I like how the reviewers who received the Player II for free got flawless instruments, and everyone who actually bought one with their own money found very real flaws. Don't trust reviewers who receive stuff for free. Not because they are dishonest, but because they're getting the best review samples, and you can't trust those.
This is true. I worked in the music industry for over a decade and the service dept had 3 levels of set up: Regular, Artist and finally that "elite" Review level and even £120 ($156 US) guitars were pampered to perfection. A £700 guitar like this would have been tried by the Managing Director personally if going to a reviewer with clout.
@@jp7963great insight, I’ve always assumed this has to be true with all the major brands, they know what they are doing. From a company perspective, influencer reviews can be the absolute best marketing for such a nominal price to the company you’d have to assume they are all over that.
i got one too. mine is bad ass! i love it. but i didn't zoom in on it with hd cam and stare at it from one end to the other. i grabbed it and started playing it.
It looks to me like the skunk stripe is exhibiting differential shrinkage, possibly because of moisture in the wood. Or, pressure from the truss rod has caused it to move, cracking the lacquer. With that problem, plus the neck joint cracks and the sitar noise, I'd send the guitar back. It's a reject.
@@lyricbread Must be a recent issue, I have a mim 2009 fender standard strat that's never had problems. It puts so many US made strats I've played to absolute shame it's the sole reason I don't care for US made instruments
I just got a Fender Player Mustang PJ bass and it arrived in perfect condition. The intonation on the E and A string was a little off but that was an easy fix. Setup out of the box was great and neck relief was good. No tweaks needed there. The intonation is understandable but took about 15 minutes to dial in.
Skunk stripe and neck wood dry out at different rates. Kinda like what causes fret sprout. Usually super easy fix, though it goes to show fenders qc is still a little lacking
Correct. The neck (Maple) wood is a different wood species than used for the stripe (walnut). While both are classified as hardwoods, they have different densities and react to moisture levels at different rates.
Tired of hearing or seeing that comment. American made strats may be much more expensive that MIM strats. Whether or not it worth the price difference is a worthy question. But when we start to delude ourselves into thinking they are virtually the same? No. Please. Out of 6 MIM's 5 of them I owned had issues that there was no business for them to have required more work. Buzzing like a GD hornets nest that took several trips to techs. Frets, tuning, truss rod and craftsmanship issues usually. I had one- with no major issues. ONE. One of the remainders I just gave up and sent back. For about 1200 you get a japanese made strat. Zero issues. Craftsmanship is amazing on those guitars. At the price point MIM's are at now, you may as well spring for a Japanese model if you don;t want to go USA. I've had minor issues if any at all with my American made strats once they were set up properly. I get that the American model are expensive, but I value my time and my money, and I got sick and tired of techs getting to know me on a first name basis for having to get MIM strats worked on . BTW - the one with no major issues? An FSR seafoam pearl strat that was on sale at GC in 2018 or 19 for 499. Incredible! I put 59 pure vintage pups in that thing, a bone nut later- and it sounds great, is very well built. I was shocked, but it came highly recommended. I'd be interested though to know how the Player 2's are. But please, please spare me these comments that minimize the differences between MIMs, Japanese and American made Fenders. Enough with that BS already.
The size and shape of the neck are what I'm most interested in these days as an older guy. I'm not much of a green person, but that color looks really good with the rosewood style neck, in my opinion.
The small cracks at the sides of the neck pocket occur in a lot of strats and teles, often due to the maple neck expanding and contracting as a result of changes in humidity and temperature, sometimes in transportation, and often at home (with change of climate or season). When my custom tele was shipped, the gap was large enough to fit a thin guitar pick, and then closed up altogether during the summer (humidity) as the neck expanded.
Honestly, the quality on both my gibsons is pretty darn good. They’re probably still not as consistent as they should be, but I feel like they’ve gotten it together in the past couple years.
I think l Fender are worse. They have a habit of sending out guitars with really fundamental issues like the nut and the bridge being out of line so the strings go at an angle across the neck. Gibson are a bit sloppy with their finishing, but they have the basic fundamentals correct.
I bought a brand new PRS Silver Sky SE that came with a chip in the pickguard (very obvious) and the fretwork was TERRIBLE. It’s total luck of the draw with new guitars at a low price point really. Fender and Gibson get a lot of haters but a lot of the time with a cheap Fender if you put in abit of work on a sub £1000 guitar you can have a really great guitar. Just buy second hand haha!
@@McBoggler Generally my most reliable trusty guitars are second hand. I look at it like, if something bad was going to happen to the guitar, it would have happened already. And maybe it did and it’s been fixed.
I recently got this guitar, and I agree its really nice to look at and hold. I get tons of compliments about the color and look. I change the plastic nut to a bone nut and it definitely improved the sound. overall its a great guitar.
Pau Ferro is cringey! I'm not hating, I've had cheap guitars for years. But buying a "Fender" and it's Pau Ferro?! It's depressing. They should scrap that whole line. It makes the brand look bad.
@@santigardipee9303 I prefer rosewood but I've got a jazzmaster with pau ferro fretboard and it looks amazing and is so smooth to play. I absolutely love it.
I mean it is a lot cheaper now than at release adjusted for inflation the strat was 2740$. and honestly when you buy a fender at that price you get an exceptional guitar
Typical Fender MIM issues. My Player showed up with sharp fret shoulders (not sprout; the edges left from filing the fret back hadn't been rounded); the saddle height screws stuck way out and were sharp (felt like it was scratching or cut my hand when muting; and the bolt on the end of the tension rod was completely off the rod... just rattling around in there. OTOH my MIJ Strat was bang on perfect! In fit and finish it was the equal to or better than any American-made strat I've played. HTH.
MIJ guitars period are very high quality with tighter QC than American instruments I would say. Shame we don't have full access to the MIJ stuff as they have great taste in colours and combinations.
I had that banjo or sitar thing on G strings normally on MIM strats. Bridge to nut height adjustment is needed that techs usually have a hack thing to fix, Fixing the symptom rather than the cause is a common thing with Techs- especially if they know or think you are a beginner. That happened to me until I just got peaved and returned the guitar and explained that the tech was being a creep about the matter. Appreciate your honesty.
I'm always blown away by new Fenders. So shiny! I punched in the serial number for my old Baja tele in to the Fender website the other day for fun and it has a photo of the guitar when it was new and I was shocked how "road worn" mine is by comparison after 17 years of playing. I didn't even think it was that bad .. but wow yeah, the new ones are SHINY aren't they?
Yeah, but the last decade people are having, and pays top dollars for a new used worn guitar,. Instead of waiting some 20-30 years on,.. The want it to appear like used every day!.
I have a player series special run with custom shop fat 50s pickups and a roasted maple neck. A great guitar with absolutely zero faults. Set up was spot on. Compares favourably with my American deluxe tele that cost more than 3x as much.
A rosewood board guitar should never have a skunk stripe on it anyway. Because the truss rod is put in before the fingerboard is glued on, it has the 2 way rod at the headstock allen key adjustment to. So it should not have the filler strip. nice sounding and Color is unique, pea, lima, avocado, foliage Green.
I've actually had tremendous good luck, I guess, because every Mexican Fender Precision bass I've bought has been fantastic. I own a Fender Custom Shop precision, and I still am quite impressed with the quality for the price.
I bought a Player II at the beginning of the week. It is perfect, none of the cosmetic issues you found. But I did try about 4 in the shop. Yours does stay in tune better after using the tremolo though, but I'm not a tremolo user, so I don't care about that. I've given up buying blind over the internet. Trying out in the shop is the only way to control what you're getting.
This philosophy about guitar buying is spot on. There are so many inconsistencies and quality differences between each guitar, you have to try them all.
Well, the skunk strip can be smoothed out with 0000 steel wool. The neck can often have pocket cracks during shipping. All one has to do is reset the neck by either loosening the screws or take it off completely and then reattach on the pocket.
Unfortunate about the issues with yours. I tried one with a maple board at the store, couldn't stop thinking about it for a month, and brought it home. I gave it a set up to work with 10s I like. Even though it's supposed to be my backup guitar I'm already going back and forth between it and my Silver Sky SE all the time.
Those are QC issues. Nothing out of the norm for a Fender/Squire product - especially a new. . . ish model. BUT comparing that guitar's finishings to any PRS SE model I've ever picked up is a stretch in my opinion. If I spent the money to buy that Fender and it showed up with problems like those, I'd call a spade a spade and send it back. Hope you decide to do the same. Great intro playing as always Sir!
Absolutely agree, and it really is the same with absolutely every new Fender product - the first batches always have issues, and compared to the really expensive AV II strat I received when they hit the streets (which actually needed shimming to get the neck straight and a completely new nut, since the included one was cut too low), this Player II was still pretty decent with the skunk stripe being the only real deal breaker. That e string might fix itself when changing strings - I had that more than once and putting proper NYXLs on the guitar fixed it every time, Fender strings are just garbage.
@@0091stefan It's not like a consistent group of luthiers building an instrument. It is mass production and automation. Absolutely every change is a reset, requiring re-calibration, adjustment of tools, and re-training of 'luthiers' whose qualification is a 3-hour introduction to neck sanding after they failed the 'sandwich artist' qualification at Subways...
@@somerandomguy180 Totally correct, given that the two biggest 'improvements' are rosewood and vintage tuners, both something like 70 years young. QC would cost more money than paying a few influencers (not talking about Jonathan) to train buyers to accept that every new guitar needs part changes, a professional setup, neck adjustments, fret polishing, other pickups etc ad lib... Obviously the electric guitar is the only product in existence that does not need to be flawless out of the box. We return a 20 USD alarm clock for minor cosmetical issues, but a basically unusable Murphy Lab guitar for 10k is just dandy.
I went in to my local music store yesterday to see if they had a few I could play. I played the burst with rosewood fingerboard. A bit of a let down. I wandered around a bit. Saw an Ibanez AZES40 in Mint Green. Fit and finish looked excellent. Placed my hand around the neck first. Felt good. Took it off the wall and played it unplugged. Compared to the Player II, it was more resonant and easier to play. Last stop was to plug it into the same amp I played the Player II through. I was pleasantly surprised. It just reinforced the fact that you have to look beyond the hype and trust your ears and hands. Yeah, the Fender Strat's visual aesthetics are iconic - I have three Strats, but man, the sound, playability, and PRICE difference of the Ibanez will make me think twice before buying a Player II. I'm waiting for Fender to release a Coral Red non-chambered Tele with rosewood fingerboard; now that might make me pull the trigger!
When I first started playing (almost 5 decades ago), Ibanez made crappy LP & Strat knockoffs that sold for $150 new. They've come a long way since then. Their instruments are top quality now. Yet, I still find myself drawn to "the Big Two", citing resale value to justify it. Truthfully, I'm just a marketing victim/guitar snob. Lol!
All woods expand and shrink at different levels. It’s common for the skunk stripe to be felt. With that being said I think that guitar has experienced another issue. The neck cracks and the skunk stripe issue less me that guitar either get hit OR more likely was stored improperly. It took on moisture or a very fast extreme temperature change. This is why they say leave it in the box for a day inside your house to acclimate to your climate. Even a ride in a plane can do that. Change in humidity temperature and altitude can do crazy things to a guitar
Just picked up the new Player II Telecaster, blue, also directly from Fender to take advantage of their 10% new buyer deal. Normally buy from Sweetwater who, yes, would have screened your Strat issues and not shipped it. They were out of stock with the Telecaster, tight inventory that they run. I normally have strong customer loyalty with them. No such issues with my Tele though I have had QC problems with several of the higher end made in the U.S. models in the past. Returned those. I got seduced by the Player II Tele commercial with Julian Lange for Guitar Center and love the tone and neck of this instrument. Hopefully the input jack will stay put but if not, I’ll get it replaced and keep this, assuming I don’t have any wiring issues crop up. Didn’t weigh it but it’s under 8 pounds.
I have just returned a Player ii Stratocaster with a coral red finish. The coral red was not as I had seen in internet pictures, it was like fiesta red with a hideous orange tint. The fretboard was bone dry with a discolouration all over the board, there was a neck pocket lacquer crack, and the rolled edges were non existent. I have always been a Fender player but I was amazed (not in a good way) at the terrible quality control on this. I bought a PRS SE Silver Sky instead and was delighted with the quality control. C'mon Fender, get you act together !!
First, let me say that I really enjoyed your playing. It made me a little envious; I wish I'D played some of that stuff!😎 YOU might wind up a little envious of ME, since I have a Donner Stratoid very like your Player II, but with a deep green translucent finish that's truly lovely -- for less money!😎 I would like to share some wisdom that might save some folks some money and take the fear out of guitar ownership. Dylan of Dylan Talks Tone makes the very cogent point that when a guitar is stored or shipped, no one can touch it, and so nothing that needs to be touched in order to move can move. Therefore, the only thing that can move on an untouched guitar is the neck, which will tend to respond to current weather conditions to some degree or another. This is particularly true of inexpensive guitars made of recently-cut lumber, as their water content is very high relative to older woods. This high water content makes the newer wood more sensitive to current humidity, while dryer woods will tend to ignore such changes. The big takeaway, though, is that with a guitar that hasn't been played or touched for a while for whatever reason, if it doesn't play well, your first move should be to straighten the guitar's neck. To those who don't know how, LEARN! There are RUclips videos by the dozens that take you through the entire process. It's easy and safe for your guitar -- AND with one of these things that's been sitting around doing nothing, it may very well be the only thing you need to do to make that guitar play great. The last setup may have been done very well, and all you have to do to put it back that way is make the neck straight again. Try it; you can't wind up worse off, and you may end up saving LOADS of time!
They are pretty, and I do think they're an overall upgrade from the first Player series. But there's definitely a noticeable difference between the Mexican "standard" models and American ones. I'm lucky enough to own a Jimmie Vaughan Strat with American hardware and a 1995 Tex Mex (bodies and necks were crafted in the US, finished in Mexico) and the difference between those and the standard I've got are night and day. I don't think anything will replace my 95 Tex Mex. It's the best Strat I've ever played.
I've noticed a bit of Ghost Ringing lately. My first target was Trem Springs, which I damped with rolled up single sheets of bog roll. Nope, though it Has been a problem before now. One one guitar it was a slack Saddle Spring. My Silver Sky SE has the Ghost Ringing on the B and the G. I think I've found it. Back of the nut Sitar'ing on the back stretch to the tuner. Just damping the headstock doesn't kill it but touching the string IN the slot stops it.
Done with Fender QC. Got so many lemons. Went to a store, and got a Godin stadium ht. So much quality and craftmanship (made in Canada) for Mexican price Fender but feels equal as to any high end usa Fender. You should really give this brand a go Jonathan.
I'm thinking that the sitar sound on a fretted note would have to be coming from the saddle. Yes/No? The guck around the skunk stripe is a "send it back". Otherwise, some lovely tones. My 2021 Player Strat reminds me how much I love it every time I pick it up.
No I think it's the nut height. I did the super glue backing soda trick in nut slot and that fixed it. If you want to do an AB comparison. Put a piece of paper in that nut slot to raise the string height at nut, see if you still have "sitar" sounding string.
I have went through a few and had the same issues. I'm actually mad at Fender that I can't find a decent made guitar from them. Every one had small little issues that prevent it from being a good guitar that I would want to keep. Sad thing about it is that you can also get these issues in a USA made. The worst is the nut cut - they all look different like nobody knows how to do it. Some of them not even cut straight and cut at an angle. Had problems with low e or high e wanting to slide off the fretboard cuz you can't get it right.
The skunk stripe is a structural part of the neck, supporting the trussrod. If it moved, then its likely to be broken and it will only get worse. That sitar sound isn't great either - It suggests to me the neck is not straight, or at the least needs a proper setup. I love the colour though.
Interested about your comments regarding peach guitars. I bought a player plus from them 12 months ago they may have opened the box but they certainly didn't set it up the trem was jacked up badly cut nut causing buzzing on 1 and 2 string and cut way too high on the bass strings and some small paint flaws. I agree with your comments regarding QC it's not good enough for a guitar that was over £800. Peach should have addressed the issues before it went out the door and packed it properly for dispatch rather than throw it with no packaging support inside a cardboard box Don't believe their BS. If I ever buy again from the I would go to store and check what your getting. You can't beat viewing before you buy.
I bought a 95 US strat for under 500$ this week , naturally reliced white with matching headstock life is crazy and unpredictable 😂 I thought my whole life I will at best afford a Mexican which I liked !
John - several times now you have mentioned about power for your HX Stomp and forgetting the power supply.... you don't need to use the power supply... you can use a double adapter from your peddle power unit - The unit must put out 500ma each, so 1000ma in total at 9v - the Strymon Zuma is perfect for this.
@gm5873h I wouldn't say that at all, also have a tele now which I love. Just wasn't blown away with the Player ii that I played. Ended up with an Highway One tele and love it
@@kevinwightman1 i agree, i had a highway one strat I should never have sold. I love teles, just the boxiness ruins the ergo if you know what i mean, j don't hate them, I love the sound
The sitaring effect on the E-string is an easy fix. It's just the nut that wasn't properly cut there, it should be at a slight angle downwards - lowest point at the headstock. If it was cut too flat, that's what you get. But that thing at the skunk stripe is what worries me most. With most shops offering a 30 day money back guarantee, I would send it back and order a new one. Sounds great though! I used to have a 2007 mexican strat that was great, but the fretwire they used on those things wears out faster than the sole on a pair of shoes. Is that any better nowadays? I wound up building a great partscaster for not too much money, neck has stainless steel frets that last forever.
I had the same sunk strip issue on my Mark Hoppus bass last year right out of the box too. Thought I could play through it, but you could feel it on every song. Thankfully Fender replaced it pretty quickly with no issue.
That thing is BEAUTIFUL! Not shocked to see the basic issues. Fender REALLY need to get it together. The unLevel frets are BS and that truss rod cover on the back of the neck is BS as well 👎🏻. I’ve started just buying the Cassic Vibes. Probably order a Warmoth neck with Jumbo frets. That color rocks and your audio and playing are fabulous! 6.5 out of 10 though Fender. Get it together 😮
I used to work in a guitar shop and the sitar e string was a problem on most player series guitars, so disappointing to see they didn’t resolve it in this one… still have no idea what causes it
Don’t understand no coral red with a maple board. They offer it on the jazz bass and it would the combo that would have me pull the trigger. Looking forward to checking the mahogany body Tele, with maple board. Played a coral red one today and the neck shape and frets were to my liking but the factory set up on string height was really bad. Very high and uneven. You pick up any Silver Sky SE and they play really well (just don’t care for their pickups, too mellow/warm). Plus terrible color options on the Silver Sky’s.
Mine overall was pretty good. I did have to do some fret leveling and nut filing to get it to be able to setup the way I wanted it. I got mine for $720 and with me doing the work, it was well worth it.
I bought one, that exact color. No issues ... it's a beautiful instrument ... I've owned enough Fenders though to not be surprised by QC issues ... they exist and are frustrating ... Cheers!
The fretwork is pretty decent, no sharp edges or anything, neck feels comfortably rolled, and pretty decently polished, so it's not got that scrapey feeling that you get on some guitars out of the factory when bending/vibrato. The top E has a bit of a sitar thing going on, not sure if that's a bridge or nut thing causing that though
The fret finish on mine was quite nice, the level of the frets, however wasn’t great. Had 3 frets that were a little high. I can do the work myself so no big deal, but if I hadn’t the ability to do it, I would’ve returned it.
@@thathomiefox Yeah, I seen all the Fender logos on the box and stickers but I just didn't realize it was an actual Fender model, I thought it was some renamed Squier Affinity or something.
I am a massive MIM fan. But I am not seeing a need to rush out and upgrade. Those pocket cracks to me show poor handling during production, which is a shame. Crack like that are normally cause by side ways movement of the neck in the pocket, normally when the guitar is carried by the neck. Skunk stripe is also upsetting. Fender only has one chance of making a first impression with this line up. A few shop reviews fall all over themselves to sing the praise of this model. Indie reviews are finding small issues. I always buy from a shop. And preferably one off the wall. It has been played a few times and all the small setup stuff fixed. We must support shops before they all disappear. Fender is talking of the rolled edges, but no one seems to be making much noise about it. That is the only thing that would have me pull the trigger. So perhaps they are not as rolled or impressive as Fender says. Thanks for the review. Very enlightening.
Well Jonny lad, the issue on the back of the neck at the skunk stripe is the same issue that I have on my new Vintera II 50s. So Ensenada does have a problem.
I bought a GuitarGuitar limited edition Player Strat (Roasted maple neck; custom shop pups; etc) and the very end of the skunk stripe feels very slightly raised. It doesn’t affect playability, per se, but I can feel it when I’m down that end and it irritates me that it’s happened to a £900 guitar. Definitely echo your Peach recommendation, as I recently bought a PRS SE Paul’s Guitar from them, and it was very clear it had been unboxed and thoroughly checked out.
To be honest there were bound to be issues with this model, I don't know what the 60 cycle hum is like but I would have to put some vintage ultra noiseless pickups in which defeats the reason for purchasing this model, better still, purchase the ultra strat and be done with it, you need a quality guitar to gig with forever not something that you have to keep faffing around with, the cheap price should make you very aware, I have been gigging Gibson Les Paul deluxes with their mini humbuckers for decades and have never even had to undo the truss rod covers, QUALITY counts.
I have an older player series Strat that also has that unidentifiable buzz on the high e string, though not as pronounced as yours. It’s quite annoying but seems to not be noticeable with 11s on, I forgot and put 10s on and it’s buzzing again 😒. I believe it comes from the bridge saddle.
Played 2 of these yesterday. One was incredible, and the other had a really dry neck. I feel like a lot of it is luck. Ended up picking up a partscaster for 499 great instrument.
I think I can get over the nut, that's easily fixed, but I would be furious if I bought a brand new guitar and there were pocket cracks out of the box and the neck was delaminating. It's a shame because it sounded good.
Sometimes the skunk strip will shrink due to temperature change, i have a Stratocaster that has been like this for forty years and there’s no issue with it
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I like how the reviewers who received the Player II for free got flawless instruments, and everyone who actually bought one with their own money found very real flaws. Don't trust reviewers who receive stuff for free. Not because they are dishonest, but because they're getting the best review samples, and you can't trust those.
This is true. I worked in the music industry for over a decade and the service dept had 3 levels of set up: Regular, Artist and finally that "elite" Review level and even £120 ($156 US) guitars were pampered to perfection. A £700 guitar like this would have been tried by the Managing Director personally if going to a reviewer with clout.
@@jp7963great insight, I’ve always assumed this has to be true with all the major brands, they know what they are doing. From a company perspective, influencer reviews can be the absolute best marketing for such a nominal price to the company you’d have to assume they are all over that.
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Exactly correct !
Yep
i got one too. mine is bad ass! i love it. but i didn't zoom in on it with hd cam and stare at it from one end to the other. i grabbed it and started playing it.
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Very cool to hear!! If you look hard enough you will find very slight flaws on very high end "Boutique Guitars" as well!!
It looks to me like the skunk stripe is exhibiting differential shrinkage, possibly because of moisture in the wood. Or, pressure from the truss rod has caused it to move, cracking the lacquer. With that problem, plus the neck joint cracks and the sitar noise, I'd send the guitar back. It's a reject.
Agree, that skunk stripe issue is bad. Return and get a good one. Love the rosewood fretboard.
Wouldn’t surprise me. All Mexican made Fenders and Charvels are constructed out of green wood.
@@lyricbread Must be a recent issue, I have a mim 2009 fender standard strat that's never had problems. It puts so many US made strats I've played to absolute shame it's the sole reason I don't care for US made instruments
@@caspay21 Wow, you've had some bad luck. My 2024 player tele is OK.
Yeah, I have a Strat this happened to. It's old though, and it came from salty aired Florida to Illinois.
Great video John! I’m from Mexico and just for your info, Ensenada is in Baja California, Mexico! Congrats in your channel 🎉
I just got a Fender Player Mustang PJ bass and it arrived in perfect condition. The intonation on the E and A string was a little off but that was an easy fix. Setup out of the box was great and neck relief was good. No tweaks needed there. The intonation is understandable but took about 15 minutes to dial in.
Skunk stripe and neck wood dry out at different rates. Kinda like what causes fret sprout. Usually super easy fix, though it goes to show fenders qc is still a little lacking
Correct. The neck (Maple) wood is a different wood species than used for the stripe (walnut). While both are classified as hardwoods, they have different densities and react to moisture levels at different rates.
You can buy a strat assembled by a Mexican in Mexico or a strat assembled by a Mexican in Corona California.
Pretty much
This one is Indonesia
Tired of hearing or seeing that comment. American made strats may be much more expensive that MIM strats. Whether or not it worth the price difference is a worthy question. But when we start to delude ourselves into thinking they are virtually the same? No. Please. Out of 6 MIM's 5 of them I owned had issues that there was no business for them to have required more work. Buzzing like a GD hornets nest that took several trips to techs. Frets, tuning, truss rod and craftsmanship issues usually. I had one- with no major issues. ONE. One of the remainders I just gave up and sent back. For about 1200 you get a japanese made strat. Zero issues. Craftsmanship is amazing on those guitars. At the price point MIM's are at now, you may as well spring for a Japanese model if you don;t want to go USA. I've had minor issues if any at all with my American made strats once they were set up properly. I get that the American model are expensive, but I value my time and my money, and I got sick and tired of techs getting to know me on a first name basis for having to get MIM strats worked on . BTW - the one with no major issues? An FSR seafoam pearl strat that was on sale at GC in 2018 or 19 for 499. Incredible! I put 59 pure vintage pups in that thing, a bone nut later- and it sounds great, is very well built. I was shocked, but it came highly recommended. I'd be interested though to know how the Player 2's are. But please, please spare me these comments that minimize the differences between MIMs, Japanese and American made Fenders. Enough with that BS already.
Ensanada is in Mexico...
@@kkrsnn5632there are Mexicans in Indonesia too?
Nice to see rosewood back!
The size and shape of the neck are what I'm most interested in these days as an older guy. I'm not much of a green person, but that color looks really good with the rosewood style neck, in my opinion.
I absolutely love the updates they did here. I hope they keep them
The small cracks at the sides of the neck pocket occur in a lot of strats and teles, often due to the maple neck expanding and contracting as a result of changes in humidity and temperature, sometimes in transportation, and often at home (with change of climate or season). When my custom tele was shipped, the gap was large enough to fit a thin guitar pick, and then closed up altogether during the summer (humidity) as the neck expanded.
Seems Fender are in competition with Gibson as far as piss poor quality control is concerned.
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Honestly, the quality on both my gibsons is pretty darn good. They’re probably still not as consistent as they should be, but I feel like they’ve gotten it together in the past couple years.
I think l Fender are worse. They have a habit of sending out guitars with really fundamental issues like the nut and the bridge being out of line so the strings go at an angle across the neck.
Gibson are a bit sloppy with their finishing, but they have the basic fundamentals correct.
I bought a brand new PRS Silver Sky SE that came with a chip in the pickguard (very obvious) and the fretwork was TERRIBLE. It’s total luck of the draw with new guitars at a low price point really.
Fender and Gibson get a lot of haters but a lot of the time with a cheap Fender if you put in abit of work on a sub £1000 guitar you can have a really great guitar.
Just buy second hand haha!
@@McBoggler Generally my most reliable trusty guitars are second hand. I look at it like, if something bad was going to happen to the guitar, it would have happened already.
And maybe it did and it’s been fixed.
Love the colour!
It's GORGEOUS isn't it!
I'm eyeing the Telecaster hard in that color, I love it. Reminds me of my Nana's 1980's fridge in a warm, fuzzy retro way.
The player series at my guitar center is actually really great . Stays tune even with the wammy being used .
I recently got this guitar, and I agree its really nice to look at and hold. I get tons of compliments about the color and look. I change the plastic nut to a bone nut and it definitely improved the sound. overall its a great guitar.
Isn't the colour pretty!
I appreciate your honest reviews. Overall I quite like the look of these new models.
Love the fact that rosewood is back for Fender low-mid tier guitars
Pau Ferro is cringey! I'm not hating, I've had cheap guitars for years. But buying a "Fender" and it's Pau Ferro?! It's depressing. They should scrap that whole line. It makes the brand look bad.
@@santigardipee9303 I prefer rosewood but I've got a jazzmaster with pau ferro fretboard and it looks amazing and is so smooth to play. I absolutely love it.
bruh. imagine making one and the same guitar for 70 years and you still manage to screw it up
Well said
😂 yep
very good comment
I mean it is a lot cheaper now than at release adjusted for inflation the strat was 2740$. and honestly when you buy a fender at that price you get an exceptional guitar
That’s why I always buy from Sweetwater, they always do their inspection prior to sending to customers so something like this wouldn’t pass them
The skunk stripe is often due to movement inte neck and improper/rushed drying process when building the neck. Lovely color!
Typical Fender MIM issues. My Player showed up with sharp fret shoulders (not sprout; the edges left from filing the fret back hadn't been rounded); the saddle height screws stuck way out and were sharp (felt like it was scratching or cut my hand when muting; and the bolt on the end of the tension rod was completely off the rod... just rattling around in there.
OTOH my MIJ Strat was bang on perfect! In fit and finish it was the equal to or better than any American-made strat I've played. HTH.
My 2024 player tele's frets are good, the stain on the back of the neck is a little uneven and nut is ok but not the greatest.
MIJ guitars period are very high quality with tighter QC than American instruments I would say. Shame we don't have full access to the MIJ stuff as they have great taste in colours and combinations.
My MIJ JV 50s Tele is flawless
“A beautiful toilet” - now that’s high praise!
And yet you make it sound so good!
I had that banjo or sitar thing on G strings normally on MIM strats. Bridge to nut height adjustment is needed that techs usually have a hack thing to fix, Fixing the symptom rather than the cause is a common thing with Techs- especially if they know or think you are a beginner. That happened to me until I just got peaved and returned the guitar and explained that the tech was being a creep about the matter. Appreciate your honesty.
I'm always blown away by new Fenders. So shiny! I punched in the serial number for my old Baja tele in to the Fender website the other day for fun and it has a photo of the guitar when it was new and I was shocked how "road worn" mine is by comparison after 17 years of playing. I didn't even think it was that bad .. but wow yeah, the new ones are SHINY aren't they?
Yeah, but the last decade people are having, and pays top dollars for a new used worn guitar,. Instead of waiting some 20-30 years on,.. The want it to appear like used every day!.
I have a player series special run with custom shop fat 50s pickups and a roasted maple neck. A great guitar with absolutely zero faults. Set up was spot on. Compares favourably with my American deluxe tele that cost more than 3x as much.
A rosewood board guitar should never have a skunk stripe on it anyway. Because the truss rod is put in before the fingerboard is glued on, it has the 2 way rod at the headstock allen key adjustment to. So it should not have the filler strip. nice sounding and Color is unique, pea, lima, avocado, foliage Green.
Yep that's what made me curious as well. Why do these models have a skunk stripe?
I've actually had tremendous good luck, I guess, because every Mexican Fender Precision bass I've bought has been fantastic. I own a Fender Custom Shop precision, and I still am quite impressed with the quality for the price.
I think this Is normal
I got one and have had none of these issues thankfully
Beautiful Fender with rosewood fretboard and rolled edges 😍
I bought a Player II at the beginning of the week. It is perfect, none of the cosmetic issues you found. But I did try about 4 in the shop. Yours does stay in tune better after using the tremolo though, but I'm not a tremolo user, so I don't care about that.
I've given up buying blind over the internet. Trying out in the shop is the only way to control what you're getting.
I had one ordered and shipped to my house. Besides a good setup it looked and almost sounded flawless.
This philosophy about guitar buying is spot on. There are so many inconsistencies and quality differences between each guitar, you have to try them all.
Well, the skunk strip can be smoothed out with 0000 steel wool. The neck can often have pocket cracks during shipping. All one has to do is reset the neck by either loosening the screws or take it off completely and then reattach on the pocket.
Unfortunate about the issues with yours. I tried one with a maple board at the store, couldn't stop thinking about it for a month, and brought it home. I gave it a set up to work with 10s I like. Even though it's supposed to be my backup guitar I'm already going back and forth between it and my Silver Sky SE all the time.
Those are QC issues. Nothing out of the norm for a Fender/Squire product - especially a new. . . ish model. BUT comparing that guitar's finishings to any PRS SE model I've ever picked up is a stretch in my opinion. If I spent the money to buy that Fender and it showed up with problems like those, I'd call a spade a spade and send it back. Hope you decide to do the same. Great intro playing as always Sir!
Absolutely agree, and it really is the same with absolutely every new Fender product - the first batches always have issues, and compared to the really expensive AV II strat I received when they hit the streets (which actually needed shimming to get the neck straight and a completely new nut, since the included one was cut too low), this Player II was still pretty decent with the skunk stripe being the only real deal breaker. That e string might fix itself when changing strings - I had that more than once and putting proper NYXLs on the guitar fixed it every time, Fender strings are just garbage.
I don’t get what’s the deal with a „new product“, do they reinvent the Strat everytime?
@@0091stefan It's not like a consistent group of luthiers building an instrument. It is mass production and automation. Absolutely every change is a reset, requiring re-calibration, adjustment of tools, and re-training of 'luthiers' whose qualification is a 3-hour introduction to neck sanding after they failed the 'sandwich artist' qualification at Subways...
@@somerandomguy180 Totally correct, given that the two biggest 'improvements' are rosewood and vintage tuners, both something like 70 years young.
QC would cost more money than paying a few influencers (not talking about Jonathan) to train buyers to accept that every new guitar needs part changes, a professional setup, neck adjustments, fret polishing, other pickups etc ad lib... Obviously the electric guitar is the only product in existence that does not need to be flawless out of the box. We return a 20 USD alarm clock for minor cosmetical issues, but a basically unusable Murphy Lab guitar for 10k is just dandy.
MIM's be prepared to visit your tech a few times for more than just upgrades. Just sayin'.
I went in to my local music store yesterday to see if they had a few I could play. I played the burst with rosewood fingerboard. A bit of a let down. I wandered around a bit. Saw an Ibanez AZES40 in Mint Green. Fit and finish looked excellent. Placed my hand around the neck first. Felt good. Took it off the wall and played it unplugged. Compared to the Player II, it was more resonant and easier to play. Last stop was to plug it into the same amp I played the Player II through. I was pleasantly surprised. It just reinforced the fact that you have to look beyond the hype and trust your ears and hands. Yeah, the Fender Strat's visual aesthetics are iconic - I have three Strats, but man, the sound, playability, and PRICE difference of the Ibanez will make me think twice before buying a Player II. I'm waiting for Fender to release a Coral Red non-chambered Tele with rosewood fingerboard; now that might make me pull the trigger!
When I first started playing (almost 5 decades ago), Ibanez made crappy LP & Strat knockoffs that sold for $150 new. They've come a long way since then. Their instruments are top quality now. Yet, I still find myself drawn to "the Big Two", citing resale value to justify it. Truthfully, I'm just a marketing victim/guitar snob. Lol!
❤❤Woooa you have a fantastic touch and are first class presenter. Huge thnx I enjoyed and leaned soo much from you. Just amazing.
All woods expand and shrink at different levels. It’s common for the skunk stripe to be felt. With that being said I think that guitar has experienced another issue. The neck cracks and the skunk stripe issue less me that guitar either get hit OR more likely was stored improperly. It took on moisture or a very fast extreme temperature change. This is why they say leave it in the box for a day inside your house to acclimate to your climate.
Even a ride in a plane can do that. Change in humidity temperature and altitude can do crazy things to a guitar
Just picked up the new Player II Telecaster, blue, also directly from Fender to take advantage of their 10% new buyer deal. Normally buy from Sweetwater who, yes, would have screened your Strat issues and not shipped it. They were out of stock with the Telecaster, tight inventory that they run. I normally have strong customer loyalty with them.
No such issues with my Tele though I have had QC problems with several of the higher end made in the U.S. models in the past. Returned those.
I got seduced by the Player II Tele commercial with Julian Lange for Guitar Center and love the tone and neck of this instrument. Hopefully the input jack will stay put but if not, I’ll get it replaced and keep this, assuming I don’t have any wiring issues crop up. Didn’t weigh it but it’s under 8 pounds.
I really enjoy the way you play 👏👍
They only had the small knife in stock?
I have just returned a Player ii Stratocaster with a coral red finish. The coral red was not as I had seen in internet pictures, it was like fiesta red with a hideous orange tint. The fretboard was bone dry with a discolouration all over the board, there was a neck pocket lacquer crack, and the rolled edges were non existent. I have always been a Fender player but I was amazed (not in a good way) at the terrible quality control on this. I bought a PRS SE Silver Sky instead and was delighted with the quality control. C'mon Fender, get you act together !!
First, let me say that I really enjoyed your playing. It made me a little envious; I wish I'D played some of that stuff!😎 YOU might wind up a little envious of ME, since I have a Donner Stratoid very like your Player II, but with a deep green translucent finish that's truly lovely -- for less money!😎 I would like to share some wisdom that might save some folks some money and take the fear out of guitar ownership. Dylan of Dylan Talks Tone makes the very cogent point that when a guitar is stored or shipped, no one can touch it, and so nothing that needs to be touched in order to move can move. Therefore, the only thing that can move on an untouched guitar is the neck, which will tend to respond to current weather conditions to some degree or another. This is particularly true of inexpensive guitars made of recently-cut lumber, as their water content is very high relative to older woods. This high water content makes the newer wood more sensitive to current humidity, while dryer woods will tend to ignore such changes. The big takeaway, though, is that with a guitar that hasn't been played or touched for a while for whatever reason, if it doesn't play well, your first move should be to straighten the guitar's neck. To those who don't know how, LEARN! There are RUclips videos by the dozens that take you through the entire process. It's easy and safe for your guitar -- AND with one of these things that's been sitting around doing nothing, it may very well be the only thing you need to do to make that guitar play great. The last setup may have been done very well, and all you have to do to put it back that way is make the neck straight again. Try it; you can't wind up worse off, and you may end up saving LOADS of time!
The quality control on these is all over the place.
They are pretty, and I do think they're an overall upgrade from the first Player series. But there's definitely a noticeable difference between the Mexican "standard" models and American ones.
I'm lucky enough to own a Jimmie Vaughan Strat with American hardware and a 1995 Tex Mex (bodies and necks were crafted in the US, finished in Mexico) and the difference between those and the standard I've got are night and day. I don't think anything will replace my 95 Tex Mex. It's the best Strat I've ever played.
I've noticed a bit of Ghost Ringing lately.
My first target was Trem Springs, which I damped with rolled up single sheets of bog roll.
Nope, though it Has been a problem before now.
One one guitar it was a slack Saddle Spring.
My Silver Sky SE has the Ghost Ringing on the B and the G.
I think I've found it.
Back of the nut Sitar'ing on the back stretch to the tuner.
Just damping the headstock doesn't kill it but touching the string IN the slot stops it.
You're gonna void the warranty opening the box with a knife like that! 😂
Done with Fender QC. Got so many lemons. Went to a store, and got a Godin stadium ht. So much quality and craftmanship (made in Canada) for Mexican price Fender but feels equal as to any high end usa Fender. You should really give this brand a go Jonathan.
Godins are beasts for the price.
I'm thinking that the sitar sound on a fretted note would have to be coming from the saddle. Yes/No?
The guck around the skunk stripe is a "send it back".
Otherwise, some lovely tones.
My 2021 Player Strat reminds me how much I love it every time I pick it up.
Can be spring rattle as well I had this on a mexican strat
@@geralltwilliams2811 Yep.
No I think it's the nut height. I did the super glue backing soda trick in nut slot and that fixed it. If you want to do an AB comparison. Put a piece of paper in that nut slot to raise the string height at nut, see if you still have "sitar" sounding string.
That thing looks and sounds awesome!
I have went through a few and had the same issues. I'm actually mad at Fender that I can't find a decent made guitar from them. Every one had small little issues that prevent it from being a good guitar that I would want to keep. Sad thing about it is that you can also get these issues in a USA made. The worst is the nut cut - they all look different like nobody knows how to do it. Some of them not even cut straight and cut at an angle. Had problems with low e or high e wanting to slide off the fretboard cuz you can't get it right.
The skunk stripe is a structural part of the neck, supporting the trussrod. If it moved, then its likely to be broken and it will only get worse. That sitar sound isn't great either - It suggests to me the neck is not straight, or at the least needs a proper setup. I love the colour though.
That's a colour I did not know I needed. Gorgeous.
Looks like baby puke
I know right ? It's beautiful. Shame about the QC issues
Interested about your comments regarding peach guitars. I bought a player plus from them 12 months ago they may have opened the box but they certainly didn't set it up the trem was jacked up badly cut nut causing buzzing on 1 and 2 string and cut way too high on the bass strings and some small paint flaws. I agree with your comments regarding QC it's not good enough for a guitar that was over £800. Peach should have addressed the issues before it went out the door and packed it properly for dispatch rather than throw it with no packaging support inside a cardboard box Don't believe their BS. If I ever buy again from the I would go to store and check what your getting. You can't beat viewing before you buy.
I bought a 95 US strat for under 500$ this week , naturally reliced white with matching headstock life is crazy and unpredictable 😂 I thought my whole life I will at best afford a Mexican which I liked !
John - several times now you have mentioned about power for your HX Stomp and forgetting the power supply.... you don't need to use the power supply... you can use a double adapter from your peddle power unit - The unit must put out 500ma each, so 1000ma in total at 9v - the Strymon Zuma is perfect for this.
I tried the birch green tele today, wasn't too impressed. Walked out with a Yamaha Revstar Standard with p90s
Teles are uncomfortable, they should have cutawayd like strats on all of them, not just American Ultra, a total deal-breaker for owning a Tele
@gm5873h I wouldn't say that at all, also have a tele now which I love. Just wasn't blown away with the Player ii that I played. Ended up with an Highway One tele and love it
@@kevinwightman1 i agree, i had a highway one strat I should never have sold. I love teles, just the boxiness ruins the ergo if you know what i mean, j don't hate them, I love the sound
The sitaring effect on the E-string is an easy fix. It's just the nut that wasn't properly cut there, it should be at a slight angle downwards - lowest point at the headstock. If it was cut too flat, that's what you get. But that thing at the skunk stripe is what worries me most. With most shops offering a 30 day money back guarantee, I would send it back and order a new one. Sounds great though!
I used to have a 2007 mexican strat that was great, but the fretwire they used on those things wears out faster than the sole on a pair of shoes. Is that any better nowadays? I wound up building a great partscaster for not too much money, neck has stainless steel frets that last forever.
I really like the music you make on it
I’m guessing a super light touch with a green Scotchbright pad would clean up the skunk stripe issue.
I had the same sunk strip issue on my Mark Hoppus bass last year right out of the box too. Thought I could play through it, but you could feel it on every song. Thankfully Fender replaced it pretty quickly with no issue.
JNC-How would you rank this vs a Sire Larry Carlton S Style vs a PRS SE Silver Sky or NFS, or a Schecter Nick Johnston Strat?
What would you recommend, the American performer, this one or silver sky se
That thing is BEAUTIFUL! Not shocked to see the basic issues. Fender REALLY need to get it together. The unLevel frets are BS and that truss rod cover on the back of the neck is BS as well 👎🏻.
I’ve started just buying the Cassic Vibes. Probably order a Warmoth neck with Jumbo frets. That color rocks and your audio and playing are fabulous!
6.5 out of 10 though Fender. Get it together 😮
Beautiful color!
About to get one of those in White Blonde, we'll see how it comes since I live in México
2:28 I legit cried, its so pretty
I used to work in a guitar shop and the sitar e string was a problem on most player series guitars, so disappointing to see they didn’t resolve it in this one… still have no idea what causes it
Don’t understand no coral red with a maple board. They offer it on the jazz bass and it would the combo that would have me pull the trigger. Looking forward to checking the mahogany body Tele, with maple board.
Played a coral red one today and the neck shape and frets were to my liking but the factory set up on string height was really bad. Very high and uneven. You pick up any Silver Sky SE and they play really well (just don’t care for their pickups, too mellow/warm). Plus terrible color options on the Silver Sky’s.
Mine overall was pretty good. I did have to do some fret leveling and nut filing to get it to be able to setup the way I wanted it. I got mine for $720 and with me doing the work, it was well worth it.
I bought one, that exact color. No issues ... it's a beautiful instrument ... I've owned enough Fenders though to not be surprised by QC issues ... they exist and are frustrating ... Cheers!
Fantastic intro playing.
Wonderful playing!
I hope you get a better example and do another review because they’re worth it. I have one and it’s outstanding!! 👍
These new colors are really nice. They look great. Hopefully the fret work is better than the COVID-era player series.
The fretwork is pretty decent, no sharp edges or anything, neck feels comfortably rolled, and pretty decently polished, so it's not got that scrapey feeling that you get on some guitars out of the factory when bending/vibrato. The top E has a bit of a sitar thing going on, not sure if that's a bridge or nut thing causing that though
The fret finish on mine was quite nice, the level of the frets, however wasn’t great. Had 3 frets that were a little high. I can do the work myself so no big deal, but if I hadn’t the ability to do it, I would’ve returned it.
This is a colour from the 50s. My old aunt had this one plastered onto her kitchen and entry.. She called it moss green?.
The skunk defect is really serious. Is it possible because of shrinkage? Because its a new fender line product. Shrinkage usually occurs after years.
I didn't fully read the title and thought I was looking at a Squier for a minute until you started playing.
Ngl I thought it was a squier too until I seen this comment and the head.
@@thathomiefox Yeah, I seen all the Fender logos on the box and stickers but I just didn't realize it was an actual Fender model, I thought it was some renamed Squier Affinity or something.
I am a massive MIM fan. But I am not seeing a need to rush out and upgrade. Those pocket cracks to me show poor handling during production, which is a shame. Crack like that are normally cause by side ways movement of the neck in the pocket, normally when the guitar is carried by the neck.
Skunk stripe is also upsetting. Fender only has one chance of making a first impression with this line up. A few shop reviews fall all over themselves to sing the praise of this model. Indie reviews are finding small issues.
I always buy from a shop. And preferably one off the wall. It has been played a few times and all the small setup stuff fixed. We must support shops before they all disappear.
Fender is talking of the rolled edges, but no one seems to be making much noise about it. That is the only thing that would have me pull the trigger. So perhaps they are not as rolled or impressive as Fender says.
Thanks for the review. Very enlightening.
Yep , i;m still very happy with my squire 40 th anni vintage strat and tele , there just as good as any mim fender but for half the price : )
Well Jonny lad, the issue on the back of the neck at the skunk stripe is the same issue that I have on my new Vintera II 50s. So Ensenada does have a problem.
I know it’s probably been said a million times but sweet machete man so much better than seeing folks using the scissors wide open thing haha
Insert "THIS IS A KNOIFE" comment here
da fuk was that knife!
Wtf is up with that knife. Wasnt sure if i was watching unboxing or doco on vietnam!!
Why not use a chain saw?
what’s with the machete?
Did he use that stupid knife to edit the video? Some of the worse jump cuts ever!
Bruh, Croc Dundee approves 👍🏽
That's not a knife😊
@@HarryBall-fw7pv 😂
so a huge improvement in playability and ready to play out of the box, over the Player John?
Outside of the rosewood board, I don’t really consider anything with this new series to be an upgrade.
2:58 wow, great writing
From what you show, the nut grooves are not wide enough, particularly for the low E.
I bought a GuitarGuitar limited edition Player Strat (Roasted maple neck; custom shop pups; etc) and the very end of the skunk stripe feels very slightly raised. It doesn’t affect playability, per se, but I can feel it when I’m down that end and it irritates me that it’s happened to a £900 guitar. Definitely echo your Peach recommendation, as I recently bought a PRS SE Paul’s Guitar from them, and it was very clear it had been unboxed and thoroughly checked out.
To be honest there were bound to be issues with this model, I don't know what the 60 cycle hum is like but I would have to put some vintage ultra noiseless pickups in which defeats the reason for purchasing this model, better still, purchase the ultra strat and be done with it, you need a quality guitar to gig with forever not something that you have to keep faffing around with, the cheap price should make you very aware, I have been gigging Gibson Les Paul deluxes with their mini humbuckers for decades and have never even had to undo the truss rod covers, QUALITY counts.
I have an older player series Strat that also has that unidentifiable buzz on the high e string, though not as pronounced as yours. It’s quite annoying but seems to not be noticeable with 11s on, I forgot and put 10s on and it’s buzzing again 😒. I believe it comes from the bridge saddle.
refreshing to see rosewood back
Played 2 of these yesterday. One was incredible, and the other had a really dry neck. I feel like a lot of it is luck. Ended up picking up a partscaster for 499 great instrument.
I think I can get over the nut, that's easily fixed, but I would be furious if I bought a brand new guitar and there were pocket cracks out of the box and the neck was delaminating. It's a shame because it sounded good.
Rosewood is back on the menu boys.
My American Pro has the small finish cracks at the neck pocket.
Can you legally carry that knife on the street of 🇬🇧⁉️🤣😂
BTW I like the color of the 🎸‼️👍
Sounds good to me 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Love the colour and rosewood fretboard but not the vintage tuners!
Sometimes the skunk strip will shrink due to temperature change, i have a Stratocaster that has been like this for forty years and there’s no issue with it
it's so weird that they won't put rhythm circuits in their player jazzmasters
Dude, yeah, why can't they just make offsets correctly that aren't hella expensive!
like at least call it something else if you're gonna rip out half of the hardware designed to play jazz with
That's a beautiful color
I thought you were about to go into Cliffs of Dover 3 or 4 times. Lol. You play really well.