Liam Swan doesn't see Godzilla winning. He sees Hulk winning. Because Hulk is stronger and faster than Godzilla, Hulk can absorb Godzilla's Atomic Breath because its radiation, and God-demon from Godzilla In Hell is nothing compared to The One Below All.
@@HulkHulk-t7y Yeah cuz Liam can’t scale shit when it comes to Godzilla clearly lol If he did then he would know Godzilla has resisted, adapted, and countered absorption even having his own before. Stats are debatable if you are actually fair and accurate tbh Hulk doesn’t fight True Form The One Below All just an avatar who’s above Mephisto at least, so it doesn’t help him much. And I doubt Liam knows how to scale God Demon or God Mountain or GiH or IDW’s Megaverse.
Pretty sure this is gonna age horribly. I don't think looking at Hulk's previous episodes will be accurate to how they'll view Hulk now. Doomsday was all the way back in Season 3 and i feel Broly was an honest to God fluke if it was made a season later I'm 90% sure Hulk would've won. In the Death Battle Cast for Hulk vs Godzilla even when they brought up Ultima they mostly favored Hulk throughout it.
Yeah those idiots don’t know shit about Godzilla, they think ultima is the most impressive, they think Radiation absorption is a good win con for Hulk against Godzilla even tho many versions of Godzilla have faced and countered and adapted to this before even being able to counter absorb, like Heisei Godzilla so they don’t know shit which is frustrating and worrying cuz I don’t want them to fuck up too badly, even if Godzilla does not win that’s not the worst I love both characters yet if they do him dirty in stats and Haxs and character then I’ll be fucken pissed off.
Not to mention that they could easily scale Hulk to the mostly accurate stays they gave Thor, not to mention that I don't think your reading of the way they described Hulk's powers in Vs Broly was very accurate.
@@vaggos2003 It's kinda difficult, i would love to see this happen one day but i also don't want it at the same time mainly because of how bad Transformers is being treated on Death Battle
It is confirmed that Godzilla absorbed God mountain power after killing him. It is also confirmed by the end of Godzilla in hell Godzilla is more powerful than he has ever been before. I get what mean about a comp Godzilla but a comp character isn't really supposed to make sense almost every comp character doesn't make sense.
@@1fishmob hay Godzilla beat hell with out using it so he probably knew he didn't need it to win. This Godzilla has a nuclear pulse and he only using it in Godzilla in hell 1 sooo
@@1fishmob the writers confirmed Godzilla killed God mountain even the comic said Godzilla killed God mountain. And the writers confirmed Godzilla absorbed God mountain power after killing him
Would be a pretty epic battle though. If I were to go on fact alone, I'd probably say Hulk would eventually get the upper hand since he gets stronger the longer he fights.
Idk cuz they favored him in the death battle cast and showed their extreme ignorance on Godzilla acting like radiation absorption isn’t something he’s faced and countered many times and has the ability to do as well so they think it’s a good win con for Hulk. Most people don’t know how to scale Godzilla so I don’t trust most normies or even scalers to get it right.
Since they mentioned Marvel Godzilla being on par with Thor in Godzilla VS Gamera, I'd be surprised if they don't mention that incarnation of Godzilla easily curbing the Hulk in this episode. We'll just have to see how this goes down, however.
That was classic hulk who’s massively weaker than he is now cuz of his insane growth over time, so Marvel Godzilla doesn’t do shit to current Hulk, they likely will mention it yet he isn’t a win con at all, he’s not even the strongest Godzilla.
I agree with some of your points on Hulk. I think death battle hasn’t exactly handled him the best, but I think the idea that they would give Godzilla stuff that he’s only used once before isn’t as unreasonable as you would think I ,they try to look at characters at their best and if they don’t include that they’re just ignoring an entire part of the character that could affect the factor of the fight. It’s like what they did with hyper and sonic versus Mario (2018) yeah they could’ve not include it because sonic is only used it once and not since they wanted to include the characters at there best so they included it
Hulk continues to suffer more and more mismatches, with his new opponent literally being 7 different Eldritch gods and composed of pure energy that mauled him once in an actual crossover before
Hulk should've won every single one of his matchups on death battle. Not just death battle but most people don't understand Hulk's true power and they always seem to downplay him (probably cuz their only knowledge on him are from the MCU) when in reality Hulk is so SO MUCH MORE OP.
@ He should’ve beat Broly into the ground no doubt, doomsday is still a 50/50 ish but Hulk takes that most of the time. Godzilla is a completely different story however (because he godstomps) and I fear for both characters will be done terribly, looking at how god-awful their research team is when it comes to characters with actual variety and different iterations
@@hakeeemquaviantaviusI don't agree that Godzilla stomps Hulk in fact Hulk should have way higher scaling than Godzilla but yeah I agree with you that Hulk just no diffs Broly and I also agree that Hulk vs Doomsday would at least be a tie (tho imo Hulk wins against Doomsday high diff).
@@jeremysans1463Godzilla is more underestimated by scalers and vs Shows and causals than Hulk tbh Godzilla can reach those levels that Hulk does depending on the version, I think it’s a debatable match up especially cuz both are hard to kill with multiple types of immortality (idk how Fishmob thought Goji didn’t tho), and Both are Haxs tanks that Regen and adapt a lot too.
Here is another potential rebuttal to potential "Godzilla killed God and the Hulk never did anything close to that" argument: Aside the fact Godzilla used God's power against him and lost it afterwards, we never really SEE God dying proper. We only see Godzilla blasting God with God Atomic Ray, and the portal between Heaven and Hell closes. We don't really know if the aatck killed God or just injured him enough to dismiss the portal. Also, the Hulk did managed to thunderclap a manifestation of the One Bellow All alway, and the One Bellow All is the "Hulk" personality of the One Above All. Sure, it is explicity stated that in the comic that was just a manifestation of the One Bellow All, and the Hulk himself admits another Thunderclap will not work, but the Hulk did managed to harm a incarnation of God with his own power, not borrowed that from God himself. Also there is the Issues between comparing God from Godzilla in Hell and the One Above All from Marvel cosmology. No evidence that the former is as powerful as the latter, as we don't really know if God is creator of the entire cosmology of Godzilla verse or just the creator of the universe and the afterlife of that continuity of Godzilla...
If we just stick to the versions from Godzilla in Hell and Godzilla Rulers of Earth, which are the two most powerful versions of the character in IDW comics, might end more in a draw.
Honestly I actually see them going the full composite route. In that regard Godzilla is simply more ridiculous in comparison. Godzilla can absorb radiation that doesn't have to be an exclusive variation of it unlike his opponent. Not only that, Godzilla could win arguments on the stats to a degree. Size is no real importance in this whatsoever. What does mean though is Hulk going to struggle hard against the King of the Monsters.
People underestimate Godzilla a lot and think he gets stomped it’s annoying when he has arguments to rival if not surpass a lot of arguments for a hulk, it’s a debatable match up at least. I did hate how Death Battle Cast said Hulk absorbing radiation was a good win con against Godzilla as if he has never faced and countered this before or he doesn’t absorb radiation in many ways, not to mention he can absorb all types of energy not just radiation but they are clearly ignorant, especially in thinking Ultima is the strongest. I hate the size argument with people who use it as a point against the match up and for it, like some like the David and Goliath style yet then will still go and say well it’s bad cuz Godzilla can’t show off his combat skills with a tiny guy cuz he’s used to Kaiju so it’s limiting, it’s so dumb. In World Breaker Hulk iirc it was Heart of the Monster where Red SheHulk and Hulk were going crazy with Gama radiation and absorbed some, they grew so massive they were bigger than mountains and they stomped on Fin Fang Foom who is Godzilla sized so he can just grow to fight Godzilla. You can start off small and do the David and Goliath shit then grow when we go to most cosmic level battles and there you get the best of both worlds! I do think Godzilla has a good chance to win, he’s definitely better with haxs offensively and his adaption, yet both are hax and physical tanks with Op Regen so it’ll be a dragged out battle.
Complete comp means they will have to give hulk his toba and mother of horrors scaling. Also iirc he broke first firmaments chains in the recent comics
@@allotiranog6074 That’s not Hulk, this is a bad misconception, it is The One Below All using the corpse of Hulk he killed Hulk and Bruce it isn’t a form they are dead and he took their body, it would not be a win for them.
@@shawtank6912 I hope you don’t mean him becoming TOBA and just him slapping that avatar cuz Breaker of Worlds Hulk is just TOBA who kills Bruce and Hulk which uses their corpse as a vessel. The Elder and ManThing scaling is definitely very good for Hulk.
@@vaggos2003You didn’t ask me but I’ll give my thoughts as I’m knowledgeable on both sides. I have not seen them all tho the one I did see were not very good like rewind rumble but I can grantee they didn’t do in-depth research that is even close to accurate for both cuz it is not easy, it takes years to properly do, and a lot of stuff is hard to find, and etc. I might check them all out to see if they are enjoyable or get the character aspect right maybe. But I only trust a few people to get these characters right; TheChadChamp a friend and RUclips scaler who has scaled Hulk for years as long as I’ve known him which is at least since 2018, he’s read all things Hulk or near it, he is the best at Hulk I know so I suggest his channel for Hulk scaling like he did a great Hulk inverse tier list. Godzilla King of the Monsters is the same but for Kaiju especially related to Godzilla and Toho, he’s been doing it since Google+, he has friends that all work together to help out in his main server making threads upon threads filled with more scans and rare translations and calcs than anywhere else on Kaiju and such, he’s the pioneer of the higher metas and in-depth research for many gojis like Heisei Godzilla, and they found everything for Godzilla in Hell. They even got their hands on the Novel for Singular Point a whole year before forums like VS battles wiki had it. I highly recommend his channel for info on Godzilla and related Kaiju. Goji-Chronic an associate of ours is also very good with Kaiju and other stuff but Gkotm did help him with most of his Kaiju stuff yet his channel is pretty good. King of Godzilla another friend of ours is in the same group and knows about the same as we do just not to the same degree as Gkotm but he did do a great video on Godzilla in Hell I highly recommend as no other one on RUclips does it this well and it’s not even everything we have so he might remake it. It is a dream project that one day we will work together to cover the match up Godzilla versus Hulk but that’s not anytime soon as we are still small and there’s more organizing to be done. I do hope Death Battle gets their character right and themes right, I hope the fight and animation is peak, and I hope to god that it is at least accurate enough to not be downplay or just be stupidly one sided which is wrong, I know they can’t do it perfectly yet I hope for the best.
I’m hoping the battle will be entertaining and fun episode like joker vs giorno and speaking of which did you saw the episode what you’re thoughts on it came out today
I liked the episode. I'm just flabbergasted at how they could bungle the research for the last episode and then 360 X2 back to actually making a strong argument.
Considering the cast death battle they did I don’t think godzilla will for sure win since hulk actually won that one, I know judging off of cast death battles can be iffy but then again omniman v bardock remained consistent in its outcome so who really knows.
Yeah they had a bad understanding of Godzilla thinking Hulk having radiation absorption is a good win con that might GG Godzilla when he’s resisted, adapted, countered and done it himself many times. Also I hope they don’t bank on Ultima cuz he is not the strongest or most Op, that is still Godzilla in Hell and I really doubt they will scale him right cuz it’s not as simple and all the details are clarified by the authors due to the nature of the comic being mostly visual.
@@tposeinggojirainshoes4650 Yeah if they use Heisei they have to talk about SpaceGodzilla and not just the fact he came from a blackhole with the energy of supernovas but also the stuff about him being super dimensional and having super gravity which is higher dimensional gravity and how he is said to have infinite energy but even then that is not the best scaling Godzilla has yet is it impressive and should be mentioned ofc. But yeah SG is a perfect example of him being drained of energy then countering it after he adapts taking his energy and stopping him from draining him and overcoming him like it’s said if SG tried to absorb his energy again after he absorbed some of his infinite power and adapted then it would of destroyed SG.
I think they should only do self-composite godzilla, aka only using the official material that was officially made by toho, which includes • Showa, Heisei, Millennium, and the Riwa era • Manga and novelization adaptations. • Any guides and statement by toho And lot of other things that i likely have forgotten or stuff i wasn't aware of.
I think it’s a bit dumb to complain about ultima and shin and earth if it’s a full composite, it’s fine to pick which to choose tho if it’s just a comp then it’s everything official duh. Which is my issue with what Fishmob was saying, but I get where he is coming from, it is best to pick versions that don’t conflict and fit better yet it’s comp it does not need to make sense. Now we can discuss and pick what fits best together ofc, we can composite a version of Godzilla like Heisei Godzilla has many versions of itself in games and mangas and such, so that alone can be a composite. Like there’s two manga versions of Heisei Godzilla, there’s Heisei Goji in the Atari Pipework games, Heisei Goji in PS4 game, Heisei Goji in Dragon Quest, Heisei Godzilla in Super Godzilla, and Heisei Godzilla in Monster Strike, I think that’s all the versions atm. Also a lot of versions of Godzilla are different across the moves eras alone and the last two eras has tons of different ones so it is kinda hard to make a consistent semi comp tbh. I guess it is fair or makes sense to stick to Toho if you want but besides the American movies all things are made by or official sanctioned by Toho. It would be a real shame and not very popular if they just left our Godzilla in Hell and the other comics and likely Ultima as well cuz they will claim they handicapped Godzilla, tho some are fine with not using ultima yet I think it would be a shame and missed opportunity to leave out GiH for the character and parallels and not to nerf Goji.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSoulsI don't think Death Battle even have the permission to use Godzilla, TOHO are fiercely protective of him. If they find out that Godzilla died they might get the video taken down.
@ Yeah I wouldn’t put it past them ngl but Slick and a few other animators have made battles which Godzillas die but they are small yet Death Battle is massive since they might notice. They are strict assholes with even just clips and music even when it’s used in fair use with transformative work so I wouldn’t put it past them, my friends who scale Godzilla be use clips get shit a lot from Toho.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls mhm I think the reason why slick got a pass is because he was using Godzillas against each other, here they're using marvel characters. Imma be honest they should've used another monster than Hulk.
@ I guess that is true and fair lol tho sometimes Godzilla dies to other monsters and things but it’s rare. Also Marvel Godzilla is a thing but they don’t even have the rights to say his name now so it could cause issues with the two clashing lol Well I think Hulk is one of Godzilla’s best opponents but there are still many to choose especially for specific versions, like Showa Godzilla vs Showa Gamera or Showa Godzilla vs Showa Ultraman or Godzilla Ultima vs Void Ghidorah or Godzilla in Hell vs Cthulhu and etc.
Okay the solar disc was right weight is linked to gravity it's how to measure planets along with their interactions with small planets . the super sayin bardock is in a what if scenario idk if it's cannon . plus I do agree hulk does get done dirty a lot he hasn't won a death battle but knowing screw attack they are going to appease the Godzilla fandom.
No it was not right, it was an inflated ever other calc done on it is much lower and it makes no sense consistently or narratively for Omniman being Large Star level of smashing into a planet could kill him without help, and he was scared of the Infinity gun which only causes stars to supernova via destabilizing them, and it’s not back up at all.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls It has a little bit of consistency since the space racer gun is stated to destroy stars and you can argue viltrumites would scale above that, very shaky though.
@@nuggetgod2618 The Gun destabilizes the core of stars and plants to do it but either way no one scales, Nolan put it in the book of things that could kill his species, they needed it to bust the planet as well, so they don’t scale at all.
Godzilla has a legitimate argument to win too if both are done right but I’m fine with either winning as long as both get done right, I do hate the mentality that Hulk wins and it’s one sided so the only way Godzilla could win is if they downplay hulk which isn’t true.
@@1fishmob Yeah that’s understandable and I’m just hoping if Godzilla loses it’s not cuz oh no Hulk absorbs his energy and he’s never faced this bs or cuz Godzilla is barely multi or just 4D and Hulk’s Outer aka downplay, or they just deny author statements and call God Demon & God Mountain featless or some other dumb downplay, or they don’t get into Haxs much.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls It is. Godzilla only has like 3 incarnations that even have feats on par with Hulk. Yes, I’m considering the Marvel and DC version as well. *Consistently* Hulk is rated higher and has better resistances.
@@DHworldwide185 “Consistently” that’s dumb there is no one version of Godzilla. Also DC Godzilla is not that strong, it is not fighting the main era canon Superman this is misinformation. Marvel Godzilla isn’t that impressive either he only stomped a classic savage hulk and Hulk is massively stronger now. There are only a few versions of Godzilla that can be argued to match the Hulk depending on how you scale him and them ofc, Super Robot Wars Godzilla scales to the Anti Spiral, Monster Strike Godzilla is pretty cracked if you look into it with scaling above time and space even concepts just being a game version of Heisei Godzilla, Heisei Godzilla on his own is quite cracked and can be scaled quite high depending on the arguments and he’s Op in Haxs, Ultima’s true form in the novels are also quite cracked and can be scaled anywhere from 5D to maybe Outer, but they are all just beneath the true Strongest which is still Godzilla in Hell and he has solid arguments for anything from 5D to High Outer or more, he’s very busted in resistances even more than the others who themselves are hax tanks and he’s got his own Op Haxs too. So it isn’t one sided it is debatable and it depends on what is used and what is argued of course.
I'm praying Hulk wins this time around. If they're using all his best and current feats he stomps due to his conceptual breaking nature and the fact that he folded Eldritch beings that are on par with The One Above All near the start of his current run and is now fighting Eldest who's the strongest of the Eldritch children of Mother of Horrors who want's to use the Hulk's "God Flesh" to Destroy TOAA/TOBA. Even Ultima can't compare to that as he is at least multi Dimensional as far as his powers extend while Fractured Son Hulk is far above the Hulk that fought the U-Foes in the Crossroads where he clashed with Iron Clad creating a shockwave that shook Infinite Dimensions within a few moments and keep in mind Hulk was shrunk down to microscopic size before entering the crossroads along with the U-Foes so at best he could've potentially destroyed Infinite Dimensions if he was normal sized and even if the Dimensions were cut off his punch still had enough speed and force to spread across all creation that fast and likely could've done far worse if he wasn't holding back. And Fractured Son Hulk is far above that in base.
It’s crazy because his best feat you’ve mentioned is breaking concepts and that only gets to hyper-low outer which Godzilla exceeds in 1000 different aspects
@@hakeeemquaviantavius The concepts he breaks goes far beyond Hyper he's literally more powerful than TOAA and TOBA in his base and scales above the Nexus of All Realities which is in fact ALL REALITIES as in Outer. His Infinite Dimensional feat was done while he was nerfed and shrunken down to microscopic size and yet he still generated a shockwave that traveled Infinity and beyond on some Buzz Lightyear Type stuff and he was still holding back even then. Current Hulk Outscales ridiculously and we still haven't seem him go all out yet. Fractured Son Hulk is above any Composite Hulk and even the current writer Phillip Kennedy Johnson confirms he is in fact above every other version of Hulk from every prior appearance which would include Space Punisher Hulk who casually one shot 6 Watchers who Out scale the Celestials and the Sky Fathers. He's above Manga-Verse Hulk who is a literal fusion of Godzilla and Hulk and on top of that is a gag character that plays with Constellation's like a Yoyo. Yeah even if you wanna use ridiculous versions of Godzilla Current Hulk still scales significantly higher.
@@DFGHulkOfficial hulk is nowhere near above TOBA or TOAA lmao, let alone in his base form. Everything you listed just goes into high outer, which composite Godzilla reaches with literally just one iteration and has an insanely larger amount of hax that benefit him. You list infinite dimensions as if Godzilla didn’t exceed those like 3 times already (SRW, Mighty Morphin, GiH), Godzilla violates everyone that Hulk beat before via outscaling and outhaxing due to scaling above the IDW Godzilla multiverse which includes DnD, Magic the Gathering, Power Rangers, Evangelion and etc., it’s not really a good feat (considering he also just beat up the House of Ideas back in their crossover), Manga Hulk only counts as a fusion of Godzilla in terms of design, and gag characters are fodder and they only have reality manipulation which people call “toon force” for whatever reason. They don’t scale anywhere in fact lol As for Comp Hulk he still isn’t really qualified. All of the feats you listed were already done by Godzilla
@@hakeeemquaviantavius Hulk does scale to TOAA/TOBA it explicitly states this in the first 4 issues of the current Hulk run and Marvel's scaling has far surpassed high Outer. Hulk can break through narratives and destroy living concepts on a scale unfathomable. He's not even bound by his own narrative cus even when he fought Eldest who scales to the likes of TOAA he still manages to overpower her. Hulk has surpassed imagination on multiple levels over and over again before even this current run and this is all 616. He scales above the Cross Roads which is Infinite Dimensions, He scales above the Dark Dimension which is filled with Infinite sized Universes and other Dimensions, He scales above Nightmare's Realm which scales above Imagination, He scales above the Nexus of All Realities which is literally verbatim All of Marvel's existence across Infinite Stories, idea's and so on. Hulk has ascended past all of this and now in his base he is unbound. "Godzilla can just leave the story and beat up the writer/editor" So? Dr Strange can just say one spell that world kill the reader and destroy the comic and said reader is you or me the book refers to and the spell isn't directed at the reader but rather his opponent. She-Hulk from her sensational days can rip the comic she's in and escape to fight her editors or the reader. Deadpool can also escape the main Marvel continuity and invade the company and take out the publishers and this was old school Marvel from the 70s to the 90s which Current Marvel far surpasses. And Hulk scales above that so Godzilla's cooked while even the strongest Godzilla on a consistent basis doesn't show anywhere near these insane levels. Unless you ignore all context for Godzilla and just mix and blend all his feats from every single version of him and wank them as high as possible only then do you get him at high Outer and beyond. You have to be really picky with Godzilla to get him that high but all I have to do for Hulk is just pick his main canon 616 and he's already done all the same stuff all those Godzilla's have and more so at the end of the day Hulk in his base from the main 616 comics is far beyond any version of Godzilla with proper scaling.
@@DFGHulkOfficialI’m not gonna read all this horribly written shit there’s no spacing or structure at all just lazy text walls and a bunch of nonsense. But no you’re wrong, The Mother of Horrors isn’t on par with The One Above All nothing says that, the Eldest isn’t close either that isn’t stated at all, Hulk is not on the level tier cuz we saw in the last arc if he let’s The One Below All in it would kill Hulk and Bruce then take their corpse to use as a vessel which is likely what the Mother of Horrors plans to do but I need to read it again to double check since you can’t be bothered to quote shit yet I know most of what you said there was incorrect or flawed cuz I read most of it and I talk to my friend TheChadChamp who’s the best Hulk scaler around and has a channel where he talks about it, he cleared shit up and debunked this shit. Maybe you should check him out and talk to him, he’s chill and willing to discuss it. And you’re clearly ignorant on Godzilla scaling, Godzilla in Hell is far stronger than you know and he can easily challenge the Hulk. I suggest you watch videos by King of Godzilla a friend of mine who’s one of the best at Godzilla he made GiH videos tho he did not go over everything cuz he can get it higher and will update it later, yet it will give you an idea.
If theyre ginna use composite versions of the character like they mostly do....Sweet baby jesus a composite godzilla would be absolutely unstoppable Byt yeah tbh Hulk is more likely to lose consdiering his track record on Death Battle The fight is gonna be cool though at least
For my actual thoughts of who wins disregarding what death battle generally does, I’d say come sorting the composting gods who get into the infinite power rangers so I’m siding with Godzilla.
If you watch Hulk VS Godzilla DEATH BATTLE Cast, Liam Swan doesn't see Godzilla winning. He seems to see Hulk winning. Here's why: 1. Hulk is immortal. 2. Hulk is stronger and faster than Godzilla. 3. Hulk can absorb Godzilla's Atomic Breath because its radiation. 4. Hulk is stronger than Thor, and is above the Sentry. 5. God-demon from Godzilla In Hell is nothing compared to The One Below All and The One Above All.
Immortality literally doesn’t scale you anywhere crossverse He’s not stronger and he’s barely faster Godzilla’s atomic breath is pure energy Godzilla outscales both Thor and Sentry God Mountain scales above IDW which includes marvel itself, and Godzilla one-shot him and absorbed his powers If it’s Comp vs Comp, Godzilla mauls horrendously. Comics vs Comics, hulk only due to him having more Hax. Movie vs movie, Godzilla stomps (literally). Games vs Games, Godzilla again absolutely mauls.
@@HydragonofDeath faulty and doesn’t address anything major. It’s easy to argue against it since everything against IDW godzilla is just “erm no proof” when there is
@@HydragonofDeath js plus he literally just says “GiH lost the godly amp” when it’s been stated multiple times that he kept the amp and became god, and also he ignores the other IDW Godzillas (mighty morphin, rage across time, rulers of earth)
I agree with what you say!!, but what I think is important is to have fun with the episode. Which is (what I feel it is ) technically the point of this series, to entertain the audience and have a fun time.
Expect when they don’t do their research and say stupid shit that’s incorrect or just downplays characters for stupid reasons or due to sheer ignorance, or cuz they buy some stupid line of reasoning or flawed feat and etc. Like Omniman vs Bardock I loved that one in almost every aspect until we got to the result where they dropped the ball on the most obvious death battle and made up some bullshit to make Omniman win. That feat was only ever calculated that high once and all other versions are massively lower consistently so they didn’t double check their numbers or check around to make sure they got it right, not to mention it is not consistent feats wise and calcs wise or narratively consistent since they struggled to bust a large planet and would die alone without the Infinity Gun which is something Nolan feared could kill him and it busts stars only by destabilizing it but sure he’s large Star level as if that fucked makes sense. Wank his speed cuz guides explain they make warp gates to go long distances but It doesn’t matter as much. Bardock could of been higher than they said and could of still won against wanked Omniman if we high ball with the anime, if we are fair and stick to consistency he is still higher, there’s no way he should of lost if they were not incompetent morons that somehow fumbled a easy win for Bardock. It made it hard to enjoy even talking about the match up after the results cuz of how stupid and wrong it was, I am more calm now yer you see I am still pissed when I talk about it cuz it was bad. And I think it’s understandable to be annoyed when people mess up basic scaling and can’t double check their sources to get it right. If they have Godzilla not even universal even when using Showa, Heisei, Ultima, and GiH then it would be wrong and bad objectively so excuse me if I don’t want them to be stupid and actually put in effort to get it at least a bit accurate to the point it isn’t lazy dumb shit.
Camon men I'm a huge fan of Godzilla and yet I know that (even if whe count hell Godzilla) when Hulk uses TOBA he instantly wins, it's not even a fight and that's boring
This is just ignorance and stupidity. Hulk can’t use TOBA, you clearly didn’t read the fucken comic right, TOBA killed Bruce and the Hulk then used their corpse as a vessel for it so it can have a fitting avatar in the multiverse so it isn’t a form it is not even Hulk cuz TOBA killed him.
@hakeeemquaviantavius It's TOBA using Hulk's corpse, I think they are going to count It and put TOBA as the winner since it's Death Battle they have already done things like that (when I said using TOBA I meant using the comic and the feats)
@@allotiranog6074 That would be stupid and lame, people would hate it, no one wants that lame ass evil God win. They would get shit from both sides cuz no one wins so it’s an L. Hulk only fought an Avatar or manifestation of TOBA it was stronger than Mephisto but nothing too ridiculous.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Liam counted TOBA Hulk in Death Battle cast that's the problem. But if that gets debunked and they don't count it maybe Godzilla wins
For anyone wondering, I don't watch Death Battle Cast. I find podcasts harder to watch than it is for me to find full-time employment right now.
Liam Swan doesn't see Godzilla winning. He sees Hulk winning.
Because Hulk is stronger and faster than Godzilla,
Hulk can absorb Godzilla's Atomic Breath because its radiation,
and God-demon from Godzilla In Hell is nothing compared to The One Below All.
@@HulkHulk-t7y Yeah cuz Liam can’t scale shit when it comes to Godzilla clearly lol
If he did then he would know Godzilla has resisted, adapted, and countered absorption even having his own before.
Stats are debatable if you are actually fair and accurate tbh
Hulk doesn’t fight True Form The One Below All just an avatar who’s above Mephisto at least, so it doesn’t help him much.
And I doubt Liam knows how to scale God Demon or God Mountain or GiH or IDW’s Megaverse.
@@1fishmob I kinda relate to the whole not-into-podcasts thing, unless the topic reeeeeally interests me.
Pretty sure this is gonna age horribly. I don't think looking at Hulk's previous episodes will be accurate to how they'll view Hulk now. Doomsday was all the way back in Season 3 and i feel Broly was an honest to God fluke if it was made a season later I'm 90% sure Hulk would've won. In the Death Battle Cast for Hulk vs Godzilla even when they brought up Ultima they mostly favored Hulk throughout it.
Yeah those idiots don’t know shit about Godzilla, they think ultima is the most impressive, they think Radiation absorption is a good win con for Hulk against Godzilla even tho many versions of Godzilla have faced and countered and adapted to this before even being able to counter absorb, like Heisei Godzilla so they don’t know shit which is frustrating and worrying cuz I don’t want them to fuck up too badly, even if Godzilla does not win that’s not the worst I love both characters yet if they do him dirty in stats and Haxs and character then I’ll be fucken pissed off.
Agree very much.
If anything, this video felt needlessly pessimistic.
Not to mention that they could easily scale Hulk to the mostly accurate stays they gave Thor, not to mention that I don't think your reading of the way they described Hulk's powers in Vs Broly was very accurate.
There was an comic where Godzilla basically takes down Cthulhu
@LordGalvatronYT How is it called again?
"But big Monster"
0:33 I cannot stop laughing XD!!!!
I wish that Death Battle would have done Grimlock from Transformers vs Hulk
I kinda like this MU but you sure you would like such an obvious stomp to happpen?
@@vaggos2003 It's kinda difficult, i would love to see this happen one day but i also don't want it at the same time mainly because of how bad Transformers is being treated on Death Battle
@luukzilla1519 Grimlock has a better opponent that is a fairer fight, it's Q-Rex from Power Rangers.
@@TheSillyCroc That could be a interesting matchup too
I remember Frieza vs. Megatron
It is confirmed that Godzilla absorbed God mountain power after killing him.
It is also confirmed by the end of Godzilla in hell Godzilla is more powerful than he has ever been before.
I get what mean about a comp Godzilla but a comp character isn't really supposed to make sense almost every comp character doesn't make sense.
Then why don't we see that power used through out the story?
@@1fishmob hay Godzilla beat hell with out using it so he probably knew he didn't need it to win.
This Godzilla has a nuclear pulse and he only using it in Godzilla in hell 1 sooo
@@soniczillasaurus5491 I decided to look back at the comic again. He didn't even kill nor gain God's power, it was a just a force field.
@@1fishmob it has been confirmed by many writers Godzilla did absorb God mountain power after killing him.
@@1fishmob the writers confirmed Godzilla killed God mountain even the comic said Godzilla killed God mountain.
And the writers confirmed Godzilla absorbed God mountain power after killing him
Wait death battle is doing Godzilla vs hulk
Yup.
Imagine if this ends up being a draw
I really hope they don't downplay Hulk again like they did in Hulk vs Doomsday and Hulk vs Broly.
Would be a pretty epic battle though. If I were to go on fact alone, I'd probably say Hulk would eventually get the upper hand since he gets stronger the longer he fights.
Death Battle forgot to mention there is an comic where Godzilla took down Cthulhu himself here
well I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees death battle do characters dirty like the Hulk and Bardock
I think the biases against Hulk will always prevail
Idk cuz they favored him in the death battle cast and showed their extreme ignorance on Godzilla acting like radiation absorption isn’t something he’s faced and countered many times and has the ability to do as well so they think it’s a good win con for Hulk.
Most people don’t know how to scale Godzilla so I don’t trust most normies or even scalers to get it right.
Since they mentioned Marvel Godzilla being on par with Thor in Godzilla VS Gamera, I'd be surprised if they don't mention that incarnation of Godzilla easily curbing the Hulk in this episode. We'll just have to see how this goes down, however.
That was classic hulk who’s massively weaker than he is now cuz of his insane growth over time, so Marvel Godzilla doesn’t do shit to current Hulk, they likely will mention it yet he isn’t a win con at all, he’s not even the strongest Godzilla.
I agree with some of your points on Hulk. I think death battle hasn’t exactly handled him the best, but I think the idea that they would give Godzilla stuff that he’s only used once before isn’t as unreasonable as you would think I ,they try to look at characters at their best and if they don’t include that they’re just ignoring an entire part of the character that could affect the factor of the fight. It’s like what they did with hyper and sonic versus Mario (2018) yeah they could’ve not include it because sonic is only used it once and not since they wanted to include the characters at there best so they included it
Hulk continues to suffer more and more mismatches, with his new opponent literally being 7 different Eldritch gods and composed of pure energy that mauled him once in an actual crossover before
Hulk should've won every single one of his matchups on death battle. Not just death battle but most people don't understand Hulk's true power and they always seem to downplay him (probably cuz their only knowledge on him are from the MCU) when in reality Hulk is so SO MUCH MORE OP.
@ He should’ve beat Broly into the ground no doubt, doomsday is still a 50/50 ish but Hulk takes that most of the time.
Godzilla is a completely different story however (because he godstomps) and I fear for both characters will be done terribly, looking at how god-awful their research team is when it comes to characters with actual variety and different iterations
@@hakeeemquaviantaviusI don't agree that Godzilla stomps Hulk in fact Hulk should have way higher scaling than Godzilla but yeah I agree with you that Hulk just no diffs Broly and I also agree that Hulk vs Doomsday would at least be a tie (tho imo Hulk wins against Doomsday high diff).
@@jeremysans1463 they both get somewhere into outerversal, it’s just that Godzilla is much farther into it while hulk has more Hax iirc
@@jeremysans1463Godzilla is more underestimated by scalers and vs Shows and causals than Hulk tbh
Godzilla can reach those levels that Hulk does depending on the version, I think it’s a debatable match up especially cuz both are hard to kill with multiple types of immortality (idk how Fishmob thought Goji didn’t tho), and Both are Haxs tanks that Regen and adapt a lot too.
Here is another potential rebuttal to potential "Godzilla killed God and the Hulk never did anything close to that" argument:
Aside the fact Godzilla used God's power against him and lost it afterwards, we never really SEE God dying proper. We only see Godzilla blasting God with God Atomic Ray, and the portal between Heaven and Hell closes. We don't really know if the aatck killed God or just injured him enough to dismiss the portal.
Also, the Hulk did managed to thunderclap a manifestation of the One Bellow All alway, and the One Bellow All is the "Hulk" personality of the One Above All. Sure, it is explicity stated that in the comic that was just a manifestation of the One Bellow All, and the Hulk himself admits another Thunderclap will not work, but the Hulk did managed to harm a incarnation of God with his own power, not borrowed that from God himself.
Also there is the Issues between comparing God from Godzilla in Hell and the One Above All from Marvel cosmology. No evidence that the former is as powerful as the latter, as we don't really know if God is creator of the entire cosmology of Godzilla verse or just the creator of the universe and the afterlife of that continuity of Godzilla...
However there is a version of Godzilla where he defeats Cthulhu however
Hulk 2008 VS Godzilla 2014 (no extended feats outside of movie)
Lame
This might be the worst possible route they could ever choose outside of maybe picking 2008 hulk vs shin, 1954, or minus one.
Hulk will never win death battle
Yeah they down play him every time😔😔😔
Maybe deathbattle should do there research better
Unless he face a opponent so weak that is?
If we just stick to the versions from Godzilla in Hell and Godzilla Rulers of Earth, which are the two most powerful versions of the character in IDW comics, might end more in a draw.
Eh, I wouldn't put "Rulers of Earth" and "amongst the mpst powerful Gojis" in the same sentence if I were you.
@@vaggos2003He’s up there but definitely not top 10
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 👍
If they include the comic where Godzilla where he fights Cthulhu then Hulk got no shot in Hell
@@LordGalvatronYT Maybe.
Honestly I actually see them going the full composite route. In that regard Godzilla is simply more ridiculous in comparison. Godzilla can absorb radiation that doesn't have to be an exclusive variation of it unlike his opponent. Not only that, Godzilla could win arguments on the stats to a degree. Size is no real importance in this whatsoever. What does mean though is Hulk going to struggle hard against the King of the Monsters.
People underestimate Godzilla a lot and think he gets stomped it’s annoying when he has arguments to rival if not surpass a lot of arguments for a hulk, it’s a debatable match up at least.
I did hate how Death Battle Cast said Hulk absorbing radiation was a good win con against Godzilla as if he has never faced and countered this before or he doesn’t absorb radiation in many ways, not to mention he can absorb all types of energy not just radiation but they are clearly ignorant, especially in thinking Ultima is the strongest.
I hate the size argument with people who use it as a point against the match up and for it, like some like the David and Goliath style yet then will still go and say well it’s bad cuz Godzilla can’t show off his combat skills with a tiny guy cuz he’s used to Kaiju so it’s limiting, it’s so dumb.
In World Breaker Hulk iirc it was Heart of the Monster where Red SheHulk and Hulk were going crazy with Gama radiation and absorbed some, they grew so massive they were bigger than mountains and they stomped on Fin Fang Foom who is Godzilla sized so he can just grow to fight Godzilla. You can start off small and do the David and Goliath shit then grow when we go to most cosmic level battles and there you get the best of both worlds!
I do think Godzilla has a good chance to win, he’s definitely better with haxs offensively and his adaption, yet both are hax and physical tanks with Op Regen so it’ll be a dragged out battle.
Complete comp means they will have to give hulk his toba and mother of horrors scaling. Also iirc he broke first firmaments chains in the recent comics
Nah Hulk is going to win with the TOBA form you'll see
@@allotiranog6074 That’s not Hulk, this is a bad misconception, it is The One Below All using the corpse of Hulk he killed Hulk and Bruce it isn’t a form they are dead and he took their body, it would not be a win for them.
@@shawtank6912 I hope you don’t mean him becoming TOBA and just him slapping that avatar cuz Breaker of Worlds Hulk is just TOBA who kills Bruce and Hulk which uses their corpse as a vessel.
The Elder and ManThing scaling is definitely very good for Hulk.
On another note, how well do you think the matchup got handled by other VS shows, those being Rewind Rumble, Show-off Showdown and Not-Death Battle?
As well as they could.
@@1fishmob So, you enjoyed them, I see.
@@vaggos2003You didn’t ask me but I’ll give my thoughts as I’m knowledgeable on both sides.
I have not seen them all tho the one I did see were not very good like rewind rumble but I can grantee they didn’t do in-depth research that is even close to accurate for both cuz it is not easy, it takes years to properly do, and a lot of stuff is hard to find, and etc.
I might check them all out to see if they are enjoyable or get the character aspect right maybe.
But I only trust a few people to get these characters right; TheChadChamp a friend and RUclips scaler who has scaled Hulk for years as long as I’ve known him which is at least since 2018, he’s read all things Hulk or near it, he is the best at Hulk I know so I suggest his channel for Hulk scaling like he did a great Hulk inverse tier list.
Godzilla King of the Monsters is the same but for Kaiju especially related to Godzilla and Toho, he’s been doing it since Google+, he has friends that all work together to help out in his main server making threads upon threads filled with more scans and rare translations and calcs than anywhere else on Kaiju and such, he’s the pioneer of the higher metas and in-depth research for many gojis like Heisei Godzilla, and they found everything for Godzilla in Hell. They even got their hands on the Novel for Singular Point a whole year before forums like VS battles wiki had it.
I highly recommend his channel for info on Godzilla and related Kaiju.
Goji-Chronic an associate of ours is also very good with Kaiju and other stuff but Gkotm did help him with most of his Kaiju stuff yet his channel is pretty good.
King of Godzilla another friend of ours is in the same group and knows about the same as we do just not to the same degree as Gkotm but he did do a great video on Godzilla in Hell I highly recommend as no other one on RUclips does it this well and it’s not even everything we have so he might remake it.
It is a dream project that one day we will work together to cover the match up Godzilla versus Hulk but that’s not anytime soon as we are still small and there’s more organizing to be done.
I do hope Death Battle gets their character right and themes right, I hope the fight and animation is peak, and I hope to god that it is at least accurate enough to not be downplay or just be stupidly one sided which is wrong, I know they can’t do it perfectly yet I hope for the best.
Hulk (2003) vs Godzilla
Godzilla.
If hulk loses, That means We know he is gonna be treated like gokus and batmans... Aka the Lose streak punching bag category
Big green guy vs the king of the monsters
I’m hoping the battle will be entertaining and fun episode like joker vs giorno and speaking of which did you saw the episode what you’re thoughts on it came out today
I liked the episode. I'm just flabbergasted at how they could bungle the research for the last episode and then 360 X2 back to actually making a strong argument.
@@1fishmobThat's Death Battle, folks.
The show of surprises.
Considering the cast death battle they did I don’t think godzilla will for sure win since hulk actually won that one, I know judging off of cast death battles can be iffy but then again omniman v bardock remained consistent in its outcome so who really knows.
Yeah they had a bad understanding of Godzilla thinking Hulk having radiation absorption is a good win con that might GG Godzilla when he’s resisted, adapted, countered and done it himself many times. Also I hope they don’t bank on Ultima cuz he is not the strongest or most Op, that is still Godzilla in Hell and I really doubt they will scale him right cuz it’s not as simple and all the details are clarified by the authors due to the nature of the comic being mostly visual.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls its finna piss me off when they brush off his fight space godzilla
@@tposeinggojirainshoes4650 Yeah if they use Heisei they have to talk about SpaceGodzilla and not just the fact he came from a blackhole with the energy of supernovas but also the stuff about him being super dimensional and having super gravity which is higher dimensional gravity and how he is said to have infinite energy but even then that is not the best scaling Godzilla has yet is it impressive and should be mentioned ofc. But yeah SG is a perfect example of him being drained of energy then countering it after he adapts taking his energy and stopping him from draining him and overcoming him like it’s said if SG tried to absorb his energy again after he absorbed some of his infinite power and adapted then it would of destroyed SG.
I think they should only do self-composite godzilla, aka only using the official material that was officially made by toho, which includes
• Showa, Heisei, Millennium, and the Riwa era
• Manga and novelization adaptations.
• Any guides and statement by toho
And lot of other things that i likely have forgotten or stuff i wasn't aware of.
I think it’s a bit dumb to complain about ultima and shin and earth if it’s a full composite, it’s fine to pick which to choose tho if it’s just a comp then it’s everything official duh. Which is my issue with what Fishmob was saying, but I get where he is coming from, it is best to pick versions that don’t conflict and fit better yet it’s comp it does not need to make sense.
Now we can discuss and pick what fits best together ofc, we can composite a version of Godzilla like Heisei Godzilla has many versions of itself in games and mangas and such, so that alone can be a composite. Like there’s two manga versions of Heisei Godzilla, there’s Heisei Goji in the Atari Pipework games, Heisei Goji in PS4 game, Heisei Goji in Dragon Quest, Heisei Godzilla in Super Godzilla, and Heisei Godzilla in Monster Strike, I think that’s all the versions atm.
Also a lot of versions of Godzilla are different across the moves eras alone and the last two eras has tons of different ones so it is kinda hard to make a consistent semi comp tbh.
I guess it is fair or makes sense to stick to Toho if you want but besides the American movies all things are made by or official sanctioned by Toho.
It would be a real shame and not very popular if they just left our Godzilla in Hell and the other comics and likely Ultima as well cuz they will claim they handicapped Godzilla, tho some are fine with not using ultima yet I think it would be a shame and missed opportunity to leave out GiH for the character and parallels and not to nerf Goji.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSoulsI don't think Death Battle even have the permission to use Godzilla, TOHO are fiercely protective of him. If they find out that Godzilla died they might get the video taken down.
@ Yeah I wouldn’t put it past them ngl but Slick and a few other animators have made battles which Godzillas die but they are small yet Death Battle is massive since they might notice.
They are strict assholes with even just clips and music even when it’s used in fair use with transformative work so I wouldn’t put it past them, my friends who scale Godzilla be use clips get shit a lot from Toho.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls mhm I think the reason why slick got a pass is because he was using Godzillas against each other, here they're using marvel characters. Imma be honest they should've used another monster than Hulk.
@ I guess that is true and fair lol tho sometimes Godzilla dies to other monsters and things but it’s rare.
Also Marvel Godzilla is a thing but they don’t even have the rights to say his name now so it could cause issues with the two clashing lol
Well I think Hulk is one of Godzilla’s best opponents but there are still many to choose especially for specific versions, like Showa Godzilla vs Showa Gamera or Showa Godzilla vs Showa Ultraman or Godzilla Ultima vs Void Ghidorah or Godzilla in Hell vs Cthulhu and etc.
Hun(TMNT) vs Munya(Secret Saturdays)
Okay the solar disc was right weight is linked to gravity it's how to measure planets along with their interactions with small planets . the super sayin bardock is in a what if scenario idk if it's cannon . plus I do agree hulk does get done dirty a lot he hasn't won a death battle but knowing screw attack they are going to appease the Godzilla fandom.
No it was not right, it was an inflated ever other calc done on it is much lower and it makes no sense consistently or narratively for Omniman being Large Star level of smashing into a planet could kill him without help, and he was scared of the Infinity gun which only causes stars to supernova via destabilizing them, and it’s not back up at all.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls It has a little bit of consistency since the space racer gun is stated to destroy stars and you can argue viltrumites would scale above that, very shaky though.
@@nuggetgod2618 The Gun destabilizes the core of stars and plants to do it but either way no one scales, Nolan put it in the book of things that could kill his species, they needed it to bust the planet as well, so they don’t scale at all.
Hulk better win. Im sick of the downplay.
Godzilla has a legitimate argument to win too if both are done right but I’m fine with either winning as long as both get done right, I do hate the mentality that Hulk wins and it’s one sided so the only way Godzilla could win is if they downplay hulk which isn’t true.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls I'm fine with either winning as well. I'm just hoping that if Hulk loses, it's not for any reason I stated in the video.
@@1fishmob Yeah that’s understandable and I’m just hoping if Godzilla loses it’s not cuz oh no Hulk absorbs his energy and he’s never faced this bs or cuz Godzilla is barely multi or just 4D and Hulk’s Outer aka downplay, or they just deny author statements and call God Demon & God Mountain featless or some other dumb downplay, or they don’t get into Haxs much.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls It is. Godzilla only has like 3 incarnations that even have feats on par with Hulk. Yes, I’m considering the Marvel and DC version as well. *Consistently* Hulk is rated higher and has better resistances.
@@DHworldwide185 “Consistently” that’s dumb there is no one version of Godzilla.
Also DC Godzilla is not that strong, it is not fighting the main era canon Superman this is misinformation.
Marvel Godzilla isn’t that impressive either he only stomped a classic savage hulk and Hulk is massively stronger now.
There are only a few versions of Godzilla that can be argued to match the Hulk depending on how you scale him and them ofc, Super Robot Wars Godzilla scales to the Anti Spiral, Monster Strike Godzilla is pretty cracked if you look into it with scaling above time and space even concepts just being a game version of Heisei Godzilla, Heisei Godzilla on his own is quite cracked and can be scaled quite high depending on the arguments and he’s Op in Haxs, Ultima’s true form in the novels are also quite cracked and can be scaled anywhere from 5D to maybe Outer, but they are all just beneath the true Strongest which is still Godzilla in Hell and he has solid arguments for anything from 5D to High Outer or more, he’s very busted in resistances even more than the others who themselves are hax tanks and he’s got his own Op Haxs too.
So it isn’t one sided it is debatable and it depends on what is used and what is argued of course.
I'm praying Hulk wins this time around. If they're using all his best and current feats he stomps due to his conceptual breaking nature and the fact that he folded Eldritch beings that are on par with The One Above All near the start of his current run and is now fighting Eldest who's the strongest of the Eldritch children of Mother of Horrors who want's to use the Hulk's "God Flesh" to Destroy TOAA/TOBA. Even Ultima can't compare to that as he is at least multi Dimensional as far as his powers extend while Fractured Son Hulk is far above the Hulk that fought the U-Foes in the Crossroads where he clashed with Iron Clad creating a shockwave that shook Infinite Dimensions within a few moments and keep in mind Hulk was shrunk down to microscopic size before entering the crossroads along with the U-Foes so at best he could've potentially destroyed Infinite Dimensions if he was normal sized and even if the Dimensions were cut off his punch still had enough speed and force to spread across all creation that fast and likely could've done far worse if he wasn't holding back. And Fractured Son Hulk is far above that in base.
It’s crazy because his best feat you’ve mentioned is breaking concepts and that only gets to hyper-low outer which Godzilla exceeds in 1000 different aspects
@@hakeeemquaviantavius The concepts he breaks goes far beyond Hyper he's literally more powerful than TOAA and TOBA in his base and scales above the Nexus of All Realities which is in fact ALL REALITIES as in Outer. His Infinite Dimensional feat was done while he was nerfed and shrunken down to microscopic size and yet he still generated a shockwave that traveled Infinity and beyond on some Buzz Lightyear Type stuff and he was still holding back even then. Current Hulk Outscales ridiculously and we still haven't seem him go all out yet. Fractured Son Hulk is above any Composite Hulk and even the current writer Phillip Kennedy Johnson confirms he is in fact above every other version of Hulk from every prior appearance which would include Space Punisher Hulk who casually one shot 6 Watchers who Out scale the Celestials and the Sky Fathers. He's above Manga-Verse Hulk who is a literal fusion of Godzilla and Hulk and on top of that is a gag character that plays with Constellation's like a Yoyo. Yeah even if you wanna use ridiculous versions of Godzilla Current Hulk still scales significantly higher.
@@DFGHulkOfficial hulk is nowhere near above TOBA or TOAA lmao, let alone in his base form.
Everything you listed just goes into high outer, which composite Godzilla reaches with literally just one iteration and has an insanely larger amount of hax that benefit him. You list infinite dimensions as if Godzilla didn’t exceed those like 3 times already (SRW, Mighty Morphin, GiH), Godzilla violates everyone that Hulk beat before via outscaling and outhaxing due to scaling above the IDW Godzilla multiverse which includes DnD, Magic the Gathering, Power Rangers, Evangelion and etc., it’s not really a good feat (considering he also just beat up the House of Ideas back in their crossover), Manga Hulk only counts as a fusion of Godzilla in terms of design, and gag characters are fodder and they only have reality manipulation which people call “toon force” for whatever reason. They don’t scale anywhere in fact lol
As for Comp Hulk he still isn’t really qualified. All of the feats you listed were already done by Godzilla
@@hakeeemquaviantavius Hulk does scale to TOAA/TOBA it explicitly states this in the first 4 issues of the current Hulk run and Marvel's scaling has far surpassed high Outer. Hulk can break through narratives and destroy living concepts on a scale unfathomable. He's not even bound by his own narrative cus even when he fought Eldest who scales to the likes of TOAA he still manages to overpower her. Hulk has surpassed imagination on multiple levels over and over again before even this current run and this is all 616. He scales above the Cross Roads which is Infinite Dimensions, He scales above the Dark Dimension which is filled with Infinite sized Universes and other Dimensions, He scales above Nightmare's Realm which scales above Imagination, He scales above the Nexus of All Realities which is literally verbatim All of Marvel's existence across Infinite Stories, idea's and so on. Hulk has ascended past all of this and now in his base he is unbound. "Godzilla can just leave the story and beat up the writer/editor" So? Dr Strange can just say one spell that world kill the reader and destroy the comic and said reader is you or me the book refers to and the spell isn't directed at the reader but rather his opponent. She-Hulk from her sensational days can rip the comic she's in and escape to fight her editors or the reader. Deadpool can also escape the main Marvel continuity and invade the company and take out the publishers and this was old school Marvel from the 70s to the 90s which Current Marvel far surpasses. And Hulk scales above that so Godzilla's cooked while even the strongest Godzilla on a consistent basis doesn't show anywhere near these insane levels. Unless you ignore all context for Godzilla and just mix and blend all his feats from every single version of him and wank them as high as possible only then do you get him at high Outer and beyond. You have to be really picky with Godzilla to get him that high but all I have to do for Hulk is just pick his main canon 616 and he's already done all the same stuff all those Godzilla's have and more so at the end of the day Hulk in his base from the main 616 comics is far beyond any version of Godzilla with proper scaling.
@@DFGHulkOfficialI’m not gonna read all this horribly written shit there’s no spacing or structure at all just lazy text walls and a bunch of nonsense.
But no you’re wrong, The Mother of Horrors isn’t on par with The One Above All nothing says that, the Eldest isn’t close either that isn’t stated at all, Hulk is not on the level tier cuz we saw in the last arc if he let’s The One Below All in it would kill Hulk and Bruce then take their corpse to use as a vessel which is likely what the Mother of Horrors plans to do but I need to read it again to double check since you can’t be bothered to quote shit yet I know most of what you said there was incorrect or flawed cuz I read most of it and I talk to my friend TheChadChamp who’s the best Hulk scaler around and has a channel where he talks about it, he cleared shit up and debunked this shit.
Maybe you should check him out and talk to him, he’s chill and willing to discuss it.
And you’re clearly ignorant on Godzilla scaling, Godzilla in Hell is far stronger than you know and he can easily challenge the Hulk.
I suggest you watch videos by King of Godzilla a friend of mine who’s one of the best at Godzilla he made GiH videos tho he did not go over everything cuz he can get it higher and will update it later, yet it will give you an idea.
If theyre ginna use composite versions of the character like they mostly do....Sweet baby jesus a composite godzilla would be absolutely unstoppable
Byt yeah tbh Hulk is more likely to lose consdiering his track record on Death Battle
The fight is gonna be cool though at least
For my actual thoughts of who wins disregarding what death battle generally does, I’d say come sorting the composting gods who get into the infinite power rangers so I’m siding with Godzilla.
If you watch Hulk VS Godzilla DEATH BATTLE Cast, Liam Swan doesn't see Godzilla winning. He seems to see Hulk winning.
Here's why:
1. Hulk is immortal.
2. Hulk is stronger and faster than Godzilla.
3. Hulk can absorb Godzilla's Atomic Breath because its radiation.
4. Hulk is stronger than Thor, and is above the Sentry.
5. God-demon from Godzilla In Hell is nothing compared to The One Below All and The One Above All.
Immortality literally doesn’t scale you anywhere crossverse
He’s not stronger and he’s barely faster
Godzilla’s atomic breath is pure energy
Godzilla outscales both Thor and Sentry
God Mountain scales above IDW which includes marvel itself, and Godzilla one-shot him and absorbed his powers
If it’s Comp vs Comp, Godzilla mauls horrendously. Comics vs Comics, hulk only due to him having more Hax. Movie vs movie, Godzilla stomps (literally). Games vs Games, Godzilla again absolutely mauls.
@@hakeeemquaviantavius Fish already debunked the IDW scaling in this video
@@HydragonofDeath faulty and doesn’t address anything major. It’s easy to argue against it since everything against IDW godzilla is just “erm no proof” when there is
@@HydragonofDeath js plus he literally just says “GiH lost the godly amp” when it’s been stated multiple times that he kept the amp and became god, and also he ignores the other IDW Godzillas (mighty morphin, rage across time, rulers of earth)
@@HydragonofDeath you can’t call a 13 second statement a “debunk” when he shows no proof and doesn’t talk about it for the rest of the video.
I agree with what you say!!, but what I think is important is to have fun with the episode. Which is (what I feel it is ) technically the point of this series, to entertain the audience and have a fun time.
Agree, this is all in good fun
Expect when they don’t do their research and say stupid shit that’s incorrect or just downplays characters for stupid reasons or due to sheer ignorance, or cuz they buy some stupid line of reasoning or flawed feat and etc.
Like Omniman vs Bardock I loved that one in almost every aspect until we got to the result where they dropped the ball on the most obvious death battle and made up some bullshit to make Omniman win. That feat was only ever calculated that high once and all other versions are massively lower consistently so they didn’t double check their numbers or check around to make sure they got it right, not to mention it is not consistent feats wise and calcs wise or narratively consistent since they struggled to bust a large planet and would die alone without the Infinity Gun which is something Nolan feared could kill him and it busts stars only by destabilizing it but sure he’s large Star level as if that fucked makes sense. Wank his speed cuz guides explain they make warp gates to go long distances but It doesn’t matter as much. Bardock could of been higher than they said and could of still won against wanked Omniman if we high ball with the anime, if we are fair and stick to consistency he is still higher, there’s no way he should of lost if they were not incompetent morons that somehow fumbled a easy win for Bardock.
It made it hard to enjoy even talking about the match up after the results cuz of how stupid and wrong it was, I am more calm now yer you see I am still pissed when I talk about it cuz it was bad. And I think it’s understandable to be annoyed when people mess up basic scaling and can’t double check their sources to get it right.
If they have Godzilla not even universal even when using Showa, Heisei, Ultima, and GiH then it would be wrong and bad objectively so excuse me if I don’t want them to be stupid and actually put in effort to get it at least a bit accurate to the point it isn’t lazy dumb shit.
I’m not looking forward to this fight how come hulk gets to be in deathbattle 3 times now while wolverine doesn’t even get the chance to return yet
Death Battle Coming in 2025!!!!
Hulk vs Godzilla in Hell
Who will win?
King of the monsters ftw
Godzilla naturally looses anyways. Humans kill Ultima's True form. So Godzilla is actually Below Average Human level at peak.
Camon men I'm a huge fan of Godzilla and yet I know that (even if whe count hell Godzilla) when Hulk uses TOBA he instantly wins, it's not even a fight and that's boring
This is just ignorance and stupidity.
Hulk can’t use TOBA, you clearly didn’t read the fucken comic right, TOBA killed Bruce and the Hulk then used their corpse as a vessel for it so it can have a fitting avatar in the multiverse so it isn’t a form it is not even Hulk cuz TOBA killed him.
?? Hulk can’t “use” ToBA dude. Toba hulk isn’t even a hulk to begin with. It’s just Toba taking over the appearance of hulk. Godzilla wipes hard
@hakeeemquaviantavius It's TOBA using Hulk's corpse, I think they are going to count It and put TOBA as the winner since it's Death Battle they have already done things like that (when I said using TOBA I meant using the comic and the feats)
@@allotiranog6074 That would be stupid and lame, people would hate it, no one wants that lame ass evil God win. They would get shit from both sides cuz no one wins so it’s an L.
Hulk only fought an Avatar or manifestation of TOBA it was stronger than Mephisto but nothing too ridiculous.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls Liam counted TOBA Hulk in Death Battle cast that's the problem. But if that gets debunked and they don't count it maybe Godzilla wins
Hulk solos
I hope you end up being wrong...
Me too.
Been a while since I heard from ya, and yeah, Hulk is like Superman in a way of the story needs them to be strong as needing to be.
Godzilla wins nuff said