@@hida_berserker - there is no 'the' 5/5, there are quite a few good options; 4th column alone has Kill Clip or Headseeker for PvP, Frenzy or Headstone for PvE, Golden Tricorn or Headstone for both.
@@hida_berserker - aye, I gathered that I'm very much nitpicking; there is very rarely a singular best thing in most games it depends on the actual content, and can also be subjective such as how much stability some like.
The real fun roll with Psi Hermetic is getting Headstone because the Wild Card bolts it drops can destroy the crystal for a Stasis-Dragonfly style effect with shatter damage.
And with this seasons artifact, will slow nearby enemies. Ive gotten plenty of instances where a target is slowed & cant do anything to escape the 2 burst.
Autumn Wind with perpetual/ headseeker. One of my go-tos for rapid fire frames. Lodbrok-C the broke man's Defiant Abyss lol, Target Lock, dynamic sway or perpetual to circumvent the crappy reload, stability and handling. Symmetry: with the incoming buff of eddy current built in and the slight buff to stability and handling. Love running it with a Boudica-C side arm: moving target/ Swash which can 3 tap with 5 stacks. Craftable Perpetualis: keep away target lock.
Phyllotactic Sprial is being slept on, you can craft Under Over and Head Seeker together making it possible to two burst even with overshields or healing rift.
All of these are def underused *but* I feel compelled to point out that because they are world drops they are very difficult to get a good roll on. Yes, some are available in the lost sectors but it's still an unforgiving grind because of the perk availability (too many options)
DFP put out a video on Outlast the other day and that thing SLAYS. Easy to focus a decent roll at the sonar station. I settled on feeding frenzy / kill clip. So I decided to try my Jurassic Green I kept for no good reason and it performed pretty much the same. Dust off those old 0-kill pulses you kept! They’re sneaky good!
YES OLD STERLING!!! Have been using Smallbore-Accurized---Slideways-Harmony---Range Masterwork so 70 range on this thing. Grabbed this roll from Banshee a LONG time ago. Sterlings base recoil pattern feels INCREDIBLE compared to Perpetualis' base recoil pattern. LOVE that you brought attention to my baby!
I'd add the Age Old Bond, legendary auto rifle. It looks cool, has a very good range stat, and is so smooth. I think people are ignoring it because the stability stat is pretty low. It's a slow firing auto rifle, so it doesn't need as much stability as a fast firing one. The recoil direction is straight up and predictable, and it just melts at ranges more suited to pulses and fast firing scout rifles.
I've been made fun of by my clan for years for loving it. I have soooo many kills on that thing. Surplus absolutely transforms it into feeling incredible.
My Ogma PR6 never fails me... tried Graviton Lance in a few matches yesterday and it was actually fun... I never used it in PvP before, but I might play with it some more!
My favorites are: Nightshade w/ headseeker. Nameless midnight w/ zen moment & Vorpal. Brya's Love with keep away & precision instrument. There are a few others. I used to have a very nice Black Scorpion that had over 2k PvP kills with but it got sunsetted.
Cold denial is a high impact frame pulse rifle that can roll head seeker and it has 14 zoom which is what most hand cannons have. it’s obtainable, but not readily available.
Old sterling can roll with perfect float and frenzy, which have the same proc as the origin trait. So just from participating you have 3 perks bumping up your stats and damage. Also, Ogma is the solar version of stay frosty and is super slept on. Perks suck so heating / dragonfly will have to do but i have 1500 kills on mine and it pairs great with travelers chosen.
Noticed the absence of both a smg and a sidearm on this list. Def look into forensoc nightmare and empirical evidence. Both craftable with weapons obtainable on the throne world. Both have been sneaky good for a long long time. Encore on both and kill clip on FN and adagio on EE.
@evanflynn4680 you can check the focusing daily, the gunsmith engrams and some glimmer and you can focus it. Mine is Polygonal, HighCal, Pugilist, and Swash. Love it.
@GluttonyIsMySin I'm looking for one with range finder so I can use it a little further from shotgun range. Love them with high cal, ricochet or armour piercing.
@evanflynn4680 ah... it doesn't roll with range finder... but extended barrel and ricochet rounds can throw you to almost 80.. and then maybe moving target with swashbuckler? I like swashbuckler because of the damage stacks... and of you melee with it out in a heated moment you get the stacks. It hits hard too for it's frame type.. the other two sidearms, Veist Redback and Suros Fioritura aren't kinetic primaries but they roll killing wind... I'd still go with the Boudica though.. personally.
Ros Arago - basically a void Summoner. Can roll with the goated Dynamic Sway + Onslaught/Golden Tricorn combo. It's a world drop. Relentless - 340 Pulse from Prophecy. Keep Away/Snapshot + Headseeker, or Rapid hit + Zen Moment for extreme anti-flinch capabilities. Ultra clean sights. Prophecy will be farmable this next week, and it drops from the first boss. Combined Action, 120 HC. Zen Moment + Adagio, you can 2-tap. World drop. Empirical Evidence , Witchqueen DLC is free for everybody right now , so get one and craft it with Encore + Adagio. And also as many people mentioned it, Senuna. She's a beast, small but feisty.
Been using a Lonesome sidearm with hammer-forged barrel, riccochet rounds, Zen moment, kill clip, and range masterwork. With the right roll, this beast is insane.
Agreed across the board. I’d add Glissando- my perfect float, cascade point roll puts in serious work, in pvp and pve, though it’s not even the best roll on paper. It makes me scratch my head how hard it slays compared to others of same archetype. Perhaps it really is a god roll and im just reading the perk descriptions wrong. Oh and rat king crew for life. My sweetie is only getting sweeter too 😃
2:31 STAY WITH YOU TEAM AND CAPTURE THE POINT TV!!! MUH CLIP!! 3:34 HOW DARE YOU! 3:57 THATS WHAT YOU GET! 5:55 HOW DARE YOU! I KNEW YOU HAD KILL CLIP! 7:27 IM BEING BULLIED! ggs good video. I love stay frosty went on some crazy kill streaks with it when I was using stasis lock. very fun kill chaining pulse. I do not like Psy. every single one I get has some wonky recoil pattern, but maybe 75 is the sweet spot. Grav lance is one of my favorites. Creating mini black holes inside people that blow them up and cause others to explode is S tier Exotic making. Nox is neat. but it goes where conditional goes. prob why we dont see it more. Also non focusable world drop. Havent got a good enough old sterling to try because again its a world drop. the combo you have seems fun though.
Disparity. Craftable aggressive burst pulse from season of the seraph. Right up front I'll say that yes, it does not have as good base stats as Blast Furnace, especially in the range dept, although it does have slightly higher base handling. There are two main things it's got going for it though. Firstly it can be crafted with the highly sought after trait combo of rapid hit & headseeker, enhanced of course, and naturally you can have your choice of barrel & mag perks. Secondly it has the underrated origin trait "ambush" which provides a +20 to both range & handling as long as you have not dealt or received damage for at least 5 seconds. In short, if that god roll Blast Furnace is eluding you, look no further than Disparity to fill that slot in your arsenal. Oh & it's stasis too so all the stuff TV said about Psi Hermetic also applies to Disparity. EDIT Forgot to mention that the ambush origin trait deactivates two seconds after either dealing or receiving damage, which is obviously more than enough for most crucible duels.
This might be slightly off topic but, I have a sunset Bungie roll on the Ringing Nail..I unleashed it in 6's and fragged out. If you have one give it a try.
Relentless, the high impact Strand pulse from Prophecy. I have one with Rapid Hit and Moving Target. It synchronizes well with Strand builds. I never see anyone using it.
PSI is so slept on i have an encore and headstone roll that’s amazing and just is so perfect for stasis builds in pvp bro trust me you dont need headseeker or rapid hit
Old Sterling is _really_ nice. The one I masterworked has arrowhead brake, rewind rounds and a recoil of 93. Damn thing is like a laser beam, it doesn't even move.
I have Encore, kill clip on the psi hermatic and i think i might like it better than my messenger (adept) with 3k kills on it. That pulse is an amazing little surprise for pulse lovers. I think it has to do with the scope and it being an old gun model that makes me think of d1
Has anyone said Stars in Shadow yet? Yes? No? Doesn't matter imma say it again or for the first time, surplus, headseeker. Doesn't matter anything else, well not to me, but this is an oldie but goldie in my book!
Boudica-c sidearm mine has hammer forge ricochet round moving target and mkc it's a 260 precision frame Coronach-22 600rpm solar auto Mine has zen moment target lock arrowhead and armor piercing rounds this thing shoots ropes
Chattering bone is one of my go to pulse rifles. It feels so incredibly clean to use in PvP and has a fair share of good perks. Funnily enough the one I use is an old chattering with no intrinsic trait and it still does work. Plus it feels great to use
I have 2 psi hermetic v rolls that i got by pure luck...one has ext barrel, flared mag, encore, headstone w/ handling mw which i use fir my warlock pvp stasis build with osio gloves The 2nd roll i have for general use has ham forge rif, tac mag, encore, kc, W/range m
First three weapons are slept on because they are world drops, meaning most people don't have good rolls of them. I've only gotten a good pve roll of Nox, and no good rolls of Psi and Old Sterling. I use Perpetualis craftable 600 auto in place of Sterling. I didn't grind Dawning so I don't have that
Bro. Stay frosty cooks, also nightshade a strand light frame is just as good. Can run with arrowhead, ricochet, under pressure and kill clip or headseeker.
The persuader and locus locutus snipers, discord and opening shot is too fun to pass on in 6s, not as good in comp due to ammo economy being better but very fun guns no one talked about at all
Old sterling is garbage, was killed by it once from the side. Once. I remember because I said, wow, Old Sterling. Checked out his roll, something something adagio
I would add the Nightshade pulse rifle from Season of the Witch. The roll I have on mine is Arrowhead Break, Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, Kill Clip and a Range Masterwork. I'll be honest, I haven't used it much, but I got a little over 300 kills with this weapon and especially with the Nadir Focus Origin Trait on. Why not give the Nightshade pulse a try since it's also a Lightweight Frame Pulse. You can focus it from the Recovered Red War Weapons at the Ritual Table.
Gnawing hunger is still a nasty 600 with zen kill clip and you don’t have to play trials for it. Just chill and play some gambit. Win or lose you still get engrams you can focus for gnawing hunger
I think chattering bone is being slept on. Started using it since the buff to lightweights and headseeker + kill clip feels amazing with kill clip 2 tapping now. It also just feels really easy to aim once I got used to aiming with it's weird reticle.
I tried a darkest before I had on my vault with hammer forge, flared magwell, heal clip and headseeker and it just felt incredible after the buffs they gave to rapid frames I was performing way better with it than my outlast with keepaway + kill clip but it might be because I had full bore on it to put range at 60 so the stability cut may be hurting it a lot. Third axiom is also a monster now, got ricochet, sildeshot/zen moment and headseeker on mine and it snipes from so far away with slideshot
Psi Hermetic to me has been an awful weapon to use. I wanted it to work well so I didn't have to always run the messenger, but it was just so inconsistent. Missing bursts at the same range where I'd just two bursted someone else (had KC on it for 2nd engagement so should have been a guarantee). Insta delete for me now and not gonna keep a roll in the vault.
I would 100% add exalted truth adept or otherwise. Ive got a nasty 5/5 adept one with corkscrew, accurized range mw adept range and rangefinder and eye of storm. Even with range finder being power crept if u have a high range stat (mine is an insane 85) then u get the most benifit from rangefinder and can hit some crazy range crits. The origin triat is probly top 3 for dueling as u can have a huge handling and flinch resist from just a reload. Ive been cooking with this thing and u can use conditional with it. I NEVER see this in crucible anymore so wild. 😂😂🎉🎉
TV you need to get your hands on a good/god roll Nightshade. It is an absolutely beauty to use in the crucible. I have one with Polygonal Rifling, Flared Magwell, Enlightened Action and Headseeker. All of this combined with the origin trait Nadir Focus makes it a very deadly 450 pulse. I wish you could use mine and post a video. That would be awesome. I suck at PvP (1.36k/d) but I surprised myself getting a 32.0 efficiency in a 6v6. This gun is very slept on bro.
I have a psi hermetic roll with moving target/encore and headseaker but for some reason I have a harder time controlling it over the messenger. I also have that slide ways adagio old sterling and that things a beast but the adept summoner with a stability mod still feels like an absolute laser to me.
Ima be honest i only recently realized within the last like 6? 7 months? that graviton wasn’t a scout with high recoil,and ive been playing since destiny 2 began and also played non stop destiny 1 alpha to end of game
Perpetualis with Enhanced Golden Tricorn and Enhanced Keep Away, Scalar Potential with Enhanced Keep away and Enhanced Headseeker. never stopped using Graviton lance.
Just deleted a nox with kickstart and fragile focus today…. Not sure if I’m still that bothered… feel like that archetype is brilliant in 1 v 1 but you’re stuck with such a long charge up for the second shot. I’ll stick with my adaptive.
So 3 world drops that most getting lucky to drop or cant reliably farm LS for (which kinda sucks to do regardless because RNG sucks), 1 event gun and 1 exotic. Last one being the reasonably easy to get. Regarding the rest its pretty easy to know why they arent used
I mean, the main reason no-one is using these is because the first 3 are world drops which are hard to farm, stay frosty is an event exlusive (not to mention lightweight pulses are really meh) and graviton's perk is more pve focused.
Summoner has the least amount of bloom out of every auto in the game, so it’s better than that strand auto for that fact alone, not even mentioning the better perks of its older and newer variants. BUT, the strand auto with slide ways and adagio goes crazy
People are sleeping on the Psi Hermetic because you have more chance of winning the lottery than getting a decent roll on one.
i havent wont the lottery yet, but I have the 5/5 godroll. Unlucky me.
@@hida_berserker - there is no 'the' 5/5, there are quite a few good options; 4th column alone has Kill Clip or Headseeker for PvP, Frenzy or Headstone for PvE, Golden Tricorn or Headstone for both.
@@MGShadow1989 agreed, i guess I meant "my 5/5" godroll hehe
@@hida_berserker - aye, I gathered that I'm very much nitpicking; there is very rarely a singular best thing in most games it depends on the actual content, and can also be subjective such as how much stability some like.
@@MGShadow1989out of all of those the only one you’d want for PvP is headseeker lmfao
The real fun roll with Psi Hermetic is getting Headstone because the Wild Card bolts it drops can destroy the crystal for a Stasis-Dragonfly style effect with shatter damage.
And with this seasons artifact, will slow nearby enemies. Ive gotten plenty of instances where a target is slowed & cant do anything to escape the 2 burst.
Good shout
Positive Outlook, the Vanguard void AR. Zen and Kill Clip. Chef kiss.
Yes! I have the same roll.
Absolutely I have the same roll it cooks
I've gotten so man damn elemental capacitor rolls. My luck has been so bad with this gun due to its 20 perks in both columns lol
It’s because 450’s are broken. Nerf incoming.
@@ryandavis8658They’ve already been nerfed
I can't hear Old Sterling and not immediately go "SCOTT STERLING!!!!"
Now I can't.
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Autumn Wind with perpetual/ headseeker. One of my go-tos for rapid fire frames.
Lodbrok-C the broke man's Defiant Abyss lol, Target Lock, dynamic sway or perpetual to circumvent the crappy reload, stability and handling.
Symmetry: with the incoming buff of eddy current built in and the slight buff to stability and handling. Love running it with a Boudica-C side arm: moving target/ Swash which can 3 tap with 5 stacks.
Craftable Perpetualis: keep away target lock.
Phyllotactic Sprial is being slept on, you can craft Under Over and Head Seeker together making it possible to two burst even with overshields or healing rift.
Phyllotactic Spiral is the real pulse rifle that's being slept on.
That being said, my only problem is getting the last red border to drop 😭
All of these are def underused *but* I feel compelled to point out that because they are world drops they are very difficult to get a good roll on. Yes, some are available in the lost sectors but it's still an unforgiving grind because of the perk availability (too many options)
Almost the same reply i just gave. Pretty easy to know why they arent used
DFP put out a video on Outlast the other day and that thing SLAYS. Easy to focus a decent roll at the sonar station. I settled on feeding frenzy / kill clip. So I decided to try my Jurassic Green I kept for no good reason and it performed pretty much the same. Dust off those old 0-kill pulses you kept! They’re sneaky good!
YES OLD STERLING!!! Have been using Smallbore-Accurized---Slideways-Harmony---Range Masterwork so 70 range on this thing. Grabbed this roll from Banshee a LONG time ago. Sterlings base recoil pattern feels INCREDIBLE compared to Perpetualis' base recoil pattern. LOVE that you brought attention to my baby!
i like it with perfect float + adagio
@@max73916 oh damn...would love to have that roll!!!
The BXR 55 battler is absolutely nasty you have to try it out in pvp
Definitely! It's one of my favorite weapons and is always fun to use!
What’s the pvp build for it?
I'd add the Age Old Bond, legendary auto rifle. It looks cool, has a very good range stat, and is so smooth. I think people are ignoring it because the stability stat is pretty low. It's a slow firing auto rifle, so it doesn't need as much stability as a fast firing one. The recoil direction is straight up and predictable, and it just melts at ranges more suited to pulses and fast firing scout rifles.
Stars in shadows is also an excellent pulse that most people ignore.
Workhorse.
I kept several of these with QuickDraw, kill clip, disruption break, and frenzy. Solid gun!
Abysmal stats
@@kenrocker7427 I have Outlaw and headseeker on the one i kept. Works quite nice
I've been made fun of by my clan for years for loving it. I have soooo many kills on that thing. Surplus absolutely transforms it into feeling incredible.
Love these videos. Would love a “what should I focus all these dang vendor tokens on?” vid 😊
imo
Syncopation-53 with Zen/Headseeker is a cheat code of a gun, so slept on and so, so good. Best PVP pulse in the game arguably.
Can it 2 burst?
Nightshade is really underrated. Keep away, headseeker and nadir focus origin trait is so good together
My Ogma PR6 never fails me... tried Graviton Lance in a few matches yesterday and it was actually fun... I never used it in PvP before, but I might play with it some more!
Graviton is nasty in pvp. It's hilarious when there are several people around too, chaos!
My favorites are: Nightshade w/ headseeker. Nameless midnight w/ zen moment & Vorpal. Brya's Love with keep away & precision instrument. There are a few others. I used to have a very nice Black Scorpion that had over 2k PvP kills with but it got sunsetted.
Got a keep away/headseeker nightshade I break out once a week or so that just feels wonderful
Mine is Enlightened Action/Headseeker. I can barely use anything else.
Tarraxipos with explosive payload/gut shot straight, can also get no distractions and box breathing. That gun slaps
Cold denial is a high impact frame pulse rifle that can roll head seeker and it has 14 zoom which is what most hand cannons have. it’s obtainable, but not readily available.
Old sterling can roll with perfect float and frenzy, which have the same proc as the origin trait. So just from participating you have 3 perks bumping up your stats and damage.
Also, Ogma is the solar version of stay frosty and is super slept on. Perks suck so heating / dragonfly will have to do but i have 1500 kills on mine and it pairs great with travelers chosen.
Noticed the absence of both a smg and a sidearm on this list. Def look into forensoc nightmare and empirical evidence. Both craftable with weapons obtainable on the throne world. Both have been sneaky good for a long long time. Encore on both and kill clip on FN and adagio on EE.
Boudica-C is the most slept on weapon in PVP. Love it!
Ah yes, the space s&w shield.
I look for it when Banshee-44 sells it with the Hakke guns.
@evanflynn4680 you can check the focusing daily, the gunsmith engrams and some glimmer and you can focus it. Mine is Polygonal, HighCal, Pugilist, and Swash. Love it.
@GluttonyIsMySin I'm looking for one with range finder so I can use it a little further from shotgun range. Love them with high cal, ricochet or armour piercing.
@evanflynn4680 ah... it doesn't roll with range finder... but extended barrel and ricochet rounds can throw you to almost 80.. and then maybe moving target with swashbuckler? I like swashbuckler because of the damage stacks... and of you melee with it out in a heated moment you get the stacks. It hits hard too for it's frame type.. the other two sidearms, Veist Redback and Suros Fioritura aren't kinetic primaries but they roll killing wind... I'd still go with the Boudica though.. personally.
Ros Arago - basically a void Summoner. Can roll with the goated Dynamic Sway + Onslaught/Golden Tricorn combo. It's a world drop.
Relentless - 340 Pulse from Prophecy. Keep Away/Snapshot + Headseeker, or Rapid hit + Zen Moment for extreme anti-flinch capabilities. Ultra clean sights. Prophecy will be farmable this next week, and it drops from the first boss.
Combined Action, 120 HC. Zen Moment + Adagio, you can 2-tap. World drop.
Empirical Evidence , Witchqueen DLC is free for everybody right now , so get one and craft it with Encore + Adagio.
And also as many people mentioned it, Senuna. She's a beast, small but feisty.
Third axiom. Zen ad HS.... It's so crispy
Been using a Lonesome sidearm with hammer-forged barrel, riccochet rounds, Zen moment, kill clip, and range masterwork. With the right roll, this beast is insane.
Agreed across the board. I’d add Glissando- my perfect float, cascade point roll puts in serious work, in pvp and pve, though it’s not even the best roll on paper. It makes me scratch my head how hard it slays compared to others of same archetype. Perhaps it really is a god roll and im just reading the perk descriptions wrong.
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2:31 STAY WITH YOU TEAM AND CAPTURE THE POINT TV!!! MUH CLIP!!
3:34 HOW DARE YOU!
3:57 THATS WHAT YOU GET!
5:55 HOW DARE YOU! I KNEW YOU HAD KILL CLIP!
7:27 IM BEING BULLIED!
ggs good video.
I love stay frosty went on some crazy kill streaks with it when I was using stasis lock. very fun kill chaining pulse.
I do not like Psy. every single one I get has some wonky recoil pattern, but maybe 75 is the sweet spot.
Grav lance is one of my favorites. Creating mini black holes inside people that blow them up and cause others to explode is S tier Exotic making.
Nox is neat. but it goes where conditional goes. prob why we dont see it more. Also non focusable world drop.
Havent got a good enough old sterling to try because again its a world drop. the combo you have seems fun though.
i included that just for you haha
@TrueVanguard yea I bet you did! Lol
I came down just for these comments from @jingelhymer once I saw his ignition team wipe early in the video.
Disparity. Craftable aggressive burst pulse from season of the seraph. Right up front I'll say that yes, it does not have as good base stats as Blast Furnace, especially in the range dept, although it does have slightly higher base handling. There are two main things it's got going for it though. Firstly it can be crafted with the highly sought after trait combo of rapid hit & headseeker, enhanced of course, and naturally you can have your choice of barrel & mag perks. Secondly it has the underrated origin trait "ambush" which provides a +20 to both range & handling as long as you have not dealt or received damage for at least 5 seconds. In short, if that god roll Blast Furnace is eluding you, look no further than Disparity to fill that slot in your arsenal. Oh & it's stasis too so all the stuff TV said about Psi Hermetic also applies to Disparity.
EDIT
Forgot to mention that the ambush origin trait deactivates two seconds after either dealing or receiving damage, which is obviously more than enough for most crucible duels.
This might be slightly off topic but, I have a sunset Bungie roll on the Ringing Nail..I unleashed it in 6's and fragged out. If you have one give it a try.
I kept mine so i may give it a try. Also kept eight other Black Armory weapons so I may dust them off, too.
Senuna SI6 is absolutely absurd and criminally underrated
Yeah it's awesome. 100 stability + headseeker.
I love my vigilance wing! It is really fun to use and Is still a solid choice.
It still does the job well.
Graviton Lance probably isn't slept on. It's the 2nd most used pulse in the crucible behind blast furnace.
Relentless, the high impact Strand pulse from Prophecy. I have one with Rapid Hit and Moving Target. It synchronizes well with Strand builds. I never see anyone using it.
I use it and i love it. Also have rapid hit and moving target. Really nice to use
PSI is so slept on i have an encore and headstone roll that’s amazing and just is so perfect for stasis builds in pvp bro trust me you dont need headseeker or rapid hit
Duty Bound with zen moment dynamic sway feels really good, and it has the bayonet cool factor.
And also horrendous zoom & stats
Old Sterling is _really_ nice. The one I masterworked has arrowhead brake, rewind rounds and a recoil of 93. Damn thing is like a laser beam, it doesn't even move.
I have Encore, kill clip on the psi hermatic and i think i might like it better than my messenger (adept) with 3k kills on it. That pulse is an amazing little surprise for pulse lovers. I think it has to do with the scope and it being an old gun model that makes me think of d1
I haven’t been able to put down scalar potential all season, and it made me put down my zen moment kill clip adept horrors least
Has anyone said Stars in Shadow yet? Yes? No? Doesn't matter imma say it again or for the first time, surplus, headseeker. Doesn't matter anything else, well not to me, but this is an oldie but goldie in my book!
Finally, my vault coming back around like bell bottoms.
Boudica-c sidearm mine has hammer forge ricochet round moving target and mkc it's a 260 precision frame
Coronach-22
600rpm solar auto
Mine has zen moment target lock arrowhead and armor piercing rounds this thing shoots ropes
Ogma is my favourite weapon right now. Around 2000 kills
Chattering bone is one of my go to pulse rifles. It feels so incredibly clean to use in PvP and has a fair share of good perks. Funnily enough the one I use is an old chattering with no intrinsic trait and it still does work. Plus it feels great to use
I have 2 psi hermetic v rolls that i got by pure luck...one has ext barrel, flared mag, encore, headstone w/ handling mw which i use fir my warlock pvp stasis build with osio gloves
The 2nd roll i have for general use has ham forge rif, tac mag, encore, kc, W/range m
I’m seriously surprised you didn’t list the Stasis burst sidearm Senuna. This thing with Headseeker is an absolute killing machine!
Stars in shadow. Showrunner. Survivor epitaph. Nightshade. Servant leader. Outlast
First three weapons are slept on because they are world drops, meaning most people don't have good rolls of them. I've only gotten a good pve roll of Nox, and no good rolls of Psi and Old Sterling. I use Perpetualis craftable 600 auto in place of Sterling. I didn't grind Dawning so I don't have that
Bro. Stay frosty cooks, also nightshade a strand light frame is just as good. Can run with arrowhead, ricochet, under pressure and kill clip or headseeker.
The persuader and locus locutus snipers, discord and opening shot is too fun to pass on in 6s, not as good in comp due to ammo economy being better but very fun guns no one talked about at all
Piece of mind is always my go to pulse
Just matched up with you in Hardware Supremacy(SPUD-MUFIN). Been watching you for years now and was probably too excited to have you in my lobby
Stay frosty is a fav of mine on 6v6
I have god rolls of the 3 first guns you've recommended 😊
What content drought? Destiny's Killin it lately!
Finally, someone noticed the Old Sterling is a strand Summoner.
Old sterling is garbage, was killed by it once from the side. Once. I remember because I said, wow, Old Sterling. Checked out his roll, something something adagio
That graviton lance has been consistently beating my messenger this week in the crucible… I might have to pull it back out again
I would add the Nightshade pulse rifle from Season of the Witch. The roll I have on mine is Arrowhead Break, Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, Kill Clip and a Range Masterwork. I'll be honest, I haven't used it much, but I got a little over 300 kills with this weapon and especially with the Nadir Focus Origin Trait on. Why not give the Nightshade pulse a try since it's also a Lightweight Frame Pulse. You can focus it from the Recovered Red War Weapons at the Ritual Table.
Thought TV was about to say "Third Axiom" again 😆. Still have and use one ftw.
Moving target/kill clip on punching out is pretty fun. I prefer it over fioritura even though that can get killing wind
Gnawing hunger is still a nasty 600 with zen kill clip and you don’t have to play trials for it. Just chill and play some gambit. Win or lose you still get engrams you can focus for gnawing hunger
and wait for the time for xtra exp, because the engrams will just drop like crazy.
Different Times is one. I hit 6k kills with it and it’s origin trait makes it a monster in Hardware Control
6k in Crucible? What roll are you using, I need just 1 red boarder to fully unlock it.
@@kennydolby1379 I have Arrowhead, Ricochet, Moving Target, Headseaker with a Range MW. I like it more than any other Rapid Fire Pulse.
The only weapon on this list that I agree with you TV is really good is graviton
I think chattering bone is being slept on. Started using it since the buff to lightweights and headseeker + kill clip feels amazing with kill clip 2 tapping now. It also just feels really easy to aim once I got used to aiming with it's weird reticle.
Perfect float + frenzy old sterling with fighting lion is completely obnoxious for people to deal with using epic defenders build.
i'm basically unable to un-equip my old sterling- strand Warlock -hatchling & rewind rounds 'effing brutal!
I tried a darkest before I had on my vault with hammer forge, flared magwell, heal clip and headseeker and it just felt incredible after the buffs they gave to rapid frames I was performing way better with it than my outlast with keepaway + kill clip but it might be because I had full bore on it to put range at 60 so the stability cut may be hurting it a lot.
Third axiom is also a monster now, got ricochet, sildeshot/zen moment and headseeker on mine and it snipes from so far away with slideshot
Psi Hermetic to me has been an awful weapon to use. I wanted it to work well so I didn't have to always run the messenger, but it was just so inconsistent. Missing bursts at the same range where I'd just two bursted someone else (had KC on it for 2nd engagement so should have been a guarantee). Insta delete for me now and not gonna keep a roll in the vault.
kept confidence crafted 140 rpm hand cannon season of the witch
I would 100% add exalted truth adept or otherwise. Ive got a nasty 5/5 adept one with corkscrew, accurized range mw adept range and rangefinder and eye of storm. Even with range finder being power crept if u have a high range stat (mine is an insane 85) then u get the most benifit from rangefinder and can hit some crazy range crits. The origin triat is probly top 3 for dueling as u can have a huge handling and flinch resist from just a reload. Ive been cooking with this thing and u can use conditional with it. I NEVER see this in crucible anymore so wild. 😂😂🎉🎉
I would add gridskipper, horror's least and relentless to the list.
TV you need to get your hands on a good/god roll Nightshade. It is an absolutely beauty to use in the crucible. I have one with Polygonal Rifling, Flared Magwell, Enlightened Action and Headseeker. All of this combined with the origin trait Nadir Focus makes it a very deadly 450 pulse. I wish you could use mine and post a video. That would be awesome.
I suck at PvP (1.36k/d) but I surprised myself getting a 32.0 efficiency in a 6v6. This gun is very slept on bro.
I have a psi hermetic roll with moving target/encore and headseaker but for some reason I have a harder time controlling it over the messenger. I also have that slide ways adagio old sterling and that things a beast but the adept summoner with a stability mod still feels like an absolute laser to me.
Ima be honest i only recently realized within the last like 6? 7 months? that graviton wasn’t a scout with high recoil,and ive been playing since destiny 2 began and also played non stop destiny 1 alpha to end of game
I like Psi Hermetic, gives me a similar feeling to Stars in Shadow I also enjoy.
The best gun in the game for pvp is drang (baroque) change my mind
Love my PSI Hermetic. Have several nice rolls.
Perpetualis with Enhanced Golden Tricorn and Enhanced Keep Away, Scalar Potential with Enhanced Keep away and Enhanced Headseeker. never stopped using Graviton lance.
hard vouch for stay frosty I love that thing, chattering bone and (hear me out) nightshade are other great ones to try rn if you like the archetype
Sometime I think Datto is Vanguard and vice versa. Are they the same guy? Do you even know?
Just deleted a nox with kickstart and fragile focus today…. Not sure if I’m still that bothered… feel like that archetype is brilliant in 1 v 1 but you’re stuck with such a long charge up for the second shot. I’ll stick with my adaptive.
Breakneck is my go-to autorifle
So 3 world drops that most getting lucky to drop or cant reliably farm LS for (which kinda sucks to do regardless because RNG sucks), 1 event gun and 1 exotic. Last one being the reasonably easy to get. Regarding the rest its pretty easy to know why they arent used
The reason not alot of people use psi is most ppl don't have it TV not because they sleep on it
I just don't have anyone to play with to use my rolls on these. Solo pvp is a nightmare.
I mean, the main reason no-one is using these is because the first 3 are world drops which are hard to farm, stay frosty is an event exlusive (not to mention lightweight pulses are really meh) and graviton's perk is more pve focused.
all of these world drops are easily farmable on a set rotation in lost sectors.
@@TrueVanguard this is true! but because you have to go out of your way to farm for them is why you don't see them as much!
Summoner has the least amount of bloom out of every auto in the game, so it’s better than that strand auto for that fact alone, not even mentioning the better perks of its older and newer variants. BUT, the strand auto with slide ways and adagio goes crazy
Great video.
It's not slept on but the Last Word has never felt more right then this sandbox.
I thought Blast Furnace would replace my Psi Hermetic… it has not.
Well, they are different archetypes
@@Zurrkein terms of main kinetic slot pulse rifle on my Titan.
@@Dorian_Kellum messenger, relentless
Personally I like Elsie’s better than blast furnace. Nothing better than autumn wind tho.
I have a 5/5 nox with kickstart and underpressure which is crazy
People talk like they miss breachlight but nobody uses liminal vigil
Kept conf. Imop the best Pistol in the Game ❤
Stay Frosty. Seventh Seraph Carbine . So sticky
How you can put one of the most used weapons in all of PvP on a slept on list is beyond me
We ain't sleeping on 'em we just don't have the god rolls
The Boudica side arm is absolutely disgusting and slept on👍🏻
Nope I'm loving not seeing hand cannons on the top for nearly 10 years straight
Just wait until this guy finds out about cerberus+1
My 5 most slept on Pvp guns before watching this video. Lodbrok. Cryostesia. Psi Hermetic. Last Word (somehow) and Lumina. *press play*