Don't Let This $2 O-Ring Wreck Your Subaru's Cooling System! Fix That Coolant Leak Yourself, Cheap!
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Completed this repair yesterday. Not that difficult if you follow along with the video and have a few maintenance bones in your body. While I was at it, i replaced the thermostat, upper and lower radiator hoses, exhaust manifold gaskets, PCV valve, throttle body gasket, coolant, and plenum gaskets.
2013 Crosstrek (184,500)
Great, comprehensive video. None of that "and then a miracle happens" nonsense. I wish I could have really seen where those o-rings sit, but I'm sure it would be clear if I tackled this repair myself. Thanks for the excellent step-by-step.
I agree. Video is great and I am grateful., but some exact will lit zoomed stills photos of where and how o-rings sit could be done with a camera and or mirror and would be helpful . Also any info on which models do and do not require removal of wiring harness, would be helpful, as that is something you do not want to find out halfway when budgeting your time
In the course of 6 months last year, I've replaced 16 Subaru with those water port O rings. Some are a pain to do where you have to remove the intake manifold complete off, and some I was cable to get snap on long 90 degree angle pick and get it out. Slide new O rings in and install everything back with new intake manifold gasket. They're not bad to do once you do a few. Easy money.
Thanks so much for the video, I believe this was the condition, that forced the previous owner of our 2016 Crosstrek to trade it in for a new Subaru. Per the Subaru dealership service history, in Bryan TX, the previous owner had just spent about 1,800.00, months before she traded in vehicle, for an A/C compressor. So I think, these O-rings were the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. Subaru Dealership in Houston TX, quoted me ball park 1,500.00 for replacement of the crossover pipe O-rings. I did the job per your video, in about 3.5 hours. Yes, I checked the PCV valve during the job! Awesome video!!!
My impreza 16 is leaking too will do it with radiator and thermostats
Did you have oil in the coolant reservoir?
What if the the head carb flaps I'll call them are caked in contaminants like I can take my nail and scrap it off
@@matthewjohancen757,yes I did 2015 xv crosstrek
This problem was in the EJ series as well. Anytime customers said they smelt coolant id look for the rear crossover pipe and sure enough it there would a pool on top. Cheap o-ring but expensive for labour.
That's exactly what is happening to my 2009 outback right now. I Thought the coolant level was dropping due to blown head gaskets. Then I saw a puddle of coolant on the top of the engine at the rear crossover pipe seal.
The little soo-bar-oooo. WOW
I feel ya on the jacking it up to not break your back. I'm 6'5", so any chance I get to save my back I take it as well.
6’4 here. Nearly always lifted cars on the lift to save my back when I was in a shop. Definitely miss a lift. Problem was they never lifted cars high enough when working underneath. I usually had to take a wide leg stance to have comfortable head room. Lol
@@MrSubaru1387 I feel you there! I was lucky when living back home. My dad owned his own coal trucking company from 77 to 92 before he sold it and retired early. With that came the old garage, tons of 70's & 80's tools, and best part the deep pit with a lift.
I don't get back much to use it since I've moved, but any chance I get I take it. He's 79, and still going strong with truck repairs for local individuals or renting it out to people either one.
Hard to install a lift on dirt and gravel outside.
@@MrSubaru1387pour a cement pad baby!
I usually just remove alternator out of the way and few connectors in the way and use a pry bar to lift cross over pipe and pic to remove o-rings from front and back side without needing to do all this
I was wondering what symptoms customer experience to bring in for service? Venturi pump is such a nice specailty tool to have with these Subaru. I imagine it pays for itself in the time it saves doing this as a profession. Again, you make it always look a bit smoother than real life. Good confidence builder for us first timers
Solid work as always. Gonna help me keep my 2013 Impreza on the road for years to come. Thanks!
Damn !!! My back is hurting watching this !! Great video 👍
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I had a catastrophic engine failure caused by a $2 o-ring. 😔 Had one of the o-rings behind the oil pump fail. Thought I had caught it soon enough, but a few months post repair, I started to hear faint rod knock on my way to work. On the commute home, the bearing spun. Love the FA20, but I am not a fan of the oil pump/timing cover design. These things happen. We pick up a wrech and move forward.
I didn't realize until after I ordered that fuel line tool that I did not need it for my 2016 impreza But other than that thanks for the video it is very helpful
The real scary coolant o-rings are the ones in the upper oil pan on the FB and FA engines. Looks just like a blown head gasket when they go. And, of course, the only way to get to them in to pull the engine since the lower bell housing studs are attached to the upper oil pan...
Would love to see a video on how to replace these Orings!
@@boykenothey are out there. Youre gonna need to be able to pull the motor.
Ekkk this is probably what just happened to mine yesterday 😢😅
Does this failure allow oil Into the coolant or vise versa?
Just did this job on my Outback last week. Wish I'd have thought to jack up the front so my back didn't hurt the day after!
Yep....you have convinced me that I will not be attempting this. Not only have I never gone this far into an engine but I do not have most of the amazing tools and diagnostic equipment nor the experience of how to use them. I would probably have a bucketful of left over parts. Good mechanics are worth their weight in gold and weekend warriors like myself who feel like a God to do a simple brake job need to just pay the pro. Find an honest and competent mechanic and pay the money. They are MORE THAN worth it....even if it seems like a lot.
If you're doing this on your personal vehicle and not a customers, you need to disconnect more of those connectors, lift that pipe a bit higher, wedge something under it to hold it up to gain more access to the pipe sealing surfaces and clean them thoroughly with a brass wire brush. Otherwise, you'll do the job again in two years.
Entertaining and educational...gives me perspective when I pay someone else to repair my OB! Since moving to the coast 14 years ago I've noticed rubber bands deteriorate to a dried crumbly mess within days. I have to keep them in a ziplock bag to keep them pliable.
great video. I think old EJ20/EJ25 series motors are easier, as the engine wiring harness is attached to the plenum. new tools look great!
I wish I was smart enough to use that fancy coolant vacuum system!
My daughter's 2011 Forester she just bought was losing coolant/overheating and had a lot of fluid on top of the engine after replacing the upper/lower radiator hoses and flushing/filling the cooling system. Replacing the ECT sensor (it's bad), but I think I'm gonna go ahead and do this too...hopefully this is where the coolant is coming from.
I had to do this exact same job earlier this year on my 2011 Outback 2.5i Premium at 150k miles.
Perfect time to replace the PCV valve as well, plenty of room. Don’t forget new PCV hose.
Damn this is a lot of work! glad my dealership replaced it under my gold extended warranty… I though I was a chump buying it but I guess it all worked out
I just watched this last week and was out today to check the oil level and just so happened to see my crossover pipe leaking. Looks like I'll be doing this on mine soon.
Great video! I had just noticed some old coolant around those orings in my 11 outback with 135kms. Cant wait to use this knowledge
Nice video! Looks like I could do this myself. Our 2015 Forester has lived its entire life in Phoenix so I can only imagine what those o-rings might be like.
Thanks for the video Robert great job. Take care of yourself.👍❤️❤️ it.
did it easily myself. Thanks!
My FRS suffered the same... $80 bucks later is ice cold again
Thank you Mr. Subaru, I have the "puddle" in the same location in my 09 and 15 Outback's....... Will have to wait till Spring though......I'll start with my 09 since it seems easier.
Get a bottle of Subaru coolant conditioner. It will buy you some time. Part #SOA635071. Keep in mind it needs to be added to the radiator not the overflow reservoir, so you need something to remove a bit of coolant if it's not low from the leak. Shake vigorously before adding to the radiator. Drive immediately after adding to circulate and warm the coolant.
You have just saved my bacon.... I've been holding off on this because I haven't found a proper video . I'm assuming it's similar to the 2010 2.5l? thank you so very much from the bottom of my heart.
It is, much easier on the old EJ253 you have.
Fantastic expertise on your part.
at least he damn fuel rail "protectors" aren't like the damn EJ's. I have seen SO many Subarus that have a dealer service history with those damn fuel rail cover/protectors chucked in the trash. My personal car (Both EJ-Turbos) no covers/protectors. great video as always
Excellent job and such a great video .Thank you sir .
I have some new parts that were not used for my outback. I will send them to you if you want them no charge. POwer stop pads, Bosch o2 sensor, some suspension bushings. A few other things. The car no longer exists.
Mr.Subaru, do you have a recommended service interval chart for new Subarus? I'm almost ready to take delivery of the 23 Subaru Crosstrek Premium in the 6MT we ordered. Hoping to keep it running to 300,000 with little issues. I've been watching your videos and see that sometimes Subaru doesn't do their best at giving buyers a good service interval chart. Do you have any places I could look to find a
"vetted" service interval chart with possible added touch points? Thank you!
Nicely done! Those old O-rings were quite crunchy!
Just had mine replaced at the dealership, I could smell the antifreeze, thought it might be the heater core. Looked on u tube and sure enough one of the o rings was blown out. I had the extended warranty,but this wasn’t covered.
This is why everyone I know (including me) prefer older subarus, my ej201 was a breeze to change the o rings! P.s mrsubaru my PCV valve recently failed while on the motorway, got her home misfiring an changed it now it's fine apart from it seems to have blown the seals around the spark plug tubes so they're now covered in oil, I'm assuming the PCV was the cause? I serviced it a week before the pcv failure and there wasnt a spot of oil there.
Nice work, as always!
It is very strange that the rubber rings are so dry, as if they were overheated.
We had -27 deg.C for last two days and -23 for today. Mine FB20 SJ '14 is okay, cold start sounds weird, but thanks God it have started. Сold weather showed that it's time to check the hood latch - the spring weakened in the cold.
Workhorse VW Tiguan ('14, 1.4 TSI 4Motion MT) became leaking with coolant from turbine hose while cold.
By the way, dads old ('94) Toyota with 4A-FE (gasoline 1.6l I4) have started as new.
It happens with age. It's why I hate O rings in places that get hot. My 1992 Camaro has an oil control O ring on the distributor. It's the reason every third generation camaro leaks a little bit every night. The O ring lasts maybe 2 or 3 months.
Great video as always 👍🏼
Hello, I have a 2017 subaru forester 2.5i and I have oil in my radiator. NO coolant in my motor so that is good. How can I fix this ?
Oh wow, looks like I’ll just go to the mechanic for this lmaooo
You sound like the guy off motor trend week 👨🏻🔧🤷🏻♂️
Personally, I fail to see any realistic reason to replace the fuel rail "protector" covers once removed. Protect from what? Air?
I think thats the leak on my 2005 2.5 l Outback. Thanks!
The Subaru PCV is the same one Toyota has on it's 3.5 v6 2GRFE..... spring might be different not sure yet.
hello mr subaru1387
I watch your videos frequently and they help me a lot. My problem is that
I have an xv2017 fb20 engine my problem is that oil is passing into the coolant and I don't know which o-ring I should replace since in your video the ones you replace are due to a coolant leak I would appreciate your help since I am new to this
I don't know if this PCV Hose Connector has to do with the problem
greetings
Let me know when you find the solution, I’m having the same problem
I'm currently diagnosing a 2014 Forester Premium overheat issue. Lots of folks say it's probably head gaskets. I was able to top off coolant and drive it when needed. Now it's pouring out coolant to the ground and no longer can be driven. Any Ideas on what is happening?
This video is very detailed and I know I can trust your advice. Thanks for any response, DZ
There's something missing here Mr Subaru. ...2 more cly.....😂
Not sure this is DIY consumer, need some skill for sure. Especially for Oring placement. I'm surprised they failed. If they were Viton material or did Subaru use only cheaper rubber ones?
If I attempt this myself, would it be a good time to try to clean some carbon from the intake manifold runners or from inside the EGR valve or tube while I have everything apart? Anything else worth knocking out while I'm in there? I like the PCV reminder in this video.
I would have considered a "Red" colored same size o-ring good for higher temps.
It's usually a good idea to replace parts with the same type that are called for. You're asking for problems otherwise
@@alexandersupertramp7353 Because manufacturers don't engineer things to only last a certain amount of time due to materials used under certain conditions. Otherwise it wouldn't be an o-ring at all.
@@transtubular Thanks Capt Obvious! Unfortunately, your comment had nothing to do with mine 😂😂😂
Dayumn! You took half the engine bay apart!
I removed the upper plenum. Hardly half the engine bay…
What parts do you recommend replacing when replacing the cross-over o-rings? PCV, PCV Hose, Plenum Gaskets, Throttle Body - anything else?
I just had a mechanic looked at my Subaru 2014 he told me that is the problem with my car but he said that they have to remove the whole engine to replace those o rings 😮.
Excellent video 👍 👍
Mr. Subaru I like all your videos, you've been a great help to me with my Subaru ,I have a 2012 impressive premium 2.0 ,.. I bought new rims, aftermarket rims and my question is can I use pressure sensors from my original rims or do I have to replace them.?? Thank you in advance
So I don't actually know enough about cars to be sure of this statement, but it sure does seem like Subarus have a lot of leak problems. Is this due to the design of the engine itself, or do they just use bad gaskets/seals? Do they have more connection points than other cars? Is the pressure greater? Or are they just using the bare minimum material as far as durability goes? And this isn't just an observation. I'm on my third Subaru (I don't know why I love them so much) and they have all had leaks in one place or another. Was never a problem with my Toyotas and Hondas that I owned. Thanks for any responses.
Would be good to know age and miles of vehicle to provide an overview of when replacement of these is likely to be needed
Putting a motor in mine
definitely replacing these
I’ve been replacing o rings and vacuum lines with newer lines on my Impreza because there almost ten years old and there very cheap to buy.
I just had an overheat issue I hope I didn’t ruin the motor
One question: can the gasket for the EGR pipe be reused or should I get a new one.
Thanks for showing us the process Mr. Subaru!
Hey, @ 3:10, did you know, when using an electric 90 degree socket driver, you can manually break free a bolt that won't spin under electrical power? 🤪🤪🤪
Hi from dubai. Great information videos. What was the part you changed the orings.
Great video!!!
Hmmm good to know this.
My 2002 Forster S will one day be needing this eventually and even though this is a new car and different engine here mine won't be too terribly different of a job.
However I'm wondering if the older EJ 2.5L doesn't have these O rings on there.
Why don't they make those gaskets out of silicone so they would last longer?
Question here. With all the trade ins (specifically wrk model) 2020 2021 with low miles 3k-14k would it be smarter to avoid them because of the drive it like you stole it people with no regard to a break in period? This is strictly a reliability question. i haven't because of the insane prices alone.
@mrsubaru1387 would you know what material the OEM o-ring made of? would a O-ring made of viton, assuming one is available, be better for longevity? Thanks!
Thanks!
Welcome!
Excelente video. Muchas gracias
What are the o-ring part numbers again. I’m going to attempt this fix
And thanks for the video
Disconnect negative on battery I'm guessing?
Now I'm concerned. I have a 2023 Crosstrek, and I can't do all that mechanical work for O'Ring replacement, OUCH!
You shouldn’t have to worry for a while. My 2013 Crosstrek (184,000) just came up with this issue.
You have a decade or so! Lol
@@MrSubaru1387 thank you sir
While the car is a 2013, do you think the cross-over passage "o-rings" drying out is due to time, mileage or something else as the prime degrader(?)? Being new to Subaru, will this be a "normal" replacement item in new to plan for with my 2020 WRX? Thank you for considering this and another informative video. v/r
"...item in new to..." should have been "..item I need to plan..."
The only thing that happened to me in cold weather -25f was the power steering froze up and was blowing out the fluid on the reservoir.
My problem is my wife's 2012 forester has oil in the coolant reservoir not milky actual oil droplets. No over heating and when I replaced the plugs they were dry . Any ideas?
What's your technique for cleaning the mating surface? 15:04
Thanks for the excellent video. I have a 2017 Outback 2.5 Cvt -- Does this car have an upper thermostat for the transmission warmer feature? Thanks for any help.
Nice job & HNY!
Happy New Year!
Great video as always! Is there a similar o ring on the ej253 and do you have a video on that job? Thanks!
Yes. The EJ engines have a coolant crossover pipe and two o-rings as well. Just much easier to replace on them.
Fantastic thanks. Can you recommend a good entry level scan tool that’s good for Subaru? 2010 Legacy owner here looking to do this exact job.
I have been thinking about buying my first Subaru, so I have been watching all these videos. They are terrific. You do a great job explaining what you are doing and why you are doing it. I do have a question about current Subaru models if you would mind commenting.
Do you see anything inherently wrong with the current Outback Wilderness model? Are the engine and transmission considered "good" and reliable? I have not seen any Wilderness models on your videos, but most are probably still under warranty. I live just north of Charlotte and there have been very few Outback Wilderness models to look at over the past 2+ years. I haven't even been able to test drive one yet. Thanks again for the videos.
He generally talks old Subaru's. The Outback is a highly rated car however
I think you'd be silly to buy a Subaru anything. Japanese JUNK!
Any idea in how much it costs to fix so i can get a general estimate? Dont wana get ripped off if possible
Shocking no corrosion or rustted off bolt heads. Gfs 2014 has a lot of bolt heads that look like an onions from salt spray.
How did you know the o rings had failed ?? My 01 WRX is smoking from underneath somewhere , just wandered if this could be the issue .
I just bought an 07 Subaru Forester xs with 322,000 miles on it. commenting here because idk if you react to comments on old videos. Are there any sneaky things that I should check that could start to show at this kind of mileage? I'm doing all of the obvious. engine mounts, replacing all fluids, and filters, and checking for drivetrain issues such as u joint, and suspension/steering issues like ball joints. Is there anything sneaky that I'm missing which I should also check?
Mr Subaru can you a video on replacing the fuel Filter on newer Subarus 2013 to now please?
I have. They’re in the tank. Not really something that needs servicing anymore.
This is a question that I need answered correctly. I just purchased a brand new 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited on 1/20/2023. Is there an engine break in period before I can go on the expressways or tollways in Illinois? Thank you very much.
No wonder so many tech's are quitting. This is another example of why you don't want Little Johnny at the dealership to touch your car.
This is also another good example ( as All of your video's are ) of why in the eyes of just about any dealership *You Will Never Be a Good Service Tech For Them.* You will Never make enough money to satisfy them. *Wear This Like A Badge Of Honor". They charge $150/hr. for full book hrs but demand the tech slam the job out in half time or less.
You are too Thorough and Focused . . . as you should be and . . . We hope you never change. They want $peed at a level which *cannot be done unless the tech cuts every corner possible* for maximum profit and in many cases afterwards the car Is Still As Broke as when it came in. On top of that you may find something else is broke or is breaking soon after. Gotta Love Little Johnny . . .
The tech's are pissed that they don't make enough $$$ and . . . probably don't.
Nationwide they are perhaps in need of 3,000 tech's and many of those who are still on the job need to be Closely Re Evaluated and/or Retrained. Also, some sort of Local Gov't QC Insp. for Dealership Repairs needs to be created and I mean $$$ome kind of QC with Teeth in it. *But That's Just Me and My Stupid Way of Thinking*
Yep. Just paid for this at dealer $400. My hubbie could have done this or my handyman
I don't think I will ever own an FA or FB engined car, So much extra stuff to leak unlike an early model EJ powered car.
Has @MrSubaru1387 made a video about the recent Subaru Battery Drain lawsuit. Would love to here his input on what is the issues since dealers always keep things vague.
From what I read it's CAN commination that don't go into sleep mode so not sure if it's just a battery capacity or does anything else get changed out
Thanks for the video, is this similar on the H6?
Mr Subaru. Do you have a video on re sealing the timing cover on the jen one crosstrek. Timing chain guides and tensioners as well. If I'm in there I might as well with 235k
Not yet. Likely soon enough on my 2013 Crosstrek.