Always look forward to your bite sized reviews, tips and tricks etc, particularly because you know what kind of stuff the dj community like to know, and how excited we get about things. As a Prime 4, MCX800O, and XDJ XZ, owner, I can’t justify buying the SC, as much as I like the inbuilt speaker concept. It was an oversight of the prime 4 not to have an Aux input; even the XDJ has it, and for us mobile guys, it has its use (plus not sacrificing one of the line channels).
Steve I like how the SC4 has that Pioneer 900NXS layout style. When the Prime 4’s layout is different. So if I had to do a gig with a NXS mixer than it would be so bad.
Great video comparison. I already purchased the Prime 4 but it's in backorder. Ironically, I might get the Live 4 instead. Just simply because the of the simplicity & design of the layout & the weight of it.
What did you go for and was it good? I’m torn between the two. Here’s what I like from both device Sc live 4 1 standard layout like pioneer 2Built in speaker (can’t annoy others) 3 £1000 4 song info on jog wheel Prime 4 plus 1 can plug in turntables or cd’j 2stems 3metal face plate If I buy sc live 4 at £1000 I can play right out of box. If I buy prime 4 plus at £2000 I still have to buy around 50w speakers and Amp. I just don’t want to be unhappy with what I go with.
Did you mention beatport link because this controller is optimized for beatport link? Or were you just simply sharing your experience? Thanks in advance !
found an sc 4 for 950, I was about to get a prime 4 for 1700. I think for money sc 4 is good value for a at home dj hobbiest. Prime 4 is insane though ngl, I had one for a moment but returned it since one channel wasnt working and it was missing the crossfader assembly
great - great review you answered a lot of things i had doubts about sc 4. thank you so much!sc live 4 really would be great if it was compatible with traktor, Denon really needs to think about it, it will have a lot more sales because there is no stand alone unit that is compatible with traktor. it is a big gap in the market that someone needs to take advantage of .
@@primaledge2916 yes I know that,but i like to play & mix in 4 decks,so the screen is very tiny for this.engine is a wonderful and simple software, it's such a shame that you can't work sc 4 and the engine with a laptop .. like serato etc.. sorry my english is not good i hope it makes sense.
@@spirosbulk It makes sense, and your English is good :) I agree that the screen is a bit small for 4 decks, but I'm sure with some time you could get used to it. I went for a Prime 4 about a year ago, and the 10 inch screen is about perfect in my opinion, plus it is adjustable which is really good. Personally, I just struggle to understand why people would want to plug a laptop into a stand alone system - are there no 4 channel controllers that you could use instead? I'm sure that would be a much more affordable solution.
@@primaledge2916do you own prime 4 or plus? If so, am I right in thinking the main effects are near crossfader? So don’t have to reach out near back of device near screen?
Awesome video - very helpful! I have a question - how do you sync your TR8 in the background ? Im new in this space and I am surprised not to see DIN Midi outputs on ANY of those controllers/standalones.... Massive thanks in advance!
No Ethernet port sadly AND no Aux-Cue/Pfl, but maybe they can add the second as software update? Thanks for this good video!! I totally agree about the speakers, lighter to carry around and price (1300€ here vs 2400€ P4)
@@djmartinsk Woah, wait. Really? So you have phone playing in the Aux, not turned up the Volume Knob yet (only the little LED is showing the signla) but you can hear it in the Cue? You tried it? That would be AWESOME
Hey dude, always informative, so basically I have a prime 4 and the go and I always get nervous when something new comes out and start to think is my p4 dated now? So what you’re saying is that apart from Amazon streaming and on board speakers, P4 still the king?
@@TheDJLabah, thanks. Man, I’ve wanted to get back into dj’ing for ages after 10 year break. In your honest opinion, is the sc live 4 really good for actual DEEP mixing? The effects and pads are really cool and I think I’ll like them but I’m an old school dj with technic 1210’s. Can I really ride the mix on sc live 4, just as well as I did on my turntables? Mi know this may feel different but part of me thinks it won’t feel fun to mix on. Like may feel like going back to belt drive turntables that I learned to mix on. Part of me thinks this sc live 4 may not be great for long mixes and is more for beginners or for those djs that do all the effects and beat pads etc but not much actual mixing. I’ve watched so many videos of people dj’ing on sc live 4 and they never touch the pitch and when they do it’s only a little. I think some are using the sync function. Again, is it horrible experience mixing properly on this device ? And that’s why they have the Sync function? If the prime 4 plus had club layout, I’d deff buy it but it costs twice the price of sc live 4 and without club layout, I’m unsure if I’ll like it. Mainly because the effects are at back of unit. Then again, I see the sweep effects on prime 4 plus, near Crossfader and part of me thinks that those 4 effects are possibly the main ones most use and if so, I’d be happy enough with prime 4 plus and it would be nice to have stems in future and to plug in turntables. With all that said, I like the idea of £1000 for sc live 4 over £2000 for prime 4 plus And if I buy sc live and I love it, I could always buy prime 4 plus or the pioneer equivalent, in the future. Sorry for all the info but long story short. Do you recommend the sc live 4 at £1000 ? If you really can do perfect manual mixes without sync feature, ? Thanks I’m advance.
Not really. Prime 4 plus has stems and you can plug in turntables and cd’j . You can’t do that on sc live 4 and that’s a big deal. Being able to plug in turntables, means you can mix vinyl and digital at same time and you can have the fun of jog wheels and turntables in 1 device.
I have a Prime 4. Also I'm pretty aware of what it can do. Both are 4 channel controllers by Denon is my point. The features are probably about 90% comparable. I have 1200's also; which are hooked up to a knob fader set up.
@@ApexNYC it actually aged fine. I stated a fact that was true at the time. I think you don’t have an understanding of the phrase, you just used. I recommend to not use it again, if you don’t have an understanding of the meaning. And for your information, the Denon brand is shit and so is the sc live 4 and any other denon product. Cheap nasty and horrible to mix with.
if SC live 4 had: 1) 10" touch screen 2) to work with Traktor.. for me it would be a dream unit. it just lacks those two for my tastes. at this price it is incredibly affordable, the best value for money! please Denon do something to make this unit work with traktor.
Traktor or any other software compatibility is not Denon problem. Compatibility with any Dj software, is not decided by denon dj development team. Your question must be addressed to NI. Not to Denon DJ guys.
Im used to the 7 inch screen from my Prime Go but i hear you if it had a 10 inch screen I would have not even considered buying the Prime 4. Ultimately i went with SC 4 Live because i could get one right away and i scored a deal under $1200. Im happy 100%
As an ex Prime 4 owner, think Denon have had their day, prime 4 looks nice but seriously lacking on the quality and substance of the sound output, and overall build quality. That metal body means nothing when the buttons and faders are cheap, clunky and noisy
It's always going to be a deal breaker for me with the small jog wheels, not interested in these devices because of that.. on a budget? get a flx6 or flx6-gt for the full size jog wheels
OMG... How can you compare SC Live 4 and FLX? :D :D FLX Only software (MIDI) Controller! SC Live 4 is FULL Standalone audio DJ system (Not computer required). SC Live 4/2 have computer built in. SC Live has perfectly tuned internal CPU processing, Tuned Linux OS as the platform on which the Engine OS works. FLX6 can not do absolutely nothing that SC Live 4 can do (without computer). Not to mention the sound quality. Especially mic preamp quality. FLX and SC live are incomparable products. FLX is a completely different technical category of DJ equipment. I don't need a full size jog, if im not a scratch DJ. For speeding up and slowing down the song using the jog wheel, a 4-inch jog wheel is also completely sufficient. (SCLive have 6-inch Jog). Good for scratching also.
@@jar5520 I didn't mean to change your mind, I didn't mean to... There is no need to generalize your personal opinion and preferences. In your comment, there is a generalization of the need to have a large jog wheel. :)
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Always look forward to your bite sized reviews, tips and tricks etc, particularly because you know what kind of stuff the dj community like to know, and how excited we get about things. As a Prime 4, MCX800O, and XDJ XZ, owner, I can’t justify buying the SC, as much as I like the inbuilt speaker concept. It was an oversight of the prime 4 not to have an Aux input; even the XDJ has it, and for us mobile guys, it has its use (plus not sacrificing one of the line channels).
Exactly why I got one in Addison to my Prime 4. Portability, solid build, plenty of mixingpower. I'm very happy with the unit.
Steve I like how the SC4 has that Pioneer 900NXS layout style. When the Prime 4’s layout is different. So if I had to do a gig with a NXS mixer than it would be so bad.
Great video comparison. I already purchased the Prime 4 but it's in backorder. Ironically, I might get the Live 4 instead. Just simply because the of the simplicity & design of the layout & the weight of it.
What did you go for and was it good?
I’m torn between the two. Here’s what I like from both device
Sc live 4
1 standard layout like pioneer
2Built in speaker (can’t annoy others)
3 £1000
4 song info on jog wheel
Prime 4 plus
1 can plug in turntables or cd’j
2stems
3metal face plate
If I buy sc live 4 at £1000 I can play right out of box.
If I buy prime 4 plus at £2000 I still have to buy around 50w speakers and Amp.
I just don’t want to be unhappy with what I go with.
Just picked one up. Hooked it up to beatport link. Awesome... the speakers add a whole new experience. Great jog wheels. Love it.
Did you mention beatport link because this controller is optimized for beatport link? Or were you just simply sharing your experience? Thanks in advance !
You said prime 4 plus don’t have amazon streaming. Have they now updated and added the feature? Do you think sc live 4 may get stem support?
found an sc 4 for 950, I was about to get a prime 4 for 1700. I think for money sc 4 is good value for a at home dj hobbiest. Prime 4 is insane though ngl, I had one for a moment but returned it since one channel wasnt working and it was missing the crossfader assembly
great - great review you answered a lot of things i had doubts about sc 4. thank you so much!sc live 4 really would be great if it was compatible with traktor, Denon really needs to think about it, it will have a lot more sales because there is no stand alone unit that is compatible with traktor. it is a big gap in the market that someone needs to take advantage of .
You can easily migrate your Traktor library into Engine DJ and use it on Denon gear in stand alone.
@@primaledge2916 yes I know that,but i like to play & mix in 4 decks,so the screen is very tiny for this.engine is a wonderful and simple software, it's such a shame that you can't work sc 4 and the engine with a laptop .. like serato etc..
sorry my english is not good i hope it makes sense.
@@spirosbulk It makes sense, and your English is good :) I agree that the screen is a bit small for 4 decks, but I'm sure with some time you could get used to it. I went for a Prime 4 about a year ago, and the 10 inch screen is about perfect in my opinion, plus it is adjustable which is really good.
Personally, I just struggle to understand why people would want to plug a laptop into a stand alone system - are there no 4 channel controllers that you could use instead? I'm sure that would be a much more affordable solution.
Still don't understand why denon dj not simply bought Traktor DJ division...
@@primaledge2916do you own prime 4 or plus? If so, am I right in thinking the main effects are near crossfader? So don’t have to reach out near back of device near screen?
Thank you for always giving a fair an honest assessment of both controllers always without the fluff👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Awesome video - very helpful! I have a question - how do you sync your TR8 in the background ? Im new in this space and I am surprised not to see DIN Midi outputs on ANY of those controllers/standalones.... Massive thanks in advance!
Serato can sync it over usb
@@TheDJLab thanks a ton! (Pity it can’t be done without a laptop ☺️)
No Ethernet port sadly AND no Aux-Cue/Pfl, but maybe they can add the second as software update?
Thanks for this good video!! I totally agree about the speakers, lighter to carry around and price (1300€ here vs 2400€ P4)
audio signal from Aux In, is routed to CUE automatically.
@@djmartinsk Woah, wait. Really? So you have phone playing in the Aux, not turned up the Volume Knob yet (only the little LED is showing the signla) but you can hear it in the Cue? You tried it? That would be AWESOME
@@djmartinsk Not true for PRE-listening.
UPDATE: Posted a feature request in the EngineDJ forum to implement that.
wrong. I have the Live 4. You can't pre-cue the signal. @@djmartinsk
Hey dude, always informative, so basically I have a prime 4 and the go and I always get nervous when something new comes out and start to think is my p4 dated now? So what you’re saying is that apart from Amazon streaming and on board speakers, P4 still the king?
Hold onto that Prime 4! It's still the magnum opus of 4 channel standalone.
@@geoidYT cheers buddy
Yes.. the king
So the sc live 4 can’t be played wireless? I could have sworn it had built in battery? I was looking forward to using in garden.
Nope. Mixstream Pro Go
@@TheDJLabah, thanks.
Man, I’ve wanted to get back into dj’ing for ages after 10 year break.
In your honest opinion, is the sc live 4 really good for actual DEEP mixing? The effects and pads are really cool and I think I’ll like them but I’m an old school dj with technic 1210’s.
Can I really ride the mix on sc live 4, just as well as I did on my turntables?
Mi know this may feel different but part of me thinks it won’t feel fun to mix on. Like may feel like going back to belt drive turntables that I learned to mix on.
Part of me thinks this sc live 4 may not be great for long mixes and is more for beginners or for those djs that do all the effects and beat pads etc but not much actual mixing.
I’ve watched so many videos of people dj’ing on sc live 4 and they never touch the pitch and when they do it’s only a little.
I think some are using the sync function.
Again, is it horrible experience mixing properly on this device ? And that’s why they have the Sync function?
If the prime 4 plus had club layout, I’d deff buy it but it costs twice the price of sc live 4 and without club layout, I’m unsure if I’ll like it.
Mainly because the effects are at back of unit.
Then again, I see the sweep effects on prime 4 plus, near Crossfader and part of me thinks that those 4 effects are possibly the main ones most use and if so, I’d be happy enough with prime 4 plus and it would be nice to have stems in future and to plug in turntables.
With all that said, I like the idea of £1000 for sc live 4 over £2000 for prime 4 plus
And if I buy sc live and I love it, I could always buy prime 4 plus or the pioneer equivalent, in the future.
Sorry for all the info but long story short.
Do you recommend the sc live 4 at £1000 ? If you really can do perfect manual mixes without sync feature, ? Thanks I’m advance.
I'm a owner of a Prime 4 if I was to purchase another product it will have to be the 4+
But I am satisfied with what I own now
The Prime 4 has aux also.
No it hasn't. Inform yourself before posting wrong nonsense. The P2 and Go have an Aux.
@@ImpactSpace your right is nonsense thought the other two rca next to XLR was aux. It has 4 line and no aux. My bad .
how many mics and is there a eq for the mics??
2 mics..2 eqs
@@TheDJLab on the SC LIVE not prime 4 there is 2 eq? Where on the screen? I dont see them anywhere on the unit.
It's basically the same unit. 😊
Pretty much. But Prime 4 has more. Depends on preference & need
Not really. Prime 4 plus has stems and you can plug in turntables and cd’j . You can’t do that on sc live 4 and that’s a big deal.
Being able to plug in turntables, means you can mix vinyl and digital at same time and you can have the fun of jog wheels and turntables in 1 device.
I have a Prime 4. Also I'm pretty aware of what it can do. Both are 4 channel controllers by Denon is my point. The features are probably about 90% comparable. I have 1200's also; which are hooked up to a knob fader set up.
@@grahamkelly8662 THIS DIDNT AGE WELL,2025 SC LIVE 4 HAS STEMS AND CAN TAKE TWO LC6000S😂😂😂
@@ApexNYC it actually aged fine. I stated a fact that was true at the time.
I think you don’t have an understanding of the phrase, you just used.
I recommend to not use it again, if you don’t have an understanding of the meaning.
And for your information, the Denon brand is shit and so is the sc live 4 and any other denon product.
Cheap nasty and horrible to mix with.
Congratulations for the video tutorial, just a pity that you didn't play it.
Didn't play it?
if SC live 4 had:
1) 10" touch screen
2) to work with Traktor..
for me it would be a dream unit. it just lacks those two for my tastes.
at this price it is incredibly affordable, the best value for money! please Denon do something to make this unit work with traktor.
Traktor or any other software compatibility is not Denon problem. Compatibility with any Dj software, is not decided by denon dj development team. Your question must be addressed to NI. Not to Denon DJ guys.
Im used to the 7 inch screen from my Prime Go but i hear you if it had a 10 inch screen I would have not even considered buying the Prime 4. Ultimately i went with SC 4 Live because i could get one right away and i scored a deal under $1200. Im happy 100%
Plastic fantastic🤣 - its simply chip version of prime 4 no bad at all
As an ex Prime 4 owner, think Denon have had their day, prime 4 looks nice but seriously lacking on the quality and substance of the sound output, and overall build quality. That metal body means nothing when the buttons and faders are cheap, clunky and noisy
Im thinking of getting rid of my prime 4 also
@@DoloDinero2804 why?
Give people a choice don't just discontinue shi* I like and wanted a prime 4. Now can't find one
Not discontinued
@TheDjLab where can I get one from I was on a wait list for 3months, then they refunded my money only to say it was dis continued
It's always going to be a deal breaker for me with the small jog wheels, not interested in these devices because of that.. on a budget? get a flx6 or flx6-gt for the full size jog wheels
OMG... How can you compare SC Live 4 and FLX? :D :D FLX Only software (MIDI) Controller! SC Live 4 is FULL Standalone audio DJ system (Not computer required). SC Live 4/2 have computer built in. SC Live has perfectly tuned internal CPU processing, Tuned Linux OS as the platform on which the Engine OS works.
FLX6 can not do absolutely nothing that SC Live 4 can do (without computer). Not to mention the sound quality. Especially mic preamp quality.
FLX and SC live are incomparable products. FLX is a completely different technical category of DJ equipment. I don't need a full size jog, if im not a scratch DJ. For speeding up and slowing down the song using the jog wheel, a 4-inch jog wheel is also completely sufficient. (SCLive have 6-inch Jog). Good for scratching also.
@@djmartinsk bro relax yourself and your rant. IF you can READ, "ME PERSONALLY" I prefer the FULL SIZE jog wheels, that's all it takes for me, capeesh
@@djmartinsk you will never change my mind with your little baby jog wheels 🤣🤣 that's just me bro we all have our own preferences, iigh
Or just use standard 12's then. They already exist. Problem solved.
@@jar5520 I didn't mean to change your mind, I didn't mean to... There is no need to generalize your personal opinion and preferences. In your comment, there is a generalization of the need to have a large jog wheel. :)