Composer Reacts to Primitive Man - Scorn (REACTION & ANALYSIS)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Bryan reacts to and talks about his thoughts on Scorn
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Man, excited to see this pop up! Not an easy band to listen to, but perfect when you're in the mood.
I love listening to Primitive Man so much. It sounds like your being confronted by an existential anguish. I actually used to listen to Primitive Man almost exclusively while writing my dissertation at university as it basically acted as white noise filling my ears. No melodies for my head to latch onto and loud enough that I can't hear anything else in the room.
Primitive Man is, well, primitive... pounding, daunting, relentless.. it's definitely not your stroll in a park companion.. but you seem to get that already, and you seem to grasp what this kind of art is about.. kudos Brian
Primitive man does as their name suggests, explore the very foundational elements of humanity as a concept, really a question of what conciousness is. Its so... blurry, really, they take these floating concepts and try to pin them down, but its almost like the emotions they portray are rebelling against being put into moulds, the songs fall more and more apart as we approach the truer expression of the idea.
This song feels like an experiment really, trying to distill scorn in multiple ways but finding each unsatisfying until it finally starts to turn towards entropy once we find a satisfying measurement technique at the end.
“can we do it with a slow slam riff? No? Ok, can we do it fast? No? Ok, what if we add some harmony in the riff? No? Fuck it, we’ll just play lower and slower until something sticks.” and once we reach that conclusion every level of scorn seems unsatisfying, so we continue to just descend into meaninglessness, frustrated that the true concept of scorn can only be approximated and never fully desribed.
That's amazing! I wasn't too interested in checking out the rest of this album but now I'm quite intrigued by the concept.
@@CriticalReactions Oh, well I dont know if this is an intentional effect, I should perhaps have made that clear. This is just what I get from the band after having been a fan for a while
In this vein, but on the opposite side of the spectrum is Revenge. You should react to them.
i second this. or caveman cult
Reaction. Review. Revenge.
Such a beautiful song! Primitive Man never fail to bring a bit of sunshine into my life.
"Bringing sunshine" wouldn't be the phrase I personally chose to describe them but I'm glad they can do that for ya. :)
just a shakin lil rock n roll band from the sewers of Denver!
Really enjoyed this. Definitely my kind of music when I’m in that mood. Which I was today!
i Saw this band on several doses of acid and it was a thoroughly terrifying experience. i love the band but live and on acid? no thank you
I had a very very similar experience dropping LSD and going to see The Locust open for Gwar 🙄 I really really should have given that one more thought 😲
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Saw them live on acid too and it was a really good experience. I felt I was walking through the gates of hell, and I was feeling so calm and peaceful during the trajectory 😅
I got to glass an old enemy at their gig. Great fun!
As someone who’s mostly listened to their most recent output this is probably the fastest and catchiest song I’ve heard them put out lol I absolutely love the slow motion feel of their music
I wish more of their songs were like this
The album scorn, overall, feels faster than their more recent ones. Stretched Thin is an even faster song, and as brutal, on this album.
Should have been a part of sludge week! haha. These guys represent what the scene does pretty well. See how they work in a faster hardcore section in to an otherwise disgustingly slow song? Sludge to a tee
The only thing I’m getting so far is an excessive amount of fuzz! Haha. Had me cracking up for some reason.
For me, it was an excessive amount of catharsis.
The track had enough repetition to suck me in and lower my guard. The more spacey/atmospheric section with the dissonance paired with the pretty aggressive vocals and disgusting bass tone and feedback really got me to feel whatever stress I was feeling. It then moved into a more “held out” section which had me releasing whatever I was feeling. The turn moving into held out dissonance/feedback, for me, was the cathartic release. After that I was able to sit and enjoy.
Not quite sure if I was able to accurately explained or what I’d feel/fill in the blank if I relistened, but it happened to be what I needed today.
Thanks for your thoughts and the video Bryan!
That's an awesome explanation of your experience with the song!
I'm shocked you looked too far into this one. The obvious answer to the excessive amount of "blank" is guitar feedback. Its literally the first and last thing you hear as well as used to transition sections.
I can appreciate some of this. Idk why it reminded me of a time I was listening to White Chapel"s This is Exile album about 10 years ago. That album helped me through a time in my life. I'm guessing it's the cathartic effect it can have when feeling that level of disdain for life or life's not so happy moments and no one around you understands. I really liked your analysis and agree with your statement about exploring these feelings safely. "Fantastic track, never want to hear it again"👍
You're not the first person to bring up the idea of catharsis regarding this song. I could certainly see music like this really helping someone out if they're in a similar mood; getting that emotional link between the listener and the art.
Reminds me of Mizmor
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Also check out Morbid Evils, if ya haven't yet
This is actually their most accessible album. Please react to some song from Caustic :)
It's interesting that you say that you didn't enjoy listening to it, but you loved it. When I listen to extreme music like this, people sometimes say things like "How can find you this beautiful?". Well, I don't find it beautiful, but art doesn't have to be beautiful to be appreciated. I wouldn't call a lot Picasso paintings "beautiful", for example.
You're spot on, and that's how I approach the more extreme music that gets put in front of me. But I think it's important to remember how music is consumed in the mainstream. Music is there to feel good, to dance to, to sing along with, to cry along with. There really isn't any mainstream music that challenges people. So most people's interaction with music is extremely limited. On top of that, music education is in an abysmal state. Pretty much everyone knows who Picasso or Da Vinci is. They might not be connect an artist to their work but they know of the big art pieces: the Mona Lisa, the David, the Scream. But art music? It never gets touched on unless you take a band class, which at least where I'm from was an elective and chosen by a very small percentage of the school. So unlike painting or sculpture, most people really don't have a widely known example of artistic music to compare their music to. Well, I mean pretty much everyone knows what European Classical music is but, again, it's never the challenging works. None of the Sonorism or experimental classical works of the 20th century. It's always the beautiful works of the Bachs or the Chopins. So even the "artsy" music isn't challenging them. Combine the poor education and the lack of exploratory mainstream music and *most* people have never had the opportunity to even hear something like Primitive Man's Scorn, and certainly not with timbres that would be more familiar to them (the growling alone is going to turn people away).
So remember that when it comes to people asking you "how can you find this beautiful" it isn't that they ask this from a place of superiority or complacency, it's literally a place of ignorance. Do you best to explain it to them in terms or metaphors that work best for them (which really helps if they're a friend of family or basically just not a stranger off the street 😁). While your answer of "art doesn't have to be beautiful" is concise and correct, it can also be heard as dismissive (moreso depending on your tone, body language, etc.). Just treat it as a teaching moment and if they walk away still not getting it then that's fine too. :)
@@CriticalReactions Great explanation! I'll think about and remember this, thanks.
I can relate to the darkness, the slow grind of the sickness of the human condition, some things in life can scar your soul, yet we trudge forward climbing towards the light, love this band been over 5 years now
And to think the band doesn't play material off this anymore because they don't think it's heavy enough...😂
My bud, Joe, is the drummer!
Greetings from Denver!
That's awesome! Tell 'em his drumming is fire the next time you see him.
Certainly! I've definitely been digging your takes to music in real time!
@@CriticalReactionsJoe isn't on Scorn
For me, it's hard to listen to most metal after you've digested something as melodically spectacular as 'Colors'.
Colors....the BTBAM album Colors? I did an album reaction to that a few months back. It was interesting but ultimately bounced off of me. They're a wildly talented group of people but I'm certainly appreciating their newer works which tend to have a bit of that early roughness shaved off.
Colors 2 is phenomenal imo. I love all things BTBAM. I liked Colors a lot, but to be honest, it was my love for The Great Misdirect that made them my favorite band, then the Parallax 2 literally changed my life. It was like planets aligned all in my favor and gave me exactly what I needed. And everything since then has been fulfilling as well and I have found it challenging to feel that way about any other band. They just have a way of speaking to my soul.
This would be a good series to check out some drone/funeral doom (excessively slow). I recommend Sunn O))) or Ahab.
Ahab ❤️
Khanate would be great too.
Definitely check out "commerce" by them, I think it is more interesting as the band had honed in even more on the concepts you talk about
great band
I’ve been waiting for this lol
My Pit Bulls get super worked up whenever I blast this band 😂 imagine that 🤔
their next album takes their sound even further! the song commerce is a paralyzing and hectic spiral into cathartic extremity that i recommend highly. it does everything it can to take you to your absolute limit and then tries to go just a bit further. it feels like being chained to a radiator and beaten so relentlessly for such an extended period of time that the pain starts to breach into the spiritual and mutates into this unholy religious experience. think the movie martyrs, being pushed to your furthest point to be able to see god.
from what i have gathered from your channel and this video you would absolutely hate it since it's just this cranked up to 11 and far more experimental in structure and endurance
i love this review though, even when something isn't your thing you always do your best to understand and appreciate what it is
You're right, that experience you described is not something I tend to look for in music. I'd probably still come away from it with an appreciation for what they're doing but if it's more of this, and an extreme more at that, then I'll probably not enjoy it casually.
I immediately thought of Martyrs while reading this comment then you mentioned it lol
A great description of their music. If you like this kind of music, I recommend you checking out The Body, which have a somewhat similar kind of atmosphere.
Why would someone suggest a song from Scorn for excessiveness?... Should have gone with something on Caustic.
1. Never heard this before the poll play-list, but I find myself with a word discribing my judgement on it that you might have a heard time understanding: Gorgeous!
2. I think you could see "scorn" fit for it if you'd just imagine the singer wrinkling his nose while growling(?)
SÀVER - Dissolve to Ashes
Yeah, this really didn't do anything for me. It kinda reminds me of the more excessive, indulgent bits of Swans, but less interesting. I can understand the idea of the style and sonics being there to express the lyrical themes, but mostly all it made me feel was a desire for it to move on to something else, especially with how the ending is so drawn out. Just not for me.