ON THE MONEY!
While I'm not a school teacher, I once taught at private school for middle and high school students for computer science and also currently volunteer as Sunday School teacher at church as well, and I noticed the trend of undisciplined children especially with current generation of kids. Even 5 years ago, most kids were mostly well behaved. Now, I fear facing kids, even at a church, because kids are just wild and uncontrolled, and kids are yelling and screaming, jumping and running around in the middle of class. A few days ago, even when one of the parents came into talk to her child who was misbehaving, the kid didn't even listen. If child doesn't listen to his parents, they're not going to listen to teachers.
My daughter in law lasted one year as a teacher, she said the kids are horrible. She now promotes homeschooling and is changing careers. She taught high school and the kids have the mental capacity of 5th graders. The dumbing down of kids it real people homeschool your kids.
Which career is she now pursuing?
The dumbing down of kids ___ it real people ___ homeschool your kids. 🤣 Is she serious? Nice run-on. Missing her contraction. This dumby giving advice about education! Just retired as a public high school English teacher. Forget it. Hopeless situation.
This goes for bus drivers too. No respect or any support from your district. No raises or help with the kids. The kids/parents run the district with no rules or consequences. You see the aftermath on TV right now around the world! The youth of our times have finally been told "no"!! From the real society.
Literally everything in America is falling apart now. This country won’t last much longer if it continues to go in this current direction.
no not me & no not my body but thumb up! 😄
Most administrations don't allow teachers to fail students, even if the student puts forth no effort at all. This means that students are being pushed from grade to grade with no meaningful level of education at all. You are left with high school graduates who can't even read the diploma that is handed to them. This is not what the teachers want, but their hands are tied. Each year teachers are taking in a large percentage of students that didn't meet the requirements of the previous grade. This problem comes from the top.
There are so many people on her blaming the teachers and teacher's union. THey don't realize that for the most part teachers' hands are tied by the administration of their school and district. Teachers do not want to automatically pass students who have done know work. They don't want that child who demolished their classroom to be returned to their classroom 15 minutes later with a sucker.
That's what happens when kids are allowed to run wild.
I'm a middle school science teacher. Thirty-eight years in the lab and classroom and this is my last year teaching. Please, please, please prohibit students from having phones in the classroom. Everything went south when students began carrying them.
WAY? BECOUSE WE CAN SEE WHAT TEACHERS ARE DOING NOW!
@@jeannettesilva4242 It is imperative that you limit your phone usage, as it appears to negatively impact your spelling and sentence construction. Furthermore, I would recommend that you consider enrolling in additional writing courses. Your current skill level underscores the challenges and pressing needs within the teaching profession.
NO THAT IS CALLED DYSLESYA AND BAD TEACHER AND A BADE TEACHING PLAN IT IS THE SAME RESON KID CAN'T READ TO DAY GO LOOK HOW THAY CHANGED TEACHING IN THE 70 PRIER TO YOU BECOMING A TEACHER! OVERPAY FOR PECE OF CRAP!
TOO LATE! WE NOW ATHER PERINT KNOW WHAT I HAVE KNOW SENC I WAS IN 4TH GRAD!
@@Dstar5me I DID NOT HAVE A CELL PHON TILL I WAS 29 THE BAD SPELLING CAME FROM BAD TEACHER LIKE YOU I HAVE TO USE A DICINER BECOUSE OF YOU BASTERS!
Two words: social media... social media is silently the root cause of a lot of society's issues most especially with the young people today or if not the root cause, it ENHANCES the issues society has: behavioral issues, mental health, suicide, homicides, physical assaults, lack of discipline, lack of focus, materialism, drugs, disrespect, anger issues, laziness, addictions... Social media is more of a detriment to this world, than any good it could ever do.
This is my first year in a classroom setting after spending the past three years working in a nurse's office...
The students in the classroom I'm assisting in have no real consequences, instead they're bribed with prizes and candy, anything to get them to behave, in which after they get what they want they go right back to being Chucky dolls.
Teachers are not allowed to even grab a student by the hand/arm when they're swinging punches at you, yet two students have gotten physical with me and their only consequences was to "issue you me an apology". (WTH)!!!!
Imagine if it were the other way around... heck, I'd be all over the news, bombarded with hate mail, on my way to jail with a record to follow me the rest of my life.
The system is truly jacked up.
There's no way I'm returning next year to this jungle crap!!
In the 1980s as a kid, I remember in elementary school every kid sitting at their desk with their hands folded waiting for the teacher to start class. Very quiet in the classroom. The teacher would hand out 10 to 12 worksheets, and each had instructions on them. You had to read each one and understand what to do. If you then had a question-- you raised your hand. I remember some kids raising their hand for 15 minutes straight before the teacher stopped by...no one spoke unless the teacher spoke to them. Every kid was dressed really well too...and we were respectful to our teachers. I loved the 80s🇺🇸-- on the bus ride home I remember hearing songs on the bus radio like " drive" from the cars...it was just so chill. The best version of America, in my opinion.
It was like that here in Britain too. I loved growing up in the 70/80’s. Shows you much we’ve lost. It’s real sad.😔
@buildertrash4102 My theory on the way kids behave...is...parents don't smack them anymore. One major reason I was a good kid...is because my mom smacked me with a paddle if I was bad.... #1 it hurt. #2 it was embarrassing. After a while, you realized you deserved it and then changed your behavior.
Yeah especially in assembly where you had to where a white shirt and blue plants and a red or blue tie and if you were caught talking well it was the principals office
School in the '50s was great also.
I remember one of the biggest fears other than your parents getting called was being sent to the office. Now when a teacher sends a student to the office even for something serious like throwing a chair at another student, the child returns 15 minutes later with a sucker. THe call to the parent often ends with the parent screaming at the teacher and blaming the teacher. In the 1980's, if a child failed, the parents blamed the child and asked the teacher what can we do to help our child succeed. Nowadays the parents blame the teacher and ask her what she is going to do so insure the child passes. Something has fundamentally shifted in schools. This rage focusing on the teacher's unions does not address that there has been a huge societal shift that is now playing out in out schools.
Meanwhile professional athletes make Millions of dollars playing 12 games a year. We as a society value the wrong contributions.
YES, PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES GET PAYED A LOT, BUT THAY HAVE TO PRODUSS TO GET PAY IF YOU PRODUST LIKE TEACHERS THAY WOULD NOT HAVA JOB! I DON'T REMEMBE ONE TEACHER GETTING FIRED EXEPT THE ONE THAT WAS SLEEPING WITH A KID!
Did NOT address student behavior as suggested at the beginning of segment. People need to know about student behavior!!
I came out of retirement in 2019. I left before the end of the semester.
I had no support from the administrators. The student’s behavior had greatly degraded in ten years time.
Home school. It’s easy. You can complete the curriculum in three hours and use everyday activities as a lesson. Grocery shopping for math and science is one example.
There are support groups in every community.
I used to be a high school history teacher and it is ashamed how teachers, students and education are under valued. Please do better educating our future leaders.
No amount of extra pay would make me return to education.
Nothing worse than unruly kids.
Back when I was in school cell phones were first coming out so no one had one out in class at all. I feel like social media and smart phones are a root of this problem
Cell phones can be helpful to support learning if used in the right way. using the internet on the phone to look up explanations and examples on how to math problems. But most often it’s not used in the way to support learning but as a distraction.
I remember teacher burnout being an issue even in the 80s. I cant imagine how horrible it is today.
I was going to teach high school mathematics in the early 2000s. I’m so happy I chose a different path. (Veteran here)
I am so glad I am not teaching now. I have been retired for 28 years and am shocked at the changes that have happened.
Have parents teach their kids at home for the lockdown period , this speaks volumes . Majority of parents today are not parenting. It’s pathetic.
Respect is a two-way street. And teachers are openly speaking about doing the bare minimum just to get a cheque, whilst calling kids names, all viewable online by students and parents alike. So why would you expect respect when you have no intention to extended it. You’re right, it is pathetic.
@user-no9xy3xy8l This is the minority of cases as someone who's worked in education.
@NaturalBrownCupcake I’m also in education. Well, was. I’ve taught at a well known Canadian university for almost a decade, that would be how I know what’s happening to these kids. It’s so bad and the teachers are so out-of-control that I’ve quit my job and we’re homeschooling him whilst we find a more suitable educational institution. Private really is the way to go.
@@KateSmith-h2f Ok. Our experiences and demographics are different. You're in Canada and I'm in New England, USA. Of the teachers/ colleagues I've had, I'd say 8 to 9 out of 10 come to school for the kids and love teaching. Then I saw the minority where they were jaded or never committed but just show up. Still, I like to defend my colleagues because it's not an easy job, but we mostly come to give it our all and take a lot of criticism. Still, I in no means am trying to invalidate your experience. I'm sorry that your experience is different.
2 jobs no one wants. 1. Police officer. 2. Classroom teacher.. Guess why america????? We digress
It’s even worse for the substitute teachers. They are basically like the step parent of the classroom.
@@taraking6472and if you go to most schools throughout a normal week probably 30-50% of the staff is substitute teachers.
I’m a behavioral specialist at a public school and we are literally being trained to deescalate student behaviors by giving the students what they want and negotiating with extra disruptive kids. It’s ridiculous and makes no sense. We’re raising future convicts.
Maybe that's what they want, jails/prisons are profitable.
Myself and four other teach friends have quit and started a homeschool co-op with other parents for our kids and others in our community. We have about 30 students and they are doing outstanding.
My children are grown, If I had school-age children now, they would be home schooled and not take one step inside a government school.
We’re u, ur dad, ur grandpa, and ur great grandpa all raised in the government school?
It all starts in the home.
As a teacher, even with only a bachelor degree, the problem is not the pay. The problem is there are no negative consequences for bad behavior. In fact, both kids and parents know if they behave badly enough they will actually get rewarded. Even my Asst. Principal, who is regularly cussed out and threatened and never bats an eye or gives in, is dealing with a parent of a girl who I sent to Time Out (Time, Out! … for two minutes tops!) AP asked me -in tears - to please apologize to this student because if the AP has to have a face-to-face with the girl’s mother she won’t sleep for a week. THIS is what no amount of pay will fix.
I'm an elementary school teacher as well, and see the exact same nonsense at my school. One of the parents got so offended because I told him (in a polite way) that his son was kicking the walls in my classroom and coloring on it with crayons. The dad went straight to the principal and complained about it and said he doesn't want to hear anything more about his son's behavior at school! Now the kid gets snacks and coloring sheets at the office when he misbehaves. I'm so done with this nonsense.
The administrators of our failing schools all need to be FIRED. Failing to nail down the safety at school for the children AND the teachers is unforgivable. But keep blaming parents and changing nothing.
When I was in school my teacher used to thank me for being quiet and actually doing the work. I even got bullied for doing my work in class and called a nerd and many other things 🤦🏾♀️
Sure hope you have a nice life with all the amenities that go with that. And your bullies are flipping burgers.
It's the parents responsibility to make sure their kids go to school. I believe it's the law that needs to be enforced. Parents are responsible not tbe schools or the teachers!
Why don't we call it what it is, BAD parenting.
Yeah, thanks to modern feminism our society is falling apart. Children don't even have a father anymore to help raise them.
You're absolutely right. Parents don't want to be responsible for anything negative that happens in their lives and this is reinforced in the children. Parents take no responsibility for how their children, or they themselves, act. Lack of consequences for bad behavior is literally ruining our children and our country as a whole.
I work with early years and 'tired' is indeed a new kind of tired for educators. Children don't listen any more. They can be violent, they hurt each other and we have to just try to stop them all day. On top of that we try to teach them and care for them and it's 3 different jobs in one! We try to explain in different ways to them to stop hurting others and it's very hard because they don't understand consequences or empathy.
Seems you are a last woman standing! Your service is as important as that of the army defending the country. You are the first defense! I'm real sorry, that you are so tired, but your heroic efforts are greatly appreciated by many normal people. Keep the consequences going and keep teaching them values. The whole system basically falls or stands with you prevailing in this immense task. Because of your teachings all of these kids lives will be better. Some won't become bullies, due to your installing of values. Some won't become victims of bullies as well, since there will be less bullying. You might even prevent a school shooting 10 years from now.
Ten million dollars a month wouldn't be enough for me to take a job in some of today's public schools. The trauma and danger is unreal. And now you can't even suspend the worst offending students, at least in California.
This is so sad. I graduated high school in 2014 and I loved attending school. It helped take my mind off of my difficult home life and I appreciated my teachers not only for teaching me but also being there for me through those difficult years. I’m 28 now and wondering how they are doing. With the way things are now, I can’t imagine teaching. I’m glad I appreciated my education and I’m glad I let them know back then that they were appreciated.
I remember back in 2007 2008 there was a woman who ran the Washington DC school system who thought it would be a good idea to get rid of veteran teachers. The philosophy was that veteran teachers were out of touch and unprofessional, therefore younger teachers with new ideas were better. Remember “Waiting for Superman”? This is what happened and many of my friends lost their careers. in addition, school mental health workers were laid off and fired because they weren’t seen as worthy during those days. Because of this, I resigned from my mental health job due to constant bullying and threats of job loss. That type of philosophy and action is why we are where we are today. Many education systems in other states were doing this. Because educators were not valued during a pivotal time in history, we do not have what we need today to manage this post pandemic crisis.
My friend got stabbed with scissors last week. He teaches second grade
Wait... What? That kid still in school? Or on a 3 day out and come back only with the nicest apologies and the threat of out forever Plus child protective services alarmed if anything even comes close to such behavior ever again.
Shame on the school board and the principal.
There has been a big change in children’s behavior since I started working in education 17 years ago. Behavior has gotten much worse since Covid. I work in a middle school in Illinois and I’ve seen the changes. Veteran teachers are retiring early or just leaving the profession all together. Since Covid we have a severe shortage of subs. Teachers have to sub on their planning periods. This has been going on for three years and they are burned out. The subs aren’t coming back. The largest population of subs were baby boomers and retired teachers. Retired teachers want no part of subbing. The lack of respect from students to staff is awful. Parents blame the schools but it’s the parents fault. It’s their job to raise their children not ours! Our job is to educate their children. When parents raise disrespectful brats it’s hard to educate children like this when they disrupt the classroom. In many cases administrators hands are tied. They need to be expelled and have to do remote learning at home. It will then become the parents problems.
West suburbs? May wood bellwood?
Out of control does not need quotations. They are out of control
My school system? One of the teachers just recently was *shoved* by a student after trying to get two preteen boys to stop fighting. Rather than back her, after the incident she was chastised to "keep better control of her classroom". *Unbelievable.*
My daughter will begin her junior year as an elementary education major in 2024. She loves children and is so excited for her career in teaching. I am so concerned for what she will face in the current state of US education.
If she stays with the lower grades she should be ok. It’s the upper grades where the kids behavior is horrible
@@mommyandliamshow9546the lower grades can be challenging too.
Tell her to pursue speech pathologist. You make great money and don't have to worry about classroom discipline. She could simply work with small groups daily. It's the way to go and she would have job security. She does not want to be in the classroom. It's horrible.
@@KenAdams-lt1ld funny, she actually mentioned that she would like to do speech pathology. Is this something she would specialize in after she gets her education degree, or would she need to change her major?
It varies by state so i would talk to a counselor at the college for guidance. Here is mostly the requirements:
Complete a state-approved certification preparation program in Speech and Language Pathology at the master’s degree level;
Complete a master’s degree level or higher program approved by the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA);
Hold a valid ASHA Certificate of Clinical Competence (CCC) in Speech and Language Pathology;@@Summerdee223
Many people do not realize that home school does not mean the parent has to be the teacher. There are homeschool online services the parent can set up (and monitor) to allow children to attend via computer. Some services are free. My son and daughter-in-law pay about $1200 per school year for a service that they are very happy with.
$1200 divided by 36 school weeks is just over $33 per week. Only feasible to do online with your child watching the computer screen all day long.
@@hanshansen3885 It is my understanding that my granddaughter is online about 4 hours per day. I believe there have also been books provided to work out of. Extra online support time is provided if needed. Also she recently received some credit for vacation time to a national Aquarium and Zoo (as many other schools do, with documentation and a written report). Like I mentioned there are free options available. I think some homeschool options are actually provided by public schools. If someone needs more info they can simply search for "free online homeschool programs".
Exactly. My niece does that. Due to her disability it is actually paid for by insurance. But even if they had to pay for it, it is inexpensive. It's less than $100 a month. 4:23
All programs are not the same, so u have to b careful of these services. As a teacher we have had many students who re-entered the school system very behind bc they were just given busy work, made all A’s in terms of grades, but never truly learned. I also facilitated some of these online classes. It seemed to work well for Gifted and AP kids that were juniors and seniors. It didn’t not work well at all for the 9th grade class I facilitated. They did the work but before a test, they would ask me to take them to my classroom and teach them the curriculum bc although they aced the work, they had not truly learned the material
NOT ALL KID CAN DO SCHOOL ON A COMPUTER! REMOT LERNING WAS A NIGHT MIER FOR MY LITTLE ONE BCOUSE SHE IS SPESHOLNEEDS! IF SHE WAS GOOD WITH SCHOOL ONLINE, SHE WOULD NOT BE IN SCHOOL!
Single parents, no family support, no discipline, excuses for horrible behavior, lack of religion and faith, and a divided country is destroying our educational system.
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN
Teachers need extra pay AND respect. People who have OUT OF CONTROL children (I'm not calling them PARENTS) and people who are SUPPOSED to be school administrators are the problem. ATTEMPTING TO blame teachers for the problems in schools does not absolve them of THEIR responsibilities. Teachers should not be rearing children who are not their own.
We need to bring back the paddle. When my teacher pulled out her paddle we all fell in line. Only recall her using it one time. Now I look back, she was the best teacher I ever had.
They can't because people will sue. It's too much of a liability. I wish they would bring it back and some states still can paddle, but it never happens out of fear of lawsuits. My dad used to paddle me and it worked wonders: I respect my elders, never have done illegal drugs, never been arrested, etc...but who knew that discipline works?
I quit after a month of being a substitute teacher. That was in 1997. I've been a private tutor ever since. I still have my sanity. I'm not sure that would be the case if i had stayed in the educational system.
Is it full time work?
I was an absentee student. Missed 80 days out of 180-day school year. Graduated with high honors. Why? Because my Mom taught me how to think.
We are tired of being sick & tired!!!
Parenting is more than just feeding your kid
Why is it the teachers responsibility for poor students attendance? What a dumb question by the reporter 🙄
The pay is absolutely pathetic for teachers in many areas. Especially Florida.
I taught for 7 years with no raise. At intro pay. With inflation I was actually getting poorer every year. I quit teaching because of pay and complete disrespect from parents, administrators, and students. It ruined my mental health to the point I was having to seek medical help. Almost every teacher in my school was taking antidepressants and Valium or Xanax. I also had to work a second job being a wife and new mother. I was literally throwing up before school because I had to go back into such a toxic environment.It’s just not worth it. I quit and I’m 100% happier in my life.
Same here. I don’t think anyone can truly understand unless they have lived it
I'm so sorry for you
I can totally relate to this. I wake up in the middle of the night with panic attacks about going to school the next day. Sometimes I will get up and get dressed and the anxiety is so bad I will get literally sick to my stomach and have to call in sick. Today was one of those days. Set my alarm, got up at 4 am, got ready to go, and was having such a bad panic attack that I had to take the day off. My caseload is 185 students, and not motivated well behaving students. I am well educated, have multiple certifications, have been teaching for over 20 years, am caring and kind, and yet the students treat me so horribly and are so downright hateful that my mental health is declining. I had to go on anxiety medicine just to be able to go to work. No one would understand except another high school teacher. 185 students is too many with the behavior issues of today!
@@isabellaflorentina7574 Get out of there! No one is worth that! Find an alternative, any alternative. You will be developing auto-immune illness next, or heart disease. Save yourself from Complex PTSD.
My full sympathies for these hard working teachers. The extreme behaviour by some of these kids is absolutely common now. Many of us are dealing with it but no one is having deal with this more than teachers. No discipline by parents, no discipline by the school. No one is allowed to say no to these kids. The bad kids are a bunch of Karens.
I quit too. Tired of being a nanny for kids with no manners.
Parents aren’t disciplining kids
Parents to blame
Kids belong to the government. Parents are irrelevant now. Kids got the message and would call 911 on their parents if parents stress them.
I quit teaching high school history after 16 years in a town because they wanted to offer us a 0% raise and have us teach a extra class for for free, while the superintendent shaffer and top brass voted themselves a 20% raise. HUNDREDS of teachers including myself quit for better paying suburban districts. I work in a wonderful town now with supportive parents and great admins.
Good for you but...people are working mighty hard to bring Paterson to your new place.
@@tayachting6345 the charters tried and failed because they couldnt compete with the top notch public schools and private ones. The locals are too smart and know the charter's plans to bilk the tax payers and drive up property taxes. My old district they went up 65% in 6 years thanks to charters
With the huge migrant issue, no one's talking about that additional in education in America.
The problems are the parents.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Good for you.l teachers are undervalued