The Wizard of Fix-It. You deserve an honorary degree in Economics and Engineering. And don't forget Education. You break everything down so perfectly for understanding. Thanks again.
Cans used to be filled with "freon" as the propellant for decades. Then it was deemed a greenhouse gas right when the patent ran out. Now propane(fyi an excellent refrigerant r290) though flammable is dirt cheap and readily available.
Cool explanation on the propane! My son noticed that my Gillette shaving cream on the bathroom shelf had propane listed on the ingredients list and he asked me why. Lol, I told him I had no clue, but now I will be able to tell him it's the propellent! Learn something new every day! 👍
Did you have a dad that passed on all this knowledge to you? A video about how you came to know all these different bits would be great. Many thanks again for taking time to share!
@@sixtyfiveford A collective thanks from ALL of us, Moe! 🙏 You teach us things they SHOULD school us on in the institutions of “learning,” but instead we sit in classrooms bored & graduate unprepared for life. 🫤 For us lifelong learners, you are a GEM-even more, as no value can be placed on all of this practical knowledge. 💎 💕 I also love that your videos get STRAIGHT to the point-you prove that they needn’t be long to pack in tons of info. 👏 👌
I do the same with the Schrader valve from an old inner tube. Different tubers have different holes in the bottom. Each seems to fit different cans better or worse. I have also found that simple pressure from an air hose will overcome the can's valve and you can fill it without depressing the valve. The DISadvantage with air is that it will begin the drying process in the can's contents - especially paints.
With a rattle can of paint or lube costing ten dollars and up I want every drop out of that can. Never knew about the propane propellant.great tip again Mr Moe .
It's insane what a can of paint is costing these days. That's how I ended up with these. I was looking for cans of spray paint and ended up with just shy of 150 cans(25 paint) of random chemicals.
While I'm a cheapskate of the first order, after spraying chemicals and paint all over myself, my tool boxes and the walls multiple times trying to refill them (yea, I'm a slob) I picked up a few of the steel refillable spray bottles. Harbor Freight has them and they can often be found on facebook marketplace for stupid cheap. They've got a fill plug, a threaded nozzle and a schrader valve. One of them will hold something like 4 normal cans of primer or WD-40.
Wouldnt ya know ,i knocked the brand new can of carb cleaner offbthe wirk bench and broke the tip off that sticks out of the can. So i just emptied the pressure , knocked a hole in it and threw it in one of those reusable jobs. Worked fine ,im kinda surprised it still lives , sometimes those things dont like harsh chemicals.
Thanks for three video! Never knew about the Propane thing, very cool how that works. How you know all this, truly amazes me. And of course Ginger did great too!
Great video, It was good the way you explained the difference between air and propane. Also, the reason why the propane leaks out but not the contents. Plus, we got to see sweet Ginger twice.❤
Always enjoy your shares!! You’ve got quite a few to do there!! It occurred to me a modified soda can crusher could work to press the shrader valve onto the can 😁 hope that helps👍
@@onlythetruth883 Yes it is flammable. I use it for my grill. But from watching this video it looks like it is used as a propellent. Before trying anything you see on line research it thoroughly. Stay safe, Joe Z
Love your videos! When you were showing how the propellant escapes from the common can, you got me wondering: should we be storing our cans upside down so the propellant cannot leak out?
Store it right side up and the ball check valve is exposed to the propellant. Store it upside down and the pickup tube is exposed to the propellant. I think it would probably leak out faster that way. But who knows unless it's been tested. Good subject for Project Farm !!
-- Here's my take on this... I've always stored paint cans (or any other spray type of can with a material in it which would clog) upside down. You first turn it upside down and depress the nozzle to clear the pickup tube and nozzle of the material inside of the can. Then I pop the cap back on and store it upside down in a can rack I constructed. Yes, you've got to remember to always hold the can upside down and never turn it back over lest some of the material inside the can leak back into the pickup tube and end up at the nozzle. As for pressure loss, I've never had issues with a can going flat nor have I had issues with clogs since I cleared the pickup tube and nozzle before storage which originally was the whole point - I was never actually concerned with leakage. I cannot say whether I've just been blessed or not but flat cans have never been a problem for me. I should note however that I also store my spray cans in more of a climate controlled environment so there's no expansion or contraction as it gets hot or cold outside. That too may have something to do with it. Anyway, my best advice is to try out my method and see if it works for you as you've got nothing to lose. Best wishes! - Max Giganteum
Good question, I store my in use cans upside down. As I figure I’m less likely to get sediment of clogs in the tube. Seems to work but I have no science to back it up.
First, Spray paints don't have this little check ball. They're just a straight tube to the bottom. Seams like everything else though has this check ball. In theory storing those cans upside down would help. The check ball would allow fluid to fill the tube partially. The thicker fluid vs the gas would be less likely to escape.
@@sixtyfiveford Thank you for taking the time to reply! I'm nearly finished making my paint can shaker. I've been trying to come up with a clever way to turn the threaded rod into a hex shape(properly chuckable). I found some hex tubing online that's threaded on the inside, could be cool.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼…………………………………………………………………………..You are a fountain of handy man knowledge! You add just the right amount of filler before “ The Ginger Show “, although we didn’t get much of “ The Ginger Show “ today, but it’s ok, I learned that I don’t have to poke a hole in old aerosol cans and dump the contents in a spray bottle! LOL
How do you know EVERYTHING? I was totally blown away on your vid that let me know where I left my keys last week, and the one explaining why my wife was pissed at me
Interesting video. I wonder if there's a way to make a tool to make it easier. Like a U-frame that the can goes in, and the tire valve or custom fitting gets tightened down with bolts on either side. Then no hands would be needed to hold the top on while filling. Harbor Freight has a nice refillable pressurized spray can that can spray as a stream or a spray, but it's $40 which is not that cheap,
man, I just this week finally got around to making the paint can spinner thingy for my drill, it'll be years before I collect all the pieces to put this together ;). Cool idea Moe.
Rig up the rubber tip air nozzle for propane with your gauge. Seemed to work better than the shrader. I gotta sure-shot, but they not cheap and I’ve lost spray nozzle for it. Comes out like morning piss!
I was converting a propane tank to a portable air tank. I couldn't get any air out. So I took out the valve and found that it had a dip tube and ball check in it. Over a certain cfm the ball would float up and seal off the flow. Im surprised you got any propane out of it upside down.
I remenber when the original schrader valve on the aerosol can video came out. Where did the time go? I've been finding even new WD40 aerosols are running out of gas long before the product runs out. At around the half way point the product starts to dribble out the end of the straw like an old man with a prostate problem.
@@yurishnirman3847 Yes nicer fittings but that's butane. The problem with butane is it's liquid pressure is only around 16psi at 70° F where propane is around 110psi.
I once cut open a damaged paint spray can so I could use the paint with a brush. I ripped the paint into a jar and the paint fizzed and bubbled. I suppose this was the propane off gassing
I am going to take an old c clamp and some wood or scrap metal and make a spray can filler clamp. It will hold everything in alignment and allow me to fill as needed without having to hand hold it all in place.
@@2LateIWon I'm excited. Just shy of 150 cans for $20 and 1.5hrs of driving. That's a win in my book. The only cans that were flat were 6 battery cleaner ones.
Every WD40 can I’ve ever had goes flat. I always cut the cans open and dump the fluid into a mason jar and use a brush, but then you gotta buy a new can so you have the spray version too.
I bought the WD-40 spray applicator bottle years ago for about $3.00. It has the sprayer and a cap to unscrew to refill and to dip a brush in. My cost by buying the one gallon of WD-40 is a big savings.
They use propane at the aerosol factory most of the time.... Very flammable. Be careful. There are good reasons why the "gassing house" at an aerosol plant is a dangerous place, full of expensive spark detection, fire suppression, and all kinds of other stuff..... Propane is heavier than air, so it's gonna want to fill your shop space from the bottom up, like a pool... Proper ventilation is key.... For the "normal" products you are using, 85 psi ballpark is what you want.... That top part you cut off is called the valve... They are filled through the valve at the factory, with the proper sizes small cylindrical tube.... The o-ring inside the valve will make the seal.... If you have that many to charge, you probably want to try to get the right thing.... It'll make it easier...
I've broken a few amount of those off as well. I have plastic welded a few ( I have a video on plastic welding). Probably the best. Was using a scrap of thin plastic from an old oil bottle laying that over and spot plastic welding it. So the oil bottle plastic is the hinge itself now.
Didn't you figure out a way to use an inline container, (Inline with the air line), to refill the contents of a can, while refilling the air? (No need to alter the can itself.)
Probably. However, you have to push down so hard to create a seal and to press the lever from the top; it would be impossible with this method to do it upside down.
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Fire extinguisher's use nitrogen as a propellant. Non-combustable and no moisture to foul up the propellant inside the canister before use. However, canister should be shaken top to bottom atleast once a month to prevent fire retardent material from settling and forming a hardened dome on the material inside. That may cause failure to dispense when extinguisher is used. It's rare, but can happen.
@@robertmcmahon2744 If you follow farmcraft101 you will also know that dirt daubers or wth you call them, can clog them up. Good practice is to wack the extinguisher against the ground as a precaution before use. That way, you will shake any hardened powder loose. Testing it briefly before approaching the fire is also a good idea.
The Wizard of Fix-It. You deserve an honorary degree in Economics and Engineering. And don't forget Education. You break everything down so perfectly for understanding. Thanks again.
Hey Thanks
Man I really appreciate your ingenuity and your methods for solving these kinds of problems in low cost ways.
Straight to the point; I clicked because I wondered what the advantage to using propane would be, and you explained it right away!
Isn't propane flammable?
@@onlythetruth883That's what the producer puts in the aerosol cans. He explained it in the video
@@Frank-Thoresen
Yeah. But it must have other even more important use why he even has it in the first place.
Cans used to be filled with "freon" as the propellant for decades. Then it was deemed a greenhouse gas right when the patent ran out. Now propane(fyi an excellent refrigerant r290) though flammable is dirt cheap and readily available.
Done this with some canned paint , because i didnt have any argon to try and figured almost anything else besides air in the can would help.
The little check ball in the can pickup tube is the spray upside down feature. Always love when you post. Thanks
Cool explanation on the propane! My son noticed that my Gillette shaving cream on the bathroom shelf had propane listed on the ingredients list and he asked me why. Lol, I told him I had no clue, but now I will be able to tell him it's the propellent! Learn something new every day! 👍
Did you have a dad that passed on all this knowledge to you? A video about how you came to know all these different bits would be great. Many thanks again for taking time to share!
Yes!! 💯
My father was far from a teacher of these things. I think it's just growing up dirt poor made me frugal and resourceful.
@@sixtyfiveford Thanks very much for the reply!
@@sixtyfiveford A collective thanks from ALL of us, Moe! 🙏 You teach us things they SHOULD school us on in the institutions of “learning,” but instead we sit in classrooms bored & graduate unprepared for life. 🫤
For us lifelong learners, you are a GEM-even more, as no value can be placed on all of this practical knowledge. 💎 💕
I also love that your videos get STRAIGHT to the point-you prove that they needn’t be long to pack in tons of info. 👏 👌
I would like to know too I try to learn as much as I can from you but in the end somebody has to teach you this
I do the same with the Schrader valve from an old inner tube. Different tubers have different holes in the bottom. Each seems to fit different cans better or worse. I have also found that simple pressure from an air hose will overcome the can's valve and you can fill it without depressing the valve. The DISadvantage with air is that it will begin the drying process in the can's contents - especially paints.
Love the King of the Hill reference!
Great video to wake up to considering my plans for today is to work/organize my shop.
With a rattle can of paint or lube costing ten dollars and up I want every drop out of that can. Never knew about the propane propellant.great tip again Mr Moe .
It's insane what a can of paint is costing these days. That's how I ended up with these. I was looking for cans of spray paint and ended up with just shy of 150 cans(25 paint) of random chemicals.
Well made video you helped me to understand the why so that I can troubleshoot
While I'm a cheapskate of the first order, after spraying chemicals and paint all over myself, my tool boxes and the walls multiple times trying to refill them (yea, I'm a slob) I picked up a few of the steel refillable spray bottles. Harbor Freight has them and they can often be found on facebook marketplace for stupid cheap. They've got a fill plug, a threaded nozzle and a schrader valve. One of them will hold something like 4 normal cans of primer or WD-40.
Wouldnt ya know ,i knocked the brand new can of carb cleaner offbthe wirk bench and broke the tip off that sticks out of the can.
So i just emptied the pressure , knocked a hole in it and threw it in one of those reusable jobs.
Worked fine ,im kinda surprised it still lives , sometimes those things dont like harsh chemicals.
That's exactly why I made refillable aerosol cans.
Yup poke a hole and drain it in my sure-shot.
Thanks for three video! Never knew about the Propane thing, very cool how that works. How you know all this, truly amazes me. And of course Ginger did great too!
Great video, It was good the way you explained the difference between air and propane. Also, the reason why the propane leaks out but not the contents. Plus, we got to see sweet Ginger twice.❤
Always enjoy your shares!! You’ve got quite a few to do there!! It occurred to me a modified soda can crusher could work to press the shrader valve onto the can 😁 hope that helps👍
Actually only 6 were low on pressure. Kind of surprising.
I didn’t know about using propane, awesome thanks
I never thought of using propane. Good demonstrating and explanation
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Stay well, Joe Z
JOE
What is propane normally used for?
Isn't it flammable?
@@onlythetruth883 Yes it is flammable. I use it for my grill. But from watching this video it looks like it is used as a propellent. Before trying anything you see on line research it thoroughly.
Stay safe, Joe Z
Nice one Moe!! As always, a pleasure to learn new tricks! Hope all is well with you and yours! Cheers! Zip~
@@ZippoVarga Thanks. Hope you're doing well and elbow deep in small engine work.
Thanks. Great video describing the problem and multiple solutions.
Always keep both feet on the wheel. Safety Third! HAHA
Great video once again. This will come in handy for sure.
Freeway fetch ftw!
Thanks for sharing!
It's always a good time
Love your videos! When you were showing how the propellant escapes from the common can, you got me wondering: should we be storing our cans upside down so the propellant cannot leak out?
Store it right side up and the ball check valve is exposed to the propellant. Store it upside down and the pickup tube is exposed to the propellant. I think it would probably leak out faster that way. But who knows unless it's been tested. Good subject for Project Farm !!
-- Here's my take on this... I've always stored paint cans (or any other spray type of can with a material in it which would clog) upside down. You first turn it upside down and depress the nozzle to clear the pickup tube and nozzle of the material inside of the can. Then I pop the cap back on and store it upside down in a can rack I constructed. Yes, you've got to remember to always hold the can upside down and never turn it back over lest some of the material inside the can leak back into the pickup tube and end up at the nozzle. As for pressure loss, I've never had issues with a can going flat nor have I had issues with clogs since I cleared the pickup tube and nozzle before storage which originally was the whole point - I was never actually concerned with leakage. I cannot say whether I've just been blessed or not but flat cans have never been a problem for me. I should note however that I also store my spray cans in more of a climate controlled environment so there's no expansion or contraction as it gets hot or cold outside. That too may have something to do with it. Anyway, my best advice is to try out my method and see if it works for you as you've got nothing to lose. Best wishes!
- Max Giganteum
Good question, I store my in use cans upside down. As I figure I’m less likely to get sediment of clogs in the tube. Seems to work but I have no science to back it up.
First, Spray paints don't have this little check ball. They're just a straight tube to the bottom. Seams like everything else though has this check ball. In theory storing those cans upside down would help. The check ball would allow fluid to fill the tube partially. The thicker fluid vs the gas would be less likely to escape.
@@sixtyfiveford Thank you for taking the time to reply! I'm nearly finished making my paint can shaker. I've been trying to come up with a clever way to turn the threaded rod into a hex shape(properly chuckable). I found some hex tubing online that's threaded on the inside, could be cool.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼…………………………………………………………………………..You are a fountain of handy man knowledge! You add just the right amount of filler before “ The Ginger Show “, although we didn’t get much of “ The Ginger Show “ today, but it’s ok, I learned that I don’t have to poke a hole in old aerosol cans and dump the contents in a spray bottle! LOL
How do you know EVERYTHING? I was totally blown away on your vid that let me know where I left my keys last week, and the one explaining why my wife was pissed at me
Interesting video. I wonder if there's a way to make a tool to make it easier. Like a U-frame that the can goes in, and the tire valve or custom fitting gets tightened down with bolts on either side. Then no hands would be needed to hold the top on while filling. Harbor Freight has a nice refillable pressurized spray can that can spray as a stream or a spray, but it's $40 which is not that cheap,
man, I just this week finally got around to making the paint can spinner thingy for my drill, it'll be years before I collect all the pieces to put this together ;). Cool idea Moe.
That is awesome!
Thanks for sharing !
Good info. Thanks!
Ginger rulz!
Thanks for watching!
Great video (as always!). Have any ideas how to rescue a can with a broken off male top?
I wish I did. I've tried a few things and nothing works. Now I just pour it into my refillable aerosol and go from there.
Great video! Safety first
Rig up the rubber tip air nozzle for propane with your gauge. Seemed to work better than the shrader. I gotta sure-shot, but they not cheap and I’ve lost spray nozzle for it. Comes out like morning piss!
You wont run out of whatever in those cans for awhile, good ways to get the most out of them
Awesome explanation thank you!
great info, yet again
Thanks again!
As always an awesome tip brother thanks and take care.
Thanks 👍
LP vapor pressure is 190psi @100F, so take precautions.
haha Propane and propane accessories! Very cool
Thanks for another informative video!
Good stuff You never disappoint.
I was converting a propane tank to a portable air tank. I couldn't get any air out. So I took out the valve and found that it had a dip tube and ball check in it. Over a certain cfm the ball would float up and seal off the flow. Im surprised you got any propane out of it upside down.
I forgot to mention this in a video; The POL internal valve I used bypasses all the safeties on the tank
I remenber when the original schrader valve on the aerosol can video came out. Where did the time go? I've been finding even new WD40 aerosols are running out of gas long before the product runs out. At around the half way point the product starts to dribble out the end of the straw like an old man with a prostate problem.
The propane lighter refiller has nicer fittings that will work well on aerosol cans. Maybe can use some of them to make an adapter as well?
@@yurishnirman3847 Yes nicer fittings but that's butane. The problem with butane is it's liquid pressure is only around 16psi at 70° F where propane is around 110psi.
@@sixtyfiveford True, butane is lower pressure. at 70F charts say its 50psi.
I had no idea Propane was in those cans,
I once cut open a damaged paint spray can so I could use the paint with a brush. I ripped the paint into a jar and the paint fizzed and bubbled. I suppose this was the propane off gassing
Exactly
Thanks for this video🎉🎉🎉
I'm curious where you got all those cans. Did a local store close?
It was actually a local city maintenance dept.
Time to build a nice fill station just for filling the cans.
I always repressurise my fire extinguishers with it.
Um…
As the propane freezes coming out from the extinguisher, it freezes the fire. Good plan
@@staind288 It was a joke.
@@UQRXD mine wasn't. It's science 😁
Hysterically Sarcastic!
I'm sure that's both CARB & NFSC approved. Please video & post - I promise to nominate you for a Dawrin Award
I am going to take an old c clamp and some wood or scrap metal and make a spray can filler clamp. It will hold everything in alignment and allow me to fill as needed without having to hand hold it all in place.
“Hank hill” would be proud 😂
What a great deal you got
@@2LateIWon I'm excited. Just shy of 150 cans for $20 and 1.5hrs of driving. That's a win in my book. The only cans that were flat were 6 battery cleaner ones.
@@sixtyfiveford that's awesome
Every WD40 can I’ve ever had goes flat. I always cut the cans open and dump the fluid into a mason jar and use a brush, but then you gotta buy a new can so you have the spray version too.
EVERY DAMN CAN! MADDENING! THEY HAVE TO REALIZE THIS.
-- That's the universe's way of telling you to not buy WD-40! 😁
- Max Giganteum
@@MaxGiganteum That’s probably true. It’s not exactly a bargain brand.
I bought the WD-40 spray applicator bottle years ago for about $3.00. It has the sprayer and a cap to unscrew to refill and to dip a brush in. My cost by buying the one gallon of WD-40 is a big savings.
@@donho3617 Good move!
I came here to see Ginger..👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
great
Last time you said compressed air though 😳
"Both feet on the wheel" 😎 🤣😂🤣
Hello, are you interested in disassembling lithium batteries?
They use propane at the aerosol factory most of the time.... Very flammable. Be careful. There are good reasons why the "gassing house" at an aerosol plant is a dangerous place, full of expensive spark detection, fire suppression, and all kinds of other stuff..... Propane is heavier than air, so it's gonna want to fill your shop space from the bottom up, like a pool... Proper ventilation is key....
For the "normal" products you are using, 85 psi ballpark is what you want....
That top part you cut off is called the valve... They are filled through the valve at the factory, with the proper sizes small cylindrical tube.... The o-ring inside the valve will make the seal....
If you have that many to charge, you probably want to try to get the right thing.... It'll make it easier...
Next time, Moe, let Ginger drive on the freeway so you can jump out to pick up good stuff. 🐕
Great idea!
Very Nice Tips !!!!!~~~~~~~
👍👍👍. Thanks
How can we repair the plastic snap latches on toolboxes? The hinge is just plastic so bends to open and broke off.
I've broken a few amount of those off as well. I have plastic welded a few ( I have a video on plastic welding). Probably the best. Was using a scrap of thin plastic from an old oil bottle laying that over and spot plastic welding it. So the oil bottle plastic is the hinge itself now.
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:) Keep both feet on the wheel.👍
Didn't you figure out a way to use an inline container, (Inline with the air line), to refill the contents of a can, while refilling the air? (No need to alter the can itself.)
venturi effect
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Isn't it better to flip the cans upside down when you fill it? Then the liquid stays in the can.
Probably. However, you have to push down so hard to create a seal and to press the lever from the top; it would be impossible with this method to do it upside down.
@@sixtyfiveford You can build a jig to hold it.. 😅 Can refiller 2000! 👍
You’re gonna need a bigger place
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Will that not over pressure the can if it's gaseous and not a liquid? Or am I a dumb dumb
MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER.❤ THAT'S WHY MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS CALL ME MARKGYVER.
I tried this, and I refilled my portable Extinguisher, now my hair is gone, and my house burned down. :(
Hair grows back and a house is easily replaced with a tent. Sounds like you're good to go.
@@sixtyfiveford That's the correct attitude :P
Fire extinguisher's use nitrogen as a propellant. Non-combustable and no moisture to foul up the propellant inside the canister before use. However, canister should be shaken top to bottom atleast once a month to prevent fire retardent material from settling and forming a hardened dome on the material inside. That may cause failure to dispense when extinguisher is used. It's rare, but can happen.
@@robertmcmahon2744 If you follow farmcraft101 you will also know that dirt daubers or wth you call them, can clog them up. Good practice is to wack the extinguisher against the ground as a precaution before use. That way, you will shake any hardened powder loose. Testing it briefly before approaching the fire is also a good idea.
YMMV
So, now i can inhale the nitrous oxide from moms whip cream canisters and charge them up again with propane, and no one will be the wiser!
I sure hope you don't have any kind of source of ignition in your shop. 💥🚒🚑🦽