Net Zero Intelligence is used by those green skinned people who paid so much money for an overinflated, overweight, overestimated, overpriced, overwhelmed shitbox that spontaneously combusts and therefore turns into an external combustion engine, which is far less controlled and far less efficient then an ICE vehicle! They also are very difficult to turn off when in ECE mode Go figure!
Toyota is doing what it has to do and saying what it has to say. But developing more efficient ICE engines seems to be a no-brainer, so what's not to like?
Mitsubishi and Honda are way ahead of those three in terms of fuel consumption at the current time. I have just spent two weeks around Thailand with a Thai built HR-V hybrid that gave better than 20km/l.
@@Swaggerlot No doubt, and I'm sure they'll be making much the same noises as Toyota to get by until it becomes obvious to even politicians that BEV's are not the only answer. I just don't understand JC's problem here - I wonder has he ever met any Japanese people? Usually very polite and non-confrontational, whilst working hard behind the scenes to solve the problem.
@@davidjb3671 I can think of many past friends that experienced Japanese 'hospitality' in SEA and would not concur with the 'polite and non-confrontational' idea of the Japanese or indeed any motivated big business person..
@@Swaggerlot Well, FWIW my father fought in Burma and my wife is Chinese, but it's difficult to believe anyone could be so crass as to bring up WWII in this context. Seems like you're just looking for a fight, but I'm not, so goodbye.
To paraphrase Monty Python, apart from concrete, steel, transportation, advanced medical care, roads, supermarkets, plastics, all manufactured products, the internet, mass production of food, micro electronics and street lighting, what have hydrocarbons ever done for us?
@steveinoz8188 This planet has been through many climate changes, with several ice ages. To have more than one ice age, there must have been some warming between. I doubt previous ones have been due to us driving our cars. There is conflicting information about the causes of the change, and humans are contributing to, but not causing it. If we stopped using all hydrocarbons instantly, the planet would continue to warm. It is what it does. There's science that has shown global CO2 levels to follow temperature change, not precede it. The biggest problem is population growth. If population was reduced by 30%, things would likely be more sustainable. Without the use of hydrocarbons, we'd be back in the stone age. Granite iphone anyone?
Efficiency alone will never satiate the lust for zero from the rabidly green. Has there ever been a post war period comparable to the insanity we’re currently experiencing?
Not period - just event - Jonestown, on CIA lands if you didn't know, even the source of a modern metaphor 'Drinking the Kool-Aid' which is a very apt metaphor for the green revolution...
It's almost as if there is something major at stake and the longer people ignore it, the more drastic the changes will need to be in the future. Maybe you don't care about what the children will need to do in the future, but lots of people do care. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.
Exactly. Going for the perfect, forcing us all into battery electric vehicles will not work because a) battery electric vehicles are cr@p, b) no way can renewables provide the energy needed to power them, so they run on fossil fuel generated electricity anyway. The good would have been to improve the efficiency of combustion engines and develop lighter smaller cars. Which would have saved far more CO2 at an infinitesimal fraction of the cost.
Many need to watch Tony Heller and start evaluating the threat of CO2 instead of rubber-stamping a billionaires club's wet dream of population reduction and supply-side inflation...
I was driving a 6 litre Calais but have gone to an old 1.8 litre Corolla. Saving heaps. Wife's work car is a 1.25 litre Picanto. both good to drive. We have 40 solar panels, 2 sets of batteries and no bills. Thanks for the education over the years John.
@@chopperking007 And how long will the batteries last for , say, a microwave, a fridge , a few lights and an electric jug. You can get by on those for few days, but longer than that you are going to need the grid to come back to life - especially if you want some hot water for a shave and a shower (and for the pumps to fill the water tower in your suburb, each night.
Everything is consumable,since moving out of home and building a new home I have replaced every electrical appliance while the appliances from my childhood are still going. Things were once made to be durable everything was better in the 1990’s
UK compliant bathroom pull cord switches are a case in point. Your Crabtree or MK switch of old would last around 40 years. Presently I must be on my 5th modern switch in 15 years.
My mother still uses her Philips Vacuum Cleaner, as a wedding present from 1985. I was born in 1986, that thing has lasted all throughout my life, +1 year 😂. Durability isn’t a thing these days, it definitely got left behind somewhere before, the mid 2000 maybe.
Hi John . I agree with everything you said. I carry a lighter in my pocket. Every time someone starts to talk to me about zero emissions I pull my lighter out of my pocket and lite it and say look around you , nothing can be made without fire or some kind of heat.I'm a non smoker by the way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed , but even I understand physics.
@@dzcav3 Depends on the time of day. Here in my country, steel production peaks with solar energy generation as they can get really cheap electricity to run ark furnaces on excess solar. For heating homes however you can't beat a heatpump. Like, you could burn the fuel powering the powerplant in your home and you'd still get a lower increase in temperature than if you would have burned it in the powerplant and used the electricity to run the heatpump.
@@Luka_3D What percentage of the energy potential of the fuel burnt at the power plant do you think makes it to your house as electricity? There is some variation depending on where you live, and electricity companies have been studiously avoiding saying for a good while. The figure is somewhere in the mid to high 30 percent range. Hint, there is a reason electricity universally tends to cost three times as much as gas for the same amount of energy. An air sourced heatpump might be advertised with a maximum heat output of 4 times the electricity burnt, but that multiplying factor takes a hit in the winter. You know when it's cold, and you tend to most want heat. Given gas boilers are at least 90% efficient, you better be getting a multiplication of heat averaging above 2.7 times to be as efficient. That is without allowing for system costs, servicing costs and heating system downtime (breakdowns and time to repair) A shop with lots of fridges and freezers where it is harvesting its own waste heat I can follow. For houses, I'm a bit suspicious.
There is a farm in the NT that has half the property being used to sell carbon credits to a CO2 emitting company. The other half of the farm is being used for beef production. So the company is carbon neutral but the farm isn’t.
John, your suggestion regarding the Polestar 4 battery being sensibly split into building approximately 100 sensible hybrid vehicles makes great sense. The current madness, building cars with batteries which weigh near 600kg and oversize monstrosities weighing near 4 tons is idiocy. The EV Hummer, the fucking Cybertruck and yes, the Kia EV9. Oh, and that stupidly huge BMW EV SUV.
I'm not that worried about Polestar, they'll be gone in a year, but the others have to release bigger and bigger monstrosities as we have here a good ol' rocket problem-batteries have very low energy density so you need a lot of them (in weight) to provide the range people want, but the weight reduces the range so you need to add even more batteries... And then you need to cover that in volume and structural integrity, so you need to build a tank around the battery... Which also adds a lot of weight, for which you need even more batteries...
It will be very interesting to see if the ICE bans various large population governments are planning come to fruition anywhere. I can imagine extensions or exemptions are being negotiated heavily in the background.
@@bcluett1697 honestly that looks like a dream for fools or rich people, I live in Spain and i don't see how they will be able to comply with the no combustion engines for 2030
@@AccessGranted46 i don't trust the companies that are emerging now as if they could change the world while they don't know how to build cars. I trust more the first electric cars that were just electric and not "smart" (I mean cars like the leaf or toys like the twizy)
@@xerr0n But for the ones in virtue signalling, sound more appealing, flexing with a powerful BEV full of high tech features, than a compact, low tech, 1.0L car.
@@RogerM88 the way things are going it wont really be a low tech car either, would rather appreciate it though, we don't need a computer in everything. the internet of trash is an obvious example of why that is. EDIT: typos
@@xerr0n As Auto Journalists, bickering about soft suspensions on cars, making Automakers stiffing them as lower profile tires, the new concept of luxury it's to have the most tech features as possible. Meanwhile there is still a demand for simpler low tech cars, a quick example is the sales hit, Dacia Sandero and the Spring EV.
I think the positive piece out of this is the potential for an extended timeframe for these companies to attempt thermal efficiency improvements with their IC engines. The EU’s “we’re going to ban the sale of IC engines” thing is just stifling creativity and innovation in IC engine development.
Well they had 100 years to improve the efficiency and it peaked at 40%. 50% if you believe some chinese sources. I don't think ice engines are going away. They make excellent small efficient range extenders and heaters. I do however think that by 2030, the conventional gas car is going away since the benefits of a clutch and transmission drive system just aren't there anymore.
Shame you on bringing up the pesky technical thought process when the whole point of modern environmentalism is taking care of the fee-fees first, and if that means dreaming up 'solutions' so be it!
The greens national party actually had a policy where they wanted to ban all semi trailers and replace them with " smaller more efficient trucks". Obviously they don't understand that a semi trailer is more efficient at moving the same amount of cargo, not to mention the wage of only one driver and paying one rego, toll etc reducing the overall price of goods. Literally zero common sense.
@steveinoz8188they have now slightly changed the wording, but policy 26 states 26. Phase out the use of sem0itrailers and B-doubles as the major form of freight transport and replace them with a combination of rail, maritime transport and non-articulated trucks running on renewable energy.
John, as long as we're planning the future around mythical energy, what's wrong with turning the mythical energy into fuel instead of charging mythical batteries? We also can't build batteries at the necessary scale.
Batteries are becoming gigantic quickly. Now the dominant energy source in the California grid- which is the 5th biggest state grid on the planet. Getting big here too.
@@guringai I disagree with your assessment of "batteries becoming the dominant energy source". Batteries just _save_ energy then _pass_ _it_ on. Something else has to charge them. That has to be wind, solar, gas, nuclear or imports from other states. I'll give you a clue: it's not wind or solar !
Johnny come home? ruclips.net/video/2H5Se-9XAVE/видео.htmlsi=QpRLsVVI44gByIZs Be good Johnny? ruclips.net/video/74dvJVwGA6Y/видео.htmlsi=XowCeZmsaxnAYf9- Wonder if they’re the same Johnny?
I can understand small city cars with electric systems, but not these stupid oversized suv things they're concentrating on. And if we hit 30-40% ev fleet, then imagine all the extension cords draped across the pathways. Because a lot of people living in the inner city park on the street or underground carparks below apartments. Fun times ahead for pedestrians.
As the past push towards Diesel engines, behind the EV push even though Greenwashing, it's the objective to lower Oil imports. Wouldn't be surprised if synthetic fuels are feasible at a large scale, Toyota is once again proven right.
That's right. The EU pushed diesels in the 1990s/2000s to reduce co2 emissions. There were government incentives, cash for clunkers etc. How did that market intervention turn out
@@theairstig9164 The main issue with synthetic fuels progress, is the constant fear mongering about a switch of the Power Grid towards Nuclear Reactors.
@@rjbiker66 Beneath the current BEV push from the EU, it's objective to lower Oil imports. The same with China, with the bonus of their Automakers having market dominance. If an Ethanol or Ammonia derivative fuel was able to be produced at a large scale, don't be surprised, the West as China, quickly started to abandon their ICE bans.
Do a bit of research on how synthetic fuels are produced. The embodied energy in synthetic fuels is quite high. Then there's the use of fossil fuels in the production (and biomass), and how many carbon capture machines are there to capture the CO2 from the air?
Climate change I maintain is a net benefit for earth, not a problem. Plant life is thriving due to increased co2 levels, and working in agriculture I can attest that crop yields are rising quickly due to higher CO2 levels. We should applaud higher co2, not view it as a problem. After all when we burn a hydrocarbon, we are simply releasing the co2 from its current sequestered state back into the atmosphere where it came from, long ago.
Poor Australians. Bullshido Politicians flying private jets, people must buy sound castrated cars, taxes on taxes to 'protect' a non existing car industry & accumulating to ridiculous prices. Compare with Dubai: Happy 12 Cyl orchestral sounds in the air. Fuel for under 1/2 $ & love for cars. E.V. = Expensive Vomiting
John you are a breath of fresh air and you have great product knowledge. This might be the CLAYTONS DRINK, THE DRINK YOU HAVE WHEN YOUR NOT HAVING A DRINK. In other words it's the CARBON NEUTRAL FUEL YOU HAVE WHEN YOUR NOT HAVING A CARBON NEUTRAL FUEL. ⛽
Hey John even in the 12th century they were emitting carbon by burning wood and coal. But they also chopped down trees for scaffolding to build castles.
Almost all of us, at least in the so called developed world, could reduce our carbon emissions if we wanted to simply by thinking a little more about what we do and how we do it. If I’m going locally I’ll walk for example. If I’m going into a city centre I might take a bus or a train; that’s often easier, as you haven’t the hassle of trying to find somewhere to park. Many people are in and out, in and out with their cars. John has mentioned planning journeys, so one trip out to achieve maybe 5 goals in the day, rather than 5 separate journeys. There’s a lot of waste of energy. Planning and a bit of thought could go a long way to reducing environmental impact and actually save people money at the same time without a drastic change to their standard of living or quality of life.
Hybrid systems still have significant scope for improvement. That basically means smaller and better ICE engines combined with bigger batteries and inverters.
I was running around in the 70's looking for a f**king red box with a phone in it that worked. Shame we won't be around in 50 years to see what makes cars move
And even that horse will crap everywhere you go creating an environmental problem. Just downsize your car and if it's Japanese it will run for 20 years with basic maintenance.
Oh Thank you that somebody, other than me, get's it. Well said John. If there is one thing that everyone can take away from this video (and I've been saying this for years, the reason my wife wants to belt me over the head as she is tired of me saying it) it is this.... "EV are part of the solution, but NOT the solution". Great video mate. I found your channel a few weeks ago and really enjoy the content.. 👏👏
Hydrogen and Amonia only make sense on big rigs like trucks or boats. One is really hard to store while the other is incredibly dangerous if it gets into contact with your skin. Why not just make range extended evs? Essentially plug in hybrids with larger batteries and smaller engines that run on ethanol?
I like the idea of retrofitting cars for LP gas. LP is extremely common in the US and tends to be relatively cheap, and also clean burning and very high octane. Unfortunately it's not as common in other places. For example, in a recent video, Wade of Dankpods talked on his car channel about getting his old ute Bruce back running using the old timey repair method of just letting it sit for two years, but being LP, it's near impossible to get gas for as despite producing LP, it's not available at a lot of gas stations in Australia like it is here in the US.
@@Luka_3D Ethanol sucks as a fuel and is barely useful as an octane booster. It's less power dense and thus less efficient, and it also loves to absorb water. Diesel is far better for big trucks and heavy duty pickups especially for long haul and heavy loads where you need high reliability and plenty of torque. Unfortunately modern diesels lack the reliability due to overbearing emissions regulations, and high displacement torque monster gas engines like GM's retired big block 8.1 Vortec, Dodge's (iirc also retired) 8L V10 Magnum, or Ford's boat anchor of a relatively small displacement 6.8 V10 tend to drink too much fuel compared to a more efficient pre-emissions diesel.
@@lsswappedcessna I think for semi trucks running long distance it would make more sense to go with hydrogen. The trucks themselves are I think the one sinsible vehicle to be powered by liquid hydrogen due to how they usually operate. Hydrogen fuel cells also have no moving parts so I think they would be more reliable than todays diesels. At the end of the day, it's just about extending the range of the truck beyond what a battery can provide while retaining the benefits of a bev like the regen braking that would save so much money in fuel and brakes.
@@Luka_3D H2, NH3 and bio-fuels all suffer the same problem. They have to be manufactured. Each step in manufacture requires both infrastructure and energy input. And each step there is energy lost. The fuel contains much less energy than required to manufacture it and only delivers at best 30% of the energy it contains. The consequence is that manufactured fuels cost about 10 times more energy than they deliver. Which makes them nonviable both energetically and economically. The serious issue is that fossil fuels are far more finite than most understand. Largely depleted before the end of this century and economically depleted within decades, when the cost of supply is more than the ability to pay.
The thing that raises humanity above all the other animals on the planet is that back in the depths of prehistory, one caveman rubbed two sticks together and created fire (and CO2).
I have 2 independent battery packs about 10kwh usable between them and a shot load of panels. With these short days I'm nearly 80% self consumption, not so much heading out to the grid. These offset my driving a diesel i30 i believe.
I don't understand the editorial content of this video, is it not a good thing that some manufacturers still build ICE cars?? Who cares if they are joined at the hip, who cares how they will produce the next generation fuel? They have the right approach, I am getting the car I want and that's enough for me. John.... well, you need a break, I suggest you plan a nice trip to your favorite creek.
They are celebrating the secret development of an SEP field. ( Somebody Else's Problem, 3rd book, Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, hides the "Bistromatics" ship ( I think I misspelt that, it has been a while )).
@@markh.6687 But Marvin is the one making the most sense in my life. The 1st couple of decades were the worst, the 2nd couple of decades, they were the worst too.After that it went down hill.
It's not just simply that ICE engines may have 70% of the market, affordability is the main issue. Even with a proposed larger percentage the cost of manufacturing a slightly smaller number of ICE vehicles will cost more and this cost will be passed onto the consumer. So when you are in the market for a new vehicle in the next few years and the cost of an EV is markedly less than the ICE version. I think the evolution to electrification will be swift and staggering to anybody who holds onto a future which includes ICE vehicles.
Yes roof top solar is way to go.....esp in country that dont have winter. If everyone install roof top solar, then coal dependent energy can be reduce.
Did I hear correctly that Mazda were going to base their low-emission future on rotary engines? That is engines full of seals to wear out running on, essentially, 2-stroke mix, less inefficient combustion only when gaseous as opposed to liquid fuels are used and with awful torque curves? A friend of mine had an RX something or the other and it spent most of its life with him having the engine rebuilt. Hmm.
There will always be a need for on-demand power sources to bridge gaps in renewable power generation. For transportation though, the future of ICE is engines tuned for fixed-regime operation as auxiliary power generators for otherwise all-electric vehicles. As for how much of the total fleet will go electric, I think the ceiling will likely be much higher than 30%. We'll probably get to 60% for strictly BEVs once the batteries get smaller, cheaper, lighter with better fast-charging coverage along highways and easy access to L2 charging wherever people regularly park for hours at a time. It'll take 10-15 years to get there but we will.
i'm getting one your plugged PV systems, so i can still drive my ICE Subaru(s), because i love them. also, it's been mentioned before, that removing all of the (ICE) passenger vehicles(cars) from the road will make little to no difference to emissions.
The no brainer is hybrid, because a relatively constant speed internal combustion generator is easier to control for emissions. No problems when the pedal is mashed as the electric motors drive the wheels. And power is stored braking and going down hill.
Hi John, being a brit living in Scandinavia I have seen quite a lot of development of methanol plants that use the bio waste from forestry to produce fuel for vehicles. I don't have any data for their output etc. but would this be a better avenue to develop to reduce the use of oil until hydrogen fuel cells or hydrogen hybrids become established?
The argument for hydrocarbons is easy as there is no argument. As a fuel for combustion it wins hand down every time. Finding yourself in an argument of this type only reveals that you are conversing with a simple intellect.
The Japanese like the idea of hydrogen for transportation. The idea of carbon free hydrogen is through the use of large solar plants producing carbon neutral hydrogen for export. Ross Garnaut book Superpower suggests this idea.
Japanese government is pushing hydrogen big time, giving lots of money to companies like Toyota to R&D the idea. The main attraction is to become independent of foreign oil as well as chinese batteries (rare earth metals). They might end up being the only country in the world with plenty of hydrogen refueling stations for cars.
12th century cabon emissions were a lot more visible and piled up quickly. Could you imagine a modern-day highway traffic jam filled with horse and oxen drawn carriages plopping loads of carbon upon the roadways?
Liquid hydrocarbon fuels might be replaced by liquid ammonia produced by the Haber-Bosch process. Substantial replacement would require enormous quantities of energy that only nuclear power plants can supply. The scale would be great.
Roof top solar, made in china from coal fired power station. Yes I do have them. Over the past four years, China has significantly increased its construction of coal-fired power plants. In 2022 alone, China approved the construction of 106 gigawatts (GW) of new coal-fired capacity, equivalent to about two new power stations per week. This surge marks the highest annual capacity addition since 2015 (tippinsights). By 2023, China continued to lead the world in new coal power construction, starting projects totaling 70.2 GW, which is nearly 19 times more than the rest of the world's 3.7 GW. This ongoing expansion has contributed to China being responsible for 95% of the global new coal power construction in 2023 (Carbon Brief) (Global Energy Monitor). This trend underscores China's reliance on coal to stabilize its power grid and support economic growth, despite global efforts to reduce carbon emissions. Meanwhile USA flares hte venting of natural gas from American shale oil fields, particularly in states like Texas, is a significant issue. Flaring involves burning off excess natural gas that cannot be captured or transported, while venting releases methane directly into the atmosphere. This practice is both an economic waste and an environmental concern due to the potent greenhouse gases involved. In 2022, around 270 billion cubic feet of natural gas was flared in the United States, with Texas and North Dakota being the primary contributors (Energy Info EIA) (Grist). This amount of flaring results in substantial carbon dioxide emissions, contributing to climate change. Furthermore, due to incomplete combustion and unlit flares, methane emissions can be significantly higher than reported, exacerbating the environmental impact (Grist). Efforts are ongoing to reduce flaring through better regulation and technological advancements. However, the accuracy of reported data is often questioned due to discrepancies between permitted and actual flaring activities observed during flyovers and inspections (Grist) (World Oil). 6 emps later, dropped on Australian cities, and no solar energy, might have some wind, no cars left functioning. Will that happen may be not, lets ask Japan if a nuclear attack is possible, they might know.
Hydrogen (and or ammonia) are being looked at, but you are right, the cost of energy for producing H2 or NH3 at scale is prohibitive at the moment. The amount of solar and wind power to make them green is massive and impractical. If only we could go nuclear….
Yes, the “gold” hydrogen. These were discovered many years ago. Still unproven though with the first pilot plant starting production earlier this year. Not sure yet if it will scale like coal seam gas.
Our country is absolutely too stupid scared and are deceived about nuclear to ever do it The government is sleazy and won't admit what is needed and cost for solar, batteries and transmission lines power will keep going up and up
The big problem with existing hydrocarbon liquid fuel (ie fossil fuel) is that mostly, it is extracted from places far away, in places of questionable stability. Now we have bad actors lobbing things that go bang at supertankers. Things can get messy very quickly. We may be forced to make sythetic fuel in Australia because we can't source it from overseas.
Australia is surrounded by ocean, just go explore and prospect for oil. How do you think Norway got so rich? Their oil platforms are not on terra firma.
Germany was leading the way in developing synthetic fuels due to the allies dominance in all theatres towards the end of WWII, cant tell me that this technology was not picked up as part of operation paperclip and has not been developed in parralel for when oil supply becomes problematic. If you are interested look up Flether Proutys take on fossil fuels. Problematic is probably more geo political than supply based. If u think about it everything that is plastic is derived from oil. If its supply is limited we still are not invested in alternatives for manufacturing plastic derived products if it was reaching the end of its supply as u would expect the case to be.
@@AW-gj1mu I largely agree with you, the synthetic fuel production methods are derived directly from the German methodolgies from WW2. The plastics scene is actually quite exciting atm, biodegradeable plastics are at prototype stage, with significant progress being made. Additionally, non-plastic alternatives that look and feel like plastic have made huge gains with some products already comming to market. The problem is not going to be solved "tomorrow", but.....we are we are moving much faster than we thought possible. Scientists can solve most problems give them enough time and money.
There was legislation passed mid last century in the US called something like the Patent Control Act. The purpose was to restrict patented innovation that would have a devastating effect on existing industry eg fuel efficiency in a Ford V8.
These manufacturers know that the great majority of their future car buyers will not have convenient electrical power . And the guys with the "Technical" Toyota conversions will never be hooking up and IDing their locations to the US drone fleet..
It's not, unfortunately, it improves energy independence but actually produces more CO2 in the end as modern farming requires A LOT of CO2 (and nitrogen) to get any sort of an acceptable yield to make the fuel out of...
Are you friggin kidding? That's one of the least effective option, only viable through humongous government subsidies. Just look at the bio-fuel situation in Brazil.
I guess it could be feasible as a range extender fuel. You can drive on electricity for 99% while you rent a range extender for those really long journeys
@@noseboop4354 Are you sure? Have you looked at the 1010's, 20's and 30's? The Model A's and T's were dual fuel - fueled from fermented bad crops. then petroleum from the cities.
@@giovannip.1433 Any car like a Model T that only has 20 horsepower is going to look fuel efficient compared to today's car. Doesn't change the fact that the crops used to fuel it require a lot of fertilizer and other resources if you want to produce a meaningful amount.
Look, John, I am not philosophically opposed to technology. Give me a cigarette-sized packet of "Di-Lithium" crystals and I will happily fire up Enterprise and tour the galaxy at Warp Five. If you are moving, canned stuff is great. Even for food. Sure, I prefer the fresh stuff, but canned peaches and canned salmon is better than starving. When you are stationary, it is a whole new ball-game, as you so wisely pointed out in your ad for solar. And yes, money is a factor, which is why we suck oil out of the ground. And sure, solar panels, and geothermal, and nuclear, and tidal and all the rest of it, requires expensive infrastructure before we make a quid of it. here's the thing. Oil will effectively run out, and we use it for a shit more lot of things than just plonking it in an ICE engine to burn rubber on the way to Granny's Sunday roast. All sorts of pharmaceuticals, plastics, etc, etc. And ALL our energy comes from the sun, either by those photons bashing the shit out of those panels, or some phytoplankton or plant millions of years getting bombarded by those pesky little photons. And sure, you can get some energy from geothermal, which is basically radioactive decay and a bit of squishing due to gravity. And tidal energy comes from those big balls whizzing around the sky, now and then. So basically natural oil, coal, gas is not renewable, but solar, geothermal, etc is. Nuclear: "sort of', but it is basically a special kind of canned energy. So we have more renewable energy than we can ever use, the heat death of the universe notwithstanding. Given how moronic human beings are, I don't think that running out of power is a real concern. But we are going to run out of classes of power that are cheap and convenient now. And quickly. So electric trains are not a problem. Power rate tracks with renewables. If you use coal for those electrons, you are just deluding yourself. You may as well bring stream trains back. Cars? Nah. Hybrids make a bit more sense, depending on how you configure them, and where you get the electrons from. But you just can't stuff electrons into batteries to get good energy density. So ICE is here to stay. But where is the law that fuels cannot be synthetic? It is hardly carbon-neutral to make synthetic fuel using fossils fuels, and in fact, it is insane. So you go for one of those stationary thinga-me-bobs that don't need fossil fuels for energy. And yes, scaling is a problem. But once upon a time, to get the computing power of a modern wrist-watch you had fill a BIG room with clunky valves and things. Tons and tons of primitive electronics. And I get it. if it wasn't for fossil fuels we would sitting in a dim cave on our own excrement, chocking from the smoke of the fire, and dying from a piddly disease that an antibiotic would cure in a hot minute. But isn't it time to move on? Actually the problem would be less acute if we had started to wean ourselves off MASSIVE consumption of fossil fuels decades earlier. Less population back then for a start. Oz was what, 7 million in WW2? And we are not even populated compared to India or China with our 26 million and their billions. Eight billion "souls" all told. The longer we leave it, the worse it will get. Cities are unhealthy shit-holes already. And the 'burbs are taking away arable land. So is climate change. And fcuking fracking. Anyway, my 2 cents.
LESS WASTE is really the actual place to start. Do more with resources we already have. Be more efficient, organised and reliable. Making anything is an energy intensive process. Therefore ensure you make it well so it lasts. Allow people to fix their stuff too. Honour warranties. Provide spare parts. Certify repair technicians. Perfect your designs over the years rather than endlessly churn out new unfinished, flimsy money pits.
You can power diesel engines with rapeseed oil and other vegetable oils - those are carbon neutral, but the problem is You can't grow enough of rapeseed to cover the demand.
When I hear "carbon neutral" from someone, I ask then: "Dude, you realize, that we breath out carbon dioxide, no?" Like seriously, you have to be fucking braided to believe "carbon neutral" and yet, some believe, like they believe in Jesus, or that other guy with the bear and towel on his head (I forget his name).
So long as fossil fuels exist ICE will exist in future as generators for hybrid powertrains because electric motors are just so much better for reliability, durability and power delivery for consumer applications. A small highly efficient generator would perfectly bridge the gap between current ICE and pure electric cars like Tesla, again, ideal for most consumers.
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I think we have already reached Net Zero.....Intelligence.
Net Zero Intelligence is used by those green skinned people who paid so much money for an overinflated, overweight, overestimated, overpriced, overwhelmed shitbox that spontaneously combusts and therefore turns into an external combustion engine, which is far less controlled and far less efficient then an ICE vehicle!
They also are very difficult to turn off when in ECE mode
Go figure!
Agreed.
Toyota is doing what it has to do and saying what it has to say. But developing more efficient ICE engines seems to be a no-brainer, so what's not to like?
Mitsubishi and Honda are way ahead of those three in terms of fuel consumption at the current time. I have just spent two weeks around Thailand with a Thai built HR-V hybrid that gave better than 20km/l.
@@Swaggerlot No doubt, and I'm sure they'll be making much the same noises as Toyota to get by until it becomes obvious to even politicians that BEV's are not the only answer. I just don't understand JC's problem here - I wonder has he ever met any Japanese people? Usually very polite and non-confrontational, whilst working hard behind the scenes to solve the problem.
@@davidjb3671 I can think of many past friends that experienced Japanese 'hospitality' in SEA and would not concur with the 'polite and non-confrontational' idea of the Japanese or indeed any motivated big business person..
@@Swaggerlot Well, FWIW my father fought in Burma and my wife is Chinese, but it's difficult to believe anyone could be so crass as to bring up WWII in this context. Seems like you're just looking for a fight, but I'm not, so goodbye.
@@davidjb3671 Not at all, just highlighting the essential characteristics that will still be based in the culture.
To paraphrase Monty Python, apart from concrete, steel, transportation, advanced medical care, roads, supermarkets, plastics, all manufactured products, the internet, mass production of food, micro electronics and street lighting, what have hydrocarbons ever done for us?
@steveinoz8188 This planet has been through many climate changes, with several ice ages. To have more than one ice age, there must have been some warming between. I doubt previous ones have been due to us driving our cars. There is conflicting information about the causes of the change, and humans are contributing to, but not causing it. If we stopped using all hydrocarbons instantly, the planet would continue to warm. It is what it does. There's science that has shown global CO2 levels to follow temperature change, not precede it.
The biggest problem is population growth. If population was reduced by 30%, things would likely be more sustainable. Without the use of hydrocarbons, we'd be back in the stone age. Granite iphone anyone?
Efficiency alone will never satiate the lust for zero from the rabidly green. Has there ever been a post war period comparable to the insanity we’re currently experiencing?
Not period - just event - Jonestown, on CIA lands if you didn't know, even the source of a modern metaphor 'Drinking the Kool-Aid' which is a very apt metaphor for the green revolution...
NO
It's almost as if there is something major at stake and the longer people ignore it, the more drastic the changes will need to be in the future. Maybe you don't care about what the children will need to do in the future, but lots of people do care. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.
Exactly. Going for the perfect, forcing us all into battery electric vehicles will not work because a) battery electric vehicles are cr@p, b) no way can renewables provide the energy needed to power them, so they run on fossil fuel generated electricity anyway. The good would have been to improve the efficiency of combustion engines and develop lighter smaller cars. Which would have saved far more CO2 at an infinitesimal fraction of the cost.
Many need to watch Tony Heller and start evaluating the threat of CO2 instead of rubber-stamping a billionaires club's wet dream of population reduction and supply-side inflation...
I was driving a 6 litre Calais but have gone to an old 1.8 litre Corolla. Saving heaps. Wife's work car is a 1.25 litre Picanto. both good to drive. We have 40 solar panels, 2 sets of batteries and no bills. Thanks for the education over the years John.
My pleasure. Well done.
You only live once and LS V8s are a drug...
How much did you spend on 40 panels and 2 batteries ?
I hope you're doing the proper maintenance on those solar panels and batteries, otherwise you might face some very unpleasant bills prematurely.
@@chopperking007 And how long will the batteries last for , say, a microwave, a fridge , a few lights and an electric jug. You can get by on those for few days, but longer than that you are going to need the grid to come back to life - especially if you want some hot water for a shave and a shower (and for the pumps to fill the water tower in your suburb, each night.
Everything is consumable,since moving out of home and building a new home I have replaced every electrical appliance while the appliances from my childhood are still going.
Things were once made to be durable everything was better in the 1990’s
UK compliant bathroom pull cord switches are a case in point. Your Crabtree or MK switch of old would last around 40 years. Presently I must be on my 5th modern switch in 15 years.
My mother still uses her Philips Vacuum Cleaner, as a wedding present from 1985. I was born in 1986, that thing has lasted all throughout my life, +1 year 😂. Durability isn’t a thing these days, it definitely got left behind somewhere before, the mid 2000 maybe.
repairing the roof. Hundred year old iron is just fine, twenty year old iron is rusting through.
Built a bee house 6 years ago, everything is breaking showers / immersion/ controls / solar panels, arse fell out of the sink literally... 😮
Hi John . I agree with everything you said. I carry a lighter in my pocket. Every time someone starts to talk to me about zero emissions I pull my lighter out of my pocket and lite it and say look around you , nothing can be made without fire or some kind of heat.I'm a non smoker by the way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed , but even I understand physics.
You don't need fire to create heat. You can use wind, solar, hydro or nuclear to produce electricity that is then used to produce heat.
You sound like a mental case
@@Luka_3D Electricity (from any source) is the most expensive way to create heat in most parts of the world.
@@dzcav3 Depends on the time of day. Here in my country, steel production peaks with solar energy generation as they can get really cheap electricity to run ark furnaces on excess solar.
For heating homes however you can't beat a heatpump. Like, you could burn the fuel powering the powerplant in your home and you'd still get a lower increase in temperature than if you would have burned it in the powerplant and used the electricity to run the heatpump.
@@Luka_3D What percentage of the energy potential of the fuel burnt at the power plant do you think makes it to your house as electricity? There is some variation depending on where you live, and electricity companies have been studiously avoiding saying for a good while. The figure is somewhere in the mid to high 30 percent range. Hint, there is a reason electricity universally tends to cost three times as much as gas for the same amount of energy.
An air sourced heatpump might be advertised with a maximum heat output of 4 times the electricity burnt, but that multiplying factor takes a hit in the winter. You know when it's cold, and you tend to most want heat. Given gas boilers are at least 90% efficient, you better be getting a multiplication of heat averaging above 2.7 times to be as efficient. That is without allowing for system costs, servicing costs and heating system downtime (breakdowns and time to repair) A shop with lots of fridges and freezers where it is harvesting its own waste heat I can follow. For houses, I'm a bit suspicious.
They all say they want carbon neutrality through carbon credits, but none of them want transparency or any auditing.
There is a farm in the NT that has half the property being used to sell carbon credits to a CO2 emitting company. The other half of the farm is being used for beef production. So the company is carbon neutral but the farm isn’t.
Carbon credits,..... You mean just another fancy description of stealing our tax money to give to companies.
Love your honesty and knowledge of any of the subjects you talk about keep up the good work mate
John, your suggestion regarding the Polestar 4 battery being sensibly split into building approximately 100 sensible hybrid vehicles makes great sense. The current madness, building cars with batteries which weigh near 600kg and oversize monstrosities weighing near 4 tons is idiocy. The EV Hummer, the fucking Cybertruck and yes, the Kia EV9. Oh, and that stupidly huge BMW EV SUV.
17:52
I'm not that worried about Polestar, they'll be gone in a year, but the others have to release bigger and bigger monstrosities as we have here a good ol' rocket problem-batteries have very low energy density so you need a lot of them (in weight) to provide the range people want, but the weight reduces the range so you need to add even more batteries... And then you need to cover that in volume and structural integrity, so you need to build a tank around the battery... Which also adds a lot of weight, for which you need even more batteries...
“Toyota and their 2 testicles mazda and Subaru 😂😂😂”
Seemed appropriate.
Reflects their true worth
Yeeaahhh...vw sure has alot of testies, so Porsche is a testie? ...I'd like my 15 mins back from this video lol
Honestly I love this "bullshido" it's like, "we will continue doing ice cars so deal with it"
It will be very interesting to see if the ICE bans various large population governments are planning come to fruition anywhere. I can imagine extensions or exemptions are being negotiated heavily in the background.
i dont trust any EV. yes ice cars do explode but not as sporadic/spontaneous as EVs. slight crash or scratch under carriage they goes kaboom!
@@bcluett1697 honestly that looks like a dream for fools or rich people, I live in Spain and i don't see how they will be able to comply with the no combustion engines for 2030
@@AccessGranted46 i don't trust the companies that are emerging now as if they could change the world while they don't know how to build cars.
I trust more the first electric cars that were just electric and not "smart" (I mean cars like the leaf or toys like the twizy)
A Toyota or Mazda 1.0L engine, is far more Eco-friendly and sustainable than any BEV hauling around a massive battery pack.
even the 2.0 L engine does that
@@xerr0n But for the ones in virtue signalling, sound more appealing, flexing with a powerful BEV full of high tech features, than a compact, low tech, 1.0L car.
@@RogerM88
the way things are going it wont really be a low tech car either, would rather appreciate it though, we don't need a computer in everything.
the internet of trash is an obvious example of why that is.
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@@xerr0n As Auto Journalists, bickering about soft suspensions on cars, making Automakers stiffing them as lower profile tires, the new concept of luxury it's to have the most tech features as possible. Meanwhile there is still a demand for simpler low tech cars, a quick example is the sales hit, Dacia Sandero and the Spring EV.
Probably is, but awful to drive.
I think the positive piece out of this is the potential for an extended timeframe for these companies to attempt thermal efficiency improvements with their IC engines. The EU’s “we’re going to ban the sale of IC engines” thing is just stifling creativity and innovation in IC engine development.
Well they had 100 years to improve the efficiency and it peaked at 40%. 50% if you believe some chinese sources.
I don't think ice engines are going away. They make excellent small efficient range extenders and heaters.
I do however think that by 2030, the conventional gas car is going away since the benefits of a clutch and transmission drive system just aren't there anymore.
The greenies couldn’t muster an ounce of technical thought process between the lot of them
Agreed.
Shame you on bringing up the pesky technical thought process when the whole point of modern environmentalism is taking care of the fee-fees first, and if that means dreaming up 'solutions' so be it!
As Mr Lovelock says "the only way to save the earth is humanities morality".
The greens national party actually had a policy where they wanted to ban all semi trailers and replace them with " smaller more efficient trucks". Obviously they don't understand that a semi trailer is more efficient at moving the same amount of cargo, not to mention the wage of only one driver and paying one rego, toll etc reducing the overall price of goods. Literally zero common sense.
@steveinoz8188they have now slightly changed the wording, but policy 26 states 26. Phase out the use of sem0itrailers and B-doubles as the major form of freight transport and replace them with a combination of rail, maritime transport and non-articulated trucks running on renewable energy.
John, as long as we're planning the future around mythical energy, what's wrong with turning the mythical energy into fuel instead of charging mythical batteries? We also can't build batteries at the necessary scale.
One small thing:
Batteries aren’t mythical 😂
They exist
@@S3XY-00 so does the fuel, if we are being technical about it.
Batteries are becoming gigantic quickly. Now the dominant energy source in the California grid- which is the 5th biggest state grid on the planet. Getting big here too.
@@guringai I disagree with your assessment of "batteries becoming the dominant energy source". Batteries just _save_ energy then _pass_ _it_ on. Something else has to charge them. That has to be wind, solar, gas, nuclear or imports from other states. I'll give you a clue: it's not wind or solar !
@@guringai it's not possible that masteries batteries are "dominant" in any grid
Wake up babe! Johnny’s released a new video!!!
Who is 'Johnny'?
John Thomas@@AutoExpertJC
@@AutoExpertJC " Wake up babe, Heeerrre's Johnny" Wife slaps face
@@AutoExpertJC . Heeerrrreee'sss JOHNNY !
Johnny come home?
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Wonder if they’re the same Johnny?
I can understand small city cars with electric systems, but not these stupid oversized suv things they're concentrating on. And if we hit 30-40% ev fleet, then imagine all the extension cords draped across the pathways. Because a lot of people living in the inner city park on the street or underground carparks below apartments. Fun times ahead for pedestrians.
Because most murican drive 80mph highway 2-5 hours per day.
I am 46 this year, by the time I retire, I expect to see 10000km range and charging under 5mins.
I am 46 this year, by the time I retire, I expect to see 10000km range and charging under 5mins.
imagine all the coal that will be burnt to provide the electricity.
Love driving my "Nee-san" Cedric.
The Australian poofter's car 😃😃😃
Goodness, I just had a flashback to Romsey Quints just then.
@@sheerluckholmes5468 Romsey's annual Almanac in Wheels was a classic!
"Are you a poofter, Bruce?" -- Monty Python's Flying Circus skit line
@@markh.6687 😜😜😜
For now and to any foreseeable future, hybrid power plant is the way to go and that is Toyota’s masterpiece !!! 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️
i actually know some Muricans who would luv it if Mazda and others offer the North American market their 6 pot diesels!
As the past push towards Diesel engines, behind the EV push even though Greenwashing, it's the objective to lower Oil imports. Wouldn't be surprised if synthetic fuels are feasible at a large scale, Toyota is once again proven right.
Feasible yes. Google SAF
That's right. The EU pushed diesels in the 1990s/2000s to reduce co2 emissions. There were government incentives, cash for clunkers etc. How did that market intervention turn out
@@theairstig9164 The main issue with synthetic fuels progress, is the constant fear mongering about a switch of the Power Grid towards Nuclear Reactors.
@@rjbiker66 Beneath the current BEV push from the EU, it's objective to lower Oil imports. The same with China, with the bonus of their Automakers having market dominance. If an Ethanol or Ammonia derivative fuel was able to be produced at a large scale, don't be surprised, the West as China, quickly started to abandon their ICE bans.
Do a bit of research on how synthetic fuels are produced. The embodied energy in synthetic fuels is quite high. Then there's the use of fossil fuels in the production (and biomass),
and how many carbon capture machines are there to capture the CO2 from the air?
Climate change I maintain is a net benefit for earth, not a problem. Plant life is thriving due to increased co2 levels, and working in agriculture I can attest that crop yields are rising quickly due to higher CO2 levels. We should applaud higher co2, not view it as a problem.
After all when we burn a hydrocarbon, we are simply releasing the co2 from its current sequestered state back into the atmosphere where it came from, long ago.
Poor Australians. Bullshido Politicians flying private jets, people must buy sound castrated cars, taxes on taxes to 'protect' a non existing car industry & accumulating to ridiculous prices.
Compare with Dubai:
Happy 12 Cyl orchestral sounds in the air. Fuel for under 1/2 $ & love for cars.
E.V. =
Expensive
Vomiting
It's funny that you say Dubai is the internl combustion haven while the saudi government is investing the most capital into Lucid 🤣
Scams make the most money???@@Luka_3D
My God JC, you are right, great number of people do not have a clue. According to the comments herewith, not just Bowen.
"Oh, and the wine Reg. Don't forget the wine!"
John you are a breath of fresh air and you have great product knowledge. This might be the CLAYTONS DRINK, THE DRINK YOU HAVE WHEN YOUR NOT HAVING A DRINK. In other words it's the CARBON NEUTRAL FUEL YOU HAVE WHEN YOUR NOT HAVING A CARBON NEUTRAL FUEL. ⛽
FABULOUS POST John!
Hey John even in the 12th century they were emitting carbon by burning wood and coal. But they also chopped down trees for scaffolding to build castles.
Carbon-Neutral Fuel from your favourite 'Clean and Green' supplier - B.P. L. (Bullshito Petroleum Limited)
Almost all of us, at least in the so called developed world, could reduce our carbon emissions if we wanted to simply by thinking a little more about what we do and how we do it. If I’m going locally I’ll walk for example. If I’m going into a city centre I might take a bus or a train; that’s often easier, as you haven’t the hassle of trying to find somewhere to park. Many people are in and out, in and out with their cars. John has mentioned planning journeys, so one trip out to achieve maybe 5 goals in the day, rather than 5 separate journeys. There’s a lot of waste of energy. Planning and a bit of thought could go a long way to reducing environmental impact and actually save people money at the same time without a drastic change to their standard of living or quality of life.
Hybrid systems still have significant scope for improvement. That basically means smaller and better ICE engines combined with bigger batteries and inverters.
Bullshido ... well done sir.
John is a master of there linguistic arts, even in languages he does not speak.
I sure do enjoy your commentary sir!
As soon as I saw that announcement, I knew that there would be a John Cadogan video commenting on it. It did not disappoint. The three tailed dog...
BYD has a plugin hybrid with a 1,400 mile range.
I was running around in the 70's looking for a f**king red box with a phone in it that worked. Shame we won't be around in 50 years to see what makes cars move
I’ve had enough - I’m buying a horse
Ther'e not carbon neutral tho
What about the methane!
And even that horse will crap everywhere you go creating an environmental problem. Just downsize your car and if it's Japanese it will run for 20 years with basic maintenance.
Oh Thank you that somebody, other than me, get's it. Well said John. If there is one thing that everyone can take away from this video (and I've been saying this for years, the reason my wife wants to belt me over the head as she is tired of me saying it) it is this.... "EV are part of the solution, but NOT the solution".
Great video mate. I found your channel a few weeks ago and really enjoy the content.. 👏👏
John, I think your estimate of zero emission fuels also sinks H2 or NH3 as fuels. All will work, just only rich people will be able to pay for them.
Hydrogen and Amonia only make sense on big rigs like trucks or boats. One is really hard to store while the other is incredibly dangerous if it gets into contact with your skin. Why not just make range extended evs? Essentially plug in hybrids with larger batteries and smaller engines that run on ethanol?
I like the idea of retrofitting cars for LP gas. LP is extremely common in the US and tends to be relatively cheap, and also clean burning and very high octane. Unfortunately it's not as common in other places. For example, in a recent video, Wade of Dankpods talked on his car channel about getting his old ute Bruce back running using the old timey repair method of just letting it sit for two years, but being LP, it's near impossible to get gas for as despite producing LP, it's not available at a lot of gas stations in Australia like it is here in the US.
@@Luka_3D Ethanol sucks as a fuel and is barely useful as an octane booster. It's less power dense and thus less efficient, and it also loves to absorb water. Diesel is far better for big trucks and heavy duty pickups especially for long haul and heavy loads where you need high reliability and plenty of torque. Unfortunately modern diesels lack the reliability due to overbearing emissions regulations, and high displacement torque monster gas engines like GM's retired big block 8.1 Vortec, Dodge's (iirc also retired) 8L V10 Magnum, or Ford's boat anchor of a relatively small displacement 6.8 V10 tend to drink too much fuel compared to a more efficient pre-emissions diesel.
@@lsswappedcessna I think for semi trucks running long distance it would make more sense to go with hydrogen. The trucks themselves are I think the one sinsible vehicle to be powered by liquid hydrogen due to how they usually operate.
Hydrogen fuel cells also have no moving parts so I think they would be more reliable than todays diesels.
At the end of the day, it's just about extending the range of the truck beyond what a battery can provide while retaining the benefits of a bev like the regen braking that would save so much money in fuel and brakes.
@@Luka_3D H2, NH3 and bio-fuels all suffer the same problem. They have to be manufactured. Each step in manufacture requires both infrastructure and energy input. And each step there is energy lost. The fuel contains much less energy than required to manufacture it and only delivers at best 30% of the energy it contains. The consequence is that manufactured fuels cost about 10 times more energy than they deliver. Which makes them nonviable both energetically and economically. The serious issue is that fossil fuels are far more finite than most understand. Largely depleted before the end of this century and economically depleted within decades, when the cost of supply is more than the ability to pay.
Well done mate…got a good laugh out of that one.
The thing that raises humanity above all the other animals on the planet is that back in the depths of prehistory, one caveman rubbed two sticks together and created fire (and CO2).
I have 2 independent battery packs about 10kwh usable between them and a shot load of panels. With these short days I'm nearly 80% self consumption, not so much heading out to the grid.
These offset my driving a diesel i30 i believe.
this guy is a GENIUS!!!!! isnt he? ok i lied. and so did he.
I don't understand the editorial content of this video, is it not a good thing that some manufacturers still build ICE cars?? Who cares if they are joined at the hip, who cares how they will produce the next generation fuel? They have the right approach, I am getting the car I want and that's enough for me. John.... well, you need a break, I suggest you plan a nice trip to your favorite creek.
I'm starting with them.
Do we really think Toyota are going to get it wrong..
Hey John, any chance of getting a video on the new Toyota 48v hilux?
Also, anything new from Bluetti coming up that you’re aware of?
I wonder if the whole audience around the world watching this video have used more carbon collectivly than a full tank of diesel in a truck?
They are celebrating the secret development of an SEP field. ( Somebody Else's Problem, 3rd book, Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, hides the "Bistromatics" ship ( I think I misspelt that, it has been a while )).
Here's a towel, friend. Just ignore Marvin; he's rather depressed.
@@markh.6687 But Marvin is the one making the most sense in my life.
The 1st couple of decades were the worst, the 2nd couple of decades, they were the worst too.After that it went down hill.
@@alanhilder1883 Yes, indeed.
It's not just simply that ICE engines may have 70% of the market, affordability is the main issue. Even with a proposed larger percentage the cost of manufacturing a slightly smaller number of ICE vehicles will cost more and this cost will be passed onto the consumer. So when you are in the market for a new vehicle in the next few years and the cost of an EV is markedly less than the ICE version. I think the evolution to electrification will be swift and staggering to anybody who holds onto a future which includes ICE vehicles.
Long time no see. Welcome back.
@14:48 hydrocarbons are an absolute miracle.
Yes roof top solar is way to go.....esp in country that dont have winter. If everyone install roof top solar, then coal dependent energy can be reduce.
Did I hear correctly that Mazda were going to base their low-emission future on rotary engines? That is engines full of seals to wear out running on, essentially, 2-stroke mix, less inefficient combustion only when gaseous as opposed to liquid fuels are used and with awful torque curves? A friend of mine had an RX something or the other and it spent most of its life with him having the engine rebuilt. Hmm.
John, have a look at gold hydrogen drilling on the York peninsula. Is this BS or could it have possibilities…?
Never stop showing off your excellence at calling it the bullshit no matter which side it's coming from!
Facts will win ultimately.
There will always be a need for on-demand power sources to bridge gaps in renewable power generation. For transportation though, the future of ICE is engines tuned for fixed-regime operation as auxiliary power generators for otherwise all-electric vehicles.
As for how much of the total fleet will go electric, I think the ceiling will likely be much higher than 30%. We'll probably get to 60% for strictly BEVs once the batteries get smaller, cheaper, lighter with better fast-charging coverage along highways and easy access to L2 charging wherever people regularly park for hours at a time. It'll take 10-15 years to get there but we will.
Subi's new series engine is shite due to replacing metal with plastic in the cooling system.
A good engine buggered by bean counters.
Peace.
Room for third party parts makers with access to 3D printing in metal
@@theairstig9164 Go the little guy!
Mr Subaru did a piece recently.
@@MicMc539love Mr sub will have to check it out
I really don't know what to replace my 2011 rexxy when it gives up. admittedly the 1997 rex I had before was better.
Would love to see their carbon-neutral plastic, tho...
The bullshido bingo is strong with this press release.
Since when do motoring journos do anything other than regurgitate press releases?
Never. Kinda my point.
So how do we run industry and commercial on solar batteries?
i'm getting one your plugged PV systems, so i can still drive my ICE Subaru(s), because i love them.
also, it's been mentioned before, that removing all of the (ICE) passenger vehicles(cars) from the road will make little to no difference to emissions.
Bullshedu par excellence!
The no brainer is hybrid, because a relatively constant speed internal combustion generator is easier to control for emissions. No problems when the pedal is mashed as the electric motors drive the wheels. And power is stored braking and going down hill.
Brilliant, thanks John.
Hey John - what about alternative internal combustion fuels made from nuclear? could they be carbon neutral?does that work?
Solar panels aren't insulated against hail storms and if you have to fix roof leaks or replacement the panels have to be removed and reinstalled. 😂
If this were a Hollywood production, it would be:
_The last Petrol Head_
- _featuring Tom Cruise_
And it would have the same predictable ending.
If I made the BZ4X/Soltera I'd also be inclined to stick to ICE going forward.
Oh What A Feeling! ✊
If I put the electric motor from my old HO model train from my childhood under the bonnet of my Y62 does that make it a hybrid?
Hi John, being a brit living in Scandinavia I have seen quite a lot of development of methanol plants that use the bio waste from forestry to produce fuel for vehicles. I don't have any data for their output etc. but would this be a better avenue to develop to reduce the use of oil until hydrogen fuel cells or hydrogen hybrids become established?
This channel has ran out off steam
The argument for hydrocarbons is easy as there is no argument. As a fuel for combustion it wins hand down every time. Finding yourself in an argument of this type only reveals that you are conversing with a simple intellect.
Don't forget , You are the carbon they want to eliminate .
The Japanese like the idea of hydrogen for transportation. The idea of carbon free hydrogen is through the use of large solar plants producing carbon neutral hydrogen for export. Ross Garnaut book Superpower suggests this idea.
Japanese government is pushing hydrogen big time, giving lots of money to companies like Toyota to R&D the idea. The main attraction is to become independent of foreign oil as well as chinese batteries (rare earth metals).
They might end up being the only country in the world with plenty of hydrogen refueling stations for cars.
12th century cabon emissions were a lot more visible and piled up quickly. Could you imagine a modern-day highway traffic jam filled with horse and oxen drawn carriages plopping loads of carbon upon the roadways?
Always informative and funny 🤣🤣🤣🫡
Stark Industries use the Arc reactor to power the new world car of the future.
Liquid hydrocarbon fuels might be replaced by liquid ammonia produced by the Haber-Bosch process. Substantial replacement would require enormous quantities of energy that only nuclear power plants can supply. The scale would be great.
The problem with amonia is that it's incredibly toxic.
Roof top solar, made in china from coal fired power station.
Yes I do have them.
Over the past four years, China has significantly increased its construction of coal-fired power plants. In 2022 alone, China approved the construction of 106 gigawatts (GW) of new coal-fired capacity, equivalent to about two new power stations per week. This surge marks the highest annual capacity addition since 2015 (tippinsights).
By 2023, China continued to lead the world in new coal power construction, starting projects totaling 70.2 GW, which is nearly 19 times more than the rest of the world's 3.7 GW. This ongoing expansion has contributed to China being responsible for 95% of the global new coal power construction in 2023 (Carbon Brief) (Global Energy Monitor).
This trend underscores China's reliance on coal to stabilize its power grid and support economic growth, despite global efforts to reduce carbon emissions.
Meanwhile USA flares hte venting of natural gas from American shale oil fields, particularly in states like Texas, is a significant issue. Flaring involves burning off excess natural gas that cannot be captured or transported, while venting releases methane directly into the atmosphere. This practice is both an economic waste and an environmental concern due to the potent greenhouse gases involved.
In 2022, around 270 billion cubic feet of natural gas was flared in the United States, with Texas and North Dakota being the primary contributors (Energy Info EIA) (Grist). This amount of flaring results in substantial carbon dioxide emissions, contributing to climate change. Furthermore, due to incomplete combustion and unlit flares, methane emissions can be significantly higher than reported, exacerbating the environmental impact (Grist).
Efforts are ongoing to reduce flaring through better regulation and technological advancements. However, the accuracy of reported data is often questioned due to discrepancies between permitted and actual flaring activities observed during flyovers and inspections (Grist) (World Oil).
6 emps later, dropped on Australian cities, and no solar energy, might have some wind, no cars left functioning. Will that happen may be not, lets ask Japan if a nuclear attack is possible, they might know.
I am not an expert in very many things, but I once was an arborist: I can tell you for a fact that manufacturing plants don't grow on trees.
Hydrogen (and or ammonia) are being looked at, but you are right, the cost of energy for producing H2 or NH3 at scale is prohibitive at the moment. The amount of solar and wind power to make them green is massive and impractical. If only we could go nuclear….
Yes, the “gold” hydrogen. These were discovered many years ago. Still unproven though with the first pilot plant starting production earlier this year. Not sure yet if it will scale like coal seam gas.
Our country is absolutely too stupid scared and are deceived about nuclear to ever do it
The government is sleazy and won't admit what is needed and cost for solar, batteries and transmission lines power will keep going up and up
The big problem with existing hydrocarbon liquid fuel (ie fossil fuel) is that mostly, it is extracted from places far away, in places of questionable stability. Now we have bad actors lobbing things that go bang at supertankers. Things can get messy very quickly. We may be forced to make sythetic fuel in Australia because we can't source it from overseas.
Australia is surrounded by ocean, just go explore and prospect for oil. How do you think Norway got so rich? Their oil platforms are not on terra firma.
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Germany was leading the way in developing synthetic fuels due to the allies dominance in all theatres towards the end of WWII, cant tell me that this technology was not picked up as part of operation paperclip and has not been developed in parralel for when oil supply becomes problematic. If you are interested look up Flether Proutys take on fossil fuels. Problematic is probably more geo political than supply based. If u think about it everything that is plastic is derived from oil. If its supply is limited we still are not invested in alternatives for manufacturing plastic derived products if it was reaching the end of its supply as u would expect the case to be.
@@AW-gj1mu I largely agree with you, the synthetic fuel production methods are derived directly from the German methodolgies from WW2. The plastics scene is actually quite exciting atm, biodegradeable plastics are at prototype stage, with significant progress being made. Additionally, non-plastic alternatives that look and feel like plastic have made huge gains with some products already comming to market. The problem is not going to be solved "tomorrow", but.....we are we are moving much faster than we thought possible. Scientists can solve most problems give them enough time and money.
@@noseboop4354Why do you imagine that hasn't been done? We have gas offshore in the Northwest and some oil in Bass Strait, but not enough.
There was legislation passed mid last century in the US called something like the Patent Control Act. The purpose was to restrict patented innovation that would have a devastating effect on existing industry eg fuel efficiency in a Ford V8.
This is the bullshido that I'll sign up to pay for.
These manufacturers know that the great majority of their future car buyers will not have convenient electrical power . And the guys with the "Technical" Toyota conversions will never be hooking up and IDing their locations to the US drone fleet..
Alcohol fuel through fermentation of vegetable matter can be a cost effective option...
It's not, unfortunately, it improves energy independence but actually produces more CO2 in the end as modern farming requires A LOT of CO2 (and nitrogen) to get any sort of an acceptable yield to make the fuel out of...
Are you friggin kidding? That's one of the least effective option, only viable through humongous government subsidies. Just look at the bio-fuel situation in Brazil.
I guess it could be feasible as a range extender fuel. You can drive on electricity for 99% while you rent a range extender for those really long journeys
@@noseboop4354 Are you sure? Have you looked at the 1010's, 20's and 30's? The Model A's and T's were dual fuel - fueled from fermented bad crops. then petroleum from the cities.
@@giovannip.1433 Any car like a Model T that only has 20 horsepower is going to look fuel efficient compared to today's car. Doesn't change the fact that the crops used to fuel it require a lot of fertilizer and other resources if you want to produce a meaningful amount.
Just install roof solar panels and when the first hail storm hits, you'll install some new ones.
Look, John, I am not philosophically opposed to technology. Give me a cigarette-sized packet of "Di-Lithium" crystals and I will happily fire up Enterprise and tour the galaxy at Warp Five.
If you are moving, canned stuff is great. Even for food. Sure, I prefer the fresh stuff, but canned peaches and canned salmon is better than starving.
When you are stationary, it is a whole new ball-game, as you so wisely pointed out in your ad for solar.
And yes, money is a factor, which is why we suck oil out of the ground. And sure, solar panels, and geothermal, and nuclear, and tidal and all the rest of it, requires expensive infrastructure before we make a quid of it.
here's the thing. Oil will effectively run out, and we use it for a shit more lot of things than just plonking it in an ICE engine to burn rubber on the way to Granny's Sunday roast. All sorts of pharmaceuticals, plastics, etc, etc.
And ALL our energy comes from the sun, either by those photons bashing the shit out of those panels, or some phytoplankton or plant millions of years getting bombarded by those pesky little photons.
And sure, you can get some energy from geothermal, which is basically radioactive decay and a bit of squishing due to gravity. And tidal energy comes from those big balls whizzing around the sky, now and then.
So basically natural oil, coal, gas is not renewable, but solar, geothermal, etc is. Nuclear: "sort of', but it is basically a special kind of canned energy.
So we have more renewable energy than we can ever use, the heat death of the universe notwithstanding. Given how moronic human beings are, I don't think that running out of power is a real concern.
But we are going to run out of classes of power that are cheap and convenient now. And quickly.
So electric trains are not a problem. Power rate tracks with renewables. If you use coal for those electrons, you are just deluding yourself. You may as well bring stream trains back.
Cars? Nah. Hybrids make a bit more sense, depending on how you configure them, and where you get the electrons from. But you just can't stuff electrons into batteries to get good energy density. So ICE is here to stay. But where is the law that fuels cannot be synthetic? It is hardly carbon-neutral to make synthetic fuel using fossils fuels, and in fact, it is insane. So you go for one of those stationary thinga-me-bobs that don't need fossil fuels for energy.
And yes, scaling is a problem. But once upon a time, to get the computing power of a modern wrist-watch you had fill a BIG room with clunky valves and things. Tons and tons of primitive electronics.
And I get it. if it wasn't for fossil fuels we would sitting in a dim cave on our own excrement, chocking from the smoke of the fire, and dying from a piddly disease that an antibiotic would cure in a hot minute.
But isn't it time to move on? Actually the problem would be less acute if we had started to wean ourselves off MASSIVE consumption of fossil fuels decades earlier. Less population back then for a start. Oz was what, 7 million in WW2? And we are not even populated compared to India or China with our 26 million and their billions. Eight billion "souls" all told. The longer we leave it, the worse it will get.
Cities are unhealthy shit-holes already. And the 'burbs are taking away arable land. So is climate change. And fcuking fracking.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
Good on them..... I hope they can succeed.
LESS WASTE is really the actual place to start. Do more with resources we already have. Be more efficient, organised and reliable. Making anything is an energy intensive process. Therefore ensure you make it well so it lasts. Allow people to fix their stuff too. Honour warranties. Provide spare parts. Certify repair technicians. Perfect your designs over the years rather than endlessly churn out new unfinished, flimsy money pits.
You can power diesel engines with rapeseed oil and other vegetable oils - those are carbon neutral, but the problem is You can't grow enough of rapeseed to cover the demand.
Well said John.
When I hear "carbon neutral" from someone, I ask then: "Dude, you realize, that we breath out carbon dioxide, no?" Like seriously, you have to be fucking braided to believe "carbon neutral" and yet, some believe, like they believe in Jesus, or that other guy with the bear and towel on his head (I forget his name).
lol that picture looks like a poster for a Wes Anderson film.
So long as fossil fuels exist ICE will exist in future as generators for hybrid powertrains because electric motors are just so much better for reliability, durability and power delivery for consumer applications. A small highly efficient generator would perfectly bridge the gap between current ICE and pure electric cars like Tesla, again, ideal for most consumers.
3:23 "It slashes your electricity bill."
Because it enables theft of power-service.
Well if this this, Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi are working together on some projects