Let us know in the comments your thoughts on this video and also ebike battery safety. In this video I'm on the Fafrees F20 Pro as I was testing it today. It's a brilliant folding step thru ebike that goes pretty quick. The review should be up on Tuesday.
It's normally the chargers. Many have voltage and amperage potentiometers that are faulty. The values can change with heat differences in faulty chargers. This means that you can be putting more amps or volts into the battery than the battery can handle. This causes thermal runaway which then start fires. Other causes include water getting in and shorting the batteries or physical damage to cell casings. Before charging, always make sure it is dry, undamaged and check your charger with a multimeter. Before using, always check for water and damage.
What about Car batteries, Electric cars , Scooters , Skateboards ,Drones , Drone batteries infact any lipo battery cells are they all being banned ...so whats the difference ?
I couldn't find any EVs on eBay. Regular car batteries use lead acid technology which is extremely safe. Drone batteries are far smaller so the risk is far lower. I'm a PEV enthusiast but there's no doubt the major corporations have shafted us by using this dangerous tech in our products. We could be using NiMH batteries that are 100% fire proof. By that I mean that they will never start a fire. Never say never but it's like a 1 in a trillion chance if that. They don't have as much range as lithium batteries but we need to get our priorities straight.
northern ireland has required specific insurence to carry "specialist" batteris and aerosol for decades now. red davos might be nanny enough to extend that ban on carraige across teh uk.
Let's go all the way then and ban second hand electric vehicles sales they catch fire regularly too And only purchase 5000 to 10000 dollar bikes so called good brands that can have faults too ! The whole system is absolutely ridiculous.
Unfortunately legitimate brands that manufacture legitimate eBikes are suffering from the bike-like products sales that are finally being banned, after burning down houses and businesses.
Ebay or Amazon are dangerous places to buy ebike because you don’t exactly know who is the seller. As an Asian, I think some people overjoyed by some cheap China products while some over-resist China products. The major points on e-bike batteries safety are on standard and certification, not origin. The reason why some e-bikes on Internet selling in very low prices is because some manufacturers bypass the bike brand, fabricating e-bikes unauthorised without qc and other relevant certifications. They can only selling these online, but pretending they were the bike company. As they don’t have to pay most research and qc cost, then they can sell these very cheap and can still earn profit. However, the defect rate of these products compared to the authorised export bike will be super high, and sadly the bike brand has to be blamed for these unauthorised products
Government should investigate each battery fire cases and if there is some unusual high rate of evidence in specific batteries than they can fine/ban company or at list show list which battery company to avoid. Just banning E-bike is stupid. It's the best Eco friendly transportation. By my calculation just using E-bike with throttle I got maximum 3kw/100km
Wont work. the UK GOV banned UNIT PACK POWER triangle battery from sale in the UK a few months ago. But did not ban standard shape batteries made by the same company in the same place with the same materials.
Maintaining the level 80- max to not less than 20% is safe and best for long battery life. If you ever see a battery fire its a good incentive to take care.
@@BrinJay-s4v Sure but first not many e bike support that features, second the most e bike battery are too small. Mine is 36v+10ah. I get 10km-40km range, there is not enough to cut that 20%.
This will be about TAX. The government has just put 20% tax on ebikes I believe. Yet I see private sales of 10 ebikes at a time listed. Those guys will not be paying that TAX.
allot of the time people buy a bigger charger thinking it will charge faster so if the battery can only handle 3amps and they go get a 5 amp charger that can blow them up
You could say the same about secondhand phones (or even new phones), I can't see ebay banning the sale of phones. Bikes or phones there will always be a minority of dodgy sellers, and as has been said there will always be an alternative to ebay. This may go someway to explaining the Police cracking down and cofiscating illegal bikes in the UK?
Google how many car fires there are in the uk a year. Its 100k. Yes 100k. Over 100 people die in them. One gallon of petrol nhas the same energy as 14 sticks of dynamite m. The vapour from petrol is explosive down to -40. I dont see them banning second hand cars.. its sensationalism
Get a grip, the police aren't cracking down for people's safety they are cracking down because their masters told them to. There is no tax to be made and we can't be having any enjoyment with out more tax for the government. Why don't they crack down on real crime like kiddy fiddlers? Nobody cares about your health or safety it's just an illusion they do for an excuse to make more taxes. If they cared about your health and safety they would ban smoking, alcohol, junk food, sugar, chemicals in food, fluoride chlorine pharmaceutical drugs, pesticides found in tap water, and not to mention the experimental vaccine they just handed out for a virus with a survival rate of 99.7%
Well by Ebay logic all used electric vehicles then must be banned this includes electric cars after all the battery may combust and could result in injury upto many many deaths, there is plenty of evidence of evs setting on fire while being charged and even when not moving or being charged.
Yeah I know what you mean. I can't decide if I'd want to be there or not. Best charge in a little shed at the bottom of the garden with nothing else inside. Or in a flame proof bag or something.... I'm not saying I'll be doing that but if you wanted to be 100% and didn't trust your batteries then maybe.
If you are using the correct charger sent by the company who made the bike especially for that specific bike then you are in no danger .It is these so called compatible chargers that are the problem .And the truth is that most of the fires are caused through scooters going on fire not actual ebikes .There are millions of ebikes in the UK and out of that amount there are hardly any fires , It`s only stupid people using the wrong charger trying to charge a battery and not the actual battery itself .There so much false to fact information about this subject and the press and media jump all over it to produce fear and anxiety
I been bought two bike battery from Ebay. First one did emptying slowly by itself. The next one had wrong keys, and did takes two months to get right. The chargers are equal risk as battery itself, to ignite battery. The color coded connectors for match them voltages?
I had 2 Ebikes on ebay for sale.. I must have listed it before 31st Oct as the listing was live. I literally just went on to update the price and some other things. Then a few minutes later it must have gone through checks and they took it down as it violates their rules. I didn't even know. But it is 8/11/24 and it was still listed on ebay until I made some changes.. How are we supposed to sell second hand ebikes..? I have 2 ebikes to sell and wondering where I am going to be able to list them to sell.. apart from facebook etc.. They are genuine branded bike with nothing wrong with them.. Where can you list them? I want to upgrade to a different ebike..
I really want to get to the bottom of this. Why are so many fires (deadly ones - as seen in many videos) being caused by lithium ion e-bike batteries. Is it lack of safe production design. Is it cheaper components used in manufacturing. Is there not a fail safe way to make all batteries fire-resistant? It really does make you think what is the reason that has allowed dangerous products on to the market. Also I have been thinking it would be really unwise to buy a second hand or unknown brand of e-bike for quite a time. Some people will have spent quite a lot of money purchasing an e-bike, but now might be sitting at home thinking "is my battery going to burn my house down". Thanks to the video maker for being open and honest about the problem. Let's hope a solution is found quickly. One that puts safety first as it always should be.
Wrong EVs have a lower fire risk than ICE vehicles. According to the Phosphorous, Inorganic & Nitrogen Flame Retardants Association, EVs have five fires per billion miles traveled, while ICE vehicles have 55.
So many cheap Chinese junk bikes with zero standrds, fake cells, fake bearings, fake suspension. Only a matter of time people got harmed and pointed at who sold em, instead of themselves for buying dangerous stuff
@@birupex Engwe have been around for years and are a reliable company .It`s these Generic Chinese builders that occupy the top floor of a block and produce cheap bikes with inferior parts that are the problem .Stay clear of bikes with two batteries and loads of fancy attachments for under a grand because they are all going to fail
*Saw that the other day, either a simple case of eBay tryin to avoid liability or a conspiracy leadin people to only buy new* ⚡️👀⚡️ This might end up nudgin people more towards AliExpress and dodgy sites rather than buyin a used Safe ebike on eBay. I feel the dodgy ebikes on eBay were a minority and this new rule could punish the legitimate/safer majority. Mixed feelings about this, sets a bad precedent too.
@@eBoard3R yeah I think it's the liability thing as they wouldn't want anyone to buy new. But yeah I think you're right it may push people to temu and might even result in more fires.
Nothing for now, just run fast from it if you see smoking from battery and call emergency services, its almost impossible to put it out when lithium starts to burn, maybe some kind of anti fire blanket as prevention.
I'll tell you what is even cleaner for the environment and a lot safer to use. Pedal bikes. In the 42 years it's been around, My Raleigh Tuff Burner has never set on fire despite the name and never needed a battery change. I HIGHLY doubt that any Ebike will be around after even half that time. I'm pretty sure all of you are very happy with Ebikes and more the best to you but I will never have one because I will never trust them. I'm not losing everything I own just to save some leg work. I don't trust the scooters, bikes or cars so I'm not hitting on the bikes, it's everything that has these batteries. I don't even let my phone out of sight.
A house near me was gutted by a bike fire. They should be banned. Comments here questioning car batterires need to educate themselves quickly. NEVER charge a lithium battery inside a building.
Only your insurance company can tell you that, give them a call, and get it in writing, have them send you a copy of the policy, as it applies to batteries and their charging in your home.
Good day…I am considering the q20 pro…in part due to your great review video…”I was wrong! I was very very wrong!” 😂 wondering if you have more specific information on what batteries are being recalled and any idea what the replacement batteries will be…I hope you do a follow up video on what they send you and your thoughts…also would you still recommend or keep/ride the q20 pro? This is definitely the bike I am most interested in…any other suggestions? Also I’m looking at buying it from Zeus Ebikes…an online store here in Canada…the owner (or partner) is very helpful in chats and says warranty work goes through them…sound like a safe place to buy from? Thank you for your time good sir!
To be honest, I wouldn't want to buy a second hand ebike online anyway, as it might well be a stolen one. Or have all sorts of things wrong with it that you can't see in the pictures.
@@zednotzee7 I suppose you have to choose trusted sellers. If they have documentation, charger etc you should be ok. Then the chances of it being faulty are equal to the chance of a new bike being faulty. Only difference is you won't have a warranty but that will be reflected in the price. But what you do have is buyer protection and the knowledge that eBay will always side with the buyer.
with six million people and hundreds of thousands of Ebikes .Those figures are very small , and It`s probably idiots that are causing them in the first place
I was going to convert my giant Talon to an Ebike. But when I saw the cost, I thought it was too expensive. The battery was £450. This was a kit from kirbebikes. I'm guessing it would all be fine for about two years, but as it all comes from China, I don't see it having a long life span. Plastic gears in the motor, etc.
@Jack_Warner wow. What a bonkers reply for a youtube video about bikes... I'm guessing you had a bad day... Listen we all have a common interest here, stick with the subject my friend 👍
What we need to keep safety and COMPETITION, is an OPEN safe standard. Not different batteries with different volatages... Using the same charge plugg... >>> INSANE
Don’t know about the UK but many of the batteries coming out of China are very poorly made. People don’t want to spend more money to get a quality battery.
I wouldn't restore a plane if it was as dangerous as charging your Ebike. I also refused a lithium plane battery. My bike runs on hamburgers and has 21 speeds and it's a cinch to carry up flights of stairs.
If people would research before buying no one would buy the cheap shit batteries,so its mostly to do with wanting something cheap as possible and stupidity..
If you in the UK , you are driving illegally as your throttle is powering your bike at cruising speed, 4 or 5mph is the legal limit to get you going or for walk assist, not for cruising. Your bike is now an electirc moped for which you need a licence, tax , licence plates and insurance.
I think ebay same a cash converters they whont buy them just incase old battery or broke .... I think us in England have it better because of are weather aslong as u use correct charger don't charge after just riding or over charge u should be fine
All because of people who dont care about safety or dont know what they are doing. Ive been using my battery every day for 4 years now. I bought everything to make it except the case. Cells, bms & charger. No fires here.
Its wonderfull but still not safe tehnology, i have seen person in China died in elevator, he was carying battery and it just started burning on its own, heat and fumes got him sadly, i hope in future we can make it more safe, similar things happened when cars were invented, there was risk of burning until we figure out how to make it more safe...
Too many people temper with their ebikes by watching ''how to unlock your ebike'' end up shunt modding, bypassing and put a third party battery with no knowledge
The problem is not people nodding them because that for probably over 90% who unlock them is the pathetic retards in gov restricting wattage etc etc. If you have the money you could go out and buy a new Ferrari or Porsche capable of 200mph, have they been restricted or banned from sale or do we live in a democracy where you for the most part can buy what YOU want or like but the gov have speed restrictions for public safety? 1000w or even 1200w ebikes should be perfectly legal and there should be no restricted imposed though it could be offered for they buyer to turn on or off at their discretion but go over the established speed limits get fined or worse and new laws could be brought in for what safety equipment/clothing must be worn at given speeds.
@@WoodstarForges I'm sure you'll be fine. Just don't charge over night or when you're out but that's just common practice when charging. Not that I've never charged over night or when out 😬😬 TBF these days I use a smart plug and ask Alexa to cut the power after X hours.
@e-VRC I never charge them overnight or away from home, I only charge them when they're in my eyesight, I have a 1 year old in the house so I'm extremely cautious about them as it is lol
I did a lot of research into different E-bikes. In September 2023 I had a delivery of a eskuta SX250 Series iii. I'm very pleased with it. I had good friend take me to Nuneaton where they are assembled. As I don't drive. I'm 72 now. I had a test drive in there car park and asked a lot of questions. It's fun to ride. Because where I live is very hilly, I get about 18 miles per charge. Now about the subject of the battery. I keep the battery in the kitchen on the work surface to stop it becoming cold or to hot. I also stay in the kitchen when the battery is being charged. When examining the battery the labels have been cut and another label which is a security label Do Not Remove. So I think but cant prove that eskuta probably opened up the battery from China to do some safety checks and re-sealed the battery up again. I love your RUclips Channel. All the best from South Derbyshire. Ron.
Thanks very much. If there's a brand to trust I'd definitely say Eskuta are up there. They lent me a series 2 and I LOVED it. I would have done a full review but then they released the series 3. I have tonnes of footage though so may do a video about how cool those scooters are. Enjoy it and thanks for watching the channel 👍👍🤟🤟
It’s not always a dodgy battery , it’s the user could have a had a few little crashes or dropped the bike then the battery has got damages and hey presto faulty dangerous battery
@@Motorizedstuff that is great news, i have seen some articles that they opened some big warehouse in china for storing them few months ago, i hope they make them enough, also i hope they will be cheaper or at least same in price.
Originally is was EC bikes. External Combustion Bikes. Well i spend my money on a Internal Combustion bike, much cheaper, much saver and much, much better for the environment. And on top of that i do not support Chinese child labor or put my worn battery waste in someones back yard in Africa.
@@e-VRC I dunno, that's the point. Surely they could offer a kit to test them or summat? I mean visual swelling is really all we can see. Why not build a tester into the charger, like old AA battery chargers used to have?
@@nightlite9009 yeah true, I know Backfire an esk8 brand has the ability to check for bad cells via the remote. Leaving it to us might end in more fires though they'd have to do both. Let us test but also product recall bad batches
I've heard most of the problems are with the BMS & not the batteries themselves.dont but cheap & don't overcharge. I've set mine up on a timer (it's best not to charge it to 100% anyway) weirdly,I find I get more miles if it's charged to say 90% or even 80 than if it's full.try it
@@adidasmanuk You need to charge to 100% every so many charges, if you don't, then the batteries will go more and more out of balance, possibly making them dangerous
@@noelmason2305 I know I used the word Recycling centre but not everything that goes there is recyclable. That's just what they sometimes call them selves. To me they are 'the tip' and the ones I've been to were happy to take my batteries.
I ran onto this channel by accident ...It's happening all over. In my state in the US, I can no longer purchase anything to do with an e-bike on Amazon. Even if it has nothing to do with the battery. People have lost their minds and the pendulum has swung to the opposite end of the spectrum and smashed through the side of the cuckoo clock. There are other sellers that refuse to send to my state in the US. I have a feeling they're going to try treating an e-bike like a weapon Even though Tesla's, cordless drills, vape pens, phones, earbuds, etc all explode at far greater amounts it's just not popular to cover on TV. I can see this costing people a lot of money per year for the privilege to use an e-bike. 5k people choke to death every year in my country on food. But you don't see anybody banning cooking because some people forget how to chew and swallow. And if they walk away from the stove and burn the house down along with the neighbors... That doesn't get banned either. 🙄
It’s a matter of quality control. UK needs to properly resource Trading Sandards and prevent cheap foreign imports. It’s just batteries many goods are fake or of inferior quality.
Let us know in the comments your thoughts on this video and also ebike battery safety.
In this video I'm on the Fafrees F20 Pro as I was testing it today. It's a brilliant folding step thru ebike that goes pretty quick. The review should be up on Tuesday.
Hope my Bodywel T16 is ok 😮
It's normally the chargers. Many have voltage and amperage potentiometers that are faulty. The values can change with heat differences in faulty chargers. This means that you can be putting more amps or volts into the battery than the battery can handle. This causes thermal runaway which then start fires. Other causes include water getting in and shorting the batteries or physical damage to cell casings.
Before charging, always make sure it is dry, undamaged and check your charger with a multimeter.
Before using, always check for water and damage.
They’re not banned on eBay so I don’t know who told you that
What about Car batteries, Electric cars , Scooters , Skateboards ,Drones , Drone batteries infact any lipo battery cells are they all being banned ...so whats the difference ?
I couldn't find any EVs on eBay. Regular car batteries use lead acid technology which is extremely safe. Drone batteries are far smaller so the risk is far lower. I'm a PEV enthusiast but there's no doubt the major corporations have shafted us by using this dangerous tech in our products. We could be using NiMH batteries that are 100% fire proof. By that I mean that they will never start a fire. Never say never but it's like a 1 in a trillion chance if that. They don't have as much range as lithium batteries but we need to get our priorities straight.
northern ireland has required specific insurence to carry "specialist" batteris and aerosol for decades now. red davos might be nanny enough to extend that ban on carraige across teh uk.
Let's go all the way then and ban second hand electric vehicles sales they catch fire regularly too
And only purchase 5000 to 10000 dollar bikes so called good brands that can have faults too !
The whole system is absolutely ridiculous.
Unfortunately legitimate brands that manufacture legitimate eBikes are suffering from the bike-like products sales that are finally being banned, after burning down houses and businesses.
Ebay or Amazon are dangerous places to buy ebike because you don’t exactly know who is the seller. As an Asian, I think some people overjoyed by some cheap China products while some over-resist China products. The major points on e-bike batteries safety are on standard and certification, not origin. The reason why some e-bikes on Internet selling in very low prices is because some manufacturers bypass the bike brand, fabricating e-bikes unauthorised without qc and other relevant certifications. They can only selling these online, but pretending they were the bike company. As they don’t have to pay most research and qc cost, then they can sell these very cheap and can still earn profit. However, the defect rate of these products compared to the authorised export bike will be super high, and sadly the bike brand has to be blamed for these unauthorised products
My recommendation is to buy e-bike directly from official website, or some trusty authorised dealers to get protected from your country’s laws
its all made in china anyway just our country charges ya 2x as much for same product
What gone happen when we have 20 million electric cars driving around
Government should investigate each battery fire cases and if there is some unusual high rate of evidence in specific batteries than they can fine/ban company
or at list show list which battery company to avoid.
Just banning E-bike is stupid. It's the best Eco friendly transportation.
By my calculation just using E-bike with throttle I got maximum 3kw/100km
Wont work. the UK GOV banned UNIT PACK POWER triangle battery from sale in the UK a few months ago. But did not ban standard shape batteries made by the same company in the same place with the same materials.
@@scottharvey9764 lets have at list official graph to know which one to avoid.
we consumers could regulate that
Maintaining the level 80- max to not less than 20% is safe and best for long battery life. If you ever see a battery fire its a good incentive to take care.
@@BrinJay-s4v Sure but first not many e bike support that features, second the most e bike battery are too small. Mine is 36v+10ah. I get 10km-40km range, there is not enough to cut that 20%.
This will be about TAX. The government has just put 20% tax on ebikes I believe. Yet I see private sales of 10 ebikes at a time listed. Those guys will not be paying that TAX.
allot of the time people buy a bigger charger thinking it will charge faster so if the battery can only handle 3amps and they go get a 5 amp charger that can blow them up
Especially delivery riders wanting a quick recharge
Mine came with the two amp and I bought a six.😅😅😅
"Allot"? Perhaps you mean "a lot".
@@AHoundOnAHonda ?
@@Joegreen-r1i burn baby burn lol
I’d definitely like a battery safety video :)
You could say the same about secondhand phones (or even new phones), I can't see ebay banning the sale of phones. Bikes or phones there will always be a minority of dodgy sellers, and as has been said there will always be an alternative to ebay. This may go someway to explaining the Police cracking down and cofiscating illegal bikes in the UK?
Google how many car fires there are in the uk a year. Its 100k. Yes 100k. Over 100 people die in them. One gallon of petrol nhas the same energy as 14 sticks of dynamite m. The vapour from petrol is explosive down to -40. I dont see them banning second hand cars.. its sensationalism
All connected!
Get a grip, the police aren't cracking down for people's safety they are cracking down because their masters told them to. There is no tax to be made and we can't be having any enjoyment with out more tax for the government. Why don't they crack down on real crime like kiddy fiddlers? Nobody cares about your health or safety it's just an illusion they do for an excuse to make more taxes. If they cared about your health and safety they would ban smoking, alcohol, junk food, sugar, chemicals in food, fluoride chlorine pharmaceutical drugs, pesticides found in tap water, and not to mention the experimental vaccine they just handed out for a virus with a survival rate of 99.7%
Well by Ebay logic all used electric vehicles then must be banned this includes electric cars after all the battery may combust and could result in injury upto many many deaths, there is plenty of evidence of evs setting on fire while being charged and even when not moving or being charged.
Phones are not subject to heavy loads but have been known to fail. most now use intelligent chargers.
I bought an ebike kit and battery off amazon over 4 years ago, still going strong today!
Really good for the environment as long as you can't see the children in the mines or the messed up environments these materials came from.
I'm just charging my ebike battery in my conservatory. Before I'll go to bed I'll definitely unplug it. This is scary 😮
Yeah I know what you mean. I can't decide if I'd want to be there or not. Best charge in a little shed at the bottom of the garden with nothing else inside. Or in a flame proof bag or something.... I'm not saying I'll be doing that but if you wanted to be 100% and didn't trust your batteries then maybe.
@@e-VRC have u fallen for all the media hype on e bike fires?
@@tylerhamilton-nz8qs I'm not too worried about charging mine but when it does happen it's nasty there's no denying that.
I have a Super73 ZX quality brand, but never charge my battery unattended or overnight
If you are using the correct charger sent by the company who made the bike especially for that specific bike then you are in no danger .It is these so called compatible chargers that are the problem .And the truth is that most of the fires are caused through scooters going on fire not actual ebikes .There are millions of ebikes in the UK and out of that amount there are hardly any fires , It`s only stupid people using the wrong charger trying to charge a battery and not the actual battery itself .There so much false to fact information about this subject and the press and media jump all over it to produce fear and anxiety
I been bought two bike battery from Ebay. First one did emptying slowly by itself. The next one had wrong keys, and did takes two months to get right. The chargers are equal risk as battery itself, to ignite battery. The color coded connectors for match them voltages?
Will we be able to list E bikes if we remove the Batteries? so like for spares or Parts .
I had 2 Ebikes on ebay for sale.. I must have listed it before 31st Oct as the listing was live. I literally just went on to update the price and some other things. Then a few minutes later it must have gone through checks and they took it down as it violates their rules. I didn't even know. But it is 8/11/24 and it was still listed on ebay until I made some changes..
How are we supposed to sell second hand ebikes..? I have 2 ebikes to sell and wondering where I am going to be able to list them to sell.. apart from facebook etc..
They are genuine branded bike with nothing wrong with them..
Where can you list them?
I want to upgrade to a different ebike..
I really want to get to the bottom of this. Why are so many fires (deadly ones - as seen in many videos) being caused by lithium ion e-bike batteries. Is it lack of safe production design. Is it cheaper components used in manufacturing. Is there not a fail safe way to make all batteries fire-resistant? It really does make you think what is the reason that has allowed dangerous products on to the market. Also I have been thinking it would be really unwise to buy a second hand or unknown brand of e-bike for quite a time. Some people will have spent quite a lot of money purchasing an e-bike, but now might be sitting at home thinking "is my battery going to burn my house down". Thanks to the video maker for being open and honest about the problem. Let's hope a solution is found quickly. One that puts safety first as it always should be.
How many cars go up in flames per year ? How many ppl trip over 🤔
Electric cars by proportion? A lot more frequently than Internal Combustion Vehicles.
Wrong
EVs have a lower fire risk than ICE vehicles. According to the Phosphorous, Inorganic & Nitrogen Flame Retardants Association, EVs have five fires per billion miles traveled, while ICE vehicles have 55.
If you like fear search lots of videos, and even ships lost transporting TVs.
So many cheap Chinese junk bikes with zero standrds, fake cells, fake bearings, fake suspension. Only a matter of time people got harmed and pointed at who sold em, instead of themselves for buying dangerous stuff
is engwe good?
Clearly you haven’t got a mobile phone then
@@badgical640 jog on loser
Shut up
@@birupex Engwe have been around for years and are a reliable company .It`s these Generic Chinese builders that occupy the top floor of a block and produce cheap bikes with inferior parts that are the problem .Stay clear of bikes with two batteries and loads of fancy attachments for under a grand because they are all going to fail
*Saw that the other day, either a simple case of eBay tryin to avoid liability or a conspiracy leadin people to only buy new*
⚡️👀⚡️
This might end up nudgin people more towards AliExpress and dodgy sites rather than buyin a used Safe ebike on eBay.
I feel the dodgy ebikes on eBay were a minority and this new rule could punish the legitimate/safer majority.
Mixed feelings about this, sets a bad precedent too.
@@eBoard3R yeah I think it's the liability thing as they wouldn't want anyone to buy new. But yeah I think you're right it may push people to temu and might even result in more fires.
what sort of fire extinguisher would you suggest to keep near by...is there a special one for batterys... thanks
Nothing for now, just run fast from it if you see smoking from battery and call emergency services, its almost impossible to put it out when lithium starts to burn, maybe some kind of anti fire blanket as prevention.
The way round this is to sell ebikes with no batteries and make people purchase batteries separately..... probably
Has that been confirmed ? Because i'm wondering the same thing, will we be allowed to list E bikes with no batteries.
I'll tell you what is even cleaner for the environment and a lot safer to use. Pedal bikes.
In the 42 years it's been around, My Raleigh Tuff Burner has never set on fire despite the name and never needed a battery change. I HIGHLY doubt that any Ebike will be around after even half that time. I'm pretty sure all of you are very happy with Ebikes and more the best to you but I will never have one because I will never trust them. I'm not losing everything I own just to save some leg work. I don't trust the scooters, bikes or cars so I'm not hitting on the bikes, it's everything that has these batteries. I don't even let my phone out of sight.
Wait till 25% OF THE POPULATION HAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES. IT WILL BE LIKE GUY FAWKES NIGHT EVERY DAY 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So just to clarify, would you recommend the Ridstar Q20 pro? Thank you.
Good thing too. Too many cheap Chinese electric bikes of questionable quality turning up in the country.
thoes can still be sold as there new
Of course, never seen used this to blow up a pager ... lol
A house near me was gutted by a bike fire. They should be banned. Comments here questioning car batterires need to educate themselves quickly.
NEVER charge a lithium battery inside a building.
If you charge an E bike battery at home, is your house insurance valid? Should it catch fire.
Only your insurance company can tell you that, give them a call, and get it in writing, have them send you a copy of the policy, as it applies to batteries and their charging in your home.
It happened in my friends flat.someone left his his bike on charge at a downstairs flat , setting the whole building on fire .
Good day…I am considering the q20 pro…in part due to your great review video…”I was wrong! I was very very wrong!” 😂 wondering if you have more specific information on what batteries are being recalled and any idea what the replacement batteries will be…I hope you do a follow up video on what they send you and your thoughts…also would you still recommend or keep/ride the q20 pro? This is definitely the bike I am most interested in…any other suggestions? Also I’m looking at buying it from Zeus Ebikes…an online store here in Canada…the owner (or partner) is very helpful in chats and says warranty work goes through them…sound like a safe place to buy from? Thank you for your time good sir!
Just one percent is lithium in a lithium battery it has more cobolt in them.
To be honest, I wouldn't want to buy a second hand ebike online anyway, as it might well be a stolen one. Or have all sorts of things wrong with it that you can't see in the pictures.
@@zednotzee7 I suppose you have to choose trusted sellers. If they have documentation, charger etc you should be ok. Then the chances of it being faulty are equal to the chance of a new bike being faulty. Only difference is you won't have a warranty but that will be reflected in the price. But what you do have is buyer protection and the knowledge that eBay will always side with the buyer.
What bike are you riding?
@@vinylnutter fafrees f20 pro. Review coming Tuesday 👍
Which Ridstar model are you referring to? The Q range H range ? DC Range ? MN range they all use different batteries buddy
@@joeinsogna8154 Q20 pro from the video
Over 135 E-bikes/E-scooters caused house fires in London in 2023 according to the London fire brigade.
with six million people and hundreds of thousands of Ebikes .Those figures are very small , and It`s probably idiots that are causing them in the first place
@@Jimmyj2f We are talking about peoples dwellings being gutted by the fires also there were fatalities.
I was going to convert my giant Talon to an Ebike. But when I saw the cost, I thought it was too expensive. The battery was £450. This was a kit from kirbebikes. I'm guessing it would all be fine for about two years, but as it all comes from China, I don't see it having a long life span. Plastic gears in the motor, etc.
Since your giant is also far Eastern... Taiwanese it would be a good match 😂
@@gs425 I bet you feel really clever. I also bet, you're fully jabbed.
@Jack_Warner wow. What a bonkers reply for a youtube video about bikes... I'm guessing you had a bad day... Listen we all have a common interest here, stick with the subject my friend 👍
@@gs425 No, it's a reply to a smart arse, telling me my bike is made in Taiwan.
@Jack_Warner I'm guessing you didn't know your Giant was made in the Republic of China then? Complain to the guy who sold it to you, not me.
What’s worrying is that the report came from the BBC.
Oh, that's ok then, there won't be an ounce of truth in it.
All u need is a metal cupboard or container to charge it in
I use a van a vault, and charge the battery inside a ammo box, which is inside the van vault. This is kept outside, always.
A battery safety video sound a great idea 😊
What we need to keep safety and COMPETITION, is an OPEN safe standard.
Not different batteries with different volatages...
Using the same charge plugg...
>>> INSANE
Are Ridstar contacting all their customers, or just influencers?
Yes - do the battery safety vid, please.
I’ve banned myself from eBay
😂😂😂
The cars are dangerous as well?
@@richardcalver6686 I think it's because they're regulated better than ebike lithium.
Ebikes are not good for the environment get a real pedal bike and stop using electricity!
Don’t know about the UK but many of the batteries coming out of China are very poorly made. People don’t want to spend more money to get a quality battery.
LifePO4…………………
Thanks for posting this about ebike because i got one .
It's not a problem for me. If I bought one I wouldn't be allowed to store or charge it at home. Just in case.
well most battery fires are not reported,
What is your source for that information?
@@daveb7999 he made it the fk up
I wouldn't restore a plane if it was as dangerous as charging your Ebike. I also refused a lithium plane battery. My bike runs on hamburgers and has 21 speeds and it's a cinch to carry up flights of stairs.
If people would research before buying no one would buy the cheap shit batteries,so its mostly to do with wanting something cheap as possible and stupidity..
They should only have registered companys that sell E bicycles which are tried and tested for helth and safety .
My bike is UL approved, made in Canada, and uses Samsung cells.
But fires will happen at whomever's house that owns the bike.. It won't matter if it's an original owner or 2nd and 5th owner.
Nice bike you have.
Good informational video
@@lynsmith1096 cheers
so how many more English teachers out there complaining about spelling there ya go there is some more miss spells for ya
Defo with battery video,I got engine x n I'm bit worried now
If you in the UK , you are driving illegally as your throttle is powering your bike at cruising speed, 4 or 5mph is the legal limit to get you going or for walk assist, not for cruising. Your bike is now an electirc moped for which you need a licence, tax , licence plates and insurance.
cry to someone who cares
I think ebay same a cash converters they whont buy them just incase old battery or broke .... I think us in England have it better because of are weather aslong as u use correct charger don't charge after just riding or over charge u should be fine
Good they all should go
All because of people who dont care about safety or dont know what they are doing. Ive been using my battery every day for 4 years now. I bought everything to make it except the case. Cells, bms & charger. No fires here.
Gasoline/petrol vehicles have fires too!
Do you fill up your car from your bedroom?
At this rate you're gonna have to pre apply to leave yer house in the UK.
Its wonderfull but still not safe tehnology, i have seen person in China died in elevator, he was carying battery and it just started burning on its own, heat and fumes got him sadly, i hope in future we can make it more safe, similar things happened when cars were invented, there was risk of burning until we figure out how to make it more safe...
I consider it to be a good idea, the provenance of batteries can be very hard to determine.
Too many people temper with their ebikes by watching ''how to unlock your ebike'' end up shunt modding, bypassing and put a third party battery with no knowledge
The problem is not people nodding them because that for probably over 90% who unlock them is the pathetic retards in gov restricting wattage etc etc. If you have the money you could go out and buy a new Ferrari or Porsche capable of 200mph, have they been restricted or banned from sale or do we live in a democracy where you for the most part can buy what YOU want or like but the gov have speed restrictions for public safety? 1000w or even 1200w ebikes should be perfectly legal and there should be no restricted imposed though it could be offered for they buyer to turn on or off at their discretion but go over the established speed limits get fined or worse and new laws could be brought in for what safety equipment/clothing must be worn at given speeds.
They won't stop selling them I guarantee it
Just wait until all house insurance ban ebikes from the said property
I would never buy batteries 🔋 from eBay your guaranteed a fire 🔥
I have 3 batteries (from the manufacturer, not dodgey Ebay ones) in my house for my bike and all this video gas done is made me wanna bin them haha
@@WoodstarForges I'm sure you'll be fine. Just don't charge over night or when you're out but that's just common practice when charging. Not that I've never charged over night or when out 😬😬 TBF these days I use a smart plug and ask Alexa to cut the power after X hours.
@e-VRC I never charge them overnight or away from home, I only charge them when they're in my eyesight, I have a 1 year old in the house so I'm extremely cautious about them as it is lol
Well your bike looked faster then 16
What they don't say it hard to pedal
Faster then 16 on a e bike cause off the weight
@@Ivor60 that bike was one of the few budget ebikes that is really smooth and can easily pedal fast. The review dropped 10 minutes ago.
Once there's enough on the streets you will need a slow moving permit and insurance
That would depend on your location, and if you follow what the laws there say.
They should be banning electric cars aswell then
Didnt know this ive been looking on eBay for one aswell and can still buy em 😂.
I bought my bike from the company one year ago and everything is fine so far it's a MIHOGO...
Happy to hear it 👍
I did a lot of research into different E-bikes. In September 2023 I had a delivery of a eskuta SX250 Series iii. I'm very pleased with it. I had good friend take me to Nuneaton where they are assembled. As I don't drive. I'm 72 now. I had a test drive in there car park and asked a lot of questions. It's fun to ride. Because where I live is very hilly, I get about 18 miles per charge. Now about the subject of the battery. I keep the battery in the kitchen on the work surface to stop it becoming cold or to hot. I also stay in the kitchen when the battery is being charged. When examining the battery the labels have been cut and another label which is a security label Do Not Remove. So I think but cant prove that eskuta probably opened up the battery from China to do some safety checks and re-sealed the battery up again. I love your RUclips Channel. All the best from South Derbyshire. Ron.
Thanks very much. If there's a brand to trust I'd definitely say Eskuta are up there. They lent me a series 2 and I LOVED it. I would have done a full review but then they released the series 3. I have tonnes of footage though so may do a video about how cool those scooters are. Enjoy it and thanks for watching the channel 👍👍🤟🤟
Good. There's so many awful, nasty bikes.
It’s not always a dodgy battery , it’s the user could have a had a few little crashes or dropped the bike then the battery has got damages and hey presto faulty dangerous battery
@@DysonFraudy yep good point. Problem is not many would admit to it
They recycle batteries as there are some very valuable materials in them
There's new batteries called sodium ion and they don't catch fire
Do they perform the same as lithium and do they hold same amount of power?
@@CaDzA818 from what I have seen they do hold as much power and they alot safer type it in on here you should be able to find a video lk
@@CaDzA818 I dunno type in new sodium ion batteries china that's where they are made
@CaDzA818 yeah and they don't heat up at all no fire at all
@@Motorizedstuff that is great news, i have seen some articles that they opened some big warehouse in china for storing them few months ago, i hope they make them enough, also i hope they will be cheaper or at least same in price.
Liability
How could there be a video of a battery fire indoors because the camera would burn up too
Maybe it saves its files thrue IP, and its not recovered sd card, you can easily set cameras who record and send files to your Pc...
There just move to market place
Originally is was EC bikes. External Combustion Bikes. Well i spend my money on a Internal Combustion bike, much cheaper, much saver and much, much better for the environment. And on top of that i do not support Chinese child labor or put my worn battery waste in someones back yard in Africa.
No they haven't been banned
Why can't we check these batteries ourselves?
@@nightlite9009 what would you check?
@@e-VRC I dunno, that's the point. Surely they could offer a kit to test them or summat? I mean visual swelling is really all we can see. Why not build a tester into the charger, like old AA battery chargers used to have?
@@nightlite9009 yeah true, I know Backfire an esk8 brand has the ability to check for bad cells via the remote. Leaving it to us might end in more fires though they'd have to do both. Let us test but also product recall bad batches
I've heard most of the problems are with the BMS & not the batteries themselves.dont but cheap & don't overcharge.
I've set mine up on a timer (it's best not to charge it to 100% anyway) weirdly,I find I get more miles if it's charged to say 90% or even 80 than if it's full.try it
@@adidasmanuk You need to charge to 100% every so many charges, if you don't, then the batteries will go more and more out of balance, possibly making them dangerous
Time for people to invent new batteries than don’t explode and cause fire 😅
Your car batteries on the whole are LEAD ACID AND RECYCLABLE,
LIPO on the other hand 🤔
@@noelmason2305 I know I used the word Recycling centre but not everything that goes there is recyclable. That's just what they sometimes call them selves. To me they are 'the tip' and the ones I've been to were happy to take my batteries.
now they will just list them as a bicycle with a free battery haha
Then why can I still see e-bikes on ebay then
Because you didn't read what the OP said. It says, "From October 31st Ebay will Ban private Ebike sales ..." It's not October 31st yet.
Electric scooters will be next.
I ran onto this channel by accident ...It's happening all over. In my state in the US, I can no longer purchase anything to do with an e-bike on Amazon. Even if it has nothing to do with the battery. People have lost their minds and the pendulum has swung to the opposite end of the spectrum and smashed through the side of the cuckoo clock. There are other sellers that refuse to send to my state in the US. I have a feeling they're going to try treating an e-bike like a weapon Even though Tesla's, cordless drills, vape pens, phones, earbuds, etc all explode at far greater amounts it's just not popular to cover on TV. I can see this costing people a lot of money per year for the privilege to use an e-bike.
5k people choke to death every year in my country on food. But you don't see anybody banning cooking because some people forget how to chew and swallow. And if they walk away from the stove and burn the house down along with the neighbors... That doesn't get banned either. 🙄
only the government will control the means of production. i'mgood with them. and you. noissues. at all. atall.
You got it off the BBC lol then it must be accurate NOT.
@@H4CK61 haha. I mean there's multiple articles about the same thing.
It’s a matter of quality control. UK needs to properly resource Trading Sandards and prevent cheap foreign imports. It’s just batteries many goods are fake or of inferior quality.
Good
We don’t want them on the road