Then it was an accurate and true statement, and was a wise tactic to use a defensive assault that prevented the Persian ships to use the fronts of their ships and to attack the Persian ship at the sides ? Yep, real laughable statement.
eh, in reality it was a pretty drawn out, tedious, and unsightly method of warfare.. naval battles only became interesting and entertaining when cannons entered the fold. I mean, think about it, how many scenes of a ship ramming another ship can you string along before it gets repetitive?
Ancient sea battles were plenty violent, but the actual clashes were just part of the months-long games of positioning and maneuvering around bays and islands. Ancient historians often didn't understand what was going on. The Battle of Actium, for example, was seen as Cleopatra deserting Anthony, but it was probably a planned break-out maneuver. There are exciting sea battles in two old movies: The Vikings and Ben-Hur.
Naval warfare was sparce in the middle ages save in the byzantine empire, if im correct some of the first major battles in western europe were between italian trade nations.
300 isn't exactly a bastion of historical accuracy, but I appreciate the use of the javelin in this scene by the Greeks. Bows tend to get all the attention in movies, but javelins were heavily used in ancient warfare. Wish there'd been some use of slings as well.
Slings would have been hard to use in that battle since they would need extra room for the use of weapon. But yes it would be nice if they could show their use in a movie. Cheap to make and ammo is easy to come by.
It's a little bit right, no? The weather was actually bad and the persians lost a lot of their ships in the first 2 days of fighting. Athenian ships are also a lot fewer and smaller than persian ships. The movie was also right about the ambush although i doubt it was the same as in the movie.
@@general5119 On pitch black nights, we kids would have naval battles out on the lake in canoes. We would listen for the 'enemy' and shoot bottle rockets in their direction. We were influenced by Ben Hur movie of 1959, with Charlton Heston. We often shouted "Ramming Speed". It became a "meme", often meant "pick up the pace".
It is amazing how everyone of you knows a little bit of greek history!! actually i am crying.. !! i thought we arent so important.. !!! greetings, love and peace froom greece!!
One thing that they ironically made less badass in the movie is trireme ram spears. Those things were *massive* , the entire ship was basically built around the ram and as they were fast and nimble they could shred bigger ships like paper.
History Chronicler Ramming ships were used by almost all phoenecians and greeks. The romans only managed to defeat the carthaginians at sea by inventing the corvus, a bridge that could be dropped on the enemies ships to let roman melee troops walk across the sea to fight the inferior carthaginian marines in hand to hand combat. Before the invention of the corvus, carthaginian ramming ships tore apart roman fleets.
LOL what a funny joke, have you read history once, you know in books... Greeks were the nation that relied on slaves like no one else, enslaving people was extremely common.
Yeah probably, but that was l because the Persians did not attempt to change the religions and cultures of the conquered peoples but instead to accommodate all and respect them even though they probably frowned on the slavers
"Persian ships are strong at the front, but weak at the middle" Bro might as well have just said "if you kill a persian, they die" for all the good that advice does.
No , It’s a good advice. As ramming ships is how naval battles worked in Ancient Greece. Things changed when romans created the corvus and later the byzantines had the “Greek Fire”
I assume they would, morale is important in battle however I bet each person in command would have to give a speech considering the other ships wouldn't hear 😂
Themistocles was a mastermind ancient Greece had exceptional generals that proved that numbers and firepower didn't mean anything Proud and honoured to be a Greek
facken fan of everything greek .i am nerd of history and battles and i seeing ancient greece as the top !!thats why i visiting greece every summer yeahhhh
Well actually i guess these are Called Monoremes since the Galleys in the movie has a Single set of Oars, Two sets of Oars are Biremes whilst three set of Oars are Triremes.
I would like to see a realistic version of this battle, we know the Greeks won. Junkie XL nailed the soundtrack in this movie, makes it all so much more epic.
@@Marcus_405 don't get me wrong I LOVE pirate ship battles, Master and Commander was the most hardcore battle ever in my opinion because they actually showed the ships doctor throwing sand on the ground and fixing the other crew mates during the battle as well as the aftermath of the battle with all the ship repair scenes and the MASSIVE battle at the end, absolutely loved it but I'd just like to see more in the way of the changing times like when gun powder was relatively new and Cannon's were near non existent but yeah nah I still love my sea/boat battles O just wished they focused bit more about the time's before we had such things, that's all 👋🙂
Artemisia was a real person but she was a queen who fought for her overlord the Persian king. So for those of u who don't know it this war really happend. Only the pesian king didn't want revenge because his father was killed he wanted vengence because Athens helped a rebellion against him so he made Athens feel the burn that he felt when the rebellion happend
True, but you should also mention that it was not just "a rebellion" - it was a rebellion by Greek cities of Ionia (to which Athens owed allegiance and support, as the Ionian metropolis) against their Persian overlords, by whom they had been conquered in the past. Re. Artemisia, I agree - she was also of Greek origin in part and must have been a very interesting character. Herodotus speaks highly of her. And we still use that name for girls in Greece.
WHAAAT? Next you'll say some shit like the Spartans fought with heavy Armour and didn't show their Six-Pack abs while fighting. We all know the Hoplites wore no Armour. That's why they were called Hop-lites and not Hop-heavies.
Athens won battle of Marathon by alone (and 1000 Platean allies) Athens won Salamis naval battle not by themselves only, but they were almost half the fleet and were trained years for this Battle of Platea was won by a combined greek hoplite army but still when Persians retreated to their fort, Spartan asked Athenians to breach it since they were known fort attackers in a time that very few "forts" existed in Ancient Greece Spartans were good hoplites and very very disciplined but they are a little overhyped
This scene is actually absurd. Another commenter said the scene in Ben Hur is more realistic, so I searched and watched the scene. It is excellent, and captures what it must have been like to be belowdecks and just rowing as chaos and carnage goes on above and outside.
yeah its not historical but it conveys the skill and mad bravery of the greeks at salamis you can bet the persians were terrified of them on sea after that, because they only ever lost after this and stopped even trying to fight them
since am Ancient Greek armor fan I would like to point out how perfectly those "helmets" these guys wear are desing to help the enemy stub them in the mouth or back of the neck.
Note-Athens had the first triremes where it goes 3 times faster. And also had the strongest man hold the biggest one, this is weird because the dont have triremes of course this is a movie but just to note
@@bryanhickernell7189 I dunno, man. The main character in this movie gives one prior to like, every battle in the movie. You might be right though. In 300, we get a bunch of speeches about Democracy, and how Sparta leads the way in that department. Which is weird, because the Spartans had a weird caste system where only citizens could vote, and you had to be both Spartan by birth and serve in their military to be a citizen. They also had slaves, which I believe they called 'Helots.' They had no rights whatsoever, and one of a Spartan soldiers final tests before they graduated into the military was to sneak out at night, murder a Helot and not get caught. That's some odd Democracy right there.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj what makes it even more hilarious is that most of the things said by the Spartans in 300 were actually historically said. When the Persian said our arrows will blot out the sun? The Spartans actually said then we will fight in the shade. It’s real funny. The Spartans were basically action heroes on crack lol
@@bryanhickernell7189 this is true. I know when one enemy of the Spartans sent a letter to them containing wild threats, saying stuff like, 'If we defeat you we will salt your fields,' the Spartan king sent back a one word reply that just read 'If.' 😄 I believe that brevity and humor were things they were actually schooled in, which is pretty crazy. But...everything about the Spartans was pretty crazy, and their whole, 'We never take one step back' attitude actually led to their eventual downfall. They literally ran out of dudes to send to war. When Spartans lost a battle, their army would be destroyed down to the last man, and you can't win them all. Thermopylae was a battle for the ages, however, and I know a statue of Leonidas still stands there; although it was 2 generations of Spartan kings that fought the Persians. Leonidas' dad was the guy who kicked the Persian messenger dude down the well when they came and asked for 'earth and water.' But yeah that really happened. The movie also got Ephialtes (I know I got that wrong) - the dude that betrayed the Spartans - and his goat path flanking maneuver correct, although I doubt he looked like he did in the movie. He did betray the Spartans though. The first and second '300' movies are big fun, and I enjoy them. They may have an only tenuous grasp of actual history, but it's enough to get people like me to go watch history documentaries and read books about the whole thing and whatnot, and that's pretty cool.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj which is why I think the original 300 is better for the speeches because they were actually made so ya know more epic. The party before the final battle at thermopyalae that actually happened too but it’s one of those things where the truth is actually worse then the movie lol. The Spartans literally got naked and bronzed themselves to get themselves ready for the underworld
+Rick Gauger Greeks defeated the Persians at the end of the day. Yet you want to criticize the movie over obvious jealousy. No movie ever made based on Historical events was made 100% accurate. It's a movie made to entertain, not the fucking history channel. You're only criticizing it because it's Europeans. A less advanced civilization at the time defeated a super advanced super power at the time and you can never take that away.
Τριήρης , triremes , were the superweapon of it's era . Strong frame , designed to RAM bigger but weaker ships , BRONZE RAM , it was a man propelled torpedoe , cutting ships into half . And they had a sale that is not shown here :P I am glad that non greeks like assassintwinat8 actually do know some details about real history and not Hollywood inventions :P Oh and guess what , at Salamis , unlike in the movie , Kicked ASSES , their ships ruined the Persian Fleet !!!!
Giannis Kavala My half Brother is Greek, and he taught me ancient history when i was growing up, he is very proud of it himself. But then again, the whole western world does kind of owe their existence to the Greeks.
Themisticles was real, the Persians attempted to invaded in 490bc but the Athenians repelled them in the battle of Marathon. I could carry on but I think you get the jist historical accuracy depends on how specific you're going to be
+Paulo Xavier Pinheiro Cadavez - De Flexo the greeks or spartan used to wear full armor and werent 300 hundred in the first movie they were more than 11000 in this the second movie were more then that.
+jiN kan yeah spartans and athenians wear full armor, and in the 300 movie those were not the true spartan army those were king Leonidas personal bodyguard cuz the spartan has a occasion or something that their army is forbidden to fight
Ω, παίδες Ελλήνων, ίτε Ελευθερούτε πατρίδ’ ελευθερούτε δε παίδας, γυναίκας, θεών τε πατρώων έδη, θήκας τε προγόνων, νύν υπέρ παντών αγών... This is the glorious oath of the ancient Greeks at the battle of Salamis. Translate Oh,children of the Greeks,Today you fight to free your nation,your children,women,the temples of the Gods and the graves of your ancestors.Now,is the battle for EVERYTHING.
Except they didn't need that ridiculous shit. The triremes were more maneuvrable than the larger Persian vessels, and the Persians kind of needed to get the Greek fleet out of the way - and thus would've attacked regardless. If these tactics usually worked, they would've been employed all the time.
Yep especialy Galleys of the Mediterrenian. There is a Reason why Viking ships never Carried any kind of rams, because the last thing you would ever want to See in a Storm as a Captain is a 2 meter long Bronze made ram pushing the Ships bow underwater. And on earth how these soldiers arent falling from the deck made of Angled wood? And where are the Sails anyways?
people can say what they want about this movie, this this scene alone was probably the most epic/badass fight/music scene i've ever seen in movie history
“The Persian ships are strong at the front, but weak in the middle” lmao, literally every Trireme/Bireme ship. Still epic af
Pretty much all ships until world war 2, during the golden age of sail, bow was always the strongest part of the ship
Then it was an accurate and true statement, and was a wise tactic to use a defensive assault that prevented the Persian ships to use the fronts of their ships and to attack the Persian ship at the sides ? Yep, real laughable statement.
@@solonlysander2180 Exactly.
Pretty much any wooden ship.
yes but it was more important to state cause the persian ships where heavier and bulkier, thus harder to manuever
Definitely needs to be more naval battles in movies. Especially ancient times and middle ages times.
eh, in reality it was a pretty drawn out, tedious, and unsightly method of warfare.. naval battles only became interesting and entertaining when cannons entered the fold. I mean, think about it, how many scenes of a ship ramming another ship can you string along before it gets repetitive?
the *Naval Battle of Trafalgar* would be EPIC!
Ancient sea battles were plenty violent, but the actual clashes were just part of the months-long games of positioning and maneuvering around bays and islands. Ancient historians often didn't understand what was going on. The Battle of Actium, for example, was seen as Cleopatra deserting Anthony, but it was probably a planned break-out maneuver. There are exciting sea battles in two old movies: The Vikings and Ben-Hur.
Gummy Grizzly agreed, Id like to see the battle of Sluis and the battle of Actium on the big screen once
Naval warfare was sparce in the middle ages save in the byzantine empire, if im correct some of the first major battles in western europe were between italian trade nations.
300 isn't exactly a bastion of historical accuracy, but I appreciate the use of the javelin in this scene by the Greeks. Bows tend to get all the attention in movies, but javelins were heavily used in ancient warfare. Wish there'd been some use of slings as well.
Slings would have been hard to use in that battle since they would need extra room for the use of weapon. But yes it would be nice if they could show their use in a movie. Cheap to make and ammo is easy to come by.
It's based on a comic
Historical accuracy - 1/10
Epicness - 9/10
Abdominals - 10/10
I don't agree
Historical 3/10
Epicness 10/10
Story made 10/10
Never mess the greeks
It's a little bit right, no? The weather was actually bad and the persians lost a lot of their ships in the first 2 days of fighting. Athenian ships are also a lot fewer and smaller than persian ships. The movie was also right about the ambush although i doubt it was the same as in the movie.
@@brokeindio5072
All of you are with crystal. Did you lived it outta cinema? Or had one of you had a granppa belong to this
@@hamala7437 nigga last time i checked, google is up and working
@@brokeindio5072 lmfao XD
1:46 The Persians riding on a huge wave into battle while Junkie XLs score rocks might just be one of the most awesome things I have ever seen
the soundtrack to this movie was astounding
Joey Fisher one of my favorite soundtracks from a movie, another being Fury
"Go through them!"
@@KiwiSpartan01 علي
So true...suits well
Marathon is truly a unique song that just hypes you up! Very well amazing soundtrack
girls during canoeing: watch out veronica, im almost close to colliding with your boat"
bois during canoeing: 3:23 - 4:26
Lmao true
@@alejandrogorricho4791 lmao
Hell yeah
Lol I did exactly this when I was canoeing with my friends
@@general5119 On pitch black nights, we kids would have naval battles out on the lake in canoes. We would listen for the 'enemy' and shoot bottle rockets in their direction. We were influenced by Ben Hur movie of 1959, with Charlton Heston. We often shouted "Ramming Speed". It became a "meme", often meant "pick up the pace".
03:12 this guy is amazing because even he got hurt he took care of his member
It is amazing how everyone of you knows a little bit of greek history!! actually i am crying.. !! i thought we arent so important.. !!! greetings, love and peace froom greece!!
You‘re the founders of democracy and western civilization, everybody should know about you!
TheRiperas lol most of us are Americans. We love warriors and countries that fight.
TheRiperas u kidding me, Ancient Greek History is the best History out there
Bruh I enjoy Greek history more than American history lol and I'm American.
This is SPARTA!
I'm from persia. We proud of our History. Respect to all Greek. Sending warmest condolences to our fathers from persia & Greece
Kind words💔
I’m English. Yeah, sorry about “colonising” the world. Aha
@@kenpachiazazel7441 yet you kinda failed
@@lolopard99 xdddd yeah
You should indeed be proud - you have a great history. Respect from Greece and memory eternal for all who died there.
One thing that they ironically made less badass in the movie is trireme ram spears. Those things were *massive* , the entire ship was basically built around the ram and as they were fast and nimble they could shred bigger ships like paper.
that’s badass as fuck
The 300 movies have, in my opinion, the BEST soundtracks to just get down to.
Junkie XL 👍🏻
the guy at 0:38 is such a greek face. like seriously
if he started speaking fluent greek i wouldn't be suprised
before this movie i never thought about how naval warfare worked before canons.
wow....
Totally not true, as amazing as the CGI is it is not based on real ancient world combat. Just saying Ben Hur sea battle was more realistic then this
***** jup.fascinating.
+99brickstudios it wasnt like this , there are ancient scripts explaining how exaclty were occuring and the tactics used
History Chronicler Ramming ships were used by almost all phoenecians and greeks. The romans only managed to defeat the carthaginians at sea by inventing the corvus, a bridge that could be dropped on the enemies ships to let roman melee troops walk across the sea to fight the inferior carthaginian marines in hand to hand combat. Before the invention of the corvus, carthaginian ramming ships tore apart roman fleets.
Something so badass about "Go through them!" that fires me up so much.
Feel sorry for the salves who get crushed inside the Persian ships
+Ian Rosas Greek ships have slaves, too?
+thanhaq98 in general I mean
LOL what a funny joke, have you read history once, you know in books...
Greeks were the nation that relied on slaves like no one else, enslaving people was extremely common.
the Persians had no slaves the Greeks did
Yeah probably, but that was l because the Persians did not attempt to change the religions and cultures of the conquered peoples but instead to accommodate all and respect them even though they probably frowned on the slavers
What the actual hell is the ocean doing in the this scene?
This is in Mediterranean Sea.
+Zillion1950 Channel pretty sure it's the aegean sea
The Aegean is a part of the Mediterranean ;)
Gniewko Drewnicki yep it is.
Donald J. Trumpinator yep near on Greece.
"Persian ships are strong at the front, but weak at the middle"
Bro might as well have just said "if you kill a persian, they die" for all the good that advice does.
No , It’s a good advice. As ramming ships is how naval battles worked in Ancient Greece.
Things changed when romans created the corvus and later the byzantines had the “Greek Fire”
@@phantasosxgames8488 considering every single ship on the water in the movie has a ram
Uh no
2:19 very realistic... ships gain speed because of that water-mountain xD
I think you mean giant water wave.
@@marcelvanderschaar3446 I think I meant what I said. It's called metaphor.
I wonder if they gave such inspiring speeches back then before battle
Mostly scholars and education people BC are learn linguistic, speech, music and philosophy.
Yeah but only like 10-20 guys would heard it ^^
I assume they would, morale is important in battle however I bet each person in command would have to give a speech considering the other ships wouldn't hear 😂
It looks like an extreme version of bumper cars, using boats
TheOMGsee this is actually how naval warfare went in ancient times
Sort all comments by newest to see my comment on how accurate this is.
Greek ships circling was the most brutal moshpit ever
Themistocles was a mastermind ancient Greece had exceptional generals that proved that numbers and firepower didn't mean anything
Proud and honoured to be a Greek
مغز متفکر یونان چرا بعد از این جنگ به ایران پناهنده شد؟؟😂😂
facken fan of everything greek .i am nerd of history and battles and i seeing ancient greece as the top !!thats why i visiting greece every summer yeahhhh
The ship that the Greeks used are called "Triremes"
Well actually i guess these are Called Monoremes since the Galleys in the movie has a Single set of Oars, Two sets of Oars are Biremes whilst three set of Oars are Triremes.
This is so much like Assassins Creed Odyssey. You can ram ships in half like that. Love it
I would like to see a realistic version of this battle, we know the Greeks won. Junkie XL nailed the soundtrack in this movie, makes it all so much more epic.
Did you know that this line collides ships and fighting in the sea I did by Osman ibn Affan since 1419 years from now
I'd love to see more of these ancient naval battles because (to me at least) the whole ''pirate era'' with cannons and guns is just plain boring.
They’re both exciting. But I think cannons is a little more exciting because it provides fighting from a distance before closing in and boarding
nah both are cool, take the flying dutchman vs the black pearl in pirates of the carribean
@@Marcus_405 don't get me wrong I LOVE pirate ship battles, Master and Commander was the most hardcore battle ever in my opinion because they actually showed the ships doctor throwing sand on the ground and fixing the other crew mates during the battle as well as the aftermath of the battle with all the ship repair scenes and the MASSIVE battle at the end, absolutely loved it but I'd just like to see more in the way of the changing times like when gun powder was relatively new and Cannon's were near non existent but yeah nah I still love my sea/boat battles O just wished they focused bit more about the time's before we had such things, that's all 👋🙂
You can clearly see who are the real Greeks and who are Brits lol.
Are you blind?
Sharks eating good tonight!
Thankyou for this ❤
The way Themystocles shouted " Attack" was so badass
Artemisia was a real person but she was a queen who fought for her overlord the Persian king. So for those of u who don't know it this war really happend.
Only the pesian king didn't want revenge because his father was killed he wanted vengence because Athens helped a rebellion against him so he made Athens feel the burn that he felt when the rebellion happend
Finally someone remembers the Ionian rebellions!
Except that when he burnt athens almoat no one was there, lol.
@@brokeindio5072 lmao
It burned Athens because I had been evacuated by the Athenians. It was a strategic move by Themistocles!
True, but you should also mention that it was not just "a rebellion" - it was a rebellion by Greek cities of Ionia (to which Athens owed allegiance and support, as the Ionian metropolis) against their Persian overlords, by whom they had been conquered in the past. Re. Artemisia, I agree - she was also of Greek origin in part and must have been a very interesting character. Herodotus speaks highly of her. And we still use that name for girls in Greece.
Really good movie!! Shows how brutal naval warfare was in those times! Only long range weapons: Spears and arrows!!
A religious war.
Yes I believe you’re right bout that!
One of my favorite movies!! Ancient Battles are REAL and NOBLE Battles!!! Ancient Naval Battles are so freaking Epic!!! 🛡️⛵🗡️
I like when Themysticlyse shouted " Attack" now that's badass
This isnt a history lesson. Its a movie for entertainment purposes. Chill out on the inaccuracies
WHAAAT?
Next you'll say some shit like the Spartans fought with heavy Armour and didn't show their Six-Pack abs while fighting.
We all know the Hoplites wore no Armour. That's why they were called Hop-lites and not Hop-heavies.
People tend to forget that Athens may not have had the military prowess of Sparta but they were still a power to be reckoned with
Athens won battle of Marathon by alone (and 1000 Platean allies)
Athens won Salamis naval battle not by themselves only, but they were almost half the fleet and were trained years for this
Battle of Platea was won by a combined greek hoplite army but still when Persians retreated to their fort, Spartan asked Athenians to breach it since they were known fort attackers in a time that very few "forts" existed in Ancient Greece
Spartans were good hoplites and very very disciplined but they are a little overhyped
Lol, just some tribal kingdom...of few thousand people.
They had the best sailors in the world at the time
@@raj-hf4wbjust like every other Greek city state yet people know about them 3k years later
@@Stcddot thank some holly movies,otherwise hardly anyone single out the location on map !!
Attack!! I really like it when Gen. Thymisticles shouted it
The best moment, when he shouts 'go thru them'
oh god...this is so epic but when he shouts reverse while on top of a ship I lose my shiet...i cant hold it.
u must see what they be talking now. right at this slide. oh them sisies are so done dones :DD months now...but every day gets better
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they sell more to us now
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here sisy, here , succ
Damn bro you need laxatives
Epic scene, although ancient ships seem to move fast like motorboats :P
I just didn't plan enough time to do it. Amazing! ;o
Doesn't matter if it was 0 percent accurate, the epicenes and music is all I car about.
It does matter selfish 🌏
Poor rowers had there arms strapped to the boat so they couldn't get out alive
This scene is actually absurd. Another commenter said the scene in Ben Hur is more realistic, so I searched and watched the scene. It is excellent, and captures what it must have been like to be belowdecks and just rowing as chaos and carnage goes on above and outside.
True very sad
yeah its not historical but it conveys the skill and mad bravery of the greeks at salamis
you can bet the persians were terrified of them on sea after that, because they only ever lost after this and stopped even trying to fight them
This why I love history of navel battles thanks pops miss you everyday
i wish they hadnt gone for sequel bating at the end and just delivered with the battle.
because when shit was going down it was really sweet.
all cgi is amazing but why cant they make the blood as realistic. its just pouring out like bucket full of water =v =
at least we are entertained stop with bullshit CGI this naval battle is interesting
+Yozi Kun Its stylized.
I see
+Yozeh Sempie to much anime
The blood is based off the design and art style of the comic
since am Ancient Greek armor fan I would like to point out how perfectly those "helmets" these guys wear are desing to help the enemy stub them in the mouth or back of the neck.
These helmets look nothing like any of the Corinthian style helmets I've ever seen
the comment was ment to be satirical
Ok
I really like when Gen. Themistycles said. "Ram Them"
Note-Athens had the first triremes where it goes 3 times faster. And also had the strongest man hold the biggest one, this is weird because the dont have triremes of course this is a movie but just to note
This movie contains more bombastic motivational speeches than any other movie in history.
Original 300 has more lol
@@bryanhickernell7189 I dunno, man. The main character in this movie gives one prior to like, every battle in the movie.
You might be right though.
In 300, we get a bunch of speeches about Democracy, and how Sparta leads the way in that department.
Which is weird, because the Spartans had a weird caste system where only citizens could vote, and you had to be both Spartan by birth and serve in their military to be a citizen.
They also had slaves, which I believe they called 'Helots.' They had no rights whatsoever, and one of a Spartan soldiers final tests before they graduated into the military was to sneak out at night, murder a Helot and not get caught.
That's some odd Democracy right there.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj what makes it even more hilarious is that most of the things said by the Spartans in 300 were actually historically said. When the Persian said our arrows will blot out the sun? The Spartans actually said then we will fight in the shade. It’s real funny. The Spartans were basically action heroes on crack lol
@@bryanhickernell7189 this is true. I know when one enemy of the Spartans sent a letter to them containing wild threats, saying stuff like, 'If we defeat you we will salt your fields,' the Spartan king sent back a one word reply that just read 'If.'
😄
I believe that brevity and humor were things they were actually schooled in, which is pretty crazy.
But...everything about the Spartans was pretty crazy, and their whole, 'We never take one step back' attitude actually led to their eventual downfall.
They literally ran out of dudes to send to war. When Spartans lost a battle, their army would be destroyed down to the last man, and you can't win them all.
Thermopylae was a battle for the ages, however, and I know a statue of Leonidas still stands there; although it was 2 generations of Spartan kings that fought the Persians. Leonidas' dad was the guy who kicked the Persian messenger dude down the well when they came and asked for 'earth and water.'
But yeah that really happened. The movie also got Ephialtes (I know I got that wrong) - the dude that betrayed the Spartans - and his goat path flanking maneuver correct, although I doubt he looked like he did in the movie. He did betray the Spartans though.
The first and second '300' movies are big fun, and I enjoy them. They may have an only tenuous grasp of actual history, but it's enough to get people like me to go watch history documentaries and read books about the whole thing and whatnot, and that's pretty cool.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj which is why I think the original 300 is better for the speeches because they were actually made so ya know more epic.
The party before the final battle at thermopyalae that actually happened too but it’s one of those things where the truth is actually worse then the movie lol. The Spartans literally got naked and bronzed themselves to get themselves ready for the underworld
That is called a war tactics 💪💪💪
Boy, if Herodotus could see this bullshit, he'd say, "This is bullshit!" But it's good bullshit, sir, I would reply.
No just simple plain bullshit.
+Rick Gauger Greeks defeated the Persians at the end of the day. Yet you want to criticize the movie over obvious jealousy. No movie ever made based on Historical events was made 100% accurate. It's a movie made to entertain, not the fucking history channel. You're only criticizing it because it's Europeans. A less advanced civilization at the time defeated a super advanced super power at the time and you can never take that away.
Herodotus would love this stuff.
The greatest quote in winning wars to this day " Don't get killed or die at the first day"😂
has anyone noticed the TITANIC WAVE OF 30 METERS IN DEEP SEA
when that touches land, it will destroy everything
+Mike A lol yea aegian see dont have such waves , neved did lol
+Unlim ited as far as i know, there isnt any sea that has that waves. if one like that arrives at land, the tsunami of japan would be nothing compared
i saw it. my first (maybe second) was. AH, GENERAL.... WE'RE GOING TO NEED BIGGER BOATS! (i know their called ships, i was implying a joke)
ytgo300
300 Άνοδος μιας Αυτοκρατορίας, 1ος Περσικός ναυτικός επίθεση, Περσικός στόλος εναντίον Έλληνα Στόλου (σκηνή μάχης)
I hope that Hollywood should make more Ancient Naval Warfare Movies " Like 300 Rise of an Empire"
3:10 dude took a hit but then went badass mode. Lol
Τριήρης , triremes , were the superweapon of it's era . Strong frame , designed to RAM bigger but weaker ships , BRONZE RAM , it was a man propelled torpedoe , cutting ships into half . And they had a sale that is not shown here :P
I am glad that non greeks like assassintwinat8 actually do know some details about real history and not Hollywood inventions :P Oh and guess what , at Salamis , unlike in the movie , Kicked ASSES , their ships ruined the Persian Fleet !!!!
Giannis Kavala My half Brother is Greek, and he taught me ancient history when i was growing up, he is very proud of it himself. But then again, the whole western world does kind of owe their existence to the Greeks.
The plural of trieres is trierai actually
This is a movie meant for entertainment not a documentary about ancient greece
"Congratulations, you have been awarded the role of rower for the Persian navy"
👆🤡😅
the only historical true fact on this movie is the ramming, i havent find anything else historicaly accurate lol
Themisticles was real, the Persians attempted to invaded in 490bc but the Athenians repelled them in the battle of Marathon. I could carry on but I think you get the jist historical accuracy depends on how specific you're going to be
+Paulo Xavier Pinheiro Cadavez - De Flexo the greeks or spartan used to wear full armor and werent 300 hundred in the first movie they were more than 11000 in this the second movie were more then that.
jiN kan only proving my point. It depends how specific you want to be. The film is accurate when you look at it with a basic description
+jiN kan yeah spartans and athenians wear full armor, and in the 300 movie those were not the true spartan army those were king Leonidas personal bodyguard cuz the spartan has a occasion or something that their army is forbidden to fight
+Unlim ited I think because 300 was based off a graphic novel... and 300 age of empires is an extension...???
Eva Green’s face at the end. LOL 😆
Shit if I were there I'd be cold as fuck.
That one comment...
Ω, παίδες Ελλήνων, ίτε Ελευθερούτε πατρίδ’ ελευθερούτε δε παίδας, γυναίκας, θεών τε πατρώων έδη, θήκας τε προγόνων, νύν υπέρ παντών αγών...
This is the glorious oath of the ancient Greeks at the battle of Salamis.
Translate
Oh,children of the Greeks,Today you fight to free your nation,your children,women,the temples of the Gods and the graves of your ancestors.Now,is the battle for EVERYTHING.
Relax. Have your yoghurt and your greaseball. Relax.
- An Iranian.
اگه همون تاریخ دروغ هرو ت رو خونده باشی.این قهرمان ملی برای امپراطوری ایران خدمت میکرد..😄
El primer enfrentamiento naval contra los persas...
historically accurate :
the greek naval battle skills
historically inaccurate :
the battle setting
NO
GREECE ELLAS 4EVER
That Greek formation looks really easy to ram.
yes it does
That's the point 😂
Except they didn't need that ridiculous shit. The triremes were more maneuvrable than the larger Persian vessels, and the Persians kind of needed to get the Greek fleet out of the way - and thus would've attacked regardless. If these tactics usually worked, they would've been employed all the time.
That’s the point
If memory serves me right that formation is exactly what they did and it worked.
Saw this in theatres tripping on acid with the boys. For some reason we were the only ones in the theatre laughing.
Have y'all noticed how in 4:22 a Persian guy is yeeted out of the ship when the Greeks rammed them? That made me laugh
It's so cool that in this scene, two Greek boats would ram into a big Persian boat to split it apart and make it sink.
Ancient galleys wouldn't have been at sea on a rough day like that.
by the look of the wave, it is the apocalipsis, not only a storm day
Yep especialy Galleys of the Mediterrenian. There is a Reason why Viking ships never Carried any kind of rams, because the last thing you would ever want to See in a Storm as a Captain is a 2 meter long Bronze made ram pushing the Ships bow underwater. And on earth how these soldiers arent falling from the deck made of Angled wood? And where are the Sails anyways?
Cool
Persian ships are harder at the front but weak in the middle. Now that's epic
ah yes, the old "turning the stationary ship like a tank on land" strategy. classic greeks
there is one thing to make sure when the figthing starts .
Don’t get killed on the first day.
Sagasaan sila!!! Ahhh nice shout by Themystoclyse
This producer was awesome. I'm in 2021
He could do with Geraaaards voice for the rousing speech eh?
people can say what they want about this movie, this this scene alone was probably the most epic/badass fight/music scene i've ever seen in movie history
You should watch more movies
personally the best naval battle in the cinema was the one of ben-hur
I wish that Hollywood should create more Ancient Greek Historical Navy Movies
Greeks are heroes
European border control at Greece 480 BC.
Hollywood should really make more Ancient Naval Warfare.
The Maelstrom is what Themistocles thrives in. A chaos to counter all other variants of chaos.
God bless Greece.
In the south, they were advanced much earlier than the vikings
Totally different ship technology. A trireme would be swallowed up on the much stormier Atlantic.
The naval action is the only saving face thing about that sequel to 300 film.
So after leonidas got in to the arrows fights this came out?
so all the ancients greeks fought half naked with no armor huh?
No actually Spartans and Athenians wore a lot of armor, the are half naked to show that they are stronger and better at war ( which they were)
@@TheHarbinger827 They weren't...
@@saeedvazirian are you okay?
Ancient Greeks loved armors
This is romanticized, heavily.
Eternal glory to Greece🇬🇷
Wow,those Greek ships are so easy to maneuver in killer waves.
These Greek soldier had bigger balls for attacking without it's armor and trained well
This movie is ridiculous :D
no kick-ass is ridiculous :D
Instead of “A-OO” it’s “Yeahh”
This is the origin of naval warship battles in this modern world
This movie was in my opinion better than the first. The literal blue collar Athenians seemed more relatable then the Spartans.