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The machine's final speech always gives me chills. The music, seeing the temple, the machine pleading for its life. The music for that scene is my favorite song from that game. This was the point it hit me, IM THE VILLAN. I'm the one who killed two innocent kids, turned thousands to deformed pig men. The moment from the game always stuck with me.
He even sent children to clean the harder to reach parts of the machine that, I dunno, occasionally grinds and smites them to their deaths, their bodies cleaned up by other children like them and only to be fed to the pig men. Mandis was all sorts of fucked up before he came to his senses.
The machine wasn't pleasing for only it's life. It was pleading for the humanless utopia that it was built to create, the dream of a future untainted by mankind.
You're right, nothing's perfect: including this game. People have spent so much time criticizing and disregarding AAMFP since its release for watering down its predecessor's gameplay (valid criticism) that they often overlook that this is maybe one of the most elegant, complex, and thought-provoking horror stories ever in a video game. I can say personally that the story and ideas of this game changed my life and my entire worldview. Mandus is probably one of my favorite characters period. Thank you for giving this underrated gem some TLC.
I haven't played the game, but I would hardly call anythinf discussed in this video thought provoking, certainly not life altering. It's an edgy horror game that attempts to have some bullshit message about humanity. Dime a dozen, to be sure.
@@johnsalem1795 Hey let the man appreciate his game, why is it problem that he liked it that much? I'm sure his opinion doesn't affect your life, you can carry on just fine.
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 andrew did had his own vision of the future after the atomic bomb he build Rapture part because he belive the surface will destory everthing and rapture will be the only one remain. the big diffrence between Mandus and andrew is Andrew never wanted to help humanity as a whole so his vision wont be shattered like Mandus . Andrew would hate Mandus guts for Mandus main motivation was he wants to save everone he did all the horrible shit because he claim is for the good of other he even gose as far as enslave himself.
@@II-uj5fm It didn't but the game at least required some thought and interaction, Machine for Pigs is a glorified walking sim with almost none of the things that made The Dark Decent good, your lantern is nigh infinite, the puzzles are barely puzzles and the only time you're ever in any danger is 1 or 2 set piece moments
@@Lovell93 More than a vision. He finds an 'orb' - an artefact. To properly use an orb requires years of study and and mental focus. Mandus touched it, and had a hundred years of future history burned in to his mind. Every war, every atrocity, every genocide. Slaughter on an industrial scale. People killed by the millions - in the name of country, in the name of ideology, in the name of god, or simply because they were in the way of someone stronger. He saw his children die in the Somme. He saw the clouds of poison gas. He saw starvation and exploitation and slavery. He saw cities burn. He saw children burned to nothing in the flash of atomic detonation, and the survivors slowly succumb to the radiation. The memory of all that suffering, upon a mind unprepared. It destroyed his sanity in an instant. The future he saw was nothing but a meat grinder. He killed his children to spare them from what was to come.
Seeing leadhead's comment being a week ago really shows how much he plans his videos and works hard to make them. Let's just take a moment to appreciate his video essays and say thank you.
@@saltytea7367 I think it's just relasing the video early and listing it as public once you want to show it, this video may have been a week early for patreons or something, i dont really understand what difference it makes to the quality of his videos
I only played this game because of the aesthetics of the 1890s, but then I ended up falling in love with this feeling that the game gives you as you play and figure out the story behind everything. Amazing experience
I mean, Mandis could have turned his machine in something to create a world where this horrible future wouldn't happen, he had the resources. Honestly, the story of creating a basically endless maze of pipes, saws and machines in order to cleanse/save humanity, but ends up being worse than humanity itself could ever be and ending being forgotten to rot with your creation that you now see as only the design of a madman, is legitimately scary and interesting, I believe there is a SCP Tale about something similar, but the core of this machine is a worm
It genuinely does. I've heard the sentiment from quite a few, myself included. "The Innocent! The Innocent, Mandus. Trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century, Mandus!!" - A terrible, ailing machine.
This game is severely underrated, people likes to shit on it because it changed one of the most popular survival horror games and made a sequel that was more like a walking simulator.
@MEME GOD indeed, but amnesia the dark descent was way more interactive, throwing objects around, using them to advance, puzzles, running for your life, managing your health(injuries had effects on your movement) and lantern oil, sanity.
Heard it before. It's pretty much any ideology like Lenin who was ready to kill all until only 10% remained as long as they were communists. His perfect world only his idea of imperfect humans stood in his way.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine."
Nice to see the game get some love but what I never see mentioned in these types of videos about A Machine for pigs, is that Mandus has a very British Victorian outlook on salvation and the lower classes: Only _he_ , the virtuously moral industrialist can look over his flock; to help them from themselves. That sense of superiority allows him to dehumanise and rationalise his actions. That's what frightening about it. He blames the orb and his feverish delusions for building the machine but his classism, of which he pretends to be ignorant, is just as much to blame.
And it's now reflected today in the real world in the hands of the technocrats, frame by frame as they continue to create an increasingly dystopian world for the rest of us.
colonialism manifest; just as the primitive natives in the congo were lambs to the slaughter of the trickle of ivory - and of empire's avarice - that had eaten through Kurtz's veins, and caressed his bald ivory head.
@@TeemuSintonen Interestingly, humans trying to "play God" is a criticism often traced back to "Frankenstein," but Frankenstein's point was just the opposite. It was a response to Paradise Lost, with a pretty explicit argument that God was a monster for creating such deeply flawed creatures as humanity and then washing his hands of the responsibility. In other words, it's not that humans shouldn't play God, but that the position of God is inherently immoral.
@@AbandonedVoid Haven't really thought of it that way, hhmm, interesting point... And a much more darker & nihilistic approach. Have to read more analyses of the Frankenstein's monster/Golem because there's just so much interesting source material to dive into.
"I have stood knee deep in mud and bone, and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy wars and copulated with the autumnal fallout. I have dug trenches for the refugees; I have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws, and starved the masses into faith. A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle. The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century, Mandus!" - The Engineer
"They will eat them Mandus...They will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs...and they will eat...your...hearts! -The Machine/Engineer
I remember playing this game and not really getting it. I never felt scared, I never read notes, and I ran through the game acting like it was Amnesia: The Dark Decent. Thank you for explaining this games purpose and meaning because damn that was powerful.
I didn't even play the game, I watched lets play videos and yea most people played it like this and the audience didn't feel scared either, most people were like "It's not Amnesia, it's boring". Then I watched a RUclipsr who read every note. I realized most of the story was in the notes and I thought it was interestingly written, but I was so confused what the whole thing was about that I just gave up. I think Amnesia brought in a little bit immature audience, because that game was perfectly scary even if you didn't get the story (and it was a far simpler story anyway). Machine for Pigs needs more maturity and patience and understanding. I hate that I wasn't that mature when I watched playthroughs because honestly, hearing the story like this, I really love it and I feel bad something so good was just left by many undiscovered. Sad writer noises.
I did. I read all the notes, followed up on all the leads and checked every corner. Now I might have have missed one or two but even with doing this, it did not make the game good. A game is more than just its story. And a story is only as good as its storyteller. This game had a good story but was not a good storyteller and to an extend the context it is told in. How do I know this? The vast amount of people who played this game never really got the depth and horror that it intended to convey. Which means that it failed in which it set out to do. And it got critiziced for it.
@@DeathnoteBB because notes in games are very counterintuitive, lazy and a boring way of presentation. They stall the whole gameplay flow for you to just read which, as i said, is very boring and counterintuitive. No one plays a game and gets excited upon seeing a bunch of semi long cryptic notes scattered about. Notes can be done right nevertheless, but you need to get a few things right and game shouldn't rely solely on them when it comes to revealing all the context.
The speech of the machine to mandus, is in my opinion on par with the "tears in rain" one from bladerunner. It's one that just sticks in your brain with impact.
Finally, A Machine for Pigs appreciation video! It's the best game in Amnesia series by a long-shot. The commentary on capitalism, exploitation of poor communities, and hyper consumerism ... all wrapped up in the metaphor of the glutenous pigging, a world in which sons are sacrificed and men butchered in the machine of the system that would always fail mankind. Fucking brilliant! This game was such a fucking gem. You don't ever see any game with this much depth. But, as usual, gamers! Great video. I couldn't have been happier!
Throughout this video, I was reminded viscerally of a certain quote saved in my phone. Jeremiah, 8|20: _The harvest has passed, summer has ended, but we have not been saved_
@@junichiroyamashita Honestly, I've never actually read the bible so I don't know the real context, but what I took from it in the context of this video was something along the lines of: the war is over but what was broken in the process cannot be mended.
So, I have this idea for a game about loneliness. There is a lot that needs polishing but here is the basic story: Alone in your houseboat, you complete a day of tasks, and your final task is to listen to the Morse code transmissions. You get message that translates to: Hey? Is anyone out there?" coming from another in the same situation as you. They are lonely and you start a conversation using Morse code. In theses conversations, you have choices that affect the characters personality and also their stories. In the end, you hear a message: three short beeps, three long beeps, and three short beeps again- SOS. Here, you can get to them quickly, but it would be hard to, and you arrive too late. There would also be a cassette player that the protagonist would listen to that would show this contrast of listening to prerecorded voices that sounded like real people, and talking to a real person sounding like just a series of beeps. Okay, so I hope that sounds like a game people would play. I came here cause I don't know where else to go to. Also, the video was fantastic!
You might like it. I didn't enjoy it, but then again I was trying to put it up with the standards of the dark descent when I first played it, and it's terrible compared to that game, but good by itself
All of the really cool backstory and context at the beginning of this video is only revealed in the last two or three minutes of the game, unfortunately.
"When you try to create a perfect world full of imperfect people, you view the people as the problem." The reality of Utopianism in a nutshell, and why it never works.
"I have stood knee deep in mud and bone and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy wars and copulated with the autumnal fallout. I have dug trenches for the refugees; I have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws and starved the masses into faith. A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle. The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century! They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts!"
I still think aMfP is some of the best writing to grace a video game. Side note, please increase your audio level, when the ads hit in the middle and end they are like 10dB louder. Thank you for this video and all your hard work.
What i think they did the best about this game are the different background sounds. Nothing gave me more chills than walking in a dark corridor and hearing different machines working in the background. And i loved moving the levers and doors very satisfying
After seeing this comment, I decided to listen to it and they are really similar. Both are about a man trying to save his family from incoming horrors, and after the nightmares they themselves create, both realize that they’ve ultimately changed nothing. Both are amazing stories
I can’t stop thinking about this game’s story. I think the important part of Mandus is that he’s not an idealist; he’s a heartbroken cynic. He believes that there is nothing to the future but pain and misery and so he thinks existence itself might as well end. He murders his sons now because he only sees their lives as pointless preambles to a horrific end. As someone who has dealt with depression for the last decade of my life, Mandus is like a lot of us. As the world teeters on the brink of climate cataclysm, as billions suffer under the yoke of the heartless machine of capitalism, as a plague ravages our bodies and our souls, as our existence is reduced to digital stupor, let it be known: This is not all there is. There is hope. Life brings pain, but we struggle through pain for the pride, the love, the joy, and most of all, the hope. We might ultimately be pigs. But as Mandus noted in the ending, the pigs can still sing to each other. And that glorious song is worth every moment of torture we endure. Side note to anyone reading this: If you are feeling depressed, please reach out to someone. Friend, family, crisis line, there are many who want to listen. You are not alone, and while there are no easy solutions to depression, the beast can be kept at bay. Your life is not your depression. You are not your depression. You are so much more than that.
I cannot explain with any word in the god damn vocabulary how beautifully you piece things together and portray them in your videos, I wanted to make a channel like yours ever since I was 13 and had dedicated a long time in figuring out ways to create amazing content that describe how video games are art in someone's soul. I'm very glad that someone made a channel like this and I'm even more glad that this someone is pretty damn good at what he's doing. You should be up in the ladder with other RUclipsrs famous around gaming, not trapped within 200k subscribers. I wish you growth and success and soon enough I promised to myself, I will pursue the dream of a channel like this.
"Nobody was saved, nobody was redeemed, and humanity stepped blindly into the bloodiest century it would ever face. And after that, we continued living." This. This is the whole tremendously horrifying experience of this game in it's core. People died, people suffered for nothing, this mistakes can't be fixed, and we know damn well that the orb didn't lie in those visions. Yet, we keep living. No matter what.
Yeah, it's a tale of political anxieties and rising tensions, perpetual fears of war, and the extents to which people will go to prevent it. And that's not even the story itself, just the backdrop.
@@phillippi2 I thought the game replaced the story, since Harlan Ellison was directly involved with it and I don't really think you can experience them both together without encountering at least a couple of significant contradictions.
There's just something about this game. It's story and setting is one of the most unique and memorable ones I've experienced. There's something deeply unsettling about the idea of a colossal machine like that (especially combined with a steampunky setting) that is kind of alive and a mystery to even its creator. It's hard to even try to explain the weird feeling it awakes in me. Absolutely genious.
I literally cried when mandus sacrificed himself at the end of the game and the music playing at that time was so perfect according to the conditions. literally loved this game
can i just say. playing this for the first time a few days ago was insane, the atmosphere. the scenery, the way the story was done. it was all incredible! and my god, seeing the iron butler for the first time. the very machine that caused all this chaos, it was really intense.
This is why Amnesia is such a good game, not only because of its horror, but because of its story, it leaves you thinking and once you really finish the game, it sticks with you and it’s something you wont forget
It's way too common to confuse perfection with exactitude. Exact systems function like clockwork, every cog does it's thing and any error is catastrophical. Perfection is different. Perfection is tolerant to failure. It has all the failsafes needed to work perfectly. It can accommodate everyone no matter how imperfect. That's what makes perfection perfect.
Oh man. This really takes me back. Back to the good ol days of “Shitstorms” on Two Best Friends Play formerly known as the Sw1tcher. 2013 I believe. Really doesn’t feel that long ago.
This guys videos literally makes me feel like I just watched an entire movie. I feel all of the emotions I need to feel within just 10 minutes. I'm glad I found this channel today.
@@kastillopan ayy nothing wrong with that, everyone gets something different from the games they play. For me, the writing was so specific to my taste in horror that it just really stuck with me, and I know that that is a very individual experience of mine :P And having been a fan of Dear Esther before I ever played Amnesia, I had already liked the narrative "walking simulator" kind of stuff.
@@frostyelkk please god release me from this nightmare, let the veil be lifted and the coruscating columns of light fall upon the darkness of endless Teen Drama+ that we might banish this foe and redeem our souls in the light of the classpects
Great video. I really enjoy all of the frictional games series. Penumbra, the dark descent, a Machine for pigs, Soma and Rebirth. They all tell an amazing story.
I think the game devs knew what they were doing when they named the character "Osmund Mandus" -- "I met a traveler from an antique land, Who said -- ' two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert... near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal these words appear: *My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;* *Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!* *Nothing beside remains. Round the decay* *Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare* *The lone and level sands stretch far away.'"* -Ozymandias, by Percy Bysshe Shelley
This is a pretty powerful story when you break it down like this, but the reason very few people appreciate it is because they wrote every single piece of dialogue with so much flowery prose that it constantly obfucates the original point of the text. That last metaphor laden monologue you heard as the player character dies? That's how every single note and spoken sentence is told. Brevity is the soul of wit, they say, but this game never says in 10 words what it can say in 100.
Bah, this game WAS perfect to me: everything it wanted to do as a title, The Chinese Room executed flawlessly. This was never meant to be “The Dark Descent 2”. I love all of them equally.
How in the world am I only just now learning that this game exists??? I remember watching Pewdie play Amnesia: The Dark Descent way back in like 2012, but I somehow never heard about this one. The man became everything he was desperately trying to stop. I think the saddest part is what you said in the end about how nothing he did even changed anything. Incredible story
While recording dark sections you could up the brightness and saturation (in game or in ur gpu control panel) just a bit to fix the really bad visible pixels that you get in dark areas on videos
I want to thank this video for introducing me to what is now one of my favourite games of all time, I don't care about the gameplay, I'm in love with the atmosphere, story, writing, characters and voice acting.
@Gemtem petscop was not an arg it was a webseries and I get what you are trying to say but even tho it wasn't realesed to the general public it was still a game...
Machine for Pigs may not be as good as its predecesor gameplay wise, but the story and the ideas behind it are incredible. If anyone has the chance, I recommend reading some of the concepts for this game, its got some amazing descriptions of places and the men-pig. One thing I always remember is how there's a note that states that after becoming monsters, the one thing that would drive the men-pig crazy was catching a glimpse of their reflections, because they remembered being human before and seeing themselves turned into disfigured, wounded monsters was too much for their minds to bear. Truly a fate worse than death.
The idea of having to learn about such an event in school would be disturbing for the class, this would have shocked the world of what had happened in London
There are people that say the "end is near" in reponse to all the trouble all the misery and chaos that humanity inflicts upon it self, angry at our imperfections In every generation there are people like that But in the end we survive, We thrive and continue on Such pessimism has no place as long as our kinds exists As long as you exist There will be hope.
But at what cost, as long as we exist there will be unjustified and unnecessary suffering. What does thriving even mean to you and why is survival a goal in it self. Hope of what, continued existence, to what end?
I know I'm late to this but man that ending. It is so beautifully haunting to me, the machine had a point, the 20th century would be violent and full of death, millions slaughtered, but it would also be a century of hope. Men would rise up to meet some of the world's evils, diseases would be cured, mankind would start to touch the stars. To me the ending works because it feels like Mandus is taking a chance, a chance that man would survive the 20th century and that they would bring about a better better then the one he had saw
The craziest thing is that Mandis's actions could have actually happened, and we're none the wiser. I obviously don't believe that, but man that would be bizarre.
Woah, so this game has a fanbase after all! I was starting to think i was the only one. The story is huge and lingers with you for a while after finishing it, i just love those kind of games.
Everyone give a round of applause for Jessica Curry's music because god DAMN, that's what made the game a "meh" at first to a "this is a classic and I've been too harsh."
I gave the Amnesia Trilogy a try solely for Jessica Currys' music, and finished playing last night. I've got to say 'A Machine For Pigs' is the one that really got to me. From the moment I re-emerged onto the London streets to the final ascent up the temple, I was just swept up in the black maelstrom. Then I went online to find out about other peoples reactions and everybody hated it?!?! Then I found Leadhead. Thank you for your words kind sir.
The backlash for this game game from reviewers being sour about the Dear Esther people stripping a lot of game mechanics from Dark Descent. I still enjoyed it. I just felt too safe while playing.
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Didn’t know when he said the darkest game he meant DARKEST, cus I can’t see shit in this game.
Take my like and leave
Lol 😂
Based
I can "see" it
*wheeze-*
RUclips's compression completely butchered this video... Sorry about that. Dark areas tend to be a lot worse on RUclips.
Very sad.
RUclips: a machine for bits
Wait, why is this comment posted a WEEK ago???
It's fine. Your great commentary makes up for it!
i thought it was smart resample
*Kills sons*
“Why would humanity do this?”
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You're either joking or you misunderstood the story, can't tell which one it is
@@ZenTunE- probably a joke lmao
@@ZenTunE- joking, WAY oversimplifying the story
@@ZenTunE- its supposed to be one of those eric andre memes
The machine's final speech always gives me chills. The music, seeing the temple, the machine pleading for its life. The music for that scene is my favorite song from that game. This was the point it hit me, IM THE VILLAN. I'm the one who killed two innocent kids, turned thousands to deformed pig men. The moment from the game always stuck with me.
He even sent children to clean the harder to reach parts of the machine that, I dunno, occasionally grinds and smites them to their deaths, their bodies cleaned up by other children like them and only to be fed to the pig men. Mandis was all sorts of fucked up before he came to his senses.
Villan
jessica curry nailed it
The machine wasn't pleasing for only it's life. It was pleading for the humanless utopia that it was built to create, the dream of a future untainted by mankind.
Dude that’s the most generic plot twist in fiction
You're right, nothing's perfect: including this game. People have spent so much time criticizing and disregarding AAMFP since its release for watering down its predecessor's gameplay (valid criticism) that they often overlook that this is maybe one of the most elegant, complex, and thought-provoking horror stories ever in a video game. I can say personally that the story and ideas of this game changed my life and my entire worldview. Mandus is probably one of my favorite characters period. Thank you for giving this underrated gem some TLC.
I haven't played the game, but I would hardly call anythinf discussed in this video thought provoking, certainly not life altering. It's an edgy horror game that attempts to have some bullshit message about humanity. Dime a dozen, to be sure.
@@johnsalem1795 Hey let the man appreciate his game, why is it problem that he liked it that much? I'm sure his opinion doesn't affect your life, you can carry on just fine.
Shut up
Dude I watch your channel too this was super unexpected
@Hunter Biden What are you on about?
I once heard someone describe this game as "Bioshock, but you're Andrew Ryan."
not even andrew was this crazy
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 well the guy litteraly saw all the horror of the XXcentury the age where is childs will live i would have gone mad too
altruism is true evil
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 andrew did had his own vision of the future after the atomic bomb he build Rapture part because he belive the surface will destory everthing and rapture will be the only one remain.
the big diffrence between Mandus and andrew is Andrew never wanted to help humanity as a whole so his vision wont be shattered like Mandus .
Andrew would hate Mandus guts for Mandus main motivation was he wants to save everone he did all the horrible shit because he claim is for the good of other he even gose as far as enslave himself.
Good timing, Amnesia Rebirth is meant to come out tomorrow
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Im proud of them! 🏳️🌈
@@sagapulastation1711 ok
The original is free on epic too
He may already be aware and is that good that isnwhy thia video was released today an not a week ago
Man, such an underrated gem this game is, a true tragic case of people expecting something else and overlooking the greatness that they actually got.
lol I just know it as "that one game that pewdiepie screamed at barrels"
It sucks that the game itself is terrible to play
How can you defend the terrible gameplay? The story and music were great, sure.
@@dmin5782 it wasn’t like the first game had very innovative gameplay either.
@@II-uj5fm It didn't but the game at least required some thought and interaction, Machine for Pigs is a glorified walking sim with almost none of the things that made The Dark Decent good, your lantern is nigh infinite, the puzzles are barely puzzles and the only time you're ever in any danger is 1 or 2 set piece moments
"My sons died in WW1, better make pig homunculi."
This game is set before WW1 if I'm not mistaken.
@@Lovell93 he has a vision of his sons dying before the events of the game. so you're both right
@@Lovell93 More than a vision. He finds an 'orb' - an artefact. To properly use an orb requires years of study and and mental focus. Mandus touched it, and had a hundred years of future history burned in to his mind. Every war, every atrocity, every genocide. Slaughter on an industrial scale. People killed by the millions - in the name of country, in the name of ideology, in the name of god, or simply because they were in the way of someone stronger. He saw his children die in the Somme. He saw the clouds of poison gas. He saw starvation and exploitation and slavery. He saw cities burn. He saw children burned to nothing in the flash of atomic detonation, and the survivors slowly succumb to the radiation. The memory of all that suffering, upon a mind unprepared.
It destroyed his sanity in an instant. The future he saw was nothing but a meat grinder. He killed his children to spare them from what was to come.
@@Lovell93 1899
@@Lovell93 but those trucks that were in game feels to modern for 1899.
Seeing leadhead's comment being a week ago really shows how much he plans his videos and works hard to make them. Let's just take a moment to appreciate his video essays and say thank you.
p sure its for adsense
@@makarios.1633 Are You Talking About The Comment Or Something Else?
Doesn’t that mean it was released earlier for patreon access? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
@@InVinoVeratas they can write their comment earlier but it tends to be an hour early or ten minutes early so a week just shows alot of preparation
@@saltytea7367 I think it's just relasing the video early and listing it as public once you want to show it, this video may have been a week early for patreons or something, i dont really understand what difference it makes to the quality of his videos
I only played this game because of the aesthetics of the 1890s, but then I ended up falling in love with this feeling that the game gives you as you play and figure out the story behind everything. Amazing experience
indeed!
I mean, Mandis could have turned his machine in something to create a world where this horrible future wouldn't happen, he had the resources.
Honestly, the story of creating a basically endless maze of pipes, saws and machines in order to cleanse/save humanity, but ends up being worse than humanity itself could ever be and ending being forgotten to rot with your creation that you now see as only the design of a madman, is legitimately scary and interesting, I believe there is a SCP Tale about something similar, but the core of this machine is a worm
SCP 1461: The House of the Worm
Yeah, there are a lot of similarities to this and that SCP entry.
A Machine For Pigs was the inspiration for House of the Worm.
Honestly bro could’ve just printed some newspapers and had a far greater effect
the ending speech as you ascend the steps still brings a tear to my eye
a machine for pigs wasnt particularly scary or complex but story wise a gem
It genuinely does. I've heard the sentiment from quite a few, myself included.
"The Innocent! The Innocent, Mandus. Trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century, Mandus!!" - A terrible, ailing machine.
This game is severely underrated, people likes to shit on it because it changed one of the most popular survival horror games and made a sequel that was more like a walking simulator.
a walking simulator with an AMAZING story that is
@@bluballs3329 oh certainly
@MEME GOD indeed, but amnesia the dark descent was way more interactive, throwing objects around, using them to advance, puzzles, running for your life, managing your health(injuries had effects on your movement) and lantern oil, sanity.
Underrated? People these days...
@JM Coulon yet people don't shit on games like Telltale series, maybe somewhat engaging, but majorly just with quick time events.......
Hearing the story I realised that if you trying to be perfect instead of being better ,you will just destroy everything.
Seeing how a lot of game reviews hated the game, this video warms my broken heart. Thank you so much
He wanted a perfect world and only imperfect humans stood in the way of his dream.
Holy sh*t that's perfect and dark.
It is the technocracy. Human become cyborgs, because the human is "disgusting".
s o c i e t y
Heard it before. It's pretty much any ideology like Lenin who was ready to kill all until only 10% remained as long as they were communists. His perfect world only his idea of imperfect humans stood in his way.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine."
“This world is imperfect. If only I could wipe out the impurities and make it as beautiful as me.”
Nice to see the game get some love but what I never see mentioned in these types of videos about A Machine for pigs, is that Mandus has a very British Victorian outlook on salvation and the lower classes: Only _he_ , the virtuously moral industrialist can look over his flock; to help them from themselves. That sense of superiority allows him to dehumanise and rationalise his actions. That's what frightening about it. He blames the orb and his feverish delusions for building the machine but his classism, of which he pretends to be ignorant, is just as much to blame.
And it's now reflected today in the real world in the hands of the technocrats, frame by frame as they continue to create an increasingly dystopian world for the rest of us.
colonialism manifest; just as the primitive natives in the congo were lambs to the slaughter of the trickle of ivory - and of empire's avarice - that had eaten through Kurtz's veins, and caressed
his bald ivory head.
THANK YOU! It's the story as old as time: humans trying to play God.
@@TeemuSintonen Interestingly, humans trying to "play God" is a criticism often traced back to "Frankenstein," but Frankenstein's point was just the opposite. It was a response to Paradise Lost, with a pretty explicit argument that God was a monster for creating such deeply flawed creatures as humanity and then washing his hands of the responsibility.
In other words, it's not that humans shouldn't play God, but that the position of God is inherently immoral.
@@AbandonedVoid Haven't really thought of it that way, hhmm, interesting point... And a much more darker & nihilistic approach. Have to read more analyses of the Frankenstein's monster/Golem because there's just so much interesting source material to dive into.
This had the most obscure game story that I’ve ever heard, but so thought out and comprehensive
"I have stood knee deep in mud and bone, and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy wars and copulated with the autumnal fallout. I have dug trenches for the refugees; I have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws, and starved the masses into faith. A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle. The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century, Mandus!" - The Engineer
"They will eat them Mandus...They will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs...and they will eat...your...hearts!
-The Machine/Engineer
@@davidnewhart2533 kinky
I'm not even gonna front, I started getting into Amnesia because of PewDiePie. The story is really well written imo.
Never seen a comment from you with so little likes.
I feel like you are just a ghost with the same likes as me that follows us to every video.
Or maybe I'm the ghost that follows you.
What does that have to do with my reply?
u should have fronted..
this dude is the guy who puts "thanks for the gold kind stranger" on his reddit posts, fucking god
I remember playing this game and not really getting it. I never felt scared, I never read notes, and I ran through the game acting like it was Amnesia: The Dark Decent. Thank you for explaining this games purpose and meaning because damn that was powerful.
I didn't even play the game, I watched lets play videos and yea most people played it like this and the audience didn't feel scared either, most people were like "It's not Amnesia, it's boring".
Then I watched a RUclipsr who read every note. I realized most of the story was in the notes and I thought it was interestingly written, but I was so confused what the whole thing was about that I just gave up.
I think Amnesia brought in a little bit immature audience, because that game was perfectly scary even if you didn't get the story (and it was a far simpler story anyway). Machine for Pigs needs more maturity and patience and understanding. I hate that I wasn't that mature when I watched playthroughs because honestly, hearing the story like this, I really love it and I feel bad something so good was just left by many undiscovered. Sad writer noises.
I did. I read all the notes, followed up on all the leads and checked every corner. Now I might have have missed one or two but even with doing this, it did not make the game good. A game is more than just its story. And a story is only as good as its storyteller. This game had a good story but was not a good storyteller and to an extend the context it is told in. How do I know this? The vast amount of people who played this game never really got the depth and horror that it intended to convey. Which means that it failed in which it set out to do. And it got critiziced for it.
@@tilaNmanx So many games rely on notes to tell the story, idk why people run past them and then wonder why the game is boring
@@DeathnoteBB because notes in games are very counterintuitive, lazy and a boring way of presentation. They stall the whole gameplay flow for you to just read which, as i said, is very boring and counterintuitive. No one plays a game and gets excited upon seeing a bunch of semi long cryptic notes scattered about. Notes can be done right nevertheless, but you need to get a few things right and game shouldn't rely solely on them when it comes to revealing all the context.
The speech of the machine to mandus, is in my opinion on par with the "tears in rain" one from bladerunner.
It's one that just sticks in your brain with impact.
Finally, A Machine for Pigs appreciation video! It's the best game in Amnesia series by a long-shot. The commentary on capitalism, exploitation of poor communities, and hyper consumerism ... all wrapped up in the metaphor of the glutenous pigging, a world in which sons are sacrificed and men butchered in the machine of the system that would always fail mankind. Fucking brilliant! This game was such a fucking gem. You don't ever see any game with this much depth. But, as usual, gamers!
Great video. I couldn't have been happier!
Throughout this video, I was reminded viscerally of a certain quote saved in my phone. Jeremiah, 8|20:
_The harvest has passed, summer has ended, but we have not been saved_
What does that mean?
@@junichiroyamashita Honestly, I've never actually read the bible so I don't know the real context, but what I took from it in the context of this video was something along the lines of: the war is over but what was broken in the process cannot be mended.
@@gentle_apathy you’re actually pretty spot on! I encourage you to read the Bible, though. God bless!
So, I have this idea for a game about loneliness. There is a lot that needs polishing but here is the basic story: Alone in your houseboat, you complete a day of tasks, and your final task is to listen to the Morse code transmissions. You get message that translates to: Hey? Is anyone out there?" coming from another in the same situation as you. They are lonely and you start a conversation using Morse code. In theses conversations, you have choices that affect the characters personality and also their stories. In the end, you hear a message: three short beeps, three long beeps, and three short beeps again- SOS. Here, you can get to them quickly, but it would be hard to, and you arrive too late.
There would also be a cassette player that the protagonist would listen to that would show this contrast of listening to prerecorded voices that sounded like real people, and talking to a real person sounding like just a series of beeps.
Okay, so I hope that sounds like a game people would play. I came here cause I don't know where else to go to. Also, the video was fantastic!
Reminds me of Firewatch
Sounds cool.
I would play that.
That sounds cool, I’d totally play that
Depending how serious you are about this, reach out to me.
The temple speech kills me every time I hear it. It's so well written and its so aaahhh emotion
I felt emotions for a game I never played for the first time, I gotta play this game at some point
@@brzi6504 thank you
@@brzi6504 was gonna come and comment that 😄
You might like it. I didn't enjoy it, but then again I was trying to put it up with the standards of the dark descent when I first played it, and it's terrible compared to that game, but good by itself
All of the really cool backstory and context at the beginning of this video is only revealed in the last two or three minutes of the game, unfortunately.
You never felt emotional for a Game ?
"When you try to create a perfect world full of imperfect people, you view the people as the problem."
The reality of Utopianism in a nutshell, and why it never works.
Kind of reminds me of the SCP-1461 "House of the worm". With the machine and the idea of redeeming or saving humanity. Id think you would like it!
Glad you posted this, as I was thinking the exact same thing I just couldn't figure out the name.
I was gonna comment the same thing but I couldn't remember the SCP number lol
"I have stood knee deep in mud and bone and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy wars and copulated with the autumnal fallout. I have dug trenches for the refugees; I have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws and starved the masses into faith. A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle. The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century! They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts!"
The name itself is enough to tell me how messed up it is. Jeez.
I still think aMfP is some of the best writing to grace a video game.
Side note, please increase your audio level, when the ads hit in the middle and end they are like 10dB louder.
Thank you for this video and all your hard work.
_"In Mandus' mind, the 20th Century would be the one to finally break Humanity"_
*The 20th Century:* Crap...he's right. But hey, now we got Anime.
I mean 2020 is fitting
2020 is in the 21st century, not the 20th...
@@ElijahBerg0011 Refer to my above response.
What would quarantine be without anime and RUclips? Absolute mayhem.
You mean the 21st century?
What i think they did the best about this game are the different background sounds. Nothing gave me more chills than walking in a dark corridor and hearing different machines working in the background. And i loved moving the levers and doors very satisfying
Has anybody else heard or read the scp-1461 story "house of the worm"?
I feel like the writer drew inspiration from this story
Heh you're right. But the plot was superior.
@@R1ckr011 on which one?
After seeing this comment, I decided to listen to it and they are really similar. Both are about a man trying to save his family from incoming horrors, and after the nightmares they themselves create, both realize that they’ve ultimately changed nothing. Both are amazing stories
@@newdivide9882 that's amazing to hear that you decided to listen to it because of my comment! Scp universe is really fascinating.
This is fascinating. The psychology of this character, the father, is incredibly well written.
I can’t stop thinking about this game’s story.
I think the important part of Mandus is that he’s not an idealist; he’s a heartbroken cynic. He believes that there is nothing to the future but pain and misery and so he thinks existence itself might as well end. He murders his sons now because he only sees their lives as pointless preambles to a horrific end.
As someone who has dealt with depression for the last decade of my life, Mandus is like a lot of us. As the world teeters on the brink of climate cataclysm, as billions suffer under the yoke of the heartless machine of capitalism, as a plague ravages our bodies and our souls, as our existence is reduced to digital stupor, let it be known: This is not all there is. There is hope. Life brings pain, but we struggle through pain for the pride, the love, the joy, and most of all, the hope.
We might ultimately be pigs. But as Mandus noted in the ending, the pigs can still sing to each other. And that glorious song is worth every moment of torture we endure.
Side note to anyone reading this: If you are feeling depressed, please reach out to someone. Friend, family, crisis line, there are many who want to listen. You are not alone, and while there are no easy solutions to depression, the beast can be kept at bay. Your life is not your depression. You are not your depression. You are so much more than that.
I cannot explain with any word in the god damn vocabulary how beautifully you piece things together and portray them in your videos, I wanted to make a channel like yours ever since I was 13 and had dedicated a long time in figuring out ways to create amazing content that describe how video games are art in someone's soul. I'm very glad that someone made a channel like this and I'm even more glad that this someone is pretty damn good at what he's doing. You should be up in the ladder with other RUclipsrs famous around gaming, not trapped within 200k subscribers. I wish you growth and success and soon enough I promised to myself, I will pursue the dream of a channel like this.
Gonna shill real quick: this game is free on Epic Games store until I think the 22nd of October, so pick it up while you can!
I love you
But Epic is stinky :(
I'll buy it on Steam just so I don't have to install EGS
And the game even runs natively on Linux. EGS doesn't even have a Linux client though.
Love your Half Life vids very good ! If i were rich id sponsor the fuck out of you :) keep it up ☝
@@duckfilms3662 but... it's free. why would you not try it out?
"Nobody was saved, nobody was redeemed, and humanity stepped blindly into the bloodiest century it would ever face. And after that, we continued living."
This. This is the whole tremendously horrifying experience of this game in it's core. People died, people suffered for nothing, this mistakes can't be fixed, and we know damn well that the orb didn't lie in those visions. Yet, we keep living. No matter what.
I think the darkest story in gaming is "I Have No Mouth and I must Scream".
One of the only short stories to ever scare me while I read it
@TheDiabeticGameMaster Read the story first. The game is a sequel to it.
@TheDiabeticGameMaster "can't wait to read it"
You can do that now, it was released in 67.
Yeah, it's a tale of political anxieties and rising tensions, perpetual fears of war, and the extents to which people will go to prevent it. And that's not even the story itself, just the backdrop.
@@phillippi2 I thought the game replaced the story, since Harlan Ellison was directly involved with it and I don't really think you can experience them both together without encountering at least a couple of significant contradictions.
There's just something about this game. It's story and setting is one of the most unique and memorable ones I've experienced. There's something deeply unsettling about the idea of a colossal machine like that (especially combined with a steampunky setting) that is kind of alive and a mystery to even its creator. It's hard to even try to explain the weird feeling it awakes in me. Absolutely genious.
I literally cried when mandus sacrificed himself at the end of the game and the music playing at that time was so perfect according to the conditions. literally loved this game
can i just say. playing this for the first time a few days ago was insane, the atmosphere. the scenery, the way the story was done. it was all incredible! and my god, seeing the iron butler for the first time. the very machine that caused all this chaos, it was really intense.
This is why Amnesia is such a good game, not only because of its horror, but because of its story, it leaves you thinking and once you really finish the game, it sticks with you and it’s something you wont forget
It's way too common to confuse perfection with exactitude. Exact systems function like clockwork, every cog does it's thing and any error is catastrophical. Perfection is different.
Perfection is tolerant to failure. It has all the failsafes needed to work perfectly. It can accommodate everyone no matter how imperfect. That's what makes perfection perfect.
Oh man. This really takes me back. Back to the good ol days of “Shitstorms” on Two Best Friends Play formerly known as the Sw1tcher. 2013 I believe. Really doesn’t feel that long ago.
Now you made me remember that WE are in october right now....
_Tic toc, tic toc..._
@@ano_nym memento mori
This guys videos literally makes me feel like I just watched an entire movie. I feel all of the emotions I need to feel within just 10 minutes. I'm glad I found this channel today.
A Machine for Pigs is an underrated masterpiece. One of my favorite horror games ever.
I think the game would be MUCH BETTER if it didn't had "Amnesia" Slapped on the name
@@kastillopan Yeah I definitely agree with that, might've been better off just called A Machine for Pigs.
Still feels like Amnesia to me though :>
@@drrifted1514 For me, it doesn't, I played amnesia : a dark descend after I completed A machine for pigs, it's, 2 complete different experiences
@@kastillopan ayy nothing wrong with that, everyone gets something different from the games they play.
For me, the writing was so specific to my taste in horror that it just really stuck with me, and I know that that is a very individual experience of mine :P
And having been a fan of Dear Esther before I ever played Amnesia, I had already liked the narrative "walking simulator" kind of stuff.
@@drrifted1514 For me, it was a really great experience, for both of the games.
This could have been an amazing game. Even better than the first.
@Gemtem That infinite oil still pisses me off greatly. I agree the lack of puzzles do tend to make the game a rather redundant game of hide and seek.
After listening to her newest videos for a whole 2 years, hearing the pre-fem voice is like a gahd dam jumpscare.
“The Darkest Story in Gaming”
Half Life 2: *you dare attempt to usurp my throne?*
It never even had a throne
@@cheeseboi588 Uhh, yes, it did.
@@RealRotkohl Okay sure
4:25 "Compound X"? So he was one step away to create his own Powerpuff Girls, it seems.
There is such thing as perfection; this channel.
Sadly not even this channel is perfect. Someone will always find a flaw. But it is perfect to me and you at least
Low standards
@capriFangy
We are stuck in the eternal torment of having seen the amazing and knowing one thing;
It's only downhill from here.
@@frostyelkk please god release me from this nightmare, let the veil be lifted and the coruscating columns of light fall upon the darkness of endless Teen Drama+ that we might banish this foe and redeem our souls in the light of the classpects
Damn that smooth
Great video. I really enjoy all of the frictional games series. Penumbra, the dark descent, a Machine for pigs, Soma and Rebirth. They all tell an amazing story.
truly, your channel has become one of the most interesting channels in RUclips
Absolutely incredible recitation of the story. Thank you for consistently making great content. I thoroughly enjoy every minute of it! :D
Most engaging 10 minutes I've seen in a long time.
I think the game devs knew what they were doing when they named the character "Osmund Mandus" --
"I met a traveler from an antique land,
Who said -- ' two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert... near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal these words appear:
*My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;*
*Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!*
*Nothing beside remains. Round the decay*
*Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare*
*The lone and level sands stretch far away.'"*
-Ozymandias, by Percy Bysshe Shelley
Keep making videos lead, they have only gotten better.
Wow that title wasn’t even clickbait
"Is there something sinister in moralism?"
This is a pretty powerful story when you break it down like this, but the reason very few people appreciate it is because they wrote every single piece of dialogue with so much flowery prose that it constantly obfucates the original point of the text. That last metaphor laden monologue you heard as the player character dies? That's how every single note and spoken sentence is told.
Brevity is the soul of wit, they say, but this game never says in 10 words what it can say in 100.
Bah, this game WAS perfect to me: everything it wanted to do as a title, The Chinese Room executed flawlessly.
This was never meant to be “The Dark Descent 2”.
I love all of them equally.
Yeah , for me this is the best amnesia and i played all of them(The Dark Descent,Machine for Pigs and Rebirth)
"Before you steeped me in the blood of your own, I was nothing but rotten architecture. You have made me, and I will make the world anew."
I love your content, so many RUclipsrs could learn from you, keep up the great work
Glad you made a video about this game. It was one of the best horror experiences ive had and im glad i played it.
Your'e the only person I know who actually adores machine for pigs
Worth A Buy does as well.
How in the world am I only just now learning that this game exists??? I remember watching Pewdie play Amnesia: The Dark Descent way back in like 2012, but I somehow never heard about this one.
The man became everything he was desperately trying to stop. I think the saddest part is what you said in the end about how nothing he did even changed anything. Incredible story
Wow...wow. Having never known amnesia as anything but a "youtuber jumpscare" game, all I can say is....wow. Good video!!
Alternate Title : Pokemon Platinum but It's set in The Steampunk Era and Cyrus Wins
While recording dark sections you could up the brightness and saturation (in game or in ur gpu control panel) just a bit to fix the really bad visible pixels that you get in dark areas on videos
I want to thank this video for introducing me to what is now one of my favourite games of all time, I don't care about the gameplay, I'm in love with the atmosphere, story, writing, characters and voice acting.
absolute chad. this game deserves way more love than it ever got
Petscop : *coughs in the background*
@Gemtem petscop was not an arg it was a webseries and I get what you are trying to say but even tho it wasn't realesed to the general public it was still a game...
I never had any intention of playing this game, but for a game that was so less well recieved than the first, the story is pretty fantastic
Machine for Pigs may not be as good as its predecesor gameplay wise, but the story and the ideas behind it are incredible. If anyone has the chance, I recommend reading some of the concepts for this game, its got some amazing descriptions of places and the men-pig. One thing I always remember is how there's a note that states that after becoming monsters, the one thing that would drive the men-pig crazy was catching a glimpse of their reflections, because they remembered being human before and seeing themselves turned into disfigured, wounded monsters was too much for their minds to bear. Truly a fate worse than death.
Fitting that you released this video upon the Armilustrum: festival of the god of slaughter and a ritual of purification.
Which religion is that, and can I send their twisted priest a pipe bomb in the mail?
Time traveling pipe Bombs...
That'd be fun.
The idea of having to learn about such an event in school would be disturbing for the class, this would have shocked the world of what had happened in London
There are people that say the "end is near" in reponse to all the trouble all the misery and chaos that humanity inflicts upon it self, angry at our imperfections
In every generation there are people like that
But in the end we survive,
We thrive and continue on
Such pessimism has no place as long as our kinds exists
As long as you exist
There will be hope.
But at what cost, as long as we exist there will be unjustified and unnecessary suffering. What does thriving even mean to you and why is survival a goal in it self. Hope of what, continued existence, to what end?
@@Roland867 I agree with you, the sooner humanity ends the better.
@MEME GOD Not an argument.
Amnesia.A.Machine.for.Pigs is extremely underrated because most of the people dont undestand story !
Who remembers the pewdiepie amnesia days? That’s how I know anything about this series.
The final speech followed by the outro music... beautiful game, and so overlooked.
it's been 60 seconds, there's 40 views and 20 likes with no dislikes, i think most of us like this channel
NOBODY CARES BE QUIET COMMENT SOMETHING ACTUALLY GOOD
@@bostin1472 shut up
@@Nightwing_Meh shut up
I know I'm late to this but man that ending. It is so beautifully haunting to me, the machine had a point, the 20th century would be violent and full of death, millions slaughtered, but it would also be a century of hope. Men would rise up to meet some of the world's evils, diseases would be cured, mankind would start to touch the stars. To me the ending works because it feels like Mandus is taking a chance, a chance that man would survive the 20th century and that they would bring about a better better then the one he had saw
Jesus, Toby Longworth (the main voice actor for the game) Is phenomenal
The craziest thing is that Mandis's actions could have actually happened, and we're none the wiser.
I obviously don't believe that, but man that would be bizarre.
i rmbr how the mlp fandom had a rlly bad obsession w drawing pony amnesia fanart wkdksk
Woah, so this game has a fanbase after all! I was starting to think i was the only one. The story is huge and lingers with you for a while after finishing it, i just love those kind of games.
Hot damn I had to re-listen to the first 2 minutes 5 times just to let sink in rhe sickness of the antagonist's role in the plot. Jesus
My goodness!! The way you told this story was incredibly heartbreaking but extremely lovely!!
These kind of dark games really aren't my thing, so it's fun to se a video on it rather then playing it..
Toby Longworth makes this game for me. Cool bloke, his narration is always a pleasure
Audio was a bit quiet on this one, great video nonetheless.
Everyone give a round of applause for Jessica Curry's music because god DAMN, that's what made the game a "meh" at first to a "this is a classic and I've been too harsh."
My only complaint with this game was that it was hardly a game. It was a great tale but hardly any puzzles or meaningful interactions.
I gave the Amnesia Trilogy a try solely for Jessica Currys' music, and finished playing last night. I've got to say 'A Machine For Pigs' is the one that really got to me. From the moment I re-emerged onto the London streets to the final ascent up the temple, I was just swept up in the black maelstrom.
Then I went online to find out about other peoples reactions and everybody hated it?!?!
Then I found Leadhead. Thank you for your words kind sir.
The backlash for this game game from reviewers being sour about the Dear Esther people stripping a lot of game mechanics from Dark Descent. I still enjoyed it. I just felt too safe while playing.