This is true at top ten colleges for sure- esp Harvard and Penn- and when you see 1.5x odds at schools yes. But when 80% or 50% of a class is filled early they are not all athletes or legacy- Harvard runs one of the stronger legacy games and they are probably 15-20% legacy vs 30% as they used to be. The trend toward ED is rising though
@@SupertutorTV Yes, I had heard that it was 30% and doesn’t include it’s graduate programs in legacy. The drop doesn’t surprise me. Thank you for your reply.
Legacy! Lol. It only matters if the alumni are donating money. If no money coming in then legacy is meaningless for admissions. I work at an elite school.
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This just made me so extremely anxious about not applying ED anywhere… like I want to be able to compare financial package but what if I don’t get into any of the schools I really want to because I applied EA and RD
I think the ED numbers are completely skewed not only by legacies and athletes but also targeted URM, low income and 1st generation students. A lot of Top schools will do Flyover programs so if those kids apply, they will probably get accepted. Bottom line: If you are a normal student without a hook (athlete, legacy,. URM , low income), your chances are probably almost identical between ED and RD - maybe a couple of % higher - not 20-30%
From working as an independent consultant-- 50% of my students* who applied ED/REA/EA to their top choice school (or regular if to a UC as top choice) got in-- second round the drop off was STEEP last year. Things are changing and I'm seeing huge advantage early right now with the cohort I work with (typically not URM/low income, typically NOT athlete, legacies excluded I get those sometimes but didn't have many last year-- but may have great activities, incredible accomplishments, amazing recs and always strong stats) (*24/36 of my students elected to respond to our annual survey, majority of those who didn't respond did ~1-2 lessons only vs more)
My parents told me I can't go ED and had to apply REA, this makes me sad to see that if I could have chosen an ED school like Brown I actually would have had a better chance
When I went on a tour there they said that they take about 25% from each pool. Considering that the pool sizes are smaller for ED you have a better chance. Take this with a grain of salt bc when they gave their info section idk if they gave the harsh reality
I want to go to one of these top schools! I have gotten almost all A’s with A-‘s and B+, B, and B-. Sophomore year tanked my gpa as I got the B-grades. Other than that I have gotten straight A’s. I have been taken Honors/AP and have great EC’s. Where is it best to ED to have a decent shot of getting in.
Hey Brooke, I plan on applying ED to either UPenn or Dartmouth and I’m conflicted I love both schools but UPenn is closer to home (but it also has a lower acceptance rate for ED applicants and tends to prioritize student athletes in the ED round) any advice
Hey Brooke, do you think applying to Duke early decision is a good idea if I am a first generation international student since Duke seems really into demonstrated interest? Also, thanks a lot for the video!
Hello Brooke! I’m thinking about applying Ed to NYU but I still wanna apply to other top colleges like Princeton. However, I wanna secure a spot at NYU in case I don’t get into the other top colleges-though I might choose not to go there if they do not provide me with enough financial aid-Should I apply ED? And let’s say I got in and they offered me a decent aid package, am I allowed to reject it even if I can afford going there after the aid?
NYU notoriously gaps people on aid. Their aid sucks. You can reject it if you can't afford it but you get to decide the line you can afford. Just don't go to a more $$$ school after that if you turn it down. But if you ED you should be prepared to go to NYU and not go to Princeton. You'll need to tell them what your negotiation line is with aid and they may not tell you immediately what they can do for you. I had a student at an Ivy request more aid and it didn't come through until early March.
What are your thoughts on transfers to NYU or top schools like that. We can’t apply through an ED/EA process so how much do our chances drop from there?
I remember you saying in one of your previous videos that ND wants to see a test score. I was thinking if you wanna go to ND and don’t have a test score your only real option is REA, correct? Also you referred to ND as having ED but they have REA I was just a little confused I am assuming that all their stats were for REA
Great video! I didn’t see Yale or Stanford (the 2 schools my daughter is considering for EA). Can I assume there’s not much advantage for EA at either school? Do you have EA stats for either school? Thanks!
Yale should be on the blog chart did you check that? Stanford doesn't release data but IMO there is an advantage to early. At least from my students that I work w/. Particularly when a school sends multiple students SCEA it leaves little room for great candidates RD who didn't get in at Harvard etc. even if they were stronger candidates than the ones already admitted. supertutortv.com/college/best-kept-secret-in-college-admission-rates/
what about ed1 to northeastern university? id really want to go there as it’s my top choice but their ed acceptance rates fluctuated last year due to a higher concentration of applicants
Brooke, I remember that you did a video referencing applying ED to the Ivies may not be a good strategy if you are not a legacy as they are advised to apply ED and that could be a big pool of applicants. Does the ED% account for all of the legacies, i.e. Yale’s ED Pool%. Thank you and love your informational videos!!
Right these stats over represent the advantage at about top five or top ten schools (at HYPS for ex) That was my point in the other video. There is still an advantage conferred though I would say even without athletics or legacy at least from what I’ve been seeing post Covid. This is the first cycle of data that we’ve had post Covid so I am shifting on my advice on this point given that data. We’ve not seen early numbers this high in the past I think “. I also had a couple kids get in regular who did SCEA last year and I think that extra knowledge that a college is the students first choice helps. Below the top ten or so these stats underrepresent the early advantage IMO
Hello Brooke, Hi Brooke, is applying to early action to uchicago much more advantageous than applying regular or if we want a real high chance, should we apply early decision?
Please talk about international student. I’m a student in Hong Kong and I wanna get into an Ivy League school, but we don’t have ap courses here in Hong Kong, what can I do?
Brook, I’m thinking about applying to Duke ED but don’t know if my family can afford it. Since it is a need-blind college, does that change how I can get out of the binding agreement?
Need blind means they won’t see if you can pay full tuition or not when they read your application. It is beneficial to students who need financial aid. ED is a good idea but I would try to email or dm duke students and ask how they’re financial aid is
Hey brooke, I want to know something, please response. I'm an international student, my stats, extracurriculars are pretty good and I'm thinking of applying to Bowdoin ED. They says in their website that thay are need blind for all students from this year, but in their youtube channel, they says, their admission policy is need based. As I'm gonna need a 'crazy' aid, should I apply to bowodin ED?
But I’ve been heard/read that the ED1 numbers aren’t exactly accurate because colleges use a lot of their early spots for athletes and legacies.
This is true at top ten colleges for sure- esp Harvard and Penn- and when you see 1.5x odds at schools yes. But when 80% or 50% of a class is filled early they are not all athletes or legacy- Harvard runs one of the stronger legacy games and they are probably 15-20% legacy vs 30% as they used to be. The trend toward ED is rising though
@@SupertutorTV Yes, I had heard that it was 30% and doesn’t include it’s graduate programs in legacy. The drop doesn’t surprise me. Thank you for your reply.
Legacy! Lol. It only matters if the alumni are donating money. If no money coming in then legacy is meaningless for admissions. I work at an elite school.
Is it true that athletes have a higher chance? (I'm a national silver medalist swimmer from India, planning to apply to Harvard)
@@suryasharma7308yes athletics is one of the main money makers for colleges so universities will prioritize good athletes.
The channel is very useful. It's opened eye for us, who are Vietnamese and preparing for US admission. We recommend to all people. Thank you and wish you all the best!
This just made me so extremely anxious about not applying ED anywhere… like I want to be able to compare financial package but what if I don’t get into any of the schools I really want to because I applied EA and RD
This video was so helpful. I was pretty set on applying to NYU ED- this confirmed that it's probably a good move. Thank you!
bro did you get in?
READ THE BLOG! GET MORE DATA, including SCEA/REA school data!! supertutortv.com/college/best-kept-secret-in-college-admission-rates/
6:30 Notre Dame is Early Action (not Decision), no?
I think the ED numbers are completely skewed not only by legacies and athletes but also targeted URM, low income and 1st generation students. A lot of Top schools will do Flyover programs so if those kids apply, they will probably get accepted.
Bottom line: If you are a normal student without a hook (athlete, legacy,. URM , low income), your chances are probably almost identical between ED and RD - maybe a couple of % higher - not 20-30%
From working as an independent consultant-- 50% of my students* who applied ED/REA/EA to their top choice school (or regular if to a UC as top choice) got in-- second round the drop off was STEEP last year. Things are changing and I'm seeing huge advantage early right now with the cohort I work with (typically not URM/low income, typically NOT athlete, legacies excluded I get those sometimes but didn't have many last year-- but may have great activities, incredible accomplishments, amazing recs and always strong stats) (*24/36 of my students elected to respond to our annual survey, majority of those who didn't respond did ~1-2 lessons only vs more)
me watching this video after skipping early action deadlines
the new intro is awesome!
This is a very informative and insightful video.
My parents told me I can't go ED and had to apply REA, this makes me sad to see that if I could have chosen an ED school like Brown I actually would have had a better chance
Brown is need blind.
Nyu rate is so high also beacause they have 2 early decision right?
Brook, for schools like uChicago, is ED1 significantly more beneficial than ED2? Thanks!
I would say somewhat more not significantly- but Ed matters so much to uchicago
When I went on a tour there they said that they take about 25% from each pool. Considering that the pool sizes are smaller for ED you have a better chance. Take this with a grain of salt bc when they gave their info section idk if they gave the harsh reality
Dartmouth counts athletes in ED too so it’s really 10 percent.
I got rejected from nyu Ed 1 lol, I’m stupid tho
What happened to Johns Hopkins? Their ED rates go up significantly as well.
I want to go to one of these top schools! I have gotten almost all A’s with A-‘s and B+, B, and B-. Sophomore year tanked my gpa as I got the B-grades. Other than that I have gotten straight A’s. I have been taken Honors/AP and have great EC’s.
Where is it best to ED to have a decent shot of getting in.
Thanks, Brooke for the informative video, but that leads me to ask is EA not as effective compared to ED?
Typically it isn’t - but there is usually a small bump w a few exceptions (notably MIT and Georgetown have less of a bump)
Also can you post the full list?
Hey Brooke, I plan on applying ED to either UPenn or Dartmouth and I’m conflicted I love both schools but UPenn is closer to home (but it also has a lower acceptance rate for ED applicants and tends to prioritize student athletes in the ED round) any advice
Being closer to UPenn might hurt your chances. If you have geographic diversity for Dartmouth I’d go with that, unless you really love UPenn.
If you love to be in greek life then go to dartmouth. If not then apply to upenn.
Hey Brooke, do you check college application essays?
supertutortv.com/tutoring
how does REA stack up like with Princeton and Harvard?
is that early decision for firt year students?
Does ED / EA have waitlists?
Hey Brooke, do you think applying to Duke early decision is a good idea if I am a first generation international student since Duke seems really into demonstrated interest?
Also, thanks a lot for the video!
First generation student means none of your parents graduated from any colleges at all. Correct?
Hello Brooke!
I’m thinking about applying Ed to NYU but I still wanna apply to other top colleges like Princeton. However, I wanna secure a spot at NYU in case I don’t get into the other top colleges-though I might choose not to go there if they do not provide me with enough financial aid-Should I apply ED? And let’s say I got in and they offered me a decent aid package, am I allowed to reject it even if I can afford going there after the aid?
That's crazy I'm in the exact same position with NYU as well. I was originally going to apply early decision there, but I decided not to.
based off of your description, ED isn't for you
NYU notoriously gaps people on aid. Their aid sucks. You can reject it if you can't afford it but you get to decide the line you can afford. Just don't go to a more $$$ school after that if you turn it down. But if you ED you should be prepared to go to NYU and not go to Princeton. You'll need to tell them what your negotiation line is with aid and they may not tell you immediately what they can do for you. I had a student at an Ivy request more aid and it didn't come through until early March.
What are your thoughts on transfers to NYU or top schools like that. We can’t apply through an ED/EA process so how much do our chances drop from there?
transfers should watch my transfer videos-- search under supertutortv for transfer
It’s better, I applied there Ed 1 and got rejected (I’m dumb tho) but transfer acceptance rate is 25% good luck tho
@@AliAli-jv5sp hey haha I got accepted for this spring. Absolutely loving it so far here at NYU. Happy to be at my dream school
@@adamhamza2028 oh nice, I hope to see you in a year.
I remember you saying in one of your previous videos that ND wants to see a test score. I was thinking if you wanna go to ND and don’t have a test score your only real option is REA, correct? Also you referred to ND as having ED but they have REA I was just a little confused I am assuming that all their stats were for REA
I applied early to SupertutorTV.
Does this data apply to MSs? Or it considers only Bachelors stats?
Great video! I didn’t see Yale or Stanford (the 2 schools my daughter is considering for EA). Can I assume there’s not much advantage for EA at either school? Do you have EA stats for either school? Thanks!
Yale should be on the blog chart did you check that? Stanford doesn't release data but IMO there is an advantage to early. At least from my students that I work w/. Particularly when a school sends multiple students SCEA it leaves little room for great candidates RD who didn't get in at Harvard etc. even if they were stronger candidates than the ones already admitted. supertutortv.com/college/best-kept-secret-in-college-admission-rates/
Thanks Brooke! Do you know if Stanford has a legacy advantage (and if so, whether it matter if you apply there EA vs RD)?
@@joek8237 Stanford doesn't.
Hi brooke :) love ur vids. A question: where did u get that data for ed?
common data set
@@chensally7770 Yep
@@chensally7770 @supertutortv The CDS for ND shows about 50% ED to enrolled rate. Can you recheck?
Is it a good idea to apply for one of HYPS in an early admission round with a super high score of SAT and just a moderate-high GPA?
Probably not unless you have WOW factor level activities. Usually UChicago is a better fit for a profile like this.
what about ed1 to northeastern university? id really want to go there as it’s my top choice but their ed acceptance rates fluctuated last year due to a higher concentration of applicants
It was actually ~40% acceptance rate this year for class of 2027
Hi
Can a prospective student from Africa apply for FINANCIAL AID?
Brooke, I remember that you did a video referencing applying ED to the Ivies may not be a good strategy if you are not a legacy as they are advised to apply ED and that could be a big pool of applicants. Does the ED% account for all of the legacies, i.e. Yale’s ED Pool%. Thank you and love your informational videos!!
This video is a little misleading. In addition to legacy, you got donor’s and All recruited athletes applying ED.
Right these stats over represent the advantage at about top five or top ten schools (at HYPS for ex) That was my point in the other video. There is still an advantage conferred though I would say even without athletics or legacy at least from what I’ve been seeing post Covid. This is the first cycle of data that we’ve had post Covid so I am shifting on my advice on this point given that data. We’ve not seen early numbers this high in the past I think “. I also had a couple kids get in regular who did SCEA last year and I think that extra knowledge that a college is the students first choice helps. Below the top ten or so these stats underrepresent the early advantage IMO
What would qualify as a crazy high SAT score?
Hello Brooke, Hi Brooke, is applying to early action to uchicago much more advantageous than applying regular or if we want a real high chance, should we apply early decision?
apply early in any case if you can. UChicago really loves yield and Early is how they get that.
Please talk about international student. I’m a student in Hong Kong and I wanna get into an Ivy League school, but we don’t have ap courses here in Hong Kong, what can I do?
Self study AP tests or take local college courses.
@@danielm17 thanks for the info, also how many should I take
@@natalia8020 Minimum 8 for Ivys
Brook, I’m thinking about applying to Duke ED but don’t know if my family can afford it. Since it is a need-blind college, does that change how I can get out of the binding agreement?
Need blind means they won’t see if you can pay full tuition or not when they read your application. It is beneficial to students who need financial aid. ED is a good idea but I would try to email or dm duke students and ask how they’re financial aid is
Brook, Do u you know about Mit rates
MIT doesn’t have ED1. It has early action.
Not huge advantage applying early at MIT -- it's EA non binding and MIT is a no BS kind of place
Yoooooo, Norte Dame
Actually: Be born into the elite.
Isn’t Early decision binding?
Yes with the exception of aid that isn’t enough
Hey brooke, I want to know something, please response. I'm an international student, my stats, extracurriculars are pretty good and I'm thinking of applying to Bowdoin ED. They says in their website that thay are need blind for all students from this year, but in their youtube channel, they says, their admission policy is need based. As I'm gonna need a 'crazy' aid, should I apply to bowodin ED?
Hello!! A student was born in USA can apply to universities like first generation when his parents got a bachelor of the other country? Thanks.
No more Admission of Raise is out.