Future Shock invented the WASD+ mouse standard, it's a quasi-total 3D fps before Quake, and it's still unknown by a lots of players. Incredible isn't it ?
Aristoxène D'agônie Because it takes much more than a control scheme and movie license to create a good game. Bethesda’s games were well advertised back then, but weren’t that good and therefore mostly ignored. Skynet was very nice though, but its competitors were Quake and Duke3D.
@@chemergency Actually the first FPS with vehicles (Snowmobile, also you were on Skiis for parts, rode a cable car and used a Hang Glider) was Midwinter, released in 1989. It even predates The Terminator from Bethesda (1990) that also had vehicles (and basically was a FPS version of GTA years before GTA was a thing)
@@ChaseMC215 Which is how easy it was to fuck it up. Step One: burn your bridges with the people who made the original games (New Vegas and the Obsidian bonus pay debacle).
@@petercampi2840 Well, now Obsidian is a shell of its former selves, so RIP the hopes of the games becoming good without being resurrected in a spiritual successor.
Fallout 4 was pretty ok, fallout 76 is at least decent in current state. Its a pain in the ass on consoles (like all bethesda games) but i dont see where they ruined anything.
Strange that there is not a modern Terminator fps, since the franchise is a perfect fit to make a fps game out of it. An idea would be to play as resistance soldier or as a bloody Terminator. Such a game cannot break the overall story line since all new Terminator movies pretty much invalidate old story lines as well.
gast128 Damn Right We Need A New Terminator Game That Plays a lot like Tom Clancys Ghost Recon. Play as Both Skynet n Resistance Fighters Complete With working Vehicles land Air n Sea Leveling Up Systems Customisations etc.
gast128 I actually really like kid homefront the revolution review where he said it felt like a terminator game. I think with a bit more company, they could make a decent terminator game.
I've been playing it recently and it really was awesome for its time. It's a little on the frustrating side, but I think that gives some idea of how difficult it would be to actually fight against an army of machines.
@@PistonAvatarGuy I played it on medium difficulty and it was ok. Hands down. One of the best fps I've played. it was groundbreaking game at the time when it was released. Driving a car and flying a plane in a fps game that was outstanding. The problem was probably the fact the resolution sucked and it was the time when people were amazed by new graphics. It was changing really fast. For instance Quake's graphics lasted much longer than Future Shocks. The issues I had - I got often lost and sometimes it was not exactly clear how to do things. The game needed a map and some tutorial of what was possible to do. When driving the car the y mouse axis is inverted and it is just weird and can't be changed...
@@kkarx Yeah, you have to pay close attention to the briefings and the tips that you get in the game in order to find your way quickly. I actually love to just explore in games and there's quite a bit to explore in Future Shock, so I'd just wander around sometimes before even trying to complete an objective. There is one level that has a glitch that I couldn't get past (it was the level with the Bishop character), even patching the game didn't fix it for me. - SkyNET has an option which allows you to run Future Shock though it (you'll need the Future Shock ISO, IIRC), it allows for higher resolution graphics and it fixes the mouse axis issue when driving the car. There's also an unofficial patch for SkyNET which fixes some issues. The patch allows you to make the night sky black again in Future Shock, which was a huge plus for me.
@@PistonAvatarGuy I know about the patches but I'm too stupid to install them. I tried, it didn't work. I don't have future shock iso. I downloaded some 14 MB version with Dos Box that does not require installation. I've read you could just copy Future Shock files into some Skynet folder but it did not work either for me.
Future Shock was a suprisingly progressive FPS game for 1995 with it's full 3D graphics, mouse look, vehicle usage, dynamic lighting, high res VESA graphics and other things. Too bad Bethesda abandoned the franchise.
Yet another great review. Looking at these reviews brings back some great memories. I remember playing future shock with couple of friends in a lan matches. It was great fun with all those different types of vehicles and weapons. However one thing that I remember most in that game is something that you forgot to mention. There was some odd things going on with the game engine sometimes. You could get stuck just by walking in the wrong place and after couple of seconds spontaniously die. That was annoying as hell and haven't seen anything like that in another game to this day.
The camo is pretty easy to explain in Future Shock: pretty much every modern military uniform is IR protected meaning they don't shine brightly when looked at with night vision technology which would most likely include Terminator's eyes.
I remember reading an article about Future Shock, it was actually written in assembler which was a lot of hard work for its time, the demo actually ran quite well on my old 486 too.
In defense of why they're wearing camo, it is Urban Camo which isn't really useful anyway. I think it was just used as a way to symbolize that they have a uniform.
Skynet also had MP, and was a lot of fun doing it too. There was also a game before 2029, that was a real blocky polygon style game, but it was almost open world, where you played Kyle or the Terminator.
Terminator: Resistance is actually really fun. It's well worth the $40..You can definitely tell that the people who worked on the game are fans of the Terminatior Franchise..
Terminator 2029 was my first ever PC game. It was very difficult as a child. I was like 6 years old. I would watch my dad beat the game every once in a while.
So weird. As a huge Terminator fan and huge FPS fan, I am intimately familiar with Future Shock but have never heard of Terminator 2029 until today. Also don't think I've heard of Rampage, which kinda looks like the Jaguar Alien vs. Predator, and which apparently features the Star Wars interrogation droid.
I think only 3 people worked on Terminator Ramage. And they where working on the engine as they went, so in the early stages, furniture is represented by sprites, but in the later levels they are 3D objects. 😆
I remember playing Future Shock and Skynet on a massive Windows 95 Packard Bell PC The games were awesome, and had massive expansive levels with a real but the sound was utterly atrocious and bugged out constantly. As an early Terminator game goes, it was really decent.
This why I subscribed to you chanel. Bring back so much good ol memories, and your point of vue is generaly very close to mine. I loved playing Skynet back in the days, as you said, it feel like a true Terminator game.
loved robocop vs terminator.remember having a megadrive magazine interviewing the developers and they were saying how they actually delayed the game,just so they could ramp up the gore on the kill animations.truly epic
I often think back at games and remember them as better (or at least better-looking) than they actually are. It seems Future Shock is one of the exceptions. It still looks pretty damn good for its time. Sharp textures and weapon models, especially.
Todays Bethesda? No way, they would fuck it up with some bullshit story written by a single person and with the addition of paid mods aka: creation club.
its a shame not one word was mentioned about Skynet´s multiplayer-mode, since it was awesome - letting you play as a terminator, with a fully infrared look that even tracked targets for you. they even included a vechile-section, that let you rain down doom in the form of square-rockets from a Hunter/killer.
I remember looking at Skynet at Kmart everytime I would go there, and I really wanted to buy it but I wasn't sure if my computer could handle the EXTREEEEM 3D so I didn't want to waste $60
Future Shock scared the shit out of me as a kid. There's just something menacing about the way the machines move in the game that creeped me out back then as well as the fact that it's always night. Don't think I ever finished it but had a lot of fun with it anyway. Think I got lost and gave up eventually.
I had (or might still have) the 2029 game on CD...nice to hear that its sorta rare. It played alright but it was tedious..I burned out at the last level. Good to see all these great games that came after it..thanks for posting.
Excellent reviews! I bought all of these games when they first came out At the time I enjoyed them all but Future Shock and Skynet are still great games
Nice review. Just played Terminator Future Shock with SkyNet DLC, and it's awsome! But i have a problem. There is option to change resolution from 320x240 to 640x480 to make image look cleaner, but if i do that, then game starts to slowdown a bit, and it works on 45 - 50 FPS instead of stable 60. Is there any way to solve this? I'm using original game with DosBox.
Future Shock is pretty damn impressive looking for 1995. It's surprising it didn't catch on. I guess that and Skynet were eclipsed by the shadow of Quake like many games of the time.
I started to think a Terminator game, 2v5 where 2 players are terminators who are hunting the 5 other players. The 5 humans could fight back but since terminators take a lot of punishment they would have to trick them somehow with traps to wear them down and eventually coordinate a team attack to take them down.
My friend used to have a Terminator sidescroller on the Master System, which we thought was pretty good at the time. But that may be the rose-tinted spectacles talking. It roughly followed the plot of the first film - one near-invincible Terminator was chasing you, and you could only "stun" him to get away.
The Terminator franchise needs a game like what the Arkham series did for Batman and Alien: Isolation did for Alien. In other words, It needs a revitalization. The Future War, in the Terminator fiction, is ripe for storytelling opportunities for games. I could easily imagine an awesome Half-Life type Terminator game or a Fallout-type Terminator game; with optional vr functionality that could be turned on or off via the in-game menus. Hopefully, the metaphorical stars will eventually align, so we could have a truly outstanding Terminator game worthy of the Terminator moniker.
I think you missed one: The Terminator made in 1990 by Bethesda... I played it and although not great, it's interesting... You can play Kyle trying to keep Sarah safe or The Terminator trying to hunt and kill Sarah... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Terminator_video_games#The_Terminator_.28DOS.29 Rampage is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. I love mazes, the weapons and graphics look great and more realistic than anything at the time IMO but the action needs work... Kinda like it has the same hit and miss percentages as Elder Scrolls Arena but that's an RPG! O_O Nice mention of the Lord Karnage himself, BTW. :) -Mad Wolf
Future Shock was a great game at the time, I remember, the downside was the hardware requirements. Even a Pentium 90 and decent videocard (which I had) wasn't enough, you really needed a Pentium 120 and (specifically) a Matrox Millennium (then the high-end graphics card) to play it properly with full-on graphics. IMHO this game, and Looking Glass's fantastic Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri, were both great DOS games that suffered from the fact that they were overlooked and under-sung as a result of the great, shiny 3-d card/Voodoo/Quake phenomenon.
Jesus, I just played Future Shock. That's the hardest FPS I've ever seen. Halfway through the first level I put it down to Easy, then I still died about 50 more times and eventually completed the first level by using Save every time I killed an enemy or moved to a different room. Even if you avoid being shot, you still die because the enemies themselves explode when you kill them, and take off health because they're always right next to you. Some of the enemies are the size of a bird and they fly around you and into you. Some are flying bombs and the first you even know about them is hearing an exploding sound effect and seeing your health go down. Most enemies you can't even see because the resolution is so low (in the original version) and they share the same colour palette as the background. About 4 times I died just because the engine decided I got my foot stuck on a chair or something, the health bar just went from 100% to 0% in two seconds. Absolutely brutal game.
Gggmanlives Yeah I was, but after posting that I installed SkyNET which as you know lets you play Future Shock in SkyNETs updated engine, and it was like a different game. Much more playable. I could see the enemies, the movement was nicer, and I don't know what else they changed but I didn't find it as brutal. I did still get several instant "mission failed" going from 100 to 0% health though, for things like dropping down a 2 foot slope or tripping over a small object. I assume it's not supposed to do that.
I used to play skynet and future shock back in the day. Easter egg, if you shoot the moon it will say Ouch! in the top left of the screen. Shoot it enough and it falls from the sky.
It can't be proven, since the '90s 3D Realms forums posts seem to be completely gone, but I believe Future Shock is the main reason Duke Nukem 3D has slopes. The early build did not have them, and I remember people asking for them after the FS demo came out, and George (and Ken Silverman) agreed. Another connection: before Skynet was released, the designers said, "We have a modeled submarine in the game, unlike that toilet paper tube submarine in Duke Nukem." :O
Actually the first game in the Terminator series is The Terminator, released in 1990 for the PC and is based on the first movie. It's also an FPS, just to let you know.
Completely agree with you on the difficulty bet the game on hard without putting a single point into toughness, went for the pseudo stealth guns blazing route and worked perfectly
Hey Gggman, I was wondering if you know what that game is at 0:19 . I tried searching for it like the Terminator Arcade game but I came up with nothing.
I'm addicted to these reviews. things like artificial difficulty, line of sight and object based projectiles are never talked about anywhere else. would like to see a 7th guest review. I never could get it to install way back. pc gaming was such a crap shot back then
I'm surprised you didn't cover Bethesda's first Terminator FPS called quite simply The Terminator, released in 1990. It looks absolutely terrible, but also seems ludicrously ambitious. Seems to be an FPS with RPG elements, an open world and a GTA-ish ability to drive around in vehicles. I'd love it if you could cover it.
Are Terminator Future Shock and Skynet abandonware? 'Cause I have no idea where to buy them, and I've seen them on some Abandonware sites, but those can be shifty.
+Gamer Of Rock Legally, there's no such thing as abandonware. Copyrights now last 70-90 years after the death of the author, so unless they have specifically placed their work in the public domain, it's still owned by someone. In this case, Bethesda. Large software companies rarely release their games for free. The fact that they haven't sold or even supported these games in more than a decade makes no legal difference. It's still illegal to download them. That said, yes you can find them on various abandonware sites and you're not likely to get in trouble for downloading them.
"Abandonware" just means a game that isn't being supporting anymore, it doesn't make it free of legal unless the developers release the game as freeware. Bethesda still owns these games, but that said I'm almost certain you're never going to see a commercial release of them again due to the franchise licensing so pirate away.
What about the game from 1990? Also made by Bethesda. It was loosely based on the first film, you played as either Kyle or The Terminator to protect or kill Sarah Conner, you guided her to safety and killed the machine or you tracked her down through quite a huge chunk of L.A. Stealing cars, running people over, shooting them, getting into police chases, robbing/buying from shops all in your quest to save or doom mankind.
I remember playing a terminator game that took place in the time of the first movie. You had to go in gun shops and buy or rob guns to run from or fight the terminator. It was a pc game. It isn't any of these and is probably older. I've looked for it, but can't remember the name.
I believe it's called "The Terminator" for DOS. Pretty impressive for the time, a full polygonal city to explore, driving cars, etc. But I don't think it qualifies as FPS.
I saw a boxed copy of skynet back in 2013 for about 30usd. I thought it wasn't that rare and figured I would grab it a few months later. Someone ended up buying it shortly after and since then I have never seen another copy go back up for sale. One of my biggest regrets ):
Another Great Review!! But because you seem to have a better idea on downloading roms whats the best place to get them, kinda trying to free up some space here....
you actually missed a game in the series, there's one Terminator game before 2029, released in 1990 and very ambitious, it's a full 3d open world game where you are the terminator
Future Shock invented the WASD+ mouse standard, it's a quasi-total 3D fps before Quake, and it's still unknown by a lots of players. Incredible isn't it ?
Aristoxène D'agônie Because it takes much more than a control scheme and movie license to create a good game.
Bethesda’s games were well advertised back then, but weren’t that good and therefore mostly ignored. Skynet was very nice though, but its competitors were Quake and Duke3D.
Future shock invented it quake popularized it
Not to mention it had fully-interactive, driveable vehicles including aerial vehicles, predating Tribes by 3 years and Goldeneye by 2 years.
It wasn't Future Shock it was Marathon which came several years before. That game also was the first FPS with Mouse Look. So you had WASD and Mouse.
@@chemergency Actually the first FPS with vehicles (Snowmobile, also you were on Skiis for parts, rode a cable car and used a Hang Glider) was Midwinter, released in 1989. It even predates The Terminator from Bethesda (1990) that also had vehicles (and basically was a FPS version of GTA years before GTA was a thing)
You missed the most important thing about future shock and skynet.. you can kill the moon.
Shoot or lead pipe it.
It says ouch allot, then dies.
When you dropped Mark from CGR in there, I lost it. That was funny.
Snotnarok instant like
"Bethesda went on to ruin Fallout...just kidding!" Ohhhhh how prophetic...
Yeah, Fallout wasn't theirs to begin with.
@@ChaseMC215 Which is how easy it was to fuck it up.
Step One: burn your bridges with the people who made the original games (New Vegas and the Obsidian bonus pay debacle).
Fallout was under Black Isle until Bethesda showed up and fucked them .
@@petercampi2840 Well, now Obsidian is a shell of its former selves, so RIP the hopes of the games becoming good without being resurrected in a spiritual successor.
Fallout 4 was pretty ok, fallout 76 is at least decent in current state. Its a pain in the ass on consoles (like all bethesda games) but i dont see where they ruined anything.
Strange that there is not a modern Terminator fps, since the franchise is a perfect fit to make a fps game out of it. An idea would be to play as resistance soldier or as a bloody Terminator. Such a game cannot break the overall story line since all new Terminator movies pretty much invalidate old story lines as well.
gast128 Damn Right We Need A New Terminator Game That Plays a lot like Tom Clancys Ghost Recon. Play as Both Skynet n Resistance Fighters Complete With working Vehicles land Air n Sea Leveling Up Systems Customisations etc.
Strangely enough. I remember a third person Terminator Game which i thought was actually really good
@@thomasfernandez6580 terminator salvation perhaps?
gast128 I actually really like kid homefront the revolution review where he said it felt like a terminator game. I think with a bit more company, they could make a decent terminator game.
@@antonhanley um T3 for PS2 is modern enough and their was another one
You got me twice with that Bethesda shit
Future Shock is basically everything that I had wanted to see in a Terminator movie, it's unfortunate that we got a bunch of garbage instead.
The first two Terminator movies were amazing, the third one wasn't bad, but everything after was complete crap
That "super suit" at 2:18 looks like Robocop for the most part, with a hint of Star Wars.
These aren't the only games for PC. What about Terminator from 1990? That was a sandbox crime game that came before GTA.
Ah, Future Shock. It was everything I ever wanted in a Terminator game!
I've been playing it recently and it really was awesome for its time. It's a little on the frustrating side, but I think that gives some idea of how difficult it would be to actually fight against an army of machines.
I can say that it's the best Terminator game out there, Terminator 2 The Arcade Game was great too
@@PistonAvatarGuy I played it on medium difficulty and it was ok. Hands down. One of the best fps I've played. it was groundbreaking game at the time when it was released. Driving a car and flying a plane in a fps game that was outstanding. The problem was probably the fact the resolution sucked and it was the time when people were amazed by new graphics. It was changing really fast. For instance Quake's graphics lasted much longer than Future Shocks. The issues I had - I got often lost and sometimes it was not exactly clear how to do things. The game needed a map and some tutorial of what was possible to do. When driving the car the y mouse axis is inverted and it is just weird and can't be changed...
@@kkarx Yeah, you have to pay close attention to the briefings and the tips that you get in the game in order to find your way quickly. I actually love to just explore in games and there's quite a bit to explore in Future Shock, so I'd just wander around sometimes before even trying to complete an objective. There is one level that has a glitch that I couldn't get past (it was the level with the Bishop character), even patching the game didn't fix it for me.
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SkyNET has an option which allows you to run Future Shock though it (you'll need the Future Shock ISO, IIRC), it allows for higher resolution graphics and it fixes the mouse axis issue when driving the car. There's also an unofficial patch for SkyNET which fixes some issues. The patch allows you to make the night sky black again in Future Shock, which was a huge plus for me.
@@PistonAvatarGuy I know about the patches but I'm too stupid to install them. I tried, it didn't work. I don't have future shock iso. I downloaded some 14 MB version with Dos Box that does not require installation. I've read you could just copy Future Shock files into some Skynet folder but it did not work either for me.
Future Shock was a suprisingly progressive FPS game for 1995 with it's full 3D graphics, mouse look, vehicle usage, dynamic lighting, high res VESA graphics and other things. Too bad Bethesda abandoned the franchise.
It used sprites too
Those last word were absolute gold
It's not like they don't need it b ut they simply don't deserve it.
I loved playing the Terminator 2029 game when I was a kid! Seeing the cut scenes again made me feel like I just played it yesterday.
Yet another great review. Looking at these reviews brings back some great memories. I remember playing future shock with couple of friends in a lan matches. It was great fun with all those different types of vehicles and weapons. However one thing that I remember most in that game is something that you forgot to mention. There was some odd things going on with the game engine sometimes. You could get stuck just by walking in the wrong place and after couple of seconds spontaniously die. That was annoying as hell and haven't seen anything like that in another game to this day.
The original Future Shock didn't have LAN/Network play. I suspect you were playing SkyNET (the sequel) which added this feature.
Since Bethesda said they are working on 2 new projects before TES6 i am fucking hoping 1 of them is Terminator FPS game.
I was hoping that too. Skynet and Future Shock did an awesome job of portraying post-apocalyptic scenery well before Fallout 3 perfected it.
"I was unfortunate enough to own the Sega Genesis port"
I owned the _Gameboy_ version. I didn't even know it was on other consoles until years later.
The camo is pretty easy to explain in Future Shock: pretty much every modern military uniform is IR protected meaning they don't shine brightly when looked at with night vision technology which would most likely include Terminator's eyes.
I remember reading an article about Future Shock, it was actually written in assembler which was a lot of hard work for its time, the demo actually ran quite well on my old 486 too.
In defense of why they're wearing camo, it is Urban Camo which isn't really useful anyway. I think it was just used as a way to symbolize that they have a uniform.
Tim Peters It is not that hard to block IR emissions (for example, with a sheet of glass) and then you are back to optical detection.
>not even one Toddposter
DISAPPOINTED
Skynet also had MP, and was a lot of fun doing it too. There was also a game before 2029, that was a real blocky polygon style game, but it was almost open world, where you played Kyle or the Terminator.
Another great video! Brought back alot of memories with skynet as a kid.
Fun Fact: The guy who plays Kyle Reece in the SkyNET briefing videos is the same voice actor who plays J.C in SiN.
Terminator: Resistance looks a lot similar to this game
Just done playing the game and its awesome i feelt future shock vibes from this game :)
Terminator: Resistance is actually really fun. It's well worth the $40..You can definitely tell that the people who worked on the game are fans of the Terminatior Franchise..
Terminator 2029 was my first ever PC game. It was very difficult as a child. I was like 6 years old. I would watch my dad beat the game every once in a while.
So weird. As a huge Terminator fan and huge FPS fan, I am intimately familiar with Future Shock but have never heard of Terminator 2029 until today. Also don't think I've heard of Rampage, which kinda looks like the Jaguar Alien vs. Predator, and which apparently features the Star Wars interrogation droid.
I think only 3 people worked on Terminator Ramage. And they where working on the engine as they went, so in the early stages, furniture is represented by sprites, but in the later levels they are 3D objects. 😆
I remember playing Future Shock and Skynet on a massive Windows 95 Packard Bell PC The games were awesome, and had massive expansive levels with a real but the sound was utterly atrocious and bugged out constantly. As an early Terminator game goes, it was really decent.
I love watching a video that's 10 years old that feels like it could have been released last week. Nice review!
This why I subscribed to you chanel.
Bring back so much good ol memories, and your point of vue is generaly very close to mine.
I loved playing Skynet back in the days, as you said, it feel like a true Terminator game.
Shots fired at CGR 😂
loved robocop vs terminator.remember having a megadrive magazine interviewing the developers and they were saying how they actually delayed the game,just so they could ramp up the gore on the kill animations.truly epic
I often think back at games and remember them as better (or at least better-looking) than they actually are. It seems Future Shock is one of the exceptions. It still looks pretty damn good for its time. Sharp textures and weapon models, especially.
i just want Bethesda to make another Terminator game, make it much like Fallout.. how fucking great would that be :D
KissingZombie's Channel too great maybe? :DD
Yes, this would be amazing. They just need to implement (good) vehicle combat.
Todays Bethesda? No way, they would fuck it up with some bullshit story written by a single person and with the addition of paid mods aka: creation club.
maybe a fallout dlc including humanoid robots
Oh my goodness I had forgotten about these games!
Played the hell out of Future Shock and Skynet in the '90s...those FMVs though LMAO
As a big terminator fan, I had zero idea these existed til now.
its a shame not one word was mentioned about Skynet´s multiplayer-mode, since it was awesome - letting you play as a terminator, with a fully infrared look that even tracked targets for you. they even included a vechile-section, that let you rain down doom in the form of square-rockets from a Hunter/killer.
Finally we got our Future shock remake ! Its called Terminator Resistance !!
I remember looking at Skynet at Kmart everytime I would go there, and I really wanted to buy it but I wasn't sure if my computer could handle the EXTREEEEM 3D so I didn't want to waste $60
Future Shock scared the shit out of me as a kid. There's just something menacing about the way the machines move in the game that creeped me out back then as well as the fact that it's always night. Don't think I ever finished it but had a lot of fun with it anyway. Think I got lost and gave up eventually.
another thing i liked about Skynet and Future Shock was all the Aliens refferences in gear, weapons and items
I had (or might still have) the 2029 game on CD...nice to hear that its sorta rare. It played alright but it was tedious..I burned out at the last level. Good to see all these great games that came after it..thanks for posting.
Excellent reviews!
I bought all of these games when they first came out
At the time I enjoyed them all but Future Shock and Skynet are still great games
Nice review. Just played Terminator Future Shock with SkyNet DLC, and it's awsome! But i have a problem. There is option to change resolution from 320x240 to 640x480 to make image look cleaner, but if i do that, then game starts to slowdown a bit, and it works on 45 - 50 FPS instead of stable 60. Is there any way to solve this? I'm using original game with DosBox.
Great video man and thanks for an enlightenment in terms of "Terminator" retro - fpp - games ! 👍😉
Holy shit! Future Shock looks outstanding for 1995! I should consider tracking down a copy of Skynet!
Future Shock is pretty damn impressive looking for 1995. It's surprising it didn't catch on. I guess that and Skynet were eclipsed by the shadow of Quake like many games of the time.
I started to think a Terminator game, 2v5 where 2 players are terminators who are hunting the 5 other players. The 5 humans could fight back but since terminators take a lot of punishment they would have to trick them somehow with traps to wear them down and eventually coordinate a team attack to take them down.
Oh and it should be possible to break the terminators apart but as long as the head is intact they could still attack you.
My friend used to have a Terminator sidescroller on the Master System, which we thought was pretty good at the time. But that may be the rose-tinted spectacles talking. It roughly followed the plot of the first film - one near-invincible Terminator was chasing you, and you could only "stun" him to get away.
The Terminator franchise needs a game like what the Arkham series did for Batman and Alien: Isolation did for Alien.
In other words, It needs a revitalization.
The Future War, in the Terminator fiction, is ripe for storytelling opportunities for games. I could easily imagine an awesome Half-Life type Terminator game or a Fallout-type Terminator game; with optional vr functionality that could be turned on or off via the in-game menus.
Hopefully, the metaphorical stars will eventually align, so we could have a truly outstanding Terminator game worthy of the Terminator moniker.
I think you missed one: The Terminator made in 1990 by Bethesda... I played it and although not great, it's interesting... You can play Kyle trying to keep Sarah safe or The Terminator trying to hunt and kill Sarah...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Terminator_video_games#The_Terminator_.28DOS.29
Rampage is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. I love mazes, the weapons and graphics look great and more realistic than anything at the time IMO but the action needs work... Kinda like it has the same hit and miss percentages as Elder Scrolls Arena but that's an RPG! O_O
Nice mention of the Lord Karnage himself, BTW. :)
-Mad Wolf
Future Shock was a great game at the time, I remember, the downside was the hardware requirements. Even a Pentium 90 and decent videocard (which I had) wasn't enough, you really needed a Pentium 120 and (specifically) a Matrox Millennium (then the high-end graphics card) to play it properly with full-on graphics. IMHO this game, and Looking Glass's fantastic Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri, were both great DOS games that suffered from the fact that they were overlooked and under-sung as a result of the great, shiny 3-d card/Voodoo/Quake phenomenon.
They were 3D games like Quake but too bad Future Shock and Skynet didn't get a 3Dfx Glide API makeover that would have been great.
Love Future Shock and SkyNET, but I'm too easy to scare, and those floating mines make me paranoid.
Jesus, I just played Future Shock. That's the hardest FPS I've ever seen.
Halfway through the first level I put it down to Easy, then I still died about 50 more times and eventually completed the first level by using Save every time I killed an enemy or moved to a different room. Even if you avoid being shot, you still die because the enemies themselves explode when you kill them, and take off health because they're always right next to you. Some of the enemies are the size of a bird and they fly around you and into you. Some are flying bombs and the first you even know about them is hearing an exploding sound effect and seeing your health go down. Most enemies you can't even see because the resolution is so low (in the original version) and they share the same colour palette as the background.
About 4 times I died just because the engine decided I got my foot stuck on a chair or something, the health bar just went from 100% to 0% in two seconds. Absolutely brutal game.
googleboughtmee I didn't have that much trouble. Are you playing in Dosbox?
Gggmanlives Yeah I was, but after posting that I installed SkyNET which as you know lets you play Future Shock in SkyNETs updated engine, and it was like a different game. Much more playable. I could see the enemies, the movement was nicer, and I don't know what else they changed but I didn't find it as brutal.
I did still get several instant "mission failed" going from 100 to 0% health though, for things like dropping down a 2 foot slope or tripping over a small object. I assume it's not supposed to do that.
FS has cheats.
Your jokes about fallout and elder scrolls being bad actually had me on edge... Very clever sonny Jim
I used to play skynet and future shock back in the day. Easter egg, if you shoot the moon it will say Ouch! in the top left of the screen. Shoot it enough and it falls from the sky.
Hmm, does Rampage and Arena use the same engine? They look very similar.
They probably do, I know for sure that Future Shock and SkyNET use the XnGine tech that powered Daggerfall so it wouldn't be surprising.
Robocop vs Terminator on Genesis is a work of art
Any chance for a review on Operation Flashpoint? I don't see any quality ones on youtube.
Perhaps. I would imagine I'll do it eventually.
Gggmanlives
Would love to see you review the Delta Force games as well! Man, I can't believe we used to think those didn't suck. :P
I need to play this again, one of the games I had a demo for back in the day but could never find a full version in my little outback town
Wow didn't know you watched Classic Game Room…
Jellyman1303 Who doesn't watch CGR?
Only losers!
It's the best!
The crazy thing about Terminator 2029 is that if they'd make it in the modern day, it could actually be REALLY good.
Hahaha, apparently the Tech Noir somehow survived the nuclear bomb! It even still has working lights and glitter balls!
Absolutely love Robocop vs terminator. I still play it sometimes! One of my top mega drive games
great video. pretty funny sense of humor. subbed!
It can't be proven, since the '90s 3D Realms forums posts seem to be completely gone, but I believe Future Shock is the main reason Duke Nukem 3D has slopes. The early build did not have them, and I remember people asking for them after the FS demo came out, and George (and Ken Silverman) agreed. Another connection: before Skynet was released, the designers said, "We have a modeled submarine in the game, unlike that toilet paper tube submarine in Duke Nukem." :O
Actually the first game in the Terminator series is The Terminator, released in 1990 for the PC and is based on the first movie. It's also an FPS, just to let you know.
Also made by Bethesda.
And it was one of the first open world games, too. GTA III ripped off The Terminator.
Completely agree with you on the difficulty bet the game on hard without putting a single point into toughness, went for the pseudo stealth guns blazing route and worked perfectly
I'm getting to know ur videos and low and behold this had another mark impression bravo. It was funny
I didn't know there were terminator games before Future Shock and Skynet. Now I know why. ;-)
really rumbled my jimjams for a moment there because your comment on fallout and TES lol
Terminator 2029 got those amazing, low framerate, hand drawn animations modern games sadly lack.
How did you run future shock through skynet to get a higher resolution on dosbox? What did you do?
Hey Gggman, I was wondering if you know what that game is at 0:19 . I tried searching for it like the Terminator Arcade game but I came up with nothing.
It was called T2 Judgement Day, for PC. It was a horrible game fyi.
I saw it on the Amiga. It doesn't look that great to my eyes either.
I played Future Shock. And I didn't even remember till I saw your video ^^
I've tried running both SkyNET, and Future Shock in 640x480, and it turned the games into slideshows. How do you get them running so smoothly?
Awesome rewievs! Keep them coming!
I remember playing Terminator 2 on Mega Drive with the Menacer. I was 10 and it was badasss!
Terminator Rampage is one of my favorite games.
I'm addicted to these reviews. things like artificial difficulty, line of sight and object based projectiles are never talked about anywhere else. would like to see a 7th guest review. I never could get it to install way back. pc gaming was such a crap shot back then
Hahaha, love the CGR impression xD
I'm surprised you didn't cover Bethesda's first Terminator FPS called quite simply The Terminator, released in 1990. It looks absolutely terrible, but also seems ludicrously ambitious. Seems to be an FPS with RPG elements, an open world and a GTA-ish ability to drive around in vehicles. I'd love it if you could cover it.
Dawn of Fate was one I played a lot as a kid. Good memories
Are Terminator Future Shock and Skynet abandonware? 'Cause I have no idea where to buy them, and I've seen them on some Abandonware sites, but those can be shifty.
Gamer Of Rock I'm not sure. There's no DRM copies of them I know that much.
Gggmanlives Ok, thank you!
+Gamer Of Rock Legally, there's no such thing as abandonware. Copyrights now last 70-90 years after the death of the author, so unless they have specifically placed their work in the public domain, it's still owned by someone. In this case, Bethesda. Large software companies rarely release their games for free.
The fact that they haven't sold or even supported these games in more than a decade makes no legal difference. It's still illegal to download them.
That said, yes you can find them on various abandonware sites and you're not likely to get in trouble for downloading them.
"Abandonware" just means a game that isn't being supporting anymore, it doesn't make it free of legal unless the developers release the game as freeware. Bethesda still owns these games, but that said I'm almost certain you're never going to see a commercial release of them again due to the franchise licensing so pirate away.
Minor point - Skynet didn't come with FutureShock bundled. If you already had FutureShock, it just patched the graphics to SVGA.
Where can I watch the first scene from of humans versing machines battle!??
2:19 this is reminiscent of goddamn mandalorian armor of old republic times, when mandalor was so badass they (almost) took over the galaxy
Your videos are awesome! :) I have a question, will you ever do a Sacrifice (2000) from Shiny entertainment?
SkyNet was all about the multiplayer and oh boy what a fun time it was..
What about the game from 1990? Also made by Bethesda. It was loosely based on the first film, you played as either Kyle or The Terminator to protect or kill Sarah Conner, you guided her to safety and killed the machine or you tracked her down through quite a huge chunk of L.A. Stealing cars, running people over, shooting them, getting into police chases, robbing/buying from shops all in your quest to save or doom mankind.
I remember playing a terminator game that took place in the time of the first movie. You had to go in gun shops and buy or rob guns to run from or fight the terminator. It was a pc game. It isn't any of these and is probably older. I've looked for it, but can't remember the name.
I believe it's called "The Terminator" for DOS. Pretty impressive for the time, a full polygonal city to explore, driving cars, etc. But I don't think it qualifies as FPS.
I saw a boxed copy of skynet back in 2013 for about 30usd. I thought it wasn't that rare and figured I would grab it a few months later.
Someone ended up buying it shortly after and since then I have never seen another copy go back up for sale. One of my biggest regrets ):
future shock and skynet is fucking brutaly hard and right now i am thinking on the borg vs the terminators.
Another Great Review!!
But because you seem to have a better idea on downloading roms whats the best place to get them, kinda trying to free up some space here....
I'm not saying it's Isozone...but it's Isozone
(wink)
Please review *The Terminator: Dawn of Fate* game. It's a good one in my opinion, with a good prequel story, gameplay & a kick ass soundtrack.
future shock t800 sounds gave me chills
I prefer the drawn animated cut scenes FAR more than those bad live action ones
that CGR joke caught me off guard XD
6:23
But we also can enter every building and that was quite something for game of this type and from that time ;)
you actually missed a game in the series, there's one Terminator game before 2029, released in 1990 and very ambitious, it's a full 3d open world game where you are the terminator