This kind of mysterious problem occurs but no one can resolve. Very smart for you guys to manage this complicated situation. I can see you are on the right track ! Fingers crossed!
B.O.A.T.....Bring-Out-Another-Thousand. Hope you're nicely tucked away in the Marquesas Islands. It's been a very active cyclone season so far, with another one about to form this weekend. Cheers for another wonderful video. Looking forward to seeing you sailing again.
Nice video. The stray current mystery is a good lesson on how to track this down and is interesting how it can cause problems with the rig. Thanks for sharing.
it would be great to know if they had a reference text - some to refer to - when we are inevitably in the same situation. again thankyou - and a really good result for you yacht and the people who sail in her @@HarborsUnknown
nicola tesla said in his colorado resarch that per every meter elevation there is 100volt potential difference. so if the mast is 20 m it means 2000volt. so good grounding from top to the sea is important. an idea could be like this.. a small cupper ball and cupper rod with wire ( long battery cable size) down to either sb or port and contact with water. the alu mast has more resistans than an cupper wire so electrical path will go thru less resistance. it also can help in direct lightingstrike. if an earthfault breaker disconnect both batteryterminals ..these earfaultbreakers react so fast that ligthning goes thru cupper rod..wire..sea instead the mast, thru electronics onboard. air is conductive and a salty evironment is also conductive. maybe this make any sense to you. i was a ship repairman ( merchant marine) i think you are doing good out there :) bestfrom björn sweden.
Wow!! That’s science stuff!!! Love the explanation. Thank you, when the SW shipwright comes on board in April we will show him your comment. For us this is way above our heads. We appreciate your comment and thanks for watching!
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So I am happy that you found the issue before major damage occurred. Wait replacing rigging which should last at least 10 years is major damage in my book. I am not happy with the answers so far and will wait to see the resolution of this issue. I still think that you guys need to find the source of this current very soon. I am not trying to blame anyone just want to see the issue eliminated completely. Even if you re-bed the stantion that current has to be coming from somewhere. Maybe I am wrong but I think it needs to be well understood and documented. That way the state of the art boat building can be advanced.
We’re also looking forward to getting to the bottom of this. The Seawind shipwright, who is also an electrician, is coming to take care of a few things on the boat in May and this is one them. Thanks for watching!
Well done for managing this whole process so calmly! I'm sure that it hasn't been without a lot of stress, but you do seem to have managed to remain calm and carry on so well. Such good fortune to have bought a new sail, which led you to discover what could have been a disastrous situation if gone unrevealed! Great catch - safer boat with new rigging, so go fly that kite!
🤩🤩thank you so much! You hit the nail on the head! We consider ourselves very fortunate and we have to look at minor setbacks such as this for what they are, “broken stuff” while we are surrounded by beautiful scenery, wonderful friends and a whole lot of viewers and supporters like you!! Thank you😊😊😊
Wow! Maybe a blessing in disguise. The electrolysis is concerning. I've had to chase this myself on two of my previous boats. It can be quite damaging. Super glad you may have found this issue. Or at least isolated it. Talk about a needle in a haystack..... Happy to see ya'll back in the saddle.
It is definitely a needle in a haystack but hopefully we’ve isolated it! We’ll re-bed the stanchion in April/May. Hopefully that will resolve the issue but if not we’ll resume troubleshooting. Thanks for watching!
It’s a little worrying how destructive electrolysis can be , I’ve seen other channels show sail drives that have been almost destroyed by that bit of stray current, especially when connected to shore power for an extended period. But what you’ve shown I’d say is quite subtle damage , which makes it more worrying . Lucky that you’ve found it and got it sorted , so you can go back out and play 😃🤣🍻🥂
Yes, this was concerning because we could have easily missed the issue but thankfully the rigging was replaced before anything happened and we should be able to get the stanchion re-bedded in May. We constantly monitor our zincs on the sail drives to make sure they’re ok. Thanks so much for watching & your continuous support Dave! 😊🍻
I'm sure its a lot more expensive but I've heard lots of great things about composite rigging. Obviously carbon fiber can't conduct electricity and can't corrode. I've seen/heard of people replacing braided lifelines with dyneema lifelines. That would also isolate the current to that pulpit.
Absolutely!! Composite rigging is probably the way to go. A bit more expensive and at this time no budget for it. We just replaced what was broken, but in the future we are considering Deneen’s lifelines and composite rigging. Even the stanchions could be composite. Thank you for watching 😊
😂😂😂 thank you! We try to keep our cool, it’s not stress that kills us, it’s our reaction to it 😂. Our friend, nicknamed the “wizard of Wall Street” says-: it’s only stuff, it’s not health, love, relationships, friendships. It’s only stuff.
With my vast and extensive knowledge of 'lectricity (not!), I suspect a chafed wire where the navlight passes down the stanchion and thru the deck. Glad you found out about it though, not sure I would have had a rigger recheck the stuff after you just did a few months ago, or maybe it's been longer.
Last check was in Linton Bay before crossing the Panama Canal. It was rather serendipitous but we had been talking about flying a winged spinnaker without main and all the pressure on the rig… so we were a bit over cautious. I am sure that the stia to be continued… 🤫😐😬
That's called preventative maintenance I think you do a wonderful job thank you for sharing those beautiful smiles I enjoyed the episode and will see you next week
Great boat good content but really all boat maintenance, seems like alot has gone wrong but you are using this boat 100% and using her hard , and constantly, this is boating life looking forward to more
You got that right!! We are surrounded by friends in beautiful anchorages who, just like us, spend a great deal of time on boat maintenance. 😊😊 reality of boat life!!
Thank you!! Good point, we are just navigating uncharted waters, when it comes to electricity we are a bit clueless. Thankfully Seawind is sending an electrician to help us sort this out 😊
Interesting… given your hypothesis of the carbon conducting to the pulpit, even if you re-bed the pulpit that still means somehow the voltage is getting to the carbon. Do you have other interior metals that might be connected to the carbon? Bilge pumps? Often bilge pumps are “always” on even when the main power switches are off.
I'm wondering if Seawind is picking up part of, or all the bill on this? At least helping since you did all the work. Your boat is not that old and if it is carbon, would be a design flaw. Silver lining........all the rig is brand new to go with the new sail..........Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 See you next time. ✨ 🌊 💨 ⛵️ 🏝️ 👙 🌞 ✨
Is there a light or a bilge pump circuit in that bow locker? Carbon cloth does conduct, but I would be more concerned with finding the source of the current. There is a cabin or head on the other side of that bow locker bulkhead. I would check in there too.
Thank you for your tips!! There is a light in the locker and there is a cabin aft to it. If the current comes from a 12v circuit on the locker or the other side, should it disappear when I shut the batteries and on dead ship?
@@HarborsUnknown it should, but it sounds like you have a circuit that bypasses the cutoff switch. Even if the lights don't go on, there could be a bad connection or some stripped wire passing current into the hull.
That is the $1 million question!! The SW shipwright is coming in April to sort it out. . At least now the rig has no voltage. Nagging question in the back of our minds 😬🫤🤔
Great point, the boat is 3 years old, warranty on rigging by the rigging manufacturer is one year. Little things you overlook when you buy a new boat. 🤣
No, sorry carbon is a (very good) conductor, not a semiconductor. You were right the first time. This is why it is used in batteries, for example. The level of conductivity in CF on the other hand varies depending on the exact composition - it ranges from a conductivity comparable to conductive metals to a fairly good insulator. If you do not know the specs on the carbon fibre used in your boat you might use your meter to test the material.
Not a fan of PVC covers on shrouds, as you cannot inspect them, plus they could actually trap water (or worse, salt water). Also, I am probably being cynical (I usually am) but it feels like papering over the cracks. I would be questioning quality of steel and thinking about 19 wire vs compacted strand. Two years (if I have that right), regardless of errant currents, feels like a very short life-span (especially if your Zincs have been regularly replaced and inspected).
Thank you for the clarification! This is well above my head! 😂😂 the electrician from SW is coming in April to sort this out and hopefully be more specific than me!!
We added spacers at the bottom of the PBC cover to let the water drain more freely but I am also skeptical about the covers. We inspect and replace zincs religiously 😊
I’m confused by your methodology/terminology. You seem to be measuring current in volts, when it should be some form of amperage (amps, milliamps). Voltage is electrical potential, but it doesn’t necessarily mean any current is flowing. Would you mind clarifying?
Thank you for the question. I am following the instructions from the electrician at SW. there is a voltage differential between the boat and the ground (water) apparently it would be close to 0 but we have some. In April when the electrician comes we will have a test done by a real professional 😊 thank you for watching and for your comment
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Sorry about your rigging issues, but so glad you two are proactive in finding these issues BEFORE any catastrophic failures. Fair Winds. Cheers🥂
😊😊 thank you so much!! We feel very fortunate overall 🤩
This kind of mysterious problem occurs but no one can resolve.
Very smart for you guys to manage this complicated situation. I can see you are on the right track ! Fingers crossed!
It is a tricky one! Thanks so much for watching Hiro!!
B.O.A.T.....Bring-Out-Another-Thousand.
Hope you're nicely tucked away in the Marquesas Islands. It's been a very active cyclone season so far, with another one about to form this weekend.
Cheers for another wonderful video. Looking forward to seeing you sailing again.
Nicely tucked in Fatu Hiva enjoying pompelmus😊. With inflation it’s now BOATT (ten thousand)😬 Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Nice video. The stray current mystery is a good lesson on how to track this down and is interesting how it can cause problems with the rig. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Hopefully when the shipwright from Seawind comes on board we will find the source! 🧐!! Thank you for watching 😊
I'm all caught up! Now I've got to wait for the next installment like everyone else! What an adventure!
Wow! Thank you so much😊
once again great after sales support from Seawind. Talking about a wild goose chase - trying to source the stray current.
Yes! Seawind was very helpful in the whole process. Thanks for watching!
it would be great to know if they had a reference text - some to refer to - when we are inevitably in the same situation. again thankyou - and a really good result for you yacht and the people who sail in her
@@HarborsUnknown
nicola tesla said in his colorado resarch that per every meter elevation there is 100volt potential difference. so if the mast is 20 m it means 2000volt. so good grounding from top to the sea is important. an idea could be like this.. a small cupper ball and cupper rod with wire ( long battery cable size) down to either sb or port and contact with water. the alu mast has more resistans than an cupper wire so electrical path will go thru less resistance. it also can help in direct lightingstrike. if an earthfault breaker disconnect both batteryterminals ..these earfaultbreakers react so fast that ligthning goes thru cupper rod..wire..sea instead the mast, thru electronics onboard. air is conductive and a salty evironment is also conductive. maybe this make any sense to you. i was a ship repairman ( merchant marine) i think you are doing good out there :) bestfrom björn sweden.
Wow!! That’s science stuff!!! Love the explanation. Thank you, when the SW shipwright comes on board in April we will show him your comment. For us this is way above our heads. We appreciate your comment and thanks for watching!
I want to encourage you on your incredible RUclips channel that has captured my heart and kept me glued to the screen for hours. From the very first video to the latest upload, as a dynamic duo, you have impressed me with exceptional content, impeccable videography, and seamless storytelling.
What sets this channel apart is the attention to detail that is evident in every video. The audio quality is always on point, and the editing is nothing short of brilliant. It's clear that you pour their heart and soul into every aspect of the channel, always striving for excellence. And let me tell you, it shows!
As I delved deeper into your content, I couldn't help but notice the reflective writing style and keen observations of your travels. It's like being on a journey with you, allowing me to experience the beauty and wonder of each destination through your eyes. And with Kristen's background in advertising shining through, your videos are visually stunning and captivating from start to finish.
But what truly sets you apart as a couple is a genuine and down-to-earth attitude. Fabio's positive problem-solving approach is an absolute delight, and his cooking segments are a true treat for the senses. There's no trace of ego here, which is refreshing in a world where self-importance often takes center stage, especially in Fabio’s prior profession.
Despite facing unexpected repairs along the way, some of which added delays or, in the case of the autopilot, significant effort, your positive outlook on life and ability to overcome challenges with grace and resilience is truly inspiring. It's refreshing to see a focus on finding solutions rather than dwelling on frustrations or placing blame. Your upbeat and can-do attitude is a breath of fresh air in a world that can sometimes feel overwhelming.
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement, you have truly touched our hearts. This is the best comment we’ve ever received. We do put a lot of effort into the videos in the hopes that they entertain and provide value but we never really know how they’re received so thank you for letting us know you enjoy them. 😍
I'm so happy for you guys by addressing this issues and provide a very detailed explanation as possible. Stay safe and happy sailing.🙏💝🙏
Thank you! We’re so glad you enjoyed the video!! 😊
So glad you found and fixed the problems with your rigging. An ounce of prevention . . . . Safe travels ❤
Yes, an ounce of prevention goes a long way! Thank you!!
Glad you found that issue! Enjoy! Give Yoda a hug from Wyoming!
Thank you Pat!! Yoda is loving hugs and we delivered for you 🤩😊
So I am happy that you found the issue before major damage occurred. Wait replacing rigging which should last at least 10 years is major damage in my book. I am not happy with the answers so far and will wait to see the resolution of this issue. I still think that you guys need to find the source of this current very soon. I am not trying to blame anyone just want to see the issue eliminated completely. Even if you re-bed the stantion that current has to be coming from somewhere. Maybe I am wrong but I think it needs to be well understood and documented. That way the state of the art boat building can be advanced.
We’re also looking forward to getting to the bottom of this. The Seawind shipwright, who is also an electrician, is coming to take care of a few things on the boat in May and this is one them. Thanks for watching!
Well done for managing this whole process so calmly!
I'm sure that it hasn't been without a lot of stress, but you do seem to have managed to remain calm and carry on so well.
Such good fortune to have bought a new sail, which led you to discover what could have been a disastrous situation if gone unrevealed!
Great catch - safer boat with new rigging, so go fly that kite!
🤩🤩thank you so much! You hit the nail on the head! We consider ourselves very fortunate and we have to look at minor setbacks such as this for what they are, “broken stuff” while we are surrounded by beautiful scenery, wonderful friends and a whole lot of viewers and supporters like you!! Thank you😊😊😊
@@HarborsUnknown 🥰
Shocking Revelation. but you tracked it down and have it sorted. Fair Winds 😎
Thank you Darrell!! Eventually we will have to re-bed the stanchions but SW is sending a shipwright in April to sort it out! 😊😊
Wow! Maybe a blessing in disguise. The electrolysis is concerning. I've had to chase this myself on two of my previous boats. It can be quite damaging. Super glad you may have found this issue. Or at least isolated it. Talk about a needle in a haystack..... Happy to see ya'll back in the saddle.
It is definitely a needle in a haystack but hopefully we’ve isolated it! We’ll re-bed the stanchion in April/May. Hopefully that will resolve the issue but if not we’ll resume troubleshooting. Thanks for watching!
It’s a little worrying how destructive electrolysis can be , I’ve seen other channels show sail drives that have been almost destroyed by that bit of stray current, especially when connected to shore power for an extended period. But what you’ve shown I’d say is quite subtle damage , which makes it more worrying . Lucky that you’ve found it and got it sorted , so you can go back out and play 😃🤣🍻🥂
Yes, this was concerning because we could have easily missed the issue but thankfully the rigging was replaced before anything happened and we should be able to get the stanchion re-bedded in May. We constantly monitor our zincs on the sail drives to make sure they’re ok. Thanks so much for watching & your continuous support Dave! 😊🍻
Well done guys good work and great attitude. Seawind needs to sort this out for you at there expense, rigging included.
Thanks so much! Seawind is sending a shipwright to help finalize the solution to the stray current.
Interesting video. Good luck 😘
Thank you Mom! 😊😊
Glad you caught it early! Good luck!
🤩thank you 😊
I'm sure its a lot more expensive but I've heard lots of great things about composite rigging. Obviously carbon fiber can't conduct electricity and can't corrode. I've seen/heard of people replacing braided lifelines with dyneema lifelines. That would also isolate the current to that pulpit.
Absolutely!! Composite rigging is probably the way to go. A bit more expensive and at this time no budget for it. We just replaced what was broken, but in the future we are considering Deneen’s lifelines and composite rigging. Even the stanchions could be composite. Thank you for watching 😊
BTW m niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice work you guys ‼️ Seems like you kept your cool with all the issues. Love how you handle challenges.🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
😂😂😂 thank you! We try to keep our cool, it’s not stress that kills us, it’s our reaction to it 😂. Our friend, nicknamed the “wizard of Wall Street” says-: it’s only stuff, it’s not health, love, relationships, friendships. It’s only stuff.
With my vast and extensive knowledge of 'lectricity (not!), I suspect a chafed wire where the navlight passes down the stanchion and thru the deck. Glad you found out about it though, not sure I would have had a rigger recheck the stuff after you just did a few months ago, or maybe it's been longer.
Last check was in Linton Bay before crossing the Panama Canal. It was rather serendipitous but we had been talking about flying a winged spinnaker without main and all the pressure on the rig… so we were a bit over cautious. I am sure that the stia to be continued… 🤫😐😬
That's called preventative maintenance I think you do a wonderful job thank you for sharing those beautiful smiles I enjoyed the episode and will see you next week
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I was transfixed! Every video is a learning experience.
😍🤩😍 thank you 😊!!
Very Informative, You are a Great Couple and We Love Your Videos, Best Regards From Dominican Republic ⛵🌞
We’re so glad you enjoy the videos!! Thanks for watching! We’ve visited Dominican Republic and loved it. Hopefully one day we’ll sail there!
I really like your videos.
Thanks Tammy!!🤩😍 We really appreciate it!
Great boat good content but really all boat maintenance, seems like alot has gone wrong but you are using this boat 100% and using her hard , and constantly, this is boating life looking forward to more
You got that right!! We are surrounded by friends in beautiful anchorages who, just like us, spend a great deal of time on boat maintenance. 😊😊 reality of boat life!!
I’m wondering if you are picking up a stray from a nearby boat?
Interesting question, need to check again at anchor 🤫
@@HarborsUnknown If you were picking up stray current from another boat it would not just be passing current to the port bow pulpit.
Thank you!! Good point, we are just navigating uncharted waters, when it comes to electricity we are a bit clueless. Thankfully Seawind is sending an electrician to help us sort this out 😊
Interesting… given your hypothesis of the carbon conducting to the pulpit, even if you re-bed the pulpit that still means somehow the voltage is getting to the carbon. Do you have other interior metals that might be connected to the carbon? Bilge pumps? Often bilge pumps are “always” on even when the main power switches are off.
You are 100% correct, our bilges are on a breaker. It will a detective work for the Seawind electrician when he is coming on in April! 😊
I'm wondering if Seawind is picking up part of, or all the bill on this? At least helping since you did all the work. Your boat is not that old and if it is carbon, would be a design flaw. Silver lining........all the rig is brand new to go with the new sail..........Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 See you next time. ✨ 🌊 💨 ⛵️ 🏝️ 👙 🌞 ✨
😂 when the SW shipwright comes we will have a final answer to the reason for electrolysis. The jury is pending 😊. Thanks to watching 🤩
Is there a light or a bilge pump circuit in that bow locker? Carbon cloth does conduct, but I would be more concerned with finding the source of the current. There is a cabin or head on the other side of that bow locker bulkhead. I would check in there too.
Thank you for your tips!! There is a light in the locker and there is a cabin aft to it. If the current comes from a 12v circuit on the locker or the other side, should it disappear when I shut the batteries and on dead ship?
@@HarborsUnknown it should, but it sounds like you have a circuit that bypasses the cutoff switch. Even if the lights don't go on, there could be a bad connection or some stripped wire passing current into the hull.
I believe you are probably correct. Hopefully the electrician from Seawind will be able to isolate the problem when he comes in April
Interesting episode, and great debugging! I wonder what's charging the carbon.
That is the $1 million question!! The SW shipwright is coming in April to sort it out. . At least now the rig has no voltage. Nagging question in the back of our minds 😬🫤🤔
That boat aint that old hope is still under warranty like aint the rigging spoda last like 10 to 15 yrs
Great point, the boat is 3 years old, warranty on rigging by the rigging manufacturer is one year. Little things you overlook when you buy a new boat. 🤣
No, sorry carbon is a (very good) conductor, not a semiconductor. You were right the first time. This is why it is used in batteries, for example. The level of conductivity in CF on the other hand varies depending on the exact composition - it ranges from a conductivity comparable to conductive metals to a fairly good insulator. If you do not know the specs on the carbon fibre used in your boat you might use your meter to test the material.
Not a fan of PVC covers on shrouds, as you cannot inspect them, plus they could actually trap water (or worse, salt water). Also, I am probably being cynical (I usually am) but it feels like papering over the cracks. I would be questioning quality of steel and thinking about 19 wire vs compacted strand. Two years (if I have that right), regardless of errant currents, feels like a very short life-span (especially if your Zincs have been regularly replaced and inspected).
Thank you for the clarification! This is well above my head! 😂😂 the electrician from SW is coming in April to sort this out and hopefully be more specific than me!!
We added spacers at the bottom of the PBC cover to let the water drain more freely but I am also skeptical about the covers. We inspect and replace zincs religiously 😊
Current is the measurement of amps and voltage is the measurement of electrical pressure
Thank you!! We are not very versed with electricity terminology! 😊
I’m confused by your methodology/terminology. You seem to be measuring current in volts, when it should be some form of amperage (amps, milliamps). Voltage is electrical potential, but it doesn’t necessarily mean any current is flowing. Would you mind clarifying?
Thank you for the question. I am following the instructions from the electrician at SW. there is a voltage differential between the boat and the ground (water) apparently it would be close to 0 but we have some. In April when the electrician comes we will have a test done by a real professional 😊 thank you for watching and for your comment