I trusted Mr Zikalala on his previous analysis,but on this one he is missing vital points and not being truthful to himself but faithful to those who wanted to hear wat he is saying
They do but the other 75% who wants a functional government will attend and make themselves heard, if they do not attend they will be wordt off but Zuma doesn't warry his power hungry
why do you always seek for a legal opinion from this guy, this makes no sense there are so many law firms that should be rotating, are you advertising these people or its tender vibes.
Lol😂😂 news gencies wil have certain experts on the payroll, why should they pay 5 lawfirms? Just because you don't like the law not being in your favour doesn't mean another analist can change the law
* Zikalala is in the dark forest here! * The questions are: "were the elections not rigged?", "do we have political parties that are not satisfied?", "do they have evidences to their complaints?" * If the answer is "yes" to the above questions, it means at this point in time, we don't know who got what, in the elections, which means there can be no further step that can be taken, regarding the sitting of the parliament, up until we know who got what in those elections, so I don't why are we pushing for continuity when there's something wrong. If we later found out that indeed the elections were unfair, how are we going to rectify that? Are we going to restart everything again at a later stage? Please, let's be sober minded. Zuma keeps beating you, because you ignore simple things such as this one, then later on, it becomes a surprise!
Even if we google this as South African we can see that this analyst is dodging a simpe analysing. Parliament can never proceed without the seats which are less than 350. Zuma knows his story. If they do it then we as South Africans will know it is Zondo and Ramaphosa's new constitution not a South African constitution. I am very dissappointed if some leaders does not care about us as citizens. They only care about power. This might lead us into some kind of instability in our country. We don't need violent in our country. Ramaphosa and his friend Zondo should not even try to fool us.
It will be interesting to hear the Concourt asking the MK why didn't they go to Electoral court first when they themselves entertained the now CJ case against president Zuma as the court of first instance, secondly this very court, Concourt , entertained on urgent basis the IEC"s sec 147(1)(e) interpretation dispute which could have waited until after the election. I'm waiting to hear what will transpire. Lastly it was clear from IEC/Zuma"s candidature case that the Electoral court isn't the sole owner of the jurisdiction of electoral disputes if so the Electoral court would have had a final say on sec 147(1)(e) dispute, the Concourt has displayed an omnivorous character in entertaining anything delivered to it.
Problem here only JZ calls the shots he's only concerned about fighting his battles doesn't care about the voters he claims to be doing all this on their behalf
@@picassocube3521 the people who are not accepting the rules and trying to delay the sitting of parliament by going to the top court, as well as making a lot of unfounded, untested, spurious allegations and getting their supporters all worked up about untruths, that's what and that's who. MK did really well in this election, but it is over-reaching now. It has an opportunity to do serious work in national parliament and provincial parliament and work towards building on its success, increasing its supporter base before the next election. It can't just try to break the system because it wants everything now - in the face of the vast majority of South Africans who did not vote for the party.
Section 46(1) of the Constitution states that “the National Assembly consists of no less than 350 and no more than 400 women and men elected as members”. The so-called legal expert should have given us his own interpretation. IEC don't deny that there were irregularities, they said those votes won't make a difference.
Corruption has color in this country if that vote rigging was done buy black party it would be a different story but because it was benefiting DA it's not rigging and MK is wrong to ask difficult questions
Its supposed to be 350 members that allows Parliament to continue in that 400 MPs im a kid i just want tell a truth to learners at school when they ask me that question?
Mk party have more members than 58 members more than DA and eff even anc the only problem is mk was robbed dont fool your self thinking that mk dont have many members dont undermine mk
What's the rush to parliament than hearing mkp out and sort out the issues.SO ANC is ignoring MKP the same way they did to EFF in parliament as I'd their views are not valid.
Our country is like a safari. The Big5 white families are in very luxurious game lodges served by the Concourt judges. They watch us hunt, fight and try to survive while playing chess and placing bets on who will be the next prey. The DANCEFF are the game rangers. There is just one rogue lion, he is old but wily. They will deal with him in due course. I am rooting for the old lion as the other animals are useless and just perform for their masters.
most countries in Europe have parliamentarians who are bright, educated and witty... and who would probably take their kids to the circus...we just have the circus clowns.
The legal advisor is wrong. The ConCourt in this case is court of first instance. Urgency is not just about alternative recourse but the dire consequences of the urgency is not addressed right away. The Parly will be sitting Friday so definitely there's no alternative recourse. The Khumalo guy's case cannot be more urgent and it's setdown for Thursday. No reason why the MK Party cannot be hear in the same day.
Zikalala and Mngomezulu knows the laws but interpretation is not. The same. I think this is the same thing that was one by the IEC before the elections to find clarity from the constitution courts
No clarity is needed here. 350 is a minimum number for the composition of parliament and 134 is a quorum for parliament to conduct its business like electing a speaker and president
The 350 has already been met. Parliament already has 400 elected members. If half of them decide to be absent of Friday, everything would go ahead because they only need 134 members to continue with their business.
If you think you are oppressed now, Wait for nationalisation. You will have no work, no food and no future. Remember I am from Zimbabwe and we all voted to nationalise mines, farms and backs and now they are a country of beggars. We black peoples vote for poverty always because we think our politicians want us to prosper but only they prosper under nationalisation.
In all honsety without being subjective and bias, shouldnt IEC have just spared two extra counting days to ascertain how severe or less serious were claims of vote rigging and possibly admit and recfity correctable errors? And if nobody stands up for such allegations, what chance is there that IEC will self correct in the future? As for reporters and analysts, it's no surprise they thread carefully on what to and not o touch, hence yhe above points never come thru in all interviews,, manm yet they expect ro bebtalen serious!
Zuma is not taking the country seriouse.his lawyers know the law and understand it very well and they are not advicing him the right way.This is what he has been doing when he was to appear in Zondo commion to account for his wrong doing.He acts like he owns people of South Africa.
@@khulekanivilakazi3377 indeed, no one can deny that Zuma is wise but he has capable leadership around him. Why not trust them to steer the ship? Why are they all praying to him for decision making? What happens when he dies?
*Are you saying Cyril is "concerned" about the people of South Africa with sooo much clear Vote rigging during Elections? Really??? Are you that Naive???* 🤦🏿♂️
You are so very wrong, MK is concerned with the people of South Africa, yet your Ramaphosa is working for the white minority capitalists, wake up from your slumber
@mvnization problem with us black people we like to accept nonsense 🙄 with all crisis of people on this elections.. do you say Zuma must keep quite just think again... Zuma is fighting for us
@@Tshidisob with respect to you, when Zuma was in charge he and his friends were eating, I think he is fighting for himself, for the sake of power and to be able to eat again - under the disguise of fighting for others. His record speaks.
@mvnization Zuma won't be in parliament and everyone eats why do decide to sideline Zuma and Trump? No man... I love those 2 because you can't make fool out of them
I forsee MK member's surprisingly will attend the first sitting of the National Parliament 😂😂 this was just one of their thousands strategies they have inorder to confuse the enemy 😂😂😂🎉 because they know their vote against appointment of Ramaphosa as a new President is mostly important to the Citizens of this country before the sellouts ( ANC, DA and IFP) do it again 😂
This ANC is not real a ANC for black ppl. We can blame Zuma maybe this is the right way to remove this dutch laws what a point rush to sit in the parliament when you know everything is wrong for black ppl unless don’t care about ppl but salaries that you’re going to earn in the parliament
You guys you don't talk about Greenfield corruption, the Eskom, Jooste, the eyes are always on black people and you are white angels, a black cat calling a pot black. When are you telling those saa people to go and rot in jail. Corruption by white people is always swept under carpet.
Zikalala you are a legal analyst, not a political analyst. Don’t be tempted to make political statements. Because that will reveal your political biases
Black Leader they care about thier stomach, money and position,We all seen the ballot papers all over athers ware berried. People who counting sending video about folse results don't make us stupid.
The MK has to focus on fixing KwaZuma Natal, them boycotting the First Sitting Parliament is an unsavoury strategy. Their constituency voted to be represented by them in Parliament not boycotting Parliament, MK doesn’t take it’s voters seriously
@@Qotha There’s the IEC, Electoral Court and then the Con-court. The Electoral Act is clear on how parties should launch grievances, and the process to be followed. Unfortunately these do take time. Threatening the country with violence, unrest & looting isn’t the answer because it’s we Blacks that suffer the most from this.
If ANC marries DA what will happen is DA will bring back phala phala issue arrest Ramaphosa and take the presidency country gone first all ANC supporters goes to MK
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After listening to this, it's evident that there's no such a thing such as democracy. The fate is always determined by those in control
MPs should not do secret votes. We want to see what you have done since you represent us it's not your vote it is our votes
I'm comfuse with the legality of this country coz if zondo go straight to constitutional courts it's OK but the Mkp it's a problem
HEY you ! We are NOT zumas impis here.We are Sick of YOu.Get that through your thick skull.😅
Go straight there if you want
Only the constitutional itself decides its jurisdiction
They should go to the electoral court, they are so stupid😮
His behavior is a replica of what trump is doing in the US, i think they are both taking instructions from putin
A very big problem.
Zonke lezinto eziphawula la njengayo lensizwa nje basuthi imali ka ANC.
Leave mk and eff out of the gnu
Perhaps Zuma is waiting for the Guptas to back him up!
I trusted Mr Zikalala on his previous analysis,but on this one he is missing vital points and not being truthful to himself but faithful to those who wanted to hear wat he is saying
He is 100% correct!
Bro... You trusted this clown. You are doomed.
We don't need corrupt leaders. Jail Zuma
EFF now MK. I wonder where I've seen this before🤔. O yes! The movie, Dumb and Dumberer.
The 15 percent who voted for MK matters.
🙄
They do but the other 75% who wants a functional government will attend and make themselves heard, if they do not attend they will be wordt off but Zuma doesn't warry his power hungry
The 15% that voted for them are extra special. Is it really a surprise they behave the same way as the eff
@@EgorZA8285
Tell that to the party they voted which now do not want to represent them.
Oh when its MKP they are expected to explore other avenues before going to ConCourt?
The only mistake here is to think less of Zuma 😢
why do you always seek for a legal opinion from this guy, this makes no sense there are so many law firms that should be rotating, are you advertising these people or its tender vibes.
They do invite other legal experts, stop hating
Lol😂😂 news gencies wil have certain experts on the payroll, why should they pay 5 lawfirms? Just because you don't like the law not being in your favour doesn't mean another analist can change the law
@@EgorZA82 tseg
* Zikalala is in the dark forest here!
* The questions are:
"were the elections not rigged?",
"do we have political parties that are not satisfied?",
"do they have evidences to their complaints?"
* If the answer is "yes" to the above questions, it means at this point in time, we don't know who got what, in the elections, which means there can be no further step that can be taken, regarding the sitting of the parliament, up until we know who got what in those elections, so I don't why are we pushing for continuity when there's something wrong. If we later found out that indeed the elections were unfair, how are we going to rectify that? Are we going to restart everything again at a later stage? Please, let's be sober minded. Zuma keeps beating you, because you ignore simple things such as this one, then later on, it becomes a surprise!
MK party is hungry for power, Zuma wants to fill his pockets again the wives and children is getting a to much
😂
Wow
I am confused no one has a majority but the ANC has 40% no one else came close to that !!! 40 is more than 9 and more than 15
You have to get 51%
in that case its easy coalition DA is way above 60
Even if we google this as South African we can see that this analyst is dodging a simpe analysing. Parliament can never proceed without the seats which are less than 350. Zuma knows his story. If they do it then we as South Africans will know it is Zondo and Ramaphosa's new constitution not a South African constitution. I am very dissappointed if some leaders does not care about us as citizens. They only care about power. This might lead us into some kind of instability in our country. We don't need violent in our country. Ramaphosa and his friend Zondo should not even try to fool us.
exactly and without MK MPs the Parliament is not constituted.
No one is willing to listen to the MK party needs and they also SA people like everyone else has voice requests
Causing problems.
@@SutlhaSkhosana ANC coused problems by steeling the votes for other parties
Please tell somebody who cares if the MK make it or not. These stupid games and posturing just costs the taxpayer money we cannot afford.
Stellenbosh, Phala phala chief justice. Pappert. malibuye! Aluta kontinua MK forward ever backward never ❤
Go back to sleep.
Tsek
😂
Pappert??? Mind your English😅😅😅
Idiot, we are bankrupt after they stole billions. We have now the highest official unemployment rate in the world. Are you too stupid to realise that?
uyindoda Zikalala👐🏻
I'm so glad all the hooligans that masqueraded as eff supporter have now found their rightful home in mk, we can't be associated with this madness
It will be interesting to hear the Concourt asking the MK why didn't they go to Electoral court first when they themselves entertained the now CJ case against president Zuma as the court of first instance, secondly this very court, Concourt , entertained on urgent basis the IEC"s sec 147(1)(e) interpretation dispute which could have waited until after the election. I'm waiting to hear what will transpire. Lastly it was clear from IEC/Zuma"s candidature case that the Electoral court isn't the sole owner of the jurisdiction of electoral disputes if so the Electoral court would have had a final say on sec 147(1)(e) dispute, the Concourt has displayed an omnivorous character in entertaining anything delivered to it.
Problem here only JZ calls the shots he's only concerned about fighting his battles doesn't care about the voters he claims to be doing all this on their behalf
Udakiwe
@@xolisilengcobo1997 yebo uyambona u JZ
Election rigging is a serious Matter and it should be taken serious
You will remember JZ when he is gone for now you blind.
He is fighting for the truth and ANC and AD they want people to think he is selfish.
Who cares? They can not be allowed to hold the country into random. Ba bora sis.
This country is not listening to MK.this is dangerous.is Zuma not a south African?
No he's not because he's not behaving like one, he's inciting war and national chaos. He's a mad old fool
Are we not the votes who have rights from different parties?
We are not going to be dictated by Zuma
I really don't understand what you are trying to say.
Should be in jail
@@GaragePie22 you must be out of your mind.dream on
After this chaos ,most of us might not Vote again
Voting is not helping our country but dragging us down the drain
But the chaos is a product of our voting patterns
@@luthovellem865 or its a product of the people we voted for who like to cause chaos
@@mvnization who is causing chaos? And in doing what, REALLY?
@@mvnization IEC are the ones causing caos
@@picassocube3521 the people who are not accepting the rules and trying to delay the sitting of parliament by going to the top court, as well as making a lot of unfounded, untested, spurious allegations and getting their supporters all worked up about untruths, that's what and that's who. MK did really well in this election, but it is over-reaching now. It has an opportunity to do serious work in national parliament and provincial parliament and work towards building on its success, increasing its supporter base before the next election. It can't just try to break the system because it wants everything now - in the face of the vast majority of South Africans who did not vote for the party.
Section 46(1) of the Constitution states that “the National Assembly consists of no less than 350 and no more than 400 women and men elected as members”. The so-called legal expert should have given us his own interpretation. IEC don't deny that there were irregularities, they said those votes won't make a difference.
We going to fight...asizona izingane
Fight alone and go to jail
mind your statement.
Corruption has color in this country if that vote rigging was done buy black party it would be a different story but because it was benefiting DA it's not rigging and MK is wrong to ask difficult questions
Let's stop all the race baiting.
Viva MKHONTO WESIZWE viva Msholozi THATHA MSHOLOZI 🇿🇦👑❤️ MK izowina again let's revote. IEC/ANC they're corrupt inkinga enkulu
What about the 400-57 thing?
Its supposed to be 350 members that allows Parliament to continue in that 400 MPs im a kid i just want tell a truth to learners at school when they ask me that question?
Why am i not surprised. Same ol same ol. The apple never falls far from the tree.
Are they also boycotting legislature in KZN and MP?
One has to ask, does the MK party even have 58 MPs to send to the parliament 😄😄
I do not think they even have one...
Only names submitted but " just imagine godile or Khehlezi in the national assembly 😂😂
Mk party have more members than 58 members more than DA and eff even anc the only problem is mk was robbed dont fool your self thinking that mk dont have many members dont undermine mk
@@user-vi5cg6yo6r Watch this space, all they can promise and offer is violence , disorder and mayhem , so you don't fool yourself please
What's the rush to parliament than hearing mkp out and sort out the issues.SO ANC is ignoring MKP the same way they did to EFF in parliament as I'd their views are not valid.
Let the adults get on with what the majority of the country elected them to do - there are structures available to hear MK's views in the meantime.
you are a fool, read the constitution.
ZANC at play. Politics of Gee Wagon😅
They can't boycott the proceedings because it will go ahead They exclude themselves by not being part of process
Unrelated, she is so pretty
UZikalala angaz noma uchemile or what but uyayicindezela njalo mk mekhuluma
Our country is like a safari. The Big5 white families are in very luxurious game lodges served by the Concourt judges. They watch us hunt, fight and try to survive while playing chess and placing bets on who will be the next prey. The DANCEFF are the game rangers. There is just one rogue lion, he is old but wily. They will deal with him in due course. I am rooting for the old lion as the other animals are useless and just perform for their masters.
Zuma takes things too far
Kkkk a political party should not be seen like a family business
Why should election rigging be accepted?
because those things deserve to be taken too far
is this zikalala chap a political or legal analyst?
most countries in Europe have parliamentarians who are bright, educated and witty... and who would probably take their kids to the circus...we just have the circus clowns.
Morning
What if no coalitions all this party what gonna happen
we did not say mk must to go to parliament in a rigged election you biased Zikalala
The legal advisor is wrong. The ConCourt in this case is court of first instance. Urgency is not just about alternative recourse but the dire consequences of the urgency is not addressed right away. The Parly will be sitting Friday so definitely there's no alternative recourse. The Khumalo guy's case cannot be more urgent and it's setdown for Thursday. No reason why the MK Party cannot be hear in the same day.
Zikalala and Mngomezulu knows the laws but interpretation is not. The same. I think this is the same thing that was one by the IEC before the elections to find clarity from the constitution courts
No clarity is needed here. 350 is a minimum number for the composition of parliament and 134 is a quorum for parliament to conduct its business like electing a speaker and president
@sibusisodube6835 So how will they constitute the parliament if the 350 is not met?
The 350 has already been met. Parliament already has 400 elected members. If half of them decide to be absent of Friday, everything would go ahead because they only need 134 members to continue with their business.
Our laws are Oppressed laws
If you think you are oppressed now, Wait for nationalisation. You will have no work, no food and no future. Remember I am from Zimbabwe and we all voted to nationalise mines, farms and backs and now they are a country of beggars. We black peoples vote for poverty always because we think our politicians want us to prosper but only they prosper under nationalisation.
He who makes the laws is the state
In all honsety without being subjective and bias, shouldnt IEC have just spared two extra counting days to ascertain how severe or less serious were claims of vote rigging and possibly admit and recfity correctable errors? And if nobody stands up for such allegations, what chance is there that IEC will self correct in the future? As for reporters and analysts, it's no surprise they thread carefully on what to and not o touch, hence yhe above points never come thru in all interviews,, manm yet they expect ro bebtalen serious!
The two version of original ANC are more dangerous the ANC
Beautiful lady.
Mpumelelo is working for ANC ucathi asiboni
No one will lose a sit that a lie
They will trust me
True, no one will lose a seat
Zuma is not taking the country seriouse.his lawyers know the law and understand it very well and they are not advicing him the right way.This is what he has been doing when he was to appear in Zondo commion to account for his wrong doing.He acts like he owns people of South Africa.
Your mental faculty is some how retarded
I don't know what you talking about, Zuma is right we have voted not be govern by corrupt ANC
Yizinja ezithengiwe zonke lezi
He is talking this country serious then anyone but they can't move on without solving the votes results first
@@user-ce4dm8wy2uZuma is wrong because he refused to attend the court for fraud
Raymond Zondo has a politician or has a Judiciary man
BOTH
Zuma is being petty. The guy is 82 years old!! Why are they blindly listening to him? Mk will collapse just like cope
indlela ibuzwa kwabaphambili
If you think election rigging is a small issue, you have a big problem
@@khulekanivilakazi3377 indeed, no one can deny that Zuma is wise but he has capable leadership around him. Why not trust them to steer the ship? Why are they all praying to him for decision making? What happens when he dies?
@@BuhleMpakamaZuma is not wise but a dumbass
Not all analysts analyze sense some analyze nonsense
In Africa you are are heroe when gone when you are alive you called all sorts of names.
2029 uyeza iyophuma yonke lemgodoyi ye ANC nalamambuka alandela abelungu
What are we rushing
What if constitution Court favor MKp
Never !!!! MK is being used as a toy by JZ and family again , there are no legal grounds to go to the constitutional court
This guys analysis is so biased, what if Zuma shows that the iec rigged
Mk will give us a problem. The problem is they are not concern about the people of South Africa but for their personal fights.
*Are you saying Cyril is "concerned" about the people of South Africa with sooo much clear Vote rigging during Elections? Really??? Are you that Naive???* 🤦🏿♂️
You are so very wrong, MK is concerned with the people of South Africa, yet your Ramaphosa is working for the white minority capitalists, wake up from your slumber
Really r yu that naive....
Senseless comment😢
Should have kept quiet, stupid comment
MKP will come to parly the day Dudu and Dzedzi change their minds, like in coalition talks...😊
Zuma knows something we don't know coz he is not stupid at all
what Zuma knows is how to cause chaos for the sake of trying to force an unfair advantage. He is like Donald Trump
@@mvnizationJy's mal jy
@mvnization problem with us black people we like to accept nonsense 🙄 with all crisis of people on this elections.. do you say Zuma must keep quite just think again... Zuma is fighting for us
@@Tshidisob with respect to you, when Zuma was in charge he and his friends were eating, I think he is fighting for himself, for the sake of power and to be able to eat again - under the disguise of fighting for others. His record speaks.
@mvnization Zuma won't be in parliament and everyone eats why do decide to sideline Zuma and Trump? No man... I love those 2 because you can't make fool out of them
Can asigezwa ngozuma isela futhi
Zuma is our leader. The Zulu build SA. We are in charge here. You all will listen.
Let the three version of ANC work by themselves because the believe in chaos DA did not believe in chaos
Oh they do , the DA loves chaos and drama
I forsee MK member's surprisingly will attend the first sitting of the National Parliament 😂😂 this was just one of their thousands strategies they have inorder to confuse the enemy 😂😂😂🎉 because they know their vote against appointment of Ramaphosa as a new President is mostly important to the Citizens of this country before the sellouts ( ANC, DA and IFP) do it again 😂
Obey Yooo Obey...
This ANC is not real a ANC for black ppl. We can blame Zuma maybe this is the right way to remove this dutch laws what a point rush to sit in the parliament when you know everything is wrong for black ppl unless don’t care about ppl but salaries that you’re going to earn in the parliament
Nah,you are just an uneducated Zuma tribalist.Its enough now
This analyst is one sided
Lol, because he's saying things that you don't like?😂😅😂
@@kgomotsomfisa7038 can you explain what he said maybe I'll understand it better from you
Chief justice he thinks he is above every1
The country should stop listening to the whims and grievances of Jacob Zuma.
The vast majority rejected this guy and criminals belong in jail, anyway.
You guys you don't talk about Greenfield corruption, the Eskom, Jooste, the eyes are always on black people and you are white angels, a black cat calling a pot black. When are you telling those saa people to go and rot in jail. Corruption by white people is always swept under carpet.
So DA should not enter in government with three version of ANC EFF and Mk And ANC DA be I opposition
Zikalala you don't know baba we know you have changed to the left side to you
MK ungisani asinaswela mabangalaleli sizoncalaimikhkwanco kunzokonakala
Zikalala you are a legal analyst, not a political analyst.
Don’t be tempted to make political statements. Because that will reveal your political biases
Politics will be based on legalities
Black Leader they care about thier stomach, money and position,We all seen the ballot papers all over athers ware berried.
People who counting sending video about folse results don't make us stupid.
The MK has to focus on fixing KwaZuma Natal, them boycotting the First Sitting Parliament is an unsavoury strategy. Their constituency voted to be represented by them in Parliament not boycotting Parliament, MK doesn’t take it’s voters seriously
Parliament full of people who rigged elections?
Ignoring elections rigging is the biggest sign of not caring about voters
@@Qotha There’s the IEC, Electoral Court and then the Con-court. The Electoral Act is clear on how parties should launch grievances, and the process to be followed. Unfortunately these do take time. Threatening the country with violence, unrest & looting isn’t the answer because it’s we Blacks that suffer the most from this.
We were told if vote rigging even b4 we voted. We r not fools. Boycott, parliament will continue with it task without without mk kazuma
If ANC marries DA what will happen is DA will bring back phala phala issue arrest Ramaphosa and take the presidency country gone first all ANC supporters goes to MK
This guy 😂