Grew for 5 years, fortunately only lost a few oz here and there to the mold curse Heck had a auto strain I was growing that molded while finishing up 😭 Haven't grown baccy yet so that's gonna be a journey
@@keybgbeez5713 I guerrilla grew weed for 10 years with my bro, damp falls were a real curse, sometimes necessitating baking soda water with a touch of dish soap in it sprayed on. Now I've been growing tobacco in my backyard for 3 years. Mold is only a problem with tobacco during curing, or improper storage. It's funny that when your ego says you know it all, mother nature puts you in your place. Sometimes it's a battle between the leaves drying too fast before they brown completely then you got useless green tobacco, or keeping them moist enough to finish browning without molding. I have also followed bad advice, like 'sweating' leaves in blankets, then I wound up with 'canned spinach' being hung up to dry and didn't like the results. Also don't sandwich leaves in paper towel or paper rag to cure, the good juices soak into the paper and you wind up with wrapping tissue leaves, very thin, which makes weak and unsatisfying smoke.
Ever use a humidity pack like a Boveda during the jar aging process? They maintain the RH at a fixed percentage (65% or 70% etc) by adding or removing moisture as needed. Planning my first grow this year and want to cure/age the tobacco using the simplest methods as possible. I do not mind having to wait a year or more if I have to. Enjoyed all your videos!
Your vids are great. Curious to see how native techniques/approaches may differ or not. I’m growing mine for ceremonial use, so happy you share so much 💜
Howdy S'PC! I kicked smoking years ago. I'm thinking barter, so this year I'm going to try my hand at it. Of course a pipe full wouldn't be out of the question heh heh! They say if you can grow tomaters, and I can grow the snot out of 'em, then you can grow tobacco. It's rest that's a mystery. Can't thank you enough for your expertise. I love an experiment! You the man!
Small amounts of standard mould on tobacco is normal an safe... As lo Ng as u catch it early.....dry It and spank it to send the mould airborne outside an get back to fermenting..... a serious outbreak u can dump...but a ltl mould is normal an safe as long as it ain't weird colours an smells Like death lol
I can attest to this because i just bought a (moldy) tobacco leaf to roll my weed in, i took it out the bag and rubbed some of it off (haha😂) checked back today and it was pretty much all gone. Rubbed a little vodka on it just to be safe
I'm growing tobacco for the first time this year and I know the pain all too well. There's so many things you have to worry about. Hopefully I'll get to the stage where I can use this guys tips lol
A fella got out his hookah to smoke traditional with us and I noted back then that he watered it briefly to reconstitute it to use it, so it burned correctly, so he was keeping it drier than smokable. I didn't see where but I think in a bag.
Remember light getting into a moist jar-bag without air flow is a breading ground for mould unless your airing it twice a day, dark cool place after fermentation is the way
Have you ever tried using vacuum sealed bags (like a Foodsaver) for long term storage once you reach an acceptable humidity level? I was also wondering if using a sous vide cooker on a vacuum-sealed bag of tobacco to gently caramelize the sugars and develop flavors might be interesting, I'll have to investigate, I'm sure other people have tried this already.
So.. i can choose between jar or plastic bag in very beginning? The key is keep humidy at 60-70% to avoid mold? No matter is it in jar or bag? Or do i have to do first plasticbag thing and then move it to jars? Thanks for the video and advices. You are doing great!
Can I just ask - is this long term storage or at least it’s preparation the same as fermentation? It seems like this word gets thrown around a lot but no novices (like myself) have a clear idea of when t happens and what it looks like
Finding mold sucks. Thanks for the vid. Luckily I leave it to you professionals to prepare the baccy...I prefer to buy it tinned, bagged or jarred already. 😉 Hope you are well! Have a great week!
Thanks for the vid and good advice. Just a quick question. I'm assuming the humidity would vary depending on the ambient temperature. So at what temp should it be at 65% humidity in the jars?
So to properly make the tobacco fermentation process successful.. all I have to do is cure it then put in a jar for 6 months or more with humidity below 70? That’s it or am I missing something? Thanks
@@smokinpipechannel9602 Thanks for your help on this. Two other questions. Why cure tobacco in a shed? Is it the heat the humidity levels? Secondly, fermenting tobacco in a jar, does simply keeping it in a jar tend to keep the humidity at the right level? Or would I need a humidifier?
Could H2O2 be used as a preservative? It kills mold, bacteria & yeast spores even at very low concentrations 0.1-0.3% one could dilute some 3% hydrogen peroxide from the pharmacy with water and moisten the leaves with it before canning them? Advantage of H2O2 is, it turns into oxygen and water so there is no unwanted additives.
H2O2 does react with nicotine, but according to a paper I've read it turns into cotinine quantitatively. Cotinine retains all positive effects of nicotine (nootropic, antidepressant) whilst being much less toxic. Pharma industry even once considered marketing cotinine as an antidepressant.
Try storing in a cardboard box or a plastic tote.. kept some of my leaves in there for 3-4 years even .. but to tell you the truth .. i dont think they taste any better .. now a days i smoke mine within 10 days of the leaves drying right out , because i use a different fermenting process. The taste , smell ,is just as good, if not better as the aged stuff 🤗
@@NM-pl1ivMost likely he is stoving the tabbaco, you need heat for fermentation to happen faster, when kept at normal temps and humidity levels kept stabled at between 55-63% for long time is called aging. Aging you can say is an extremely slow fermentation.
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Amazon has several vacuum sealers for mason jar lids.
the only thing more depressing then mold on my homegrown baccy is mold on my homegrown weed
love your vids man!
Mold makes me cry. Thanks very much! 🔥🔥🔥
Grew for 5 years, fortunately only lost a few oz here and there to the mold curse
Heck had a auto strain I was growing that molded while finishing up 😭
Haven't grown baccy yet so that's gonna be a journey
you still can smoke it, it will taste almost the same only looks a bit different
@@keybgbeez5713 I guerrilla grew weed for 10 years with my bro, damp falls were a real curse, sometimes necessitating baking soda water with a touch of dish soap in it sprayed on. Now I've been growing tobacco in my backyard for 3 years. Mold is only a problem with tobacco during curing, or improper storage. It's funny that when your ego says you know it all, mother nature puts you in your place. Sometimes it's a battle between the leaves drying too fast before they brown completely then you got useless green tobacco, or keeping them moist enough to finish browning without molding.
I have also followed bad advice, like 'sweating' leaves in blankets, then I wound up with 'canned spinach' being hung up to dry and didn't like the results. Also don't sandwich leaves in paper towel or paper rag to cure, the good juices soak into the paper and you wind up with wrapping tissue leaves, very thin, which makes weak and unsatisfying smoke.
Looks great !! this year's harvest I finished off the fermentation @70% humidity in a large tote and will lower to 60% indefinitely !!!!
Ever use a humidity pack like a Boveda during the jar aging process? They maintain the RH at a fixed percentage (65% or 70% etc) by adding or removing moisture as needed. Planning my first grow this year and want to cure/age the tobacco using the simplest methods as possible. I do not mind having to wait a year or more if I have to. Enjoyed all your videos!
They srip flavor and smell, used em for a few years then noticed my batches (cannabis) were way more potent then the same product with boveda packs.
Your vids are great. Curious to see how native techniques/approaches may differ or not. I’m growing mine for ceremonial use, so happy you share so much 💜
Thanks very much. Hope your plants go well 🔥🔥🔥
Better crispy than moldy 👍👍
Yep, and can always rehydrate it later.
Howdy S'PC! I kicked smoking years ago. I'm thinking barter, so this year I'm going to try my hand at it. Of course a pipe full wouldn't be out of the question heh heh! They say if you can grow tomaters, and I can grow the snot out of 'em, then you can grow tobacco. It's rest that's a mystery. Can't thank you enough for your expertise. I love an experiment! You the man!
That’s some dang good advice Ive lost an entire crop of of organic smoke by jarring it up too soon
It's heartbreaking, for sure.
The best lessons are learned the hard way.
Thanks, I'm growing tobacco for the first time this year. Thanks for sharing
this is good advice to take into consideration as i prepare to germinate my first tobacco plants. Thanks again
Fantastic, good luck! 🔥🔥🔥
Small amounts of standard mould on tobacco is normal an safe... As lo Ng as u catch it early.....dry It and spank it to send the mould airborne outside an get back to fermenting..... a serious outbreak u can dump...but a ltl mould is normal an safe as long as it ain't weird colours an smells Like death lol
I can attest to this because i just bought a (moldy) tobacco leaf to roll my weed in, i took it out the bag and rubbed some of it off (haha😂) checked back today and it was pretty much all gone. Rubbed a little vodka on it just to be safe
Thanks 🍻
It's just too hard to grow tobacco here in the UK, but great tips for those who can 😊👍
I'm growing tobacco for the first time this year and I know the pain all too well. There's so many things you have to worry about.
Hopefully I'll get to the stage where I can use this guys tips lol
It is a learning curve, but when you have bags of free Tobacco, it's all worth it!
A fella got out his hookah to smoke traditional with us and I noted back then that he watered it briefly to reconstitute it to use it, so it burned correctly, so he was keeping it drier than smokable. I didn't see where but I think in a bag.
Remember light getting into a moist jar-bag without air flow is a breading ground for mould unless your airing it twice a day, dark cool place after fermentation is the way
Have you ever tried using vacuum sealed bags (like a Foodsaver) for long term storage once you reach an acceptable humidity level? I was also wondering if using a sous vide cooker on a vacuum-sealed bag of tobacco to gently caramelize the sugars and develop flavors might be interesting, I'll have to investigate, I'm sure other people have tried this already.
So.. i can choose between jar or plastic bag in very beginning? The key is keep humidy at 60-70% to avoid mold? No matter is it in jar or bag? Or do i have to do first plasticbag thing and then move it to jars?
Thanks for the video and advices. You are doing great!
Should i de-stem the leaves before storing?
Great information, thanks for sharing.
Can I just ask - is this long term storage or at least it’s preparation the same as fermentation? It seems like this word gets thrown around a lot but no novices (like myself) have a clear idea of when t happens and what it looks like
Finding mold sucks. Thanks for the vid. Luckily I leave it to you professionals to prepare the baccy...I prefer to buy it tinned, bagged or jarred already. 😉 Hope you are well! Have a great week!
It sure does! Thanks brother 🔥🔥🔥
What kind of bag is that, That you're curing in?
is this the same as fermenting?
Can you vacuum seal the jars.
Thanks for the vid and good advice. Just a quick question. I'm assuming the humidity would vary depending on the ambient temperature. So at what temp should it be at 65% humidity in the jars?
So to properly make the tobacco fermentation process successful.. all I have to do is cure it then put in a jar for 6 months or more with humidity below 70? That’s it or am I missing something? Thanks
As long as it's color cured so it's not green, yes! It'll gas off a lot of ammonia if you give it a smell occasionally, you'll notice that.
@@smokinpipechannel9602 Thanks for your help on this. Two other questions. Why cure tobacco in a shed? Is it the heat the humidity levels? Secondly, fermenting tobacco in a jar, does simply keeping it in a jar tend to keep the humidity at the right level? Or would I need a humidifier?
I cure mine in a warm dry room indoors. Jar or plastic bag stops humid air getting in and the smell amount of humidity from escaping.
do you ferment before storing in this manner?
Mold vs tobacco plumage
Hello!
Very cool thx ✌
So- you make damn sure your humidity is under 70 before sealing your jars for ages?
Pull it out of the jar .. let it dry right out, dust off the mold .. its still good if you caught it early enough
Would a paper bag not be better?
Could H2O2 be used as a preservative? It kills mold, bacteria & yeast spores even at very low concentrations 0.1-0.3% one could dilute some 3% hydrogen peroxide from the pharmacy with water and moisten the leaves with it before canning them? Advantage of H2O2 is, it turns into oxygen and water so there is no unwanted additives.
H2O2 does react with nicotine, but according to a paper I've read it turns into cotinine quantitatively. Cotinine retains all positive effects of nicotine (nootropic, antidepressant) whilst being much less toxic. Pharma industry even once considered marketing cotinine as an antidepressant.
If you hot water can it. That won’t be a problem.
Try storing in a cardboard box or a plastic tote.. kept some of my leaves in there for 3-4 years even .. but to tell you the truth .. i dont think they taste any better .. now a days i smoke mine within 10 days of the leaves drying right out , because i use a different fermenting process. The taste , smell ,is just as good, if not better as the aged stuff 🤗
Mind sharing your drying process?
@@NM-pl1ivMost likely he is stoving the tabbaco, you need heat for fermentation to happen faster, when kept at normal temps and humidity levels kept stabled at between 55-63% for long time is called aging. Aging you can say is an extremely slow fermentation.
Chance of mold exists at anything above 55% rH.
Maannnnn bummer
a little tiny amnt of mold wont hurt nobody 😂
It's just "plume" anyways
Gallon ziplock is fine
I cannot stand MOLD!!!